1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: A few episodes ago, I said that it's a cop 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: out to tell people that they should settle, because it's 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: the wrong advice to give. It's the nice advice. 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: It tells people that they are perfect just the way 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: they are, and their standards are simply too high, and 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: that's just generally not the case. There's a meme I 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: see shared a lot, especially around Valentine's Day. It says, 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: I'm selfish, impatient, and a little insecure. I make mistakes, 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: I'm out of control and at times hard to handle. 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: But if you can't handle me at my worst, then 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best. 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: The line is attributed to Marilyn Monroe, though there's no 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: evidence Monroe I ever actually said it. Sometimes the quote 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: is just the last line, that you can't handle me 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 2: at my worst, and you sure as hell don't deserve me. 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 3: At my best. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: It's usually accompanied by a picture of a smoking hot 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: Monroe oozing sex appeal and challenging anyone to not want 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: her even at her worst. But it's a deeply damaging idea. 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: For one thing, none of us are Marilyn Monroe for another. 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: The idea that we don't need to change anything about 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: ourselves and are perfect just the way we are can 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: hinder finding a good partner and a healthy relationship. The 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: fact is, if you are perpetually single and can never 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: meet anyone, there are probably some things you can change 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: about yourself. And despite what your friends have told you 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: in Unison, it probably isn't that you're just too awesome 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: for all the people you meet, too good for them, 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: too beautiful, too handsome, too amazing. There's probably something about 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: you that is repelling potential mates. It doesn't mean you're 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: a terrible person or this can't be solved, something that 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: needs to be fixed. 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: Women get this. 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Advice a lot, that you're just perfect just the way 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: you are and look. Men get a lot of terrible 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: advice too. 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, but women are the ones who 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: are always getting assured that they're just super perfect and 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: couldn't possibly make changes to attract a mate. Assuming you 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: know whether or not you're a woman or a man, 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: you have good hygiene, are not hideous to look at, 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: and you're probably. 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Not hideous to look at. 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: That's just the fact, and have no obvious problems, no 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: substance abuse or weird tattoos on your neck. The problem 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: is likely your personality. And if I may speculate a 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: bit further, it's almost definitely that you talk too much 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: about very little. If you're listening and you swear, look, 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: I don't smell bad, I look good. I don't feel 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: like I talk too much, It's time for a reality check. 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: There has to be one person in your life who 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 3: will be completely honest with you. 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: You need that person to tell you in a very 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: straightforward way, what you're doing wrong. It might not be 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: the amount you talk, but what you say. Do you 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: talk about bodily. 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: Functions, ex girlfriends, men who hit on you constantly? An 59 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: esoteric hobby you have that if you know anything about 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: Do you take any experience or event and relate it 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: immediately back to yourself with a story, no matter how 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: short to match. Do people shake their heads a lot 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: when they're talking to you, even in a playful, oh 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: you kind of way. It goes back to the problem 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: that I talked about a few episodes ago, which is 66 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: that people don't know how to flirt. We don't know 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: how to conversate. That's really what it is flirting is conversation. 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: If people say that's crazy a lot to you as 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: you're talking, you're not having a conversation. 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: You're delivering a monologue. 71 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: So I don't want you to settle, but I want 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: you to rearrange your personality to land a man or 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: a woman. No, I want you to rearrange your personality 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: so you can have a more fulfilling and interesting life, 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: the life you want. Everybody has the capacity. 76 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: To be boring or inappropriate. 77 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: It's the keeping it in check that makes you not 78 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: annoying to be around. This isn't just for a mate, 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: it's for you. Those people playfully shaking their heads at 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: your ridiculous tales have no other response to your stories, 81 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: but perhaps they are your friends, family, co workers, and 82 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: so have learned to adapt. The person of your dreams 83 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: might not want to. The best version of a conversation 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: isn't for the other person to say. 85 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: Mmmm mmmmm mm hmm. 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: It's for them to have something to say back to you. 87 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: Give them something interesting to respond to, and they will. 