Speaker 1: Sunday, Sampler got a bunch of good stuff here, you know.
Speaker 1: On the Bobby Cast this week we had Dan and
Speaker 1: read Isabel. They are prolific writers, were in a bunch
Speaker 1: of hits like Luke Combs hits. But they have a
Speaker 1: great podcast called God's Country and I'm gonna play a
Speaker 1: clip from that and they talk about being burnt out,
Speaker 1: which is normal, just doesn't matter what the job is.
Speaker 1: We do talk about podcasting and like worst performances like
Speaker 1: that's coming up in just a second. And then movie
Speaker 1: Mike's Movie podcast, him and his wife went through the
Speaker 1: list of the best and the worst movies they saw
Speaker 1: in November. This is a really good guide for you guys.
Speaker 1: For me, I use stuff like this to figure out
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna watch. So all the shows are coming up,
Speaker 1: but I do want to talk with these guys first
Speaker 1: from the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2: Here they are Dan and read Isabel.
Speaker 1: So one of my friends today who I'm very close to.
Speaker 1: I was walking. We're walking together and he has a
Speaker 1: number one. He's about to have a second number one,
Speaker 1: and he knows I know how the games work, and
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I think that we have picked our
Speaker 1: date to strategically go for number one, and you know
Speaker 1: some people drop off. They all get in their little
Speaker 1: we you know, you know how it goes around here, indeed,
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, that's freaking awesome that your team
Speaker 1: is saying this is the date, because that's as close
Speaker 1: as you can get to getting it, that you've decided
Speaker 1: on the push date to getting it. And he's like,
Speaker 1: it's awesome. I said, so, do you have a what's
Speaker 1: your next song? And this is somebody to hang out
Speaker 1: with like twice a week, but we never talk music,
Speaker 1: and not because we avoid it, but because we're like
Speaker 1: actual friend Yeah, like playing trucks. And he was like,
Speaker 1: I just wrote it, just cut it, and he said,
Speaker 1: you listen to it. And I got that that old
Speaker 1: feeling that I used to hate when people say, hey,
Speaker 1: would you listen to my song? Because mostly it was
Speaker 1: what you listen to it and then play it right
Speaker 1: that I feel like everybody was trying to use me
Speaker 1: for something. Sure, but my first five years is all
Speaker 1: I felt. I didn't trust anybody. I was wrong about
Speaker 1: a lot of people's probably right about a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I was. I was right some and I got burned
Speaker 1: really bad and I think that's what made me overcorrect
Speaker 1: and just keep it. But he he sent me the
Speaker 1: song and I and for a second I had that
Speaker 1: PTSD of oh my god, and I'd have that many
Speaker 1: conversation with myself, like this is your really friend, This
Speaker 1: is a real life friend, like Compnity Kidney, you give
Speaker 1: them one friend. And I listened to the song, and
Speaker 1: in my head I was already imagining the text I
Speaker 1: was gonna have to send. Oh wow, man, hey, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what this does. In my head,
Speaker 1: that's what I was imagining, because that means it's fine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I listened to it. It was so good, like
Speaker 1: I wanted to cry, and I don't think it was.
Speaker 1: And the song was good. The song is really good.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it was because of just the
Speaker 1: song being really good. I think it was like all
Speaker 1: that that I just talked about. I was able to
Speaker 1: kind of just kind of kick all those feelings that
Speaker 1: I had about people using me, so I don't do this,
Speaker 1: and I do do this, and I keep these boundaries up.
Speaker 1: And then I have this friend who's been grinding so
Speaker 1: hard and lie I started to get tears of and
Speaker 1: I'm by myself, and I'm like, what is I'm like
Speaker 1: having this weird moment and I listened to this song,
Speaker 1: and this song is so good. I'm not gonna play it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying who it is. And so I text
Speaker 1: him back, I'm gonna write verbatim because I think as
Speaker 1: songwriters and just artists in general, you guys will relate.
Speaker 3: I'm excited about this.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know the guy that wrote that song,
Speaker 1: is what I replied. I said, I know the mediocre
Speaker 1: pickleball player that I beat the crap out of, but
Speaker 1: I don't know that guy who wrote that song. Like
Speaker 1: that's awesome, and sometimes you need to be reminded how
Speaker 1: awesome your friends are. And he wrote, thank you, It's
Speaker 1: probably the favorite thing I've ever written, you know, a
Speaker 1: personal thing about his family. And then I just wrote
Speaker 1: a couple things about I said, Hey, the concept was great,
Speaker 1: the word play was awesome. Sonically, whoever singing the harmony's
Speaker 1: like so technically. I just did a little quick evaluation.
Speaker 1: I said, gets to the hook quick, which is like
Speaker 1: a thing. And he says to me, hoping it's going
Speaker 1: to be the one that opens the door all the
Speaker 1: way for us. And as you was saying that, I
Speaker 1: said to that, I said I was dreading to listen
Speaker 1: to it because I was afraid to be fine, and
Speaker 1: I would just say, can't wait to see this song
Speaker 1: do his thing. But back to he said, hoping it
Speaker 1: was going to be the one that opens the door
Speaker 1: for us. And I feel like I said this because
Speaker 1: I have felt that way many times about many things
Speaker 1: that I was going to do. And there's not a door.
Speaker 1: There's never a door. There's there's never a door. And
Speaker 1: I said, the door will never be open all the way.
