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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Called Light of Health,

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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, Everybody. One Bill's Live is the show. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso with you. Steve Off for the day, Chris,

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Speaker 1: and to help us out. And Holy mackerel is stuff

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Speaker 1: flying around today. I mean we had an anticipation, Chris

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Speaker 1: that with the owners meetings there are gonna be some

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Speaker 1: newsworthy things coming out of there. And we'll get to

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Speaker 1: the Bill stuff first, But there is an adam bomb

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Speaker 1: that got dropped by Lamar Jackson, which we'll get into

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Speaker 1: a little bit later, and he dropped it directly on

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Speaker 1: what could be his former head coach of the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. We'll get into that in due course. First

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Speaker 1: things first, Sean McDermott with a very interesting comment right

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Speaker 1: out of the shoot when he was asked about defensive

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Speaker 1: play calling. As we know Leslie Frasier taking a year

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Speaker 1: the air as to what the final decision would be

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Speaker 1: about a month ago with the combine, when coach McDermott

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Speaker 1: was asked who's going to take over play calling duties,

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Speaker 1: he pretty much revealed today it's gonna be him doing it,

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Speaker 1: so that's pretty pretty big. Yeah, it's big, and I

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Speaker 1: think at this point of Sean mcdermot's head coaching career,

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Speaker 1: going to be a seventh year with the Bills, he

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Speaker 1: can handle it. What I'm gonna be watching most though,

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Speaker 1: is how that impacts, if at all, his in game management.

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Speaker 1: Is he still the good, aggressive play caller on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball in terms of going forward

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Speaker 1: on fourth downs, deciding when to punt, when not to

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Speaker 1: punt field goals, things like that. What's good though, is

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Speaker 1: that most of those decisions are on the offensive side,

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Speaker 1: so he can focus on the defensive side when the

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Speaker 1: Bills are on defense. When it's offense, he's certainly planning

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Speaker 1: ahead to the next drive, but we're still able to

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Speaker 1: do both. If this was first or second season for

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermot as a head coach, I'd be a little leary.

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Speaker 1: Can he handle all this on his plate year seven?

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Speaker 1: Spending multiple years, you know, decades as an assistant in

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Speaker 1: all of these things game planning and then calling the

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Speaker 1: plays along with making those in game decisions on game day.

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Speaker 1: And I know, just being around town and talking to

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Speaker 1: us are surprised, No, not at all, that Sean has

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Speaker 1: decided to call the plays on defense once we saw

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Speaker 1: Leslie Frazier step aside. This just seemed like a natural

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Speaker 1: way for things to go. Especially to your point, with

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Speaker 1: him now being in year seven as head coach, he

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Speaker 1: He can probably delve into play calling again on an

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Speaker 1: active down in down out basis. I think the main concern,

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Speaker 1: at least that I hear from fans is well, how's

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Speaker 1: he going to be able to manage the game when

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Speaker 1: he's talking to his defensive players when the defense is

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Speaker 1: off the field and the offense is on the field,

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Speaker 1: he should still be paying attention. I think that's where

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Speaker 1: he turns to his defensive staff and a guy like

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Speaker 1: or maybe John Butler, who has been a coordinator in

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Speaker 1: his past, or Eric Washington, the D line coach who's

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Speaker 1: those guys is kind of bringing them up and talking

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Speaker 1: care of that between series. Right. That's kind of how

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Speaker 1: I anticipate it, and that's why it's so important to

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Speaker 1: are very experienced. All those names that you just mentioned

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Speaker 1: whole other conversation about how they fill that. And McDermott

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking four or five years in this deal.

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Speaker 1: This is strategic. I think for the Bills. It certainly

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Speaker 1: makes sense it's not too much for the Bills players

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Speaker 1: or Sean McDermott because of all the experience in the

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Speaker 1: of course was the defensive coordinator calling the plays, Sean

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Speaker 1: So it's not like a completely new endeavor for Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: Just so everyone knows exactly how Coach McDermott phrase did,

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Speaker 1: I have most of what he said here. He said

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Speaker 1: not going to go outside to fill that role at

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Speaker 1: this point. I'm going to be the play caller. At

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Speaker 1: So he hasn't ruled out the possibility of, Hey, this

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Speaker 1: with solutions as to what that defense is throwing at him.

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Speaker 1: You know, Al take the defense here for the next

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Speaker 1: two series. You're calling plays and he's got you know,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna focus. It sounds like he's left himself open

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned Al Holcom. He's the newcomer to this

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Speaker 1: for multiple seasons. So again, it's not just hey, let's

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott has experience with, that came in with a

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Speaker 1: Somebody was asking him how much it might change from

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Speaker 1: Then unless you really do it yourself, it's never going

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Speaker 1: a couple of instances during Leslie Fraser's tenure here where

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Speaker 1: Sean would step in and sees the play calling from

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Speaker 1: him from a series or two. Sometimes it was just

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Speaker 1: because we're getting beat on this play or this scheme

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Speaker 1: and we got to adjust to that and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do it my way. And he's done that from

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Speaker 1: time to time, beyond just being his own man, who's

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Speaker 1: and here's the sperity between McDermott and Leslie Frasier. It's

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Speaker 1: and he said, I expect him to be very aggressive,

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't use that word in describing Leslie Frasier as

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Speaker 1: a play call. Well, that just kind of goes back

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Speaker 1: to the point that I just made. If Von Miller's healthy,

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Speaker 1: Gregory Russo's out there, the Bills address anything. In terms

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Speaker 1: blitz that much. And any defensive coord the most aggressive

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Speaker 1: in New York that blitz is the most would say,

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Speaker 1: just dropping seven in coverage. You know, whether it's man

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Speaker 1: But I think Sean McDermott to that point, he can

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Speaker 1: be aggressive if it calls for it. Where the defensive

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Speaker 1: I think it's in the carts room. He's done that.

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Speaker 1: He's had Carolina Panthers defenses that we're good, but weren't

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Speaker 1: those blitz rates, they're pretty high. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: when Sean was in Carolina as the DC, they usually

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Speaker 1: that is a big boy, grind it out line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: pound the tar out of each other division, whether it's Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is rock'em sock 'em football in that division.

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Speaker 1: So for a guy that's looking for greener past years,

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Speaker 1: just about anything looks less daunting in terms of being

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Speaker 1: taxing on your body than playing in the AFC North.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is rockham socking football every week and then.

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Speaker 1: And this would be kind of an interesting scenario, another

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Speaker 1: anomaly where pitching to a free agent, hey, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have to play that much. I think for a

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Speaker 1: six foot eight, three hundred or thirty six year old

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle that's certainly been beat up over the last

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Speaker 1: decade plus in the NFL, showing those percentages to say,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott never has defensive linemen that play over sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps. They're the most rotation heavy defensive

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Speaker 1: line in the NFL. That actually is a situation where

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Speaker 1: it would probably be more enticing to a free agent

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Speaker 1: as opposed to normally free agents want to come in

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Speaker 1: and play a thousand snaps get the most out of

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Speaker 1: their money. I think clay As Campbell could maybe say, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm cool with playing half the snaps and really maximizing

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Speaker 1: my talents here at the twilight of my career. The

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Speaker 1: other news that Sean McDermott was asked about in Arizona

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Speaker 1: concerned DeMar Hamlin. Judy Battista had some tweets over the

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Speaker 1: weekend because she got ahold of Sean on Sunday out

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Speaker 1: there a day earlier prior to the rest of the

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Speaker 1: media getting ahold of him, and he kind of reiterated

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Speaker 1: some of those comments today. He basically said he is

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Speaker 1: hopeful that DeMar Hamlin can play, but we'll support his

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Speaker 1: decision whatever it is, which will obviously be based on

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Speaker 1: advice of a number of doctors and specialists. And then

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Speaker 1: he said, because it is unprecedented for us, some of

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Speaker 1: the process in making that decision is out of the

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Speaker 1: Bill's hands. This isn't a Bill's decision, This is a

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Speaker 1: DeMar Hamlin decision at its core, he said, So we're

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Speaker 1: going to continue to be his secondary support as opposed

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Speaker 1: for the last several months. And then McDermott finished by

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Speaker 1: saying we're praying for him and hopeful that everything turns

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Speaker 1: out okay. The other news and knows that he brought

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Speaker 1: up the middle linebacker competition which is now wide open.

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Speaker 1: His words, Dodson, Bernard Specter will compete for it. He said,

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Speaker 1: they deserve a shot. We'll see where it goes. We'll

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Speaker 1: also see if they add somewhere, whether it's free agent,

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Speaker 1: veteran or in the draft. And he did admit it's important.

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Speaker 1: It's an important spot. It's the center of the defense,

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Speaker 1: a big leadership piece, he said, a lot of leading

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Speaker 1: by example. It's a unique position because of the responsibility

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Speaker 1: that comes with it, beyond making your own plays, lining

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Speaker 1: everyone up, knowing how we want to look defensively. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot for a young player, but there's a

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Speaker 1: first time for everyone. I mean they had a nineteen

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Speaker 1: year old, twenty year old running it five years ago,

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Speaker 1: and Tremaine Edmonds. So he said we'll see how the old,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing unfolds, but he said it will be

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Speaker 1: an open competition. Yeah, I think this is going to

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Speaker 1: have to be in the draft. This is just pure speculation.

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Speaker 1: But Sean mcdermot's coaching career, which we talked but earlier,

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Speaker 1: he's had Luke Keekley, who if he would have continued

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Speaker 1: I think, and then and he's big and athletic and

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Speaker 1: I think, intelligence wise on the field was well ahead

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Speaker 1: of being a nineteen year old, big, long and athletic.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a key position in Sean mcdermot's defense.