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening. 89 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: Coming up next and interview with Dave Rubin. Join us 90 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: after the break, Hi, and welcome back to the Carol 91 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is the amazing 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: Dave Rubin. Dave's host of The Ruben Report and co 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: founder of Locals. 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: So nice to have you on, Dave. 95 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: I like the amazing Dave Rubin. It sounds like I'm 96 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: like a washed up magician or something. The Amazing watch 97 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: where he pulls the rabbit from. 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: I was going to go with incredible, but that felt 99 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: like too much, you know, ah. 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: It is incredible, more over the top than amazing. I'm 101 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: not quite sure. We leave that to the audience. 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: I think so, I think incredible is you know, like 103 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: we'll save that for your second interview here. 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: You know, so. 105 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: You and I have a kind of symbiotic thing. 106 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Where we both moved to Florida within a few weeks 107 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: of each other, a few days of each other, and 108 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: we're coming up on two years now. 109 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: So how's it been. What's your favorite part? 110 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 4: Well? I know the exact day I arrived in Florida. 111 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Do you know your exact day? Because mine was December seventeenth, 112 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and it is a day that I 113 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: will never forget. I was fortunate enough that we have 114 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: a friend who's got some pretty good means, and we 115 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: didn't want to have our dog fly under the plane 116 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 4: on a commercial flight, so he let us borrow his plane. 117 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: It was only the second time that I've ever been 118 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: on a private plane, and you know, you get all 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: the drinks you want and the food you want, and 120 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: it was just great. And as we were landing, the 121 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: pilot said to me, do you want to sit in 122 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: the jump seat? That's kind of right behind the You're 123 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: in the cockpit in essence, but you're kind of right 124 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: behind the pilot. And I got in there, and it 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: was we were landing at about I think nine or 126 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: ten PM, and I kid you not. As we landed 127 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: in Miami International Airport, I felt something lift off my chest. 128 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: The last two years in LA I had lived there 129 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 4: for eight years, six years, were pretty great. My career 130 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: took off there. I did what you were supposed to 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: do if you go to LA it's to like follow 132 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: the dream. And I'm one of the lucky ones. I 133 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 4: suppose it worked. Whatever I was doing, it happened. But 134 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: then the two COVID years and the ridiculous recall, and 135 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: of course I campaigned with Larry Elder, and then I 136 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: got audited by the state. Three days after that, I 137 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: was just so ready to leave. I was so angry 138 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 4: at everybody. It's you know me, My general disposition is 139 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: pretty positive, but I hate everywhere i'd go. I just 140 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 4: hated everybody. I couldn't deal with the masks, all the nonsense. 141 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: And just like you, I moved to the place that 142 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 4: our friend and governor calls the Citadel of Freedom, and 143 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: I have loved every second of being here. I have 144 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: stayed here for two summers. And yes, it is warm, 145 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: I admit it, and you sweat and your hair is 146 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: a little bit lower. It is device to pay. They 147 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: also now have something I don't know if you have 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: this up where you are. We're a couple miles apart, 149 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: but you can actually put this device. It's like a 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: box in your window and you press a button and 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: it literally cow's going to blow your mind. It conditions 152 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: the air. I don't know what. 153 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: I'm in a sweater, I'm freezing in my house. 154 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: Thus proving the point these devices are. These devices are 155 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: readily available. So yes, I love everything about being in Florida. 156 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: And just one other quick thing for me, sort of 157 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 4: like existentially, what I've realized is I fought very hard 158 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: against the craziness of CAW for a long time. It 159 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: did spur me on in a lot of ways. It 160 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: made my show more valuable to be fighting against something 161 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: and all that. But I can tell you in the 162 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: two years of fighting for something here, maybe it's I'm 163 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: at the ripe old age of forty seven now, Like 164 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: I just I like fighting for something as opposed to 165 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: fighting against something. So that, Yeah, Florida love it. 166 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: Yes, do you feel like California? I mean I think 167 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: you do. But is it totally lost? 168 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: Cause, yeah, it's completely lost. It's a one party state. 169 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: There simply aren't enough good people there to fix it anymore. 