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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, March twenty fifth. I just almost completely

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Speaker 2: fucked up the date. Read that's how that's the that's

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Speaker 2: the atmosphere on the podcast right now. As always, we're

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Speaker 2: just to modulated. Jenkins and Jones is hosted by my

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Speaker 2: good buddies on the Internet and in real life, Dragonfly

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Speaker 2: Jones aka Tyler Everybody has a Gun with Jethro Jenkins

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Speaker 2: aka John.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, how you do?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: How you muminil immuse.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike akab And before we get into basketball and

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Speaker 2: Cinnamon Toast Crunch and Derek Jackson and the Suez Canal

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Speaker 2: and a couple of segments you're going to be really

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Speaker 2: interested in. At the end of the show, John had

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Speaker 2: a question that we need to address. We need to

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Speaker 2: address this.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I want to be able to say I'm

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Speaker 4: my age again in halves. You know, I'm I wanna

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Speaker 4: be like I'm thirty eight and a half, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like I earned that half. I should be able to

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Speaker 1: claim that, you know what I mean? Why did we

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Speaker 1: stop using that?

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Speaker 5: I have I've wondered when was the year that we

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Speaker 5: stopped using that? Because when you were nine and a half,

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Speaker 5: you were ten and a half, you were maybe eleven

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Speaker 5: and a half. That's kind of where she gets a

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Speaker 5: bit murky from you, Like I feel like maybe when

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Speaker 5: we started ventried towards teen preteen years, we set fuck

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Speaker 5: that half because we thought were grown or some shit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe when you're twelve and a half you

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Speaker 2: start saying I'm almost thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Ah, the almost that's the stipulation there. Yes, also say

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Speaker 3: it's an adult half. I think about it.

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Speaker 2: Sean, how old are you? I'm about to turn thirteen?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Right as well?

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Speaker 1: When I have that's when you like ro relax with

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Speaker 1: the half ship, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: But I feel like the scales go from super young

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Speaker 5: kid being a half to preteen team being almost and

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Speaker 5: then old heads status is damn there, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, because right like shit like.

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Speaker 3: Right, like that is the old head and half right there,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I think Damn Near is better than half hum lean back.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, damn yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Damn here tells me so much about you if I

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Speaker 5: hear it, because it's like you're halfway cursing and then

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Speaker 5: you're like not giving a fuck about accurate estimations and

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Speaker 5: ship and those are.

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Speaker 3: Like my favorite type of people.

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Speaker 5: People who don't give a fuck about specifics and people

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Speaker 5: who like cursing shit.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying and ain't tripping off the age,

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Speaker 1: either I'm damned or yeah, like fuck you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, yeah, I dig that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because when the motherfucker says I'm damn near s,

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Speaker 5: that's a yeah, motherfucker know I'm old, but I don't

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Speaker 5: right admission.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Those about favorite type of people too, So yeah, Damn

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Speaker 5: Near tells me a lot about you.

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Speaker 3: And if you say that, I'll probably fuckus.

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Speaker 4: The twenty nine forever. Dude, I don't want to be

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Speaker 3: Guy, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is my twenty ninth birthday for the sixth

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I cancel him.

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Speaker 2: When my wife and I see on Facebook the happy birthday, honey,

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Speaker 2: turn twenty nine again, that's like an automatic like we're

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Speaker 3: Bro, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You're not You're not comfortable being who you are. You're

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Speaker 2: a forty year old person who wants to pretend they're

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Speaker 2: in their twenties. I remember my mom used to laugh.

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Speaker 2: We'd be watching sports and they do like a Mabeling

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, right right right, speaking age man,

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Speaker 5: that ship is a blessing man and a serious note,

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Speaker 5: every fucking day, every year is a blessing for it.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of embracing the situation, accepting it, it's the NBA

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Speaker 2: trade deadliner approacheth.

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Speaker 3: That was so good.

