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Speaker 1: another guy will start there. So I dismiss that. I

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Speaker 1: dismiss that arch is better. Some of you came at

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Speaker 1: me and said that, and I've very very easily responded

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Speaker 1: to this one. If he is, then he'll start, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to start. So arch Manning

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Speaker 1: looks phenomenal. This may be misconstrued. Is crap on arch

436
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Speaker 1: Manning day? No, it's not that at all. I think

437
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Speaker 1: some people sold that guy short out of high school.

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Speaker 1: You thought his last name was what was baked into

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Speaker 1: his star rating. No, he's a really good player. Arch

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Speaker 1: Manning would start at ninety plus percent of major programs

441
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Speaker 1: this year, he happens to be at one of the

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Speaker 1: top two or three percent where there's a guy in

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Speaker 1: front of him that just gives him a little bit

444
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Speaker 1: better shot to win. If that's not the case, then

445
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Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian has a decision to make. Does he want

446
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Speaker 1: to play kate to a guy's mood or does he

447
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: want to do his job. They're not going to hesitate

448
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Speaker 1: to make the move there. Hey, there may come a

449
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Speaker 1: time this year where Quinn Ewers is not injured and

450
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Speaker 1: he starts a game and for whatever reason they need

451
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Speaker 1: a spark and Quinn you Weers out and arch Manning in,

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Speaker 1: and you want to talk about controversy. You want to

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Speaker 1: have my pressure, you want to talk about spotlight. Imagine

454
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Speaker 1: the questions after that. It's like Saban making the move

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Speaker 1: from Hurtz Totua. But imagine that happened in week eight.

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Speaker 1: What do you doing in week nine? Who's starting in

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Speaker 1: week nine? So I don't think arch Manning is better,

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Speaker 1: because if he was better, I think he'd start. So

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Speaker 1: if you're right, he'll start. And also it could you

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Speaker 1: could lose them. That was the other I was trying

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Speaker 1: to read my own handwriting a lot of well not

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Speaker 1: a lot of you. I had a few of you,

463
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Speaker 1: admittedly only like six or seven of you. You said

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't put your best quarterbacks on display like that

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Speaker 1: because you could lose them to the portal, to which

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Speaker 1: I said, good, it's not good to lose guys per se.

467
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Speaker 1: But Texas lost Malik Murphy and they're okay. Their quarterback

468
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Speaker 1: room looks fine because they can recruit and develop. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't just arch Manning that shined the other day, by

470
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Speaker 1: the way, so development recruiting. There's no shortage of talent there.

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Speaker 1: But again, if a guy leaves, it wasn't your starter.

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Speaker 1: Your starter is not gonna leave. And if a guy stays,

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Speaker 1: he's staying for the right reasons, and you're fully built

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Speaker 1: that competition level and they want to leave, then let

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Speaker 1: them leave. I don't remember getting to the finish line

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we'll get to the finish line very often.

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Speaker 1: And watch coaches regret being competitive, letting their guys play

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Speaker 1: a result of that as being what kept them from

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Speaker 1: following there. We had a great sit down with Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day today. I'm not gonna waste any time. Here is

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Speaker 1: Buckeye's head coach, Ryan Day. So we're post spring here

549
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Speaker 1: and everyone's really big eyed and fascinated about these transfer

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Speaker 1: portal guys you brought in, and it seems like an

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Speaker 1: eternity a go already that the headline was all the

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Speaker 1: guys Ohio State has coming back, right, which is your team?

553
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Speaker 1: Those are the guys who have been here, and then

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Speaker 1: you're adding guys via the portal. How important was it

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Speaker 1: to get those guys back?

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Speaker 2: Though? Yeah? Yeah, that to me was the foundation of

557
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Speaker 2: all of this.

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Speaker 3: So after every season you got to kind of, you know,

559
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Speaker 3: take a hard look at everything across the board, and

560
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Speaker 3: you know, we're chasing that one percent. And the thing

561
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Speaker 3: that I just knew that we had to do is

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Speaker 3: we had to get the right people in the right seats,

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Speaker 3: and that started with with getting veteran guys to decide

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Speaker 3: that they wanted to come back, you know.

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Speaker 2: And they're the ones who decided.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not about like talking them into it,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's it's about you know, a bunch of

568
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Speaker 3: guys deciding that they, you know, want to go reach

569
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Speaker 3: their goals this year at a high level together as a.

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Speaker 2: Group and have a common purpose.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the great news is we had some

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Speaker 3: really talented guys that you know, had an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: get drafted early.

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Speaker 2: But the tough part with some of those is, you know,

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Speaker 2: the young.

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Speaker 3: Young guys, you know, have an opportunity to go to

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Speaker 3: the NFL, which is great for them, but not always

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Speaker 3: great for the youth of our or the you know,

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Speaker 3: the veteran presidence in our in our locker room. Well,

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Speaker 3: this year is a little bit different because a lot

581
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Speaker 3: of these guys decided they wanted to come back together

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Speaker 3: and started with Jack Sawyer and Cody Simon and then

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Speaker 3: and Lathan, you know, and so it just kind of

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Speaker 3: added a mecca BUCA and before you know it, you

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Speaker 3: had a pretty veteran group at that point. Okay, what

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Speaker 3: are the holes because you know some guys did transfer out.

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Speaker 3: We need to fill these holes.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: We had a whole quarterback, we had a whole running back,

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Speaker 3: we had a whole you know that tight end, you know,

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Speaker 3: and so we needed to make sure that we're filling

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Speaker 3: these holes. Then when you add on top of that, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, coach Savin decides to retire, and you know,

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Speaker 3: Caleb Downs and Julian Say become available, and.

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Speaker 1: We ended up atting six pieces, you know.

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Speaker 3: And you know, to me, it was more well quality

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Speaker 3: than it was quantity because at Ohio State you can't

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Speaker 3: just bring a bunch of guys in that locker room.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of pride here. And then you add

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Speaker 3: in the recruiting class that we had, and that's the

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Speaker 3: group that we have in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: People always talk about head coaches and the identity the

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Speaker 1: program takes on as a result of the head coach

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Speaker 1: being there. So they'll say things like a Ryan Day team,

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Speaker 1: a Nick Saban team, a Kirby Smart team. I've talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little on our show What a Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day Team is, to me from the outside, has changed

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Speaker 1: a little bit observationally because three years ago, you guys

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Speaker 1: could hang.

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Speaker 2: Sixty eight any given week, but you may need to do.

