Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: A few episodes ago, I said that it's a cop
Speaker 1: out to tell people that they should settle, because it's
Speaker 1: the wrong advice to give. It's the nice advice.
Speaker 2: It tells people that they are perfect just the way
Speaker 2: they are, and their standards are simply too high, and
Speaker 2: that's just generally not the case. There's a meme I
Speaker 2: see shared a lot, especially around Valentine's Day. It says,
Speaker 2: I'm selfish, impatient, and a little insecure. I make mistakes,
Speaker 2: I'm out of control and at times hard to handle.
Speaker 2: But if you can't handle me at my worst, then
Speaker 2: you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.
Speaker 2: The line is attributed to Marilyn Monroe, though there's no
Speaker 2: evidence Monroe I ever actually said it. Sometimes the quote
Speaker 2: is just the last line, that you can't handle me
Speaker 2: at my worst, and you sure as hell don't deserve me.
Speaker 3: At my best.
Speaker 2: It's usually accompanied by a picture of a smoking hot
Speaker 2: Monroe oozing sex appeal and challenging anyone to not want
Speaker 2: her even at her worst. But it's a deeply damaging idea.
Speaker 2: For one thing, none of us are Marilyn Monroe for another.
Speaker 2: The idea that we don't need to change anything about
Speaker 2: ourselves and are perfect just the way we are can
Speaker 2: hinder finding a good partner and a healthy relationship. The
Speaker 2: fact is, if you are perpetually single and can never
Speaker 2: meet anyone, there are probably some things you can change
Speaker 2: about yourself. And despite what your friends have told you
Speaker 2: in Unison, it probably isn't that you're just too awesome
Speaker 2: for all the people you meet, too good for them,
Speaker 2: too beautiful, too handsome, too amazing. There's probably something about
Speaker 2: you that is repelling potential mates. It doesn't mean you're
Speaker 2: a terrible person or this can't be solved, something that
Speaker 2: needs to be fixed.
Speaker 3: Women get this.
Speaker 1: Advice a lot, that you're just perfect just the way
Speaker 1: you are and look. Men get a lot of terrible
Speaker 1: advice too.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, but women are the ones who
Speaker 2: are always getting assured that they're just super perfect and
Speaker 2: couldn't possibly make changes to attract a mate. Assuming you
Speaker 2: know whether or not you're a woman or a man,
Speaker 2: you have good hygiene, are not hideous to look at,
Speaker 2: and you're probably.
Speaker 3: Not hideous to look at.
Speaker 2: That's just the fact, and have no obvious problems, no
Speaker 2: substance abuse or weird tattoos on your neck. The problem
Speaker 2: is likely your personality. And if I may speculate a
Speaker 2: bit further, it's almost definitely that you talk too much
Speaker 2: about very little. If you're listening and you swear, look,
Speaker 2: I don't smell bad, I look good. I don't feel
Speaker 2: like I talk too much, It's time for a reality check.
Speaker 3: There has to be one person in your life who
Speaker 3: will be completely honest with you.
Speaker 1: You need that person to tell you in a very
Speaker 1: straightforward way, what you're doing wrong. It might not be
Speaker 1: the amount you talk, but what you say. Do you
Speaker 1: talk about bodily.
Speaker 2: Functions, ex girlfriends, men who hit on you constantly? An
Speaker 2: esoteric hobby you have that if you know anything about
Speaker 2: Do you take any experience or event and relate it
Speaker 2: immediately back to yourself with a story, no matter how
Speaker 2: short to match. Do people shake their heads a lot
Speaker 2: when they're talking to you, even in a playful, oh
Speaker 2: you kind of way. It goes back to the problem
Speaker 2: that I talked about a few episodes ago, which is
Speaker 2: that people don't know how to flirt. We don't know
Speaker 2: how to conversate. That's really what it is flirting is conversation.
Speaker 2: If people say that's crazy a lot to you as
Speaker 2: you're talking, you're not having a conversation.
Speaker 3: You're delivering a monologue.
Speaker 1: So I don't want you to settle, but I want
Speaker 1: you to rearrange your personality to land a man or
Speaker 1: a woman. No, I want you to rearrange your personality
Speaker 1: so you can have a more fulfilling and interesting life,
Speaker 1: the life you want. Everybody has the capacity.
Speaker 3: To be boring or inappropriate.
Speaker 2: It's the keeping it in check that makes you not
Speaker 2: annoying to be around. This isn't just for a mate,
Speaker 2: it's for you. Those people playfully shaking their heads at
Speaker 2: your ridiculous tales have no other response to your stories,
Speaker 2: but perhaps they are your friends, family, co workers, and
Speaker 2: so have learned to adapt. The person of your dreams
Speaker 2: might not want to. The best version of a conversation
Speaker 2: isn't for the other person to say.