Speaker 1: It's just a different chase to a different door. But
Speaker 1: you wrote an excellent song, regardless of what it does
Speaker 1: on some chart based on a thousand variables, that is
Speaker 1: an amazing song. Acknowledging it now is extremely valuable because
Speaker 1: it won't be up to you or even up to
Speaker 1: your art. If it's going to be a number one,
Speaker 1: it's all by chance. I love youbody, And he writes
Speaker 1: a message back, and it was just the idea of again,
Speaker 1: here's my friend. And you guys have to create art
Speaker 1: out of your thoughts and your heart and your soul,
Speaker 1: and then you have to go and just let people judge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that's an interest, that's a that's
Speaker 3: a really I mean, like you can tell that whoever,
Speaker 3: even if it wasn't you, if someone had just read
Speaker 3: me that text message of what they replied, that's somebody
Speaker 3: that that has has grown up in the in the business,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, you know how the
Speaker 3: business works. And I think there for a while, when
Speaker 3: you're starry eyed, you have this concept that you're going
Speaker 3: to be able to release this song and that basically
Speaker 3: based on how people feel about it, it's going to
Speaker 3: perform at a certain level. And then maybe you even
Speaker 3: do that, maybe you even have one that connects and
Speaker 3: that's what brings you to the town.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: We've seen that a lot, and you know, to to
Speaker 3: when you kind of see behind the curtain on on
Speaker 3: the game of it, it's a different it's a different deal.
Speaker 3: So to have someone who's who knows that and is
Speaker 3: able to ship and I know we're talking way inside here.
Speaker 1: I hope that's that's why we do this talk inside
Speaker 1: is Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just think it's it's cool and it probably meant
Speaker 3: a lot to him to hear it from somebody who's
Speaker 3: who has done that and been a part of it
Speaker 3: and honestly kind of like dissociated themselves from that and go,
Speaker 3: this is my honest opinion, and whether it does anything
Speaker 3: or not, like great tune, man, And that's what that
Speaker 3: means a lot to creatives.
Speaker 5: No doubt. Yeah, because like it feels like in that
Speaker 5: moment like put yeah, putting ever, put the lights, put
Speaker 5: the radio, shows, put the radio, put everything aside. A
Speaker 5: great song was heard and appreciated and moved somebody the
Speaker 5: way it is created to do.
Speaker 1: Period. Before you start, he starts or she whoever starts
Speaker 1: second guessing maybe this song wasn't as good as I
Speaker 1: thought it was.
Speaker 3: Oh he or she thought that when they sent it,
Speaker 3: because I mean, I do that all the time. It's like, man,
Speaker 3: this song is a banger, Dude, I know this is awesome.
Speaker 3: And then I get in the truck with reading, I'm like,
Speaker 3: check this tune out and I play it, and like
Speaker 3: halfway through the first verse, I'm like, oh, shouldn't I
Speaker 3: say that, Oh he probably doesn't like that part. This
Speaker 3: should get a reaction.
Speaker 1: It didn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean, And before you know it, you're cutting
Speaker 3: it off. Halfway through the second verse, one it ain't
Speaker 3: that good. You know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: And you've assigned his thoughts unfairly, totally, unfairly cast up
Speaker 1: thing little food for yoursel life.
Speaker 6: Oh it's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: It's pretty beautiful, beautiful that for a little more said,
Speaker 1: he can't cut your kick in with Fulling with Amy Brown.
Speaker 7: The first email is from a listener that was asking
Speaker 7: about alan On because I shared about my allan On
Speaker 7: experience in last week's episode, which, if you're not familiar,
Speaker 7: allan On is a support group that helps loved one
Speaker 7: of alcoholics by providing a place to meet to have
Speaker 7: a safe space to share and learn how to cope.
Speaker 7: So that's what allan On is. And I'm going to
Speaker 7: leave the listener's name off because this is something very
Speaker 7: personal and I want to respect that. And sometimes I
Speaker 7: have time to hear back permission to use names when
Speaker 7: it's something personal, but in this case, I just got
Speaker 7: the email this morning.
Speaker 2: So here's what they wrote.
Speaker 7: Hey, Amy, longtime listener, and I have been listening to
Speaker 7: four Things since it came out. After hearing the latest podcast,
Speaker 7: you mentioned that you went to alan on meetings and
Speaker 7: you tried to go weekly. What gave you the motivation
Speaker 7: to go when it's mainly to deal with the person
Speaker 7: in your life that has the problem. A little background
Speaker 7: on me. I did go to therapy for myself for
Speaker 7: many years, mainly for anxiety and panic attacks. So I'm
Speaker 7: in no way against personal growth, therapy, rehab, etc. Someone
Speaker 7: in my life is an alcoholic and we haven't had
Speaker 7: a relationship for over ten years, just recently went to
Speaker 7: rehab and have been sober a couple of months. How
Speaker 7: did you get in the mindset that going to those
Speaker 7: meetings would be best for you? I feel like, since
Speaker 7: I'm not the one with the disease, I don't want
Speaker 7: to do the work, especially with children and limited time
Speaker 7: for myself as it is. Also, maybe I'm being a
Speaker 7: whiny baby. It's a hard place to be in your
Speaker 7: friend blank from blank All right, So, dear Blank, here's
Speaker 7: what I will say to you. I'm sorry that you're
Speaker 7: dealing with this. Thank you for listening to the podcast
Speaker 7: all of these years and for taking the time to
Speaker 7: email me about something so personal. It's definitely a hard
Speaker 7: place to be, and you are not a whiny baby
Speaker 7: for feeling this way at all, whatsoever. What you are
Speaker 7: experiencing is totally valid, and it's okay to feel conflicted
Speaker 7: about adding one more thing to your plate, especially when
Speaker 7: it's not something you asked for or something you've done.
Speaker 7: I totally get it. I'd never even heard of alan
Speaker 7: On until a few years ago, and started going when
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 8: Advised to go.
