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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are rolling

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Speaker 1: with all of you. Thursday edition of the program. I

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Speaker 1: have joined Buck in the Free State of Florida. I'm

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Speaker 1: in the northern part of Florida. He is in the

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Speaker 1: the Panhandlebuck, and I know you talked about when you

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Speaker 1: I Love you, Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: Audience in all of America. So this is fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm in Panama City Beach for the next couple of

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Speaker 1: days and we are monitoring a bunch of different stories

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Speaker 1: that are out there. President Trump is as we speak,

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Speaker 1: I believe, unless something has happened in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes on a phone call with Vladimir Putin, Trump

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Speaker 1: is Buck. He's feeling it. You know, when you you

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Speaker 1: know you got the role going a little bit. Maybe

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Speaker 1: The governor of Illinois.

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Speaker 2: But you have that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're on the crabs table and the roles are

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Speaker 1: But President Trump is feeling it right now. He's got

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Speaker 1: the peace agreement in the Middle East and he now

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see what his negotiating lever is. We

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Speaker 1: the way to get peace is to make Russia fear

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Speaker 1: Those consequences can be economic as it comes to oil

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we should dive into some of the specifics here.

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Speaker 2: We have rare earth minerals here, we haven't been mining them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's build on that to what extent is

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Speaker 2: I do not. I think that Putin will make noise

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how far deep down this rabbit hole

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Speaker 1: I think it comes down to fear. I think the

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Speaker 1: And Trump has recognized it. He's put the pressure on India. Now,

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Speaker 1: And if you just give all that money to Ukraine

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Speaker 2: have the World War two all of the above. What

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Speaker 2: We don't have that economy anymore, for understandable reasons. But

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Speaker 4: There, right, Chris Bion, I'm on Pool who has a

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Speaker 1: What percentage of her professional success is related to her accent?

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Speaker 1: If she talked like you or me, not bad voices

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Speaker 2: Would she be seventy five percent less successful in her career? Oh,

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Speaker 1: This is a weird not even it's not even past

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, If these guys actually spoke like everybody again,

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Speaker 2: John Oliver had a Southern accent, he would have no career.

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Speaker 2: What's funny to me is I've tried to go to

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Speaker 2: But you can't even you don't even code switch though.

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Speaker 1: I want to even do it. I'm helping people get

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Speaker 2: Now back to Christiana, very fancy, but also very sorry

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Speaker 6: Hamas has subjected them to over two long years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the first the first version was what she really thinks,

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Speaker 2: just to be correct. The apology was by CNN corporate

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Speaker 2: leadership saying, you moron, we don't want to have to

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Speaker 2: fire you after thirty years of you being an overpaid,

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Speaker 2: you know, zero, But you better go out there and

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Speaker 2: clean this up right away. But she actually believed the

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Speaker 2: first thing that she said, because there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of people who have adopted this narrative of the gazas

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Speaker 2: the casualty. The real casualty figures for Gaza are something

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Speaker 2: like one percent of the overall population. That's the actual

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Speaker 2: ca So ninety nine percent of gausands in a so

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Speaker 2: called genocide and starvation scenario, ninety nine percent of them

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Speaker 2: are are not. We're not in any way killed or casual.

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Speaker 1: The one percent is also important here, Buck, It's because

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Speaker 1: Homosages was using.

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Speaker 2: Them human shields, human shields, so it's not the number.

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Speaker 1: And look, Israel is imperfect, as everyone is in a

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Speaker 1: time of war. But this was probably the most targeted

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Speaker 1: attack on bad guys that we have ever seen in

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Speaker 1: the history of modern warfare, of warfare at all.

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Speaker 2: Remember, look at what they did in Iran. Some of

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Speaker 2: the things that they did.

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Speaker 1: They went into apartment buildings and took out Iranian leaders

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Speaker 1: in the nuclear arms race and didn't even hit the

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Speaker 1: rest of the apartment. So when they're out there saying,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, all these people are innocent being killed.