Speaker 3: Mmmm mmmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's for them to have something to say back to you.
Speaker 2: Give them something interesting to respond to, and they will.
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1: Coming up next and interview with Dave Rubin. Join us
Speaker 1: after the break, Hi, and welcome back to the Carol
Speaker 1: Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is the amazing
Speaker 1: Dave Rubin. Dave's host of The Ruben Report and co
Speaker 1: founder of Locals.
Speaker 3: So nice to have you on, Dave.
Speaker 4: I like the amazing Dave Rubin. It sounds like I'm
Speaker 4: like a washed up magician or something. The Amazing watch
Speaker 4: where he pulls the rabbit from.
Speaker 1: I was going to go with incredible, but that felt
Speaker 1: like too much, you know, ah.
Speaker 4: It is incredible, more over the top than amazing. I'm
Speaker 4: not quite sure. We leave that to the audience.
Speaker 1: I think so, I think incredible is you know, like
Speaker 1: we'll save that for your second interview here.
Speaker 4: You know, so.
Speaker 3: You and I have a kind of symbiotic thing.
Speaker 1: Where we both moved to Florida within a few weeks
Speaker 1: of each other, a few days of each other, and
Speaker 1: we're coming up on two years now.
Speaker 3: So how's it been. What's your favorite part?
Speaker 4: Well? I know the exact day I arrived in Florida.
Speaker 4: Do you know your exact day? Because mine was December seventeenth,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and it is a day that I
Speaker 4: will never forget. I was fortunate enough that we have
Speaker 4: a friend who's got some pretty good means, and we
Speaker 4: didn't want to have our dog fly under the plane
Speaker 4: on a commercial flight, so he let us borrow his plane.
Speaker 4: It was only the second time that I've ever been
Speaker 4: on a private plane, and you know, you get all
Speaker 4: the drinks you want and the food you want, and
Speaker 4: it was just great. And as we were landing, the
Speaker 4: pilot said to me, do you want to sit in
Speaker 4: the jump seat? That's kind of right behind the You're
Speaker 4: in the cockpit in essence, but you're kind of right
Speaker 4: behind the pilot. And I got in there, and it
Speaker 4: was we were landing at about I think nine or
Speaker 4: ten PM, and I kid you not. As we landed
Speaker 4: in Miami International Airport, I felt something lift off my chest.
Speaker 4: The last two years in LA I had lived there
Speaker 4: for eight years, six years, were pretty great. My career
Speaker 4: took off there. I did what you were supposed to
Speaker 4: do if you go to LA it's to like follow
Speaker 4: the dream. And I'm one of the lucky ones. I
Speaker 4: suppose it worked. Whatever I was doing, it happened. But
Speaker 4: then the two COVID years and the ridiculous recall, and
Speaker 4: of course I campaigned with Larry Elder, and then I
Speaker 4: got audited by the state. Three days after that, I
Speaker 4: was just so ready to leave. I was so angry
Speaker 4: at everybody. It's you know me, My general disposition is
Speaker 4: pretty positive, but I hate everywhere i'd go. I just
Speaker 4: hated everybody. I couldn't deal with the masks, all the nonsense.
Speaker 4: And just like you, I moved to the place that
Speaker 4: our friend and governor calls the Citadel of Freedom, and
Speaker 4: I have loved every second of being here. I have
Speaker 4: stayed here for two summers. And yes, it is warm,
Speaker 4: I admit it, and you sweat and your hair is
Speaker 4: a little bit lower. It is device to pay. They
Speaker 4: also now have something I don't know if you have
Speaker 4: this up where you are. We're a couple miles apart,
Speaker 4: but you can actually put this device. It's like a
Speaker 4: box in your window and you press a button and
Speaker 4: it literally cow's going to blow your mind. It conditions
Speaker 4: the air. I don't know what.
Speaker 3: I'm in a sweater, I'm freezing in my house.
Speaker 4: Thus proving the point these devices are. These devices are
Speaker 4: readily available. So yes, I love everything about being in Florida.
Speaker 4: And just one other quick thing for me, sort of
Speaker 4: like existentially, what I've realized is I fought very hard
Speaker 4: against the craziness of CAW for a long time. It
Speaker 4: did spur me on in a lot of ways. It
Speaker 4: made my show more valuable to be fighting against something
Speaker 4: and all that. But I can tell you in the
Speaker 4: two years of fighting for something here, maybe it's I'm
Speaker 4: at the ripe old age of forty seven now, Like
Speaker 4: I just I like fighting for something as opposed to
Speaker 4: fighting against something. So that, Yeah, Florida love it.
Speaker 3: Yes, do you feel like California? I mean I think
Speaker 3: you do. But is it totally lost?