170 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom, I think is basically the anti Christ and 171 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: or a lizard person who most likely is going to 172 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 4: be the nominee. I don't know how they're going to 173 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: do it, but they are getting bited and out of 174 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: the way. I know you and I don't fully see 175 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: eyed eye on that one, which for you I think 176 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: is more of a timing thing. But I just think 177 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: there is no trick that these people cannot do right 178 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: in front of our faces. They'll just do it. They'll 179 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: push the black Lady out of the way. They'll do 180 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: it right in front of our eyes. They'll spin the 181 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 4: chair around and it'll be Gavin like, it's so dangerous, 182 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: they're so evil, and it's so But no, I have 183 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: no hope because you know the other thing that's happened 184 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: is that as we've had this massive migration, the red 185 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: states are getting redder and the blue are getting bluer. 186 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 4: So all of think about if I literally could sit here, 187 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: probably for the next twenty minutes and go through all 188 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: of the people and businesses that I know that moved 189 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: from Cali and came here to Florida. Now plenty of 190 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: them moved by the way to Texas obviously in Tennessee, 191 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: but the amount of brain drain that California is suffering. 192 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: The good people who have left San Francisco left LA 193 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: and they've brought all of their talents and their businesses here, 194 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: and the people are voting here the right way, So 195 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: there just aren't enough good people. It's sort of like 196 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: New York City, and I know you're a Brooklyn girl. 197 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: It's like I was in New York City during nine 198 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: to eleven. I lived most of my formative years there, 199 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: in my early twenties into mid thirties, and it's like 200 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 4: there is no Giuliani left. There isn't. I mean, Rudy's there, 201 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: but I don't think he wants to run from mayor again. 202 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: But there aren't enough good people anymore. And you know 203 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: Lee Zelden, who nobody knew of until two weeks before 204 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: that gubernatorial election. He lost by about I think it 205 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: was four hundred and fifty thousand votes in New York. 206 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: About five hundred thousand people have fled New York in 207 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 4: the COVID years. So not to say that every single 208 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: one of them would have voted for him, and obviously 209 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: some of them are kids and everything else. But the 210 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: point is the difference, which isn't that great even in 211 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: New York, you know, a couple hundred thousand votes. It's 212 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: exacerbated by the fact that so many people have left. 213 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: And you know what, as a Floridian, I'll take it. 214 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 215 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: I feel bad for the people trying to vote themselves 216 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: to sanity in places like California and New York. But 217 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: you're right, there's just not enough of them. Although it 218 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: looks like Long Island is going pretty red and so 219 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: their pockets. But no, there's just you know, most of 220 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: us have gotten out, and I think that that's sort 221 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: of the future for anybody saying kind of left behind, which, 222 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, too bad, because those were a great states. 223 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: They were doing so well for a while. We were 224 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: able to coast on like good Republican leadership for so 225 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: long that we almost didn't notice how badly they were 226 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: falling apart. 227 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: But you know, here we. 228 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: Are, Carol. Do you remember, I'm sure we're going to 229 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: talk about Israel in a little bit, but do you 230 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: remember the last scene in both the play and or 231 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: a movie of Fiddler on the Roof, So you know 232 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: they're in that scene it a lot. Yeah, it's an 233 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 4: incredible moment. It's really one of my favorite moments in 234 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: movie history, because you know, they're realizing that they can't 235 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: stay in their steadle anymore and everything is falling apart, 236 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: and Tevia, who's obviously the main character, and his friend 237 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 4: Laser Wolf they're trying to figure out where they're going 238 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: to go. And I might slightly butcher this, but in essence, 239 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: his friend Laser is like, I'm going to Chicago, and 240 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 4: he's like, I'm going to New York. And it's like 241 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: they don't know what they're saying. You could be saying, 242 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to Mars and I'm going to Venus. It's 243 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 4: like they're just they're going to what they view as 244 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: something better than where they're at. And I would say 245 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: to anyone who is saying that wants to live in 246 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 4: a safe, free place, you really should move to a 247 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: red state. But only do it if you're going to 248 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: vote the right way, because unfortunately, the history of freedom 249 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: and free people is an aberration. The default situation for 250 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 4: humans is autocracy and authoritarianism and everything else. And you know, 251 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: if you live in New York right now, like, do 252 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: you feel like if someone broke into your house that 253 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: they would do any of the police would do anything. 254 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: Do you feel like if a mob ran by your store? 