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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily Abodi here.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to Hurdle a while this focused podcast

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Speaker 3: where I talk to inspirational people about everything from their

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Speaker 3: highest tides and toughest moments to essential tips on how

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Speaker 3: to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life. We all

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Speaker 3: go through our fair share of hurdles. My goal through

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Speaker 3: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours

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Speaker 3: and move with intention so that you can stride towards

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Speaker 3: your own big potential and of course have some fun

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Speaker 3: along the way. For today's conversation, episode three sixty six,

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Speaker 3: I'm chatting with Carissa Moore. She's an Olympic gold medalist,

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Speaker 3: the first time she's been on the show with her daughter.

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Speaker 3: I say that very intentionally because I am not even exaggerating.

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Speaker 3: She was baby wearing her daughter for this entire conversation

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Speaker 3: and Olenna did not make a peep, but truly remarkable

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Speaker 3: and also, let's go mom trying to get it all

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Speaker 3: She talks to me about what life's been like since

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Speaker 3: and what she's most looking forward to now that Olena

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Speaker 3: We chat about an upcoming retreat she's doing without rigor.

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Speaker 3: It's a mother a daughter surfing retreat. If this is

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Speaker 3: something that excites you. You can find more info about

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Speaker 3: that in the show notes. Make sure you're following along

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Speaker 3: over on Instagram. It's at Hurdle Podcast. I'm over at

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Speaker 3: Emiliabadi and the weekly Hurdle Substack newsletter comes out every

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Speaker 3: to subscribe is in the show notes. With that, let's

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Speaker 2: Today. I am sitting down with Charissa Moore.

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Speaker 3: She's a two time Olympian Olympic gold medalist, a five

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Speaker 2: How are you doing today, Chrissa, Welcome to Hurdle.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm so good. I'm so happy to have you back

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Speaker 3: And I was supposed to tell you immediately from the

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that is perfect. You said it perfectly.

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Speaker 3: That's such a helpful tidbit and something that so many

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time. So I started back in

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Speaker 1: really morphed since then, but in the beginning, it was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I was I was in a really low, low, low

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I need to give back. I

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Speaker 1: need to find that way to connect to my community.

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Speaker 1: And so I started the foundation and I saw that

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Speaker 1: there was a whole for opportunity for young girls and surfing,

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Speaker 1: and so I was like, hey, like, I just want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, share any tools, any resources from my experiences

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Speaker 1: with these girls to help them on their journey. And

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Speaker 1: it was a two day, two night camp on the

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Speaker 1: North Shore with twenty four girls. I planned the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: organized all the little details. It was so like grassroots,

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Speaker 1: but it was so special, and I just I just

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Speaker 1: remembered the joy, how stoked they were, how wide eyed

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Speaker 1: and ready they were to just soak in anything that

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Speaker 1: I could share. And they left with friendships and they

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Speaker 1: took home something and like for me, that was just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to do more of this. That really fed

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Speaker 1: my fed my soul. And I know that when I

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Speaker 1: was a little girl, getting to spend time anytime with

502
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Speaker 1: my heroes was so inspiring, you know. It was getting

503
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Speaker 1: to spend time with Rachelle Ballard or Melanie Bartel's or

504
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Speaker 1: Kyla Kenneley. The are pro surfers from my home talent.

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Speaker 1: Seeing them in the water, it was like, oh my gosh,

506
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: there's my dream that it's tangible. You know, these women

507
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: are on the world stage, chasing waves and doing what

508
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Speaker 1: they love and they're right there, you know. So I

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Speaker 1: really wanted to create, you know, that space that's intimate

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Speaker 1: that they could get to know me, that they could

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Speaker 1: ask the questions. And it's been a beautiful, beautiful journey

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Speaker 1: with Marloha. I'm really excited to see how much it's

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Speaker 1: blossomed and grown and I think right now, you know,

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Speaker 1: surfing is definitely a big part of our events and programs,

515
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Speaker 1: but we use it more as a tool to encourage

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Speaker 1: girls to step outside their comfort zones. We really try

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Speaker 1: to focus on mental health and wellness and sharing those

518
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Speaker 1: tools and resources that I have learned along my journey

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Speaker 1: to help them create a life of positivity and purpose.