Speaker 4: Cause, yeah, it's completely lost. It's a one party state.
Speaker 4: There simply aren't enough good people there to fix it anymore.
Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom, I think is basically the anti Christ and
Speaker 4: or a lizard person who most likely is going to
Speaker 4: be the nominee. I don't know how they're going to
Speaker 4: do it, but they are getting bited and out of
Speaker 4: the way. I know you and I don't fully see
Speaker 4: eyed eye on that one, which for you I think
Speaker 4: is more of a timing thing. But I just think
Speaker 4: there is no trick that these people cannot do right
Speaker 4: in front of our faces. They'll just do it. They'll
Speaker 4: push the black Lady out of the way. They'll do
Speaker 4: it right in front of our eyes. They'll spin the
Speaker 4: chair around and it'll be Gavin like, it's so dangerous,
Speaker 4: they're so evil, and it's so But no, I have
Speaker 4: no hope because you know the other thing that's happened
Speaker 4: is that as we've had this massive migration, the red
Speaker 4: states are getting redder and the blue are getting bluer.
Speaker 4: So all of think about if I literally could sit here,
Speaker 4: probably for the next twenty minutes and go through all
Speaker 4: of the people and businesses that I know that moved
Speaker 4: from Cali and came here to Florida. Now plenty of
Speaker 4: them moved by the way to Texas obviously in Tennessee,
Speaker 4: but the amount of brain drain that California is suffering.
Speaker 4: The good people who have left San Francisco left LA
Speaker 4: and they've brought all of their talents and their businesses here,
Speaker 4: and the people are voting here the right way, So
Speaker 4: there just aren't enough good people. It's sort of like
Speaker 4: New York City, and I know you're a Brooklyn girl.
Speaker 4: It's like I was in New York City during nine
Speaker 4: to eleven. I lived most of my formative years there,
Speaker 4: in my early twenties into mid thirties, and it's like
Speaker 4: there is no Giuliani left. There isn't. I mean, Rudy's there,
Speaker 4: but I don't think he wants to run from mayor again.
Speaker 4: But there aren't enough good people anymore. And you know
Speaker 4: Lee Zelden, who nobody knew of until two weeks before
Speaker 4: that gubernatorial election. He lost by about I think it
Speaker 4: was four hundred and fifty thousand votes in New York.
Speaker 4: About five hundred thousand people have fled New York in
Speaker 4: the COVID years. So not to say that every single
Speaker 4: one of them would have voted for him, and obviously
Speaker 4: some of them are kids and everything else. But the
Speaker 4: point is the difference, which isn't that great even in
Speaker 4: New York, you know, a couple hundred thousand votes. It's
Speaker 4: exacerbated by the fact that so many people have left.
Speaker 4: And you know what, as a Floridian, I'll take it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the people trying to vote themselves
Speaker 1: to sanity in places like California and New York. But
Speaker 1: you're right, there's just not enough of them. Although it
Speaker 1: looks like Long Island is going pretty red and so
Speaker 1: their pockets. But no, there's just you know, most of
Speaker 1: us have gotten out, and I think that that's sort
Speaker 1: of the future for anybody saying kind of left behind, which,
Speaker 1: you know, too bad, because those were a great states.
Speaker 1: They were doing so well for a while. We were
Speaker 1: able to coast on like good Republican leadership for so
Speaker 1: long that we almost didn't notice how badly they were
Speaker 1: falling apart.
Speaker 3: But you know, here we.
Speaker 4: Are, Carol. Do you remember, I'm sure we're going to
Speaker 4: talk about Israel in a little bit, but do you
Speaker 4: remember the last scene in both the play and or
Speaker 4: a movie of Fiddler on the Roof, So you know
Speaker 4: they're in that scene it a lot. Yeah, it's an
Speaker 4: incredible moment. It's really one of my favorite moments in
Speaker 4: movie history, because you know, they're realizing that they can't
Speaker 4: stay in their steadle anymore and everything is falling apart,
Speaker 4: and Tevia, who's obviously the main character, and his friend
Speaker 4: Laser Wolf they're trying to figure out where they're going
Speaker 4: to go. And I might slightly butcher this, but in essence,
Speaker 4: his friend Laser is like, I'm going to Chicago, and
Speaker 4: he's like, I'm going to New York. And it's like
Speaker 4: they don't know what they're saying. You could be saying,
Speaker 4: I'm going to Mars and I'm going to Venus. It's
Speaker 4: like they're just they're going to what they view as
Speaker 4: something better than where they're at. And I would say
Speaker 4: to anyone who is saying that wants to live in
Speaker 4: a safe, free place, you really should move to a
Speaker 4: red state. But only do it if you're going to
Speaker 4: vote the right way, because unfortunately, the history of freedom
Speaker 4: and free people is an aberration. The default situation for
Speaker 4: humans is autocracy and authoritarianism and everything else. And you know,
Speaker 4: if you live in New York right now, like, do
Speaker 4: you feel like if someone broke into your house that
Speaker 4: they would do any of the police would do anything.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like if a mob ran by your store?