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Speaker 1: That because you may be giving up some points and

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Speaker 1: now you could very well have the best defense in

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Speaker 1: the country this year. You guys played a couple of

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Speaker 1: games last year. We were there for the Penn State game,

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Speaker 1: the Notre Dame game. It was kind of a first

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Speaker 1: to twenty type of fair and you seem totally comfortable

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Speaker 1: playing that way because of what you've done defensively. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that what a Ryan Day Team is has

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Speaker 1: evolved and changed the way it should always be or

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Speaker 1: is it still pretty much the way you've always done it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's everybody involved with the program, you know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's it's just me. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: everybody involved. It's our staff, it's our team, and it's mcmurraati.

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Speaker 3: It's everybody in the building first off. But I think

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Speaker 3: every year you learn more and more, and you know,

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Speaker 3: being here five and six years now, like you learn

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Speaker 3: every year, and you grow every year, and you recruit

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Speaker 3: towards you know a vision, and you know, I really

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Speaker 3: am focused this year on making sure that visions realized.

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Speaker 3: And what we want to do is we want to

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Speaker 3: have the best in all areas. What I mean by

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Speaker 3: that is we want to have the best players, we

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Speaker 3: want to have the best development, we want to have

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Speaker 3: the best coaches, and then as we go attack it.

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Speaker 2: Like have the best culture.

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Speaker 3: And in the recruiting process, it's the assistant coaches job

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Speaker 3: and Mark Pantoni's job to identify the talent figure out

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Speaker 3: who the right fit is. For me, it's more about

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Speaker 3: finding the right guys that fit our culture and who

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Speaker 3: we are in Ohio State and being able to sustain

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Speaker 3: this over a long period of time. You know, this

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Speaker 3: isn't just you know, a one in you know, have

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Speaker 3: a great year and then have a fall. You can't

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Speaker 3: do that here because the expectations are so high. You're

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00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: expected to win every game here, and so, you know,

647
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: I think every year we've learned more and more about that.

648
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: I've learned more and more about that.

649
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: But to your point, it's about finding the right mixture

650
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: to win games with the guys that you have, and

651
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: I think we've really done a great job.

652
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: It started with hiring Jim.

653
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: Knowles and then getting Tim Walton involved with Larry Johnson

654
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: and really putting that defensive staff together, you're starting to

655
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: see an opportunity to have maybe one of the best

656
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: defenses in the country. On offense, you know, we've moved

657
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: the ball, you know, for a long time now, and

658
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: we've been able to score points. But at the same time,

659
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: like run the football, being physical in the Big ten

660
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: but also being able to throw the ball to be

661
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: able to win the game in the playoffs is going

662
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: to be important as well, So again finding that balance,

663
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: but focusing on the things.

664
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: That you know our guys can do well and what

665
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: fits our team to win games.

666
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: You talk about chasing the one percent a lot, and

667
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: you guys have put up just an insane win loss

668
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: record here and then there've been big moments where you

669
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: haven't followed through on it like you want to. Internally,

670
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: I know there are a million layers to the way

671
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: you eval yourself and your organization. Outside it's just did

672
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: you win.

673
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: The game or did you not win the game?

674
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: Does it strike you how crazy it is the complete

675
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: validation that's praised upon you if you win the last

676
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: game of the season versus the total indictment It is

677
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: on your program. If you lose it and you've got

678
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of humans in this building, how do you

679
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: block that out and make sure folks, you know, keep

680
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: the racehorse blinders on and understand, yeah, we lost here.

681
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: It should feel terrible, But there are specific reasons why

682
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: instead of just we suck burn it down, let's start

683
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: over from scratch.

684
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: I think you have to enhance the things that are

685
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: going well and then address the things that need to

686
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: get addressed and identify the right things that need to

687
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: get fixed. I think that goes back to making sure

688
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: you have the right guys in the right seat, making

689
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: sure you have enough experience in the locker room, because

690
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: we have to win games in a four fourth quarter,

691
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: and we have to win games at the end of

692
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: the year, and usually you're doing that with guys who

693
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: are you know, twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years old.

694
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: That's just the truth, and so that was important. I

695
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: think the other part is making sure the staff is

696
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: exactly who we need it to be. And hiring Chip

697
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: was a big deal. You know, it really allowed me

698
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: some opportunity to make sure that I'm overseeing everything, especially

699
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: with everything going on in college football right now. But

700
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: it's you know, like you said, you know, you have

701
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: to identify the things that are going well and then

702
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: fix the things. And this job isn't for the faint

703
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: of heart. You know, you can be a player two

704
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: away and you know feel like you're right on that cusp,

705
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: but you got to.

706
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 2: Make hard decisions.

707
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: You got to make hard calls because that's what needs

708
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: to be done to make sure that you know our

709
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: team is in the right situation to win all these games.

710
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: There's also a thinking, there's a train of thought out

711
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: there sometimes in like preview magazine culture that if you

712
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: came really close the year before, people speak as if

713
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: that's where you're starting the next year, and you just

714
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: got to take that one final step. In reality, it's

715
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: like you try and climb Everest and you get five

716
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: hundred feet in the summit.

717
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: Don't make it. You got to start over from base

718
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: camp to the next year.

719
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: So I walk around this building like I certainly don't

720
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: sense any entitlement or anything like that whatsoever. But how

721
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: hard is it to make sure you guys understand last

722
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: year's team was last year's team, right, this year's team,

723
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: you guys could go eight and four, but forget about

724
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: starting as an eleven win team and that's it.

725
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: And so it's really like it's like a pyramid. That's

726
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 3: the way I look at it. You know, the foundation

727
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: is built, and you keep building on it. You're building

728
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: it all the way to the end, and you know

729
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: if you don't finish it off, you know, you don't

730
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: just start back up there again. You got to start

731
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: by landing that foundation again and starts with your personnel.

732
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: It starts with your culture, and then it goes into

733
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: the fundamentals in the spring. It builds them through the

734
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: summer and then in the preseason and you go from there.

735
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: But to your point, like the easy thing to do

736
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: as well, let me just fast forward and get all

737
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: the way to the end of the next season.

738
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way. You have to build.

739
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: And I think now more than ever, the teams that

740
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: build that foundation the right way, with fundamentals, with techniques,

741
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: find their identity and get really good at it are

742
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: going to be the ones that are going to be

743
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: best at the end of the season. The reason I

744
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: say that is in the past, when you got into

745
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: the playoff system, you had about a month prepare for

746
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: that bowl game, and I always felt like, you know,

747
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: if you gave me a month, you know, I could

748
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: really go to work, I could really focus on. Give

749
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: me a couple of weeks to really dive into this schematically,

750
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: we can practice the heck out of it.

