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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, everybody appreciate

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Speaker 2: you rolling with us. It's a few notes one well,

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Speaker 2: first about the show today. We've got Andy McCarthy bottom

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Speaker 2: of this hour on Jack Smith, the special counsel. His

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Speaker 2: Hail Mary, intended to well be the primary legal salvo

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Speaker 2: against Donald Trump if he can get his way. We

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Speaker 2: shall see if in fact that works out the way

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Speaker 2: that he is hoping it will. We also will have

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson with us in the third hour of the program,

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Speaker 2: and he is going to be talking to us about

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Speaker 2: the new Tucker Carlson Network that he has launched, which

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Speaker 2: we're excited about. He's got a whole lot of other

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Speaker 2: stuff to weigh into today as well, especially as we're

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Speaker 2: talking to all the politics here. Just want to make

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Speaker 2: a note of something Clay brought to my attention Carol Swain,

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Speaker 2: who we are going to reach out to. She is

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Speaker 2: a doctor, Carol Swain. She is a black female academic

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Speaker 2: who is the person whose work has been allegedly stolen

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Speaker 2: by the president of Harvard. She gave an interview to

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Speaker 2: Chris Rufo. So again hat tip Chris Rufo doing good

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Speaker 2: work here. And this is what she said. What is

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Speaker 2: bothering me is not just that there's passages she didn't

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Speaker 2: put in quotation marks. When I look at her work,

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Speaker 2: I feel like her whole research agenda, her whole career

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Speaker 2: was based on my work. It bothers me because I

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Speaker 2: know that my work was a big deal in the

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Speaker 2: early nineteen nineties and started falling out of favor in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five when I started criticizing race based affirmative action.

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Speaker 2: I thought affirmative action should be means tested and race neutral.

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Speaker 2: When I started putting those ideas out when I that's

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Speaker 2: when I started falling out of favor, labeled a conservative

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Speaker 2: even while I was a Democrat, and Blacks started attacking

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Speaker 2: me and calling me a sellout. So the person whose

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Speaker 2: work appears uncited in doctor Gay's work from Harvard, doctor

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Speaker 2: Carl Swayin here is saying, Clay, it's even worse than

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Speaker 2: just taking some of my passages. It's like she based

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Speaker 2: her entire academic agenda on what I had already done.

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Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing now, But she played the game and stayed

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Speaker 2: in the good graces of the left. So she became

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Speaker 2: the president of Harvard effectively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, I'll give her a credit too.

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Speaker 1: I love this place. Met my wife there, Vanderbilt Law School.

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Speaker 1: She finished her career as a professor at Vanderbilt University,

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Speaker 1: both in polysci and in the law school. So Carol swayin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is why I said in the first hour, Buck,

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Speaker 1: whatever I think Claudine Gay should be should be roundly

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Speaker 1: ridiculed for the hypocrisy of her actions.

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Speaker 2: That is that she has been in.

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Speaker 1: Harvard ranked what two hundred and forty eight out of

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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty eight in free speech on campuses

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Speaker 1: in the I think.

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Speaker 2: The fire Review of overall issues.

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Speaker 1: They regularly ban different speakers that they don't like on

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Speaker 1: Harvard from being able to interact there, and then suddenly

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Speaker 1: they have a hugely expansive definition of the First Amendment.

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Speaker 1: I'm in favor of the definition that she put forward.

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Speaker 1: The problem is she hasn't lived by the methods and

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Speaker 1: details of that expansive definition of the First Amendment. And

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Speaker 1: if I were Jewish, I'll be sitting around saying, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, it's fine for everybody to be canceled. You

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Speaker 1: can get canceled if you use fat phobic language. You

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Speaker 1: can get canceled at Harvard if you use MicroG I

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Speaker 1: was just reading during the commercial break book. She rescinded

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Speaker 1: the offer to ten different kids because they didn't they

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Speaker 1: used memes she didn't like. There's a big Washington Post

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Speaker 1: story up about this. In twenty seventeen, she led the

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Speaker 1: charge to rescind young kids from being able to attend

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Speaker 3: So she's an.

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Speaker 2: Enforcer of wokeness. She's an extreme enforcer of wokeness atop

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Speaker 2: the most prestigious university in the world. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the one when you think of prestige university.

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Speaker 2: And that's not just I see people saying, Oh, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't even really matter that much. Kids from Beijing, kids

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Speaker 2: from Hyderabad, kids from all over Western Europe like that,

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Speaker 2: want to go there because it has this cachet, this prestige.

