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A confirmation text will be sent standard 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: message of data rates may apply. 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: All thanks to Live Nation, stay or go. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: By the way, Daddy Bob Chairman did text me back. 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: He did invent MTV and spring break. And as for 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: liability a little looser times back then, No pun intended 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: because I asked him. I was like, how did you 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: like sleep at night when you were doing this stuff? 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Because I you know now you couldn't only that you 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: could do it, you had a near one. I have 18 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: just signed waivers and yeah, you'd have fifty lawyers out there. 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: And is social distancing and masks and rap people in 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: late next time his allergies right, Oh god, I mean, 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: what kind of candy do we have always for the 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: kids that don't eat candy? 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? You know, are the right right, 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: how much is babysitting? What do we do? I got 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: to pay for prep time? That's crazy? 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: Why is? 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: That's another thing? 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 4: Is? 29 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: And you know what, I think you should flip the 30 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: script on these babysitter types, like if you know and look, 31 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: I like this, I understand that it's not five bucks 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: an hour anymore, ten or fifteen or you know whatever, 33 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: and it's a big responsibility and you will and if 34 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: you get somebody good. I also have heard it can 35 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: be very competitive, where like people will find a good 36 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: babysitter and they don't want to tell their friends about 37 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: her because they want to make sure that she's available. Yeah, 38 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: that's real on like Saturday nights for them, And so 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: a lot of them will pay even more to make 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: sure that they're the preferred house, right Exactly, you can 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: flip the script and be like, hey, if I'm paying 42 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: a premium rate, like so let's say thirty bucks, people 43 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: seem to agree on the text that in our little 44 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: focus group here, that that thirty bucks is a premium 45 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: rate for a babysitter. If I'm paying that, what language 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: do you speak? 47 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 5: What? 48 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 6: Like? 49 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: What? What what are you bringing to the table here? 50 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: You know? 51 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Like what what are we? Are you an artist? Are 52 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: you do you? 53 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, like, okay, you're prepping for what 54 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: to teach my kid how to speak you know Mandarin? Okay, great, 55 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: let's do it. Like that's amazing, I'm all for it. 56 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: That's thirty bucks an hour, that's real. 57 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: It's expensive. You guys, stay safe out there. 58 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: Honestly, if I ever had a kid, and I don't 59 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: think it's happening, but if I ever had a kid, 60 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: we were saying this off the air, like I would 61 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: absolutely if I had babysitters or help or whatever, if 62 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: I if I could afford that, then I would. Those 63 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: people would bring something to the table that I well, 64 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: in addition to like knowing how to deal with children 65 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: they like and keeping them safe and things like that 66 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: that I don't know how to feed them and things 67 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how to do, they would have to 68 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: I mean a language like like different sort of perspective, 69 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: and I would almost be do you speak to little 70 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: Freddie and whatever whatever your native tongue is, Like, that's 71 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: the that you guys can interact like that, because yes, 72 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: because I want my kid to be waste more than 73 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: I am here and I don't I think speaking more 74 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: than one language is almost has become like the way 75 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: it needs it should be the way it is in 76 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: the world. 77 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: So say ergo. 78 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: This is a note that we got and this woman 79 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: does not want to be on the air, but she 80 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: wanted us to read this entire email. So I want 81 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: to know what you guys think. We're debating some relationship 82 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: dramming here. I feel like this is pretty relatable eight five, five, five, 83 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: nine one one oh three five. Unfortunately, I think people 84 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: can relate to this, but it says Dear Fred's show. 85 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm struggling to decide if I should stay with my 86 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: husband of three years together for nine and would love 87 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: some insight. We started having problems about two years ago, 88 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: and I feel like we just can't seem to stay 89 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: in a happy place. I did start going to therapy 90 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: shortly after the problem started, and eventually he did too. 91 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: We even started doing couples sessions in addition to our 92 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: individual sessions. They seem to help for a bit, at 93 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: least in the sense that we'd fix the problem, but 94 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: then after a few weeks we'd be having the same 95 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: arguments all over again. We just had a baby in 96 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: March and he was two months early, so that led 97 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: to a five week nick U stay for him and 98 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: a Ronald McDonald house stay for us. To say that 99 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: that tested our relationship would be an understatement. I guess 100 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: part of me really hoped that he would finally step 101 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: up to be the man I wanted and needed once 102 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: he became a father. Don't get me wrong, he is 103 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: not a bad person. But I feel like I'm putting 104 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: all my energy into saving our relationship, but despite me asking, 105 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: he's not doing the same. I never wanted a broken 106 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: family for my baby, but I know that I also 107 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: don't want him to grow up in a home full 108 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: of anger and arguments. I've contemplated staying until my baby 109 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: is a year old, but even that has started to 110 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: feel like an impossible challenge. I'm starting to wonder if 111 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: we're even compatible anymore. But I don't know what the 112 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: right answer is. I would love all of your input. 