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Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's the Velvet's

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Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Christynault is here. You and I were just talking before

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Speaker 2: the podcast. I love all of the topics are going

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Speaker 2: to discuss today, and my listeners have heard me cover

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Speaker 2: a little bit about the psilocybin stuff, a lot about

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Speaker 2: looking into root causes and our bodies own, using our

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Speaker 2: bodies as our own best healer. And you have so

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Speaker 2: much experience in all of these areas. You've made a

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Speaker 2: career out of it, and I want to always tell

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Speaker 2: the listeners kind of why you've put so much energy

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Speaker 2: into things, Like I love that we always talk about

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Speaker 2: people's success stories, but I like to go back in

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Speaker 2: and go, Okay, what was the catalyst to bring you

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Speaker 2: to this place? Why is this so important to you?

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Speaker 2: What is the big driver here? And I know you

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Speaker 2: have a lot of stories that got to you to

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Speaker 2: this place, so absolutely let's go back first. Well, first

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Speaker 2: of all, welcome, Hello, thank you, thank you so much, thanks.

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Speaker 3: For having me. Kelly. Excited to be here and to

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Speaker 3: connect with you today.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy you're here, and I want to go

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Speaker 2: back because we were just talking about this before you

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Speaker 2: brought up the vaccine issue. This is not political for

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Speaker 2: any of the listeners. This is not a political podcast.

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Speaker 2: You guys know, I really try to steer clear of

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Speaker 2: those conversations. But this is your life experience, and so

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Speaker 2: will you start by just telling us a little bit

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Speaker 2: about your story, your family's story. And I know your

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Speaker 2: brother specifically had some things come up around a vaccine

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Speaker 2: that has now led you down this journey, or maybe

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Speaker 2: was the starting point of this journey for you. So

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Speaker 2: let's go back and will you tell the listeners and

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Speaker 2: myself a little bit about your story?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so happy to share. I have been working in

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Speaker 3: the women's healing space for over fifteen years, but the

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Speaker 3: catalyst was really when I was three years old, so

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Speaker 3: I can't really share the story without rewinding all the

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Speaker 3: way back. I feel like the beginning of my story

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Speaker 3: is quite different than a lot of other practitioners. A

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Speaker 3: lot of other practitioners get into this line of work

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Speaker 3: because they were really ill as children. And it wasn't

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Speaker 3: me who was sick as a child, it was my brother,

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Speaker 3: and for me, I was the witness of that. And

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Speaker 3: I've always been immersed in hospital settings and just I've

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Speaker 3: seen what doesn't work, and I always have his burning

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Speaker 3: desire to learn more, and I've been doing that forever

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Speaker 3: and ever. So Essentially, I am one of three children.

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Speaker 3: I'm the middle child. My brother was four years older

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Speaker 3: than me, and my parents described him as truly the

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Speaker 3: perfect first child ever. He was born incredibly healthy. He

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Speaker 3: They had seven really amazing years with him. And he

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Speaker 3: went in for a well check visit at seven years old,

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Speaker 3: just got your routine vaccines, and he was severely vaccine

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Speaker 3: that worked. He was on dozens of medications that created

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Speaker 3: so many other issues. You know. One of the medications

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of you know, behavioral issues with

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Speaker 3: chronic illness. And it wasn't, you know, for me a

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Speaker 3: history of being on a ton of antibiotics as a

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Speaker 3: And there was just a lot of medical gaslighting. My

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Speaker 3: this light bulb moment just happened recently when I was

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Speaker 3: being interviewed on a podcast. But essentially, my mom presented

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Speaker 3: too much. This is a little weird. This isn't right

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Speaker 3: basically saying, you're making this up about your child. Took

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Speaker 3: He seized for seventy two hours straight and it was

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Speaker 3: And I think that that moment of witnessing my mom

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Speaker 3: micro dosing, But even in the times when I was,

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Speaker 3: on podcasts, and I feel like health is truly multidimensional.

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Speaker 3: There are the physiological aspects, the emotional, the spiritual, and

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Speaker 3: like I'm kind of making these data of the ancestral

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Speaker 3: So that's just kind of a fun thing we can

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Speaker 3: He was thirty years old, and it was rough. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I'm grateful for it all because I do understand the

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Speaker 3: and share this messaging with so many people. But it

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Speaker 3: made me think because I had been working with women already.

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Speaker 3: much deeper with all of these women who are quote

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Speaker 2: I think one of the main points that you're making

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Speaker 2: that's really important to me, and that's I think what

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Speaker 2: think we've been programmed to believe in from our you know,

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Speaker 2: that entail? What happened? What did that look like other

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Speaker 2: than the seizures? Why would that happen to him specifically?