255 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: I know it was your friend in New York City, 256 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: they went by her store. It's like, do you think 257 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: the authorities will do anything or do you think that 258 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 4: they'll basically give a you know, a speech about Islamophobia, 259 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: like we've got everything backwards in most of the places, 260 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 4: but not every place. 261 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the fact that you can't protect yourself, like 262 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: you and I went gun shopping a few weeks ago. 263 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: That was a good time I mean something you just 264 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: can't can't do in New York or la And you know, 265 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: so you can't count on anybody to protect you, but 266 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: you also can't protect yourself. The double whemming of that 267 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: about the Fiddler on the Roof scene. You know, what 268 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: I've thought about a lot is that they're leaving. They're 269 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: really upset they have to leave their home. But if 270 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: you think about it, those are the luckiest. 271 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: Jews in like history. They get out, Okay, they have 272 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: the programs. 273 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, things are not going well, 274 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: but they get out at the turn of the century, 275 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: out of Europe. They end up missing, you know, the Holocaust. 276 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: They are living in America. Their ancestors are the Jewish 277 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: voices for peace now because they've lived in like this 278 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: complete safety for so long. Those turn of the century 279 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: Jews are always the ones that their ancestors, their grandchildren, 280 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: their great grandchildren always end up being far left because 281 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: they've had this security of America for so long that 282 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: they don't even know what it could be like if 283 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: they had stayed and ATEFKA. 284 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's a lot to say about that. 285 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: First off, I would say on like Jewish voices for 286 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 4: peace or any of these ridiculous organizations. Most of them 287 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: are not Jewish voices. It's largely like Islamists and crazed Marxists. 288 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: They put jew in there so that it looks good 289 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 4: when they're protesting, like I'm a Jew for Palestine, which 290 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: is very different than Palestine for Jews, like queers for 291 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: Palestine and everything else. So largely it's not Jews that 292 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: have anything to do with that. Your broader point though, 293 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: of you know what assimilation does generations down the line, 294 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: and what sort of like the ultimate promise of freedom, 295 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: you know, freedom. What you want is freedom from you 296 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: want freedom from oppression. That's what That's what Teva would 297 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: have wanted in Antecma. But you don't. But but freedom too, 298 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: where it's then just do whatever the hell you want 299 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: and nothing is real and anything is up in the 300 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: air and all those things. That's what unfortunately has led 301 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: to a lot of I don't really want to make 302 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: it about Jews, but a lot of what I would 303 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: say are modern woke leftists. It's like they just say 304 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: all these things and none of these things mean anything. 305 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: For example, there was a you just texted me something 306 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: like an hour ago from this guy who I think 307 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: writes it. We don't even have to mention his name, 308 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: but he writes at New York Magazine or New York 309 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: or one of these things, and you know, and you 310 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: could tell he's just like a New York like. I 311 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: just like can't stand I can't stand their affect. I 312 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: feel like they all have bad breath and they don't 313 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: they eat too much, so I just ate that whole thing. 314 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: They're all kind of asexual. I just can't stand it. 315 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: But you know, he wrote something like, you know, Jews 316 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: living in occupied territories is a problem, but you know, 317 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: we shouldn't be racist together. And it's like, and I responded, 318 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: I because I was waiting to do this show with you, 319 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: and I had a moment and I was like, why 320 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: should I think or sit for a moment. I'll just right. 321 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: I was like, let's fight with someone on Twitter. But 322 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 4: I wrote, why is it? Why do you think that 323 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: Jews in occupied lands are a problem? Because what he's 324 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: saying is the West Bank is occupied, but I mean 325 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: it's known as Judea and Samarian's where the story of 326 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: Hankka took place. 327 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: He hasn't read the story of Hanukkah come on, that guy. 328 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: You know the story of Hanukkah that Jews have been 329 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: telling for thousands of years. Jesus of Nazareth, he was 330 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: a pretty popular Jew Nazareth. You're not going to believe. 331 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: This was in Judae and Samari. What we now know 332 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: is West Bank. But but these lefties, they just say 333 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: things and it's all meaningless drivel, just so that I 334 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: don't know. I honestly don't even know what it is anymore. 335 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: I'm so far removed from it. It's just so that 336 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: they feel like they can be lofty or right about something. 