751
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: You know.

752
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: I remember going to the Georgia game a couple of

753
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: years ago. We had like fourteen hundred snaps going into

754
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: that game in the Bowl practice. Yeah, and now that's

755
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: not gonna be the case. It's more like the NFL playoffs.

756
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: You get the kind of the wild card week, but

757
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: that those games are going to keep coming fast, and

758
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: so you have to make sure you're building the foundation

759
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: the right way and building momentum with.

760
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: Your team because at the end, the team that has.

761
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: The best fundamentals, the best techniques, you know, knows who

762
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: they are, is going to win and sustain in the playoffs.

763
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: I've heard you talk a lot this spring about how

764
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: you've got to prepare potentially to play like seventeen games

765
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: now as opposed to whatever the old model was any

766
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: given generation. Okay, so I look at that. Hey, that

767
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: just made me and I work a couple more weeks

768
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: in December. You look at that, and you got to

769
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: formulate an entire strength and conditioning nutrition program. You got

770
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: to deviate practice reps, and you got to decide how

771
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: to have guys fresh at the most important time of

772
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: the year. Yet you also, I mean, I've got a

773
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: schedule on the wall behind me of games in October

774
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: and games in September. So how do you make sure

775
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: On one hand you're building, but also realize it's not

776
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: Major League baseball. You still can't afford to lose more

777
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: than one of these games.

778
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: No, you can't, and you have to build towards it.

779
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 3: But at the same time, you have to forecast what's

780
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: coming because we haven't been through something like this before

781
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: in college football. In the NFL, you know, somebody gets hurt.

782
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: You can sign somebody off of waivers and bring them in.

783
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: Doesn't work that we only get eighty five scholarship guys.

784
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: So building your depth is going to be critically important.

785
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: Staying healthy is going to be critically important. Understanding how

786
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 3: the number of games we play is going to be affected.

787
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is, you know a

788
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: lot of teams in the NFL. You know they start

789
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: in that first four games and they go to the

790
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: second four games. You know they kind of change as

791
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: you know, they evolve as that season goes along. When

792
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: you're playing twelve games in a regular season and then

793
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: you know a couple of games in the postseason.

794
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: Doesn't typically work that way.

795
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be interesting to see

796
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: how this shakes out this season and how teams evolve

797
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: as the season goes on, not just schematically, but also

798
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: personnel wise based on injuries.

799
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: So you mentioned chip Kelly a lot. A lot of

800
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: people have mentioned chip Kelly a lot when you when

801
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: you decided that you were going to go that route.

802
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: I assume you didn't just say I'm going to go

803
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: higre a coordinator and I'm probably going to give up

804
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: play calling. You I would guess look at it and

805
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: said I'm going to go hire the right guy. And

806
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: there probably aren't many of them out there that you

807
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: trust enough to give that responsibility to. So how important

808
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: was it to get the right guy? And when you

809
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: have Chip Kelly come in and you can trust that

810
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: you've been alongside him for quite a while and he's

811
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: done it for a long time and you can actually

812
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: put that on his plate, that that frees you up

813
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 1: to do other things.

814
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

815
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just going through the office season, recognizing all

816
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: the things that are coming at us nowadays with the

817
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: with you know, nil and with the portal. You know,

818
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: it's it's a bigger ask right now for head coaches.

819
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: So you have to be present with your team. You've

820
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: got to be on the phone, you know, talking to

821
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: folks and making sure that everything's in place for the team.

822
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: And I think that's important.

823
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: But even some of the rule changes, you know, like

824
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 3: the two minute warning and things like that's all going

825
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: to change schematically how things go. So I think that

826
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: is going to allow me an opportunity to get freed out.

827
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: But to your point, it wasn't like.

828
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: You know, you just can kind of do whatever you

829
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: want in terms of like who you bring in.

830
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: Doesn't work that way. And the guys in that room

831
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: are very very talented, you know. Brian Harline is an

832
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: excellent coach and he's going to be a very good

833
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: coordinator down the road.

834
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: Justin Fry is a very very good coach. Keenan Bailey,

835
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, Carlos Laughlin now who just joined us, is excellent,

836
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: you know. So we have a great group in there.

837
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: But I felt like for where we are with this

838
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: team right now, and where we're at that we really

839
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: needed somebody who was a former head coach who had

840
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: experience either in the NFL or you know, at the

841
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: highest level of college football calling plays, because there's no

842
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: experience for that, like there's no way you can just

843
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: replace that experience. And so identified three guys that I

844
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: felt like we're kind of in that a group, and

845
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 3: you know, we brought in Bill Bryant, and I felt

846
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: like he really checked a lot of those boxes for us.

847
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: And he had an opportunity to go back to Boston

848
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: College where he's from and take care of his family,

849
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: and so that was hard.

850
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I totally understood where he's

851
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: coming from, and I've known Bill for a while and

852
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: think he'll do a great job of Boston College. A

853
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: happy for his family that he's able to kind of.

854
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: Stay put, and so Chip and I had had conversations.

855
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: He wasn't I think quite ready at the time when

856
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: we first talked, but then talking to him about the

857
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: Bowl practice, he was able to coach the quarterbacks and

858
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 3: felt like he just wanted to get back to coaching

859
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: ball again. Yeah, at that time, you know, it was

860
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: it was right for him, and it wasn't easy for

861
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: him leaving, you know, his staff and leaving that team,

862
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: and I think that was weighing on of the most.

863
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: But since he's got here.

864
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 3: You just seem, you know, guy, he's got to smile

865
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: on his face. You know, he's got a great energy

866
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: about him. Since he's been here. The guys really enjoy

867
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: being around them. He's done a great job so far

868
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: with building relationships with the players, with the staff. It's

869
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: going to be exciting to see how it works out.

870
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: But y'all still be involved and still kind of, you know,

871
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: help with the league and you know how we do things,

872
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: our personnel, things that you know we've done over the

873
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 3: past few years.

874
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: So got to stay involved with it that way.

875
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: But I also know that when I leave, you know

876
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: there's somebody who is so experienced and somebody that I've

877
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: learned my whole life from.

878
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: When you talk about giving up certain responsibilities because there's

879
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: more that's asked of you in other places, a lot

880
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: of times those other places are the stuff that's not

881
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: as fun as just football. I'm not asking you to complain,

882
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: so we're not asking anyone to complain. But when you

883
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: just do a diagnosis of what your day to day

884
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: is how much of it would you prefer to revert

885
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: back in time or how much of it would would

886
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: you prefer to just let's hit the fast forward button

887
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: to wherever we're gonna get to, where things are settled,

888
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: to where my day doesn't have to look like this.

