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Speaker 1: Oh, hello, hello donkeys. Let's see it is twelve thirty

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Speaker 1: two at night on the East Coast, technically August. First,

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Speaker 1: my name is Luke Thomas, and this is the Bellatour

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Speaker 1: two sixty three post five show right here on Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Of course, as I mentioned, my name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I am merely one half of your hosting duo. Brian

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Speaker 1: Campbell is fulfilling some CBS sports duties. He will join

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Speaker 1: us here on the show as soon as it is over. Okay,

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Speaker 1: couple of news and notes here. First things first, please

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Speaker 1: two sixty three, uh literally just finished moments ago. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to those results, obviously, I'm assuming if you're here,

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Speaker 1: this is just a disclaimer, you don't mind getting some results,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do those here, and we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: those now. Okay, So let's get to it. Belatour two

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Speaker 1: sixty three took place at the Forum in Inglewood, sort

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Speaker 1: of like Los Angeles, California, and uh yeah, aj McKee wins.

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Speaker 1: He defeats Patricio Freday the guillotine choke at one fifty

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Speaker 1: seven of the very first round. Boy, there is a

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Speaker 1: lot to say about this. I don't think anyone. We

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Speaker 1: did CBS Sports HQ earlier today and they asked me,

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Speaker 1: you know, so different ways about asking how good aj

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Speaker 1: McKee is, and I was like, well, here's the deal, folk.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't win tonight, meaning the title, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: win eventually. Like it just seems impossible that that's not

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Speaker 1: in his future. But you thought maybe this could have

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Speaker 1: been a bridge too far. Maybe, you know, listen, Patrucio

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Speaker 1: Frede is thirty four years old. But he went into

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Speaker 1: this champ as this fight excuse me as not merely

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Speaker 1: the double champ. But this was the other point, dude,

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Speaker 1: he ran through everyone that was in front of him

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Speaker 1: in that tournament. Now, yeah, you could say Patrick Carvolio

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Speaker 1: not necessarily the toughest test imaginable for him, but you

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Speaker 1: And then Emmanuel Sanchez tough as nails. They had a

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Speaker 1: tough fight their first go round. Pitbull demolished him. The

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Speaker 1: second time, he couldn't even get it out of the round,

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Speaker 1: this where they kind of felt each other out of

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Speaker 1: kickboxing range the whole time. But eventually McKee threw a

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Speaker 1: and it rocks him quite badly as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: back and look that Patricio drops. McKey thought he won.

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Speaker 1: He put his hands off like he won. But you

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Speaker 1: so what happens is eventually finds himself into the arms

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like the most technical pull because you

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Speaker 1: So it closed the show at one fifty seven, folks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be clear about something real quick.

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Speaker 1: That is as close to what Connor McGregor did to

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Speaker 1: McKee to do something that frankly not really hardly any

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Speaker 1: And then some of it resides in Belatore. They can

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Speaker 1: that end. But the thing that Bellatoor sort of benefits

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Speaker 1: and now if you are aj McKee into the eighteenth

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Speaker 1: a course of people denying him. He wasn't quite the

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Speaker 1: a good knight for Baltour, but for aj McKee. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to think of, like, there's a few of these

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Speaker 2: So I'm dressed for HQ here Luke, Okay, I see that.

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Speaker 2: comes running out. You know during the announcements that they

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Speaker 2: pushed through and break through the ban it was like

428
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Speaker 2: Aj McKee did that through your TV screen. It was

429
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Speaker 2: one of those moments where you didn't believe he was

430
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Speaker 2: gonna be able to do that with that level of ease. Now, look,

431
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's the greatest fighter of all time.

432
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's gonna go out there tomorrow and

433
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Speaker 2: do that same thing against you know, Volkanovski or whatever.

434
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it is what it is right now

435
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 2: within the storylines of this fight, which was the battle

436
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 2: for Bellatore history. But as we stand right now, aj

437
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: mcke's the number one pound for pump fighter in Belatour.

438
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: He's the featheret champion. I think he should fight next

439
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: to the lightweight champion. He's two wins away from owning

440
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: the record for most wins in Belatore history. He just

441
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: tied the record for most finishes in Bellatre history.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a.

443
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Speaker 2: Remarkable journey and when nobody does that to a fighter

444
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Speaker 2: of Pipule's caliber. He's only lost in you know, decisions

445
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: and a lot of these Luke, we talked about in

446
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Speaker 2: the resume review that Joe Warren fight the first pack current.

447
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: He's the fresher fighter coming on late in these and

448
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, he came up short, but he figured

449
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 2: out what he had to do. And it's not that

450
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm retiring Pitpule. It's not that he couldn't win a rematch.

451
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: It could look completely differently. But as we stand here,

452
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Speaker 2: right now, Lucas. That's what the instant analysis is supposed

453
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Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, it does feel a lot like Connor

454
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Speaker 2: McGregor and Josie Aldough, only it feels a little bit

455
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Speaker 2: more breakout surprising because I didn't think he was gonna

456
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Speaker 2: be able to do that. And what a night for Belator, Luke.