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Speaker 3: I love to hear that, and it's very clear through

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Speaker 3: your passion for this that it's so important to you

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Speaker 3: to provide these resources.

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Speaker 2: Is this because.

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Speaker 3: Large in part, you didn't necessarily feel like you had

525
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Speaker 3: resources like this for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Growing up, I just felt like there were Like I've mentioned,

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Speaker 1: it's just like it can feel really overwhelming growing up

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Speaker 1: in this world, and especially as a young girl, Like

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Speaker 1: I think I always found myself comparing myself or chasing

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Speaker 1: outside validation or you know, I struggled with self worth,

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Speaker 1: with body image, and I was like, well, I just

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Speaker 1: want these Every human being on this planet is an

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Speaker 1: absolute miracle, you know, and I just want to help

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Speaker 1: them reconnect with themselves and know that they are put

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Speaker 1: here for a beautiful reason, they are unique, and to

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Speaker 1: embrace their imperfections. To also lift others up, that this

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Speaker 1: doesn't need to be a constant competition with the ones,

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Speaker 1: you know, our peers, like let's lift each other up.

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Speaker 1: We're stronger together. And to go out there and like

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Speaker 1: go for it. Like I think that that was a

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Speaker 1: big thing for me, And sometimes I see in young

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Speaker 1: girls is like when you're out there testing the waters

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Speaker 1: and going after it and being fearless, like that super

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Speaker 1: empowering gave me a lot of gave me a lot

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Speaker 1: of confidence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's really special that you also

548
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Speaker 3: leaned into that competitive mindset when there was so much

549
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Speaker 3: unknown by competing at the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: When you were there, did you feel like.

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Speaker 3: The unknown made the competition more difficult or did you

552
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Speaker 3: feel like it added something special, a little bit of

553
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Speaker 3: a special sauce to what you were doing in the water.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's something that I still really struggle with because

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Speaker 1: I feel like I am a bit of a control freak.

556
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Like I try my best to control everything and then

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Speaker 1: I'm really working on letting go. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that is surfing, Like there's so much out of

559
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Speaker 1: your control. There's so many variables and just learning how

560
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Speaker 1: to like give yourself the best chance of success, but

561
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: learning how to let go and trust the universe and

562
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Speaker 1: trust that the wave is going to come, and if

563
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Speaker 1: it doesn't, then you take what you can, process it

564
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Speaker 1: and move forward for the next time. You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, How would you say that your relationship with surfing

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Speaker 3: has evolved since you've stepped back from the competitive tour.

567
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Speaker 3: Are you finding new ways to enjoy the sport or

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Speaker 3: is it really just you trying to get back into

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Speaker 3: the sport period.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've loved being a fan, like I

571
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Speaker 1: one of my really good friends. Is I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: very good friends with a lot of the girls on tour,

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Speaker 1: but there's a few of them that are extra special

574
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Speaker 1: to me, so I follow the tour pretty religiously and

575
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Speaker 1: cheer them on. It's been cool to take a step

576
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Speaker 1: back and just I think it's been really healthy for me,

577
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: because when you're in something sometimes it's hard to see, hey, wait,

578
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Speaker 1: there's other stuff out there, and like, you'll be okay

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Speaker 1: without this. It's been really good for me, I think,

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Speaker 1: because I have never known anything else, you know, and

581
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Speaker 1: to just take a little bit of time away to

582
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Speaker 1: be at home, to immerse myself in a home routine

583
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Speaker 1: and be a family and friends. I have the luxury

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Speaker 1: to like stay up late or go grab a coffee