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Speaker 2: Like do you have any of those kind of answers.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's very clear that not everyone who

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Speaker 3: They're like I was vaccinated as a kid, or my

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Speaker 3: really not true. You know, as a society, we have

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Speaker 3: and vaccines are by no means the whole picture of

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Speaker 3: why we're dealing with a chronically ill society. It's our

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Speaker 3: the fact that family systems have become disconnected, and there's

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Speaker 3: so many factors. So it's absolutely not one thing. But

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Speaker 3: vaccine manufacturers themselves. And there are a lot of toxicities

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Speaker 3: things that are quite simple, even things like coffee enemas.

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Speaker 3: I know they sound really overwhelming, but I say, like

433
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: coffee enemas really saved my life, no exaggeration. I think

434
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 3: I was like almost at liver failure because I was

435
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: so unwell, and our body's wildly regenerative, Like the liver

436
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: isn't an organ is an organ that can actually regenerate itself.

437
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: When we get to the parasite conversation, like, parasites are

438
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: attracted to toxic tissues physically and emotionally. So when the

439
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: liver is sluggish and it's overwhelmed, it becomes very toxic.

440
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: Parasites are attracted then to that organ system. The parasites

441
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: clog up our bile ducts. Then we don't have proper bioflow.

442
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 3: We need bioflow to eliminate toxins. We need bioflow to

443
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 3: digest fat and protein. If we can't digest those things,

444
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 3: we have more gut issues. So the elimination channels, the

445
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: detox pathways, the drainage pathways that you'll hear me say,

446
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: they're all the same thing. It's a huge, huge part

447
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: of the healing puzzle if you're dealing with anything from

448
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: gut issues, hormone issues, or chronic illness.

449
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Speaker 2: That's what I was just thinking for people listening, what

450
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: does it look like feel like? Like, how do we know?

451
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 2: Is it just that to start paying attention to your body,

452
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: your cycles? Are you not sleeping at night? What are

453
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: your cravings? Even, Like, I'm trying to think of what

454
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Speaker 2: would be one thing you would suggest to people listening

455
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: as maybe like hey, that's a little bit of a

456
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Speaker 2: red flag.

457
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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Yeah, beautiful question, because again, we have made

458
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: so many things normalized. Right Everyone's like, well, my friends

459
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: are dealing with that, so what's the big deal? Yeah,

460
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Speaker 3: I do say your period. So women who are in

461
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: the reproductive years, your menstrual cycle is like your monthly

462
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: report cards, so you can check in, like, your period

463
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: should be pretty symptom free. It's normal to have a

464
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: bit of lower energy during that time. But crams are

465
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 3: not normal. Spotting before your period is not normal, PMS

466
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 3: is not normal. Having acne right before your period or

467
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: during your period, that's not normal. Having you know, like

468
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: diarrhea like during your period. We're conditioned to believe that

469
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: a lot of these things are normal and they're not.

470
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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's a that's a beautiful starting place, like

471
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: just check in to see how we're feeling. I do

472
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: love tracking my sleep because a lot of people might

473
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Speaker 3: think like, oh, I'm in bed for you know, seven hours,

474
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Speaker 3: but like, are you actually getting deep, restorative sleep? How's

475
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: your energy? We should actually wake up and feel energized

476
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: without coffee, without needing to rely on, you know, outside stimulants.

477
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Speaker 3: How's your brain throughout the day? Like do you have

478
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Speaker 3: brain fog? Are you anxious? Are you shaky? Are you

479
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: experience and saying fatigue? How's your if you work out?

480
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: How's your muscle recovery? Like it's normal to be a

481
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 3: little sore after work, It's like feel your muscles, But

482
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Speaker 3: if you are excessively sore where you can't sit down

483
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Speaker 3: on the toilet or walk up the stairs, like, that's

484
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: a red flag as well that we're not recovering well enough.

485
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Speaker 3: But we can really start with like the simple things.

486
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Speaker 3: How's our sleep, how's our energy, how's our brain? How's

487
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: our period? Are we pooping again a few couple times

488
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Speaker 3: a day? How do we feel after we eat? Do

489
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: we get bloated? Do we get gassy. None of those

490
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 3: things are actually normal and a lot of them. You know,

491
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Speaker 3: overcoming that stuff is really taking it back to the basics.

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Speaker 2: It's so fascinating. Okay, So let's talk about parasites, because

493
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Speaker 2: I know you say if you have a pulse, you

494
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: have parasites, and I I've done a couple in my lifetime.

495
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Speaker 2: I think I've done two parasite cleanses because I've had them,

496
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Speaker 2: and I don't know. Now that I'm listening to you,

497
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe I started in the wrong place. Can

498
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Speaker 2: you talk through that, because I know I remember saying

499
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Speaker 2: to some of my friends like, oh, yeah, I have

500
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 2: parasites right now, and they're like, ah, And I'm like,

501
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: one hundred percent you do too, by the way, yes, yeah,

502
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 2: how do we get them? What does that look like

503
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 2: in your body? What does it make you feel like?