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Speaker 2: Same reason why even though Yale University is named for

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Speaker 2: to the Yalees and the audience who don't know. Although

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Speaker 2: there have been some mistakes made, there's no question in

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Speaker 2: the naming of some of these schools. But Yale's never

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Speaker 2: changing its name because the value is the name, the

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Speaker 2: value is the brand that it confers on people. Same

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Speaker 2: a it's not just that she's a DEI higher and

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Speaker 2: they say this, well, it's amazing when you talk about

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Speaker 2: DEI stuff, Clay, if someone who is left wing says, oh,

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Speaker 2: isn't this isn't this phenomenal. Look at this big win

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Speaker 2: for diversity, equity, and inclusion Harvard has with the hire

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Speaker 2: of this woman. And then somebody else comes along and says,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm opposed to DEI. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: the qualifications of this president of Harvard are, but I

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Speaker 2: for the following reasons because they're celebrating it. They say,

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Speaker 2: you're not allowed to do that. You are you are

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Speaker 2: to celebrate equity and not speak of equity. You are

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Speaker 2: to celebrate diversity and not speak of diversity. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these rules are Soviet feeling. The whole thing is just

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Speaker 2: do what I want. There's no rules other than what

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Speaker 2: I say totally, which is.

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Speaker 1: What and it's totally the opposite of everything that an

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Speaker 1: educational institution should stand for, which is to question everything.

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Speaker 1: The only I think the only reason to go to

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Speaker 1: now there are exceptions. Right, if you are going to

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Speaker 1: be an expert in let's say the hard sciences, right, uh,

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Speaker 1: and you really need to get that additional knowledge. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to go for the humanities, I'm

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Speaker 1: a history major, what you are a polycy major? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: If you're going to go for something in our fields

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Speaker 1: where you basically study and try to you're basically learning

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Speaker 1: modern global life. If those tools are being used primarily

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Speaker 1: to propagandize you and not to challenge your thinking, but

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Speaker 1: to insist that you must believe something that's the opposite

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Speaker 1: of education, you're not actually gaining anything. And so this

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Speaker 1: is why the first hour Buck I said, I I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let my kids pick where they go to school

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Speaker 1: where they get in. I do want them to go

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Speaker 1: to college, but increasingly this idea of oh, you have

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Speaker 1: those schools have merit right. It's that it's super difficult

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Speaker 1: to get in. You have to be very smart. If

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Speaker 1: they're propaganda outlets as opposed to educational institutions, the value

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Speaker 1: of their degree is being diminished immeasurably. And I'm reminded

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Speaker 1: also with this controversy around doctor gay at Harvard.

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Speaker 2: Remember the white woman. I don't even know her name

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Speaker 2: offhand because we all know she wasn't get around long

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Speaker 2: not like the rules aren't being made very clear for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Some people have invincibility, special protection, they're unfireable, and some

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Speaker 2: people aren't. Based on immutable characteristics that the left fields

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Speaker 2: society today. The rebalancing of this and the equity and

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Speaker 2: inclusion of this and all the rest of it. I

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Speaker 2: remember Larry Summers, the former Treasury secretary, was the president

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Speaker 2: you know, particularly controversial I think in some circles because

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Speaker 2: he was reciting, you know, research that was done of this.

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Speaker 2: But he was citing the difference in male and female

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Speaker 2: he basically said, look, I mean maybe men just tend

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Speaker 2: in standardized testing, women tend to have on average a

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Speaker 2: stronger verbal and communication ability, and men on standardized tests,

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Speaker 2: on average, tend to be better at math and you know,

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Speaker 2: spatial awareness, geometry things. Well, am I am I getting

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Speaker 1: No, no, I was talking about this last week. You

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Speaker 1: I mean, I talk about this in athletics, like men

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Speaker 1: what happens some woman's like, I'm stronger than my husband. Okay,

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Speaker 1: your individual comparison with another individual doesn't invalidate the average.

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Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right. Women tend to be better

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Speaker 1: at verbal acuity. Men tend to be better at mathematical learning.

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Speaker 2: And that's a reality. There are those to any of them. This,

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Speaker 2: the way, I'm bad at math, most of the women

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Speaker 2: So to your point, Clay, like, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not great at math, I'm not great at math either,

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Speaker 1: worthy exception, I'm far better at verbal Probably not a

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Speaker 2: Analytics on math side of the spectrum. So so people,

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Speaker 2: you know, ladies in the audience, please don't start tweeting

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Speaker 2: at me quadratic equations. You win, I'll get in my house.