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Speaker 1: Some innocent people are killed in times of war. That

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Speaker 1: is unfortunate, that is a reality. But that's an intentional

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Speaker 1: move by Hamas because they put so many of their

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Speaker 1: facilities under hospitals, under schools, in places so they can

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Speaker 1: point and say, no, there's nothing wrong here. Remember Buck

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Speaker 1: in the early days, remember when every newspaper put that

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Speaker 1: Israel had hit a hospital, and then it came out

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Speaker 1: that it was actually Hamas that hit it, and it

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Speaker 1: just kind of van Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, this also, though, is a reminder when we want

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Speaker 2: to talk about the moral clarity with which people should

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Speaker 2: look at this conflict. They could have avoided a single

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Speaker 2: Palestinian casualty if Hamas just didn't do what it did,

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Speaker 2: didn't do October seventh, correct or even in the aftermath

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Speaker 2: of October seventh, the Hamas leadership. If the Palestinian people

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Speaker 2: have been like, you know what, you take these bumps

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Speaker 2: and do with them whatever you want. They're out and

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Speaker 2: we're giving you back your hostages, and you take our

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Speaker 2: Hamas leaders and try them and execute those that, you

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Speaker 2: know whatever, they would have saved a lot of civilian

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Speaker 2: casualties that way too. But they chose to fight after

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Speaker 2: starting the fight. If you start a fight and then

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Speaker 2: you choose to fight, you don't get to cry when

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Speaker 2: you lose the fight, which is exactly what has been

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Speaker 2: going on here the whole time.

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Speaker 1: By the way, President Trump just tweeted, we'll read this

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Speaker 1: maybe when we come back. He's been on the call

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Speaker 1: with Putin our whole show so far today, Buck, he

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Speaker 1: just hung up with Vladimir Putin, so he has been

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Speaker 1: talking for Putin. I mean we've been talking for an

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Speaker 1: hour and twenty minutes already. Before we started the show,

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Speaker 1: he was on the call with Putin. Well, hold on,

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Speaker 1: here we have I have just concluded my telephone conversation

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Speaker 1: with President Putin of Russia. Very productive one. President Putin

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Speaker 1: congratulated me in the United States on the great accomplishment

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Speaker 1: of peace in the Middle East, something that he said

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Speaker 1: has been dreamed about for centuries. I actually believe the

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Speaker 1: success in the Middle East will help in our negotiation

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Speaker 1: and attaining an end to the war with Russia Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: President Putin thanked First Lady of Milanya for her involvement

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Speaker 1: with children. Very appreciative, said this will continue. We also

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Speaker 1: spent a great deal of time talking about trade between

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Speaker 1: Russia and the United States when the war with Ukraine

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Speaker 1: is over. At the conclusion of the call, we agreed

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Speaker 1: there will be a meeting of our high level advisors

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Speaker 1: next week the United States.

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Speaker 2: Initial meetings will be led.

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Speaker 1: By Secretary of State Marco Rubio, together with various other

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Speaker 1: people to be designated a meeting location to be de termined,

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Speaker 1: and President Putin and I will then meet in an

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Speaker 1: agreed upon location Buddapest, Hungary to see if we can

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Speaker 1: bring this inglorious war between Russia and Ukraine to an end.

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Speaker 1: President Zelensky and I will be meeting tomorrow in the

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Speaker 1: Oval Office, where we will discuss my conversation with President

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Speaker 1: Putin and much more. I believe great progress was made

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Speaker 1: with today's telephone conversation. That is President Trump two minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: I hope President Trump is right. Let's see. That's I

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Speaker 2: think where we have to be. We'll continue to look

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Speaker 2: at the details to see if we can get a

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Speaker 2: One is some of you been saying that Fetterman voted

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Speaker 2: to keep the government open. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 2: these votes, and until there's agreement from the Democrat side,

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Speaker 2: it's really just a going through the motions gesture. But

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Speaker 2: in a recent vote, as I see here two days ago,

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Speaker 2: six senators did not vote to reopen the government, including

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Speaker 2: Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. So at least in a

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Speaker 2: recent one he didn't vote. Now, I guess he's been

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Speaker 2: vocally supportive of reopening the government as well. But you know,

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Speaker 2: let me see fetterman statement on the government is not

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Speaker 2: the reason the government is shut down. Look, the reality

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Speaker 2: is you got to get to sixty.

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe we've gotten to more than fifty

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Speaker 1: five or fifty six so far. I think they need

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Speaker 1: four more Democrats in order to open the government.

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Speaker 5: Path.

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Speaker 2: According to Fetterman, he voted yes to extend the ACA

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Speaker 2: tax credits, but he won't vote for the shuttering of

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Speaker 2: the government, so he voted in favor of House and

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Speaker 2: Centive Democrats alternative Continuing Resolution in the Demo. Anyway, whatever, guys,

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Speaker 2: he's gone in the middle of this one. There's been

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different votes here. I'm just trying to see. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he voted with the Democrats on this, but I guess

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Speaker 2: he says he wouldn't vote whatever. I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: like it.

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Speaker 1: I find Let me just say this, Eventually, the government

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Speaker 1: is going to reopen and we are going to run

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Speaker 1: unfortunately massive deficits for years. They're going to take a

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Speaker 1: lot of our money and they are going to continue

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Speaker 1: to spend it, and none of us are going to

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Speaker 1: be happy about it.