457
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Speaker 2: And this is not some viacom CBS take. This is

458
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Speaker 2: a promotion that needed this night to be big. It

459
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Speaker 2: got promoted as the biggest fight in Belatoi istory. But Luke,

460
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Speaker 2: had it been a five round slow decision, it would

461
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: have been what it been, you know what I mean,

462
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: we still could have had the same changeover in power.

463
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Speaker 2: But no, it was spectacular. And now you have not

464
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Speaker 2: just one but two. Really because a lot of for

465
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Speaker 2: a lot of folks who are casual fans, maybe they

466
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: don't even know Pippoll. Now you got two fighters that

467
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: you need to see all the time. Hey, Teddy KJB style,

468
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: pay that man his money. Let's if you want to

469
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: keep aj McKee and Bellator, pay that man his money

470
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: because this is a special individual, a special talent. And Luke,

471
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: you mix that with the Dagistan invasion, you mix that

472
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: with seeing coach Abib with the Bellator T shirt. It

473
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: just felt like this was a huge knight for Bellator.

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Speaker 2: The crowd seemed packed, people seemed happy and ready to

475
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Speaker 2: spread COVID to each other. It's just this was a

476
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: home run for Scott Kocher and company. So, you know,

477
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: we're not paid to say this, but I will say this,

478
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 2: congratulations Luke for this brand that it had such a

479
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: revolving identity. They did the grassroots thing and it worked,

480
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: and they hit a home run. And we have a viable, legitimate,

481
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: world class star and aj McKee, who I don't know, Luke,

482
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Speaker 2: he might be the best feather way in the world.

483
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Speaker 2: I don't know. But the fact that we're having that

484
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Speaker 2: conversation means bet one tonight. And that's a significant development considering, Yeah,

485
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: you went up against maybe the weakest UFC card of

486
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Speaker 2: the year, but you hit a home run in that slot,

487
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Speaker 2: in that placement.

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Speaker 3: Big night, big night in MMA, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for Bellator, you're right. You know again,

490
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: I saw I saw Rampage fight Joey Beltrand at the

491
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Speaker 1: now defunct Revel in Atlantic City, and that was under

492
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Speaker 1: the Bjorn revenue era, and it just felt you know

493
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: dead and those shows at Mohegan. Listen, We've been there

494
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: a million times. They're doing the best they can with

495
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Speaker 1: the situation that they have. In fact, it's pretty fortuitous

496
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: that Belatore and the show Time about Championship Boxing can

497
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: go there, no doubt about it, and they have let

498
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Speaker 1: fans back in there. But you know, taking it to

499
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Speaker 1: aj McKee by the way getting a hometown pop, I

500
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: didn't for some reason, I wasn't surprised by a BC

501
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: per se, but I guess I wasn't thinking about it.

502
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: And then he gets it, dude, Like everything lined up

503
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Speaker 1: aj mcke's way and he brought that to bear. But

504
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is great night for Belatore

505
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: in the way things worked out for them. And then

506
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: aj McKee, man, just you know, you talk about doing

507
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: everything right. I don't know what else this guy can

508
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: possibly do up to this point to have done it

509
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: any better. You know, runs to the title. They don't

510
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: look this good. They're usually choppy, they take a couple

511
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: of chances. This one was just I mean, a bullet

512
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Speaker 1: to the top.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's talk about keeping that same energy.

514
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: The reason why I predicted this fight would if he won,

515
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: AJ would probably be a decision is I don't think.

516
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: I didn't think he could take those chances against Pitbull.

517
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: I thought he would be a lot more passive. I

518
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: thought he'd be more willing to use his distance in

519
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: length advantage to kind of try to control the fight

520
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: from the outside. Expected a Pitbull's surge in certain moments,

521
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: but he kept that same energy of a freestyle, free

522
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: flowing any strike at any time, and it worked.

523
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Speaker 3: And it all.

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Speaker 2: Goes back to what we talked about in the build up,

525
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: with that poise. And yeah, he had a different childhood

526
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: than others, Luke. You mix the craziness of his childhood

527
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: in Long Beach, California and in Compton, mixed with the

528
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Speaker 2: fact that he had a legitim martial arts expert and

529
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: a father and grew up in gyms with Tito Ortiz

530
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: and Rampage Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a different upbringing.

532
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: Let's say, to desensitize you to the potential of that

533
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: this isn't a normal way to aim, you know, to

534
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: grow up and write yourself a check at age twelve

535
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: years old for a million dollars in all these these

536
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: great you know, mythical stories that we're telling. Yet in

537
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: the biggest fight of his life, he went out there

538
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: and acted like it was no big deal. Luke, there

539
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: is a special bit of poison him and U man

540
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: to see that come to fruition in such an overwhelmingly

541
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: powerful way, it's huge. Look, look, I don't want to

542
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: over fulate.