337 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: But yes, they end up dragging the rest of us 338 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: to hell with them. I guess. 339 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: The sticker said settlers are a problem in it was 340 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: like in occupied territories and in Brooklyn. 341 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: That's like sort of what it was about. 342 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: And this guy was like trying to pretend that they 343 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: didn't mean Jews by the settlers. 344 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: It's like, come on, like seriously. 345 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: But that thing, that thing where it's like you offer pennance. 346 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: So what he's trying to do there, and again we 347 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: don't have to make about him specifically, but these have 348 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: people they try to offer some penance. So yes, settlers 349 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: in occupied territories are a problem. Well that sort of 350 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: sounds right, I guess, but like, also without getting too far, 351 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: that there is no occupation. There's never been an occupation. 352 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: The British left the area known as Palestine, which is 353 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: historic Israel. So all these people that are like there's 354 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 4: a seventy five year occupation, it's like, okay, congratulations, I 355 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: want the British Empire to come back. I guess we 356 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: could go back two hundred years and really mess with 357 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: the Ottomans. That would be fun. Like it's just such nonsense. 358 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: But none of this should surprise us, because if you don't, 359 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: if no one ever stands up for the truth, and 360 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: if we live in a time when boys or girls 361 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: and America's fundamentally raisist and all these other things, then 362 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 4: how do you expect anyone to know the history of 363 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: the Holy Land? You know what I mean? If literally 364 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: you're like chopping Yeah, We're. 365 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: Going to take a quick break and be right back 366 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: on the Carol Marcowitch Show. So I was going to 367 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: ask you in the last two years, you know, we 368 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: started with Florida, we got into Israel, but you had 369 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: some major changes. You became a father, and you know, 370 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: is that, Like, what's that been? 371 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 4: Like? 372 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 3: Are you are you the cool dad? 373 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 4: Well, I'm definitely the more fun dad because I'm mostly 374 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 4: in this studio all day long and working all day long, 375 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: so I get my studio, of course, is in my house, 376 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: so I get to just kind of show up in 377 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: the room and like pick everybody up and throw them 378 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: around and spin them around and do all the fun 379 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 4: things all the time I do. There are some diaper 380 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: changes involved in some you know, putting down for naps 381 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. But David, my husband, is 382 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: doing most of like the heavy lifting in that regard, 383 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 4: and we have some help his sister and his sister, 384 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 4: my sister in law is living with us helping with 385 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 4: knights and things like that, and we have a close 386 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: enough family with people visiting all the time that there's 387 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 4: a lot of the pieces there. But it's incredible, Like 388 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: it's frustrating and crazy and maddening and sometimes like I'm 389 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: like my brain if like I can't the screaming or 390 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 4: just like these kids are so well behaved, they're so 391 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: fun and great, but like sometimes just like they're both 392 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 4: screaming at once and like I'm trying to like work 393 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: through something that I'm going to do on the show, 394 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: and it's like all this craziness, but then at the end, 395 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: you know, like it's giving you this this thing that 396 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: cannot be described exactly. You know, last week I was 397 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: in London for Jordan Peterson's art conference and he gave. 398 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 4: He gave what I honestly believe and I toured with 399 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 4: this guy, so we did one hundred and twenty shows 400 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 4: in about a year and a half. It was the 401 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: best speech I've ever heard him give, and really he 402 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: was what he was saying, and I can like dumb 403 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: it down in like the craziest way. 404 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: In thirty yeah for us, come on? 405 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: Is he was actually telling the story of Jacob's Ladder, 406 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: the biblical story of Jacob's Ladder that basically, if you 407 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: in your life do the right thing, so you find 408 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: the spouse you're supposed to be with, you start being 409 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: the person you're supposed to be, You raise your family 410 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: right that in essence, you're you're sort of bringing about 411 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: God by doing that, because you're like giving yourself over 412 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: to something that's better. You don't know why exactly. It's 413 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 4: frustrating and it's crazy, but then by doing that, you 414 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: start building the ladder, Jacob's ladder. Jacob's ladder. The highest 415 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 4: point of Jacob's ladder would be ultimately sort of not 416 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: that you could ever know God, but it would be 417 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: like it would be like the thing that you want 418 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: to attain. You're like putting a ladder towards Heaven something 419 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 4: like that, and that if you do a little of 420 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 4: the good stuff in your life, you can start building 421 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 4: those ladder, those steps on the ladder up. And I 422 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: kind of think that that's what I've learned in the 423 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: year of having kids. It's like you don't know exactly 424 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 4: where that ladder is going. You're building this ladder, and 425 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 4: you know it's the right thing to build, and it's 426 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: annoying at times. And like, I don't drink tequila at 427 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: two pm in the hot tub anymore, which was one 428 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 4: of my favorite things. 