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Every time I pull off a halfway decent segue, you guys,

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Speaker 2: stop traffic.

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Speaker 3: So you ain't even hit us with the real ship.

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Speaker 3: Like Mike is like, bro, I'm just pulling this.

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Speaker 5: Out my ass likes like, put me in front of

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Speaker 5: a motherfucking computer and give me an hour to come

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Speaker 2: Well, the trade deadline approacheth and one Kylieus Lowrius uh

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Speaker 2: appears to be headed out of Toronto. I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to ask you guys, like, can you fucking imagine go?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, some of the your job and

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Speaker 2: pro sports analogies are stupid, but really think about you

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Speaker 2: go to work and at lunch they're like, you might

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Speaker 2: be in Detroit tomorrow, you know, like you might have

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Speaker 2: honestly beyond me.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Lowry is the most important player that's ever played

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Speaker 4: for the Raptors, right, Yes, and they.

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Speaker 1: Finished just ship dead man off, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like this isn't just like a Raptors player, This is

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And they will send his ass off to wherever it

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Speaker 4: makes more sense to them, like that I just couldn't

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Speaker 1: And you just have to do whatever they tell.

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Speaker 5: You to do, you know what I mean, this game

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Speaker 5: I love nobody, man, but you know, Lowry is like

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Speaker 5: the perfect all time time raptor, right because I mean

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Speaker 5: I say this with no inll intent, because I know

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Speaker 5: Canadians are sensitive as hell, but you know, Canadians kind

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Speaker 5: And then you've got this guy who's the greatest player

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Speaker 5: all the ship, super fucking smart, super high IQ player

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Speaker 5: right right, he's pro folks, and he leads your team

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Speaker 5: understand how this is, you know, I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: all Toronto fans know this ship is a business, right,

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Speaker 5: and it's still hurts all the same, but but yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's it's it's an interesting conundrum. And you know that's

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Speaker 5: what we get when we come down to the whole

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Speaker 5: business aspect of this ship, Like it doesn't really matter

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Speaker 5: what you contributed to your franchise, because very few franchises

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Speaker 5: if you're cal fucking Lawry.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of dudes get that Kobe Bryant contract.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Hey man, thank you so much. You know, like you.

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Speaker 7: Ain't quite you know what you were, but you're still Kobe,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But I though, I mean, they.

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Speaker 6: Would have would have been up in Staples, the whole city,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like the sixties would have

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Speaker 2: Do think it was if you're a pro. If you're

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Speaker 2: You probably knew. I mean, all these dudes know coming

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Speaker 2: saying I'm drafted. I'm going to be on an airplane

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Speaker 2: you're kind of giving up control over your living situation.

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Speaker 2: But especially for established dudes like Lowry, like you have

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Speaker 2: you have your favorite restaurants. Like he's been living there

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Speaker 2: for a while, bro. And so that's the thing to me,

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Speaker 2: Like I can see moving teams in between seasons, but

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Speaker 2: the idea of we're more than halfway through the basketball season,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get traded tomorrow, have to go start over,

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Speaker 2: find a new place to live, like unpack, like you

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have.

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Speaker 2: To like get all your ship together. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: it just it. I if I were in that situation,

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Speaker 5: And lew we went out there and had the best

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Speaker 5: was a plus forty two, right, Like he didn't mail

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's the pro shit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been Toronto nine years and I did.

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Speaker 8: Also also didn't know that Kyle Lars been in the

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Speaker 8: league since two thousand and six.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I remember.

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Speaker 5: I remember Villanova going he was on that on that

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Speaker 5: on that four guard Villanova squad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were fun. But I I just I

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Speaker 7: But yeah, not eight or nine years in in in Toronto,

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Speaker 2: Not is there anything else, anything else? You guys are

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Speaker 2: looking for any magic you're hoping that the Lakers pull

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Speaker 2: off or whatever. I mean, I don't think we're in

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Speaker 2: the running. I don't want to be in the running

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Speaker 2: for Kyle Lowry, to be completely honest with you, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like, you might need those charges in the playoffs, man,

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Speaker 4: those stars taking those charges. We saw him taking an

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Speaker 4: All Star game. We might need the old in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I'm all in on Shrewder. I'm all in on Shrewd.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's great.

