WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: The Most Important Changes You Can Make for a Fulfilling Relationship with Dave Rubin

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>A few episodes ago, I said that it's a cop

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<v Speaker 1>out to tell people that they should settle, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong advice to give. It's the nice advice.

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<v Speaker 2>It tells people that they are perfect just the way

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<v Speaker 2>they are, and their standards are simply too high, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's just generally not the case. There's a meme I

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<v Speaker 2>see shared a lot, especially around Valentine's Day. It says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm selfish, impatient, and a little insecure. I make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out of control and at times hard to handle.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you can't handle me at my worst, then

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<v Speaker 2>you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.

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<v Speaker 2>The line is attributed to Marilyn Monroe, though there's no

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<v Speaker 2>evidence Monroe I ever actually said it. Sometimes the quote

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<v Speaker 2>is just the last line, that you can't handle me

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<v Speaker 2>at my worst, and you sure as hell don't deserve me.

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<v Speaker 3>At my best.

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<v Speaker 2>It's usually accompanied by a picture of a smoking hot

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<v Speaker 2>Monroe oozing sex appeal and challenging anyone to not want

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<v Speaker 2>her even at her worst. But it's a deeply damaging idea.

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<v Speaker 2>For one thing, none of us are Marilyn Monroe for another.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that we don't need to change anything about

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves and are perfect just the way we are can

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<v Speaker 2>hinder finding a good partner and a healthy relationship. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact is, if you are perpetually single and can never

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<v Speaker 2>meet anyone, there are probably some things you can change

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<v Speaker 2>about yourself. And despite what your friends have told you

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<v Speaker 2>in Unison, it probably isn't that you're just too awesome

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<v Speaker 2>for all the people you meet, too good for them,

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<v Speaker 2>too beautiful, too handsome, too amazing. There's probably something about

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<v Speaker 2>you that is repelling potential mates. It doesn't mean you're

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible person or this can't be solved, something that

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be fixed.

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<v Speaker 3>Women get this.

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<v Speaker 1>Advice a lot, that you're just perfect just the way

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<v Speaker 1>you are and look. Men get a lot of terrible

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<v Speaker 1>advice too.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, but women are the ones who

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<v Speaker 2>are always getting assured that they're just super perfect and

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't possibly make changes to attract a mate. Assuming you

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<v Speaker 2>know whether or not you're a woman or a man,

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<v Speaker 2>you have good hygiene, are not hideous to look at,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Not hideous to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the fact, and have no obvious problems, no

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<v Speaker 2>substance abuse or weird tattoos on your neck. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is likely your personality. And if I may speculate a

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<v Speaker 2>bit further, it's almost definitely that you talk too much

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<v Speaker 2>about very little. If you're listening and you swear, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't smell bad, I look good. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I talk too much, It's time for a reality check.

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<v Speaker 3>There has to be one person in your life who

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<v Speaker 3>will be completely honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You need that person to tell you in a very

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<v Speaker 1>straightforward way, what you're doing wrong. It might not be

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<v Speaker 1>the amount you talk, but what you say. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about bodily.

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<v Speaker 2>Functions, ex girlfriends, men who hit on you constantly? An

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<v Speaker 2>esoteric hobby you have that if you know anything about

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<v Speaker 2>Do you take any experience or event and relate it

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<v Speaker 2>immediately back to yourself with a story, no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>short to match. Do people shake their heads a lot

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<v Speaker 2>when they're talking to you, even in a playful, oh

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of way. It goes back to the problem

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<v Speaker 2>that I talked about a few episodes ago, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that people don't know how to flirt. We don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to conversate. That's really what it is flirting is conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>If people say that's crazy a lot to you as

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking, you're not having a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>You're delivering a monologue.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't want you to settle, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to rearrange your personality to land a man or

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<v Speaker 1>a woman. No, I want you to rearrange your personality

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<v Speaker 1>so you can have a more fulfilling and interesting life,

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<v Speaker 1>the life you want. Everybody has the capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>To be boring or inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the keeping it in check that makes you not

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<v Speaker 2>annoying to be around. This isn't just for a mate,

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<v Speaker 2>it's for you. Those people playfully shaking their heads at

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<v Speaker 2>your ridiculous tales have no other response to your stories,

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<v Speaker 2>but perhaps they are your friends, family, co workers, and

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<v Speaker 2>so have learned to adapt. The person of your dreams

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<v Speaker 2>might not want to. The best version of a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>isn't for the other person to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Mmmm mmmmm mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for them to have something to say back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Give them something interesting to respond to, and they will.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next and interview with Dave Rubin. Join us

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<v Speaker 1>after the break, Hi, and welcome back to the Carol

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<v Speaker 1>Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is the amazing

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Rubin. Dave's host of The Ruben Report and co

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<v Speaker 1>founder of Locals.