585
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Speaker 1: on a whim, or sit at the beach with my

586
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Speaker 1: daughter and play in the sand and be able to

587
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Speaker 1: appreciate surfing and competitive surfing as a dream. But know

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Speaker 1: that like I'll be okay, like if I go back

589
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Speaker 1: or if I don't go back. Life is wonderful. There's

590
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: so much to be grateful for, and it's also there's

591
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: so many different chapters in our lives right, Like there's

592
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: so many different versions of us, which is really cool

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Speaker 1: and to just like embrace it. It's hard, though, Like

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Speaker 1: we've were just talking about that unknown, that uncertainty is

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Speaker 1: really scary, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, it's definitely scary, and to your point of

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Speaker 3: like when you're in it, I can really relate. Like

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Speaker 3: last weekend, I'm I'm a runner and I'm training for

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Speaker 3: a marathon, and I am always training for a marathon.

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Speaker 3: There's always something else on the docket, right, and so

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Speaker 3: that means that a lot of Saturdays are long runs

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Speaker 3: for me. And last Saturday, I did my long run

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Speaker 3: the day before and I woke up and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I now have an entire day that like usually I'm

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Speaker 3: doing something else and wow, like life could be really

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Speaker 3: good if I didn't do this other thing.

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Speaker 2: But I'm so in the mix, Like I'm so this.

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Speaker 3: Is what I do, this is how I identify, this is

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Speaker 3: what happens every single Saturday. And you have to get

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Speaker 3: outside of your bubble, outside of your box to realize like, hey,

611
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Speaker 3: like there are benefits to not only mixing up your routine,

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Speaker 3: but being like nope, like life could be fine another way.

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Speaker 1: No, totally, and like that doesn't take anything away from

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Speaker 1: like how important and how awesome it is to be

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Speaker 1: passionate about a dream. Like I encourage everybody to totally

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Speaker 1: commit to something and go all in when you love something,

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Speaker 1: you know, but it's also great to keep an open

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Speaker 1: mind to falling in love with something else, to have

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Speaker 1: that learning mindset that when you step away from something

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Speaker 1: you've gotten really good at and really comfortable with that,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be on the ground again, like working

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Speaker 1: yourself back up and like being okay with that, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's so fun is to know, like, hey, like

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Speaker 1: I was this, I'm a student again.

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Speaker 3: Being a student again exactly. I know that you find

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Speaker 3: the simple joys of going to a coffee spot near

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Speaker 3: you and getting a muffin there. What are some of

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Speaker 3: the other simple joys that you've rediscovered now that you've

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Speaker 3: gotten a little bit of your time back.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I love walking the dogs with my husband.

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Speaker 1: I love scrapbooking. I love a nap when Olena lets me.

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Speaker 1: I love waking her up in the morning and seeing

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Speaker 1: her smile and taking her in our room and rolling

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Speaker 1: around with her on the bed. It's so silly, but

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Speaker 1: I love like organizing my house and putting the laundry away,

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Speaker 1: and like I don't know, just being home and having

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Speaker 1: the luxury of not having a set schedule all the

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Speaker 1: time or the pressure to be somewhere. Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 1: really nice.

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Speaker 3: I was just talking with a girlfriend the other day

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Speaker 3: about how we need more hobbies.

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Speaker 2: Adults need more hobbies.

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Speaker 3: Like it doesn't need to be anything earth shattering, but

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Speaker 3: maybe it's pottery, or maybe it's reading, or maybe it's crocheting,

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Speaker 3: or maybe it's I don't know, walking and listening to

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Speaker 3: a podcast. Like trying more things is something that I

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Speaker 3: am dialed in on doing for the rest of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I love that. And then I don't know where I

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Speaker 1: came upon this, but the whole idea of like let

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Speaker 1: yourself get bored, because that's when the cool stuff happens.