113 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for your time. First of I don't know none 114 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: of us fortunately have any experience in all of that. 115 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: You've got a relationship that with struggles, You've got a 116 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: kid now, a kid that was sick. I mean, I 117 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: know that that is incredibly stressful for relationships. And so 118 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: you add that challenge to all of this, and it's like, 119 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, what person am I getting? 120 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 6: Right? Like? 121 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: Am I We're so stressed out? You know, we're trying 122 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: to take care of our baby, and so I mean, 123 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: you separate that from all of this. But they were 124 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: having problems before that. Again, I don't know that it's 125 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: fair to judge people when they're under pressure, but they're 126 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: both under pressure, and and she doesn't feel supported. And 127 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: I don't know how he feels because we haven't heard 128 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: his side of it. But eight five, five, five, nine 129 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: one oh three five I'm curious what would you guys 130 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: do in this situation? I mean, this woman, you know, 131 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: she doesn't feel like she's connecting with their partner anymore, 132 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: and you know they have gone to therapy and they 133 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: at least she's tried. It seems. I don't know what 134 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: comes to mind. You're the married one, what would you do? 135 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: I am a married woman. 136 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 7: Honestly, you said the situation is a little bit different, 137 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 7: and you know there's they were they have. 138 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: A child, right, and then there was some health stuff 139 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: going on. 140 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 7: But I do feel like the first I say, almost 141 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 7: two years of being postpartum as a woman is already 142 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 7: just extremely difficult, and I think it's difficult for both parties, right, 143 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 7: Like you're not going to connect as much. You're not 144 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 7: going to feel the same as you did, like you know, 145 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 7: when you first met or even when you first like 146 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 7: got married or whatever. It might be just because there's 147 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 7: so much going on the first year for sure, but 148 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 7: I almost extended to two years of post baby life. 149 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Life is different. 150 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 7: They're going through a lot of stuff right now too, 151 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 7: and they did with their own child. So I feel 152 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 7: like if both parties want to, like, exactly like in 153 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 7: therapy discussed this, do you want to be in this relationship? 154 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 7: Do you want to work through this? Because if you don't, 155 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 7: then one person's already out the door whatever. Then I 156 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 7: would say this isn't gonna work. But I feel like 157 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 7: it's so hard when you are freshly postpartum to really 158 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 7: like make that choice, right which is to feel like, oh, 159 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 7: do I want to be in this relationship or not? 160 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 7: Because they say it's the hardest. The challenges relationships and 161 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 7: marriages a lot. 162 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 8: And they were having problems beforehand, and I think she's 163 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 8: just looking for some effort. It's interesting. 164 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 165 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 8: That's hard if you're already having existing issues. We know, 166 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 8: kids don't fix anything, They make them more difficulty. 167 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 168 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: Like the problem was there, and then they introduce a kid, 169 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: and then you introduce some of the biological things that 170 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: occur anyway, and then on top of that, you introduce 171 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: the stress of the kid being early and those challenges. 172 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, like you said, have a conversation 173 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 8: where it's just a blacker white question, do you want 174 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 8: to save this? 175 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: You know? 176 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 8: And both parties answer, And then if there is no 177 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 8: emotional or physical abuse, I say, then try to maybe 178 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 8: work through it a little bit more, because it would 179 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 8: be a very difficult time to go through a separation 180 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 8: as well, and it is hard on both parties. But 181 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 8: she said that getting to the end of the year 182 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 8: even sounds difficult for her right now, which makes me wonder, 183 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 8: you know, what else is going on? 184 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey Jen, Hello, good morning, Hi Jen, good morning. 185 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: So you you heard this scenario and stayergo and you're 186 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: saying stay. 187 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 6: Why I say stay? So my husband and I are 188 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 6: actually going through almost the sac same thing. Like it's crazy, 189 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 6: insaying how many couples are going through this right now? 190 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: So what's helping us is actually reading that book The 191 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 6: Five Languages. It's a popular one and it teaches people 192 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: what your partner's language might be, and it could be 193 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 6: like two different languages, like he's seaking one and she's 194 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: speaking another, and they're just not on the same page. 195 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 6: So getting an insight like that and actually writing something 196 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 6: down like Okay, well this would make me feel loved 197 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 6: or this would make me feel hurd or open, and 198 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 6: then they both do the same thing and it's like, 199 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 6: oh okay, something might click and they understand each other better. 