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Speaker 3: Give that man thirty eight minutes a game in the

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Speaker 3: playoffs for real.

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Speaker 4: Shooter is one of the best backup point guards to

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Speaker 4: me for a long time, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like when he was in Atlanta, he was great.

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Speaker 8: Then he went to when he's playing backup and okay,

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Speaker 2: He's earned it, shot, he's earned it.

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Speaker 1: He's earned it. He's right where he's supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: So no, I hope we don't. I mean, the Lakers

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Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, SGA is out.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people hurt and it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: On his next adventure that is a night's name.

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Speaker 2: We need a graphic of the ref doing the charge

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Steve Kerr was on Real

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Speaker 2: Ones with Logan Murdoch, our guy, Logan, great episode.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, major moves shouts the logan.

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Speaker 2: Bro got that ringer check Bro.

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean, Bros, he's been killing it. He

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Speaker 2: great conversation on real ones with Steve Kerr. I definitely

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Speaker 2: Who was it? Tyler was? Drew Shriller?

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Speaker 2: Drew Shriller took a comment from Steve Kerr completely out

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Speaker 2: Steve Kerr said I have more fun, you know, during

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Speaker 2: said he had more fun going fifteen and fifty five

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Speaker 5: That, Yeah, he didn't say you know exactly, That's what

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Speaker 2: I mean, could just as easily have said, I mean

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Speaker 3: You can make that a shot to whoever you want

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Speaker 7: Yeah, though, Katie bit and that video.

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Speaker 1: Is you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: If there's one thing Kd's gonna do.

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Speaker 5: that's Katie's bran.

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Speaker 3: He is online.

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Speaker 1: Do you everythink Katie will get the love that he

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Speaker 5: He will get it by not giving a fuck about it,

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Speaker 3: That's how shit works.

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Speaker 2: Then I love the I love Kd's quote. There's no

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Speaker 4: It's just odd to me because everybody acts like they

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Speaker 1: Everybody the court.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to talk about this Drew Shriller

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Speaker 2: And I simply I don't normally sympathize with millionaire coaches

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and Kurr is not He's not an outsider here

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Speaker 5: How that was more enjoyable than that grind that was,

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Speaker 2: But we'll see. I don't know that we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Where do you get that from? Was that just

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Speaker 5: I feel like it he just home mee put Anthony

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: He okay, that's me.

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Speaker 2: Butter said, we already got about seven thousand Anthony Allen's

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Speaker 2: you get a five? But what did what did you?

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Speaker 2: What did you guys think of that back and forth?

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Speaker 2: And uh and I don't know. And of Draymond crowning

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Speaker 5: Like Draymond, Draymond isn't where he is now. He isn't

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Speaker 5: think Draymond truly believes that absolutely, Wow, he want to

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Speaker 1: But he's so Draymond knows basketball.

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Speaker 4: He's so smart when he comes to the game, you

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Speaker 1: He has to know that, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think that he understands that that's on such a

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Speaker 5: And he thinks that you know, my IQ, me knowing

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Speaker 5: I think that's why he thinks he's the best defensive player.

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Speaker 5: I truly believe that.

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Speaker 7: But also he had to have seen the best defensive players,

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Speaker 5: I don't think Raymond is the best defensive player ever,

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Speaker 5: but I will say this, during the era that I

445
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 5: saw the best basketball being played I've ever seen in

446
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 5: my life, Draymond was the best defender of that era.