429 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: I was gonna say. I thought you were gonna say, 430 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: I don't drink tequila. I was like, you drink tequila, no, and. 431 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: We will drink yes, I will see you later this evening, 432 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: but not at two pm on Saturdays in the hot 433 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: tub anymore. And so you sacrifice some things for I 434 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: don't know the linkage of humans that they have been 435 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: doing since the beginning of time. I guess that's probably 436 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: pretty good. 437 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: It's deep burthering civilization, you know, one baby at a time. 438 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: So you have a huge show, you have a great family, 439 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: you live in the free estate in the country. 440 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you've made it? 441 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: Well, I guess I feel like I've made it in 442 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 4: that Like I'm financially secure, and I wasn't for a 443 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: long long time in my career. It took a long time, 444 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: like fifteen years to really get to that point. I 445 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 4: mean when I was even when I was like maybe 446 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 4: thirty eight or thirty nine, Like we basically had nothing 447 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 4: when we moved to la in twenty thirteen. We had, 448 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: may I kid you not, we had maybe five thousand 449 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: dollars between the two of us. I mean, I didn't 450 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: have three months rent even, and we were making nothing. 451 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 4: And I left there a millionaire. I guess, so, like 452 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: that is the dream. You know. I built a tech company, 453 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: not even because it was the right or not because 454 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: it was the smart thing to do, but it was 455 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: the right thing to do. Like I didn't realize how 456 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 4: much work it was going to be. In the two 457 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: years of my life spent on zoom calls asking investors 458 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: for money. That became my job even more than the 459 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 4: Reuben Report. But it worked out. Locals worked out, and 460 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: we eventually merged with Rumble. So, like I guess by 461 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 4: make it like I made it in that I wake 462 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: up every day doing the thing that I am supposed 463 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: to be doing and hopefully like fixing a world so 464 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 4: that those two kids that don't let me drink tequila 465 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: in the hot tub at two pm on a Saturday, 466 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: like can live a pretty decent life. So if that 467 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: basically is what making it is, which I guess, I 468 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 4: guess if you would have asked me at twenty, you know, 469 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: when I was standing on street corns handing out tickets 470 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: in Times Square for stand up shows when I was broke. 471 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 4: I mean, I had a friend. I had no money, 472 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: and I had a friend, my buddy John, who was 473 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 4: in food service, and he used to he would drop 474 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: off like industrial size things of tuna. I'm talking about 475 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: five pound vacuum sealed bag of tuna, and I would 476 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: just eat tuna for two weeks straight, like I Am 477 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: going to die of mercury poisoning. 478 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: How is there no picture of a young Dave Reuben 479 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: eating giant industrial size tuna. 480 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're probably right. He used to give me huge cans, 481 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 4: like you can't even believe you've never seen a can 482 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: like this, maybe in the army of soup that they 483 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: you know, like just like the most sodium laced soup 484 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: that they would serve in the worst diner in Queens. 485 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 4: And I would just eat soup and tuna just to survive. 486 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 4: I mean, between the salt and the mercury. Like it's 487 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 4: a miracle in here, honestly. 488 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 3: And you look at me, you know, you look really good. 489 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: You're very youthful looking for all that mercury. 490 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 4: Forty seven years old, I'll take it. I'm actually at 491 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: my lowest weight probably since college I got you know, 492 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: I was always like I've always been like sort of 493 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: relatively fit, but I just kind of could cut sugar 494 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: a little bit more. And and I also think like 495 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: when you're when you're like roughly living the life you're 496 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 4: supposed to be living, yeah, the other like your weight 497 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 4: or whatever, like you start doing the little things on 498 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: the margins to fix that. So it's one thing if 499 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: you're like hugely obese and then your life starts getting fixed. 500 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: It's going to take a little bit more time, but 501 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: I was like within the margins of what kind of worked. 