Speaker 4: I know it was your friend in New York City,
Speaker 4: they went by her store. It's like, do you think
Speaker 4: the authorities will do anything or do you think that
Speaker 4: they'll basically give a you know, a speech about Islamophobia,
Speaker 4: like we've got everything backwards in most of the places,
Speaker 4: but not every place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the fact that you can't protect yourself, like
Speaker 1: you and I went gun shopping a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: That was a good time I mean something you just
Speaker 1: can't can't do in New York or la And you know,
Speaker 1: so you can't count on anybody to protect you, but
Speaker 1: you also can't protect yourself. The double whemming of that
Speaker 1: about the Fiddler on the Roof scene. You know, what
Speaker 1: I've thought about a lot is that they're leaving. They're
Speaker 1: really upset they have to leave their home. But if
Speaker 1: you think about it, those are the luckiest.
Speaker 3: Jews in like history. They get out, Okay, they have
Speaker 3: the programs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, things are not going well,
Speaker 1: but they get out at the turn of the century,
Speaker 1: out of Europe. They end up missing, you know, the Holocaust.
Speaker 1: They are living in America. Their ancestors are the Jewish
Speaker 1: voices for peace now because they've lived in like this
Speaker 1: complete safety for so long. Those turn of the century
Speaker 1: Jews are always the ones that their ancestors, their grandchildren,
Speaker 1: their great grandchildren always end up being far left because
Speaker 1: they've had this security of America for so long that
Speaker 1: they don't even know what it could be like if
Speaker 1: they had stayed and ATEFKA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's a lot to say about that.
Speaker 4: First off, I would say on like Jewish voices for
Speaker 4: peace or any of these ridiculous organizations. Most of them
Speaker 4: are not Jewish voices. It's largely like Islamists and crazed Marxists.
Speaker 4: They put jew in there so that it looks good
Speaker 4: when they're protesting, like I'm a Jew for Palestine, which
Speaker 4: is very different than Palestine for Jews, like queers for
Speaker 4: Palestine and everything else. So largely it's not Jews that
Speaker 4: have anything to do with that. Your broader point though,
Speaker 4: of you know what assimilation does generations down the line,
Speaker 4: and what sort of like the ultimate promise of freedom,
Speaker 4: you know, freedom. What you want is freedom from you
Speaker 4: want freedom from oppression. That's what That's what Teva would
Speaker 4: have wanted in Antecma. But you don't. But but freedom too,
Speaker 4: where it's then just do whatever the hell you want
Speaker 4: and nothing is real and anything is up in the
Speaker 4: air and all those things. That's what unfortunately has led
Speaker 4: to a lot of I don't really want to make
Speaker 4: it about Jews, but a lot of what I would
Speaker 4: say are modern woke leftists. It's like they just say
Speaker 4: all these things and none of these things mean anything.
Speaker 4: For example, there was a you just texted me something
Speaker 4: like an hour ago from this guy who I think
Speaker 4: writes it. We don't even have to mention his name,
Speaker 4: but he writes at New York Magazine or New York
Speaker 4: or one of these things, and you know, and you
Speaker 4: could tell he's just like a New York like. I
Speaker 4: just like can't stand I can't stand their affect. I
Speaker 4: feel like they all have bad breath and they don't
Speaker 4: they eat too much, so I just ate that whole thing.
Speaker 4: They're all kind of asexual. I just can't stand it.
Speaker 4: But you know, he wrote something like, you know, Jews
Speaker 4: living in occupied territories is a problem, but you know,
Speaker 4: we shouldn't be racist together. And it's like, and I responded,
Speaker 4: I because I was waiting to do this show with you,
Speaker 4: and I had a moment and I was like, why
Speaker 4: should I think or sit for a moment. I'll just right.
Speaker 4: I was like, let's fight with someone on Twitter. But
Speaker 4: I wrote, why is it? Why do you think that
Speaker 4: Jews in occupied lands are a problem? Because what he's
Speaker 4: saying is the West Bank is occupied, but I mean
Speaker 4: it's known as Judea and Samarian's where the story of
Speaker 4: Hankka took place.
Speaker 1: He hasn't read the story of Hanukkah come on, that guy.
Speaker 4: You know the story of Hanukkah that Jews have been
Speaker 4: telling for thousands of years. Jesus of Nazareth, he was
Speaker 4: a pretty popular Jew Nazareth. You're not going to believe.