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Speaker 1: He's had two highly capable cover linebackers that are big,

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Speaker 1: long and athletic and can wear that dot on the

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Speaker 1: the players in the huddle. So it's certainly a key role.

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Speaker 1: They have some depth there that he mentioned, but I

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Speaker 1: think in the draft or maybe one of these Week

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Speaker 1: three free agents that are still out there at the

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Speaker 1: linebacker spot, they have to add to that position to

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Speaker 1: play next to mam Milano right. And if you look

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Speaker 1: at who they have right now, those players we mentioned too,

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Speaker 1: Reyle Bernard, you know, second year player, Baylen Specters, second

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Speaker 1: year player, seventh round draft choice and Tyrrell Dots an

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Speaker 1: undrafted player. And what is a third year now or no,

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Speaker 1: this is fourth This will be his fourth season. So

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Speaker 1: you've got players that have been worked in there a

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Speaker 1: little bit here and there, with I think admittedly mixed results.

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Speaker 1: So do they swing for an elite player in the

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Speaker 1: draft that can slide in there not only because of

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Speaker 1: the athleticism being off the charts, but has a proven

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Speaker 1: body of work in terms of production, not the Bernard

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Speaker 1: didn't or Spector didn't or anybody else, But do they

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Speaker 1: look to upgrade the spot rather than leave it up

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Speaker 1: to the forces of competition in training camp with the

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Speaker 1: three guys that we mentioned eight oh three, five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty the number

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Speaker 1: to get on board. Got an open line for you there.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is your defensive play caller. How do you

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Speaker 1: think it will impact Buffalo's defense. Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: phones and leading us off today is Mark in Eerie Pa,

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Mark here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I do not really like it, only just from the

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Speaker 1: fact that obviously coach McDermott's a really good leader, and

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Speaker 1: I know he's involved with game day prep all over

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Speaker 1: the board, and he's obviously intertwined throughout the organization and

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Speaker 1: just looking around the league like guys that call plays

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Speaker 1: and successful coaches like Sean McVeagh or even Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: out in San Francisco, you know, they've had veterans on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball that have kind of

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Speaker 1: taken care of that whole side. So for the Bills

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Speaker 1: to go into the year with the second year offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator that obviously had missed mixed results depending on who

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Speaker 1: you ask, I don't know if I necessarily love it.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it'd be easier if Frasier was there, but I

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Speaker 1: think there's guys on the staff that he knows and trust,

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Speaker 1: so I would rather have them call the plays and

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Speaker 1: then him stepped in where need it. But just want

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Speaker 1: to get your opinion on that, And thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: my call, guys, so real quick, Mark, just so I

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Speaker 1: understand it, it's not that you don't believe that McDermott

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Speaker 1: is a proven play caller. You're worried about him handling

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Speaker 1: too much game day. Is that the crux of your issue. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he's obviously a proven play caller. I just again, with

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Speaker 1: all the other things that go into game day planning,

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Speaker 1: I just would rather have him, you know, take care

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Speaker 1: of that because obviously the Bills have been very successful,

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Speaker 1: second most wins since he's coming to the league, behind

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. I kind of want to keep

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Speaker 1: that the way it was, right, Okay, thanks Mark for

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Speaker 1: the call, appreciate it. Yeah, I mean I get it

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Speaker 1: your concern, like because much like the Ken Dorsey thing

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Speaker 1: last year, Chris, you're in a position where you're saying, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a proven play caller and the Bills are the

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Speaker 1: second winning his team since he's taken over, next to

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. But can he do both? And

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Speaker 1: it's an unknown And I think that's where a lot

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Speaker 1: of this concern stems from. Yeah, and I think to

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Speaker 1: the progression of Sean mcdermot's in game management. He's gotten

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Speaker 1: so much better from earth like the first couple of

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Speaker 1: years as a head coach when there was some concern

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't aggresive enough, he wasn't going forward on

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Speaker 1: fourth down enough. Really, since twenty nineteen twenty twenty, they've

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Speaker 1: been near the top of the league in terms of

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Speaker 1: going by the analytics book when to go for it,

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Speaker 1: when to punt, when to kick the field goal, and

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Speaker 1: they've been one of the more aggressive teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: I can't envision a scenario where suddenly, because Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: is now calling the defensive plays, which he's done before

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo for eight years in Carolina and Philadelphia before that,

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Speaker 1: where suddenly they're just super conservative. They're punting the ball

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Speaker 1: on every fourth and two. I think with Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: being in Buffalo, they've understood, like we needed to make

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Speaker 1: this shift to become more aggressive as the quarterback has

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Speaker 1: gotten so much better and can convert those fourth and

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Speaker 1: threes or even fourth and fives and longer. That was

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Speaker 1: really my initial thought is are they going to continue

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Speaker 1: to be aggressive? I think they will, Yeah, I think,

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about this on the other side. And

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Speaker 1: it's a question that's fair to be asked. Was this

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Speaker 1: move made to assist the quarterback more because the constant

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Speaker 1: comp linked from a number of people and I even

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Speaker 1: raised this it's some time at some points last season,

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Speaker 1: are they asking Josh too much to be Superman every

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Speaker 1: single week? And maybe McDermott took a long look at

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Speaker 1: this and said, well, maybe I can help our superstar

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Speaker 1: quarterback if I'm calling the plays on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. Something that you on here as we

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Speaker 1: take a break, but when we come back, more of

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Speaker 1: your phone calls at eight three five fifty one eighty

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two, five fifty open line for you there.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is Buffalo's defensive play caller for this coming season.

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Speaker 1: What kind of impact do you think it has and

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? You let us know.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break here, but Chris and I back

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Speaker 1: with more on the other side here on One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Chris Trapasso

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Speaker 1: with you here on this Monday Steve Off today, and

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Sean McDermott's announcement that he will be

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Speaker 1: calling the defensive plays for the Bills this coming season.

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily a tremendous surprise, but what kind of impact

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Speaker 1: do you think it will have on Buffalo's defense this season?

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Speaker 1: You can let us know at eight fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty the number to get on board. We have open

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Speaker 1: lines for you there, or you can hit us up

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. We talked

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Speaker 1: about this as we went to the break, some of

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Speaker 1: the impetus for this decision, and as much as maybe

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Speaker 1: coach McDermot wants to put his stamp on the defense

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Speaker 1: with his play calling, you have to wonder also if

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Speaker 1: this is an exercise in helping his quarterback out more

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. And Chris and

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Speaker 1: I were even talking about this during the break. If

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Speaker 1: you look at their last few playoff runs, maybe, with

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Speaker 1: the exception of the Cincinnati game this past January, scoring

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Speaker 1: points in offense was not the issue at hand. It

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Speaker 1: was stopping the other teams from scoring themselves. And so

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Speaker 1: you wonder if McDermott says to himself, if I'm calling

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Speaker 1: this the way I want to call it and not

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Speaker 1: leaving it up to my DC to kind of handle

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Speaker 1: the critical plays, maybe we can get a few more stops,

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Speaker 1: prevent a few more scoring drives, and help my quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: so he doesn't have to do everything all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think for the playoffs, it's like the Bills

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Speaker 1: over the last five to six years been one of

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Speaker 1: the top teams regardless of what you're looking at points allowed,

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Speaker 1: yards DVOA from football outsiders, any of the analytics. The

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Speaker 1: playoffs haven't been nearly as good because in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: you're facing Joe Burrow, you're facing Patrick Mahomes. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen Justin Herbert yet, they'll probably see him at some point.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins offense that has playmakers all over the place,

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Speaker 1: you kind of have to tweak your philosophy for those games.

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Speaker 1: It's not facing even an average or slightly above average team.

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Speaker 1: Those are the best teams in the conference, and most

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Speaker 1: of the good quarterbacks in today's NFL happened to be

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. So this could be McDermott taking its

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Speaker 1: back and saying we need to do things a little

642
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Speaker 1: differently in those big regular season games against the Chiefs

643
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Speaker 1: and the Bengals, things like that. Inside the owned Division

644
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Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, with the Jets, if certainly there's Aaron

645
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Speaker 1: Rodgers there, but also the playoffs where maybe we don't

646
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Speaker 1: have to lean on not necessarily just Josh Allen running

647
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Speaker 1: the ball, but just the offense as a whole. Like

648
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Speaker 1: to not have to score thirty four points or forty

649
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: two points to win a playoff game. I get it.

650
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: In today's NFL, there's going to be yards accumulated, there

651
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: will be points scored. You're not going to win a

652
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: lot of playoff games fourteen to seven anymore or even

653
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Speaker 1: seventeen fourteen. But to maybe only allow like twenty one

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Speaker 1: points or twenty four points with Josh Allen's offense and

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Speaker 1: what he can do, that's probably the idea that Sean

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00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: mcdimmot wants to have a more hands on approach for

657
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Speaker 1: those critical games against the best offenses in the NFL,

658
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Speaker 1: and I think that's where the ire of the fan

659
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: base was at the end of this past season. More

660
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Speaker 1: of the complaints came on the defensive side of the ball.

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00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: People said, well, this fence is all well and good

662
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: during the regular season, we get to the playoffs and

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00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: we can't stop anybody. Now you are playing a higher

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Speaker 1: caliber of opponent. That's what the playoffs are but at

665
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Speaker 1: the same time, yeah, there were times where you felt like,

666
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: my god, they can't stop anybody right now, what's going on?