447
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Speaker 3: Okay, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I personally think, I mean, I mean, there's so many

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Speaker 5: moving pieces when we do the defensive shit, right, do

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Speaker 5: you do you prefer the bulldog? Whill lock in on

451
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 5: one guy and take that guy? You know, give that

452
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 5: guy hell the whole night? Do you prefer the the

453
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Speaker 5: you know, the help defender. The off ball defender will

454
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Speaker 5: rotate and disrupt the whole offensive flow. Do you prefer

455
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Speaker 5: the rim defender?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: There's so many moving parts with defenders, and me personally,

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Speaker 5: I think Rodman.

459
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Speaker 3: Was the best defensive player ever.

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Speaker 5: And Robin was just a straight up you know, he's

461
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 5: the bulldog who blocking on the guy as soon as

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Speaker 5: he crossed half court right, and Draymond whole shit is

463
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 5: you know, he's he's super fucking smart, super you know,

464
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 5: he knows when when to make help rotations and all that.

465
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Speaker 5: And they're just two different defenders, you know what I'm saying.

466
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Speaker 5: So I can't even say which one is better. But

467
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Speaker 5: like I said, I personally will prefer Rock Trying.

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Speaker 1: As a quarterback of the defense too though, you know

469
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Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So he's just not defending himself, he's making sure everybody

471
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 4: else is in their position as well.

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Speaker 1: So I get that.

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Speaker 2: But he also had a central role in the era

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Speaker 2: of the NBA where that changed into the way that

475
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: defenses are played. As Candice Parker was explaining to Shaquilla Hill, right,

476
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: like I mean, he was a big part of that.

477
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: His intelligence and his versatility was a big part of that.

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Speaker 2: So he's got a case to be made there. Listen,

479
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 2: we have to, for whatever reason, talk about who the

480
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Speaker 2: greatest quarterback of all time is and who the greatest

481
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: basketball player of all time is. We don't need to

482
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Speaker 2: pretend that there's any way to who the greatest fucking

483
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Speaker 2: defender in the NBA history is. Bro, Like, You're like,

484
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: how do you want to stack up Kareem abdul Jabbar,

485
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: Bill Russell against Dennis ramon Ke. It's just it doesn't

486
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: work like that. The things they're defending against have changed

487
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 2: so much, the style of defenses. We just said between

488
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Speaker 2: that's my guy, I got them all game to Okay,

489
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: I'm one part of a five part moving symphony, you know, Like,

490
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Speaker 2: there's no you can't pick one guy out and say that. Yes,

491
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Speaker 2: and he knows that too.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Yeah, I absolutely agree, because, like I said,

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Speaker 5: I've got my favorite defender every and I'm not passionate

494
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Speaker 5: about that at all.

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Speaker 3: If you don't agree, it's like, okay, well yeah.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I don't give a fuck, right, But you know,

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Speaker 5: I personally before Robin, because this is a dude who

498
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Speaker 5: would you know, motherfucker, give the point guard.

499
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Speaker 3: Hell, give shack hell. So that's my guy.

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Speaker 4: But I don't have a favorite defender because a big

501
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 4: part of life is knowing.

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Speaker 1: Not what to give a fuck about, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

504
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Speaker 5: I'm a big Robin fan though you know what I'm saying.

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00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 5: That's partly where that plays a part.

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Speaker 8: I fuck with Robin, with a lot of players that

507
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Speaker 8: play defense, but I'm not out here like I.

508
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: Don't have a ranking though I don't have a power

509
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: rack exactly.

510
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Speaker 5: If if I wasn't a big Robin guy, I don't

511
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 5: think i'd give a fuck about who I think the

512
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 5: best was the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here, listen.

514
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Speaker 2: I love watching Dennis Shrewder play defense. Here's what I

515
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: think when I when he's really getting into someone, I

516
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: was playing great defense, right yeah yeah, and then moving

517
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Speaker 2: on and.

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Speaker 7: Then when he blows by somebody for like a little

519
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Speaker 7: float or like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, do baby?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, but you know, good for Draymond,

522
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: bro Draymond is feeling himself. I mean, why not? May well?

523
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: So fucking I mean, like, dude, you guys.