504
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: And how do we know if we have them?

505
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Speaker 3: Well, if you have a pulse, you have a parasite.

506
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: So every single person listening to this has parasites. And

507
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: that's not a bad thing or that's not a scary thing.

508
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: To some degree, some amount of parasites in our body

509
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: is considered normal. What I'm referring to is parasite overgrowth.

510
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Speaker 3: So this information like, none of this is new, none

511
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: of this is trendy, none of this is like new

512
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: wellness information. Humans since the dawn of humanity have been

513
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: parasite cleansing and deworming themselves. This information was only taken

514
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: out of our current medical literature within the last one

515
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty years. So when Rockefeller Medicine came in

516
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: shut down all the herbalism schools, this information was just

517
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: wiped out. So there's a lot of history that people

518
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: can go and read about themselves. But there are many

519
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: other cultures, you know, outside of the United States to

520
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: still parasite cleanse from the time that children are one

521
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: or two years old. And I get DMS all the

522
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: time from like women in Latin America and other countries,

523
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: and they're just like wow, it's wild. You have to

524
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: spend your energy on Instagram convincing people that this is

525
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: a real thing, Like right, you know, doctors will ask

526
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: you when you go ask them if you think you

527
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: have parasite issues. Have you been to a third world country?

528
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Speaker 3: Have you been to a foreign country? This is not

529
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Speaker 3: just to third world country issues. And do we really

530
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: think like parasites stay within borders, like they just know

531
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Speaker 3: rest stay with you know what I mean. So they're

532
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: in our water system. They're actually in our municipal tap water. Again,

533
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: this is something people can go look at on their own.

534
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: But we shouldn't fear parasites once again, because we can't

535
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: avoid them. We get parasites from our food both plant

536
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: based foods and animal foods, from doing really beautiful things

537
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: like barefoot grounding outside in the soil. That's something you

538
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: want to do, and that's the way. You can also

539
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: get parasites from our water system. From the air, they

540
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: can be sexually transmitted. You can get parasites in public

541
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: restrooms like we cannot avoid like that. Ru yeah, literally everywhere.

542
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: So a healthy, resilient body should, for the most part,

543
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: be able to take care of them. Also, you know,

544
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: if we are cleansing consistently, so our body should be

545
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: resilient enough to handle the overgrowth. But most people's bodies

546
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: aren't at this point. And like I said, cultures around

547
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: the world are parasite cleansing like twice yearly, like it's

548
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: just part of maintenance health. And I mentioned earlier parasites

549
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: are attracted to toxic tissues both physically and emotionally. So

550
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: all of the chemicals in our environment, all of the

551
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: unprocessed emotions, and the unresolved traumas stewing in our body.

552
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: Parasites are very low vibrational beings and they actually resonate

553
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: within like fear frequency and unprocessed trauma within the low

554
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: vibrational frequencies within our body. So I teach parasite cleansing

555
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: as multidimensional parasite cleansing. A lot of it goes so

556
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: deep I could literally go I could take this conversation

557
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: in a million different directions. I believe parasites are a

558
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: form of ancestral karmic debts, and it can get very spiritual.

559
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: But to answer your question of like how do we

560
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: know that we have them, Everyone's going to have them.

561
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: But like some of the most common issues that I

562
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: see with parasites, well, if you have any chronic disease, right, so,

563
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: if you have autoimmunity, if you have like IBS, if

564
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: you have PCOS or endometriosis or fertility struggles, there's going

565
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: to be some type of parasite overgrowth involved there for sure.

566
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: But even things like we've normalized like migraines like bloating, headaches,

567
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: skin issues, acne, egzima, low energy, because parasites actually will

568
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: steal your fuel, your food before you get to assimilate

569
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: the nutrients from the food that you're eating. Sugar cravings,

570
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: carb cravings, so parasites actually signal to the brain to

571
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: feed them. So for a lot of people, they're like,

572
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: I just need better willpower. You know, I'm craving sugar

573
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: all the time. I can't get rid of these sugar cravings.

574
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: And I like to tell people like, you're not going

575
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: to be able to fight through this with willpower when

576
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: there are beings inside of your body that are controlling

577
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: your thoughts, your cravings, your reactions, your perception of the world.

578
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: Parasites are not something that are just in your gut either.

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Speaker 3: They reside in every single organ system, tissue fluid in

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00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: your body. So they can be in the brain, the lungs,

581
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: the sinuses, they can be they're in the liver, the gallbladder,

582
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: the pancreas, your lymphatic, your bloodstream. So again, shouldn't fear them.

583
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: There's very easy ways that we can take care of

584
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: these overgrowths. But awareness is key too. It's the wild

585
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: Wild West out on like Instagram and social media because

586
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: one platform like TikTok, it's like everyone's talking about parasites.