543
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: No hold on, we should we should talk about what

544
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: something real quickly. Before today I think you could argue,

545
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: and even then it wasn't complete. But before today you

546
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: could argue that sort of the biggest name or the

547
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: biggest development project that came out of Belator, maybe you

548
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: could have said Eddie, I think Michael Chandler obviously because

549
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 1: he was there a little bit longer, probably a bit

550
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: of a better name. Now there's just no question. You

551
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: want to ask, what is the best guy that bellats

552
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: or has produced, not signed and repurposed, not caught at

553
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: a later but they were still kind of viable or

554
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: something No, from the ground up. Who did you make?

555
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: And of course, to be clear, we're all saying aj

556
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: McKee made himself, But it's a partnership between the fighter

557
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: and the promotion. On the promotion side, when they asked

558
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: the question, who did you make. They're going to point

559
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: to this guy as the ultimate proving ground of what

560
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: they've accomplished.

561
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and like I said in the bill, you know,

562
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: this was what Aaron Pico was supposed to be. And

563
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: he still might be a champion and a great fighter,

564
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: but aj succeeded in a way that you know, had

565
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: to even exceed what we.

566
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Speaker 3: Thought Pico could do in the best case scenario.

567
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: I mean, this is perfect grassroots targeting a prospect, signing him,

568
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: building him up, and then giving him the chance to

569
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: show you how great he can be.

570
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: Look where I said I didn't.

571
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Speaker 2: Want to overfillay, iimy fish file. I mean from the

572
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Speaker 2: standpoint of Fillatio on what this means to Bellator. But

573
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: did you see that piece that bloody elbows John s

574
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: nashro ahead of there. I don't know, if you know,

575
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: this guy is very Look, I don't know, Maybe the

576
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: i R should go after him. He's probably got some

577
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: secrets he's trying to talk about everybody else is putting

578
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: down on their tax forms. But you know his piece,

579
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: Luke really focused on all the things you're talking about.

580
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: What's at stake in pipull m McKee. How about just

581
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Speaker 3: from the.

582
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Speaker 2: Standpoint that it could produce the number one fighter in

583
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: the world in that division and what that could mean

584
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: for Belatoor moving forward, Looke, what is this fight's long

585
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: term value from the standpoint of attracting free agents And

586
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: I don't mean past their prime free agents who are

587
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: upset with the UFC's pace scheme. I mean the potential

588
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: of legitimately, whether they're coming from the UFC or coming

589
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: from anywhere else in their prime, people who want to

590
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: come to Bellator and prove that they're the best in

591
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: the world in their weight class there because they believe

592
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: that there are enough fighters in those weight classes.

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Speaker 3: And right now, let's let's be honest.

594
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: Belatore's strong at featherweight, They're strong at light have youweight right?

595
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: They've always been pretty darnk go to bantamweight free agent wise,

596
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: you think this has long term legs potential in building

597
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: a guitar this bright.

598
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Speaker 1: I'll say this. Look, there's as you said it before,

599
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Speaker 1: I'll echo it at one more time. There is simply

600
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Speaker 1: no denying, no matter what your preferences as a fight fan,

601
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Speaker 1: that this was anything other than a great night for Beltore.

602
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: You can debate how great in what ways it was great,

603
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: but you know, you just look at what has happened

604
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: here and they're got to be pretty pleased with it. Still,

605
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Speaker 1: I don't see it as any and I don't know

606
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: that Nation necessarily argued this, But to answer your question

607
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Speaker 1: as I best understand it, I don't see this as

608
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Speaker 1: necessarily a tipping point or straw that breaks the Campbell's back. However,

609
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Speaker 1: in the spirit of what this means for Beltore as

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Speaker 1: it being a good night, certainly, events like this I

611
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Speaker 1: think do two things. One BC, when you get a

612
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Speaker 1: guy like McKee making a million dollars, we've seen some guys,

613
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Speaker 1: you know, make interesting choices about their career going from

614
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Speaker 1: UFC to PFL or just picking up PFL along the

615
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Speaker 1: way to other regionals, because it's kind of like a

616
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: quicker path to a million bucks if you can win. Obviously,

617
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: that's fraught with peril, but it's a it's a it's

618
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: a decent way to get someone to take the carrot

619
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Speaker 1: to go forward and work with your organization. So one

620
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: he gets a million bucks, no one lose sight of that.