200 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 6: And the whole thing with the baby and the Nike 201 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 6: you we actually had that too, and it's really hard, 202 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 6: and having a new baby is puts so much stress 203 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 6: on a relationship. But you have to like try and 204 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: look at all your options to see what helps you 205 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 6: guys reconnect and understand each other because communication is so 206 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 6: important and if they're like speaking totally different languages towards 207 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 6: each other, it's never gonna help. 208 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: The language thing is temporarily better to your point, and 209 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: the love language thing is really impactful because you're right, 210 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I could be communicating, you know in a way, 211 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: or I could be sharing my affection with you in 212 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: a way that isn't as useful as as a different way. 213 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: You know, maybe I'm a gift giver or maybe I'm 214 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: a time spent person in your words of affirmation person 215 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: and so here I think I'm putting in the effort, 216 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: but it's not landing with you. It's not resonating with 217 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: you the way I wanted to because I'm not connecting 218 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: with you in a way that would be more productive. 219 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 6: Yes, it's so real. How that is like that My 220 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 6: husband and I were completely different too, so like we're 221 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 6: trying so hard. I have to like were ready to 222 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 6: post it notes now like I felt this such and 223 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 6: such way, and then it will come back to it later. 224 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 6: Because he's a talker and he's the more the physical 225 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 6: touch with I think most guys are, and I'm the 226 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 6: quality time type of person. So it's they might just 227 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 6: have very different things. So I think she should stay 228 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 6: for now and really look at all the options. So 229 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 6: I'm curious to know it's the therapist that they've been 230 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 6: going to even suggest to that or you know, brought 231 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 6: something like that to their attention. 232 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Jen, I appreciate it, and I hope 233 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: everything gets better. No, thanks, good, Yeah, I glad you 234 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: called it. And there are a few people on the 235 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: text saying and you do hear this sometimes like if 236 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: things are going so poor, then why have a child? Well, 237 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: I mean there are lots of variables there, like did 238 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: they mean to have the child and then yeah, this, sir, 239 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: I've heard of scenarios where things are going terribly and 240 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: it's like, well, let's let's make a kid and then 241 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: that'll bring us closer together. Now that's not necessarily great logic. 242 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: I wouldn't. 243 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say let's add a really really stressful element 244 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: to something that's already not working. 245 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 246 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there are people that just relationships 247 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: are hard. And I'm saying this mostly based on what 248 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: I know what I'm not firsthand, but relationship. I think 249 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: we would all agree relationships are hard, and so I 250 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: think maybe some people just assume that it's going to 251 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: be challenging and then they still go about their goals 252 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: of creating a family. And maybe maybe for her, the 253 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: idea of divorcing him really wasn't on the forefront until recently, 254 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: you know, so it's like, well, I'm not going to 255 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: leave him. We're gonna work through this. It's a hard time, 256 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: we're going to get past it. But then as issues compound, 257 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: it gets worse. So I don't know that it's as 258 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: simple as why go and have a kid when things 259 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: aren't going well. 260 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that that. I don't know. 261 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: We don't know enough to say if that was the 262 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: logic or not. Hey Emily, Hey, hi Emily, you hear 263 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: this day? 264 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 6: Orgo? 265 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: What do you think? 266 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: I think that she needs to take all the energy 267 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: she's spending worrying about her marriage and everything else and 268 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: just focus on the child. They didn't. It doesn't sound 269 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: like they were in a solid place before the child. 270 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 3: It's not going to get better. And like, honestly, she 271 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: didn't list any reason for being with him, you know, 272 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: and I yours can It could be she needs health 273 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: insurance or x y Z, but it's like, you know, 274 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: why is one to enhance your life, not someone that's 275 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: going to make it more stressful. 276 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, in fairness, if she's going to do that, Emily, 277 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: if she's not, if she's just going to sort of 278 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: abandon any effort towards the relationship, then she should leave 279 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: it right because that's not going to help anything. If 280 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: she just says, all right, I'm going to pretending this 281 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: guy's not even there and focus on my kid, well, 282 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: then then leave right. 283 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: No, yeah, I said leave like she should focus on 284 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: health relationship and just focus on the child. 285 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, Okay, I get what you're saying. 