587
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: But again, we can't also just go in and like

588
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: go on these intense killing regiments because it can be

589
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: dangerous once again, like if your drainage pathways aren't open,

590
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: or you know, you don't have the foundations or the

591
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: resourcing within your nervous system first to go through this process.

592
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: It's intense, and it can also when we're killing the bugs,

593
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: it can stir up a lot of intense emotions for

594
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: people because the bugs hold onto these fear frequencies, right,

595
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: so when we kill them, we feel the charge of

596
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: these old, unprocessed wounds and emotions. So you know, I

597
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: feel like we do need to build a capacity first

598
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: physically and emotionally before we go into these really intense endeavors.

599
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: But for me, my very first parasite cleansing protocol in

600
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen completely healed my endometriosis one hundred percent. It

601
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: was insane. And the thing with me back then is

602
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: like it really with endo. It didn't help with everything

603
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: all at once, but the parasites kept returning, so I

604
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: wasn't I was like, Okay, I'm feeling better, I'm going

605
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: through these cleanses, but like I couldn't get rid of

606
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: the overgirls. So that's what really led me to the

607
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: root cause, thinking like, Okay, I actually need to also

608
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: instead of just killing the parasites, I need to address

609
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: all the reasons why my body is this like tox

610
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: success pool and is becoming so hospitable to these parasites

611
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: in the first place. And I have this wild experience.

612
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you want me to share this

613
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Speaker 3: emotional experience.

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00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, because I want to say this first, because

615
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Speaker 2: you've made this connection and a couple things you said,

616
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Speaker 2: and I think this is such a beautiful conversation that's

617
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: starting to happen on a bigger level. But I've always

618
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: felt like emotions are so tied to what's happening to

619
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Speaker 2: us physically, and people don't seem to be connecting those dots. Still,

620
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: I think it's happening more, but they're so connected. I

621
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: truly believe that, And so I think that's what you're

622
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: about to tie together for us right absolutely.

623
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Speaker 3: It is like everybody needs to understand exactly what you

624
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: just said. It's so true you could have the perfect diet,

625
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: ten step, perfect morning routine, do all the biohacks, you

626
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: could journal every day, but like, if you're really not

627
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: addressing those emotions that are ruling your physiology, it's emotions

628
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: are energy. Our body is made of energy. You're going

629
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: to struggle. We're going to continue to struggle. So the

630
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: light bulb moment for me, this was many years ago.

631
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: I was truly in like a dark night of the soul.

632
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: I was really struggling, and I wanted to just lean

633
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: on one of my trusted energy healers. At that time,

634
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: I didn't pursue a lot of energy healing, but I

635
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: did trust this woman, so I want to see her.

636
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: And it was just like any other energy healing session,

637
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: so I thought I was on her table, had some

638
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: cathartic releases, crying, shaking. Finish the session, there was a

639
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: lot of like cord cutting, and I felt a lot lighter,

640
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: so much more free. I hugged her, I thanked her.

641
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: I was like, thank you so much, Like that's that's

642
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: really what I needed today. All right. So I'm in

643
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 3: my car. I had an hour commute back home, and

644
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, I have to go

645
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 3: to the bathroom so bad, I am not going to

646
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 3: make it like I'm not going to make it home.

647
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: I did make it home. I go to the bathroom,

648
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: I look down and there were thousands and thousands and

649
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: thousands of dead worms in the toilet. And there were

650
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: thousands and thousands and thousands of dead worms in the toilet,

651
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: if not tens of thousands, like round worms, liver flukes.

652
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: I was actually crying because it was like I just

653
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: discovered something so wild. I wasn't on a parasite cleanse.

654
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: I wasn't taking any killing herbs whatsoever. Like I just

655
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 3: went in for an energy healing session. I eliminated the

656
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: frequency in which these parasites were attracted to, and then

657
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 3: the parasites had no place anymore. It changed the way

658
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: I viewed my health. It changed the way I started

659
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: teaching literally everything. And I've had just way more success

660
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: with the women that I've been working with in the

661
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 3: past ten years since I had this experience. It's so wild,

662
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: and I know some people it might be a little

663
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: too woo woo, and it's okay, like you don't it's

664
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: not going to resonate for everyone at this time, but

665
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: this is not a unique story, so I was like, Wow,

666
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: this happened to me. This is crazy. At this point,

667
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: I've worked with over fifteen thousand women. I've guided over

668
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: fifteen thousand women in reclaiming vibrant health after years of

669
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: doing it all, trying all the right things. In this

670
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: story that I just shared happens to the majority of

671
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: my students. When we address our health from a physical, emotional,

672
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: and energetic lens, people are having these really wild releases

673
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: and experiences and healing conditions were condition to believe don't

674
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: have cures.

675
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and the interesting thing too that I love

676
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: that you tied the energy work into the big release,

677
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: and like, I think this way with cleanses as well.