Speaker 7: It was made very clear to me by a couple
Speaker 7: of trusted people that I had my own issues based
Speaker 7: on my relationship with my qualifier. Now, in this case,
Speaker 7: your family member is the qualifier, and there are certain
Speaker 7: behaviors that we pick up along the way that aren't helpful,
Speaker 7: even if their behaviors or patterns from ten years ago,
Speaker 7: twenty years ago, or two months ago. For example, I
Speaker 7: was extremely codependent, I lacked boundaries, I enabled, I frequently
Speaker 7: got involved in things that were not on my side
Speaker 7: of the street, etc. But in my mind, none of
Speaker 7: those things were my problem. They were because of my qualifier. So,
Speaker 7: similar to you, I didn't understand why I needed help
Speaker 7: dealing with someone else's problem. Well, what I learned over
Speaker 7: time is that all of those things, they were my
Speaker 7: problem and my responsibility, and if I wanted peace and change,
Speaker 7: I had to put in the work like it wasn't
Speaker 7: about fixing the other person, but really about finding the
Speaker 7: tools to help me feel less stuck and less frustrated
Speaker 7: and just less helpless, and really to have the best
Speaker 7: relationship with my qualifier possible because I still wanted that.
Speaker 7: So I don't know all the details of your situation
Speaker 7: and if you even want a relationship with this person,
Speaker 7: but if they're sober, I mean, it could be a
Speaker 7: beautiful time for you to nurture your relationship. But that
Speaker 7: will take you staying on your side of the street,
Speaker 7: focusing on you. I mean, if I really thought about
Speaker 7: the exact motivation. Yes, I was encouraged by other people,
Speaker 7: but it really boiled down to peace for myself and
Speaker 7: me focusing on myself. And that's what those very t
Speaker 7: trusted people in my life could see that I couldn't
Speaker 7: see at the time. They were observing my actions, and
Speaker 7: it was very clear to them that I was in
Speaker 7: victim mode and contributing to the agony I was feeling.
Speaker 7: And they could see that if I didn't learn how
Speaker 7: to manage that, I was never going to find peace.
Speaker 7: So for me, yeah, boiled down to finding peace. And
Speaker 7: the awesome thing about alan On is that it helped
Speaker 7: me focus on what I can control, like my reactions, boundaries, mindset,
Speaker 7: and I did mention a weekly meeting that I try
Speaker 7: to go to in last week's episode, But you don't
Speaker 7: have to go weekly or even commit to it long
Speaker 7: term to benefit from it. You can just take it
Speaker 7: one meeting at a time and see how it feels.
Speaker 7: There are even zoom options that I've done that are helpful.
Speaker 7: I never regret going to a meeting, and I love
Speaker 7: some of the friends that I've made along the way.
Speaker 7: I mean, these are the type of friends that will
Speaker 7: not judge anything, so it's very refreshing. And also I
Speaker 7: totally get that you're a mom and your time is limited,
Speaker 7: but I do think that giving yourself even an hour
Speaker 7: here or there can make such a big difference. And
Speaker 7: you are not alone in this. I admire you for
Speaker 7: even considering going, Like sending me this email just shows
Speaker 7: that you care and you're curious, and I think curiosity
Speaker 7: is very important. And this isn't just about your relationship
Speaker 7: with this person in your life, this family member, but
Speaker 7: it is about you and your family. I can say
Speaker 7: that going has made me a better mom, and I
Speaker 7: didn't expect that to be the case, but that was
Speaker 7: my ignorance of it all. Like I was very ignorant
Speaker 7: when it came to anything with alcohol and addiction and
Speaker 7: all that comes with that. So whatever you decide, give
Speaker 7: yourself grace and know that you are doing your best.
Speaker 7: And this is a really tough situation. So that is
Speaker 7: what I will say to you there. You just got
Speaker 7: to take care of you whatever that looks like.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it live.
Speaker 9: Oh, the one, two, three, Sore Losers?
Speaker 10: What up, everybody? I am lunchbox.
Speaker 11: I know the most about sports, so I'll give you
Speaker 11: the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much
Speaker 11: a sports genius, y'all.
Speaker 9: It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
Speaker 9: I live on the North side of Nashville with Bayser,
Speaker 9: my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
Speaker 9: lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully
Speaker 9: soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue
Speaker 9: to be determined. Over to you, coach, And.
Speaker 11: Here's a clip from this week's episode of The Sore Losers.
Speaker 11: What the is Bill Belichick doing? He explained it to me.
Speaker 11: He said, it on dirt. He said he was going
Speaker 11: to do it on dot. No, no, he said he
Speaker 11: was gonna.
Speaker 10: Do it on dot. What is he doing.
Speaker 9: He's at home with that twenty two year old bored
Speaker 9: out of his mind. He's doing this talk shows with
Speaker 9: Pat McAfee's talking ball. He still got it. He's bored
Speaker 9: out of his mind. He doesn't have Maybe he exercises
Speaker 9: a little. It doesn't look like he's a massive bike rider,
Speaker 9: canoe or kayaker water sports.
Speaker 11: Definitely doesn't look like he gets on the peloton.
Speaker 10: At all, at least so much more time during the day.
Speaker 9: And he says, I can probably do this it maybe
Speaker 9: get out of the Patriots a bad situation.
Speaker 10: We learned Urbanemeyer did it.
Speaker 9: You UNC must have a great quarterback coming up in
Speaker 9: the system, another Tom Brady, and so he said, this
Speaker 9: is my time to shine U. N C is primed
Speaker 9: right now because are they in the ACC Yeah, dog shit,
Speaker 9: they're losing cam Ward, Miami's terrible, Florida State's terrible, They
Speaker 9: Clemson Kate Klubnick's probably gonna go to Broncos minor league team.
Speaker 9: So you got to think he's seeing you and see
Speaker 9: they're gonna win it. Next year they're in the top
Speaker 9: twelve team playoff the way it's format, and now you
Speaker 9: can win a championship within one to two years and
Speaker 9: the portal Billchick's champion.
Speaker 11: I get the acc It seems simple like, but I
Speaker 11: don't understand Bill Belichick going into an eighteen year old's
Speaker 11: house and being.