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Speaker 2: Know what the Overton window is. You know, what the

525
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: Overton window is where it's like it's it's the window

526
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: of expectation. So they say like, it's the it's Tyler's,

527
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: it's standards, business negotiation or whatever. What do you want

528
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: your starting salary to be? Well, I want to make

529
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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars, I'm gonna say a hundred and fifty

530
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. You've shifted the Overton window up by saying that, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: Draymond's smart enough to just be like, I'm gonna just

532
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: say I'm the best ever, and then everyone will be like, well,

533
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Speaker 2: you's got to be top three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's making that hall puss. He's making that

535
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame puss right now, he's.

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Speaker 2: Starting to the caboose fell off the back of the

537
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Speaker 2: train a little bit, bro a little bit. Now he's like, yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Ain't got the game to kind of pick it up.

539
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Speaker 1: So it's like, let me put this mouthpiece to work.

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Speaker 2: Expect it.

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Speaker 4: You know high IQ play by Draymond there, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: we Tyler and I both love this tweet by Jared

563
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Speaker 2: Wade Jared underscore Wad on Twitter so in response to

564
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 2: NBA MVP talk here's this take from Jared. There is

565
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: no NBA MVP this season, and it's beautiful to see

566
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: y'all pointless decade long obsession becomes so obviously pointless to

567
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: everyone at one I've never been happier.

568
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: You could hear the evil villain laugh, like he was

569
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: so excited to get that shit off, you feel me.

570
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: The best feeling on Twitter is when someone takes a

571
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: sentiment that you vaguely had in your head and puts

572
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: it into words so perfectly that you can feel the

573
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: thought crystallized. You're like, yes, that's exactly how I feel. Like, Yes,

574
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Speaker 2: that's like you feel like you found it. You're like,

575
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: this was the one.

576
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, I love that, And I'm about to

577
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 5: fucking nerd the fuck out.

578
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: What was I know?

579
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: Mike, you can probably follow me here.

580
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 5: There was an an author who wrote about going back

581
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 5: to their childhood home and it wasn't there anymore, and

582
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 5: they wrote like there is no there there was, Yeah,

583
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 5: you know I'm talking about I don't know who the

584
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 5: fuck said that, but like that's the past is past.

585
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: Pauma said that shit.

586
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 5: About the South because the South is fucking motherfucking eighteen

587
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 5: fifty three or whatever, Yeah, there was.

588
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: I think it was.

589
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 5: I don't know, I think it was. It was a

590
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 5: female author maybe like Kurtie Styner and some ship. But

591
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 5: she said there is no there there when she went

592
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 5: back to her home time. And I feel like this

593
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: was the fucking NBA basketball There is no there there

594
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 5: and ship.

595
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: Right, like you're there there, yeah right, Like.

596
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: The MVP does not exist this season.

597
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 5: But you know, I do think that the the MVP

598
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: discussion that's got quote unquote toxic. Right, you gotta ship

599
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 5: on guys to build your guy up, and that ship

600
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: was never really what we did coming up.

601
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

602
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: That's NBA conversations as a whole.

603
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: Now though that's true too, you know what I.

604
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: Mean, Like we we respected. I mean, I don't want to.

605
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: I'm really about to be an uncle ass motherfucker right

606
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: now for to be got a goddamn all, motherfucker, motherfucker.

607
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: Goddamn almost fort was about.

608
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: To kick the door of the minivan open in there

609
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: and his way out right.

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00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 8: No, But like yeah, I feel like we knew that

611
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 8: we respected all the guys, you know what I mean,

612
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 8: Like nobody was like this motherfucking trash he didn't know,

613
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 8: Like you see people like talking shit about Gianni's to

614
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 8: you know, or talking about Harden to lift up Jannest

615
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 8: and like that's every conversation. Now you can't have a

616
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 8: conversation with basketball without shitting on somebody else.