678
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: Often the process is like it kind of gets uglier

679
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: or what we deem is uglier before it gets better.

680
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: And so like that experience, people might be like, oh,

681
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that, but it's like, okay, Well,

682
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: the alternative is that it's living in your body and

683
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 2: sucking the life out of you. Or like sometimes after

684
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: big energy work like that, I'll have big crying releases,

685
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: like after the fact that feel like they came out

686
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: of nowhere and now I look at crying as such

687
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: a different thing. It's like an emotional shower, is what

688
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: I always say. And it's so just like it's a

689
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: gift because it's a big release. But we have labeled

690
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: crying as a negative in our society, and so it's like,

691
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: oh gosh, that must have been really bad that you

692
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: did that energy session because look, you're like crying the

693
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: day after, you know. So I think it's about also

694
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: shifting kind of some of the like things that we've

695
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: deemed as bad and good in our society and knowing

696
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: that it's like a part of the process. Like we're

697
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: so we just want the quick fixes, you know. So

698
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: there's no process in our life anymore. And I think

699
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: what you're describing as such a beautiful process of healing

700
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: that I love hearing about.

701
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

702
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I always tell my students, you live in

703
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: a slow cooker body, in a microwave society. We ehen

704
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: wants the quick fixes, and they do not exist. There's

705
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 3: not a magic pill there, truly isn't. And crying, like

706
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: you're saying when we're talking about our drainage pathways, crying

707
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 3: is emotional drainage. So it's not just the you know,

708
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 3: the colon and the liver and the lymphatic system. When

709
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: we are crying, it's actually releasing chemicals and hormones. So

710
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: you know, when you're in a really stressful situation and

711
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: then you just need a cry after to release, that's

712
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: actually how your body starts to shed all of the

713
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: excess stress hormones that were built up when you were

714
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: in fight or flight just a little bit prior. It's very,

715
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: very important, and we were kind of always taught to

716
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: suppress that as children. When we cry, people are like, no,

717
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: it's okay, don't cry, But it's like no, it's actually

718
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: a physiological response to clear all that survival energy. When

719
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 3: we don't clear it, it still exists within the body,

720
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: it builds up and it creates issues down the road.

721
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: So crying is beautiful, I said, well, it's.

722
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: Because I mean the other thing I noticed on like

723
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: reality TV shows, if I'm ever watching these dating shows,

724
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: one of the big things I notice. This is a

725
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: show I watch is Love Island and I love the UK.

726
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah it's so good. But in the UK, I think

727
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: I have a couple of friends from over there, and

728
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: they say, we don't do emotions big, you know, or

729
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: outwardly or whatever. And I've noticed on those shows when

730
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 2: a girl will start crying because she's upset by something

731
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: that's happening in the relationship, the instinct of everyone around

732
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: her is do not let him see you cry. Don't cry,

733
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: don't cry, don't cry. And I'm thinking to myself, but why, like,

734
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: why have we developed this as a weakness. It's actually

735
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: the most beautiful, bold, strong thing because we're allowing ourselves

736
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: to heal real time. That's how I look at it allis, yeah,

737
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: it's spot on. Let's move on, because I know we

738
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: were running out of time. And I really want to

739
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: talk about psilocybin because I love your approach with it,

740
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: and I've talked a bunch by listeners know I did

741
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: a big psilocybin journey with a shaman, like a couple

742
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: of years ago. Changed my life. It was a I

743
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: did a high dose. So what you have developed is

744
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: a company called Microflow, and it's all about microdosing. And

745
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: I'm very curious about this because I know what I

746
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: did is a little scary to a lot of people.

747
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: And so even when I'm describing the benefit that it

748
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: brought to my life and the mass amount of healing

749
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: even over time that it's given me. A lot of

750
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: people are like, yeah, but I could never do that

751
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: because it's scary because I was very much in a

752
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: trip like state. You know, it's very different. So tell

753
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: me a little bit about microflow and the company, how

754
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: it started, and then how you use it in combination

755
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: with some of this root cause stuff that we've talked about.

756
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, so I launched the company micro Flow in

757
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. And as you guys know, I've shared

758
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: all the things. I've been on this journey for a

759
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: really long time, and it kind of just seemed that

760
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: no matter how many things I did, like healed a

761
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: lot of conditions, but the perfectionism was still really ruling

762
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: my life. I was still struggling with eating disorders on

763
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: and off. I knew I needed to nourish my body,

764
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: but I also wanted to stay aside, like double double

765
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: double zero, right, Like, there were just these conditions that

766
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: I couldn't quite seem to overcome. So I started pursuing.

767
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: First of all, I researched psychedelic healing for probably seven

768
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: years before I even tried it myself. Finally, in twenty

769
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: twenty I got the ping one day. So it's only

770
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: been like five years and I'm living in an entirely

771
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: different reality than I was five years ago. But I

772
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: got the download to start micro dosing. I took my

773
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: first dose, and I had never been able to access

774
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: and this is a microdose. I had never been able

775
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: to access Bliss her joy like prior. I'm like, wow,

776
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: I've never felt this, other people like this on this planet.