Speaker 4: This was in Judae and Samari. What we now know
Speaker 4: is West Bank. But but these lefties, they just say
Speaker 4: things and it's all meaningless drivel, just so that I
Speaker 4: don't know. I honestly don't even know what it is anymore.
Speaker 4: I'm so far removed from it. It's just so that
Speaker 4: they feel like they can be lofty or right about something.
Speaker 4: But yes, they end up dragging the rest of us
Speaker 4: to hell with them. I guess.
Speaker 1: The sticker said settlers are a problem in it was
Speaker 1: like in occupied territories and in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: That's like sort of what it was about.
Speaker 1: And this guy was like trying to pretend that they
Speaker 1: didn't mean Jews by the settlers.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, like seriously.
Speaker 4: But that thing, that thing where it's like you offer pennance.
Speaker 4: So what he's trying to do there, and again we
Speaker 4: don't have to make about him specifically, but these have
Speaker 4: people they try to offer some penance. So yes, settlers
Speaker 4: in occupied territories are a problem. Well that sort of
Speaker 4: sounds right, I guess, but like, also without getting too far,
Speaker 4: that there is no occupation. There's never been an occupation.
Speaker 4: The British left the area known as Palestine, which is
Speaker 4: historic Israel. So all these people that are like there's
Speaker 4: a seventy five year occupation, it's like, okay, congratulations, I
Speaker 4: want the British Empire to come back. I guess we
Speaker 4: could go back two hundred years and really mess with
Speaker 4: the Ottomans. That would be fun. Like it's just such nonsense.
Speaker 4: But none of this should surprise us, because if you don't,
Speaker 4: if no one ever stands up for the truth, and
Speaker 4: if we live in a time when boys or girls
Speaker 4: and America's fundamentally raisist and all these other things, then
Speaker 4: how do you expect anyone to know the history of
Speaker 4: the Holy Land? You know what I mean? If literally
Speaker 4: you're like chopping Yeah, We're.
Speaker 1: Going to take a quick break and be right back
Speaker 1: on the Carol Marcowitch Show. So I was going to
Speaker 1: ask you in the last two years, you know, we
Speaker 1: started with Florida, we got into Israel, but you had
Speaker 1: some major changes. You became a father, and you know,
Speaker 1: is that, Like, what's that been?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Are you are you the cool dad?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm definitely the more fun dad because I'm mostly
Speaker 4: in this studio all day long and working all day long,
Speaker 4: so I get my studio, of course, is in my house,
Speaker 4: so I get to just kind of show up in
Speaker 4: the room and like pick everybody up and throw them
Speaker 4: around and spin them around and do all the fun
Speaker 4: things all the time I do. There are some diaper
Speaker 4: changes involved in some you know, putting down for naps
Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. But David, my husband, is
Speaker 4: doing most of like the heavy lifting in that regard,
Speaker 4: and we have some help his sister and his sister,
Speaker 4: my sister in law is living with us helping with
Speaker 4: knights and things like that, and we have a close
Speaker 4: enough family with people visiting all the time that there's
Speaker 4: a lot of the pieces there. But it's incredible, Like
Speaker 4: it's frustrating and crazy and maddening and sometimes like I'm
Speaker 4: like my brain if like I can't the screaming or
Speaker 4: just like these kids are so well behaved, they're so
Speaker 4: fun and great, but like sometimes just like they're both
Speaker 4: screaming at once and like I'm trying to like work
Speaker 4: through something that I'm going to do on the show,
Speaker 4: and it's like all this craziness, but then at the end,
Speaker 4: you know, like it's giving you this this thing that
Speaker 4: cannot be described exactly. You know, last week I was
Speaker 4: in London for Jordan Peterson's art conference and he gave.
Speaker 4: He gave what I honestly believe and I toured with
Speaker 4: this guy, so we did one hundred and twenty shows
Speaker 4: in about a year and a half. It was the
Speaker 4: best speech I've ever heard him give, and really he
Speaker 4: was what he was saying, and I can like dumb
Speaker 4: it down in like the craziest way.
Speaker 3: In thirty yeah for us, come on?