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Speaker 2: So I also want to throw this out there. If

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Speaker 2: anyone of you have done we have a lot of

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Speaker 2: California listeners, many of you have done the Catalina Island

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Speaker 2: Channel swim, please call in. I want to hear what

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Speaker 2: it's like. I look this up because I was wondering.

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Speaker 2: Also because to me, swimming at night you're generally advised.

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Speaker 2: I know, maybe I'm a little too freaked out about sharks. Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe we've established that I have a shark attack phobia

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Speaker 2: or something, but I've seen Jaws too many times. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I've seen all of them, and they get really bad

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Speaker 2: after Jaws too, I mean even Jaws. A lot of

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Speaker 2: money grabs going on. Yeah, yeah, they the Jaws movies.

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Speaker 2: Really they they sink to the bottom of the ocean,

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Speaker 2: if you ask me. But the reason they do it

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Speaker 2: at night Generally, you don't want to swim at night

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Speaker 2: because it's harder to find you rip tides and also sharks,

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Speaker 2: sharks and more active feeding at night. But the reason

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Speaker 2: they do it is because of all the heavy boat traffic,

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Speaker 2: boat boat traffic exactly so, which is even a bigger

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Speaker 2: risk to swimmers because there's a lot of boats that

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Speaker 2: any problems with that. So that's why they do it

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Speaker 2: at night. Okay, clarified that the feederman vote thing sounds

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Speaker 2: like he's trying to play a little bit of both

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Speaker 2: sides on it. But nonetheless, uh, that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: So with that, sir, I wanted to where you wanted

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Speaker 2: to dive into your boy mom.

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Speaker 1: Donnie was on with here Martha McCall yesterday afternoon on

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Speaker 1: Fox News.

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Speaker 2: Not born in America, so cannot be president. Glad we clarified.

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Speaker 2: I had forgotten that he was Dan. Yep, you know

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Speaker 2: I actually randomide side note here, I had a good

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Speaker 2: friend in college who was Ugandan and he uh, his

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Speaker 2: father came home one day and said, pack a bag

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Speaker 2: to his family, to his two sons and his wife,

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Speaker 2: pack a bag right now, we are going to the airport.

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Speaker 2: And his uh. His father was a lawyer in Uganda

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Speaker 2: at the time of Idiomanes reign as president, but really

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Speaker 2: as dictator, right, he was effectively the dictator of Uganda

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Speaker 2: who was making perceived enemies disappear. And the story that

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Speaker 2: again my friend told me, was that his father showed

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Speaker 2: up to the law firm late one day he had

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Speaker 2: some other business or whatever, and all the partners had

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Speaker 2: been detained and disappeared. Yeah. Wow yeah.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Uganda, if you have I've told you, Hey,

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Speaker 1: he and the family got out of it.

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Speaker 2: They got out. Yeah, he made it out. You knew him.

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Speaker 2: His dad became a professor in this country. They by

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Speaker 2: the way, actual refugees right right, actual asylum seeker slash

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Speaker 2: refugee situation. That's what it's for. It's for someone's trying

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Speaker 2: to kill me just because I, you know, am like

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Speaker 2: an educated member of the political opposition. Will you please

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Speaker 2: take in my family? It is not hey, I just

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Speaker 2: crossed the border and I want to make more money

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Speaker 2: slash get access to your welfare anyway.

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Speaker 1: But if you have on the Uganda front, sorry to

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Speaker 1: remind you, Mamdanni's middle name is Quame. Remember we talked

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Speaker 1: about this, and he tried to pretend that he was

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Speaker 1: black for purposes of or mixed race for purposes of

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Speaker 1: his Colombia application when he clicked African American on the A.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have stopped talking about that,

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Speaker 1: but he did that because he was born in Uganda

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Speaker 1: and his middle name, he's Zorn Quame, mom Donnie, and

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Speaker 1: so he was hoping I think that the admissions counselors

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Speaker 1: would think, oh, how many Quames from Africa are not

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Speaker 1: partly black, and that he would help him get into Colombia,

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Speaker 1: which did not work.

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Speaker 2: By my Ugandan friend was most certainly black and uh

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Speaker 2: yes and uh yes uh and he fled. And I

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Speaker 2: would say, if you have not seen last King of Scotland.

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Speaker 2: That is a which deals with this. It's a fictionalize

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Speaker 2: but it degrees with with Idioman and what it was

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Speaker 2: like under his reign. And it is a It is

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Speaker 2: a great movie, underrated I think, and kind of forgotten now,

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Speaker 2: but a really really good watch.