502 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, so you know, also the two pm tequila drinking, 503 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: it comes back a lot faster than you think. Like 504 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: in a few years, they're like self sufficient, you could 505 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: do whatever you want. They don't even want to hang 506 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: out with you at two pm on a weekend anymore. 507 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: They're like, I'm going to the mall my friends. 508 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 4: So yeah, you know that is that is good to know. 509 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: You're You're another You're another good example of what Florida 510 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 4: does for someone when they're when they're living the life 511 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: that they're supposed to be living. Because I know how 512 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 4: connected you. 513 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: Hey, this is my show. 514 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'm turning it on you for a moment 515 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: because I know and your audience knows you were deeply, 516 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 4: deeply connected to Brooklyn and your community there and all 517 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 4: that stuff. It was not easy to do it, but 518 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: you did it. And the cool thing is that, I mean, 519 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 4: We're going to dinner tonight with this great group of 520 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 4: people that I did not know, and I think maybe 521 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: I knew Dave or Boy before all this, but I 522 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 4: didn't really know any of these guys before this, and 523 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 4: we've all become friends, and it's like we're fighting for 524 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: the same things and and it's it's fun when you're 525 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 4: doing that, and that's more fun. That's more fun than 526 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 4: you know. I used to have great, great parties in 527 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: LA and during COVID, we'd have these illegal parties and 528 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: I'd have all these cool you know, influencers and celebrities 529 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: and whatever at my house. But we were always talking 530 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: about how horrible it was there. So right, that's very 531 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: different than when we all get together and we're like, oh, 532 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 4: we're in. 533 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: The promise, it's amazing, so good here, it's true. 534 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: We really we have a good group, and it's nice 535 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: to be fighting for kind of to maintain it, right, 536 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: we're not fighting to change very much. 537 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 3: We're like, let's just keep it the way that this is. 538 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 4: By the way, that's work. That's working. Sure, a lot 539 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 4: of people don't realize that, Like we have to really 540 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: maintain that, Like, regardless of what happens with the presidential situation, 541 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: either DeSantis remains our governor or he goes on to 542 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: be president, which would be incredible in Florida. 543 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 3: Run a free role. 544 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Like we have to make sure that the 545 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: institutions that are strong right now. Look, most people in 546 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: New York didn't think New York would be this bad 547 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: this quick, same macaut So it's as strong as Florida is. 548 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: And the demographics are really shifting in our favor, just 549 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 4: if you look at voter roles and everything else. But 550 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: anything could happen, and whether it's six years from now 551 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 4: or ten years from now, I want to stop it 552 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: from happening. 553 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, we have to preserve what we have, and 554 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: what we have is so good. I mean, So, what 555 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: would you say is our biggest societal or cultural problem 556 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: in America? 557 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: And do you think it's solvable? 558 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 4: I mean, the biggest problem is that we are We 559 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: are in a society that is driven by lies everywhere, everywhere, 560 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 4: almost across the board, institutionally, CDCNIH media, CNN, Washington BOST 561 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 4: New York Times, politicians, almost everything is driven by lives. 562 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: And that's why I think I've said to you in 563 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, like it's not that surprising 564 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: to me that we're at this weird moment right now. 565 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 4: Like if you say to literally two generations of young people, 566 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 4: your genitals have nothing to do with your biology. If 567 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: you say to them that America, the freest country in 568 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 4: the history of the world, is actually systemically racist, that 569 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: socialism is better than capitalism, that two plus two equals five. 570 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: If you take everything known, that people who have lived 571 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: much worse, much more difficult lives than us, Carol fought 572 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: for that, our ancestors fought for, many died for to 573 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: get us to this place. Then you scramble it all up, 574 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 4: and you live in a time where every virtually everyone 575 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: across the board is just lying about everything. I think 576 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 4: it was Alexander Sultchanitsen who said that the one thing 577 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: you can do is not participate in the lie. And 578 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: that's what I'm try trying to do, and I think 579 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: it's the only way we can get out of this thing. 