286 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Emily, you have a good day. Yeah, fine, 287 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: glad you called? Hey Ki, Hi Katie, Hi, are you hi? 288 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Good morning? So sadly you've been in this situation, but 289 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,479 Speaker 1: you're saying stay. 290 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, would tell me mom. We So we have 291 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 9: my husband and I have been together or we've been 292 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 9: married for ten years together, almost fourteen, four kids, lots 293 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 9: of stress. We almost lost our two months or our 294 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 9: baby when she was two months old TRFB. So we 295 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 9: were at the university for a few weeks. We just 296 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 9: dealt with a two months stay at Riley with my 297 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 9: nine year old for crones. 298 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 7: Okay, So we've had. 299 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 9: A lot of a lot of stressful situations with our kids. 300 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 9: Health wise. Money's tight. We both work full time, but 301 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 9: supporting four kids is difficult. But you're going to have 302 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 9: a lot of these stressful situations in your marriage and 303 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 9: you kind of just have to look at each other 304 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 9: and say is it worth it? And you just have 305 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 9: to stop and say, you know, I love you, you love me. 306 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 9: At the end of the day, that's all we need. 307 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 9: We're going to just work through it. 308 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it takes a lot of strength. 309 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: You know. There are people saying in the text. One says, 310 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: does he do have his half of the parenting? If 311 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: he doesn't now, he never will. Do you think that's true? 312 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean, is it if the effort is there? I mean, 313 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: is that what we're looking for. We're looking for the effort. 314 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: Even you we disconnect, You're. 315 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 9: You're going to put into it what you want to 316 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 9: put into it. So if he's not wanting to put 317 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 9: that effort towards it, then maybe stop and you know, 318 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 9: look at what you are dealing with. But I mean, 319 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 9: it's a fifty to fifty thing, especially when you have 320 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 9: kids and when you're both working. Everyone has to work now, 321 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 9: and if he's not putting toward his effort and he hasn't, 322 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 9: then you kind of need to, you know, look at 323 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 9: that and say, maybe this isn't worth it. 324 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: She did say his effort is lacking. 325 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 8: That's what she told me. And she's asked multiple times 326 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 8: she feels like she's putting in more effort for the relationship. 327 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 9: Then yes, well then I mean you can have that 328 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 9: conversation with him, and if he doesn't seem to get it, 329 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 9: then that would definitely be something that I would kind 330 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 9: of look into a little bit further. 331 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Well, Katie, thank you for listening, for sharing, and good luck. 332 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 6: Thank you you too. 333 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a good day. 334 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: And again, you know, if he were unwilling to get 335 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: any sort of outside help, be it you know, therapy 336 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: or faith based or whatever it is, then you could say, well, 337 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: he maybe he's depressed or he has some sort of 338 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: something going on with him that if that's rectified, then 339 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: that might improve the situation, because sometimes you know, you 340 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: can get in your own head to where everything seems 341 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: daunting and then you're not really maybe feeling like you're 342 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: being productive or valuable to anyone. But it sounds like 343 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: he's done some of that. So he has made an effort. 344 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how much, but it's not as though 345 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: he's living this way and then saying why, well, I'm 346 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: not going to do anything about it, which we do 347 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: here sometimes in this thing, Hey, Laurie, you went through 348 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: something similar, and you say go. We've had stay and 349 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: we've had go from people who know this. Unfortunately, why 350 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: why go? 351 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: Because he's not going to change, and how do we 352 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 4: know we can hope? 353 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: Well, I went through it. 354 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: I hoped that when the Whitehurst, that when the. 355 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 5: Baby came, he would step up, you know, be there. 356 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 5: And he was sometimes sometimes he was great, and then 357 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 5: he would go back to doing what. 358 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: He wanted to do and not be in there. And 359 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: it was fighting. And I tried to five years to 360 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: make it work. But the same thing. He'll get you know, 361 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: he's going to step up, He's going to step up. 362 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: He was a great guy. He's still a great guy. 363 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: We're still friends. We co parented together, but the unhappiness 364 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: never went away. We tried, you know, working it out, 365 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: and we tried working it out, and he would get 366 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: better for a little bit, and then he would just 367 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: fly right back into his ways of doing what he 368 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: wanted to do. And he was a great husband and 369 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: a great father when he wanted to be. 370 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,239 Speaker 1: So no consistence, but no consistency. 371 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: Well, Laurie, I'm sorry, but I appreciate their perspective. Have 372 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: a good day too. I'm not sure we've helped much 373 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: because you get a lot of people who've been through 374 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: this calling in and it's about fifty to fifty go, stay, go. 375 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm looking at all these right now, a lot of 376 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: go and then a lot of stay. You've committed almost 377 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: nine years to this, so or ten years to this, 378 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: so you got to stick with it, you got to 379 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: write it out, and you got a lot of this. 380 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Love is not all you need. Yeah, Yeah,