Speaker 4: Is he was actually telling the story of Jacob's Ladder,
Speaker 4: the biblical story of Jacob's Ladder that basically, if you
Speaker 4: in your life do the right thing, so you find
Speaker 4: the spouse you're supposed to be with, you start being
Speaker 4: the person you're supposed to be, You raise your family
Speaker 4: right that in essence, you're you're sort of bringing about
Speaker 4: God by doing that, because you're like giving yourself over
Speaker 4: to something that's better. You don't know why exactly. It's
Speaker 4: frustrating and it's crazy, but then by doing that, you
Speaker 4: start building the ladder, Jacob's ladder. Jacob's ladder. The highest
Speaker 4: point of Jacob's ladder would be ultimately sort of not
Speaker 4: that you could ever know God, but it would be
Speaker 4: like it would be like the thing that you want
Speaker 4: to attain. You're like putting a ladder towards Heaven something
Speaker 4: like that, and that if you do a little of
Speaker 4: the good stuff in your life, you can start building
Speaker 4: those ladder, those steps on the ladder up. And I
Speaker 4: kind of think that that's what I've learned in the
Speaker 4: year of having kids. It's like you don't know exactly
Speaker 4: where that ladder is going. You're building this ladder, and
Speaker 4: you know it's the right thing to build, and it's
Speaker 4: annoying at times. And like, I don't drink tequila at
Speaker 4: two pm in the hot tub anymore, which was one
Speaker 4: of my favorite things.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. I thought you were gonna say,
Speaker 3: I don't drink tequila. I was like, you drink tequila, no, and.
Speaker 4: We will drink yes, I will see you later this evening,
Speaker 4: but not at two pm on Saturdays in the hot
Speaker 4: tub anymore. And so you sacrifice some things for I
Speaker 4: don't know the linkage of humans that they have been
Speaker 4: doing since the beginning of time. I guess that's probably
Speaker 4: pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's deep burthering civilization, you know, one baby at a time.
Speaker 1: So you have a huge show, you have a great family,
Speaker 1: you live in the free estate in the country.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you've made it?
Speaker 4: Well, I guess I feel like I've made it in
Speaker 4: that Like I'm financially secure, and I wasn't for a
Speaker 4: long long time in my career. It took a long time,
Speaker 4: like fifteen years to really get to that point. I
Speaker 4: mean when I was even when I was like maybe
Speaker 4: thirty eight or thirty nine, Like we basically had nothing
Speaker 4: when we moved to la in twenty thirteen. We had,
Speaker 4: may I kid you not, we had maybe five thousand
Speaker 4: dollars between the two of us. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 4: have three months rent even, and we were making nothing.
Speaker 4: And I left there a millionaire. I guess, so, like
Speaker 4: that is the dream. You know. I built a tech company,
Speaker 4: not even because it was the right or not because
Speaker 4: it was the smart thing to do, but it was
Speaker 4: the right thing to do. Like I didn't realize how
Speaker 4: much work it was going to be. In the two
Speaker 4: years of my life spent on zoom calls asking investors
Speaker 4: for money. That became my job even more than the
Speaker 4: Reuben Report. But it worked out. Locals worked out, and
Speaker 4: we eventually merged with Rumble. So, like I guess by
Speaker 4: make it like I made it in that I wake
Speaker 4: up every day doing the thing that I am supposed
Speaker 4: to be doing and hopefully like fixing a world so
Speaker 4: that those two kids that don't let me drink tequila
Speaker 4: in the hot tub at two pm on a Saturday,
Speaker 4: like can live a pretty decent life. So if that
Speaker 4: basically is what making it is, which I guess, I
Speaker 4: guess if you would have asked me at twenty, you know,
Speaker 4: when I was standing on street corns handing out tickets
Speaker 4: in Times Square for stand up shows when I was broke.
Speaker 4: I mean, I had a friend. I had no money,
Speaker 4: and I had a friend, my buddy John, who was
Speaker 4: in food service, and he used to he would drop
Speaker 4: off like industrial size things of tuna. I'm talking about
Speaker 4: five pound vacuum sealed bag of tuna, and I would
Speaker 4: just eat tuna for two weeks straight, like I Am
Speaker 4: going to die of mercury poisoning.
Speaker 1: How is there no picture of a young Dave Reuben
Speaker 1: eating giant industrial size tuna.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're probably right. He used to give me huge cans,
Speaker 4: like you can't even believe you've never seen a can
Speaker 4: like this, maybe in the army of soup that they
Speaker 4: you know, like just like the most sodium laced soup
Speaker 4: that they would serve in the worst diner in Queens.
Speaker 4: And I would just eat soup and tuna just to survive.
Speaker 4: I mean, between the salt and the mercury. Like it's
Speaker 4: a miracle in here, honestly.
Speaker 3: And you look at me, you know, you look really good.
Speaker 3: You're very youthful looking for all that mercury.
Speaker 4: Forty seven years old, I'll take it. I'm actually at
Speaker 4: my lowest weight probably since college I got you know,
Speaker 4: I was always like I've always been like sort of
Speaker 4: relatively fit, but I just kind of could cut sugar
Speaker 4: a little bit more. And and I also think like
Speaker 4: when you're when you're like roughly living the life you're
Speaker 4: supposed to be living, yeah, the other like your weight
Speaker 4: or whatever, like you start doing the little things on
Speaker 4: the margins to fix that. So it's one thing if
Speaker 4: you're like hugely obese and then your life starts getting fixed.