667
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: And it looked way too easy for the Bengals in

668
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: that divisional playoff. Again, I think there were other issues

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Speaker 1: at work there, namely that they just didn't have the

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00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: mental focus that they needed to have to play a

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00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: playoff game because of all that Damar had sapped from

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Speaker 1: them emotionally and mentally. And we don't need to go

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Speaker 1: down that road again. We all know what happened, and

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Speaker 1: I have an opinion on how I feel it impacted

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Speaker 1: the team. And I thought after it happened, this team

676
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: had no chance of winning the Super Bowl because mentally

677
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: they couldn't get into a mindset that they needed to

678
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Speaker 1: to play effective football down in and down out. There

679
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: was just too much going on in their heads that

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00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: distracted them. And I think once they saw the Bengals

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Speaker 1: take the field again, it was almost like PTSD because

682
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: it took them right back to the last time they

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Speaker 1: were on the field with the Bengals, and I just

684
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: think nobody wanted Lanto said it after the game himself,

685
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Speaker 1: I just don't think we had any juice today and

686
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Speaker 1: it's like, how do you not have juice for a

687
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: divisional playoff? I think the Hamling thing was a main

688
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: reason for that, but that doesn't mean that defensive play

689
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: calling couldn't be more creative, more sound, more effective. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's the step that coach McDermott is taking

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Speaker 1: here with this decision to be calling the plays himself.

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Speaker 1: So let's go to the phones and see what you think.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to David and Buffalo next. David, you're on

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. What do you got for us? Hey? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I just want people to remember that this guy he

696
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: was a deepestive, coordinated before he became a coach, right

697
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: with ain't like he don't know what to do. And

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Speaker 1: like I said once, I said, tway, if you don't

699
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Speaker 1: believe in him, then y'all step aside. Don't say get

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Speaker 1: rid of this or get rid of that that the

701
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: man put himself forward and see what God, thank you, bro.

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate the phone call, David. So there's a

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00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: guy that's in favor of it without question, and he's right.

704
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Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned it already. The guy was a

705
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Speaker 1: he was a coordinator of a a very young age in

706
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia. He was like a wonder kind when he

707
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: was in Philly, and then you know, goes down to Carolina,

708
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: has similar success, part of an NFC title team down

709
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: there as well, after the run of success with Andy

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00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Reid and Philly. So it's a proven track record and

711
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: as David pointed out, it's why he got a head

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00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: coaching job in the first place. Exactly, So pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Doug in Tonawanda next. What do you

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Speaker 1: got first? Doug thas guys for here me on. I

715
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: just think he should just think someone to be in

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Speaker 1: that DC position. I think it's too much for a

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Speaker 1: head coach to cover offense and defense. I mean, the

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00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: whole whole scheme of the game. What do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: So you're worried about You're talking about all the planning

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Speaker 1: during the week and all of that stuff. Is that

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Doug, even more than the play calling? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that's where he leans on his staff, Chris, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, he might be in the defensive meetings, but

724
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: maybe all Holcomb's running them or Eric Washington is running

725
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: them up at the front of the room after getting

726
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, debriefed on everything with his head coach, right,

727
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably how it's gonna go. Yeah, And

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00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: I could see this just being as simple as Sean

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00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: McDermott has all the respect in the world for for

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Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier. He did a great job in Buffalo really

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Speaker 1: managing these defenses over the last five to six years

732
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Speaker 1: into being one of the best groups in the league.

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Speaker 1: And it's maybe just like but it's just not quite

734
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: good enough in the playoffs. I want to be as

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Speaker 1: the head coach. I'm using my power to say I

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00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: want my hands on this more so than letting someone

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Speaker 1: else do that. And like you mentioned, that's how we

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00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: got the head coaching job. That's his area of expertise.

739
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's what Sean mcdermot's doing here.

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00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: The situation presented itself where Frasier steps aside and now

741
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Speaker 1: instead of saying all right, I'm going to hand it

742
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: off to someone else again, I'm going to now take

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00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: the reins here on the defensive side. Right. I think

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00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: he's got a certain level of trust with the men

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00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: on his staff, but I think in light of what

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Speaker 1: has happened in the last few years in the playoffs exits,

747
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: maybe even earlier than they anticipated divisional round each of

748
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: the last two years. I think he's it's a control thing,

749
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: and he says, well, I know that these guys are capable.

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00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: I have faith that they could do the job. But

751
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: we got to get to the promised land here with

752
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: the window we're in, and I know for certain that

753
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: if I'm calling it, what I can expect exactly because

754
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: I know me better than I know anybody else, So

755
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: I know what I would do in this situation. So

756
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to put myself in that situation and hopefully

757
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: the team is better for it. Let's go back to

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00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: the phones and we go to Rich in West seneconect.

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00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: What you got for us? Rich? Hey, guys, my question

760
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: is as Sean is a proven defensive coordinator, He's a

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00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: proven head coach. I'm just a fan, but I talked

762
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: with other fans and they talk about how noticeably we

763
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: talk about how noticeably tight Sean appears to be, and

764
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: some of those playoff games that we've had in recent years.

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Speaker 1: He got us there. I get it, But I just

766
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: wonder the stress of, you know, being the head coach

767
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: and also call him the defensive plays. How that how

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Speaker 1: that's going to play out. So are you worried about

769
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: hanging up and listen? Yeah, so Rich before you do,

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we're understanding you. So

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00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: you're worried about him swinging a little more conservatively come

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00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: playoff time? Is that the issue here? I think I

773
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: think it's more he seems I know this is going

774
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: to sound wrong, but he seems to lose it a

775
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: little bit, and those high, high energy situations in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know if it's a lack of

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Speaker 1: focus or whatever. This guy's a great coach. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he's not. I just I don't know, guys. I

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00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: just wondered what the added pressure of being the decordinator

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Speaker 1: along with the head coach, what that's going to look like.

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00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: I no question about his skill as a decordinate. Okay,

782
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: all right, I think I know where you're coming from now.

783
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: So again we're worried about it being too much. Not

784
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: that he's not capable, but will his capabilities be compromised

785
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Speaker 1: because there's too much on his plate. That goes back

786
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Speaker 1: to my kind of earlier micro point that in terms

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00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: of in game management, I think the vast majority of

788
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: those decisions are on the offensive side where I could

789
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: see someone saying, hey, look, he's gonna have to be

790
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: on the bench talking to the defensive line while the

791
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: offense is on the field. But again, I think that's

792
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: where you lean on these coaches that not only have

793
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: experience in the NFL, but have previously established relationships with

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00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott to say, hey, look, go talk to the

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Speaker 1: defensive line. We need to do this differently on the

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Speaker 1: next drive. This is the last two minutes of the half.

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Speaker 1: I need to see if we need to challenge a call,

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Speaker 1: or if we need to go for it, or we're

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00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: kicking the field goal, whatever the case may be. And

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Speaker 1: if he's maybe taking a step back and looking at

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00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: the entire situation, the entire organization, that that might be

802
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: something that he can look at himself and say, maybe

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00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: I do need to be a little bit more aggressive

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00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen in the playoffs to not pun it

805
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: or to not kick field goals in those situations, right,

806
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: And I think he's learned from his own mistakes quite frankly.

807
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: The AFC title game in twenty twenty, they're on the

808
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: two yard line and they elect to kick the field

809
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: goal before the half and they wind up paying for

810
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: it instead of trying to go for a touchdown against

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Speaker 1: a high octane offense that's going to get there is

812
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: more often than not, and proved it in every round

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs that year. You know, he probably looking

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Speaker 1: back on that, said, I got to be more aggressive

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Speaker 1: in the postseason, and the next year he was. So

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Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that's self aware enough to

817
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: learn from his own mistakes and learn when he didn't

818
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Speaker 1: make his best call and how to be better forward

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Speaker 1: going forward. So that's what encourages me with that. We

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Speaker 1: do have to take a break here. There's other Bills news.

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Speaker 1: A third set of stadium renderings are out. If you

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Speaker 1: saw him, what do you think of them? You can

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Speaker 1: weigh in on that as well. Eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five fifty to

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Speaker 1: number to get on board, Chris and I take a

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Speaker 1: break back with that and more on Sean McDermott as

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Speaker 1: your new defensive play caller. We'll see in a second.

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Speaker 1: Here on one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Back here on one Bills Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso on a Monday. And in addition to all

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Speaker 1: the stuff that came down at the owners meetings, there's

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Speaker 1: a new set of stadium renderings that were also released.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen him yet, you can go check

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Speaker 1: him out on Buffalo bills dot com. In addition to

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Speaker 1: some of the exterior shots of the stadium, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, it looks majestic, It looks awesome. Some

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Speaker 1: of the interior photos are ones that we have seen before,

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Speaker 1: but there are some concourse area shots that are of

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Speaker 1: particular interest. And looking at some of the adornments up

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Speaker 1: in the rafter areas of some of the concourse sections

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Speaker 1: where there are like open bars and all of that stuff.

842
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: There is branding out the wazoo, like you could get

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00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: dropped into this stadium out of the sky and you

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Speaker 1: will immediately know you are at a Bills game, which

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Speaker 1: is just what you know ownership and management is driving at.

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Speaker 1: They want you to know unequivocally you are in the

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Speaker 1: Bill Stadium at a Bills game. And all along we've

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Speaker 1: heard Executive Vice President Ron Riquias state this is going

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Speaker 1: to be a football first facility. It's not only gonna

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Speaker 1: be a football first facility, it's gonna be a Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills football first facility. Yeah, everything with like the decor

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Speaker 1: in the concourses. For it to be very fan forward,

853
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 1: it makes sense because to me, like over the last

854
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: ten years, Bills Mafia has become the most famous fan

855
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: base in the entire NFL. Yeah, that there's certainly a

856
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: lot of other teams, the Packers, the Stealers that travel

857
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: well in terms of having a name Bills Mafia and

858
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: how well they travel and all the tailgating scene every

859
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: Bills game, all the national stuff, Monday Night Football, Sunday

860
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: Night Football, there's always like some dedication to the Bills fan,

861
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: to the Bills Mafia. So to have that inside the stadium,

862
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: I think it is just perfectly aligned with how much

863
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: the Bills and their fans have kind of come together

864
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: and are so aligned over the last ten or so years,

865
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: especially from a national perspective. Yeah, it should be pretty

866
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: cool some of the common areas where fans can congregate

867
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: because as we've heard Ron Riculia say, also, no matter

868
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: where you are in a concourse, there will be viewing

869
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: of the field from wherever you are, so you're never

870
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: like separated from the game action even if you go

871
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: up to get a beer or something. Yeah, I think

872
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: the concourses are the biggest thing, because the seats and

873
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: the field aren't going to look weighed like drastically different.