889
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone told me, in order to move up, you

890
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: have to give up.

891
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: That's just how it works. And so that that's a

892
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: different job description. And to your point, you know, the

893
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: reason you're named a head coach isn't always you know, uh,

894
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: you know, the job description that you have to go

895
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: down do isn't always there. You know why why you

896
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: climbed up in the profession, it's not why you got

897
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: the job and the job description that you need to

898
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: do it's not equal.

899
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: So what I mean by that is like you.

900
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: Know, fundraising and you know team building and crisis management,

901
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: public relations. Like you listen to all the job descriptions

902
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: for a head coach, you know, I like coaching the

903
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and call plays.

904
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: You know, they don't they don't translate all the time. However, uh,

905
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: you know, I've been fortunate enough.

906
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: To be around great head coaches, you know, Urban Meyer

907
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: and Chip Kelly and Tom O'Brien and you know, Steven Dad.

908
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: I've been around some great head coach I've learned from

909
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: them along the way to say, Okay, when I have

910
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: this opportunity, here's kind of how I would handle things.

911
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: And so you know, you have to kind of project

912
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: that way. But the day to day now as a

913
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: head coach, I mean, you have to be involved with everything.

914
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: You know, You've got to be involved with the team,

915
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: you got to be involved with fundraising, You've got to

916
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: be involved with pushing your staff.

917
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: And I think to me that's probably the area that

918
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: I've you know, tried to address, you know, in the

919
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: last couple of years more than any is, like, you know,

920
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: making sure everybody in this building knows what the vision

921
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: is and they have direction and they're being held accountable

922
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: because that's the job of the head coaches to drive

923
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: the staff, is to drive the coaches to make sure

924
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: they're communicating with the players. And I think also alignment

925
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: within the building, and that doesn't just happen. You've got

926
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: to make sure that everybody on the is on the

927
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: same page with your culture. And something I've really focused

928
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: on the last few months, this is.

929
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: A question that you could have always asked about transfers

930
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: in general. I think it's probably more prevalent with the

931
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: portal now. So you guys preach culture, and I mean

932
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: to the man in the building. They'll tell you it's

933
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: not just stuff on the wall. Everything that you see

934
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: around here graphically is practiced. It's not just preached. Then

935
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: you've got an ability to add guys from outside, and

936
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: if they're talented enough to play here, you got to

937
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: consider it. What's the other side, what's the flip side

938
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: of that coin, the consideration of what do we do

939
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: when we add this guy to our locker room and

940
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: how much do you have to worry about that? Or

941
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: is it just put the best dudes in the room,

942
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: the best will win and we'll worry about the rest later.

943
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: Well. I think our overall.

944
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: Philosophy is we want to recruit high school players, bring

945
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: them in and develop.

946
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: Them along the way. If there are holes or if

947
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: there's a need, we're going to address it. And that's

948
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: the way we've always been here.

949
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: There's a couple exceptions, but for the most part, we're

950
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: not going to bring in fifteen to twenty transfers because

951
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: they're just available that to me is difficult on your culture.

952
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: I think our guys in our locker om have embraced

953
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: it because they know that it's making them better, that

954
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: we're bringing in really good players. But they also have

955
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: to it's gonna be the right fit. They have to

956
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: embrace our culture. You know, if you know the number

957
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: one thing they're looking for is nil Like, this is

958
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: not the right place for you. You know, if you

959
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: want to be around elite minded people who want to

960
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: be the best in the world at what they do,

961
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: this is.

962
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: The right place for you.

963
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: And we recruit nationally, so the guys from all kinds

964
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 3: of different backgrounds in that room, and so elite people.

965
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: They want to be around people who are also in

966
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: the same mindset who are elite because you can.

967
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: Learn from them, you can learn from their backgrounds.

968
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: But also we know that hey, like I need the kicker,

969
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: the kicker needs the three Technique, the three technique needs

970
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: in safety, like we all need to be in this

971
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: thing together. And then I think, once you get here,

972
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: you realize what Buckeye Nation, the support that they give

973
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: this team, and what Ohio State means to so many people,

974
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: and then you start to see it build from there

975
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: and the guys just embrace it, and that's the brotherhood.

976
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: And that's why we see so many of our former

977
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: players coming back and embracing our players that are currently

978
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: on the roster.

979
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: I would argue you, as an individual, may be in

980
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: one of the most unique positions in this sport. Number One,

981
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: you get to be the head coach at one of

982
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: the premier programs in America, and that's just a blessing,

983
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: full stop. But then you add on the expectation piece

984
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: and the achievement that you've had here. But then there's

985
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: that cap at the end of the year that goes

986
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: one way or another. If you're a fan and it

987
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: doesn't go your way, you can just sulk and not

988
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: go to work for a week, but you get to

989
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: cocoon yourself. You are not void of human emotion either.

990
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: But the difference is you got to be accountable to

991
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: an entire organization and be the face and leader of

992
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: an entire organization, and you don't get a week. You

993
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: got to immediately, you gotta walk in the locker room,

994
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: you gotta walk to a press conference. You've got to

995
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: be that. I would imagine that's like shaking up a coke.

996
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: But then you don't twist the top and all that

997
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: pressure is built up, but you still got to look

998
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: the same, you still got to act the same, and

999
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: you got to be a folks. How difficult does that?

1000
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know the answer. It's a challenge.

1001
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: But I think you know, when you have a setback,

1002
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: you give yourself about twenty four hours. You have to

1003
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: because you put so much into it. But then you

1004
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: wake up the next no one's feeling sorry for You're like,

1005
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: you got to go back to work. And I think

1006
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: you learn from going through difficult times. I think you

1007
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: learn from going through adversity. It makes you stronger, it

1008
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: makes you better. You look at all the people who

1009
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 3: have had success in the world, they've gone through difficult times.

1010
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 3: You know, whether it's coaches, players, people in the business world,

1011
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: you know, politicians just throughout you know us history.

1012
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't just happen. You go through difficult

1013
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: times and.