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Speaker 1: That's when your wheels start turning. That's when you figure

653
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: stuff out. Like don't feel like, oh, like I am

654
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: such a doer. I feel like I always need to

655
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: be like getting something done or checking off something on

656
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: my list. But it's okay to just like sit still

657
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: for a second and like listen to the valley or

658
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: like the wind blow through the trees and the birds

659
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: and see what comes up.

660
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure that doing that easier.

661
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: Said than done for someone who is a self proclaimed

662
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: perfectionist likes to control everything, super competitive.

663
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Seriously, it's it's one of the harder things I have

664
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: had to do is learn how to just you have

665
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: no idea. I tried so hard to get her to

666
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: come out when it was time. I was like walking

667
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: the curbs, I was doing squats, I was doing everything,

668
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: and everyone like, just take a nap, just lie down,

669
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: let her come when she's ready, And I'm like, no.

670
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: I am so uncomfortable. Napping is not enjoyable for me.

671
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: I know, but it's funny for me. That is a

672
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: telling sign if I am in a great headspace going

673
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: in a competition. If I can nap, I know that

674
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm relaxed. I'm in a good headspace. So that's always like, okay,

675
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: if I can't nap, like, I got to call it

676
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: my sports sic and work this through.

677
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: How was your delivery? How did that go for you?

678
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Who that was wild? I'm not gonna lie. I You know,

679
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: so many people tell you what it's like, what birth

680
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: is like. They tell you it's painful, but I was like,

681
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure it's painful. But I'm an athlete

682
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: at GADSIS. I've been trained them for this. I've been

683
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: taken all the classes and like, but nothing can can

684
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: prepare you for it, because you really do have to

685
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: be open and adaptable to whatever comes your way. I had,

686
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: you know, we were envisioning it happening one way. We

687
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: ended up in the hospital and we're there for three

688
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: days and had to get induced. And you know, I'm

689
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: super grateful both her and I were super healthy. But

690
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: it was long, it was hard, and it was Yeah,

691
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: I definitely want more kids.

692
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: But you're like, we can take a beat before we

693
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: do this thing.

694
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well right now, I know that aside from getting

695
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: back into the water as time allows, you have a

696
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: lot of other exciting stuff on your plate. Talk to

697
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: me about what you're doing with your retreat series.

698
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: Well, so with my foundation Marloha, we have a really

699
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: really fun second half of this year planned. We have

700
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: several events planned on the Outer Islands. We have a

701
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: Global Exchange happening with Japan in August. But the one

702
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: that is coming up that I'm really really excited about

703
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: is I'm hosting with the Outrigger and Khanapoli in Maui.

704
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: For mothers and daughters. And this one really is special

705
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: because I am a new mom and I'm just thinking

706
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: about ways that I want to nurture our connection and

707
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: our relationship. And so the theme of this event is

708
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: focusing on self worth, something that I've kind of you know,

709
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: struggled with and is something that I have to continue

710
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: to work on every day. And obviously mothers for us

711
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: are they we really there are role models. So I

712
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: think it's a great day for daughters to appreciate their

713
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: mothers and for mothers to share their stories. And it's

714
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: a time for connection, for softness, for strength, for coming

715
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: together and you know, moving forward together. So I really

716
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm really really excited.

717
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: When is that retreat.

718
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: August thirty and thirty first?

719
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so soon.

720
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: Yes, So if there are any mothers and daughters out

721
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: there that want to sign up, you can go to

722
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: morloha dot com and you just have to submit a

723
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: short video answer to questions if you were a mother

724
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: daughter team, what would your motto be and why? And

725
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: then what is your favorite thing that you guys do together?

726
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, how cute. Now I'll link that in

727
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: the show notes as well. I know that your daughter

728
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: can't be a vocal participant in this question. But what

729
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 3: would you say that your motto would be?

730
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: You know, I think it would be anything as possible.

731
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: I actually recently got a Hawaiian bracelet from Kiye Hawaii

732
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: and it has her name on it, and inside I

733
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: put anything as possible, love mom and Dad, and I

734
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: just want her to always feel so loved that no

735
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: matter what she does, she feels like she can do it.