874
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: It's going to be the same setup being in other

875
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: state around the league, just that are newer than obviously

876
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: the current high Mark Stadium. Just wider concourses. With you said,

877
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: more more drink availability, food availability. That was the biggest

878
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: driver I think in terms of what's exciting people, how

879
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna look when you go to the bathroom, when

880
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: you go to get a drink, and not only the adornments,

881
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: but just having more amenities inside those concourses, having them

882
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: be wider so it's not as crowded getting in and

883
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: out of the stadium. That's what I think should be

884
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: very exciting. Beyond just the outside. When you're in the stadium,

885
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: it's gonna look. But even when you do that, like

886
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: here at high Mark, you're separated from the game act sure,

887
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's going to be the case.

888
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: No matter where you are in the building, You'll still

889
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: be able to see the field, at least from what

890
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: I've been told. Even in the concourse areas. So when

891
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: you step away from your seat to go get whatever

892
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: you need to get or take care of whatever you

893
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: need to care of take care of, you should still

894
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: have view of the field, which is kind of a

895
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: cool concept. And I don't know how they're heck, they're

896
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: doing it, but I'm not an engineer, so it's not

897
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: for me to worry. But let's go to the phones

898
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: and we go to James in cheek towagan X. What

899
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: do you got for us? James? Hi? Guy, um how

900
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: are you doing? Good? Good? Um? I? You guys answered

901
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: what I had about the stadium, but I just wanted

902
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: to ask about the future of the team. Um. Am

903
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: I right to be worried about not getting any big

904
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: name players in free agency because I'm new to this

905
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: whole winning thing from the team I grew up when

906
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: you know, Drew Bledsoe and j P. Lassman got it,

907
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: and um, I just feel like we're sitting around right now.

908
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: Am I right to be worried? Or am I? No?

909
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Yeah, I don't think it's about

910
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: worrying about the future of the team, James. It's it's

911
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: the fiscal issues that the team currently faces. There's limited

912
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: cap space, so they can't throw money around like crazy.

913
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: And we got a little spot last year because we

914
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: were told, hey, probably no big swings in free agency,

915
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: and then out of the blue, Von Miller drops out

916
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: of the sky and is available, and we're like, ah,

917
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: the cap doesn't matter, let's have some fun. And people were,

918
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: you know, everybody was stamping the Bills as a Super

919
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: Bowl favorite at this time last year, and I understand why,

920
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: but more often than not, this is gonna be kind

921
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: of the norm for the Bills because they are a

922
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: good team with high priced, elite talent players that gobble

923
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: up large portions of the cap, leaving less for I

924
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: guess what you would call the NFL's middle class. So

925
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: now you resort to signing a bunch of players to

926
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: one year deals and then you have your elite players

927
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: at the other end of your financial picture. And that's

928
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: kind of how it is now. Yeah, And like a

929
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: lot of my friends have kind of had a similar question,

930
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: So to answer it, what I've kind of already said

931
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: to them is the Bills already have those big ticket guys.

932
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: They have Josh Allen, they have tradevious White, Stefon Digg,

933
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: Von Miller, Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano, people that have made

934
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: all pro teams, gotten Envy votes that are in the

935
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: top ten to twelve at their position. You have to

936
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: sign those big ticket items to get to where the

937
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: Bills are. They're already there. Building through the draft is

938
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: going to be absolutely vital. And signing guys like Damien

939
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Harris to a one year deal who can be that

940
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: downhill kind of bell cow running back to pair with

941
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: your young player in James Cook and Nahem Hines Diante

942
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: Hardy to fill in that Isaiah McKenzie role. That's how

943
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: the teams that have an established, high paid quarterback and

944
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: elite players at premium positions like the Bills do, have

945
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: to fill out the rest of the roster. We gotta

946
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: take a break here, but a big hour number two

947
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: coming your way, which is going to be kicked off

948
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: with NFL Network Draft analyst Bucky Brooks. He just released

949
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: his top five players at every position in this year's

950
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: draft pool. We're gonna go over some of the perceived

951
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: need positions of the Bills and go over some of

952
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: those top guys when we return with Bucky Brooks here

953
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: on one Bills Live presented by Kalad of Health. It's

954
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. This is One Bills Live presented by

955
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: called Light of Health. All right, here we be our

956
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: number two. Chris Brown, Chris Trapasso with you on a Monday.

957
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: One Bills Live is the show and please to be

958
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: joined now by NFL Network Draft analyst. He is hard

959
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: at work this time of year, maybe more so than

960
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: any other, chopping up the tape on prospects. It is

961
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: the one and only Bucky Brooks and Bucky First, Thanks

962
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: for giving us some time because we know you are

963
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: busy this time of year, Holy Crow, with all the

964
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: stuff you're churning out on NFL dot Com, doing the

965
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast on NFL Network, you know, chopping

966
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: up the draft. Have you had a chance to breathe here? Yeah,

967
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: this is a busy time of year, but it's a

968
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: fun time of year because after the Super Bowl, everyone

969
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: gets an opportunity to reset, recalibrate, and then the optimism

970
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: and the hope for the next Super Bowl champion stars

971
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: in earnest and so it's been a great run with

972
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: free agency nearing a conclusion, all eyes on the draft,

973
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: and so this is a fun part of year. All right,

974
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: so let's begin with still a perceived need position for

975
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: the Bills. All rumors about DeAndre Hopkins trade aside as

976
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: there's a number of teams hoping to land him, I guess,

977
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: but Jackson Smith and jigbe is at the top of

978
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: your wide receiver list in terms of your recently released

979
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: top five by position in the draft class. A lot

980
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: of people label him arguably the best route runner in

981
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: the draft. Do you come down on the positive side

982
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: of that argument? Absolutely, I'm with that. He reminds me

983
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: very much a young Stefan Diggs in terms of how

984
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is able to really win with precision and

985
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: polish on the outside. This dude is man. He is

986
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: mature beyond his years when it comes to his route running,

987
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: ability to diversity, and the stuff that he puts in

988
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: his routes work primarily from the slot. Didn't have a

989
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: lot of production dissue due to injury, but when you

990
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: go back and watch the previous season, he is terrific.

991
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: He works the middle of the field, He's fearless, great

992
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: with the hands. I love the ball skills in those things.

993
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,959
Speaker 1: But this guy gets open. He gets open against any

994
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: and all comers. He should be a fantastic pro. I

995
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: have a question about another receiver, Quentin Johnson from TCU.

996
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: You have him as your number three wide receiver in

997
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: the draft class, and really at the beginning of this

998
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: pre draft process, it kind of felt like he was

999
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: going to be the first receiver off the board, nowhere

1000
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: close to where the Bills are picking later in the

1001
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: first round. Your colleague, your Movie Sticks podcast partner Daniel Jeremiah,

1002
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: mocked Quintin Johnston to the Bills at twenty seven in

1003
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: his most recent mock draft. Why are you a little

1004
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: bit maybe lower on Quintin Johnston than some other analysts

1005
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: And do you think if he was there at twenty

1006
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: seven it would make sense just in terms of what

1007
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: he does on the field for the Bills to ultimately

1008
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: pick him. This receiver class is difficult to evaluate because

1009
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: there's not what we call a true wide receiver one,

1010
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: meaning a true number one receiver that when you pluck him,

1011
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: he's going to be the number one guy from day one.

1012
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: What you have is a lot of complimentary pieces, meaning

1013
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: guys that you need to slot in certain roles. If

1014
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: you put them in those roles, they can certainly play

1015
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: at a high level, an all star level. Even Johnson

1016
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: is you speak guys, you straight lane speak guy. He's big,

1017
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: he's fast, he's tremendous at the system and tools. He's

1018
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: not necessarily a polisher out runner, and he's what we

1019
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: call a body catcher, meaning you won't see him really

1020
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: extend and catch balls outside the strike zone with his hands.

1021
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: He prefers to cradle it. When you have guys that

1022
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: are like that, you almost have to account for a

1023
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: couple of drops here and there. Some of those dropts

1024
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: may happen in key moments because that's who he is.

1025
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: He could exceed expectations, but you have to know at

1026
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: a floor level, at a basement level, he's gonna have

1027
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: some some drops, and he's gonna have a tough time

1028
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: necessarily getting open running precise routes. You gotta keep him

1029
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: on the move to make him to put him in

1030
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: a position to be at his best. One guy you

1031
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: had in between Smith and Jake Ben Johnston is a Flowers,

1032
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: a Boston college kid. Do you see him strictly as

1033
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: a slot because of the size, or are there offenses

1034
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: this day and age that could have him do more

1035
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: than just that. I think you can do more. I

1036
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: think he can play all over the field. Normally, when

1037
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: you play slot that's the position. It means you also

1038
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: are able to play z which is a flaker position,

1039
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: which puts you off the ball. So now you get

1040
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: to use space, you can have motion, you can do

1041
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: all these things to create opportunities for you to get

1042
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: off clean Zay Flowers to me, reminds me a lot

1043
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: of how Antonio Brown used to play. Lots of energy,

1044
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: great creativity when it comes to his releases and how

1045
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: he gets open terrific ball skills. He has all that,

1046
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: He showcases all of that when he's on the field.