621
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Speaker 1: I think that helps obviously, the way that this guy

622
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: shine like that, that's gonna make that division look a

623
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: whole lot better, and again as a general notion that

624
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Speaker 1: Belatore is a place that can put on events that

625
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: people care about and fights that matter. This had This

626
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: had a little bit of you know that that was

627
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: the Battle for San Jose, but this had a little

628
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: bit of kung Le versus Frank Shamrock feel to it,

629
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: and to a degree in some ways. But I guess

630
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Speaker 1: what I'm pointing out is sure it matters, it helps,

631
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: it's great, but more would need to happen. I think

632
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Speaker 1: what you would look at here is if I'm a

633
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: coach and I got really good guys in my gym,

634
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this with the Russians here in

635
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: just a second BC, and I would say, hmm, you

636
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: know what, this guy may want to go and do

637
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: UFC or Contender Series or whatever, but we can just

638
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: do this path with Belatore if we want, where we

639
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: can get the guidance we need at the various different

640
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: career stage. Is something I thought Paige van Zana could

641
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Speaker 1: have benefited from, even at a more developed stage. And

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Speaker 1: I think that could send a positive message about getting

643
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Speaker 1: guys a little bit earlier in the recruitment process.

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Speaker 3: That's fair Okay, I've got a couple questions for you, Luke,

645
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Speaker 3: Is that alright on the show?

646
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, Let's do it. Let's do it.

647
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

648
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: Look, would you agree with me that as dominant as

649
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: AJ was in this fight, we still didn't necessarily get

650
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: an answer to a ton of our questions because it

651
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: was a ton of fight that was slow early. So

652
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Speaker 2: do you think this says that AJ ceiling is even

653
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: bigger than we thought it could be? Or still unknown?

654
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: Based on the surprising nature of this outcome.

655
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: It could be a little bit of both. What's Connor

656
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: McGregor's to borrow the term I use all the time

657
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: upper bound limit well do? When he was shining at

658
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: his best, it seemed like in those moments on those nights,

659
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: he was unbeatable, it felt like, but then when he

660
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of came back to earth, you got a sense

661
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: that he's obviously a very good lightweight, but not the

662
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: best one on Earth. Now. I don't know where McKee stands.

663
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: I told the audience right before you came on BC.

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Speaker 1: When folks ask me how good is the he's on

665
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: par with their top five. I don't know which ones

666
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: he would beat, Maybe none of them, maybe all of them.

667
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think he's probably in that level.

668
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: Somewhere in that space is where I think he deserves

669
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Speaker 1: to go. And you can argue about where. I guess

670
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: I would just say BC I as I I don't know,

671
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't know what else to say.

672
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: What was the other part of your question?

673
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: Right, I've got three questions? That was the first number two, Luke.

674
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Speaker 2: If you're Scott Coker and company, and I think this

675
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: is worth debating, do you run this back at fifty

676
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: five for the belt?

677
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Right?

678
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: Is that the smart move based on I mean, if pit.

679
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: Bull wins, you could go to a trilogy and you

680
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: still have aj as the featherweight champion. But what if

681
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: you're basically taking two belts out of pit Bull's hands?

682
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: It does prop up McKee even more as the guy.

683
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: What do you do next with your Coker?

684
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Do you have to go right to making a twenty

685
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: six year old a champ champ? I don't think you do.

686
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he do.

687
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Because you want to just want to see him against

688
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: the other out of the bracket first.

689
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: I think that was the other part. You can se

690
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: him againt the other side of the bracket and like

691
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: the thing that sucks was he made. I said this

692
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: earlier Emmanuel Sanchez lost. I thought if he won, he

693
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: could have put himself in a spot. I will say

694
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Speaker 1: this though, dude Mad's burnell. I did not think he

695
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: won thirty twenty seven. I thought twenty nine to twenty

696
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: eight was defensible. Clearly he took the third round. The

697
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: second round was the swing round. I don't know how

698
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: the fuck they gave him the first, but whatever. Still,

699
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: he showed himself to be resilient under pressure. He has

700
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: good takedowns, he has good top control, He's got great submissions,

701
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: which means he probably had some decent submission defense. That

702
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: would be an interesting fight against McKie. The problem is

703
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: there just isn't an obvious number one guy at one

704
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: forty five you would point to. You just think, oh,

705
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: what's another big fight you could make. You could do

706
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: the Champ Champ fight up at one fifty five. Yeah,

707
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: but do you want to burn that thing right away?

708
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: That seems like a bit of a waist.

709
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: No fair point, A fair point, all right?

710
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: What if? What if?

711
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: Put? What if?

712
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: Patri this isn't my third one, but what if Patricio said, fit,

713
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: I'm going down to thirty five to become the first

714
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: three division champion, and and we did McKee versus Patriarchy

715
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: for the vacant title at lightweight.

716
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 3: See.

717
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: I could be a matchmaker, Luke. I'm you know, matchmaker, matchmaker,

718
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: make me a match That's what I do, Luke. My

719
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: third and final question to your bitch ass is five

720
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 2: and oh you can admit the resume review. Resume review

721
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: curses real because.

722
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: Didn't just make you to spit that sentence out.

723
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: Even worse, Pitbull didn't just lose by like decision, Luke,

724
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: he got put to sleep with his own finishing move. Bro,

725
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: resume review. You know what I'm saying, Bro, Who's next? Okay,

726
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: you want to put a Canadian under the spotlight? How

727
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: about I put you under?