Speaker 4: It's going to take a little bit more time, but
Speaker 4: I was like within the margins of what kind of worked.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you know, also the two pm tequila drinking,
Speaker 1: it comes back a lot faster than you think. Like
Speaker 1: in a few years, they're like self sufficient, you could
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. They don't even want to hang
Speaker 1: out with you at two pm on a weekend anymore.
Speaker 1: They're like, I'm going to the mall my friends.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know that is that is good to know.
Speaker 4: You're You're another You're another good example of what Florida
Speaker 4: does for someone when they're when they're living the life
Speaker 4: that they're supposed to be living. Because I know how
Speaker 4: connected you.
Speaker 3: Hey, this is my show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'm turning it on you for a moment
Speaker 4: because I know and your audience knows you were deeply,
Speaker 4: deeply connected to Brooklyn and your community there and all
Speaker 4: that stuff. It was not easy to do it, but
Speaker 4: you did it. And the cool thing is that, I mean,
Speaker 4: We're going to dinner tonight with this great group of
Speaker 4: people that I did not know, and I think maybe
Speaker 4: I knew Dave or Boy before all this, but I
Speaker 4: didn't really know any of these guys before this, and
Speaker 4: we've all become friends, and it's like we're fighting for
Speaker 4: the same things and and it's it's fun when you're
Speaker 4: doing that, and that's more fun. That's more fun than
Speaker 4: you know. I used to have great, great parties in
Speaker 4: LA and during COVID, we'd have these illegal parties and
Speaker 4: I'd have all these cool you know, influencers and celebrities
Speaker 4: and whatever at my house. But we were always talking
Speaker 4: about how horrible it was there. So right, that's very
Speaker 4: different than when we all get together and we're like, oh,
Speaker 4: we're in.
Speaker 3: The promise, it's amazing, so good here, it's true.
Speaker 1: We really we have a good group, and it's nice
Speaker 1: to be fighting for kind of to maintain it, right,
Speaker 1: we're not fighting to change very much.
Speaker 3: We're like, let's just keep it the way that this is.
Speaker 4: By the way, that's work. That's working. Sure, a lot
Speaker 4: of people don't realize that, Like we have to really
Speaker 4: maintain that, Like, regardless of what happens with the presidential situation,
Speaker 4: either DeSantis remains our governor or he goes on to
Speaker 4: be president, which would be incredible in Florida.
Speaker 3: Run a free role.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Like we have to make sure that the
Speaker 4: institutions that are strong right now. Look, most people in
Speaker 4: New York didn't think New York would be this bad
Speaker 4: this quick, same macaut So it's as strong as Florida is.
Speaker 4: And the demographics are really shifting in our favor, just
Speaker 4: if you look at voter roles and everything else. But
Speaker 4: anything could happen, and whether it's six years from now
Speaker 4: or ten years from now, I want to stop it
Speaker 4: from happening.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, we have to preserve what we have, and
Speaker 1: what we have is so good. I mean, So, what
Speaker 1: would you say is our biggest societal or cultural problem
Speaker 1: in America?
Speaker 3: And do you think it's solvable?
Speaker 4: I mean, the biggest problem is that we are We
Speaker 4: are in a society that is driven by lies everywhere, everywhere,
Speaker 4: almost across the board, institutionally, CDCNIH media, CNN, Washington BOST
Speaker 4: New York Times, politicians, almost everything is driven by lives.
Speaker 4: And that's why I think I've said to you in
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, like it's not that surprising
Speaker 4: to me that we're at this weird moment right now.
Speaker 4: Like if you say to literally two generations of young people,
Speaker 4: your genitals have nothing to do with your biology. If
Speaker 4: you say to them that America, the freest country in
Speaker 4: the history of the world, is actually systemically racist, that
Speaker 4: socialism is better than capitalism, that two plus two equals five.
Speaker 4: If you take everything known, that people who have lived
Speaker 4: much worse, much more difficult lives than us, Carol fought
Speaker 4: for that, our ancestors fought for, many died for to
Speaker 4: get us to this place. Then you scramble it all up,
Speaker 4: and you live in a time where every virtually everyone
Speaker 4: across the board is just lying about everything. I think
Speaker 4: it was Alexander Sultchanitsen who said that the one thing
Speaker 4: you can do is not participate in the lie. And
Speaker 4: that's what I'm try trying to do, and I think
Speaker 4: it's the only way we can get out of this thing.