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Speaker 1: Although the Christ Whitaker is the star in that movie, right,

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Speaker 1: really really he plays I also think later, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think of as an underrated actor in general.

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Speaker 2: Also, I think Forrest Whittaker. You know, people who know

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Speaker 2: know that he's actually really good, really good actor, and

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Speaker 2: he was phenomenal in that role. But yeah, he's Yeah,

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Speaker 2: some of the scenes are you're will kind of traumatize you.

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Speaker 2: I kind of wish they actually had toned it down

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Speaker 2: a little bit with some of the brutality. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: it's a very very good movie and there we have it,

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Speaker 2: okay now. Zoron Mumdani born in Uganda. Zoron Mumdani. Here

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Speaker 2: he is. When he sat down with Martha McCallum. She

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Speaker 2: got the exclusive yesterday to sit down with him on Fox.

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Speaker 2: And I will note that you're going to see Clay

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Speaker 2: More democrats who realize they have to do this now,

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Speaker 2: they have to be willing to sit down with not

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Speaker 2: puff media that's just going to tell them how amazing

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Speaker 2: they are because they don't have the same media ecosystem

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Speaker 2: dominance that they used to. So you're going to have

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Speaker 2: to go in and talk to people at Fox News.

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Speaker 2: You're increasingly I'm not saying it's going to be everywhere,

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Speaker 2: but you're going to see more of this. Look, Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom has been doing it, obviously because he wants to.

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Speaker 2: He does want to run for president. But he was asked.

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Speaker 2: Rammdani was asked about Hamas and whether they should lay

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Speaker 2: down their arms. This is cut twenty two. This is

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Speaker 2: what he said.

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Speaker 5: I have no issue with critiquing Hamas or the Israeli

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Speaker 5: government because my critiques all come from a place of

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Speaker 5: universal human rights. And my focus, however, is right here

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Speaker 5: in New York City and transforming the most expensive city

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Speaker 5: in America into one that's affordable for each and ever

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Speaker 5: New Yorker.

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Speaker 8: But okay, and I want to get to that absolutely,

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Speaker 8: But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their

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Speaker 8: weapons and leave the leadership in Gaza?

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Speaker 5: I believe that any future here in New York City

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Speaker 5: is one that we have to make sure that's affordable

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Speaker 5: for all, and as it pertains to Israel and Palestine

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Speaker 5: that we have and sure that there is peace, and

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Speaker 5: that is the future that we have to fight for.

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Speaker 8: But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their

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Speaker 8: arms and give up leadership in Gaza.

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Speaker 5: I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas

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Speaker 5: and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety and

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Speaker 5: the fact that anything has to abide by international law,

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Speaker 5: and that applies to Hamas, that applies to Israeli military,

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Speaker 5: applies to anyone.

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Speaker 2: You could ask me about Clay. It sounds a little

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Speaker 2: bit like Abigail Spanberger being asked about the trans issue,

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Speaker 2: where you hear a bunch of words but you don't

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Speaker 2: get much of an answer.

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Speaker 1: Martha is, I think one of the best interviewers in news,

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Speaker 1: and that's a very direct question. Should the terror organization

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Speaker 1: lay down their arms or not so we can have

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Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East. That's effectively what Martha is asking,

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Speaker 1: and he, to your point, went full Abigail Spanburger and

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Speaker 1: just talked his way out of having to answer that question. Look, mom,

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Speaker 1: Donnie is really glib, He is really articulate. He is

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Speaker 1: a handsome guy. He's way better at saying nothing than

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Speaker 1: Abigail Spamberger is, and he smiles, and he knows how

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Speaker 1: to play the television game. And I am glad that

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Speaker 1: he was born in Uganda because earlier, when you were

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Speaker 1: talking about it, I've thought through this. He would one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent have an American presidential future in his horizon

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Speaker 1: if he had been born in the United States, because

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Speaker 1: he is that good at being disarming. He's wrong about everything,

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Speaker 1: I want to be clear, wrong about everything, but talks

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Speaker 1: a good game. And there are a lot of people

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Speaker 1: out there that if you smile. I have talked about

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Speaker 1: this with people on television for years. You can deliver

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Speaker 1: absolute missiles if you smile while you're do it. And

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Speaker 1: if the better looking you are, the more you can

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Speaker 1: get away with it. I joked about this with Tommy Laren,

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Speaker 1: who works it out kick go listen to some of

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Speaker 1: the some of the bullets that Tommy Larn metaphorically is firing.

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Speaker 1: But she is so good at smiling while she does it,

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Speaker 1: and she is gutting people and.