777
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 3: It was like the first time where my thoughts weren't

778
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: consuming my every moment of my reality. It was the

779
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: first time it felt like my nervous system was able

780
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: to just exhale and surrender and be present and yes,

781
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: just actually hold Bliss in my body. And it was

782
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: so incredible. So my first three months of microdosing, I

783
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: completely healed a lifelong eating disorder. That's not even why

784
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: I pursued to start dosing, It just kind of happened

785
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: in the process. It really, you know, changed my relationships

786
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: the way I was able to well, of course, when

787
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: I can connect more authentically with myself, it was I

788
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: was able to connect more authentically with others and also

789
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: just see people for where they are in their journey.

790
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: I think for so long, like when I would have

791
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: issues come up in my marriage. The medicine acts like

792
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 3: a mirror, so it's showing me like, oh, the issue

793
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 3: isn't really with your partner, it's with how you want

794
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: your partner to show up instead of So it just

795
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: the medicine was so intell and I had all these

796
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: aha moments, and it really changed the entire blueprint of

797
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: my nervous system. I feel like my entire life I

798
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: lived in survival and scarcity, which was even showing in

799
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: my finances. At that time. I was six figures in

800
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: credit card debt, and I was able to quit my

801
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: personal training job and take this root cause healing business

802
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 3: full time, launched and built a seven figure business in

803
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: one year with the most soul aligned people ever. And

804
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: that's because finally I wasn't afraid to show up as myself.

805
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: And when I was showing up authentically, I started attracting

806
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: the right people who were meant for my work, and

807
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: it just really shifted absolutely everything for me. So for me,

808
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 3: I was like, if this can help me, someone who

809
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: is so health conscious, who's been doing all the things

810
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: in a matter that was so short, it was like

811
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: it basically bypassed everything else I was a breathwork facilitator

812
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: at the time. I was meditating, doing breathwork every day.

813
00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: Like the psilocybin completely rewired my subconscious in every which way,

814
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: and I knew I needed to share this medicine with

815
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: the rest of the world. So I started creating my

816
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: own medicine, sharing it with just with like friends and

817
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: clients at the time, and everyone was having these experiences.

818
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: So I launched Microflow in twenty twenty two. I genuinely

819
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: believe that Microflow is the cleanest, purest, most high vibrational

820
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: microdosing supplements out there. Everything is organically grown, we are

821
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: third party lab tested. We don't use any preservatives or stabilizers.

822
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: Everything is raiky infused and just really high frequency and

823
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: beautiful and very very intentional, and it's just been completely

824
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: life changing for tens of thousands of people. We've had

825
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: thousands of customers be able to get off pharmaceuticals at

826
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: this point and just reclaim their fullest essence, their fullest

827
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: expression in life. So not only is this helping people

828
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: heal their physical body, it's bringing family units back together.

829
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: The medicine is wildly intelligent. So if we take it

830
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: back to what we are just sharing a little bit

831
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 3: ago about the emotional side. Many people are curious about

832
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: microdosing or psilocybin in general because of the effects it

833
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: has on mental health and cognition and mood, and those

834
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: are very very real. Like i'd say, we pursue like

835
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: a sparkle. So micro dosing doesn't make you high or altered.

836
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: You can drive, you can work, you can parent, but

837
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: it just brings this sparkle to your life. However, the

838
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: medicine is an illuminator, So in addition to illuminating these

839
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: really beautiful things of connection and bringing you back to

840
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: your heart and rewiring your life toward gratitude and just

841
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: actually starting to recognize all of the beauty and the

842
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: abundance that already really does exist around us that we

843
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: ignore all the time. As an illuminator, this medicine is

844
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: also going to illuminate the shadow. So psilocybin does a

845
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 3: really beautiful job of making the unconscious conscious, bringing the

846
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: shadow to light. And again, I know what you just said.

847
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: It can sound a little scary for people. However, with

848
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: the microdoses, it happens in micro shifts and it creates

849
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: this capacity within our nervous systems. We actually have the capability,

850
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: the threshold to be with these things. I don't believe

851
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 3: that we're given or shown more than we can handle

852
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: while we're microdosing. So that is beautiful too, because you know,

853
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: ninety seven percent of our reality is created by our

854
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: subconscious A lot of our health issues are created by

855
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Speaker 3: these subconscious wounds. And when we're saying the word subconscious,

856
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: that means it is below the level of our conscious awareness.