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<v Speaker 3>So nice to have you on, Dave.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the amazing Dave Rubin. It sounds like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like a washed up magician or something. The Amazing watch

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<v Speaker 4>where he pulls the rabbit from.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to go with incredible, but that felt

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<v Speaker 1>like too much, you know, ah.

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<v Speaker 4>It is incredible, more over the top than amazing. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not quite sure. We leave that to the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, I think incredible is you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>we'll save that for your second interview here.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You and I have a kind of symbiotic thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Where we both moved to Florida within a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of each other, a few days of each other, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're coming up on two years now.

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<v Speaker 3>So how's it been. What's your favorite part?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? I know the exact day I arrived in Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know your exact day? Because mine was December seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one, and it is a day that I

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<v Speaker 4>will never forget. I was fortunate enough that we have

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<v Speaker 4>a friend who's got some pretty good means, and we

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to have our dog fly under the plane

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<v Speaker 4>on a commercial flight, so he let us borrow his plane.

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<v Speaker 4>It was only the second time that I've ever been

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<v Speaker 4>on a private plane, and you know, you get all

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<v Speaker 4>the drinks you want and the food you want, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was just great. And as we were landing, the

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<v Speaker 4>pilot said to me, do you want to sit in

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<v Speaker 4>the jump seat? That's kind of right behind the You're

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<v Speaker 4>in the cockpit in essence, but you're kind of right

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<v Speaker 4>behind the pilot. And I got in there, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was we were landing at about I think nine or

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<v Speaker 4>ten PM, and I kid you not. As we landed

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<v Speaker 4>in Miami International Airport, I felt something lift off my chest.

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<v Speaker 4>The last two years in LA I had lived there

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<v Speaker 4>for eight years, six years, were pretty great. My career

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<v Speaker 4>took off there. I did what you were supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>do if you go to LA it's to like follow

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<v Speaker 4>the dream. And I'm one of the lucky ones. I

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<v Speaker 4>suppose it worked. Whatever I was doing, it happened. But

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<v Speaker 4>then the two COVID years and the ridiculous recall, and

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<v Speaker 4>of course I campaigned with Larry Elder, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>got audited by the state. Three days after that, I

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<v Speaker 4>was just so ready to leave. I was so angry

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<v Speaker 4>at everybody. It's you know me, My general disposition is

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<v Speaker 4>pretty positive, but I hate everywhere i'd go. I just

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<v Speaker 4>hated everybody. I couldn't deal with the masks, all the nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>And just like you, I moved to the place that

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<v Speaker 4>our friend and governor calls the Citadel of Freedom, and

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<v Speaker 4>I have loved every second of being here. I have

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<v Speaker 4>stayed here for two summers. And yes, it is warm,

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<v Speaker 4>I admit it, and you sweat and your hair is

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit lower. It is device to pay. They

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<v Speaker 4>also now have something I don't know if you have

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<v Speaker 4>this up where you are. We're a couple miles apart,

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<v Speaker 4>but you can actually put this device. It's like a

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<v Speaker 4>box in your window and you press a button and

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<v Speaker 4>it literally cow's going to blow your mind. It conditions

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<v Speaker 4>the air. I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in a sweater, I'm freezing in my house.

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<v Speaker 4>Thus proving the point these devices are. These devices are

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<v Speaker 4>readily available. So yes, I love everything about being in Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>And just one other quick thing for me, sort of

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<v Speaker 4>like existentially, what I've realized is I fought very hard

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<v Speaker 4>against the craziness of CAW for a long time. It

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<v Speaker 4>did spur me on in a lot of ways. It

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<v Speaker 4>made my show more valuable to be fighting against something

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<v Speaker 4>and all that. But I can tell you in the

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<v Speaker 4>two years of fighting for something here, maybe it's I'm

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<v Speaker 4>at the ripe old age of forty seven now, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I just I like fighting for something as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>fighting against something. So that, Yeah, Florida love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, do you feel like California? I mean I think

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<v Speaker 3>you do. But is it totally lost?

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<v Speaker 4>Cause, yeah, it's completely lost. It's a one party state.