1014
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: You learn and you grow, and you have to embrace

1015
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: that and make sure that you're making the right decisions

1016
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: on a weekly basis to make sure that when you

1017
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: get to that point next year, you're ready and that

1018
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna make the next step. And so that's just

1019
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: been the focus. And I think you know when when

1020
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: you have that approach and you handle things the right

1021
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: way and you know you don't overreact, but you're react

1022
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: the right way, and then you know you push, you

1023
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: push through that time you work just on a daily basis,

1024
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: give everything you have to get back towards where you

1025
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: need to be. That when you accomplish your goals, it's

1026
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 3: that that much more satisfying. And you know, I learned

1027
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: this from CJ's Stroud. He said pressure is a privilege,

1028
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: and man, he's so right about that, because when you

1029
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: have pressure on your means your relevant means you living

1030
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 3: and that's the only the only way to live is

1031
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: that way.

1032
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: And I love that part of it.

1033
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: And you know, I work every day to try to

1034
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: get back to the point where we were the last

1035
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: year or two, where we have an opportunity to now

1036
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: take that next step.

1037
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: And that's what all this this has been about this offseason.

1038
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: It continues to be right now.

1039
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: I think that flies in the face of what outside

1040
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: opinion would be paycheck notwithstanding, if they look at your job,

1041
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: the normal person, the ninety eight percent would probably look

1042
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: and say, all that pressure's got to get to you.

1043
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: That pressure's got to be terrible, and to them it

1044
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: probably would be. You do have a certain percentage all

1045
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: be it very small, that is wired differently, and they

1046
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: embrace it and actually look.

1047
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: At it and say, no, no, it's actually a good thing.

1048
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of people out there with

1049
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: no pressure on it probably means and not making a

1050
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: difference probably means they're not doing something worthwhile.

1051
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: I would imagine that's the exact same.

1052
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: Way that you have to go into a living room

1053
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: and recruit. When you talk about finding guys that are

1054
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: right culture fits, you got to kind of want to

1055
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: find guys that look at a crowded position room and

1056
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: view that as a positive because it's going to bring

1057
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: out the best in them. I know, I sound like

1058
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm in a living room myself right now, but like

1059
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: that's there is a two percent mentality that you can

1060
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: build a winner with.

1061
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: And I'll have states off for everybody. It's not for

1062
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: the faint of heart. I mean, you have to want

1063
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: it and you're going to be at the highest level.

1064
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: I mean our fan base over twelve million, I mean,

1065
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: you know the amount would the most watched team on

1066
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: TV year and a year out and so you're going

1067
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: to get a lot of support patrols, You're going to

1068
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: get some criticism, and that's part of this thing. But

1069
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: you have to want to be that way. You have

1070
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: to think differently, you have to be that alpha. I

1071
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: think about where Marvin Harrison came in in the wide

1072
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: receiver room. I think there was like four five stars

1073
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: in that room. He didn't care, ends up being the

1074
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: blittant Cough Award winner, you know, in first round draft pick.

1075
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 3: And there's, you know that that mindset. When Quinnchewn Jenkins,

1076
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: you know, reached out to us and said that he

1077
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: was interested in coming to Ohio State, the first thing

1078
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: I did was called treyvon Henderson and say, Trey, we

1079
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to maybe bring Quinnchawn Junkins in.

1080
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? And it didn't take long for

1081
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: him say, coach, it makes us better. It's going to

1082
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: make me better. Let's do it. I like Quinn Schewn. Know, hey,

1083
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: quin Sewn, Trey's not going and he's not declaring in

1084
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: the draft. I love it.

1085
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: We'll push each other, will be better. Wear a one

1086
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: two punch, like that's what you want here? Now, it's

1087
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: not for everybody. Some guys will go other places say

1088
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: I want to be the guy or whatever. You know,

1089
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: that's just one example of the mindset that you have

1090
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: to have here. But you know, you have to want

1091
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: it all. And you know, I think about CJ for example.

1092
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: You know, there was some times CJ went through some

1093
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: tough times here. He learned from that, he grew from that,

1094
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: and now I think that's a big part of why

1095
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: you're seeing to have so much success in the NFL

1096
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: right now, was because of the adversity.

1097
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: That he hit. And that's a big part of life.

1098
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: And so you know, we talk to our guys all

1099
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: about that.

1100
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: And again, when you work through that adversity and then

1101
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: you succeed in the back end, it's that much more

1102
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: sweet because you know you've been through some difficult.

1103
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: Times when you're recruiting a guy and he's got every

1104
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: physical box checked and five star across the board in

1105
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: terms of how you eval a guy, but he doesn't

1106
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: have that mentality. Yeah, I think the normal approach, the

1107
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: normal instinct would be all right, he's got everything I want.

1108
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: Let me try and get him to have that mentality.

1109
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: So how much of it is now, let me convince

1110
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: you this is why it should be the way you

1111
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: think versus Okay, I found the way you think. I

1112
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: got to move on. This is part of the filtration process.

1113
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 3: I think it's a great question in the recruiting process

1114
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: now more than ever because of the transfer portal. You

1115
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 3: can try talking somebody in too, come in to your school,

1116
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: but it's not a recipe for success. You open up

1117
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: your doors, you explain why we think that you're a

1118
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: great fitteral house state, but you explain what you're doing,

1119
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 3: Like you're going to walk into a room. If you're

1120
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: a defensive end, you're to walk in with a bunch

1121
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 3: of really good defensive ends. If you're a quarterback, you're

1122
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 3: going to walk into a room with a bunch of

1123
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: five star quarterbacks.

1124
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1125
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: If you're a.

1126
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: Linebacker, you're going to walk into a room with a

1127
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 3: bunch of really talented linebackers. If that's what you want,

1128
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: and you embrace that culture and embrace that competitive nature

1129
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: on a daily basis, you're going to develop at a

1130
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: high level because, by the way, you're going to go

1131
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: against a really good player on the other side of

1132
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 3: the ball every day. Donovan Jackson's going against Tyler Williams

1133
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: every day in practice.

1134
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: And that's why those two guys are going to develop

1135
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: to be two of the best players in the country.

1136
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 3: Next year and hopefully both first round draft picks, and

1137
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 3: hopefully you know, you know, continue to be the best

1138
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: in the world at what they do and then carry

1139
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 3: on that with the younger guys.

1140
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: And this this is how we do things. This is

1141
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: the expectation at Ohio State.

1142
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: If that's the kind of environment but that these guys want,

1143
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: they'll grab onto it. If you have to talk them

1144
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: into it, or maybe they shy away from it, then

1145
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: you probably don't the right guy.

1146
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: What's it like when you get high school junior at

1147
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: a practice, fall practice, good on good, it's probably Tuesday.

1148
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: How much do you draw off from watching them? Watch that?