1047
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: He's an elite leaked playmaker, and so I expect to

1048
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: him to have a lot of success because he can

1049
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: win using the craft, using route running skills as opposed

1050
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: to just his pure speed and athleticism. All right, So

1051
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: flesh that out for me a second here, Bucky, Because

1052
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: you say creative with his releases just for the just

1053
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: for the fans out there, maybe explain what you're getting

1054
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: at there. Does that mean his releases have a wide

1055
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: ranging repertoire or is he just somebody who's clever in

1056
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: the way a defender might be lining up against him.

1057
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: He's clever in terms of playing against the leverage of

1058
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: the fender. So whether that's in bubber run ear you know,

1059
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: on people playing outside, whether it's facing a DP in

1060
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: space and he's having to work to the leverage of

1061
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: the defensive shoulder to kind of put him in a

1062
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: situation where he has to cover multiple route sidden thing.

1063
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: He has all of that. You saw him there catching

1064
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: fifty fifty ball. He has a lot of things that

1065
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: you just can't coach. You just can't coach someone to

1066
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: catch the ball like this, and you can't teach somebody

1067
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: how to track these difficult balls over your left shoulder.

1068
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: He kind of has it. He's a special player, all right.

1069
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: I want to switch to the defensive side of the

1070
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: ball because right now the Bills, I think, have a

1071
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: pretty clear glaring need at the middle linebacker spot. You

1072
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: have Drew Sanders from Arkansas, the Alabama transfer at number

1073
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: one in your linebacker group, but just an interesting group altogether,

1074
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: I think, because there's a lot of different flavors. Explain

1075
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: the differences between Drew Sanders and the guy that I

1076
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: like a lot, Jack Campbell, in terms of what type

1077
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: of linebacker they are, and it could bring to the

1078
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: Bills defense. That's interesting because I just found out I

1079
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: didn't know this that Luke Keikley was training Jack Campbell,

1080
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: and so when you think about the Buffalo Bills and

1081
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: the connections, there would be no one who knows more

1082
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: about Jack Campbell than the Buffalo Bills based on the

1083
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: relationship with Luke Keickley. These guys are both interesting and

1084
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: I love both of them as Mike linebackers. Sanders is

1085
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: a guy who has pass rushing ability. You're talking about

1086
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: a guy who had on nine ten sacks coming off

1087
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: to second level place are really relentless in terms of

1088
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: his approach, great instincts and awareness, and so for him

1089
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: to make I would say a very difficult transition going

1090
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: from and edge players to being able to play inside.

1091
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: To me, that that speaks volumes about him. And then

1092
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: when you think about Campbell, Campbell is just old school

1093
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: in terms of instincts range, his diagnostic ability, controls the

1094
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: tackle to tackle box, and he has a strong nose

1095
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: for the ball, and I just think those instincts make

1096
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: it very very difficult for offenses to deal with him.

1097
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: And both players you're getting high they productive players. I

1098
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: would say Sanders and maybe the one that is a

1099
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: better blitzer are more effective after sub packages if you

1100
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: could move them around. But Campbell plays a position like

1101
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: he's been playing for the last thirty five forty years,

1102
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hard to pass that up. And

1103
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: so Bucky the interesting thing and I realized Nolan Smith

1104
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 1: is a completely different animal who you have listed as

1105
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: your second best linebacker. Obviously he's a pass rusher by trade.

1106
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: What makes Sanders one, I guess and Campbell four. What's

1107
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: the biggest difference between the two. If you could maybe

1108
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: split some Harris for us, you know, like, it's really

1109
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: not that big of a difference. When you look at

1110
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: these linebackers, it's really comes down to taste and flavor

1111
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: and then projected role that you're going to play. The

1112
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: thing that we have a difficult time doing is because

1113
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: college football has become so position lists, it's hard to

1114
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: really label these guys the old school labels, the traditional

1115
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: labels that you have on draft wars. Drew Sanders was

1116
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: an edge player that plays inside Arkansas, but he spent

1117
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: most of his career playing on the edges. Nolan Smith

1118
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: is a guy that can play with his hand down.

1119
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: He can stand up, but then you project him to

1120
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: be maybe an outside linebacker that plays in a stacked

1121
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: position at the next level trend Simpson great athlete, trigger

1122
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: fires a little sloor than some of those other guys,

1123
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: but the athleticism allows him to make up for a lot.

1124
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: And then you have Campbell with the old school instincts,

1125
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: the old school thumper that plays in the middle. If

1126
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: you're asking me the difference between Sanders and Campbell, it

1127
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: just comes down to taste. What are you going to

1128
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: ask the inside linebacker to do. Are you gonna ask

1129
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: him to be incorporated in a part of the pass

1130
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: rush or do you want a traditional old school linebacker

1131
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: that can control the tackle box, can blitz on occasion,

1132
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: can play down the middle. Well, if that's a choice,

1133
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: and Campbell might be a guy either way, I don't

1134
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: know if you either guy terrific. Yeah. I have a

1135
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: question about the offensive lineman in this class, because I

1136
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: think there is a scenario in which the Bills could

1137
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: maybe go offensive line relatively early in the draft, maybe

1138
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: even in the first round, if the board falls in

1139
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: a specific way. Do you see Peter Scarronsky, who is

1140
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: your number two offensive tackle in this class offensive tackle

1141
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: only or do you think he could play guard? Is

1142
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: at his better position because the Bills have a long

1143
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: history now in this Brandon Being era of loving and

1144
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: prioritizing versatility along the offensive line group, and to kind

1145
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: of follow that up already, is there any other of

1146
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: these top tackles that you think could actually move inside

1147
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: to guard in a pinch if they needed to. Yeah,

1148
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: and adversatility is to be coveted everywhere. And the reason

1149
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: why you want a versatile offensive line where you can

1150
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: miss the matches normally own game that you only can

1151
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: dress eight sometimes nine guys. So two of those guys

1152
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: have to be swinging players, meaning they have to play

1153
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: tackle and guard. You have to play center and guard,

1154
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: and you have to in a perfect world, you want

1155
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: to put your best five linemen on the field and

1156
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: you want to be able to kind of reshuffle the

1157
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: deck to get it done. And Scarronski he certainly appears

1158
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: to have that ability. He is technically sound, He's really

1159
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: flawished with his footwork. The thing that you worry about,

1160
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: the arms aren't necessarily prototypical length in those things, and

1161
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: so that's why you hear people project him kicking inside.

1162
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: He kicked inside, he'd be a terrific guard. That versatility

1163
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: is real, and it's one of the reasons why people

1164
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: love him. And with the rest of the guys. When

1165
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: you look at the centers, you think about John Michael Smith,

1166
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: Do you think about Luke White Player, Joe Pittman, Tipman.

1167
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: Those guys can kind of bounce around and do multiple

1168
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: things because they're super athletic when they had to pivot,

1169
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,959
Speaker 1: So that leads you to believe they also can play

1170
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: one position over to the right and love and play

1171
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: offensive guard. Knowing the Bills pick twenty seven here in

1172
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: round one, it's unlikely they even get a sniff of

1173
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: any of those top three tackles. Maybe Darnell Wright slips

1174
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: down there or Anton Harrison from Oklahoma. What can you

1175
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: tell us about those two? I mean, I know Wright

1176
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: played right tackle last year and he's a massive dude.

1177
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm surprised his feed are as good as they are

1178
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: carrying so much weight. What he seems to be almost

1179
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: a bit of an anomaly because you don't see fleet

1180
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: footed guys carrying that kind of tonnage. Yeah, none, it

1181
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: You just don't see supersized as blockers like that. This

1182
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: is guy in his heavy hands. He plays with a

1183
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: nasty temperament. You already alluded to his ability to kind

1184
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: of move around. He's a big dancing bear in space,

1185
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: and when you look at him, you say, oh, this

1186
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: is a maller brawler type. He's just go kind of

1187
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: lean and mash and mall people. But now he has

1188
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: some ability that is that is really really different. He

1189
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: plays on the right side, but I just kind of

1190
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: want it. And once again we've talked about like a

1191
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: taking your best five and what you can do. He's

1192
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: a terrific right tackle. I wouldn't necessarily put him in

1193
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: left tackle. I just know that he is a dominant player.

1194
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: He could be a dominant player for a long time

1195
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: if he's positioned on the right side, because that's what

1196
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: he's always do. That's his natural spot, all right, Bucky.

1197
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: As a draft guy myself, I gotta ask you, and

1198
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't mean to really put you on the spot here.

1199
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: You can throw out any name you want. Who is

1200
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 1: that first round guy in your opinion that you seem

1201
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: to be much higher on When you look around the internet,

1202
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: other TV shows, listen to other podcasts that the rest

1203
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: of the kind of draft community is not nearly as

1204
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: high on. Is there one player where you're just banging

1205
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: the table for that guy that you think he's a

1206
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: first round talent or just way undervalued at this point

1207
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: as were exactly one month away from the draft. Now

1208
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: it's funny because I used to feel like Jackson Smith

1209
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: and Jigbu was that guy. But now I feel like

1210
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: that everyone has caught on after you kind of watched

1211
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: him workout. Let's go to edge rusher and I'll say,

1212
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: Keyon White from Georgia Tech to me is a bit undervalued.

1213
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a hard working, relentless player off

1214
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: the edge. He kind of has some of that NonStop

1215
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 1: stuff that really fits in. Well if you're a blue

1216
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: collar team, a team that lights come to those blue

1217
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: collar guys. To me, that Georgia Tech kid has a

1218
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff that you're you're looking for. And

1219
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: the other one I would say is Brian Breezy from Clemson.