Speaker 10: Like, hey man, you wanna go to North Carolina?
Speaker 11: Like, what the is he gonna say to an eighteen
Speaker 11: year old Eighteen year olds don't give a crap about
Speaker 11: Bill Belichick.
Speaker 9: I'm not talking about it because he already said it
Speaker 9: on Dot. You want to know what he said. What
Speaker 9: said He's gonna treat it like a factory. So he
Speaker 9: would then go into these kids' houses. A lot of me,
Speaker 9: you don't go into their house now physically it's more
Speaker 9: a virtual type thing. But he will then go into
Speaker 9: some of the premier A List type guys. He's gonna
Speaker 9: go in their living room and he's gonna say it's
Speaker 9: a factory. I will get you into the NFL. I'm
Speaker 9: gonna build you these four years to make you an
Speaker 9: NFL prospect. What I can do is do that Norther coaching,
Speaker 9: then college football can do that because none of them
Speaker 9: have done it at an elite level as an NFL player,
Speaker 9: coach and all that and won championships. He said, it
Speaker 9: will be a fact you n C copyrighted factory.
Speaker 10: Hang up and listen.
Speaker 11: I heard all that on him. He's seventy two years old.
Speaker 11: There's the realistically two years, two years. There's no way
Speaker 11: he's going to be coaching for that much longer.
Speaker 9: Dude, what is it with everything? You got to do
Speaker 9: it in moderation. No coach knows when to go out
Speaker 9: at the right time. You never know when to leave
Speaker 9: Vegas at the right time.
Speaker 10: You do.
Speaker 9: Yeah, if you have some self control you get when
Speaker 9: you get out of coaching. Tom Brady he's got the itch.
Speaker 9: He's acting like he's gonna plead quarterback again.
Speaker 11: Oh my god, he's he's got to quit announcing because
Speaker 11: he's terrible at that. He's decent, but he doesn't put
Speaker 11: in much work.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 11: There's no there's no way he's practicing midweek, like all right,
Speaker 11: let me let me work on this. Like he's not
Speaker 11: going over game tape. He is showing up on Sunday
Speaker 11: and just winging it. Because the dude is not polished
Speaker 11: at all. He hasn't gotten any better. It just seems
Speaker 11: like he does. He's getting paid three hundred and something
Speaker 11: million dollars and he's like, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 10: Fire me? Great point, great point.
Speaker 9: I bet he watched a little bit of film the
Speaker 9: night before a day of that's he's got five days off, five.
Speaker 11: Days off, and he's just chilling, hanging out at the
Speaker 11: beach or whatever he does. I don't even know what
Speaker 11: he does in his spare time. It has to be
Speaker 11: at the beach because he's very tan.
Speaker 9: But dude, people are realizing nobody wants to just go
Speaker 9: home and lay in bed. We weren't made to lay
Speaker 9: in that position until we're in the coffin. Amen, Amen Belichick.
Speaker 9: He's with the chicks banging or bagging her. Eh gets
Speaker 9: a free time, man, why not do you NC?
Speaker 10: I just can't figure it out.
Speaker 9: Due he's on Pat mcavy every damn day or something. Shit,
Speaker 9: He's all the time on there talking. He'll do a
Speaker 9: secondent for forty five minutes. He ain't got nowhere to
Speaker 9: be pour it out of his mind. Dude loves talking ball.
Speaker 9: Why not talk ball for a team that you think
Speaker 9: you can maybe make a difference with.
Speaker 11: Now, I do understand he's gonna have the coaching edge
Speaker 11: over any coach he faces.
Speaker 10: He's the better. He's a better coach than anyone he's
Speaker 10: gonna face.
Speaker 9: When's the best time to enter the twelve team playoff
Speaker 9: this year? When's the second best yet time next year?
Speaker 9: That's what he's doing. It's a brand new system. Look
Speaker 9: all the teams that got in this year, Indiana.
Speaker 10: Arizona State. He said, holy shit, I could win this
Speaker 10: thing first year. I mean, you get into twelve, you
Speaker 10: got a chance.
Speaker 11: I My belief is he's doing this just to guarantee
Speaker 11: his son gets a head coaching job that he's gonna
Speaker 11: when he retires, that they have to name him the
Speaker 11: head coach or whatever. He's the head coach in waiting.
Speaker 11: And so he's like, you know what, I'm not gonna
Speaker 11: go back to the NFL. But this is so much
Speaker 11: more of a grind. You're seventy two years old. How
Speaker 11: much energy can a seventy two.
Speaker 10: Year old have?
Speaker 9: Well, and even more than that, you're talking about what's
Speaker 9: the other great one?
Speaker 10: What's his name?
Speaker 9: Nick saban Eh College game day morning. He kind of
Speaker 9: slows it down a little bit it's kind of been unwatchable.
Speaker 9: I'll watch clips and highlights and stuff. It just it
Speaker 9: brings a well oiled machine to us.
Speaker 10: Oh halt.
Speaker 9: Saban says some good stuff, but it's like, dude, sometimes
Speaker 9: that TV stuff's tough.
Speaker 10: Belichick's great at it. I think Saban maybe gets back
Speaker 10: into coaching and.
Speaker 11: Says, dude, there's no way Saban's going back.
Speaker 10: It's like Or loves big newon Kickoff.
Speaker 9: He was on there the other day and he got
Speaker 9: They're saying like, hey, ten million, would you do a
Speaker 9: coaching job or something for ten million? He goes getting
Speaker 9: paid that here, why would I do that? So Urban
Speaker 9: ain't going anywhere. He loves talking on TV bullshitting Saban. Dude,
Speaker 9: he's more of a cut and dried guy. I mean,
Speaker 9: Saban likes McAfee, but it's like, how many more times
Speaker 9: can he laugh at McAfee's standing up making an ass
Speaker 9: of himself. Saban maybe gets back into coaching. Belichick. He
Speaker 9: loves his little hits that he does, but he's like, dude,
Speaker 9: I kind of meant to just be a coach.