728
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: How about put your career under the resume review?

729
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've already taken all the l's that are possible.

730
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: Don't worry, There's not many more you can hand out

731
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: that I haven't already seen. Listen, I'll say this, certainly,

732
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: the timing has been hilarious in the way that we

733
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: have picked these targets. But I think you know, in

734
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: a matter of seriousness. Obviously, I don't believe in curses

735
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: because they're not real. But it is funny that we

736
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: keep getting these guys because this is the truth. All

737
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: the fights we've picked, we kind of knew that the

738
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: fights were big, right, so we kind of knew, like,

739
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: we want to do this one, this one, this one

740
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: us see your belt or whatever it is. And BC

741
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: and I always go back and forth, do we want

742
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: to do this one or this one? And every time

743
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: if you notice, PC, I guess you could say Dustin

744
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: would be the different one. But in general, for all

745
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: the other ones, we kind of picked the one who

746
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: was either the way more senior of the two or

747
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: the one who was the much hotter, popular figure of

748
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: the two. We never went with like the sleepy not sleepy,

749
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: but we never went with like, you know, the crafty

750
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: underdog or the guy who was, you know, doing things

751
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: a little bit different. We always went with the established

752
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: power one way or the other, and it has blown up,

753
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: blown up in our faces. I'll say this, I don't

754
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: it was the right call to do the Patricio Pitbull

755
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: resume review his career, especially after taking the l he

756
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: did today, which was to your point, and I said

757
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: it too. No one beats him like that. There needed

758
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: to be a moment where you pause and you say, hey,

759
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: we should celebrate this guy career, but maybe we should

760
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: change the name. And like you know how they're those

761
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: memes of the three dudes carrying the coffin and there's

762
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: that techno song in the background. We should we should

763
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: make that like the official like meme and song of

764
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: resume review.

765
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Final question for me, I don't know if you can

766
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: see in that zoom window that producer Jay, by the way,

767
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: is producing this post show. Jay going with the with

768
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: the sleeveless T shirt, suns out, guns out into that luke.

769
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: He looks like an app. He looks like he's cooking

770
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: ketamine on his stove. I mean, could you be a one?

771
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: Hey, can you bring in that camera? Do you have

772
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: that ability here to bring in your own camera?

773
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: Wow?

774
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: Jay wearing like a nineteen eighties cut off. This is three.

775
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's go down this car just the main

776
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: card will quickly bec and see what you think and

777
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: then we'll call it a day here on this post

778
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: fight show. All right, so we talked about the main

779
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: event to death. We'll have more to say on Monday,

780
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: very quickly, Mad's Burnell and Manuel Sanchez. Are you with

781
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: me again? No problems with Burnell winning? It's fine, but

782
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: realm how.

783
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: No, no round one. He Here's what I'll tell you.

784
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: He did good in round one. He stood with Emmanuel

785
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: and decided to trade, attempt to trade evenly with him.

786
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: Only it wasn't even Emmanuel Sanchez won round one. So

787
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: I don't understand that.

788
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Luke.

789
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: I thought though, that he did control two and three.

790
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: Like It's one thing for Mad as an interview afterwards

791
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: to say, you all say I'm just a submission guy.

792
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: I can box two. Well, you won the fight because

793
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: you wrestled. That's what you did. I thought his control

794
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: and his activity from top position was was what should

795
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: have won him that fight. I do understand people on

796
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: Twitter coming at me saying you're overlooking Emmanuel Sanchez's offense

797
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: from the bottom, But you know, Burnell controlled the fight.

798
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: But the guy exactly what he wanted to do and

799
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: got the win and was you know, was brave in

800
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: spots when he needed to be. Luke, that's seven in

801
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: a row for him. This guy's streaking and peekings. It's

802
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: a balls he win against a very very tough out

803
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sanchez. So I had a two to one Burnell.

804
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: I would not have had a problem if Sanchez had

805
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: won that two to one as either, Luke, because it

806
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: uh the rounds that I did give Burnell again that

807
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: it was it was more on some of that that

808
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: cage control. Although I thought he was offensive from top,

809
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: but it wasn't overly dominant and there wasn't a ton

810
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: of damage either way in runs two or three. I

811
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: thought that, but you know, the judges gave it to him.

812
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: It was it was a good fight. It was a

813
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: pretty damn good fight. And that's the thing overall, Luke,

814
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: the card kind of delivered. I mean, you.

815
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: Mentioned the dude. The prelims were good too.

816
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say that you mentioned to

817
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: me over text. I wasn't even watching originally, and you

818
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: were like, these prelims are bonkers, and it's it's all

819
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: these guys from the Schmesh factory and they're just they're

820
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: knocking dudes cold left and right, and it was it

821
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: was pretty fun to watch.