617
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: Well, the new reply guy ship on Twitter, if you

618
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: look at anything that Braun or KD or any of

619
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: these dudes posts, is like everything is win a real ring.

620
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: Steph carried you step like you watch it's not but

621
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: it's just like, no one believes that it's just the Like.

622
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: No, I think, No, I think the people. I think

623
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people that say it believe that shit.

624
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: I think.

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00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 5: I feel like when you see a reply guy who's like,

626
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: you know, Steph's the goat O three eight seven two,

627
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: you know they're bullshit And when they say that, they

628
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 5: don't truly believe that. They're just trying to They're just

629
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 5: trying to be fucking controversial in trouble.

630
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: They're trolling the concept of trolling, you know what I mean.

631
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: They're like, I'm so sarcastic that I'm being genuine.

632
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

633
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 4: I see him in there eating pizza every fucking day,

634
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm saying sweating fucking saliva and just talking.

635
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Wild shit on Twitter.

636
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 6: I think these people actually exist others, That's what I've

637
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 6: seen others.

638
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: Well. The worst thing that happened, and I will never

639
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: forgive KD for this, The worst thing that happened is

640
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: these fucking dudes found out that these NBA guys read

641
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: their mentions, yeah, and take the ship personally, you know.

642
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: And I think someone just said this about jay Z,

643
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: Like the reason he's not on social media is because

644
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: he's the most sensitive motherfucker on planet Earth.

645
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: And good for him. That's hide self awareness right there.

646
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like everyone now that everyone knows, I could

647
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: say some shit to KD and he might not respond

648
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: to me, but he actually is reading it.

649
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: Ye.

650
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: I feel like they're getting off on that to an extent,

651
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: and so it's kind of contributed to that toxicity that

652
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: John was just talking about. Because yet, like when we

653
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: were kids, no one said I like this guy. So

654
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: Sean Kemp's a bum.

655
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: Right, Nobody said Weather was trash or right.

656
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 8: You know, Dennis Robins guardage, you know, I'm a shot guy.

657
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's none of that. It was none of that,

658
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: you know.

659
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: Rodman doesn't stretch the floor.

660
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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, this is all a whole new social media phenomenon.

661
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Speaker 5: But you're right, there's and then I feel like there's

662
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: no turning back from this ship.

663
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: This is how it's going to be from here moving forward.

664
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: We did clown David Robinson when Alajue gave him, I

665
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: couldn't do nothing.

666
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: I forget what The interview was hilarious. We should play

667
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: that ship. That ship was crazy.

668
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: I remember laughing at them and those those like NBA

669
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: documentary films with like the best matchups, and it showed

670
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: his like, yeah, we clown him for that, but we didn't.

671
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: We didn't say that d rob wasn't a solid player.

672
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: He just got cooked one night.

673
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: A lot of more. I think the worst thing I

674
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: said about like all time greats as a younger basketball

675
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: fan was we just used to clown Duncan for being

676
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: so boring, like Lakers fans used to just be like

677
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: we used to just make fun of all the time,

678
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: like you're getting on a little job, but you're making

679
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: a Tim Duncan face, like you know what I mean. Like,

680
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: but but no one was ever like he sucks you.

681
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: Never ever, we was all scared of him. Right came

682
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: to town. We knew he's gonna get you that twenty

683
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: ten You feel me?

684
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, but I did enjoy that

685
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: commentary because he's exactly right. Tyler is exactly right. There

686
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: is no there there. I know we're gonna award the

687
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: m VP. I know it's something that we're going to

688
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: talk about on this show, and that's going to be

689
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: a subject of interest to people. But it's exactly what

690
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: you just said. Like I saw someone trying to lift

691
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: up Jokic by talking shit on Go Bear, and then

692
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: I saw someone trying to lift up Go Bear by

693
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: talking shit on Jokic, Just like, is it really.

694
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: That would take?

695
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I would.

696
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 7: Get one angle doesn't make it.