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Speaker 1: My wife would dunk on me in mathematical ability, I

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Speaker 2: Be the case. Who wins a ten k. If you

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Speaker 2: guys have to run tomorrow, Oh she would, I'd like,

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Speaker 1: I hate just running outside over and over again. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Carrie would smoke me in a ten k two.

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Speaker 2: But when that ketchup bottles really hard to open, boom

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Speaker 1: I would win on a bench press. And if you're

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Speaker 1: dating a woman who would beat you on the bench press,

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Speaker 1: I would suggest that you better listen to her or

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Speaker 1: get to the gym a little bit, you know, also

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Speaker 1: do a little bit more time on the bitch. But

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Speaker 1: back to Larry Summers. I bring this up because he

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Speaker 1: was forced to step down over that.

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Speaker 2: So if you really want to understand the rules, white

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Speaker 2: saying is true as much as might upsetation does matter,

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Speaker 2: and he is pushed out and forced to step down.

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Speaker 2: Black female president of Harvard says, you know, sometimes people

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Speaker 2: got to call for genocide of their fellow students, like

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Speaker 2: depends on the context. After being the woke DEI enforcer

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Speaker 2: of like your nightmares. You know, oh you didn't use

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Speaker 2: the proper pronoun you're you know, you're gone. That's harassment.

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Speaker 1: Court of Appeals to hear it, which would be the

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Speaker 1: entire group sits and hears before he even had to

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Speaker 1: go to the Supreme Court. So there's actually another level

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Speaker 1: of a pel a pillot practice that I would imagine

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Speaker 1: he would take advantage of.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point, Clay, and it's not only true,

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Speaker 3: but we've seen it. Right. So, even though the DC

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Speaker 3: Circuit has eleven active judges, seven Democratic appointees, than for

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Speaker 3: Republican appointees. But somehow General Flynn, in his criminal case

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Speaker 3: in the District of Columbia, managed to pull a favorable

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Speaker 3: panel and it ruled in his favor and said that

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Speaker 3: the case against him had to be dismissed. So usually

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Speaker 3: these petitions for rehearing on bank are pretty routinely denied

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Speaker 3: by the Court of Appeals, but in that case, they

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Speaker 3: took it. So you're quite right, that added like another

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Speaker 3: month or so to the you know, to what it

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Speaker 3: took to decide all that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what's going on in your mind with what

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is doing here, because tell me why

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Speaker 1: you think that I could be misanalyzing this. I think

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, if they wanted to, could say I

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Speaker 1: looked at their calendar, Hey, we're going to have an

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Speaker 1: oral argument on this at the end of April. They

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Speaker 1: then would not release a ruling probably until the very

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Speaker 1: end of June when their term was up, And by

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Speaker 1: the time they did that, I think there would be

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Speaker 1: almost no chance of being able to get this trial started,

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Speaker 1: jury seated, everything else before we get to the election.

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Speaker 2: To me, that would be a way for the court to.

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Speaker 1: Basically not really get involved in politics analyze it. But

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Speaker 1: then they can say, hey, let people decide this trial

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Speaker 1: is not going to happen. So am I missing anything here?

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Speaker 1: What is the Supreme Court doing?

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Speaker 2: In your mind?

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Speaker 1: And if you were assessing this right now, what do

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Speaker 1: you think the likelihood is that this case starts on

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Speaker 1: March fourth? It seems highly unlikely to me that March

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Speaker 1: fourth start is going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, the report at least is that the Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: has indicated it will not it's not only taking the case,

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Speaker 3: but it will decide it expeditiously. And that is what

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Speaker 3: That's what Smith says he wants. And I the reason

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Speaker 3: I sort of put quotes around says or emphasis is

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Speaker 3: you know he could lose in the Supreme Court. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: when the whole case is done, then basically right, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: And this is it's an interesting issue. It's never been

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Speaker 3: decided by the Supreme Court. They've ruled that the president

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Speaker 3: has immunity from civil lawsuits. They've indicated that they would

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Speaker 3: probably come out the opposite way on criminal liability. But

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Speaker 3: as I argued in a column over the weekend, the

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Speaker 3: difference is back in the time when they made that ruling,

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Speaker 3: we had a norm against political prosecutions in this country,

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Speaker 3: which I don't think holds anymore. Right, So I think

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Speaker 3: that I think Smith is making an error here myself,

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Speaker 3: and my advice is worth what he's paying for it, right.