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<v Speaker 4>There simply aren't enough good people there to fix it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Gavin Newsom, I think is basically the anti Christ and

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<v Speaker 4>or a lizard person who most likely is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be the nominee. I don't know how they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>do it, but they are getting bited and out of

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<v Speaker 4>the way. I know you and I don't fully see

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<v Speaker 4>eyed eye on that one, which for you I think

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<v Speaker 4>is more of a timing thing. But I just think

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<v Speaker 4>there is no trick that these people cannot do right

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<v Speaker 4>in front of our faces. They'll just do it. They'll

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<v Speaker 4>push the black Lady out of the way. They'll do

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<v Speaker 4>it right in front of our eyes. They'll spin the

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<v Speaker 4>chair around and it'll be Gavin like, it's so dangerous,

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<v Speaker 4>they're so evil, and it's so But no, I have

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<v Speaker 4>no hope because you know the other thing that's happened

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<v Speaker 4>is that as we've had this massive migration, the red

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<v Speaker 4>states are getting redder and the blue are getting bluer.

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<v Speaker 4>So all of think about if I literally could sit here,

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<v Speaker 4>probably for the next twenty minutes and go through all

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<v Speaker 4>of the people and businesses that I know that moved

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<v Speaker 4>from Cali and came here to Florida. Now plenty of

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<v Speaker 4>them moved by the way to Texas obviously in Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 4>but the amount of brain drain that California is suffering.

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<v Speaker 4>The good people who have left San Francisco left LA

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<v Speaker 4>and they've brought all of their talents and their businesses here,

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<v Speaker 4>and the people are voting here the right way, So

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<v Speaker 4>there just aren't enough good people. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>New York City, and I know you're a Brooklyn girl.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like I was in New York City during nine

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<v Speaker 4>to eleven. I lived most of my formative years there,

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<v Speaker 4>in my early twenties into mid thirties, and it's like

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<v Speaker 4>there is no Giuliani left. There isn't. I mean, Rudy's there,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't think he wants to run from mayor again.

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<v Speaker 4>But there aren't enough good people anymore. And you know

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<v Speaker 4>Lee Zelden, who nobody knew of until two weeks before

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<v Speaker 4>that gubernatorial election. He lost by about I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was four hundred and fifty thousand votes in New York.

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<v Speaker 4>About five hundred thousand people have fled New York in

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<v Speaker 4>the COVID years. So not to say that every single

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<v Speaker 4>one of them would have voted for him, and obviously

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<v Speaker 4>some of them are kids and everything else. But the

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<v Speaker 4>point is the difference, which isn't that great even in

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<v Speaker 4>New York, you know, a couple hundred thousand votes. It's

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<v Speaker 4>exacerbated by the fact that so many people have left.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what, as a Floridian, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for the people trying to vote themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to sanity in places like California and New York. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, there's just not enough of them. Although it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like Long Island is going pretty red and so

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<v Speaker 1>their pockets. But no, there's just you know, most of

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<v Speaker 1>us have gotten out, and I think that that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the future for anybody saying kind of left behind, which,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, too bad, because those were a great states.

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<v Speaker 1>They were doing so well for a while. We were

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<v Speaker 1>able to coast on like good Republican leadership for so

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<v Speaker 1>long that we almost didn't notice how badly they were

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<v Speaker 1>falling apart.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, here we.

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<v Speaker 4>Are, Carol. Do you remember, I'm sure we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about Israel in a little bit, but do you

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<v Speaker 4>remember the last scene in both the play and or

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<v Speaker 4>a movie of Fiddler on the Roof, So you know

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<v Speaker 4>they're in that scene it a lot. Yeah, it's an

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<v Speaker 4>incredible moment. It's really one of my favorite moments in

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<v Speaker 4>movie history, because you know, they're realizing that they can't

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<v Speaker 4>stay in their steadle anymore and everything is falling apart,

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<v Speaker 4>and Tevia, who's obviously the main character, and his friend

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<v Speaker 4>Laser Wolf they're trying to figure out where they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to go. And I might slightly butcher this, but in essence,

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<v Speaker 4>his friend Laser is like, I'm going to Chicago, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's like, I'm going to New York. And it's like

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<v Speaker 4>they don't know what they're saying. You could be saying,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to Mars and I'm going to Venus. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like they're just they're going to what they view as

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<v Speaker 4>something better than where they're at. And I would say

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<v Speaker 4>to anyone who is saying that wants to live in

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<v Speaker 4>a safe, free place, you really should move to a

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<v Speaker 4>red state. But only do it if you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>vote the right way, because unfortunately, the history of freedom

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<v Speaker 4>and free people is an aberration. The default situation for

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<v Speaker 4>humans is autocracy and authoritarianism and everything else. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you live in New York right now, like, do

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<v Speaker 4>you feel like if someone broke into your house that

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<v Speaker 4>they would do any of the police would do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you feel like if a mob ran by your store?