857
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: We don't know what exists, so we cannot heal what

858
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 3: we're unaware of. And this medicine kind of just serves

859
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: it to us on this beautiful silver platter. It's like,

860
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 3: here's the stuff that you didn't consciously recognize was happening within,

861
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: but it's been creating a lot of issues for you. You

862
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: actually now have the capacity. The medicine gives you the

863
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: capacity to be with these emotions rather than escaping them

864
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: like we typically have done in the past, and in

865
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: that space, we can come face to face and meet

866
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Speaker 3: these emotions with love, learn a lesson from them, alchemize them,

867
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Speaker 3: release them, and we are liberated. Right. It's like this

868
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: process just gets facilitated so quickly it is it's quite wild.

869
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Speaker 3: But the medicine isn't, of course, you know, a magic pill.

870
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Speaker 3: We do need to do the work with the medicine,

871
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: and you know, it's even more accelerated, of course, when

872
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: we've got our foundations in check and we're you know,

873
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: focusing on our nutrition and our minerals and our blood sugar.

874
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: But this is such a beautiful starting place for so

875
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: many people, and when you know, the whole topic of

876
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: nervous system dysregulation is really becoming a bit more mainstream,

877
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: which is wonderful. The psilocybin actually helps rebuild the damage

878
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: that's been done within our nervous system. It helps us

879
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: create new neural networks in the brain, in the bar

880
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: and reconnects all of the parts that had become separated

881
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: in the past through trauma. So everything starts communicating again

882
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: and once again, Like you know, Kelly, you did a

883
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Speaker 3: macro dose, which is incredible for so many people. Now,

884
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: I tend to deal with people who are more ill

885
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: and more sensitive, and I like to remind people that

886
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: an overwhelmed nervous system is very easy to overwhelm. So

887
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 3: while macro doses are so wonderful for people like Kelly,

888
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: for some people starting there can actually be quite destabilizing

889
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: because some people don't actually have the resourcing and the

890
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 3: nervous system yet to be able to hold and experience

891
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: that intense and then to be able to integrate it.

892
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: So starting small with microdoses can really help people build

893
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Speaker 3: that capacity within their system to you know, heal in

894
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: real time, integrate in real time, and then you know,

895
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Speaker 3: if they do want to pursue a bigger dose down

896
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Speaker 3: the line. I think microdosing can be a really beautiful

897
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Speaker 3: starting point. But Kelly's macrodos I'm assuming was somewhere between

898
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Speaker 3: like three grams and five grams. I'm not sure if.

899
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Speaker 2: I actually don't even know because he mixed up some

900
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: potion and I just was like, I'm going all in

901
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: on this process. Everyone asked me what the dosage was.

902
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: It was high, That's all I know, because I had

903
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Speaker 2: to get up to go to the bathroom at one point.

904
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Speaker 2: This is the story I always tell people, And I

905
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: remember walking into my bathroom and the walls were like moving,

906
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I'm tripping. I am straight

907
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: up tripping right now. But it's not this process of

908
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: like you're on drugs in like a recreational way It

909
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: was such an emotionally cathartic experience for me, and I

910
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: had a very similar thing of you about the Bliss piece,

911
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: in that I was brought back to all the love

912
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Speaker 2: in my heart and I remembered what I'm here for,

913
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Speaker 2: which is to love, to give and receive love, and

914
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: mostly to give. And it just literally I kept saying.

915
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Speaker 2: But at the end of it, like, I feel like

916
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Speaker 2: my heart could explode. I have some like it was

917
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Speaker 2: just like love, love that kept just coming to me.

918
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Speaker 2: But it came with two hours before of crying and

919
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Speaker 2: releasing and going through some harder things. But I think

920
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Speaker 2: what you said is exactly right. My nervous system probably

921
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Speaker 2: did have the capacity for that based on the other

922
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Speaker 2: work that I had been doing. However, I had been

923
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Speaker 2: stuck in a very addictive cycle in relationships, and it

924
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: was amazing to me. It wasn't overnight, but it was

925
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Speaker 2: this slow process after that of getting out of situations

926
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Speaker 2: and then starting relationships and dating again. And I've never

927
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Speaker 2: in my life had such a different experience. I mean,

928
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Speaker 2: I did a lot of work, and I could not

929
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Speaker 2: have imagined my nervous system having the capacity to handle

930
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Speaker 2: what I handle now, or like make the choices I

931
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Speaker 2: do without that experience. So it just kind of brought

932
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Speaker 2: me out of what I guess it was a rewiring

933
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Speaker 2: that I couldn't well rewiring.

934
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it's fully rewires or subconscious And when you're

935
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Speaker 3: making those decisions with you know, not aligned relationships or

936
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Speaker 3: whatever it may be, that's because we're operating from our

937
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: trauma body. We're operating from survival. The brain in the

938
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Speaker 3: nervous system is wired for one thing, and one thing

939
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: only people don't get this. The nervous system is simply

940
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: wired for safety. But safety to the brain and nervous

941
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 3: system just means what's familiar, what's been repeated in the past.