1149
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you physically can watch them on one of

1150
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: our spring practices. They're either almost like walking onto the

1151
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 3: field or they're just kind of taking a step back.

1152
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: You can physically see it. And some guys are still young,

1153
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: they're still figuring it out. But when I watch a

1154
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 3: guy and there's like a big rep and he's like

1155
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: almost running on the field as a recruit, I'm like, this,

1156
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: this is our guy, and then they tell you right away,

1157
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: or they step into the rivalry game in the stadium,

1158
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: or you know, big game at home on like a

1159
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: you know a night game, the blackout, and they come

1160
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: to that game and by the end.

1161
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: They're like that, this is what I want.

1162
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: I want to be in front of one hundred and

1163
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: five thousand people, with millions and millions of people watching

1164
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: across America.

1165
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: I want I want that stage. You know you got

1166
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 2: the right guy.

1167
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll go to places and maybe they're what you

1168
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: would call a little bit more developmental a program in

1169
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: that true freshmen normally aren't ready to play.

1170
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: They're just recruiting a different kind of athlete, and it's

1171
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 2: fun to watch.

1172
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: I love watching Big twelve football because it's really fun

1173
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: to watch natural progression of rosters and whatnot. You guys

1174
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: are in a situation where you recruit a lot of

1175
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: guys who physically are gifted enough to play as freshmen.

1176
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: The developmental piece is still very, very vital. But how

1177
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: different is that maybe looking at a six five and

1178
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: forty pound tackle and saying he's made of the right stuff,

1179
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: we don't need him to play for two years, versus

1180
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: this is Ohio State, like six' five three ten's probably

1181
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: what we're looking for because we typically are not using

1182
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: scholarships on guys we don't think are going to be

1183
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: able to play for a couple of.

1184
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: YEARS i think it's it's a great conversation because you,

1185
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: know we've been, talented you, know for you, know a long.

1186
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: Time we haven't always been veteran or.

1187
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 3: Experience and just because you're talented doesn't mean you're a

1188
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: good football player, yet that takes. TIME i think the

1189
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: thing about having, TALENT i THINK i think, again.

1190
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: You, Know i'm.

1191
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: BIASED i think we're the best in the world developing

1192
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 3: really talented the elite player at all positions here At Last.

1193
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: State because when you have a talented, player you know your,

1194
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 3: talent we, say Is god. Given god gave you your,

1195
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 3: Size god gave your. Speed it's your job to develop

1196
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: discipline and. Skill and sometimes the more talented you, are

1197
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: the harder is to be disciplined or. Skilled but when

1198
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: you get a guy like you know A jtt or you,

1199
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 3: know you know A Cody simon or A Caleb, downs

1200
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: or you Know Marvin harrison or you Know Trayvon, henderson they're,

1201
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: talented they're also, disciplined they're also.

1202
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: Skilled that's when you get the great. Player and so

1203
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: we really focus on.

1204
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: That your discipline is all the no talent, issues your,

1205
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 3: effort your, attitude your, focus your, preparation your, perseverance all those,

1206
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: things and then the, skills the skills of playing the.

1207
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: Position and you, know there's a lot of guys who

1208
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: are okay talent, wise but are super disciplined and super

1209
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: skilled who are playing in THE, nfl who are really

1210
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: good football. Players and, so you, know we have to

1211
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: make sure that we have that right balance of guys

1212
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 3: that are really wanted to focus on discipline and skill

1213
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: regardless of their.

1214
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: Talent what's some of the stuff when you first got

1215
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: hired as a head coach that you thought you had

1216
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good idea. About now several years in you

1217
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: could look back and tell that version of, Yourself, man

1218
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: you had no idea about this or. That what it's

1219
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: really going to. Take.

1220
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah as much as you prepare, you you don't

1221
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: really get a feel for how important your coaches. ARE i,

1222
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: mean they're the ones that are with the guys on

1223
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: a constant. Basis they're the ones talking to the players

1224
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: on a constant base and building, relationships making these decisions

1225
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: every day about, recruiting about relationships with, players about, motivation about,

1226
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: schematics all these little decisions, constantly and.

1227
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: They just build and build and build and, build and

1228
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: that really defines your.

1229
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: Team and so it's your job as the head coach

1230
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 3: to make sure that you're on that you have a

1231
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: feel for all those many decisions that are being made

1232
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: and making sure that it's aligned with the culture and

1233
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 3: that the guys are doing a great. Job and So

1234
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: i've been really much more thoughtful and deliberate about hiring.

1235
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: Guys to make sure that we have the right fit

1236
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: At Ohio, state because.

1237
00:55:59,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: To, me.

1238
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: You, know you may not notice that here At Ohio

1239
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 3: state until a matchup, game but you quickly learn how

1240
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: important those decisions.

1241
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: ARE i grew up in Rural, georgia just across The

1242
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: Chattoochie river From, alabama SO i grew up really close

1243
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: to The Iron, bowl and that gets really really pumped

1244
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: in you and you're immersed in. It as a kid

1245
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: in The, SOUTH i would hear About Ohio State, MICHIGAN

1246
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: i would watch it ON. Tv only recently HAVE i

1247
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: been able to come to the last two or three or,

1248
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: HOWEVER i, mean we've been to described for someone who

1249
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: loves the, sport but they've never been in that. Rivalry

1250
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: what that's, like because even just standing on the field

1251
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: from an intensity, Standpoint i've never seen anything like.

1252
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: That.

1253
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it started for me in. Seventeen we're playing

1254
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: up there AND. Jt barrett got hit by the camera

1255
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: before the. Game oh, yeah and it was, like you,

1256
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: know you don't quite understand you watch it ON, tv

1257
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: but you don't quite understand. It before you know What

1258
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: Dwayne haskins is in the. Game we're battling our tail

1259
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: off end up winning the. Game he ends up stepping

1260
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: up in a big way and showing some great toughness

1261
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 3: defense played really good that. Game and then you, know

1262
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: the next, year you, know we had a, great great

1263
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: day out, here had sixty two and that was a

1264
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: big day and you just you, know and then and

1265
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: then we played up there the next year in. Nineteen you,

1266
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: know that was that was a heck of a game

1267
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 3: and you could just feel, that you, know the impact

1268
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: That fields. HAD i, mean he He it's about.

1269
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: Toughness you, know that game is about, physicality and like

1270
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: he got his knee taken out put a knee brace

1271
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: back in two plays later throws a touchdown pass in

1272
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: the back of the end. Zone The Garrett wilson like AND. J.

1273
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: Jk dobbins played tough that.