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Speaker 2: They don't even realize it. And Mom Donnie is a handsome,

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Speaker 2: good looking, telligenic.

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Speaker 1: Disciple of all the wrong messaging, but he does it

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Speaker 1: so well that a lot of people just don't even

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Speaker 1: recognize what he's arguing. And then there are other things

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Speaker 1: that really appeal to young people. Hey, groceries are too expensive.

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Speaker 1: Why doesn't the city of New York just run its

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Speaker 1: own grocery store and then everything will be cheaper. Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: rent's really expensive. We should just freeze rent. That'll solve

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Speaker 1: all the problems. When you lack basic echon knowledge, you

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Speaker 1: come up with lots of answers to challenging situations that

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Speaker 1: actually make the challenging situation worse. But they have the

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Speaker 1: illusion of success for people who are often too young

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Speaker 1: or too ignorant to recognize that they're going to end

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Speaker 1: up in a worse shape. You know who doesn't get

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Speaker 1: frozen buck mortgage, the mortgages that the landlords have to pay,

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Speaker 1: like their rates of payments don't get helped.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all broken. You're leading right into what

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Speaker 2: I wanted to dive into, which is as somebody who

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Speaker 2: lived in New York and had to deal with I

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Speaker 2: mean I was like thirty and had four roommates, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is it's a very tough place to

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Speaker 2: make it go. Of it. But the reasons for it

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Speaker 2: are not lack of government intervention. The reasons for it

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Speaker 2: are largely I would argue government doing too many things

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Speaker 2: the wrong way and thinking that it can just create

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Speaker 2: by Fiat market conditions, right, and then those market conditions

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Speaker 2: that actually exist after the government intervention happens are the same

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Speaker 2: thing in California housing. By the way, California, it's like,

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Speaker 2: why is housing so expensive? Why is a house so

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Speaker 2: expensive in California. Well, it's because there's all these regulations

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Speaker 2: and all these permits and all these things that go

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Speaker 2: into the process. You know, recently they did an analysis

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Speaker 2: clay and I think it was in Canada, another very

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Speaker 2: liberal place, right left wing place, and something like fifty

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Speaker 2: percent of the cost of a new house in Canada

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Speaker 2: is purely regulation, taxes and permits fifty percent. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you looked at what it is in California. Remember

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Speaker 2: when they were going to build a million dollar porta

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Speaker 2: potty essentially, I think it was in San Francisco. They

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Speaker 2: were going to spend a million dollars on a public,

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Speaker 2: single occupancy bathroom. Everybody that's a porta potty. How do

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Speaker 2: you spend a million dollars on a porta potty California. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the newsom has an answer for you. New York City,

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Speaker 2: twenty percent of New Yorkers, something like a one point

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Speaker 2: four million people are in subsidize almost free, depends on

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Speaker 2: which conversation subsidize housing. And then they make it very

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Speaker 2: expensive and very difficult to create new housing. Guess what

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Speaker 2: this makes market conditions where everything is priced here. The

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Speaker 2: two percent surcharge that Mamdannie says he's going to charge

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Speaker 2: on incomes to make life less expensive for people is

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Speaker 2: a joke. It is not even scratching at the problem.

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Speaker 1: It also reminds me of your bathroom analogy. You remember

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Speaker 1: when they were gonna build a nationwide network of charging

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Speaker 1: stations for all the vehicles, and then the numbers came

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Speaker 1: out that they had spent billions of dollars and somehow

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Speaker 1: added like seven charging stations. The government can't do anything

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Speaker 1: efficiently or effectively, which is why we need to get

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Speaker 1: the government out of as much as we possibly can.

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Speaker 1: We'll play a couple more of these Donnie kuts, because

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Speaker 1: I do think they're very significant. Also, we got Obama

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Speaker 1: coming in to the Virginia governor's race, and I saw

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Speaker 1: this aoc on masculinity. But also, Buck, did you see

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Speaker 1: that AI articles now make up the majority of articles

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Speaker 1: published on the internet already, just in the two years

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Speaker 1: that AI has taken off.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the book industry, which you and

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Speaker 2: I are still in for what it's worth. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's going to happen now. It's gone from ghostwriters

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Speaker 2: to AI writers. Is what you're going to see. I

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Speaker 2: can tell you I wrote my book, and I know

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Speaker 2: Clay wrote his book. Because I know the people in

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Speaker 2: the publishing industry who are reading these things. That's unfortunately

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Speaker 2: going to become a vanishingly small number of books that

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Speaker 2: you're actually able to buy, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Look, next week, I'm going to be in New York

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We've got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different stories that we are chasing.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: President Trump had a multi hour long call with Vladimir Putin.