736
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't work out, we will be there.

737
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: We will be there, They'll love her no matter what.

738
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: So that would definitely be our motto.

739
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: Why is this chapter of motherhood so important to you?

740
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: Carisa?

741
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: I really feel like motherhood and having a family that's

742
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: our legacy, right, Like all the other stuff is wonderful.

743
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: But when I'm old and gray and I'm looking back

744
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: at my life, like that's you know, all the other

745
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: stuff is going to fade. Someone's going to throw my

746
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: world title trophy in the dump one day, you know,

747
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: like just being honest, it's going to happen. I hope

748
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: she keeps a gold medal, but those are just things.

749
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: Those are material things. But the way you touch people,

750
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: the way that you make people feel those memories, those stories,

751
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: that's what's going to live on. How you affect someone's life,

752
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: like the things that you take from a relationship, the

753
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: love that you share, like, those are the things that

754
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: are going to last forever, even when we're long gone.

755
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: So how I raise my daughter and hopefully to be

756
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: a good human being that contributes to society and shares

757
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: light wherever she goes, that's I think our purpose. That's hope.

758
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: I think that's how I see my purpose, you know,

759
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: And that's why it's so important to me.

760
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: I know that you've been really outspoken about how your

761
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: father has framed the way that you've come up within sports,

762
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: a huge rule model for you within surfing. If you

763
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: feel comfortable, I'd love to hear a little bit about

764
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: the relationship that you had with your mom.

765
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: My relationship with my mom when we were younger was

766
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: a little bit strained. I think it definitely got to

767
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: a point where we weren't seeing eye to die, especially

768
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: through like the teenage years when I started wanting to

769
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: pursue professional surfing, and I didn't really understand why she

770
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: didn't back me one hundred percent, or it didn't feel

771
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: like she backed me one hundred percent. As I've grown

772
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: and become a woman and become a mother myself, I've

773
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: gotten to actually have a different perspective on where she

774
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: was at the time, you know, and she was super

775
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: she was a young mom kind of growing up herself

776
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: with me, and I think it's just given me a

777
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: deeper appreciation for her, and we have gotten closer. It's

778
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: really really come full circle having my daughter, and it's

779
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: brought us together and really opened up the room conversation,

780
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: and I'm really really happy with where we're at now.

781
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: I feel like that must be so healing, Like this

782
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: whole journey now, to be in this place and to

783
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: have your daughter and to be able to have these

784
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 3: conversations with your mother, it must be so special.

785
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: So special. I mean, there were definitely times that we

786
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: didn't talk and we weren't as close, and I always

787
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: wanted that, and so it's really nice to have that

788
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: now and just to have that respect for each other

789
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: in a new light, you know.

790
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.

791
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: So as you're walking forward now on this journey, we

792
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: talked about the events in August and beyond that the

793
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: Japan Exchange, But what are you most looking forward to

794
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: over the next few months.

795
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: I am looking forward to dressing her up for Halloween.

796
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to having to stand to come and

797
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: visit at Christmas. I'm excited about traveling and taking her

798
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: to places and visiting our family and friends all over

799
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: the world. And just like I'm excited about sharing more

800
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: waves with her. We've gotten gone surfing a few times already,

801
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: but she loves the water.

802
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: She oh my gosh, I need to hear about how

803
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: this works. So someone that is not like close enough

804
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: to the sport to understand how one surfs with of child.

805
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, like I said, I am a

806
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: very calculated risk taker, so I wouldn't be doing anything

807
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: that it doesn't make sense. But because I have done

808
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: this my whole life, we were like, okay, let's take her.

809
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: So we took her like three months and it was

810
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: a very very very small day. It was literal ripples,

811
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: and my husband paddled out. We had a huge board,

812
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: so just in case she rolled, there was enough time

813
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: to react, and he pushed us. I got up onto

814
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: my knees and then I picked her up and so

815
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: she could stand up, and so yeah, and she just

816
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: had a big smile on her face, and.