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<v Speaker 4>I know it was your friend in New York City,

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<v Speaker 4>they went by her store. It's like, do you think

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<v Speaker 4>the authorities will do anything or do you think that

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<v Speaker 4>they'll basically give a you know, a speech about Islamophobia,

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<v Speaker 4>like we've got everything backwards in most of the places,

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<v Speaker 4>but not every place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the fact that you can't protect yourself, like

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<v Speaker 1>you and I went gun shopping a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good time I mean something you just

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<v Speaker 1>can't can't do in New York or la And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't count on anybody to protect you, but

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<v Speaker 1>you also can't protect yourself. The double whemming of that

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<v Speaker 1>about the Fiddler on the Roof scene. You know, what

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<v Speaker 1>I've thought about a lot is that they're leaving. They're

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<v Speaker 1>really upset they have to leave their home. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, those are the luckiest.

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<v Speaker 3>Jews in like history. They get out, Okay, they have

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<v Speaker 3>the programs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you know, things are not going well,

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<v Speaker 1>but they get out at the turn of the century,

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<v Speaker 1>out of Europe. They end up missing, you know, the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 1>They are living in America. Their ancestors are the Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>voices for peace now because they've lived in like this

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<v Speaker 1>complete safety for so long. Those turn of the century

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<v Speaker 1>Jews are always the ones that their ancestors, their grandchildren,

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<v Speaker 1>their great grandchildren always end up being far left because

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<v Speaker 1>they've had this security of America for so long that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't even know what it could be like if

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<v Speaker 1>they had stayed and ATEFKA.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, there's a lot to say about that.

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<v Speaker 4>First off, I would say on like Jewish voices for

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<v Speaker 4>peace or any of these ridiculous organizations. Most of them

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<v Speaker 4>are not Jewish voices. It's largely like Islamists and crazed Marxists.

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<v Speaker 4>They put jew in there so that it looks good

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<v Speaker 4>when they're protesting, like I'm a Jew for Palestine, which

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<v Speaker 4>is very different than Palestine for Jews, like queers for

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<v Speaker 4>Palestine and everything else. So largely it's not Jews that

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<v Speaker 4>have anything to do with that. Your broader point though,

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<v Speaker 4>of you know what assimilation does generations down the line,

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<v Speaker 4>and what sort of like the ultimate promise of freedom,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, freedom. What you want is freedom from you

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<v Speaker 4>want freedom from oppression. That's what That's what Teva would

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<v Speaker 4>have wanted in Antecma. But you don't. But but freedom too,

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<v Speaker 4>where it's then just do whatever the hell you want

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<v Speaker 4>and nothing is real and anything is up in the

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<v Speaker 4>air and all those things. That's what unfortunately has led

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<v Speaker 4>to a lot of I don't really want to make

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<v Speaker 4>it about Jews, but a lot of what I would

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<v Speaker 4>say are modern woke leftists. It's like they just say

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<v Speaker 4>all these things and none of these things mean anything.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, there was a you just texted me something

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<v Speaker 4>like an hour ago from this guy who I think

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<v Speaker 4>writes it. We don't even have to mention his name,

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<v Speaker 4>but he writes at New York Magazine or New York

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<v Speaker 4>or one of these things, and you know, and you

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<v Speaker 4>could tell he's just like a New York like. I

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<v Speaker 4>just like can't stand I can't stand their affect. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like they all have bad breath and they don't

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<v Speaker 4>they eat too much, so I just ate that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all kind of asexual. I just can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, he wrote something like, you know, Jews

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<v Speaker 4>living in occupied territories is a problem, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we shouldn't be racist together. And it's like, and I responded,

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<v Speaker 4>I because I was waiting to do this show with you,

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<v Speaker 4>and I had a moment and I was like, why

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<v Speaker 4>should I think or sit for a moment. I'll just right.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, let's fight with someone on Twitter. But

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote, why is it? Why do you think that

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<v Speaker 4>Jews in occupied lands are a problem? Because what he's

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<v Speaker 4>saying is the West Bank is occupied, but I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it's known as Judea and Samarian's where the story of

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<v Speaker 4>Hankka took place.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't read the story of Hanukkah come on, that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know the story of Hanukkah that Jews have been

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<v Speaker 4>telling for thousands of years. Jesus of Nazareth, he was

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty popular Jew Nazareth. You're not going to believe.