1220
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: You have to understand when he was coming out of

1221
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: high school, he was a cast me out. He might

1222
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: have been a number two recruit and the country had

1223
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: a really good freshman year. Gets hurt. Then his sister

1224
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: passed away with cancer, and so that impact of the

1225
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: way he played. But once you look at the tools

1226
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: and you go back and you look at the production,

1227
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: the production over the course of his time in Clemson,

1228
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: to me, I feel like people might be missing the

1229
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: boat a little bit on him and what he could

1230
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: be at the next level. Speaking of defensive tackles, the

1231
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: last one I've got for your buck is a guy

1232
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: that you had fourth at DT, Mosi Smith from Michigan,

1233
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: who may not be big in terms of body of

1234
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: work production, but is in terms of measurables's. We always

1235
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 1: see this all the time, almost every year, Bucky. There's

1236
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: always some of these big guys that look like they

1237
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: have all the physical tools, but there's a risk. You

1238
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: wonder what you're getting and I'm wondering if Mozzi Smith

1239
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: falls into that boat, what's the risk level there? With

1240
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: the risk level is the production doesn't necessarily match the

1241
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: prototypora physical dimensions. But Michigan has had a few of

1242
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: those guys recent years that have been like that. Richard

1243
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: Garrett was like that, you know, great athlete, but you

1244
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 1: never saw the production and then it takes a little while,

1245
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: but then it pass for him. In Green Bay. Mozzi

1246
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: Smith is that great athlete, but I think he has

1247
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: a bad stance. He's kind of assists in that stands

1248
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: like a frog, and so you never see him really

1249
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: come out and explode and dominate. But then he's in

1250
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman's Freaks list and you see the numbers and

1251
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: just what he does in terms of moving weight and

1252
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: jumping and all of this stuff. I mean, this is

1253
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: a I mean you talk about like a world class

1254
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: athlete at that size, and so some of it depends

1255
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: on the coaching and what you have in the building

1256
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: and who's going to touch him. He has a lot

1257
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: of potential, and so sometimes in this class there are

1258
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot of decisions that I met made more so

1259
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: on potential than production. Right, what are we thinking like

1260
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: probably early day two for him, or do you think

1261
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: he sneaks in? I think borderline. I think borderline. I

1262
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: think you can see anywhere at the bottom of the

1263
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: first round on top of the second round, Mozzie Smith goes.

1264
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: He races as the top forty five player. A lot

1265
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: of it is in my estimation when I look at

1266
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: his draft class, Normally you have anywhere from eighteen to

1267
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: twenty four guys that are first rounders this year, I

1268
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: would say maybe you have fifteen that would be consensus

1269
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: first rounders. So from fifteen to forty five, there are

1270
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: a lot of talented players and they're going to be

1271
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: ranked in all kinds of order, so I wouldn't be

1272
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: surprised to see him go at the bottom at the

1273
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: first Bucky, thanks for all the insight. We appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time during this busy time of year four. You will

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Speaker 1: keep a lookout for more of your stuff on NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com and on NFL Network. Thanks much, Hey, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me on the guys. All right, that's Bucky Brooks,

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01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: NFL Network Draft analyst, and just put out his top

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Speaker 1: five at every position in this draft class. I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you, Chris, when you have fifteen consensus round one

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: grades on players, that leads to a whole lot of

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: not only uncertainty as to what's going to come after that,

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01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: but that makes it's super topsy turvy because you know

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Speaker 1: that maybe there's some teams that only have fifteen guys

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01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: with first round grades, and the people in the bottom

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Speaker 1: of that round, they you're looking to get out, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they can get proper value in their estimation. Yeah,

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: it just screams trade back. Honestly for the Bills, if

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01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: we're just taking a guess one month out. I mean,

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01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: last year the Bills traded up because kyer Elam they

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Speaker 1: said was their last first round pick. Yeah, maybe this year,

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Speaker 1: if in general at the top this class is not

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: as strong, the Bills might get to twenty seven and

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01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: say we have no first round tails on our board. Yeah,

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01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: that let's trade back. Let's try to get an extra

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Speaker 1: third and a fourth and round out the roster with depth.

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01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: That way, we don't know how many of the Bills have.

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01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: Some teams will have twenty, some teams might only have ten.

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Speaker 1: It definitely is a different kind of feel this year

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01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: than last year. I think it's safe to say nobody's

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Speaker 1: gonna have thirty two. No, definitely, not close to that.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think probably on the low end it's

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01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: like twelve to fifteen. Probably on the high end it's

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: maybe twenty two, twenty four, like maybe, and that might

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: be pushing it, which really says something about this class

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01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: because I think COVID hits and some players said I'm

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01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: coming out now, and you had two draft classes the

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01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: last two years that were flush with a lot of

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01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: extra talent, particularly at the receiver position. And now it's

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01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: almost like you're feeling the effects of that in this

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01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: year's class, because it is thin at a lot of positions,

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01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: Like it's not as deep at receiver, it's precariously thin

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle, safety, a couple other spots. There's sharp

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01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: drop offs at other positions like linebacker. Really feeling I

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01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: think the effects of what the last two draft classes did. Yeah,

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01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: and then to just speak specifically on what Bucky talked

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01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: about the linebacker class at the top, with that to

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01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: me being the Bill's most clear cut need. I said

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01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 1: it to Bucky the top of the linebacker class, three

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01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: different completely type linebackers that he mentioned. Drew Sanders is

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01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to call him Michael Parson's two point no,

1322
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: but he's kind of that type where you can play

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: him off the line, but you really want him rushing

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: off the edge. Trenton Simpson is kind of that slot

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: defender will linebacker that you just want in space because

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: he runs in the four fours and he's got crazy

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: explosion but maybe does an id plays as quickly as

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01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: you'd like. And then you have Jack Campbell who did

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: test very well two years of surefire full time starting

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01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: at Iowa. Maybe not as fast in a straight line

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01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: four six five at the combine, but the mental side

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01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: and understanding where to be in coverage better than all

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01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: of those linebackers. I'll be interested to see not only

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01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: just where the Bills ultimately go, but how those players

1335
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: fall in the draft, to see what the league prioritizes more.

1336
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: Is it athleticism? Is it Are you a good tackler?

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01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: Can you play in space? Those are three at the

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01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: top consensus that are way different players, and Nolan Smith,

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01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: who in some people's eyes is an edge but is

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01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: listed in linebacker on BUCkies List, may go before all

1341
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: three of those guys, just because he's so bendy and

1342
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: did stupid things at the combine. What was sub four

1343
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: four nine? Holy crow? I mean he's just he's a

1344
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: freak a zoid on steroids. I mean he's not on steroids,

1345
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying. He's like enhanced freak

1346
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: a zoid. He blew me away three eighty four three.

1347
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew he was gonna run really well,

1348
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: but I was not expecting sub four four from a

1349
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 1: guy who might be playing will linebacker in the league,

1350
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, and blitzing off the edge and awful lot.

1351
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy is an unbelievable physical specimen in

1352
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: terms of testing, and he has some I think he's

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: got enough production. Even though it's hard to get on

1354
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: the field at Georgia if you're an underclassman because they

1355
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: got five stars coming out of their ears, it's hard

1356
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: to get on the field and have a full body

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01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: of work before you declare for the draft. I think

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: he's got enough production to support the testing right. Yeah,

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01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: he does. And he kind of reminds me a lot

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01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: of Rashon Garry Hubucky talked about big time college recruiter

1361
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: recruit out of high school like for Sean Gary was

1362
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: and ultimately never really put the pass rush moves together

1363
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: at Georgia, just like Gary at Michigan. But the explosion

1364
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: enough production to warrant him being a first round pick.

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: If he can learn some pass rush moves at the

1366
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: next level, you could be talking about one of the

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: best young explosive players at the position. I'm just really

1368
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: interested to see the linebacker spot. Is you're an off

1369
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: ball linebacker or are you that quarterback spy edge defender

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: slot defender that's playing away from the football and not

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: close to the center, or you nose on the ball,

1372
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 1: middle linebacker type. That's where like where the delineation is

1373
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 1: at the linebacker spot today it is positionless. But I

1374
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: think when you're looking at linebacker, it's two different positions

1375
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,839
Speaker 1: in one right. And you have to know the prospect

1376
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: you're dealing with and what they can do and what

1377
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: they can't or what they can't do as well, maybe

1378
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: what their strengths are and try to play to those

1379
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: and then determine is that a fit for what we

1380
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 1: do defensively? That's the rub. And then with the receivers,

1381
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, we know the class isn't as strong as

1382
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: it's been in recent years, So what does that do

1383
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: to the class as a whole? Does it elevate the

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01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: top three or four guys and you're forced to draft

1385
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: them sooner if you want them, Like as we see

1386
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks all the time, their value gets pumped

1387
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: up because people need them and it's an important position. Well,

1388
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: receiver is becoming an important position. Two. And in a

1389
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: freak year where it's not as deep, are we going

1390
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: to see guys go off the board even earlier than anticipated,

1391
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: because there's only three or four that you're that are

1392
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: worth taken in round one. Yeah, maybe three. Yeah, it's

1393
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: hard to tell. I don't think we'll know until draft night.

1394
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: What I always look back to, though, and we have

1395
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: these consensus opinions. I can watch the film, you can

1396
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: watch the film. I always think back to twenty nineteen

1397
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: when Marquis Brown was picked, was the only receiver picked

1398
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: in the first round, kind of, you know, not a

1399
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: good receiver class. Then in round two there was DK

1400
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: at CAFEJ Brown and Deebo Samuel and I remember that

1401
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: draft class. That was the thought, it's really it's Marquise

1402
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: Brown and then you gotta wait till round two. Not

1403
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: as good. We look back on the twenty nineteen class,

1404
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,839
Speaker 1: anyone would pick Debo or AJ Brown and DK Metcalf

1405
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: ahead of Marquise Brown. So just because right now, even

1406
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying it that it's not that great of a class,

1407
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: you're saying it, we could see those second and third

1408
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: rounders ultimately become better players, maybe because they're not thrust

1409
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: into a hey, you're the wide receiver one instantly type

1410
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: of situation. They can grow into those roles like aj

1411
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: Brown did in Tennessee Deebo Samuel in San Francisco, Right,

1412
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: And so do they get inflated or does it slide?