Speaker 2: He loves to be a coach.
Speaker 10: He loves to be a coach. You realize it.
Speaker 11: God, I just I can't figure it out. Man, Like,
Speaker 11: does that mean no NFL team was showing any inkling
Speaker 11: of interest? And so he's like, you know what, I'll
Speaker 11: go to you and see.
Speaker 9: Well, half the teams are gonna make the playoffs, the
Speaker 9: other half aren't. Maybe he turned Maybe there's stuff that
Speaker 9: happens we never hear about. Maybe he turns down. Who
Speaker 9: says he do they have to announce that he goes
Speaker 9: in interviews? What if he just went and chilled in
Speaker 9: Arizona and kind of hung with the Cardinals for a
Speaker 9: little bit, Like I don't love this culture.
Speaker 10: I'm out, man. Did we have a great culture at
Speaker 10: the Patriot?
Speaker 11: There's no way, There's no way we would know, we
Speaker 11: would know every move that Bill Belichick makes with.
Speaker 12: Lloydan Uelsman, this is the Kansas Kids episode, and I
Speaker 12: have got Nicole Gallion on here. Nicole and I have
Speaker 12: become friends in recent years, especially over our loved connection
Speaker 12: of Kansas.
Speaker 2: Nicole, how are you wonderful?
Speaker 13: Good to see you?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 12: The purpose of this episode is people who have moved
Speaker 12: away from their home state when it was kind of
Speaker 12: unheard of and not something that a lot of people did,
Speaker 12: and chase their dreams. So before we get into that, though, like,
Speaker 12: tell me kind of your origin story when you started
Speaker 12: writing and wanting to chase the dream of music, and
Speaker 12: when you were first starting to think, Okay, I don't
Speaker 12: think I can live here and do what I want
Speaker 12: to do.
Speaker 13: So I went to this thing when I was in
Speaker 13: junior high with my mom called at the time as
Speaker 13: fan Fair, which to a cmafest. I'm sure all of
Speaker 13: your followers know what CMA Fest is, but back when
Speaker 13: I was in middle school, my mom and I went
Speaker 13: to CMA Fest like Fanfare, three or four years in
Speaker 13: a row, and it was my first time on an
Speaker 13: airplane to go anywhere. And so we came to Nashville
Speaker 13: and I just learned about this place called Belmont, and
Speaker 13: I remember like just knowing like, oh, I have to
Speaker 13: go there.
Speaker 2: I have to be there now.
Speaker 13: Granted I had never been to like any other city,
Speaker 13: but it was totally like grand design that I came
Speaker 13: to Nashville first and fell in love with it. So
Speaker 13: I always at that time like I just knew that
Speaker 13: I needed to be in Nashville. I didn't really know
Speaker 13: the why. I just was for sure that I needed
Speaker 13: to get here, and that is really the way it
Speaker 13: worked out. I got here, went to Belmont, and then
Speaker 13: I learned about songwriting. It was so weird because I like,
Speaker 13: I have a job that I didn't know existed when
Speaker 13: I was growing up in Kansas. And I'm sure you're
Speaker 13: in the same boat where you're like, I have a
Speaker 13: job that I didn't know I could have, you know,
Speaker 13: I mean, did you think you were gonna win a
Speaker 13: CMA award?
Speaker 12: You know it's like, oh, no social media, no working
Speaker 12: in social media side of that.
Speaker 13: Yeah, no, yeah, a hundred percent. So I guess like
Speaker 13: Nashville is the thing that like spoke to me more
Speaker 13: than songwriting. And then I got here and met songwriters,
Speaker 13: and I was like, I think I'm a songwriter because
Speaker 13: I was always a writer, Like wrote in every way
Speaker 13: that I possibly could, you know, and whatever my hometown
Speaker 13: had to offer me, like your book, or I wrote
Speaker 13: for our small town newspapers in the summer, Like as
Speaker 13: a journalist, I would go to the city commission meetings
Speaker 13: and like write the copy for the newspaper. I just
Speaker 13: loved writing, very creative. So it makes sense now in hindsight.
Speaker 13: By the time I didn't really know.
Speaker 12: The Kansas Kids episode continues, Logan Mize is joined with
Speaker 12: me right now. Logan, you have been part of my
Speaker 12: life as a friend, as an artist, as so many
Speaker 12: different things.
Speaker 8: So it's really good to have you here.
Speaker 14: How are you good?
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 12: At what point for you when you were growing up
Speaker 12: where you're like, Okay, I want to be an artist
Speaker 12: and I'm going to move away from here.
Speaker 14: Well, it wasn't that much of it, wasn't that clear
Speaker 14: of a decision. I was just like I couldn't never
Speaker 14: stick with anything, Like I was kind of a meandering idiot, honestly,
Speaker 14: but I and I wasn't like a great singer by
Speaker 14: any means that I had to like really work at that.
Speaker 14: But I loved music. I loved songs, and you know,
Speaker 14: I just a night out for me as a kid
Speaker 14: was like begging my parents to take me to Witch
Speaker 14: Talk so we could go to Blockbuster Music. And I
Speaker 14: don't know if you remember.
Speaker 15: That, Yeah, Blockbuster music, Blockbuster Music.
Speaker 14: I'm showing my age a little bit.
Speaker 12: I know there's like Blockbuster for DVDs, but Blockbuster music.
Speaker 14: There was a Blockbuster Music. See that's how much older
Speaker 14: I am than new Okay, So thirty nine. Full disclosure.
Speaker 8: That's only eight years. That's not that much.