817
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: So, oh my god, how did that feel for you?

818
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: Best waves of my life for sure, best waves for sure.

819
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: Just so crazy. It's so crazy now.

820
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: I mean, even if I were to tell you when

821
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 3: we first sat down for hurdle in twenty twenty one,

822
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: that you would be sitting here in twenty twenty five,

823
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: wearing a baby talking to me again.

824
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: What comes up for you when I say that?

825
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I think what comes up when you

826
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: say that is like, this is what I have always

827
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: dreamed of, you know, And like there are moments where

828
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always I find myself chasing the

829
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: next thing, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is

830
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: literally what you always dreamed of, you know, is like

831
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: having a family. And so I'm just really really grateful.

832
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy that it all has come together when it did,

833
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: and I just thank the universe for a daughter, a beautiful,

834
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: healthy daughter, and for the opportunity to be a mom.

835
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: Practically speaking, how do you slow down?

836
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 3: How have you slowed down in a way that feels

837
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: good for you? Because I hear you when you say

838
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: I am competitive, I like to stay busy. I'm a perfectionist.

839
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 3: I totally identify with all of these things, and slowing

840
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: down can then have its fair share of challenges. So

841
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 3: how have you slowed down?

842
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, she definitely makes me slow down because she

843
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: takes intention, She takes me to be present with her.

844
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: Otherwise I think there's a disconnect, right, and then you

845
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: have a fussy, upset baby. So she's actually a very

846
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: She's a really good dial of like where I'm at

847
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: on slowing down. But I have to like when I

848
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: start to feel the shallow breaths, when I start to

849
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: feel like I need to look at my phone all

850
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: the time, or like I have to just say no, no,

851
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: I am not doing that, and it's uncomfortable. I almost

852
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: have to get uncomfortable for a second and just like

853
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: just put everything aside and just sit down. And that

854
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: helps me to go like redirect. But it's like I'm

855
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: still figuring it out. I don't have any answers for you.

856
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: No answers. You're still figuring out how to slow down.

857
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 3: And one day we will swap stories on what's worked

858
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: as you are in this transition of slowing down. What

859
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: would you say has been perhaps the most surprising impactful

860
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: aspect of this shift for you.

861
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: I really just think it's really given me a deeper

862
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: sense of gratitude for things, because when I'm moving so fast,

863
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't actually get to stop and smell the roses,

864
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: or in Hawaii we say stop and smell the pooor

865
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: so it's really allowed me to be grateful for everything

866
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: that I have and everything that I've gotten to do

867
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: and all.

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Speaker 3: Of that you've You've mentioned Chris wanting to show the

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Speaker 3: true journey of postpartum comebacks in sports. Can you elaborate

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Speaker 3: on what you mean by that and what message you're

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Speaker 3: really hoping to convey to other mothers when it comes

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Speaker 3: to within athletics or beyond.

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Speaker 1: I highly just want to like encourage and empower women

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Speaker 1: to reach out to other women, Like I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: how isolating motherhood can be. And I look around and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, every every woman has gone through something.

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Speaker 1: Every woman has a story that has a child. So

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Speaker 1: and in those conversations when I've had the courage to

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Speaker 1: reach out and ask, I have found honesty and vulnerability

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Speaker 1: that has given me comforts that I can move forward

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Speaker 1: with strength and knowing like I'm not alone. And so

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Speaker 1: I think just knowing that it's not perfect. That your

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent eighty percent is great, and you know

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Speaker 1: there is no everyone's timeline is different to getting back,

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Speaker 1: and maybe there is no back. Maybe it's just a

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Speaker 1: new version of yourself that's even better and stronger and

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Speaker 1: more powerful, and that there is a morning in like

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Speaker 1: your old life. If there are aspects that I really

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Speaker 1: really miss, but then there is also so much beauty

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Speaker 1: so they can coexist, which I is so conflicting. There

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Speaker 1: is no right or wrong way to raise a child

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Speaker 1: as long as there's just a lot of love there.