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<v Speaker 4>This was in Judae and Samari. What we now know

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<v Speaker 4>is West Bank. But but these lefties, they just say

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<v Speaker 4>things and it's all meaningless drivel, just so that I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. I honestly don't even know what it is anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so far removed from it. It's just so that

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<v Speaker 4>they feel like they can be lofty or right about something.

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<v Speaker 4>But yes, they end up dragging the rest of us

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<v Speaker 4>to hell with them. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>The sticker said settlers are a problem in it was

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<v Speaker 1>like in occupied territories and in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like sort of what it was about.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy was like trying to pretend that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean Jews by the settlers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, come on, like seriously.

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<v Speaker 4>But that thing, that thing where it's like you offer pennance.

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<v Speaker 4>So what he's trying to do there, and again we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to make about him specifically, but these have

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<v Speaker 4>people they try to offer some penance. So yes, settlers

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<v Speaker 4>in occupied territories are a problem. Well that sort of

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<v Speaker 4>sounds right, I guess, but like, also without getting too far,

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<v Speaker 4>that there is no occupation. There's never been an occupation.

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<v Speaker 4>The British left the area known as Palestine, which is

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<v Speaker 4>historic Israel. So all these people that are like there's

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<v Speaker 4>a seventy five year occupation, it's like, okay, congratulations, I

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<v Speaker 4>want the British Empire to come back. I guess we

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<v Speaker 4>could go back two hundred years and really mess with

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<v Speaker 4>the Ottomans. That would be fun. Like it's just such nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>But none of this should surprise us, because if you don't,

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<v Speaker 4>if no one ever stands up for the truth, and

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<v Speaker 4>if we live in a time when boys or girls

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<v Speaker 4>and America's fundamentally raisist and all these other things, then

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<v Speaker 4>how do you expect anyone to know the history of

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<v Speaker 4>the Holy Land? You know what I mean? If literally

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<v Speaker 4>you're like chopping Yeah, We're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to take a quick break and be right back

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<v Speaker 1>on the Carol Marcowitch Show. So I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you in the last two years, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>started with Florida, we got into Israel, but you had

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<v Speaker 1>some major changes. You became a father, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is that, Like, what's that been?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you are you the cool dad?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm definitely the more fun dad because I'm mostly

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<v Speaker 4>in this studio all day long and working all day long,

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<v Speaker 4>so I get my studio, of course, is in my house,

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<v Speaker 4>so I get to just kind of show up in

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<v Speaker 4>the room and like pick everybody up and throw them

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<v Speaker 4>around and spin them around and do all the fun

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<v Speaker 4>things all the time I do. There are some diaper

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<v Speaker 4>changes involved in some you know, putting down for naps

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<v Speaker 4>and that kind of thing. But David, my husband, is

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<v Speaker 4>doing most of like the heavy lifting in that regard,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have some help his sister and his sister,

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<v Speaker 4>my sister in law is living with us helping with

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<v Speaker 4>knights and things like that, and we have a close

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<v Speaker 4>enough family with people visiting all the time that there's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the pieces there. But it's incredible, Like

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<v Speaker 4>it's frustrating and crazy and maddening and sometimes like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like my brain if like I can't the screaming or

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<v Speaker 4>just like these kids are so well behaved, they're so

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<v Speaker 4>fun and great, but like sometimes just like they're both

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<v Speaker 4>screaming at once and like I'm trying to like work

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<v Speaker 4>through something that I'm going to do on the show,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like all this craziness, but then at the end,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like it's giving you this this thing that

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<v Speaker 4>cannot be described exactly. You know, last week I was

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<v Speaker 4>in London for Jordan Peterson's art conference and he gave.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave what I honestly believe and I toured with

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<v Speaker 4>this guy, so we did one hundred and twenty shows

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<v Speaker 4>in about a year and a half. It was the

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<v Speaker 4>best speech I've ever heard him give, and really he

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<v Speaker 4>was what he was saying, and I can like dumb

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<v Speaker 4>it down in like the craziest way.