942
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: So the microdosing helps us rewire out of those survival

943
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 3: states and we get to choose new pathways, and you know,

944
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: it happens. You know, it can happen really quickly with

945
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 3: a macro dose, but you know with microdosing, it can

946
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Speaker 3: happen in a matter like with me three months, like

947
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 3: my whole world changed. What I wanted to say about

948
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: the dosing is, you know, those large macro doses, so

949
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Speaker 3: if you were really tripping, it had to have been

950
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: at least three grams probably up to close to five grams. Yeah,

951
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 3: the microdosing we're working with about zero point one gram

952
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: per day, about four a week, so that's about one

953
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: thirtieth to one fiftieth of an actual trip doose. Just

954
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: to give some perception to people who might be thinking,

955
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: like that's scary. Sure, most of like I'd say, you know,

956
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: most of my our customers are working, professional people who

957
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 3: are parents and driving children around. So it's not something

958
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: that's going to produce any form of high or making

959
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: you altered. It actually just brings you back deeper into

960
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: a state of presence and wholeness, and it is just

961
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: so unbelievable. Now, the blends are for men and women. However,

962
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: I'm the first company on the market to create cycle

963
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 3: sinking microdosing blends for women. So we have a blend

964
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Speaker 3: that women will use in their follicular and ovulatory phases

965
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: of their cycle, and then another blend that you can

966
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: use in your luteal and menstrual phases of your cycle.

967
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: And it just helps bring you into the different natural

968
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: energetic states that we're supposed to experience throughout the course

969
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 3: of a month, and it helps us. So we are

970
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 3: working with the natural energies of our body then constantly

971
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: fighting against our body. So that is just such a

972
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: beautiful aspect is of microflow as well. But I'm so

973
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 3: so proud of it, and I feel like this is

974
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 3: where everything is going right now. We're in the thick

975
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: of this psychedelic revolution. You know, when I launched this

976
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: company in twenty twenty two, I could have never imagined

977
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 3: three years later that last night I was on live television,

978
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: I was on the news talking about psilocybinto mainstream audiences.

979
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: So people are really, you know, waking up to the

980
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: fact that, like we're in the greatest mental health crisis

981
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: on this planet. It's not going to be pharmaceuticals in

982
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: crisis hotlines in safe spaces that are going to save

983
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 3: the days. That's not working, right. We have to go deeper.

984
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Speaker 3: And this is you know, such a beautiful, healthy, natural,

985
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: promising solution for so so many people, and it's incredibly

986
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 3: safe as well. Well.

987
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: I saw that Oprah had someone on her podcast last

988
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: week talking about this, and I was like, Okay, now

989
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: that it's definitely going mainstream. If Oprah's talking about it,

990
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: we're getting to the masses here. And I find it

991
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: very exciting. The other thing I would say to anyone

992
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: listening who finds it scary is like these practices have

993
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: also been around forever. If you start researching it, it

994
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: becomes actually highly disturbing. For me, it did at least

995
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: that they got so muted and called illegal and dumbed down.

996
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: And I mean not called illegal. They are some of

997
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: it is illegal, But like that to me now I

998
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: look at in such a different way because I'm like, oh,

999
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: it's because it can't make people a lot of money,

1000
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 2: and I just think it's like we're in this phase

1001
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: too of asking the questions about the bigger corporations, the

1002
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 2: things we believe. This is a good one to research

1003
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Speaker 2: on your own and make your own judgments about and

1004
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: assessments and decide what's best for you, because I know

1005
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: for me it was one of the most life changing experiences.

1006
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: I believe that's what you're saying as well. So anyway,

1007
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: and check out microflow because I want to start small.

1008
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: This is a good if you don't want to go

1009
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: all in like me, I'm just a big like, let's

1010
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: just do this. So the Macria was good for me,

1011
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 2: But I've also been interested in micro dosing in the future.

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00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll send you a package.

1013
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: Oh well great, don't have to tell Christy thank you

1014
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: so much for being here. I feel like I could

1015
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: talk to you all day, so we may just have

1016
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: to have you back. Where can people find you? I

1017
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: know we'll put the links for microflow and everything, but

1018
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: where can they find you if they just want to

1019
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: work with you in general, or have more questions, or

1020
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Speaker 2: just want to follow along on your journey?

1021
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Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely, thank you so much for having me too.

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Speaker 3: Best place to find me. I'm most active on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: so at it's Christy Nolt, and then I have another

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Speaker 3: page at microflow dot healing. And then my two websites

1025
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Speaker 3: are where you can learn about my programs, my retreats,

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Speaker 3: my work, learn more about microflow so Christynault dot com

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Speaker 3: and microflow Healing dot com.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. I'll put that all in the description of this

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Speaker 2: podcast for you guys. Thank you so much for being

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Speaker 2: here with so lovely meeting you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Kelly, have a great day.

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