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Speaker 1: The impact of that call, according to President Trump's statements,

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Speaker 1: are that there will be a meeting between Trump and

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Speaker 1: Putin in Budapest and that there will be a meeting

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Speaker 1: very soon between high level advisors the United States. Initial

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Speaker 1: meeting will be led, according to President Trump, by Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State Marco Rubio, and a meeting location to be determined.

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Speaker 1: So the goal there to try and end the war

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Speaker 1: that is taking place right now in Ukraine. President Trump

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Speaker 1: writing a great deal of momentum off of the release

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Speaker 1: of the hostages and the positive directions that things are

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Speaker 1: moving in that context. Now, we also have John Fetterman

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Speaker 1: potentially facing a Senate challenge for not being committed enough

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Speaker 1: to crazy left wing ideals.

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Speaker 2: That is according to an Axios report.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about Mom Donnie making his initial appearance

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Speaker 1: on Fox News, Martha McCollum asking the big questions of

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Speaker 1: Mom Donnie and Mom Donnie being frankly very good at

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Speaker 1: dodging responsibility for much of his public commentary. Now, he

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Speaker 1: did say, Buck, and I think we have this audio.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure we pull it up. He

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Speaker 1: did publicly apologize to police officers for saying that he

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Speaker 1: had previously said they should be defunded. He also said

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Speaker 1: it was too early to give Trump credit for the

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Speaker 1: Gaza peace deal, and so let me hit a couple

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Speaker 1: of those.

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Speaker 2: Here is cut twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Martha McCollum says, hey, does President Trump deserve credit for

868
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: the peace deal? And Mom Donnie said it's too early,

869
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: cut twenty three.

870
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 5: I continue to have concerns because I've seen reports still

871
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: just this in the last few days, that five Palestines

872
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 5: were killed by the Israeli military. And that's what gives

873
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 5: me pause about issuing any kind of praise or celebration

874
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: at a moment when it is still so in its infancy.

875
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 5: And what I will tell you is that in that

876
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: same moment, it is also one that requires a focus

877
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 5: on ensuring that that hope, that belief in a better

878
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 5: future is one that is emblematic in our policies right

879
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 5: here in New York City as well. And that's what

880
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: we're hoping to lead with Willie, would.

881
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 8: You give President Trump credit or not to any extent

882
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 8: credit or not.

883
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: I think it's too early to do so, too early

884
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: to say.

885
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 5: But if it proves to be something that is lasting,

886
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 5: something that is durable, then I think that that's where

887
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 5: you give credit.

888
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: Can I just one quick thing, Clay, because we talked

889
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: about it. He's saying, the five Palestinians were killed. Where

890
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: where's the outrage, where's the condemnation, or even just the

891
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: conversation about the public executions, you know, summary judgment and

892
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: execution of captives by Hamas that occurred in the last

893
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 2: twenty four hours. I mean they're they're they're bounding and gag,

894
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: I know, gagging, tying up, blindfolding, and shooting people in

895
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: the back of the head on the street. And there's

896
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't see any of these people that are so

897
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: concerned about gosins concerned about those gosins. It seems quite strange.

898
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also think it's funny the way this

899
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: is covered. Uh there's a big article in New York

900
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Times about Mom Donnie going on uh the Martha McCollums show.

901
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: Here's a couple of the paragraphs. This is how the

902
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: New York Times covered it. Since mister mom Donnie's rapid

903
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: rise to the top of New York City politics, Fox

904
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: News has led a right wing media effort to characterize

905
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: him as an avatar of the Democrat Party grown too

906
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: beholden to its factions on the far left. The network's

907
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: contributors often point to his thin political experience, past comments

908
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: about law enforcement and proposals to increase taxes on New

909
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: York's wealthiest residents as both disqualifying and dangerous to New

910
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: York City, America's largest financial center.

911
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: Yes, this is all very accurate.

912
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: And it's written as if it's like, Oh, my goodness,

913
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: can you believe all the crazy things they say on

914
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: Fox News about mom Donnie. He wants to tax everyone

915
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: who makes money in New York City into virtual oblivion.

916
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: So that is one star of the New York City

917
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: Democrat Party. Now the other star of the New York

918
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: City Democrat Party in New York City is AOC. And

919
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to play this for you, Buck. This was

920
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: last night Bernie Sanders and AOC had a town hall

921
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: with Caitlyn Collins and she was asked AOC was why

922
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: are Republicans successful on law and Uh, she said two

923
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: different things. One because uh, they we'll just listen to her.

924
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: I won't characterize it. Here's cut eighteen.