Speaker 14: Okay, well it must have closed down at some point.
Speaker 1: It was it was amazing.
Speaker 14: First of all, you would go and to this big
Speaker 14: section and it was like the lighting was cool, and
Speaker 14: there was music posters everywhere, and there was rows and
Speaker 14: rows of CDs and you could go just you could
Speaker 14: find anything. And so I would beg my parents to
Speaker 14: take me. We'd go on a Friday night. I'd spend
Speaker 14: hours in there. And my parents like music too, so
Speaker 14: that was like what I loved, and I just I
Speaker 14: didn't know that I wanted to do music. I just
Speaker 14: that was where my heart was. But I couldn't stick
Speaker 14: with anything, you know, I couldn't stick with piano lessons.
Speaker 14: You know, I dropped out of three different colleges. I
Speaker 14: just was a mess. And that was the one thing
Speaker 14: that I always felt passionate enough about to where like
Speaker 14: I can stick with that.
Speaker 6: Carlone, she's a queen and talking, so she's getting really
Speaker 6: not afraid to feel the episode, so just let it flow.
Speaker 6: No one can do were quiet like carry line.
Speaker 16: It's so with Caroline.
Speaker 8: So your dad's a truck driver, he is, Yeah, he
Speaker 8: inspired your hats.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
Speaker 16: He he was one of the reasons that I started
Speaker 16: doing it, and Marcus as well. You know, Marcus is
Speaker 16: always wearing the feathers on his cowboy.
Speaker 17: Hat, and we needed base like trucker hat, yeah, and we.
Speaker 15: Needed to dress them up a little bit.
Speaker 16: That's I always found myself like kind of looking for
Speaker 16: a trucker that was just a little elevated.
Speaker 15: Agreed, you know, yes, yes, because they there's.
Speaker 16: Just a lot of them everywhere and now, and they're
Speaker 16: not always like the most meaningful things, and so I
Speaker 16: just I liked to have something that was a little
Speaker 16: bit nicer than like what I have on my head
Speaker 16: right now. This is but then again, I do be
Speaker 16: wearing this with like a damn ball gown.
Speaker 17: So this is your hat.
Speaker 16: This is no this is the guy that makes Marcus
Speaker 16: his guitars. Banker Banker handcrafted. Yeah, that mister banker custom
Speaker 16: on Instagram. But he just had a bunch of these,
Speaker 16: and I worked Everyone thinks I'm a banker, so we
Speaker 16: did work at a bank, right, So when I met
Speaker 16: Marcus's family, they were like, you know, even like my mom,
Speaker 16: just people from back home who haven't really like seen
Speaker 16: these you know, the big towers in the city, like
Speaker 16: in Charlotte, where people work in Bank of America. If
Speaker 16: you tell somebody I work at Bank of America, they're
Speaker 16: thinking like a teller or something like that. And so
Speaker 16: Marcus's family when we first met, they were like, oh,
Speaker 16: you know, Uncle Danny had a big amount of money
Speaker 16: go missing out of his account the other day. Do
Speaker 16: you think that you could, like, uh, you know, help
Speaker 16: him within that. And I'm like, I don't know how
Speaker 16: to tell you this, but I don't work at like
Speaker 16: a branch. I work from home, which is another foreign
Speaker 16: thing that my mom couldn't wrap her head around, was
Speaker 16: working from home a lot. But anyway, I I told
Speaker 16: his family, I'm like, no, I'm in like I'm in
Speaker 16: like acquisitions. So we're like, you know, taking over a
Speaker 16: company and banquifying them. And yeah, I'm not sure that
Speaker 16: I ever fully explained it to them, but hopefully Uncle
Speaker 16: Danny got his money back.
Speaker 17: I didn't.
Speaker 15: I was just like, I can't help in that department.
Speaker 18: I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't do that.
Speaker 16: I don't I don't touch the money, and thank God
Speaker 16: for it, because I'm a gold digger, you know, a
Speaker 16: gold digger.
Speaker 17: So you would think because of that, actually, you doing
Speaker 17: a banker hat would be fitting.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 8: I mean the brand, Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 15: Yeah, this is one of the first ones that I was.
Speaker 17: Th say, you're a gold digger just because you're married
Speaker 17: to Marcus. Was he already like rocking when y'all met?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah he really was. Tell me he slid my
Speaker 15: DMS threw me a fire.
Speaker 17: How did he find you?
Speaker 15: I was I had gone to his concert.
Speaker 16: It was my It was my birthday that week, and
Speaker 16: so you know white girls under birthdays, they got to
Speaker 16: have a week full of events and so at the
Speaker 16: top of it, yeah, I think he was smack dab
Speaker 16: in the center.
Speaker 15: He might have even been on a Tuesday. O crunk
Speaker 15: on a Tuesday.
Speaker 17: Okay, so what year is this? How old were you?
Speaker 15: This is where twenty twenty one. I turned thirty that year, So.
Speaker 17: This was a big birthday week.
Speaker 8: M h and yeah, we're in Charlotte, Charlotte.
Speaker 15: And then we met in Raleigh the next night. He
Speaker 15: was like, can I take you to dinner?
Speaker 17: So how did he know you were at the show?
Speaker 15: I had posted a story.
Speaker 17: Oh and he saw himself taging it and he was like, man,
Speaker 17: that girl's.
Speaker 8: Cut and what did he say?
Speaker 7: So what?
Speaker 15: He just sent me a fire emoji?
Speaker 17: What is it like when you are at a show
Speaker 17: watching someone who you like just love their music.
Speaker 15: I wasn't even watching.
Speaker 8: I wasn't you were just having a great time.
Speaker 15: Yeah, how are you doing?
Speaker 16: I was hitting my pen and I was laid back
Speaker 16: on the lawn because I was in like the very
Speaker 16: very back of the lawn section. I was just watching
Speaker 16: the planes and things go.