822
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: Uh So, speaking of which usbin Nerrika made off beating

823
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: the fucking breaks off Manny Morrow. He was never in

824
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: trouble did it with t Ko at three thirty of

825
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: mark number or the first round BC that need to

826
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: the body was vicious, but he was doing, I mean

827
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: everything he really wanted to, taking his time. It seemed like, dude,

828
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: they got to get that guy a better opponent because

829
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: he looks like he is the genuine order.

830
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: I mean he almost kick Koto me.

831
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Speaker 2: You know, he just barely missed that in like the

832
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: opening five seconds of that fight. Now, look, he was

833
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: a minus fourteen hundred favorites. No one's acting here that

834
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: this is some type of breakthrough win. Although murrow Manny

835
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: Mrrod has looked pretty decent of late. But I mean,

836
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: look overall them Cough champion streaking, AMASOV champion streaking. I

837
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: know not all of these guys are from the same

838
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: or even from Dagastan for that standpoint, or even from

839
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: the same you know, Village is a kid has Habib

840
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: and all that. But still like going to Europe finding

841
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: untouched potential talent. Maga med Maga metof now usman Andr

842
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Speaker 2: Maga mel Like dude, Belitzer is reloading in a in

843
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: a in a strong way, and these guys are they're

844
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: they're here to fucking take over Luke.

845
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Speaker 1: And here's the key, dude. A lot of them are young,

846
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, we're talking about aj McKee. He's the

847
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: brightest star, certainly of the twenty somethings that biltz Or

848
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Speaker 1: has right now. I think that's probably a fair statement.

849
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: But a lot of these guys, they have twenty three,

850
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Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six, there's a shitload of him. He's

851
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: another one of them. Now, this one, I'm a little

852
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: bit impressed by Islam Mamadov taking a split decision over

853
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: Brent Premise. I did not mind that he won. You know,

854
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: Brent Premise's guard work. This is I don't know what

855
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: the solution is because Mamadov was inactive on top. I

856
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: am certainly not contesting that BC. But this is the

857
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: thing that kind of gets me. If guys fight for

858
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: three rounds, someone's on top, the person wants to affect

859
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: change by either going for Oma Plotza or go go plaza.

860
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: It ties up the arm that gets attacked, but ultimately

861
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: just results in the sort of cycle of itself being repeated. Granted,

862
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: nothing really happens meaningfully from the guy on top, but

863
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: nothing really happens meaningfully for the guy on bottom. I'm

864
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: not saying he's stalling, but it almost has that effect

865
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: on the on the fight. So I get the criticisms here,

866
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: but how did you see it?

867
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he wasn't offensive enough in top position.

868
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: I thought he put out a foundational effort that showed

869
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: you that with some tinkering, he could be really good.

870
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he's looked as good as all those

871
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: other names we just mentioned, but the wrestling control was

872
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: certainly there. We just need him to be more dominant

873
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: and aggressive on top. It's not dominant aggressive, which can

874
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 2: lead to dominance, because I thought the crowd rightfully bowed

875
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: that in the end, he controlled the dangerous guy. And

876
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: Brent primis a former champion and and did what he

877
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: had to do. But I think at this stage of

878
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: his career you want to do a little bit more

879
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: than doing what you had to do.

880
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: And he's not.

881
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: As you said to me over text when we were

882
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: talking about this guy, you know, he's not comparable yet

883
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: to the others, but but he's pretty good.

884
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 3: That is just the same.

885
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's now nineteen zero to one in his

886
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: last twenty fights, so this guy's pretty damn good.

887
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: Too.

888
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: Look, look, can I ask you he.

889
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: Doesn't he doesn't make a lot of mistakes, that's true,

890
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the overwhelming offense that the other

891
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: guy's doing. I think that difference should be noted.

892
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: Uh, guys, he's something about coach Abib here who was

893
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: four and oh four and oh tucking the coach too

894
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: man And you know Javir Mendez also of Aka in

895
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: the corner as well. So let's give full respect. But

896
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 2: you saw him in the Bellott t shirt. How much

897
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: do you think that was a calculated effort by Belatore

898
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: brass And how much do you think our buddy Uncle

899
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Scott was in the back room going because look, you're

900
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: basically taking there the retired one of the greatest UFC

901
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: fighters of all time in a legitimate pay per view

902
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: draw like you know last year, and you put him

903
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: on your screen in the clothing. And then Belatoor tweeted out,

904
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: by the way, a picture of coach of Bibe and

905
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: the Belatore shirt with a link directly.

906
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: Attached of where to buy that shirt.

907
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: So there seemed to be some premeditation here, and Habib

908
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: was down for it. You had to feel like Uncle

909
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: Scott enjoyed that.

910
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: Luke probably probably I remember when Jake Shields had signed

911
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: with UFC for like his first after like the first

912
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: day after he signed, he sat cage side with Dana

913
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: at either some ufcving or maybe even a Strike Force event,

914
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: and they both kind of waved at the camera like

915
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: almost like an f you to Scott. You know. So,

916
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if the moments like that or

917
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: they're certainly not accidental, but how much he's exactly.