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Speaker 3: But I think he'd have been better off because I

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Speaker 3: agree with you that the Supreme Court doesn't want any

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Speaker 3: part of a case that would enmesh it in the

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Speaker 3: politics of twenty twenty four if it could avoid it.

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Speaker 3: So I think Smith would have been better off getting

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Speaker 3: a decision from the DC Circuit, which highly likely would

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Speaker 3: be in his favor, and done expeditiously. And I think

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Speaker 3: at that point what the Court would have said is,

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Speaker 3: you know what we're we're not going to take the

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Speaker 3: case now, because now it would have been Trump appealing, right.

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Speaker 3: I think he would have said, we're not going to

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Speaker 3: take the case now, But if you know, if there's

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Speaker 3: a trial and Trump gets convicted and he goes through

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Speaker 3: the appeal, we'll consider the whole thing then, including the immunity,

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Speaker 3: and that would get them out of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four box, right. And I also think Smith would have

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Speaker 3: a stronger hand if he went up to the Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court with a favorable ruling from the DC Circuit in

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Speaker 3: his pocket, which he's not going to have. On the

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Speaker 3: other hand, it's interesting to think about what's going on here.

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Speaker 3: It takes four votes of the nine to accept the case. Now,

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Speaker 3: because Smith is appealing, I imagine that the three progressive

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Speaker 3: judges on the Court would probably have been inclined to

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Speaker 3: agree with him and take the case. But I also

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Speaker 3: think there's a lot of people on the Court who

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Speaker 3: are not going to like this case at all, not

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Speaker 3: just the immunity issue, which in this day and age

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Speaker 3: where you have politicized prosecution, I think that may worry

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Speaker 3: them because the rationale for giving a president immunity from

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Speaker 3: civil suit I don't see any difference from criminal liability.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing is, I think Trump has always

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Speaker 3: wanted to get this case and from the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: because these four charges that Smith has brought to me

523
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Speaker 3: are very extravagant interpretations of law, and some of them

524
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Speaker 3: fly in the face of some Supreme Court authority. I

525
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Speaker 3: think there's going to be justices on this Court that

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Speaker 3: don't like this case and see that Bit is trying

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Speaker 3: to expedite it. Not for a reason a prosecutor is

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Speaker 3: supposed to Act, which would be consistent with the law,

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Speaker 3: but for purely political purposes. You know, prosecute is not

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Speaker 3: supposed to worry about who's going to win the election

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Speaker 3: and whether he'll pardon himself and all that. That's not

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Speaker 3: a law enforcement concern. That's a political concern. So I

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Speaker 3: think there'll be a number of justices who are offended

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Speaker 3: by this. The trajectory of the jurisprudence. To me, it

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Speaker 3: makes it likely that they deny him immunity. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's a sure thing. And I think Smith

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Speaker 3: could very well lose this.

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Speaker 2: Case, and if that happens, it's game over, right Andy,

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Speaker 2: Just to be clear, if you're right, I mean, then

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Speaker 2: the whole DC case goes away. What do you I mean? Look,

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Speaker 2: I know we're asking for a lot here for you

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Speaker 2: to pull out the McCarthy crystal ball. Between now and

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Speaker 2: whenever this thing is, it's clear how it's all going.

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Speaker 2: How do you think the DC case is resolved one

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Speaker 2: way or another?

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Speaker 3: I think the likelihood this is not what I want

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Speaker 3: to happen, and I think there's a good chance it

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Speaker 3: won't happen this way. But if I know, gun to

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Speaker 3: my head, absolutely what I think will happen. I think

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Speaker 3: the court decides either five to four or six to

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Speaker 3: three that Trump does not have immunity. They do it

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Speaker 3: expeditiously enough that Chucken can Judge Chuckkin can have her

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Speaker 3: trial on March fourth. And I'm afraid what happens is

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Speaker 3: after a two to three month trial in DC, which

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Speaker 3: is a hostile jury pool with a hostile judge, Trump

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Speaker 3: gets convicted on at least one of the four counts,

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Speaker 3: and then we're going to be you guys and I

558
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Speaker 3: are going to be sitting around scratching our heads wondering

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Speaker 3: does he get sentenced to prison? Because if he gets

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Speaker 3: convicted on one of these counts, it's probably the sentencing

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Speaker 3: guidelines are probably going to call for a sentence of

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Speaker 3: some incarceration. Usually a defendant gets sentenced three months after

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Speaker 3: the jury rules, and the preference in federal law is

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Speaker 3: that a defendant who's convicted and sentenced to a term

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Speaker 3: of imprisonment has to be remanded pending appeal. And the

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Speaker 3: only way that you can get around that is if

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Speaker 3: the judge says, I believe there's some you know, profound

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Speaker 3: error or question in this record that would possibly, uh

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Speaker 3: you know bode wealth hit for Trump on appeal. District

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Speaker 3: judges who've tried cases don't like to signal to the

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Speaker 3: Court of Appeals that there's a big error in their record.