1413
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: And then once it slides, where does the run start

1414
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: if it does slide, Because if nobody comes off the

1415
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: board in the first twenty picks at the receiver position,

1416
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: you're like, WHOA, all right, when's it going to start?

1417
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: And then once it starts, is there a run or

1418
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: is there still separation, you know, between one guy in

1419
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 1: the next, Like I think Smith and Jabba is the

1420
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: best chance to go in the top twenty, but he

1421
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: might not go until twenty to twenty five. And then

1422
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: if you're the Bills, are you're making a move like

1423
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: he did on Kyrielam Let's just get up a couple

1424
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: of spots. And especially because Jason had five catches for

1425
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: forty three yards last year, he's he's that's not helping.

1426
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: He's simultaneously like this proven commodity because at nineteen years

1427
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: old he led Ohio State in receptions and receiving yards

1428
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: on an offense with Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave. But

1429
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: then he gets injured in the first game and then

1430
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: never really plays again, doesn't even play in the College

1431
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: Football Playoffs semi final game against Georgia, where a lot

1432
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: of people have thought, Hey, he's gonna come back for

1433
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: this big game. So he's like an enigma and a

1434
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: proven commodity at the same time, which is interesting. Maybe

1435
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: he could ultimately be, you know, available in the late

1436
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: teens or the early twenties, and at that point, if

1437
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: he's one of the last first round grades that the

1438
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: Bills have. Even though I'm not a big advocate for

1439
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: trading up, I think you would almost have to do that. Yeah,

1440
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: let's hope for his sake, he's not Jackson Smith enigma,

1441
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: so hopefully he's got a better pro career than that.

1442
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: We will take a here when we come back. We're

1443
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: going to take a look at the tweet sheet to

1444
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: get your thoughts, more of your thoughts on what you

1445
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: think the impact will be on Buffalo's defense with Sean

1446
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: McDermott now set to be the defensive play caller this

1447
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: coming season. You can also jump on the phone lines

1448
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: and join us at eight O three five fifty one

1449
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty to get on board.

1450
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: Chris and Chris back in a second here on one

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01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalada Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Chris Trpasso

1453
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: with you here on a Monday and diving into plenty

1454
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: of different stuff concerning the Bills. We've already talked about

1455
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: how Josh is a guy that maybe Sean mcdermot's trying

1456
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: to help by taking over play calling duty so it's

1457
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: not all on him. Maybe he feels he can do

1458
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: a better job calling the plays himself. And then we

1459
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: were also discussing some other things going on to mar

1460
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: Hamlin's future and how coach is hoping for the best,

1461
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: but they're kind of secondary supporters. It's a Hamlin decision,

1462
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: not a Bill's decision, but they would welcome him back

1463
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: if he decides he wants to play. He even said, Chris,

1464
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: even if it's an eleventh hour decision. So that leads

1465
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: me to believe if all of the testing and all

1466
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: the hoops he has to jump through to determine whether

1467
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: or not he can continue his football career and doesn't

1468
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: happen until August, it sounds like they would entertain bringing

1469
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: him back even at that late stage, which is kind

1470
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: of interesting. I would imagine they're counting him on their

1471
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: books right now since he is under contract anyway, it's

1472
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: just a matter of him figuring it out. So I

1473
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: thought that was a nice way for them to put it,

1474
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, give him all the opportunity to get his

1475
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: ducks in a row, I guess. But we are talking

1476
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: about Sean McDermott callin defensive place for this team next

1477
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: season and the impact you feel it will have on

1478
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: the defense, And we haven't checked in on the tweet

1479
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: sheet yet, so we'll do that before we get back

1480
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: to the phones. Tweet sheet is always brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

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01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Jack leads us off and he says,

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01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: hopefully it's more aggressive with a more exotic selection of

1484
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: blitzes and zone drops. I hope they don't give eight

1485
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: to twelve yards of separation at the line of scrimmage.

1486
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: We've heard that before. That was the big Montra at

1487
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: the end of the season, I think when they felt

1488
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: that they played too conservatively against the Bengals. Yeah, and

1489
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: that was my I think gripe coming out of that

1490
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: game too. I think the weather had to play a factor.

1491
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: The point that I haven't seen brought up lately is

1492
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: that that was a very banged up Bills defense in

1493
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: that game, and maybe that lent them to say maybe

1494
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: they should have blitz a little bit more, or maybe

1495
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier was like, Hey, we don't really have all

1496
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: the horses. We don't have Micah Hyde, we have Jordan

1497
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: Phillips with a hurt shoulder, and Jordan Poyer is not healthy.

1498
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: No Von Miller, it really hamstrong what the Bills could

1499
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 1: do defensively in that game. In general, though the NFL

1500
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: is about seventy percent zone today, Sean McDermot is not

1501
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,839
Speaker 1: going to suddenly become a press man covers zero blitz

1502
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: heavy coordinator, and I don't think the Bills or fans

1503
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: should want him to be, because again, they've been so

1504
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: good defensively. Maybe not as good as they want in

1505
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but maybe with Sean McDermott again he's taking

1506
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: control of this, taking the reins and putting his own

1507
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: stamp on it, I think it will be a little

1508
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: bit more aggressive. That's the elephant in the room of

1509
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: if there is a tweak defensively, that's where the Bills

1510
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: need to go right. And I think one other thing

1511
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: you mentioned the weather, It kind of slipped my mind,

1512
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: but for some reason, at least it seemed to me

1513
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: and Eric would because I was in the booth with

1514
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: him for that game, and it just seemed like the

1515
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: Bills defenders were affected more by poor footing than Cincinnati's

1516
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: offensive players. And I understand they're backing up and Cincinnati

1517
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: players are going forward, but it looked like Bills defenders

1518
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: were most impacted by the compromise footing on the field

1519
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 1: with snow covering it, you know, like a dusting of snow,

1520
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: and I don't know what it was, but it just

1521
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: felt like the Bills weren't as sure footed as the

1522
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 1: Bengals players were in that game. Defensively, it was bizarre

1523
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: at times. Yeah, it was weird. And I think two

1524
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,919
Speaker 1: going into that game. Early in the week, that Cincinnati

1525
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: Bengals divisional game, it was all about how three of

1526
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals offensive alignment starters were not going to play,

1527
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: the fact that there was no day Kwon Jones late

1528
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: scratch in that game. He was kind of banged up

1529
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: in that Dolphins wildcard win, and like I mentioned earlier,

1530
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips had a hurt shoulder, was not was clearly

1531
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: not himself, and then of course no Von Miller kind

1532
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: of mitigated that perceived advantage that the Bills had at

1533
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: the beginning of the week. Joe Burrow was not really

1534
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: pressured a lot, and he does get the ball out,

1535
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: like you've mentioned very quickly. Anyway, I think that to

1536
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 1: not have a pass rush against the good quarterback in

1537
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: a playoff game is usually going to end badly for

1538
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: your defense. So I don't think it would have mattered

1539
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: if the Bills would have blitzed sixty percent of the time,

1540
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: whatever the case would have been, or played a lot

1541
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: more man coverage. I still think because of a limited

1542
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: pass rush in that game, and the weather probably factored in, um,

1543
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: it was gonna be tough sledding for the Bills against

1544
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow that day. Let's go back to the phones

1545
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: at eight oh three, five fifty one eighty eight, five

1546
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,839
Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty we go to DJ and Buffalo

1547
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 1: next and let me pull him up here. What do

1548
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: you got for his DJ? Hey, what's going on? Fellos?

1549
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: How you doing good? Good good? Yeah? Well you guys.

1550
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: Con took my point, but that's really what I was

1551
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: gonna go with it. I was gonna say that the

1552
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: footing was then seemed to be too good out there

1553
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: from what I saw, I was watching with my television,

1554
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: But from what I've seen, the guys didn't have all

1555
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: together with footing wise. I saw a lot of mids,

1556
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 1: like coverages blown and stuff like that from the DBS

1557
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: and whatnot and like and act to what's your point

1558
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: you're saying, as far as like our injuries too, it

1559
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: didn't help. We didn't have that pass rush. That pass

1560
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 1: rush was key against Joe Burrows. He's like in the

1561
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: fast out of the pocket. He throws it like a

1562
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: mad man. He reminds me like a young Tayton for real,

1563
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: for real, that's what he reminds me of a lot.

1564
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: He's quick on the trigger. And I'm honestly, I'm very

1565
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm very high on McDermott being our our coordinator. I

1566
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: see it's gonna be a good defensive you know what

1567
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean. Run and I think we're gonna really gonna

1568
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 1: have to work on our run stop And that's really

1569
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: what the kids too. Yeah, you let Joe Mason dance

1570
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: dance all on us during that a divisional round, so

1571
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: we can get can get can get some hands on

1572
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: the hands on defense with the running, I think we'll

1573
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: be good. I think it would be good to go.

1574
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: But I'm confident mcgamand I think we'll be fine. We're

1575
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: we're in good hands, you know. I mean, he's definitely

1576
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: approving DC in this NFL. All right, thanks, d J.

1577
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call. And yeah, well we mentioned it already.