918
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: And it means nothing to him at the end of

919
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: the day, like he's not he's he's not coming back

920
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: to a j McKee. Look, it reads nothing at the

921
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: end of the day, right, but you know.

922
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: All right? And then lastly for the main card, Guchi

923
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: Yamauchi defeating Chris Gonzalez. Do he look great? This guy

924
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: on the on on Twitter who has been a great scout,

925
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: he goes with the name of Smoogie. Uh. He pointed

926
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: out a while ago that Yamauchi is you know again,

927
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: comparisons are never in total, but is something like Bellator's

928
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Charles Lavera because you take it to the ground. He's

929
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: got phenomenal, phenomenal guard work and grappling he's very, very

930
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: tough to beat there and now you even saw it

931
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: with the hands. Dude. Chris Gonzalez is a guy who

932
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: is very good athlete Team Alpha Male, a great wrestler.

933
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: But you know, I watched the footage we see on

934
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: his previous fights, and what I noticed was he can

935
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: stand up, and when he does stand up, it does

936
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: look pretty good. But he usually shoots after about a

937
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: minute or two, and so the stand up is pretty

938
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: limited to what kind of risk he exposes himself to. Obviously,

939
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna feel a lot safer when he's commanding the

940
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: wrestling positions, but you can't really shoot on Yamauchi. This

941
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: to me, was a mistake in taking a fight against

942
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: the guy Yamauchi has like what thirty plus fights? This

943
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: was like I think Gonzalez has six or seven. He

944
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: should not have taken on a challenge this difficult. I

945
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: know he didn't look that great tonight. I don't think

946
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: it's representative of his upside, but this one got out

947
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: of hand on him fast and credits Yamauchi. Great boxing

948
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: by him.

949
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great performance. And Yamauchi is a

950
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: guy who I feel like it's been around forever. Then

951
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: you look him up, Luke, he's like only twenty eight

952
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: years old, and yeah there's like, you know, losses to

953
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: Michael Chandler or Bubba Jenkins, but you know he's been

954
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: able to rebound from losses and put together three four

955
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: fight win streaks. So this was a very strong win,

956
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: especially to see him that offensive and go after it

957
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: and put him away. And you can see, you know,

958
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: the giddiness and happiness in the interviews afterwards. Although Big

959
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: John was really cozy in this Delta variant season. Big

960
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 2: John's putting arms around guys like Calm, here, come Hog

961
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: the big pop up bear.

962
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: For the interview.

963
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean, can we get one of those long sticks

964
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: maybe during this you know, it was funny on the broadcast,

965
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: look got not too funny because don't want to see

966
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: aybody die. But when Moro's like, you know, we're following

967
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: kelll California COVID rules.

968
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: And then behind them.

969
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: There's all these people in the front row with like

970
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: backwards hats and they're doing crotch chops and stuff and

971
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: they're rubbing up against each other without masks, and you know.

972
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: You know, look, there's so much drama on the LBC.

973
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, all right, So, yeah, she

974
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: gets a great win. And do these prelims. You can

975
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: go to all of them. But though two that stood

976
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: out to me. One Gadji Rabaddanov Rabadanov defeating Daniel Carry.

977
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: This guy looked like an absolute dynamo. He was so

978
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: careful about how he measured range. He got it super quickly.

979
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: You could see him touching him up and getting closer

980
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: and closer and found the left hook off the kick

981
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: and just one hit or quitted him. And then the

982
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: little brother of Zu beat Maga met Chheripov. How about

983
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: Casan Maga met Scheripov BC getting a TKO again, complete

984
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: control the entire time four twenty one.

985
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, good chance, you too, Good chance you'll be seeing

986
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: these Dagistanis.

987
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: And have you seen the shit on Monday's Morning Combat?

988
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: This was some devastating shit. Look I liked it a lot.

989
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: Just to circle back to the man event before he

990
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: called a day here on the show. See, the thing

991
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: I would say, is that sit up to me. You know,

992
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: I do think the range did play a role. And

993
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: when we say the range, I mean the difference in

994
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: their height and reach both guys were playing in kickboxing

995
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: range because I thought, actually the game plan of McKee

996
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: was really smart. He kind of stood his ground and

997
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: made Patricio come to him, and Patricia was kind of

998
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: wary about getting in that space, so it kept him

999
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: pretty far apart. And when you've got good setups and

1000
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: you're fast with your delivery, with the kicks and the

1001
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: way that AJ is DoD it's set up a brilliant

1002
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: beginning to the end. And do we all know once

1003
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: he gets AJ gets you hurt or you stumble or whatever,

1004
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: he finds the finish or some kind of you know,

1005
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: devastating follow up pretty quickly. Yeah.

1006
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 3: I mean that's where I said something.

