WEBVTT - Drive Time: Dolphins Packers Week 13 Preview 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.080 To on the Move, Darling, Deep Speedways, Peace Do Hell. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:10.400 From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:18.079 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my hav 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.400 hands in the playoffs. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.560 What is up, Dolph Fans and welcome to the Draft 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.360 Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfold. On today's show, 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.880 we are diving into a preview that I am as 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.959 excited up, excited up, as excited and fired up as 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.080 I've been, I want to say, since the Week two 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:46.800 Buffalo game. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.680 But we know how that went, so maybe the Cowboys 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.560 game last year. It's gonna be a great game on Thanksgi. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.280 We're gonna talk about every single aspect of this matchup 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.720 and why I think it could be an instant classic. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.400 From the Baptist Health Studios inside the bat Do Health 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:01.240 Training Complex. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.280 This is the Draft Time Podcast. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:08.080 Ye you know, now with the benefit of hindsight hearing 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.240 Carolinees Dolphins first down drop after she has now been 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.160 to the stadium to hear Kenny Walkers. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.720 That's another Miami Dolphins. 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.760 I kind of like it even more now and I 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.720 like this matchup on Thursday night as much as I 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.199 have any Dolphins game this entire season, and it's because 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.280 I think we have two really really good offenses set 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.240 to do battle in a game that is going to 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.600 come with the expectation of low scoring running game action 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.760 because of the temperature, and I think that is utter 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.319 hogwash bowl pucky, as my late great mother used to say. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.640 Week thirteen, at the Green Bay Packers lambeau Field eight 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.360 to twenty kickoff, make it earlier on NBC. Twenty seven 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.600 degrees at kickoff, a five percent chance of snow, and 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.280 roughly eight to twelve mile an hour per mile per 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.480 hour wins. It's not going to be much of a 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.080 factor outside of a little bit of chilly weather, which 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:00.960 if you're typing in the press box and you have 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.800 to have fingerless gloves, maybe it impacts you then. But 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.200 for football players, like OJ McDuffie says, you're not thinking 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:07.960 about the temperature. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:08.760 You're playing football. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.880 You're having fun, You're out there and you're hot because 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.679 you're running around. So I don't think it's gonna matter 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.680 all that much. I saw a great article and I'm 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:17.640 going to do the ultimate Cardinals sitting here. I'm not 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.440 gonna reference who wrote it because I don't remember who 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:20.640 wrote it, And I'm not gonna look it up right 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.880 now because it's four point thirty on Tuesday, and I 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.519 have a couple more things before I get to go home, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:25.639 and I don't have to work. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:26.960 On Wednesday, and I want to go home. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:32.240 Yes, but the article was that the cold weather narrative 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.320 on TUA is a farce and basically points to that 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.680 Bill's game, I think from twenty twenty two when it 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.800 was freezing cold and he balled out in that game. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.679 So let's go ahead and get into this and meet 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.880 the Packers here. As you heard me say on the 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.000 Tuesday episode with Wes, if I had to pick an 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.080 NFC team, I think it's between the Packers and Cardinals 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.120 in terms of who I just like the most. And 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.079 I used to be like, remember back when the Dolphins 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.040 were always on the outside looking in, And maybe you're 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.120 not like this, but I always found myself trying to 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.040 find a secondary team and the passion and the love 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.160 and all that stuff wasn't the same, but just someone 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.840 to be like, I want them to win. And it 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.160 was the Chargers for a long time with Chris Chambers 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.280 when he got there, and it has been the Packers 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.080 a lot of times in the past, but right now 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.000 it's the Packers and the Cardinals. I love the two 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.280 quarterbacks of those teams, and I just love the way 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.400 the Packers were built. I love their head coach, and 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.600 it's been pretty consistent outside of the pivot to their 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.560 third straight franchise quarterback covering thirty years. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:26.360 Isn't that crazy? 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.400 They acquired Brett Favre, who it revealed himself to be 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.200 an actual garbage human being, but they acquired him in 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.200 nineteen ninety two and haven't had a season without a 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.800 franchise quarterback since then. I mean, they literally went from 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:43.280 him to Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love, like whoa oh, oh, oh, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.440 oh my, and this next one, Jordan Love like he 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.119 has every opportunity to be the best of the three. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.160 And I know that's probably crazy, because you know, people 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.160 forget how great Aaron Rodgers was before he became or 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.200 before he was revealed to be an absolute sociopath. But 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.960 Jordan Love has harnessed elite traits with good football acumen 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.000 and become one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.240 I think you can make the argument the top half 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.680 of the or the half of the top like ten 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.480 or twelve quarterbacks in the league. We're drafted in twenty 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.520 twenty like pretty crazy to think about. When it's all 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.040 said and done, I think we're going to look at 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.680 nineteen eighty eight, nineteen eighty three rather two thousand and 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.120 four and twenty twenty in similar veins. As for Lafleur, well, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:22.719 all he does is win. I'm not going to play 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.839 the drop, and maybe seeing Rodgers dismantle another organization should 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.719 make us respect Lafleur's years there with Rogers even more. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.560 He takes over in twenty nineteen, he inherits a six 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.960 to nine to one team that that quarterback got Mike 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.479 McCarthy fired, and then he goes to the NFC Championship 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.880 game in back to back years with thirteen wins each 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.640 of those years and damn near beats. Tom bradyes Buccaneers 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.560 that second time around, wins thirteen games the next year 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.960 with a very disappointing Divisional round exit with ten points 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.680 in in Green Bay against San Francisco and Mike McDaniel's Niners. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.919 Then the season finale lost in twenty twenty two to 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.200 miss out on the postseason at eight to nine against 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.520 Detroit the departure of Rogers, Jordan Love comes in right 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.680 away and they start two to five and people think 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.480 that Jordan Love can't play, and then he goes absolutely 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.839 nuclear and finishes that campaign. I believe they went eight 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.920 and two the rest of the way and got themselves 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.200 a blowout victory as well, and nearly eclipped the Niners 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.320 in the divisional round of the playoffs last year. And 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.800 then here we are and they're eight and three in 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.320 twenty twenty four. And those Niners teams have been the 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.839 bane of Lafleur's existence, haven't they, Even without Perdy and 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.200 Bosa and Ayuk and Trent Williams. On Sunday, I imagine 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.839 that drubbing of the Niners was a bit of an 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.960 exercised demon for that football team. And then with the 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.680 Lions coming up next week on Thursday, so it's not 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.960 a mini buye for the Packers, they have to get 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.359 right back to work on Friday. In some ways, I 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.040 think that we are the overlook game, as crazy as 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.000 that sounds, because I think that we are like a 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.200 top five football team today in the National Football League. 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.440 But I also know that staff is too good to 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.239 let that be a thing. And they also are aware 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.760 of Mike McDaniel. I mean, Matt Lafleur knows him as 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.520 well anybody. And they're not going to sleep on this 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.600 coaching staff and this talent. So as far as how 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.720 this thing was assemble for the Packers, it's classic Packers fashion, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.000 draft and develop. They brought up a bunch of young 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.520 receivers with Jordan Love. Jaden Reid's kind of the Deebo 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.040 Samuel type of guy for them. He gets carries and 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.680 motions and pre snap that helps them dictate how the 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.760 defense moves because teams typically have an eye on where 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.080 he might be pre snap. He was their second round 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.040 draft pick in twenty twenty three. Their second round draft 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.160 pick in twenty twenty two is kind of next in 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.640 the pecking order and Christian Watson and he's a built 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.080 in a lab receiver six foot three, four to three speed. 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.080 Romeo Dobbs is going to miss the game from a 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.160 concussion on Sunday. Dolphins catch a break by missing him. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.760 And then Dantavian Wicks was a fifth round draft pick 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.159 in twenty three also, and he's a really good player. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.120 Luke Musgrave he's down and he was an awesome player 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.560 before he got hurt. And his draft mate, third round 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.159 pick Tucker Craft, is also very good and he leads 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.119 the team with six touchdown receptions. And then the big 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.480 eligible free agent was Josh Jacobs, who just brings the 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.480 entire He's the rug that brings the whole room together, right, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.960 the big Lebowski. That's what they did on defense as well. 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.360 They built this core around draft picks like Kenny Clark, 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.960 Rashaan Garry, Lucas van Ness, Jay r Alexander and they 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.480 go out and they drop the big free agent in 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.679 the secondary and Xavier McKinney, who has what a league 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.880 leading seven interceptions this year. It's a damn good football 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.640 team and a great test for your red hot Miami Dolphins. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.600 Let's go ahead and start off as we do every 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.600 single Well, it's not Thursday. The show's on Wednesday, but 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.000 we did the previous shows on Thursday with the Packers offense. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.400 You kind of know this part. It's one of the 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.760 more complex, creative, difficult to prepare for run games in 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.160 the entire National Football League. I'm sure if you watch 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.600 that Niners game after our drumming of the Patriots, you're like, 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.440 whoa that looks familiar. I remember asking Kalaius Campbell how 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.880 tough this Dolphins offense is to play against, and he said, 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.000 for a guy like me that's so big on tels 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.920 and reads and anticipation, it makes me go back to 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.200 like my rookie year before, I had the sixteen year 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.520 rollodex of knowledge of how to play certain looks and 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.880 how to at certain pre snap alignments. And it's more 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.320 read and react because they have so many false keys 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.120 that can take you out of the play if you 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.560 let them do that. And I'm watching this tape and 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.560 my goodness, are they in full form. They hit the 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.440 Niners with the first one hundred yard rusher they've allowed 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.240 in fifty four games. That's a great stat that I 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.120 stole from yesterday's show with Wes Hodwitch. And then you 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.520 get your super athletic, elastic armed quarterback who has games 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.880 where he sees it literally as well as anybody else 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.960 and goes for these just bonkers games, Baby Billies, Baba Bunkers. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:31.840 The key is going. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.040 I'm watching Righteous Gemstones again right now, so you might 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.040 get small references here on the show. Highly recommend anything 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.320 Danny McBride does. Recommend watching that the key is going 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.400 to be making him not see it that well, how 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.960 do you do that? I mean, they're gonna run man 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.760 beaters at you. They're gonna have pressure beaters, They're gonna 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.840 have outside zone with play action game Max protection shot plays. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.440 You know what it is, you know how to attack it. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.800 You have to play incredibly disciplined and pretty much back 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.320 close to one thousand with your pressure looks in terms 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.120 of how you marry up your coverage with that pressure. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.840 Like against the Patriots, for instance, on that one pressure 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.680 look where Drake may just completely missed pop Douglass in 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.040 the slot, you can't have that because Jordan Love is 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.679 gonna hit that receiver. You can go back to last year, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.720 even like the Chiefs game, when Spagnolo came after Love 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.800 time and time again, and he was just getting pressure 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.880 and having answers to those pressures after answer to those pressures, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.200 and a lot of that was because the Packers' receivers 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.160 were either able to win at the catch point, which 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.520 sometimes you're just gonna have to tip your cap they 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.440 do that, or get open before time and being on 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.240 the same page timing wise with Jordan Love, they can 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.920 get to their concepts from various formations, but I do 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.960 think the loss of Luke Muskgrave makes things a little 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.720 bit more one dimensional in terms of how. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:43.360 They present it. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.760 Musgrave played one hundred and eight snaps in the three 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.599 and a half games that he was healthy for, and 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.480 the next tight end has played one hundred and fifty 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.319 two snaps all year long. So they do reduce their 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.559 twelve personnel groupings big time that way, and as a result, 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.280 Tucker Kraft is a player that went from like fifty 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.440 percent snaps last year to eighty six percent this year, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.200 and that could be part of the rookie to sophomore 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.720 year development. But I think it has something to do 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.240 with the fact that they don't really have another tight 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.719 end behind him they like besides Luke Musgrave, who's down 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.480 right now now. They also do not roster a fullback, 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.160 but they will use these tight ends and or f's 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.800 in that capacity. Keep an eye on Ben Simms in 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.640 that regard, but I don't really think that he's a 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.880 problem for us. And then even some Chris Brooks, they'll 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.439 throw him out there in some of those weird roles 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.360 at times as well. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.240 You guys know who he is. I think you have 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:29.679 to force the issue off the edge. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.720 We saw the Packers do this against the Niners offense, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.560 where they would blitz the backside of the run play 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.720 action game and the quarterback when he pulls it on 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.480 the boot, he's immediately hot and brock purty like he 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.760 handles that. But Brandon Allen could not handle that, and 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.920 with love he can make you miss, but he can 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.840 also alter the armslot and beat you that way too. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.640 I keep thinking about that Ramsey sack when we sim 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.480 pressure with delayed blitzer from both he and Tyrel Dotson 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.480 and just cut off all the escape avenues. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.760 For Drake May to move to his right. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.880 Quite frankly, I'm kind of glad we saw May ahead 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.760 of this matchup because in terms of pocket mobility, stature, 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.760 and strength and balance to absorb those hits, it's kind 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.720 of similar. Let's go ahead and take a look at 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.160 the big three against the Packers offense, and number one 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.439 is you have to play with impeccable gap discipline against 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.640 both the run and the pass because that Niners tape 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.040 had a bunch of great stuff from the run game perspective. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.880 If they do a lot of orbit and jet and 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.520 return motion that we do where they can get you 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.400 playing a beat slower, and if you get that, if 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.560 you get slowed down at all, you're gonna wind up 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.320 getting out leveraged. And then the open that opens up 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.680 these massive holes for a back that is really smart, quick, 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.040 and super powerful, like he is an absolute load. Josh 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.280 Jacobs is I saw Mina Kaimes tweet about good backs 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.640 behind good offensive lines and how effective that has been 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.600 around the league this year with Philly, Green Bay and Detroit, Like, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.600 that's what you're dealing with here, a very good offensive 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.199 line that has a very good running back and a 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.160 very good quarterback and very good receivers. This is one 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.320 of the best offenses in the NFL. They do have 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.280 their les and their slumps, and you have to find 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:04.880 a way to get him into one of those. In 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.960 this game, they have continuity and talent up front with 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.240 a play car that has designed these run concepts for 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.240 years with these same guys, so it's gonna be second 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.520 nature for guys like Elton Jenkins, who's a top guard 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.880 or just a top offensive lineman in this league. And 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.480 we talk about this system and drafting offensive line right 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.720 Jenkins is literally the highest drafted interior offensive line for 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.920 anybody who's ever operated the Shanahan system. They don't take 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.960 him in the first round. They take him in the 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.360 second at highest and it's Elton Jenkins or at least 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.040 the ones that you're intimately aware of. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:34.480 You know, the. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.920 Mcvay's, the McDaniels, the Papa Shanahans, the Stefanski's ect and 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.960 he plays etc. I don't know, and he plays like it. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.520 So he's been there since twenty nineteen. Zach Tom was 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.720 a center at Wake Forest. I think he was a center, 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.320 maybe a guard, but he played both, and he's playing 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.120 tackle for the Packers. He's been there since twenty twenty 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.800 two and he's awesome. Rashid Walker's been there since twenty 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.360 two as well, and I was crazy about his game. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.679 And then center Josh Myers has been there since twenty one, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.720 a soon, super tough, smart athletics center in the pivot. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.560 It's interesting because we harp on the importance of continuity 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.480 in the offensive line, but the Packers having Jenkins and 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.000 Tom has allowed them to plug and play so many 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.640 different combinations. Both of those guys play all five spots, 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.200 but they have no issues moving them around to replace 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.360 injury players like a Jordan Morgan, their first round draft pick, who, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.720 quite frankly, I kind of wish he was up because 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.600 I think that Sean Ryan, the replacement for him, has 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.280 played better when he's replaced Morgan in games this year, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.199 and they've settled into this lineup that I think will 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.440 probably be their move going forward, and they communicate well, 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.439 they run block well, and they're pretty good in the 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.840 drop back game. Just watching the last few games, I 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.960 thought teams really struggled to get with against their outside game, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.199 and once you can hit a few of those runs 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.719 off the edge, gosh, it opens up the inside. And 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.120 I look for Jordan Brooks to have an important role 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.240 in this game. And I also love the way Dotson 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.360 played in relief of Anthony Walker. And McDaniel's already basically 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.400 declared Walker out for this game, so he's going to 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.599 be dots in this one. So you have to be 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.960 able to slow Jacobs before he builds up his speed, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.400 but you also need to be able to get vertical 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.559 and deal with these middle of the field options they 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.960 have in the passing game, whether it's Tucker Craft, be 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.880 it these receivers off in breakers. We just have to 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:18.920 play very attached and smart and anticipatory in the hook 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.360 zone and with our safety play over the middle. Jordan 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.240 Poyer scares the crap out of me in this game. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.680 Need his best game as a Dolphin by a long shot. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.760 You guys know how it goes when this system gets 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.400 the run game going and has short down in distances, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.720 It's so dangerous to deal with. So let's give ourselves 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.400 a chance by winning some early downs and really playing 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.800 with the best gap discipline you've had all year. Let's 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.600 go ahead and take a break right there, come back 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.600 on the other side and get to the second and 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.720 third points of emphasis against this Packers' offense. We'll also 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.240 talk about Tua against the Packers defense, and I think 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.160 that our boy can absolutely shred for a third straight game. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.760 That's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:04.280 to you by Auto Nation. I cannot tell you how 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:09.040 happy it makes me to play that gobble pickup transition sound. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.320 I'm so proud of myself for that one, one of 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.680 my favorite. You know how in Jeopardy they have the 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.600 contestants tell stories about themselves during the break between the 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.080 in the first in the Jeopardy round, And one time 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.680 there was a guy that was his He was a 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.200 one day champion, So they asked him a story about himself, 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.240 and the second most important story he could think to 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.560 tell about himself was that he does a great turkey impression. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.320 And by the end of it, Ken Jennings is like, 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.040 are you gonna do the turkey impression for us? And 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.680 he just breaks out this and it wasn't even good. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.440 It sounded like that, and I'm like, that's the second 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.760 most interesting thing about you. A bad turkey impression. Oh man, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.520 the way my friend and I that were watching that 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.480 show laughed for quite a while. It's kind of how 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.920 I laughed thinking about that turkey transition sound. Speaking of turkeys, 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.240 Jordan loves a turkey out there, isn't he. We have 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.760 to make his head spin. That's key number two against 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.960 this Packers offense. It's a key every week you have 0:15:58.040 --> 0:15:59.680 to mix up your coverages. But I just want to 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.880 show you love splits this year and the offensive output 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.800 in accordance with his production, which yeah, Travis, obviously the 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.320 quarterback plays well, the offense probably plays well. But he 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.360 had four giveaways in his first game back against the Vikings, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.240 a loss where they got back into it late, but 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.720 it was a blowout. Early against the Rams, he threw 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.480 for just two hundred and two yards and had a 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.440 really bad pick six where he threw blindly when he 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.560 was wrapped up in the grasp running away from the 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:27.120 defensive pass rush in the end zone, where he just 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.320 threw it blindly to op to a cornerback who walked 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.760 in for six. And that was a Rams team where 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.200 they beat him twenty four to nineteen without cup Nakua 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.960 and three starting offensive linemen. Then against a Houston team, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.960 it's not playing good football. They had three turnovers, two 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.440 picks from Love and his production has sort of seen 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.000 an uptick from that moment to recently. As you heard 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.800 wessay on Tuesday, he believes that Love is getting healthier 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.680 from that week one injury he suffered back in Brazil. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.680 But even still, Man, they have plenty They've played a 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.600 lot of close games and just tells me that if 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.560 we can bait Love into a turnover or two and 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.240 protect the ball ourselves, that could be the deciding factor 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.320 of this entire game. So how do you do that? Well, 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.320 we talked about the offensive line. I think their adept 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.359 at handling a lot of games. You know, slants and 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.760 twists and different ways to create communication breakdowns, and we 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.000 have really gotten after teams with those looks this year. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.480 It's one of the best parts of the Anthony Weaver 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.000 defense is the game package. But even going back to 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.680 the Niners tape, I saw plenty of mugged up linebackers 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:30.520 where it's you know, you basically can bring multiple players 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.360 down to the line of scrimmage to simulate who might 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.280 come and who might drop as far as the rush goes, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.320 and some immediate pressure that Love was able to at 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.560 least survive with throwaways, some scrambles and the occasional hot throw. Now, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.280 one thing I saw that really peaked my interest was 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.160 them going with a nosebacker and he was picking off 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.920 Josh Myers the center and creating these one on one 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.440 situations for their guards, which is where I want to 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.680 get to, not Elton Jenkins, but mostly the right guard 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.879 Sean Ryan to get and then I guess left tackles well, Rashid, 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.960 I think you can create that through putting someone like 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.080 Chop Robinson, for instance, who played a lot of that 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.720 nosebacker position at Penn State, right over the top of 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.919 the center, and then also can we flip him to 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.080 the Packers left side of the formation to get him 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.560 rushing a three hundred and forty pounds two heavy footed 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.959 rashid walker. So I think moving Chop was something we 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:23.119 all talked about this offseason. I'm tempted to not do 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:24.800