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Speaker 1: So it'd be you think they would put him in

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Speaker 1: costs if he were convicted and basically put him in

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Speaker 1: prison pending appeal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how that would work, Lay, because

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Speaker 3: we've never had a situation that I know of where

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Speaker 3: you had a secret service propemy. So you know, they

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Speaker 3: could give him home confinement. They could come up with

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Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But in the middle of the election though, because we're

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Speaker 1: talking about this conviction, if it happened coming down, you know,

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Speaker 1: June or July right under this timeframe, if they started

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Speaker 1: on March four, they.

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Speaker 3: I'd say, May, yeah, late May, early June.

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Speaker 1: Right, by the way, can you come back with us

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Speaker 1: for one quick hit, because we didn't even ask you

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Speaker 1: about Hunter Biden. But I'm curious what you think of

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Speaker 1: the charges that were brought against Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get into that in a second. I

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Speaker 3: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck Bodjazz.

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Speaker 1: Quick turnback here close out hour number two. Remember Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carlson's gonna be with us in the third hour Klay

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Speaker 1: Travis Bucks Exton show. Right now, we've got Andy McCarthy

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Speaker 1: with us. Andy, your take on the Hunter Biden indictments

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Speaker 1: three felony, six misdemeanors tax related charges out of California

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Speaker 1: is what and where do we go from here?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think the indictment has everybody's attention on the

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Speaker 3: salacious details of how he spent the money, whereas the

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Speaker 3: important thing for national security and you know, national interests

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Speaker 3: is how they generated the money, which it seems to

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Speaker 3: me that the prosecutor has tried to stay not only

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Speaker 3: stay clear of, but dragged his feat to bring the

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Speaker 3: charges because a lot of the most egregious behavior happened

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Speaker 3: between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen when Joe Biden was

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Speaker 3: vice president. Those that activity is now beyond the statute

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Speaker 3: of limitations and can't be charged. So, you know, there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of very interesting stuff about Hunter, but I

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Speaker 3: think Hunter's kind of a side show in this except

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Speaker 3: to the extent that this shows how hard the Biden

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Speaker 3: Justice Department worked to protect the president. And the big

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Speaker 3: issue to me is what did those foreign regimes, corrupt regimes,

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Speaker 3: anti American regimes, what did they think they were getting

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Speaker 3: by pouring twenty four million dollars into the Biden family

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Speaker 3: caffers for over a five year period.

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Speaker 2: Where do you think that where do you think it goes? Andy?

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Speaker 2: Does Hunter just end up getting pardoned either you know,

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Speaker 2: right before he'd be incarcerated or right after the election

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Speaker 2: or what?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'd be after the election, But I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people observe to me that like,

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Speaker 3: nothing's going to happen here. And the only the only

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Speaker 3: thing I would say about this is if you go

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Speaker 3: back to the to the House investigation that began in January,

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Speaker 3: based on a lot of hard work by Senators Grassley

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Speaker 3: and Johnson and all that testimony from the whistleblowers. This

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Speaker 3: has been very damaging to the president, really damaging.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicole's do show. Biden is really floundering. So something's

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Speaker 2: up for sure, Clay. Do you want to talk some

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Speaker 2: smack about the Jets or something? They only got like

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Speaker 2: twenty seconds? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, Andy, what did you think? By the way, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we've mentioned it on the show. What do

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Speaker 1: you think about the seven hundred million that show Hey

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Speaker 1: got for the Dodgers. Good move, bad move by the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was insane, But I understand that

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Speaker 3: Dodgers make it. You know, they have some like streaming rights,

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Speaker 3: the television rights that Japan which like goes crazy every

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Speaker 3: time he plays, So they're gonna make if they're gonna

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Speaker 3: make effect just in the CD must.

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Speaker 1: It is pretty wild. Congrats on the Jets. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: that your Mets are never gonna win anything ever that matters.

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Speaker 2: Again, he's Andy McCarthy. Wow, we love you. Andy. Don't

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Speaker 2: listen to this