1007
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: It's like, it's not the first time Pitple had fought

1008
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: a guy, you know, this much bigger than him, but

1009
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: it's the first time he thought a guy this much

1010
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: bigger than him, who's dynamic and athletic enough and risky

1011
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: enough to go after this. I think Pitple thought in

1012
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: his heart of hearts, Luke, and obviously this is a

1013
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 2: humbling loss for him that he was gonna see AJ

1014
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: try some of that stuff. But let's give Piple so

1015
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: much great his timing, his I mean his countershots are

1016
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: just deadly. I think he just thought he was gonna

1017
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: be able to, you know, punch the pinata and just

1018
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: counter perfectly.

1019
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: I mean, that kick just surprised him.

1020
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: And that's where the four inches of high and eight

1021
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: inches of reach does come into play. And Luke, you know,

1022
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: we certainly need to see so much more on aj.

1023
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: We need to see him in a dogfight, We need

1024
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: to see him in a lot of different scenarios to.

1025
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: Really know how great he really is.

1026
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: But to be able to have this ability to do

1027
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: that to somebody like Pitbull, it's it's wild, man, it

1028
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: is wild. It's like I can't really pick apart too

1029
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: much of the two minutes we saw of Pitbull.

1030
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: He just kind of got caught and it is what

1031
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: it is.

1032
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: But given what we saw, I wonder if it was inevitable.

1033
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: I wonder if this just ends up being the kind

1034
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: of matchup where this guy's just two dynamic, athletic and

1035
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: long and all of those things. And it does expose

1036
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: the height differential, because I was wondering in that first minute,

1037
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: you know, as they started to circle each other and

1038
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: Pipple's cocking that right hand and he's sort of being

1039
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: poison patient. How is he gonna find that opening? You know?

1040
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: Is he gonna duck underneath the jab and put himself

1041
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: into range? Is he gonna really wait for that explosive

1042
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: misstrike to land it. I never really got to find

1043
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: that out, Luke. Yeah, And that's what happens. I mean,

1044
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm talking about. Keeping that same energy.

1045
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: AJ did that same type of thing, you know, against

1046
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: Georgie kar Kany and knocked him out in eight seconds.

1047
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: He brought the same energy in there against Pippull and

1048
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: he finished him in two minutes. I mean, it's wild,

1049
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: It's really well, Hey, Luke, I just got a text

1050
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: from Otel Burbridge, of course, the great Basis formerly of

1051
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: the Almond Brothers of Debt and Company, who returned to

1052
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: active duty on tour in August, and you know, he says,

1053
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: the curse is real. Luke Okay, he says, I can't

1054
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: wait to see what Luke says about the evidence when

1055
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: it gets to like twenty in a row. But fighters

1056
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: are gonna start begging you guys to stop doing that.

1057
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 2: You know it's coming, Luke, Okay, curse is real. O'tel knows.

1058
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: Otel on the base knows, Luke, the curse is real.

1059
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do, all right?

1060
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: When these twenty four people are allowed to believe in

1061
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: the tooth fairy as well? But you know, those of

1062
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: us who are adults and who understand math, we don't

1063
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: do that, all right, So BC, let's set this up.

1064
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: We don't even have there's no point in getting to

1065
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: it today. There was a UFC event. We'll talk about

1066
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: it on Monday, right, We're gonna get to a lot

1067
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: more into the details. No, you're not gonna watch it.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna watch the UFC card.

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Speaker 3: No, I will Jay sense.

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Speaker 2: By the way, apparently I did Jay wrong.

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Speaker 3: I did Jay a little dirty.

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Speaker 2: I showed oh you Riah Hall picture of Jay that

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Speaker 2: didn't accurately depict what he looked like when he was

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Speaker 2: a master of all things mixed martial arts himself, and

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Speaker 2: I incorrectly reported, Luke that Jay didn't knock Rriyah off

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Speaker 2: his feet. He did hit him hard with a spinning

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Speaker 2: back kick. But what I didn't know about the story

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Speaker 2: was that Oryah put it on Jay afterwards as like

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Speaker 2: you know, oh, you think you think you learned a

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Speaker 2: few things. You know what I'm saying Luke, either way,

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Speaker 2: did you see his face that look like Hamburger hill afterwards?

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Speaker 3: That was tough to see, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it didn't look great all right, So we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that on Monday and everything else, including some

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Speaker 1: boxing results and whatnot. As always, thumbs up on the video.

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Speaker 1: Hit subscribe if you haven't already, and uh yeah, Bellatour

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Speaker 1: two sixty three in the books, A night that Bellatore needed,

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Speaker 1: a night that Bellator got, and one of the most

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Speaker 1: historic nights for prospect, turn contender, turn champion developments you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see anytime soon. That is the King of Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone involved on the Mulka side,

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Speaker 1: the showtime side, the CBS Sports side. We're back Monday,

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Speaker 1: eleven am in the East. Email us Morning Combat at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com if you want to, and uh, it's late,

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Speaker 1: so get some sleep. We'll see you on about forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours or so. Peace