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<v Speaker 3>In thirty yeah for us, come on?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he was actually telling the story of Jacob's Ladder,

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<v Speaker 4>the biblical story of Jacob's Ladder that basically, if you

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<v Speaker 4>in your life do the right thing, so you find

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<v Speaker 4>the spouse you're supposed to be with, you start being

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<v Speaker 4>the person you're supposed to be, You raise your family

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<v Speaker 4>right that in essence, you're you're sort of bringing about

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<v Speaker 4>God by doing that, because you're like giving yourself over

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<v Speaker 4>to something that's better. You don't know why exactly. It's

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<v Speaker 4>frustrating and it's crazy, but then by doing that, you

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<v Speaker 4>start building the ladder, Jacob's ladder. Jacob's ladder. The highest

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<v Speaker 4>point of Jacob's ladder would be ultimately sort of not

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<v Speaker 4>that you could ever know God, but it would be

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<v Speaker 4>like it would be like the thing that you want

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<v Speaker 4>to attain. You're like putting a ladder towards Heaven something

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<v Speaker 4>like that, and that if you do a little of

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<v Speaker 4>the good stuff in your life, you can start building

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<v Speaker 4>those ladder, those steps on the ladder up. And I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of think that that's what I've learned in the

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<v Speaker 4>year of having kids. It's like you don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 4>where that ladder is going. You're building this ladder, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know it's the right thing to build, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>annoying at times. And like, I don't drink tequila at

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<v Speaker 4>two pm in the hot tub anymore, which was one

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<v Speaker 4>of my favorite things.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say. I thought you were gonna say,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't drink tequila. I was like, you drink tequila, no, and.

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<v Speaker 4>We will drink yes, I will see you later this evening,

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<v Speaker 4>but not at two pm on Saturdays in the hot

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<v Speaker 4>tub anymore. And so you sacrifice some things for I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know the linkage of humans that they have been

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<v Speaker 4>doing since the beginning of time. I guess that's probably

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's deep burthering civilization, you know, one baby at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have a huge show, you have a great family,

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<v Speaker 1>you live in the free estate in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like you've made it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess I feel like I've made it in

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<v Speaker 4>that Like I'm financially secure, and I wasn't for a

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<v Speaker 4>long long time in my career. It took a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>like fifteen years to really get to that point. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean when I was even when I was like maybe

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<v Speaker 4>thirty eight or thirty nine, Like we basically had nothing

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<v Speaker 4>when we moved to la in twenty thirteen. We had,

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<v Speaker 4>may I kid you not, we had maybe five thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars between the two of us. I mean, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have three months rent even, and we were making nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I left there a millionaire. I guess, so, like

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<v Speaker 4>that is the dream. You know. I built a tech company,

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<v Speaker 4>not even because it was the right or not because

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<v Speaker 4>it was the smart thing to do, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>the right thing to do. Like I didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 4>much work it was going to be. In the two

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<v Speaker 4>years of my life spent on zoom calls asking investors

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<v Speaker 4>for money. That became my job even more than the

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<v Speaker 4>Reuben Report. But it worked out. Locals worked out, and

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<v Speaker 4>we eventually merged with Rumble. So, like I guess by

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<v Speaker 4>make it like I made it in that I wake

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<v Speaker 4>up every day doing the thing that I am supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to be doing and hopefully like fixing a world so

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<v Speaker 4>that those two kids that don't let me drink tequila

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<v Speaker 4>in the hot tub at two pm on a Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>like can live a pretty decent life. So if that

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<v Speaker 4>basically is what making it is, which I guess, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess if you would have asked me at twenty, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when I was standing on street corns handing out tickets

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<v Speaker 4>in Times Square for stand up shows when I was broke.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I had a friend. I had no money,

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<v Speaker 4>and I had a friend, my buddy John, who was

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<v Speaker 4>in food service, and he used to he would drop

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<v Speaker 4>off like industrial size things of tuna. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 4>five pound vacuum sealed bag of tuna, and I would

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<v Speaker 4>just eat tuna for two weeks straight, like I Am

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<v Speaker 4>going to die of mercury poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>How is there no picture of a young Dave Reuben

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<v Speaker 1>eating giant industrial size tuna.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're probably right. He used to give me huge cans,

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<v Speaker 4>like you can't even believe you've never seen a can

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<v Speaker 4>like this, maybe in the army of soup that they

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like just like the most sodium laced soup

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<v Speaker 4>that they would serve in the worst diner in Queens.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would just eat soup and tuna just to survive.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, between the salt and the mercury. Like it's

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<v Speaker 4>a miracle in here, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>And you look at me, you know, you look really good.