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Speaker 1: I think love is the answer. So at least that's

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Speaker 1: what I feel like I'm picking up.

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Speaker 2: You're like, that's what I feel like. It's working for me.

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Speaker 3: Well, right now, when you look in the mirror, Carissa,

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Speaker 3: what do you see looking back at you? Someone comes

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Speaker 3: to your Instagram page, they see five time world champion,

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Speaker 3: a two time Olympian, a gold medalist.

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Speaker 2: And now a new mom.

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Speaker 3: But when you look in the mirror, what is it

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Speaker 3: that you see looking back at you?

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Speaker 1: I just I see a woman who's been through a lot,

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Speaker 1: I think, who's worked really hard, who's pushed through some

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Speaker 1: really challenging moments, but has a big heart and wants

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Speaker 1: to continue to share that love and compassion with other people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been hard to look at myself in the mirror

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Speaker 1: for a lot of my life. You know, there's been

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Speaker 1: only like moments, but I definitely like who I see

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Speaker 1: staring back at me. Now. I feel more comfortable with

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Speaker 1: my reflection, and I think my daughter's really brought the

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Speaker 1: best out of me and helped me love myself.

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Speaker 3: It's so beautiful and it makes me so happy to

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Speaker 3: hear that you have some more peace now when you

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Speaker 3: look in the mirror, especially because when so many of

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Speaker 3: those people do go to your social media page, they

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Speaker 3: see what they want you to see as well, Like

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Speaker 3: they see this strong woman, this fierce competitor, this woman

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Speaker 3: who like truly embodies love. And so to be in

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Speaker 3: this place where you get to see that for yourself,

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Speaker 3: it's unrivaled.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you you made me. You know, you bring

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Speaker 1: tears to my eyes. It's very kind of you to say.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, like I just I'm just me. I'm just

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Speaker 1: myself and I'm living my life and I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: figure it out and sharing it along the way.

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Speaker 2: Sharing it along the way. Well, the last question we

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Speaker 2: ask hereon hurdle.

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Speaker 3: Right now, you have an opportunity to give yourself a

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Speaker 3: piece of advice. Let's go going back into that Olympic Games,

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Speaker 3: that the summer of twenty twenty four. Knowing what you

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Speaker 3: know now, what piece of advice would you offer your

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Speaker 3: younger self?

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Speaker 1: Know that everything happens for a reason. Every little moment

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Speaker 1: is going to lead you to exactly where you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be. And I've really truly believe every moment, every

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Speaker 1: experience up until this point has helped me to become

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Speaker 1: the mom I'm supposed to be. For this little person,

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Speaker 1: like I'll be able to look back and use what

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Speaker 1: I've learned to hopefully help her navigate her life and

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Speaker 1: be the best version of herself. So I think just

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Speaker 1: taking the good the bad, ebb and flow and surf

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Speaker 1: every wave. Whether you fall, get back up, try again,

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Speaker 1: and just make sure to have a lot of fun,

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Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. Don't be so hard on yourself.

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Speaker 2: Don't be so hard on yourself.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Well, I'm so happy that we were

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Speaker 3: able to reconnect here, Christopher. Those that aren't following along

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Speaker 3: with you just yet, how do they keep up with you?

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Speaker 2: Where can they find you?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, well, thank you so much. I've really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this conversation. You can keep up with me at

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Speaker 1: riskmoreten on Instagram and my charitable foundation at Morloha on

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Speaker 1: Instagram and morloha.

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Speaker 3: Dot com amazing, and I'll link all of that in

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Speaker 3: the show notes. I'm over at Emily A Badi and

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Speaker 3: at Hurdle Podcast Another Hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.