1274
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: Game we got a couple of fourth down stops like

1275
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: it's it's about the physicality and the toughness of that.

1276
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: Game and you, know we we've let you, know a

1277
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: couple of those games get away from us there a

1278
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: couple of years and for different. Reasons and and you,

1279
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: KNOW i just think that when you're in that, game

1280
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: you just realize how much is riding on that. Game

1281
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 3: and so there's there's this fine line of you, know

1282
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: putting your whole world into, it but also you just

1283
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: got to let it. Go you, know you've got to

1284
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: go attack in that. Game you can't sit back and

1285
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: start to think about everything that comes with the, game

1286
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: because you know it is you, know there's a lot

1287
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: that rides with that. Game and certainly we all know

1288
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: that here and we embrace. It we live it every

1289
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 3: day of our lives. Here BUT i think you, know for,

1290
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: us you, know it's about, attacking you, know AND i

1291
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: think that that's something that you, Know i've learned the

1292
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: last couple of years and just making sure that we're

1293
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: going after these guys every single. Day but when it

1294
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: comes time to play the, game it's going to be

1295
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: that way because it is, intense you, know and it's

1296
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: going to come down in the fourth, quarter and the

1297
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: teams stronger again is going to. Win what's amazing to

1298
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: me is we could come up here in. SPRING i

1299
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: could watch seven on seven WORK i could watch quarterbacks

1300
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: throw to wide.

1301
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: RECEIVERS i could go to summer workouts and it's ninety

1302
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: two degrees outside and you're watching guys in, shorts no,

1303
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: shirts and everything looks. Great but you know that's leading

1304
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: to several months from now a thirty four degree day

1305
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: with light to moderate snow.

1306
00:58:59,200 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: Maybe falling in.

1307
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: It it's like the conditions that you're preparing for that

1308
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: in are so different than the conditions that it's going

1309
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: to be played in down the.

1310
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: ROAD i remember the.

1311
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: First time we came to that game a few years.

1312
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Ago it was up, there And i'm standing on the

1313
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: field before the game, THINKING i can't believe that that's

1314
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: how this leads up like, That that's that's the summer

1315
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: workout leads to. This right, HERE i was, Freezing i'm

1316
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: looking at a quarterback thinking that guy's got to play with.

1317
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: Precision, today that guy's got to make good decisions.

1318
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: In this environment. Today when do you know by the

1319
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: way that you've you've got the team that is going

1320
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: to be able to do, That, because like you, said

1321
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: it comes down to a few bounces here and. There

1322
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: you could you could never know those bounces are coming

1323
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: four months. Prior when do you start to feel like

1324
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: this team right here has the right? MENTALITY i trust

1325
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: this team they can go get it.

1326
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: Done, YEAH i think you. KNOW i think you always

1327
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: go into a game feeling that. Way you, know if you,

1328
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: don't you got the wrong. TEAM i just think that

1329
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: you know it's going to come down at the end

1330
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: of the end of the game to you, know who's

1331
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: there in the fourth quarter and who understands that this

1332
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: Is you, know you got a long, season Right you

1333
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: got eleven games that lead up to, that and those

1334
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: games are all, important but, ultimately like are you playing

1335
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: your best football right?

1336
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: Then and?

1337
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: There are you playing your best football in the second

1338
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: half of that? Game and you know you don't quite

1339
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: know till you get. There you try to prepare them

1340
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 3: the best you possibly can and put together a good,

1341
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: plan but we want to make sure that we're letting

1342
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: the guys be successful and we're letting them make an

1343
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: impact on the. Game SOMETIMES i think as, coaches you,

1344
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 3: know we can put too much scheme into the, game

1345
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: or we can try to get too cute about, it overthink.

1346
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: It you, know this is about letting our players play

1347
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: and impose their.

1348
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: Will all the football, stuff notwithstanding it's a vast majority

1349
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: of your. Life is there something that you may have

1350
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: that you think you're pretty good at that no one knows. About,

1351
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: Like i'll give you an. Example, Okay i'm a believer

1352
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: THAT i would Be i'm not telling y'all. Win but

1353
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: IF i were in a combat situation with a, shark

1354
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: let's just say in the, ocean not far and off

1355
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: offshore WHERE i can't touch the, ground SO i can

1356
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: touch the, ground SO i have my feet under, ME

1357
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: i THINK i could do, okay BECAUSE i think it's

1358
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: an eye goug like, that it's an eye goug. Situation

1359
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: what is a? Situation a setting that you think you

1360
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: could be.

1361
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: IN a talent that you have that they they don't know,

1362
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: about but they need to know. About oh, JEEZ i

1363
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: don't know you got me with this. ONE i don't.

1364
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: KNOW i mean that's a that's a one off right

1365
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: there fighting a.

1366
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: Shark hopefully anne. Off hopefully that'll be.

1367
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: Good, YEAH i you, KNOW i What i've been doing

1368
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: recently is just like reading a lot of books and

1369
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: like that's WHEN i get my free.

1370
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: Time LIKE i WISH i could think about things like.

1371
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: That IF i, Don't i'm trying to figure, out you,

1372
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: know how to motivate this team and how to find

1373
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: that last you, know one.

1374
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: Inch and.

1375
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: You, KNOW i will say that for me one of

1376
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: the things that you, know you have to get away

1377
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: every once in a while you have to just clear

1378
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: your mind because it usually when you come, back you're

1379
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: coming back with a clear, mindset the clearer. Perspective and

1380
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: so for, me a lot of times it's. Traveling you,

1381
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 3: know we love to, travel my wife AND i and the.

1382
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: Kids so we try to get away and see as

1383
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: many places as we. Can last year we went out

1384
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 3: To montana and to Know Big sky And Jackson hole and,

1385
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 3: that like that was fun being out there and you,

1386
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 3: know seeing those types of. Things AND i MEAN i

1387
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 3: can see myself like living out there IF i wasn't coaching,

1388
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: football and like kind of living that, world The yellowstone.

1389
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Life, YEAH i.

1390
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: COULD i. COULD i, Mean i'm not going To i'm

1391
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: a football, coach but LIKE i could totally see myself

1392
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: being out there in that, environment you know when you

1393
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: watch you, Know yellowstone and that that kind of. Environment

1394
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: being out there was really fun and it was really.

1395
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: Great you, know just how big it is out there

1396
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: and dangers around every, corner but it's a beautiful. Place

1397
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 2: do you have an, idea like a loose concept in

1398
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: your mind of how how long your career?