925
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 9: When they talk about Republicans and their success online. They

926
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 9: have been successful because they have also been very clear,

927
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 9: especially digitally, about what they believe. That women are inferior,

928
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 9: that do not and they do not deserve equal rights.

929
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 9: That they believe that lgbt Q Americans are subhuman, that

930
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 9: they believe and are circulating disgusting racial and and white

931
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 9: supremacist messaging, that they are able to get away with

932
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 9: digital digitally and.

933
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Online, get get away with this is they have no

934
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: hope for young men. I mean, I just wrote a

935
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: book it's coming out called Ball's Buck. But this is

936
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: this is not a good pitch. I just don't think

937
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: AOC is very aware of how the internet works. Based

938
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: on that answer, I want AOC to be the great

939
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: commie splainer of masculinity for the Democrats. I want her

940
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: to be out in the forefront telling all young men

941
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: because they have.

942
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: As Democrats would say, their lived experience. They have been

943
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: through men, particularly now in their twenties. They've been through

944
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: the COVID shutdowns and the complete eradication of free speech,

945
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: scientific inquiry, and everything else that the left manufactured during that.

946
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: They've been through the toxic masculinity talks. They've been through

947
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: CNN doing documentaries about how college campuses are quote like

948
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: hunting grounds for the constant sexual assaults and sexual abusers

949
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: that are other college students. That's what they're saying. They've

950
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: been through all of this, and they know that something

951
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: is really wrong with the Democrat Party. And if the

952
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: Democrat Party's response is going to be no, actually, your

953
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: toxic masculinity is the problem. Great, stay with that. Stay

954
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: on that. Democrats have AOC tell young men how they

955
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: should really feel about things, and if they don't agree

956
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: with her, it's because they're sexist and racist. Love it,

957
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: keep it going, Blast it from the rooftops. That's exactly

958
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: what she did in Cut nineteen buck. She's listening to you.

959
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: She's running the game plan Cut nineteen AOC last night

960
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: on CNN.

961
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 9: They are able to radicalize and target and exploit a

962
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 9: generation of young boys, in particular, away from healthy masculinity

963
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 9: and into an insecure masculinity that requires the domination of

964
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 9: others who are poorer, browner, darker, or a different gender

965
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 9: than them, and that is why they are resonating online,

966
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 9: because they are appealing to the most basist and worst

967
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 9: parts of human nature.

968
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: Toxic masculinity.

969
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: And I think about this all the time because I've

970
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: got three boys, and also because I just wrote the

971
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: book Book. But the Democrat brand it has become a

972
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: slur for young men. They will accuse each other of

973
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: being Democrats. Black men, white men, Asian men, Hispanic men,

974
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: teenage young men. I don't know how they come back

975
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: from this. I am very certain that it is not

976
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: by having a woman lecture young men that they are

977
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: actually toxic, because that's why they've left in the first place.

978
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: We don't talk ever. Have you ever heard anybody talk

979
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: about toxic femininity. Have you ever heard a huge national

980
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: discussion about how women are toxic and they are destroying

981
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: the country. Maybe we need to have that conversation because

982
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: liberal women are toxic and they are destroying the country.

983
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: But young men have been told their entire lives that

984
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: they are the problem. And this is me getting on

985
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: the soapbox because I think about this so much. Buck,

986
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 1: I see the world through the eyes of my kids.

987
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: You and I are roughly of the age, and a

988
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: lot of listeners are out there where we were raised

989
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: in the idea that men and women should both be

990
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: able to aspire to the apex of success, whatever it

991
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: might be. Become president, fud fly a plane, whatever you

992
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,959
Speaker 1: want to do, be an astronaut. Everyone should be able

993
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: to aspire to the apex to pursue the meritocracy to

994
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: the fullest extent of their ability. And I think everybody

995
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: out there nods along and says, yeah, that's good. Men,

996
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: women be the best, be the best that you can be.

997
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: There's a difference between be the best that you can be,

998
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: which I would say is the culture and era in

999
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: which you and I were raised and women are better

1000
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: than men. And sometime around and I don't know the

1001
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: exact year, but sometime around two thoy twelve ten fourteen,

1002
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: in that era of social media rising and Barack Obama,

1003
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: we moved from women and men should both be able

1004
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: to be as successful as they possibly can to men

1005
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: are bad. Certainly me too accelerated it and women are

1006
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: better than men. And we this is the era now

1007
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: that young men are being raised in and they're looking

1008
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: around and saying, why am I being blamed for everything?