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<v Speaker 3>You're very youthful looking for all that mercury.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty seven years old, I'll take it. I'm actually at

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<v Speaker 4>my lowest weight probably since college I got you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was always like I've always been like sort of

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<v Speaker 4>relatively fit, but I just kind of could cut sugar

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more. And and I also think like

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<v Speaker 4>when you're when you're like roughly living the life you're

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be living, yeah, the other like your weight

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, like you start doing the little things on

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<v Speaker 4>the margins to fix that. So it's one thing if

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 4>you're like hugely obese and then your life starts getting fixed.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to take a little bit more time, but

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<v Speaker 4>I was like within the margins of what kind of worked.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you know, also the two pm tequila drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes back a lot faster than you think. Like

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<v Speaker 1>in a few years, they're like self sufficient, you could

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want. They don't even want to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with you at two pm on a weekend anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, I'm going to the mall my friends.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, you know that is that is good to know.

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<v Speaker 4>You're You're another You're another good example of what Florida

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<v Speaker 4>does for someone when they're when they're living the life

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<v Speaker 4>that they're supposed to be living. Because I know how

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<v Speaker 4>connected you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, this is my show.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well I'm turning it on you for a moment

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<v Speaker 4>because I know and your audience knows you were deeply,

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 4>deeply connected to Brooklyn and your community there and all

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 4>that stuff. It was not easy to do it, but

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 4>you did it. And the cool thing is that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to dinner tonight with this great group of

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<v Speaker 4>people that I did not know, and I think maybe

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 4>I knew Dave or Boy before all this, but I

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 4>didn't really know any of these guys before this, and

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.719
<v Speaker 4>we've all become friends, and it's like we're fighting for

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 4>the same things and and it's it's fun when you're

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<v Speaker 4>doing that, and that's more fun. That's more fun than

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<v Speaker 4>you know. I used to have great, great parties in

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<v Speaker 4>LA and during COVID, we'd have these illegal parties and

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<v Speaker 4>I'd have all these cool you know, influencers and celebrities

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<v Speaker 4>and whatever at my house. But we were always talking

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 4>about how horrible it was there. So right, that's very

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<v Speaker 4>different than when we all get together and we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're in.

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<v Speaker 3>The promise, it's amazing, so good here, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>We really we have a good group, and it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to be fighting for kind of to maintain it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not fighting to change very much.

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, let's just keep it the way that this is.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, that's work. That's working. Sure, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people don't realize that, Like we have to really

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 4>maintain that, Like, regardless of what happens with the presidential situation,

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<v Speaker 4>either DeSantis remains our governor or he goes on to

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<v Speaker 4>be president, which would be incredible in Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>Run a free role.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, Like we have to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 4>institutions that are strong right now. Look, most people in

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<v Speaker 4>New York didn't think New York would be this bad

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<v Speaker 4>this quick, same macaut So it's as strong as Florida is.

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<v Speaker 4>And the demographics are really shifting in our favor, just

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at voter roles and everything else. But

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<v Speaker 4>anything could happen, and whether it's six years from now

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<v Speaker 4>or ten years from now, I want to stop it

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<v Speaker 4>from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Yeah, we have to preserve what we have, and

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<v Speaker 1>what we have is so good. I mean, So, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you say is our biggest societal or cultural problem

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<v Speaker 1>in America?

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<v Speaker 3>And do you think it's solvable?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the biggest problem is that we are We

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<v Speaker 4>are in a society that is driven by lies everywhere, everywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>almost across the board, institutionally, CDCNIH media, CNN, Washington BOST

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 4>New York Times, politicians, almost everything is driven by lives.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I think I've said to you in

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<v Speaker 4>the last couple of weeks, like it's not that surprising

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<v Speaker 4>to me that we're at this weird moment right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if you say to literally two generations of young people,

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<v Speaker 4>your genitals have nothing to do with your biology. If

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<v Speaker 4>you say to them that America, the freest country in

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<v Speaker 4>the history of the world, is actually systemically racist, that

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 4>socialism is better than capitalism, that two plus two equals five.