580 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: You know, there was I played a clip on my 581 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: show this morning of Trump at this uh there was 582 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: this Florida conference this weekend where they were talking. You know, 583 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: they had Santas there and Trump there and all the 584 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: Florida people are there. And Trump was talking about how 585 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: great Republican states were about COVID and he mentioned South Dakota, 586 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 4: Georgia or whatever, and he doesn't say Florida, and he Obviously, 587 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: he knows Florida is the best. He knows DeSantis was 588 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: the best, but he doesn't say Florida while he's in Florida, 589 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: the state that he lives in and all his kids 590 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 4: live in and his grand kids live in, because he 591 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: doesn't want to give Disanta's credit. And the audience starts 592 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: booing him, which is very rare for him, and you 593 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 4: could see he kind of he has this weird smile 594 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: and he's kind of back on his heels for a minute. 595 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 4: And it's not that that lie. At this point, he's 596 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 4: made that lie. That was a lie by omission. But 597 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 4: it's not that it's so egregious, like it's the worst 598 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: thing ever, like saying I don't know that Ted Cruz 599 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: his dad killed JFK or something like that. 600 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: It might be right, it's. 601 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: Not that it's so egregious, other than what I've really 602 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 4: come around to is that we can't fix the problems 603 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: with lies. Right. So if you think that the Democrats 604 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: and the Wokesters and the institutions are lying about everything, 605 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 4: I don't think that the answer to that is more lying. 606 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: And that really is why I've been supporting DeSantis, and 607 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 4: he makes it easy to do so, and maybe it'll 608 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: work and maybe it won't, but I know that I'll 609 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: have my integrity intact at the end, and I think 610 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: that's worth something. 611 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, truth matters so much. I think you know more 612 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: than ever for all the reasons that you said. I 613 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: think that when we start pretending that the lies are 614 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: the truth, we're all in a terrible situation. 615 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree with you there. 616 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: I can keep talking to you for an hour, but 617 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: you know we're running out of time, So end here 618 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: with your best tip for my listeners on how they 619 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: can improve their lives. 620 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it's the most cliche thing, but the best 621 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 4: thing that you can do is tell people what you 622 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: actually think, and this is the time to do it 623 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 4: more than ever. I have no doubt, Carol, that you've 624 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: received as many texts screenshots of texts as I have 625 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: in the last couple of weeks of friends of mine saying, man, 626 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: can you believe what my friend said to me about this? 627 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: Or they're posting hamas propaganda, or they think there's a 628 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: genocide happening in Gaza, or the litany across the board 629 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: of craziness, and they'll either say, you know, I don't 630 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: want to fight back or I don't want and it's like, man, 631 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 4: you know, if you don't fight back, if you bury 632 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: your head in the sand, you just get beheaded a 633 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: little bit lower on the neck. Or the frog in 634 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: the pot, like you can just sit there and the 635 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: temperature will constantly be turned up and you'll be like, oh, 636 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to upset everybody, and you know, and 637 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: then eventually you're a boiled frog. And I've had frog's 638 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: legs and they're not great. It's just not great. And 639 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: that's what people have to do. You have to speak 640 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: up because they're praying on the fact that we won't 641 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: speak up. You have to call out the nonsense. And 642 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: that's not to say that people won't be mean to 643 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: you or say weird things to you on Twitter or 644 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: whatever else. But like, if you think that your silence 645 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: is doing you any favors, it is just delaying the inevitable. 646 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: And especially I guess if you have kids, you damn 647 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: well better do it, because then you're doing the ultimate 648 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: ultimate disservice to your children, which is your your acquiescence 649 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: is handing them a world that is worse than the 650 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: one that was handed to you. And I can't imagine 651 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 4: anything worse that a parent could do. 652 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: It's right. 653 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the fact that Hamas is holding two 654 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: peace activists is really you know, the telling point there 655 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: where they really don't care what you believe. They will, 656 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, exactly, chop off your head no matter what. 657 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: So tell the truth, let your kids know what you 658 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: really believe. I think that's the way we need to 659 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: be proceeding from here. Thank you so much, the incredible 660 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Dave Rubin, Thank you so much for coming on my show. 661 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: Love talking to you, and we'll continue this over tequila. 662 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 4: Thank you to the luxurious Carol Markoix. I will see 663 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 4: you at that undisclosed location at seven pm tonight, Tequila 664 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: on me. 665 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Marcowig Show. 666 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.