Speaker 4: You know, there was I played a clip on my
Speaker 4: show this morning of Trump at this uh there was
Speaker 4: this Florida conference this weekend where they were talking. You know,
Speaker 4: they had Santas there and Trump there and all the
Speaker 4: Florida people are there. And Trump was talking about how
Speaker 4: great Republican states were about COVID and he mentioned South Dakota,
Speaker 4: Georgia or whatever, and he doesn't say Florida, and he Obviously,
Speaker 4: he knows Florida is the best. He knows DeSantis was
Speaker 4: the best, but he doesn't say Florida while he's in Florida,
Speaker 4: the state that he lives in and all his kids
Speaker 4: live in and his grand kids live in, because he
Speaker 4: doesn't want to give Disanta's credit. And the audience starts
Speaker 4: booing him, which is very rare for him, and you
Speaker 4: could see he kind of he has this weird smile
Speaker 4: and he's kind of back on his heels for a minute.
Speaker 4: And it's not that that lie. At this point, he's
Speaker 4: made that lie. That was a lie by omission. But
Speaker 4: it's not that it's so egregious, like it's the worst
Speaker 4: thing ever, like saying I don't know that Ted Cruz
Speaker 4: his dad killed JFK or something like that.
Speaker 3: It might be right, it's.
Speaker 4: Not that it's so egregious, other than what I've really
Speaker 4: come around to is that we can't fix the problems
Speaker 4: with lies. Right. So if you think that the Democrats
Speaker 4: and the Wokesters and the institutions are lying about everything,
Speaker 4: I don't think that the answer to that is more lying.
Speaker 4: And that really is why I've been supporting DeSantis, and
Speaker 4: he makes it easy to do so, and maybe it'll
Speaker 4: work and maybe it won't, but I know that I'll
Speaker 4: have my integrity intact at the end, and I think
Speaker 4: that's worth something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, truth matters so much. I think you know more
Speaker 1: than ever for all the reasons that you said. I
Speaker 1: think that when we start pretending that the lies are
Speaker 1: the truth, we're all in a terrible situation.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree with you there.
Speaker 1: I can keep talking to you for an hour, but
Speaker 1: you know we're running out of time, So end here
Speaker 1: with your best tip for my listeners on how they
Speaker 1: can improve their lives.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the most cliche thing, but the best
Speaker 4: thing that you can do is tell people what you
Speaker 4: actually think, and this is the time to do it
Speaker 4: more than ever. I have no doubt, Carol, that you've
Speaker 4: received as many texts screenshots of texts as I have
Speaker 4: in the last couple of weeks of friends of mine saying, man,
Speaker 4: can you believe what my friend said to me about this?
Speaker 4: Or they're posting hamas propaganda, or they think there's a
Speaker 4: genocide happening in Gaza, or the litany across the board
Speaker 4: of craziness, and they'll either say, you know, I don't
Speaker 4: want to fight back or I don't want and it's like, man,
Speaker 4: you know, if you don't fight back, if you bury
Speaker 4: your head in the sand, you just get beheaded a
Speaker 4: little bit lower on the neck. Or the frog in
Speaker 4: the pot, like you can just sit there and the
Speaker 4: temperature will constantly be turned up and you'll be like, oh,
Speaker 4: I don't want to upset everybody, and you know, and
Speaker 4: then eventually you're a boiled frog. And I've had frog's
Speaker 4: legs and they're not great. It's just not great. And
Speaker 4: that's what people have to do. You have to speak
Speaker 4: up because they're praying on the fact that we won't
Speaker 4: speak up. You have to call out the nonsense. And
Speaker 4: that's not to say that people won't be mean to
Speaker 4: you or say weird things to you on Twitter or
Speaker 4: whatever else. But like, if you think that your silence
Speaker 4: is doing you any favors, it is just delaying the inevitable.
Speaker 4: And especially I guess if you have kids, you damn
Speaker 4: well better do it, because then you're doing the ultimate
Speaker 4: ultimate disservice to your children, which is your your acquiescence
Speaker 4: is handing them a world that is worse than the
Speaker 4: one that was handed to you. And I can't imagine
Speaker 4: anything worse that a parent could do.
Speaker 3: It's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the fact that Hamas is holding two
Speaker 1: peace activists is really you know, the telling point there
Speaker 1: where they really don't care what you believe. They will,
Speaker 1: you know, exactly, chop off your head no matter what.
Speaker 1: So tell the truth, let your kids know what you
Speaker 1: really believe. I think that's the way we need to
Speaker 1: be proceeding from here. Thank you so much, the incredible
Speaker 1: Dave Rubin, Thank you so much for coming on my show.
Speaker 1: Love talking to you, and we'll continue this over tequila.
Speaker 4: Thank you to the luxurious Carol Markoix. I will see
Speaker 4: you at that undisclosed location at seven pm tonight, Tequila
Speaker 4: on me.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Marcowig Show.
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