1399
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: Is like a lot of guys picture themselves as seventy years, old,

1400
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: right and what they're doing when they're seventy years. Old

1401
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: some guys just picture themselves coaching. Forever other guys, Say

1402
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: i'll coach for a little, while Then i'll venture into

1403
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: this portion of my. Life do you view your life

1404
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: like that or just one day at a?

1405
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: TIME a little bit of, both a little bit of.

1406
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: Both you, KNOW.

1407
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 3: I want to Beat Ohio state for a long, time you,

1408
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 3: know AND i know a big part of that is winning,

1409
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: championships and that's, why you, know that's where all my

1410
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: focus is and our focus is right. Now we love it.

1411
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 3: Here it's a great. Place columbus is a great. Place

1412
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 3: the people Of ohio are great and so you, know

1413
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: we gotta win championships.

1414
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: Here that's just how it. Goes and so we're gonna

1415
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: work our tail off to get that done and be

1416
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: here as long as we. Can but when WHEN i

1417
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: start to think past all of, THAT.

1418
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 3: I JUST i think about being around my, family being

1419
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: around the, kids being Around, nina and just doing what

1420
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: makes us.

1421
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: Happy and this.

1422
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: JOB i love this, job and, like you, know if

1423
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: you don't win, championships you know they gonna find another.

1424
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: COACH i get.

1425
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 3: That but at the end of the, day it's about

1426
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: the impact you have on people and the platform In

1427
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: Ohio state has to, offer and the impact you're having

1428
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: on the kids and the staff and all those types of,

1429
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: Things and no matter how it all shakes, OUT i

1430
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: want to make Sure i'm always doing that because to,

1431
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: me you, know that's what put you, know you put

1432
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: two feet on the ground every day coming out of,

1433
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 3: bed like what motivates, you you, Know and that's what

1434
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 3: motivates me, ultimately is to continue to do, that to

1435
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: have an impact on people and to help people In Buckeye.

1436
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: Nation but in order to do, that you gotta win,

1437
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: games and so we have to make sure we're doing

1438
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: that at the highest. Level SO i don't if they

1439
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: answer your. Question that's kind of HOW i.

1440
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: Think, well that's the weird part because like we talked

1441
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: twenty minutes ago about how ultimately it's just did you

1442
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: win a championship or did you? Not if you didn't

1443
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: win a championship At Ohio, state you should have failure

1444
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 1: of a. Season, Right that's how a fan would think about.

1445
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: It and to a certain degree you look at it and,

1446
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: say we were capable of doing this and we, didn't

1447
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: so we fell. Short but also you get to see

1448
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: inside your walls and there are like thirty seven hundred

1449
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: other compartments where you, know, hey this guy right here

1450
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: really developed in blossom this. Year that's an individual. Win

1451
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: this coach furthered his, career he got an. Opportunity that's

1452
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: an individual. Win which to, me IF i were in your,

1453
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: shoes is what would anger me the most IS i

1454
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: get judged just based on WHETHER i win a title

1455
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: or AND i lose or lose a. Title and like

1456
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: that's fair in one sense Because i've got all the,

1457
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: resources so to who much is given much is, expected

1458
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: but there are other areas that indicate giant green check,

1459
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: mark this was a, success this was a. Success how

1460
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: do you how do you sort of balance that stuff

1461
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: and not go crazy with people just saying success or

1462
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: failure whether you want the last game of the season or.

1463
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: Not, well when you're.

1464
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: When you're at a place of ohouse, date first, off

1465
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: when you have twelve million, fans you, know even if

1466
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: ninety five percent are are feeling good about, things you,

1467
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: know five percent is what almost five.

1468
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 2: Hundred thousands very vocal five? Percent, Yes SO i mean

1469
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: it's a it's a lot of. PEOPLE i, mean that's

1470
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: some people's fan. Bases so it's just it comes with the.

1471
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: Job like you just you have to you have to have.

1472
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 3: Fixedkin it's just the bottom, line because you know what

1473
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 3: what people, see you know isn't always reality about you

1474
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: know a lot of these, things and but it's it's.

1475
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: Part of the. Job and you, know that's that's why you,

1476
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: know you, know when you sign your name to do the,

1477
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: job like that's what comes with the, job, Right and

1478
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: no one's gonna feel sorry for you that that's that's

1479
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: WHAT i signed up.

1480
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: For it's WAY i want it you, KNOW i want

1481
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 3: people to want us to win every single. Game that's

1482
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: because that's that's what we. Want that's WHAT i. WANT

1483
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 3: i want to win every, game and when we, don't

1484
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: it's you, know it is a. Failure we got to

1485
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: make sure that we're doing. That that being, said you,

1486
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 3: know the reason why you wake up in the morning

1487
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: every day is to have an impact on people's. Lives

1488
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: and nothing makes me happier as a coach then first

1489
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 3: off seeing my family happy and seeing the team, happy

1490
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: but also seeing Buck Gye nation happy and the fans

1491
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 3: who are you, know celebrating On saturdays after a win like,

1492
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: that to me is something that that just drives me

1493
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 3: on a daily. Basis you, KNOW i have this vision

1494
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: in my head of, us you, know holding up the national,

1495
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: championship or celebrating against a team up north and just

1496
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 3: everybody in Buck Guye, nation twelve million, strong like celebrating

1497
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 3: on A saturday night singing the fight. Song and to, me,

1498
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: again those are the VISIONS i think about and it's

1499
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 3: what again motivates you on a day like, today sitting

1500
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 3: here In, april.

1501
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: Yep one more thing. HERE i watched the spring. Game

1502
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: i'm not going to draw a ton from. It But

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Speaker 1: i'm just looking at the quarterback. Position SINCE i have you,

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Speaker 1: Here i'll ask you instead of guessing, myself what does

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Speaker 1: that quarterback room look?

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Speaker 2: Like what did the quarterback position look like right?

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Speaker 1: Now exiting?

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Speaker 3: Spring, well first, off the room is. Strong those guys

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Speaker 3: and when you have five guys in a, room that's

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Speaker 3: not always. Easy but they're they're they're working well. Together it's,

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Speaker 3: competitive it's, talented you. KNOW i think you, Know will brings,

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Speaker 3: in you, know some experience with the fact that he's

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Speaker 3: won A big twelve championship. Before you, Know devan's been

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Speaker 3: in the program now for three, years so they both have,

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Speaker 3: experience one in the, program one outside the, program but

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Speaker 3: both pushing each other to make each other. Better lincoln

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Speaker 3: And julian are both, green both. Talented lincoln was a

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Speaker 2: There and then you Have julian And air and you,

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