1009
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: In America? Actually America is awesome first of all. Secondly,

1010
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: to a large degree, America is awesome because of brave

1011
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: men and women. But a lot of brave men and

1012
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: masculinity isn't toxic at all. And so that is I

1013
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 1: think the foundational issue that emerged in twenty twenty four,

1014
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: and Democrats don't seem capable of addressing it in any

1015
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: way that is going to be successful.

1016
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: I think it's getting worse for them. I think you

1017
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: could not have civilization as we have come to know

1018
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: it without men embracing their masculinity. Yes, I think that

1019
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: if it were not for men who were willing to

1020
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: put their lives on the line and lose their lives

1021
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: to fight for something bigger than themselves, if it were

1022
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: not for men who would spend the longest of hours

1023
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: and make tremendous personal sacrifice and in a sense give

1024
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: their lives in a different way to the pursuit of

1025
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: incredible inventions or exploration or technological advancement or building something,

1026
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: whether it's a skyscraper, a manufacturing plant, or a cathedral. Right,

1027
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: if it weren't for men willing to take masculinity in

1028
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: its different forms to the extreme or to its maybe

1029
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: its most appropriate you could argue level its highest level.

1030
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: Then we would not have a civilization that we enjoy

1031
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: right now, and that I think is for gotten or

1032
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: rather entirely suppressed by the angry and bitter feminist left,

1033
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: which has sadly tragically led an entire generation, really now

1034
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: a couple of generations of American women who buy into

1035
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: that stuff down a pathway that is not fulfilling, that

1036
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: is filled with bitterness and self pity, and is ultimately

1037
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: a bad life course. And this is just the reality

1038
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: that you see. I mean, I've said this before. I've

1039
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: had this talk with many people, including in my own family,

1040
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: that I think the sex and the city ification of

1041
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: American women has been horrendously undermining for their long term happiness.

1042
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: And I know they can say, oh, I'm man explaining

1043
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm a man, what do wh I know? You know,

1044
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: I'm in my forties. I've seen a lot, and I

1045
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: pay attention, and I actually want what's best for men

1046
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: and for women in this country. And there's been a

1047
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: huge departure from civilizational norms that are the basis for

1048
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: building our civilization, which is, of course family cohesion. It

1049
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: is male and female parental roles and spousal roles and

1050
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 2: roles within a civilization itself, within society, and we pay

1051
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: the price for that. And you can just see this

1052
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: all around, Clay. It's a very sad thing. We've talked

1053
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: with this in their day. I know so many women

1054
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: now because they're my age that I grew up with

1055
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: in New York who did this sort of eat, prey

1056
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: love through your twenties and thirties thing. And maybe they

1057
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: had some job in I don't know, you know, marketing

1058
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: or PR or advertising or something that they liked, but

1059
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: weren't really that invested in, not like a life's calling.

1060
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: They're not heart surgeons. And now they're unmarried. They look around,

1061
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: they don't have families. It's hard to start a family

1062
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: at that age. Biological reality kicks in. Being forty four

1063
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: year old woman, it's not easy to have kids. And

1064
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: they look around and they want someone to explain this

1065
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: to them, and unfortunately, the Democrats say it's men's fault, yes,

1066
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: and that's not true. So this is where we are.

1067
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if people can see it in some

1068
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: other lens or some other men are, but men, I

1069
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: think see this and say to themselves, I didn't cause this,

1070
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: And actually it was the people saying that toxic, that

1071
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: men are toxic, that convince women to go down this

1072
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: pathway where effectively they are trying to compete with and

1073
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: act as men in ways that are not going to

1074
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: be fulfilled. So there you go.

1075
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: I think that's all said, and I've spent a ton

1076
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: of time. I love this topic. This is a big

1077
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: part of the book. There's a difference between equality and sameness.

1078
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: You can treat everyone equal, but it doesn't mean that

1079
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: they're the same. And we spend so much time on

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Speaker 1: this idea to kind of build on what you said

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Speaker 1: and kind of maybe distill it a little bit. We

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Speaker 1: have told men they should be more like women, and

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Speaker 1: we have told women they should be more like men.

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Speaker 1: And the result is men don't like by and large,

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Speaker 1: women who act like men, and women do not like

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Speaker 1: men who act like women. And so when you're trying

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Speaker 1: to androgenize the sexes, you're actually driving everybody unhappily away

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Speaker 1: from each other. And to Buck's point, this is what

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Speaker 1: you end up with a lot of people who are

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Speaker 1: sitting around saying, wait a minute, I made all these

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Speaker 1: good choices, and I wanted to have kids and I

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Speaker 1: can't find a man.

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Speaker 2: It's the man's fault. That's where we are. And they

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Speaker 2: vote Democrat. And if I had to take a wild

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably in the thousands. He's so cute.

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