Speaker 15: By and chatting with my friend, like, can you believe
Speaker 15: I'm thirty?
Speaker 17: I you know, are you feeling good about thirty?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Oh my good.
Speaker 15: Yes.
Speaker 16: Any anytime I meet someone that's like, oh my god, thirty,
Speaker 16: because you know, in the South, like you got to
Speaker 16: be like married by twenty five or at least that's
Speaker 16: that's how it is where I'm from. And uh, anytime
Speaker 16: I meet someone that's like, oh, you know, I thought
Speaker 16: I'd have my life together by thirty or that this
Speaker 16: that that that, I'm like, it's it was the best.
Speaker 16: Like I came into my own when I turned thirty.
Speaker 16: Now I did meet my husband that week, but I'm
Speaker 16: just like, yeah, how.
Speaker 17: Had you come into your own? I had change or shifted.
Speaker 15: I had my dream job.
Speaker 16: Hm, that was that was really you know where because
Speaker 16: my mom was is in finance and you know, worked
Speaker 16: for a long standing company like Bank of America.
Speaker 15: And so it's just a really good job I had.
Speaker 16: Like I'll said, I loved in the cutest part of
Speaker 16: Charlotte Dealworth and I thought, you know this is I
Speaker 16: can die happy. I've got a little tether in the
Speaker 16: backyard from my dog to run around the circles on
Speaker 16: and uh two bed, one bath.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was just everything everything I'd ever wanted. And
Speaker 15: then here comes mister King.
Speaker 17: Were you ever thinking you'd be married to someone like
Speaker 17: creative like that? Or would you would you have thought
Speaker 17: you would have married someone like a banker?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 16: The thing with me is is like I didn't ever
Speaker 16: have a type, so like all the men were very
Speaker 16: very different and different.
Speaker 15: Different career paths. Uh So I didn't really know what
Speaker 15: to expect.
Speaker 16: Honestly, I kind of accepted that it wasn't in the
Speaker 16: cards for me anytime soon.
Speaker 15: Like I was just like, I don't I don't need
Speaker 15: no man. I was making good money and I'm like,
Speaker 15: I don't need anybody to come wreck shop.
Speaker 16: You know I got a truth holding it down myself. Yeah,
Speaker 16: but I'm happy that it happened the way it did.
Speaker 4: Hey, it's Mike d and this week all Movie Mike's
Speaker 4: Movie Podcast, my wife Kelsey on and we broke down
Speaker 4: our best and worst movies that we've seen in theaters
Speaker 4: and streaming from the last thirty days, giving you recommendations
Speaker 4: on waste to save time and money on movies we
Speaker 4: think you should skip, and movies we.
Speaker 2: Think that you're going to absolutely love.
Speaker 4: I'll play you a little bit of this episode now
Speaker 4: of us talking about our best movies, but be sure
Speaker 4: to check out this full episode to hear all of
Speaker 4: our picks. But right now, here's just a little bit
Speaker 4: of Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. What was the best thing
Speaker 4: we watched in your opinion?
Speaker 18: As if you've enough to ask, the green lights behind
Speaker 18: my head didn't tell you it is wicked?
Speaker 4: Is it a movie that you've been thinking about every
Speaker 4: day since? Because that is my sign of oh that
Speaker 4: was a good movie.
Speaker 18: I think about it. I watched TikTok's about it. The
Speaker 18: soundtrack comes up on Spotify. I said that weird. Well,
Speaker 18: I was gonna say shuffle on Spotify.
Speaker 2: Suffle, Spotify, and you got that internet radio on your phone.
Speaker 18: Popular has been coming on Gracy Abrams Radio, so I
Speaker 18: have been listening Popular.
Speaker 2: So is it the popular from the movie or the
Speaker 2: popular from the musical?
Speaker 8: The movie?
Speaker 17: You know?
Speaker 18: I think about holding space for the lyrics of define
Speaker 18: Gravity about once a day. I want to go see
Speaker 18: it again. I tell other people to go see it.
Speaker 18: I ask people if they've seen it. So, yeah, it
Speaker 18: does consume a lot of my brain power.
Speaker 4: I did go back and I rewatched The Wizard of
Speaker 4: Oz when last weekend without me.
Speaker 2: I'll rewatch it again. I'll watch that movie every day.
Speaker 2: I love it. That like Saturday morning, I just started it.
Speaker 8: That's so rude.
Speaker 4: How is it rude watching a movie we've both seen.
Speaker 4: It's not like I rewatched it, watch it and I'll
Speaker 4: rewatch it again. We've both already seen it. It's not
Speaker 4: like we were I started a show without you.
Speaker 8: It's rude to rewatch a movie on Saturday morning when
Speaker 8: you know I sleep.
Speaker 4: I watched like two other movies in that time, so
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, i'll watch this one now. It's
Speaker 4: surprisingly shorter than I remember. I mean, it's like an
Speaker 4: hour and a half so it's a quick watch. But
Speaker 4: I did some research on that because Warner Brothers owns
Speaker 4: the rights to Wizard of Oz and it's not public
Speaker 4: domain until twenty thirty five, so that leads me to
Speaker 4: believe that they are building up towards remaking the Wizard
Speaker 4: of Oz because once it's public domain, it's free game
Speaker 4: for people to make it. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: can rebuy the rights to have it reset for another
Speaker 4: one hundred years. But who do you think should play
Speaker 4: Dorothy in a remaking of the Wizard of Oz? I
Speaker 4: started thinking about that, like who kind of fits?
Speaker 8: Advance warning about thinking about this shed put me on
Speaker 8: the spot right now.