1578
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: De Kwon Jones didn't play in that Cincinnati playoff game,

1579
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: and he was noticeably absent. I think nobody really that

1580
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: was kind of like a don't know what you got

1581
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: till it's gone kind of thing. We didn't realize how

1582
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: valuable well, I mean, I thought he was the most

1583
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: consistent defensive lineman on the team, and I think a

1584
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: lot of other people share that opinion. But you didn't

1585
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: really appreciate how much he brought to the defensive front,

1586
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: particularly against the run, until he wasn't in the game.

1587
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: And Joe Mixon's breaking off you know, ten and fifteen

1588
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: yard runs here, there and everywhere. That was tough. And

1589
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: I think two to kind of talk about slipping the weather,

1590
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: playing soft, and I certainly think the Bills could have

1591
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: played a little bit more aggressively, more in the face

1592
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: of those Bengals receivers. A key component to why we

1593
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: see so much zone today, and I think Sean mcdermot's

1594
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: philosophy the ben don't break. You allow those two and

1595
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: three and four yard passes. That's part of the NFL.

1596
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: There's so much quick passing. You have to tackle well,

1597
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 1: and in that game they did not tackle well. Maybe

1598
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: they were slipping a little bit more than usual. That's

1599
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: something that Sean McDermott every offseason, during free agency and

1600
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: the draft period, he always mentions getting sure tacklers at

1601
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: corner and at safety and at linebacker positions that you think, hey,

1602
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: they got to do other things. They got to cover,

1603
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: they got to be in the red position. Being able

1604
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: to tackle well, I think is a key component to

1605
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: this defense. Regardless of who's calling the plays, we're going

1606
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: to see mostly ben don't break with Sean McDermott. But

1607
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: that was something I think was clearly missing in that game.

1608
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: It was really a problem for the Bills for most

1609
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 1: of last season when they were having to plug in

1610
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: depth players that are not going to tackle as as

1611
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: as reliably as a Micah Hyde or a Matt Mulana

1612
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: or Tremaine Edmunds or Von Miller who were absent lest

1613
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: season for certain stretches. Connor on the tweet sheet says,

1614
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: I think this will have a great impact. He spoke

1615
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 1: earlier in the offseason that he wants the defense to

1616
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: have a new level of nasty. It should be him

1617
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: instead of relying on another another coach to implement what

1618
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: he wants. Gerald says, with his defensive mindset, it can

1619
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: only help the defense. He can only coach up the

1620
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: players so much, hopefully they put forth their maximum effort

1621
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: and more Ultimately, it comes down to the players and

1622
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: whether they execute the defense. He calls hard to argue,

1623
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: Tank says Sean McDermott calling plays is not a good idea.

1624
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: He says, a head coach is there to manage the game,

1625
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: provide oversight on all aspects of decisions by offense, defense,

1626
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 1: and special teams. I feel this will be too overwhelming

1627
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: to effectively be a head coach. And then finally JT says,

1628
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: I think our defense will be more hands on and

1629
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: hardcore with McDermott calling the plays. McDermott's going to put

1630
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: a big as on tacklingksom you just mentioned. We can't

1631
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: be missing tackles. If you get your hands on the

1632
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: ball carrier, he must go down on first contact. Also

1633
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: more press coverage. All right, So I think on the

1634
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: whole it's been positive and the only ones that have

1635
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: concerns are ones that are worried that it's too much

1636
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: for him to deal with on a game day. That's

1637
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: really yeah, kind of where it comes down. I think

1638
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: that's where it comes down to. We've talked about having

1639
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: that stability with your assistant coaching staff. That certainly matters,

1640
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: and for as much as we've talked about today, it's

1641
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: certainly big news. I'm the biggest believer in the NFL.

1642
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: It comes down to the players that if you have

1643
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: Matt Milano, a health featured Avious White, you bring in

1644
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: Taylor Rat, Micah Hide, Jordan Poyer back together. We got

1645
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: what one and a half games of those two at

1646
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,959
Speaker 1: the safety position together in Buffalo. Maybe a young talented

1647
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: linebacker in the draft fill some pieces on the defensive line.

1648
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: The defense is going to be good. It's not a

1649
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: case where a specific coach could drop this unit down

1650
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: to the worst in the lead league or one of

1651
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: the worst defenses could become the best in the league

1652
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: with coaching by the time you're in the NFL. I

1653
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: think it is way more about the players executing on

1654
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: game day than any schematic things that you need to do.

1655
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to cover and tack o

1656
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 1: l and rush the passer, and the Bills do have

1657
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: the horses to do those three things. Yeah, let's switch

1658
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: gears here because an Adam bomb was dropped on John

1659
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: Harbaugh at the owners meetings by Lamar Jackson, who revealed

1660
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter literally as John Harbaugh was sitting down with

1661
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: the media at the owners meetings that he had told

1662
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: the Ravens he wanted to be traded back on March second,

1663
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: he sent a letter out to his fans where he

1664
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: thanks him for all their love and support. But then

1665
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: he said, in regard to his future plans as of

1666
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 1: March second, I requested or trade from the Ravens organization,

1667
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 1: for which the Ravens has not been interested in meeting

1668
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: my value. That's not great English there, but and any

1669
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: and everyone that has met me or been around me,

1670
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I love the game of football and my dream is

1671
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: to help a team win a Super Bowl. You're all great,

1672
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: but I had to make a business decision that was

1673
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: best for my family and I and then he just

1674
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: bids a dude to basically the Baltimore flock, which is

1675
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: their fan base. This was completely premeditated time of this

1676
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: message to have John Harbaugh faced the music. Now, John

1677
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Harbaugh said, we expect to have him back as a

1678
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: Raven this season. What else is he gonna say? But

1679
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: this looks like a bridge burned. Yeah, it really does

1680
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: to me, and I'm sure anyone watching listening has heard

1681
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: every different take on Lamar Jackson. To me, what I've

1682
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: taken from it is, I think there are thirty other

1683
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: NFL teams, not including the Browns because they already have

1684
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 1: their big Deshaun Watson contract that set this new precedent

1685
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: to a certain degree, watching this very closely because I

1686
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: think people understand in general that the Watson thing was

1687
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: an anomaly. The Browns were told that they were out

1688
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: of the run for Watson last year. The next day

1689
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: he gets traded to Cleveland. They signed him to this

1690
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: and give up three first round picks, three first round picks,

1691
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars more fully guaranteed at signing than Aaron

1692
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Speaker 1: Rodgers who at the time was the highest paid quarterback

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01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The rest of those owners understand, Look,

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01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: that is an anomaly. It's an outlier, not going to

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01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: be followed by other teams. If it is then followed

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01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: by the Ravens. This organization, very steady, perennial playoff team,

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl under Steve Bishotti the owner. Suddenly,

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: if they give into Lamar Jackson and they give him

1699
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: close to a fully guaranteed deal that reaches the Watson level,

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01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: then I think it's really a precedent. And then Joe

1701
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: Burrow and Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence are like, hey,

1702
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: now two quarterbacks and one very stable organization has done that.

1703
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: That's why I think it is so messy. Jackson wants that.

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01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: I understand he's aiming for that Watson deal, but I

1705
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: really think the Ravens have a lot of pressure on

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01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: them from outside their ownership in the NFL because they

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01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily kind of double down on this

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01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed deal. That and now you're at a stage

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01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: here in free agency where a lot of people have

1710
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: spent their money. Yeah, who's going to be able to

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01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: take on a brand new quarterback contract this late in

1712
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, sure, you can move some money

1713
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: around and by the way, give up a couple of

1714
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: first round draft picks in the process for a guy

1715
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: that got hurt and miss five games each of the

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01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: last two years. I mean, it sounds crazy, but Lamar

1717
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: Jackson may have overplayed his hand and this might just

1718
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: be a desperate move. It's crazy. We got to take

1719
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: a break here, but Chris and I will wrap up

1720
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 1: our thoughts on where this Lamar Jackson thing goes next

1721
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: as it just it reached it reached critical mass at

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01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: about twelve noon today. Absolutely nuts. Chris and I back

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Speaker 1: to close things up here next on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. All right, So we were talking about Lamar

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01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: Jackson's adam bomb that he dropped on his head coach

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01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh with his tweet that he had asked for

1727
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: a trade earlier this month. Where does it go from

1728
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: here is the question. And if he holds fast to

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01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: wanting his entire contract guaranteed, I don't know if there's

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01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: gonna be a team that even wants him. And here's

1731
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 1: the thing. If he wants a trade, which he said

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01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: he requested March second, you mentioned it off air. What

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01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: team is going to trade multiple first round picks and

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01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: give him a fully guaranteed deal that he wants that

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01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: probably sniffs or maybe even exceeds the Deshaun Watson deal

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01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: that has two hundred thirty two hundred and forty million

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01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. I think he could get near the top

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01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 1: of the market. But to ask a team, oh, hey,

1739
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: can we have two first rounders in a second and

1740
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: then you need to sign Jackson for that long, it

1741
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: just seems very far fetched for a good, a very

1742
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: good young quarterback, but someone that's not going to be

1743
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: able to convince a team to do all of those

1744
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: things to acquire his services. I mean, it's hard enough

1745
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: to get a team to cough up two ones, and

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01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: then they still got to negotiate with lam Are after

1747
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: it went so poorly with the Ravens, who are known

1748
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: for getting veterans locked up more often than not, especially

1749
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: if their franchise caliber players. So where it goes, I

1750
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to end anytime soon. This has

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01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: got a recipe of an ugly finish written all over it.

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01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: The only thing that if Lamar is a man of

1753
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: precedent where people have said that he's not going to

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01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,839
Speaker 1: play like he would truly hold out and just not play.

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01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: That obviously makes the Ravens be like, who are we

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01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: going to play a quarterback? Like suddenly, we'll see you tomorrow, guys,