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<v Speaker 4>If you take everything known, that people who have lived

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<v Speaker 4>much worse, much more difficult lives than us, Carol fought

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 4>for that, our ancestors fought for, many died for to

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 4>get us to this place. Then you scramble it all up,

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<v Speaker 4>and you live in a time where every virtually everyone

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<v Speaker 4>across the board is just lying about everything. I think

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 4>it was Alexander Sultchanitsen who said that the one thing

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<v Speaker 4>you can do is not participate in the lie. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I'm try trying to do, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's the only way we can get out of this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there was I played a clip on my

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<v Speaker 4>show this morning of Trump at this uh there was

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<v Speaker 4>this Florida conference this weekend where they were talking. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they had Santas there and Trump there and all the

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 4>Florida people are there. And Trump was talking about how

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<v Speaker 4>great Republican states were about COVID and he mentioned South Dakota,

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia or whatever, and he doesn't say Florida, and he Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>he knows Florida is the best. He knows DeSantis was

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<v Speaker 4>the best, but he doesn't say Florida while he's in Florida,

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<v Speaker 4>the state that he lives in and all his kids

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 4>live in and his grand kids live in, because he

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 4>doesn't want to give Disanta's credit. And the audience starts

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 4>booing him, which is very rare for him, and you

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 4>could see he kind of he has this weird smile

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 4>and he's kind of back on his heels for a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not that that lie. At this point, he's

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 4>made that lie. That was a lie by omission. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's not that it's so egregious, like it's the worst

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 4>thing ever, like saying I don't know that Ted Cruz

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<v Speaker 4>his dad killed JFK or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be right, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that it's so egregious, other than what I've really

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<v Speaker 4>come around to is that we can't fix the problems

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<v Speaker 4>with lies. Right. So if you think that the Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>and the Wokesters and the institutions are lying about everything,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that the answer to that is more lying.

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<v Speaker 4>And that really is why I've been supporting DeSantis, and

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 4>he makes it easy to do so, and maybe it'll

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<v Speaker 4>work and maybe it won't, but I know that I'll

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<v Speaker 4>have my integrity intact at the end, and I think

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 4>that's worth something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, truth matters so much. I think you know more

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.439
<v Speaker 1>than ever for all the reasons that you said. I

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>think that when we start pretending that the lies are

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the truth, we're all in a terrible situation.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 1>I can keep talking to you for an hour, but

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you know we're running out of time, So end here

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<v Speaker 1>with your best tip for my listeners on how they

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<v Speaker 1>can improve their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's the most cliche thing, but the best

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 4>thing that you can do is tell people what you

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<v Speaker 4>actually think, and this is the time to do it

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<v Speaker 4>more than ever. I have no doubt, Carol, that you've

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<v Speaker 4>received as many texts screenshots of texts as I have

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<v Speaker 4>in the last couple of weeks of friends of mine saying, man,

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<v Speaker 4>can you believe what my friend said to me about this?

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 4>Or they're posting hamas propaganda, or they think there's a

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 4>genocide happening in Gaza, or the litany across the board

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 4>of craziness, and they'll either say, you know, I don't

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 4>want to fight back or I don't want and it's like, man,

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you don't fight back, if you bury

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 4>your head in the sand, you just get beheaded a

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 4>little bit lower on the neck. Or the frog in

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 4>the pot, like you can just sit there and the

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 4>temperature will constantly be turned up and you'll be like, oh,

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to upset everybody, and you know, and

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 4>then eventually you're a boiled frog. And I've had frog's

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 4>legs and they're not great. It's just not great. And

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 4>that's what people have to do. You have to speak

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 4>up because they're praying on the fact that we won't

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 4>speak up. You have to call out the nonsense. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's not to say that people won't be mean to

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 4>you or say weird things to you on Twitter or

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 4>whatever else. But like, if you think that your silence

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 4>is doing you any favors, it is just delaying the inevitable.

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 4>And especially I guess if you have kids, you damn

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 4>well better do it, because then you're doing the ultimate

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 4>ultimate disservice to your children, which is your your acquiescence

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 4>is handing them a world that is worse than the

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 4>one that was handed to you. And I can't imagine

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 4>anything worse that a parent could do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know the fact that Hamas is holding two

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>peace activists is really you know, the telling point there

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>where they really don't care what you believe. They will,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, exactly, chop off your head no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell the truth, let your kids know what you

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>really believe. I think that's the way we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be proceeding from here. Thank you so much, the incredible

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Dave Rubin, Thank you so much for coming on my show.

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<v Speaker 1>Love talking to you, and we'll continue this over tequila.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you to the luxurious Carol Markoix. I will see

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<v Speaker 4>you at that undisclosed location at seven pm tonight, Tequila

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<v Speaker 4>on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Marcowig Show.

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