Speaker 4: Okay, I feel like you would have somebody in mind
Speaker 4: because you really don't have to be I mean, Judy
Speaker 4: Garland could sing, but I almost feel at this point
Speaker 4: you don't have to be a singer you could have
Speaker 4: because I think that's kind of hard to find somebody
Speaker 4: at the level of like Brand Carpenter to Herbi Dorothy
Speaker 4: dire hair Brown. I was thinking like a Daisy Ridley, like.
Speaker 8: You're just gonna pick one of the Daisy's for everything
Speaker 8: right now?
Speaker 2: I just feel like you need somebody who already has
Speaker 2: like the hair.
Speaker 15: But I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't see Daisy Bridley in a whims Cool musical.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's a little bit too old for that role.
Speaker 18: Daisy Edgar Jones. I could, yeah, actually, because when she
Speaker 18: was doing the Twisters press tour, everyone's like, what's one
Speaker 18: thing people don't know about you? And she's like, I'm
Speaker 18: quite silly, and she's like in her mid twenties. I
Speaker 18: can see Daisy Edgar Jones.
Speaker 2: I'll go with my other Daisy, my backup busy.
Speaker 8: Which we did rewatch Twisters on Things Giving Now we.
Speaker 2: Did, and we blew up the air mattress and rewatched
Speaker 2: that movie.
Speaker 8: Great, great experience.
Speaker 18: Sometimes being an adults fun, Like just blow up the
Speaker 18: air mattress for me a cookie cake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nobody who can tell you not to.
Speaker 4: That was always something I wanted to do as a kid,
Speaker 4: like blow up an air mattress or create like a
Speaker 4: pillow for it and watch movies with in.
Speaker 1: I never did it.
Speaker 2: Now I've done it. It's fun.
Speaker 8: It's great.
Speaker 2: My best of the month for I wasn't done talking
Speaker 2: about Wicked. Oh you got more.
Speaker 18: I didn't even know who you didn't even let me
Speaker 18: finish you sidetracked on the remaking of the Wizard of Us.
Speaker 8: Okay, even if and I we did the review, I
Speaker 8: forgot already. We did that after we saw it.
Speaker 18: Even if you're not a musical person a theater person,
Speaker 18: go see it. It's so well done. I know people
Speaker 18: are like, this press tour they've done is wild, and
Speaker 18: I do admit it is strange to watch them cry
Speaker 18: in every interview, but you know what, they're proud of
Speaker 18: their work. It was an experience and I think they
Speaker 18: both should be proud of it because they're both phenomenal
Speaker 18: in it. And I think it's just so good. And
Speaker 18: even if you're like, wow, two and a half hours,
Speaker 18: it doesn't feel like it. I'm like another movie we're
Speaker 18: gonna talk about. So yeah, go see what I could.
Speaker 4: Got my good now, yes, all right? For my best
Speaker 4: of the month, I'm going with A Real Pain, which
Speaker 4: was a story with Kieran Colkin. You said it right time, okay,
Speaker 4: making sure and Jesse Eisenberg and I feel like that
Speaker 4: movie really hit me on an emotional level that I
Speaker 4: wasn't quite expecting.
Speaker 8: TikTok about that made me really sad.
Speaker 4: That I feel like Jesse Eisenberg's character in the movie Yeah,
Speaker 4: why to make you sad?
Speaker 8: Because you looked sad while talking.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how emotional I was.
Speaker 8: You looked so sad you came home and I was like,
Speaker 8: do you need a hug?
Speaker 2: And I'm like why.
Speaker 4: See, sometimes when I do reviews, I just like I
Speaker 4: have to go off raw emotion. That is how I
Speaker 4: based a lot of my reviews. And that one we
Speaker 4: left the theater and I felt weird that something was
Speaker 4: so oddly specific to me in a movie about just
Speaker 4: like my personality and stuff I've been like dealing with,
Speaker 4: like my whole life. And I think when I sat
Speaker 4: down to record that review, I was like, this is
Speaker 4: gonna kind of feel like a therapy session because it's
Speaker 4: stuff I've I mean, I've talked to you about that,
Speaker 4: and maybe not in that explicit way, just because I
Speaker 4: just thought that was something that only I dealt with.
Speaker 4: But seeing somebody else go through that of just that
Speaker 4: feeling of like wanting to be more outgoing, wanting to
Speaker 4: connect with people more, and I was like, man, this
Speaker 4: movie just hit me and I didn't know how. I
Speaker 4: didn't really know what that movie was going to be
Speaker 4: about about their entire journey of like being close and
Speaker 4: then kind of being estranged, going back for a really
Speaker 4: dark reason after their grandma died, and then you have
Speaker 4: all the other emotions mixed in with why they are
Speaker 4: there going to that concentration camp, and just like, man,
Speaker 4: where's this movie going? But there's a also like some
Speaker 4: fun moments in it, some really good bonding moments, and
Speaker 4: I think it's characters, yeah, and it's yeah, like a
Speaker 4: really unique just blend of people. And it doesn't feel
Speaker 4: like a traditional movie in the sense that it's not
Speaker 4: like a this happens, therefore, this happens, Therefore this happens.
Speaker 4: Here's the rising act, here's the fault. It doesn't really
Speaker 4: follow that. It just felt like a movie about life.
Speaker 4: And I enjoy those movies every now and then. It's
Speaker 4: a nice little slice of life that you go through
Speaker 4: something from beginning to end. It's not so much that
Speaker 4: you follow this character's journey and they accomplish something amazing.
Speaker 4: It's just like you feel all these things. That was
Speaker 4: my best What what did you rate Wicked Again? You
Speaker 4: gave it a five out of five? I think so,
Speaker 4: I think you gave it a five out of five
Speaker 4: when we did it, because I gave it a four
Speaker 4: point five out of five because it was split into
Speaker 4: two for a real pain. I gave that one a
Speaker 4: four point five out of five, and so forth for
Speaker 4: the year, I have not given out a five out
Speaker 4: of five.
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