697
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: Was like, go Bear is the most important and best

698
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: player on the best team in basketball, and this is

699
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: how he's valuable in ways that Jokic. So yeah, I.

700
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 5: Don't give him full You can go bad that MVP.

701
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: I am going to I want to write a strongly

702
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 5: worded letter to at himself.

703
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: I was in that big snail mail, dude, the US Service.

704
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: If you give go bet that motherfucker fuck that.

705
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: Oh man. All right, moving on from basketball, John, you've

706
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: been our you've been our guy on the Derek Jackson beat.

707
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: Break it, Okay, I have not paid any attention to

708
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: this ship. Bro can you explain this to me in

709
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: thirty seconds or less.

710
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I'll keep it a stack. I didn't know who the

711
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: fuck this man was prior to this shit. I never

712
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: heard of this duel. But he got millions of a

713
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: million followers whatever.

714
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 9: But he's like a social media relationship guru, right, and

715
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 9: he just came out saying that, you know, the guru

716
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 9: that everybody's getting advice from for relationships was out here

717
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 9: dragging dick off through the internet.

718
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

719
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: The entire time he did an apology video. That's the

720
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: one thing. I see what I'm saying.

721
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: He covers other videos, right, Like one thing is to

722
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: do is to like watch a video then he'll give

723
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: us reaction.

724
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 7: And he covered his own apology video, broth.

725
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: That is some and and and then had his own

726
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: back at it like well this I talked about himself

727
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: and the third person, and this guy at least, you know,

728
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: made no ex juices about his actions.

729
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: And then you see his sister, you.

730
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: Know, his his wife, you know, she was catching hell.

731
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: She was talking about her bonnet was, you know, like protecting.

732
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: Her like the helmet of God hersh like it was.

733
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 7: It's it's very internety. It's the thing of this month,

734
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? Like every month, Like you

735
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Every month is a thing. It's

736
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 7: the thing of this month. But where do these people

737
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 7: come from? It's so weird that you have so many followers.

738
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 7: And I can never r this man ever.

739
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 4: You said making money money bro, Bro, and that UNITU

740
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 4: and Flowers Go ahead, Bro.

741
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 5: That YouTube influencer world is the world I know nothing about.

742
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 5: And there are so many multimillionaires over there, and I

743
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 5: do not know.

744
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: Who the fuck anyone is.

745
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 5: Like I just know Logan Paul because I hate how

746
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: much money he's making off YouTube. I guess the only

747
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 5: reason I know where that motherfucker is.

748
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: Like that YouTube celebrity world is a whole different world.

749
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 10: Bro.

750
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: We are about YouTube influencers the way the toxic basketball

751
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: people are about basketball, bro, like all trash Logan Paul.

752
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: There are a couple of cool gamers that are making

753
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: money off you.

754
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 5: Oh man, here comes mister twitch guy.

755
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: No, No, this dude, swag black dude.

756
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: You know he just bought like a half a million

757
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: dollar card from just right Nick, I'm telling you, man,

758
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: he brought this half of million dollar whip Mercedes, Like

759
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: AMG Burt. I can't even pronounce the fucking shit because

760
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 4: I'm not rich enough to know what the fuck.

761
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: We're all ten years too old. Because what happened is

762
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: we we graduated college at a time when there were

763
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 2: social media platforms that were like, hey, we were talking

764
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 2: about this with Zach, we're talking about this with Zach Fox.

765
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: We graduated a time when it was like, come be

766
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: funny on my platform for free, and you were happy

767
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: and you are still because it was creative and it

768
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: was fun and it was funny. But for everyone who's

769
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: five years younger than us down forever, it's hey, if

770
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: you're moderately funny and you're twenty three years old, get

771
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: on twitch, get on YouTube, get on a podcast, and

772
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: monetize being entertaining bro like right the fuck away, and

773
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: it's with a capital M in monetizing.

774
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: What's really wild is like how crazy we truly were

775
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: back then, because now.

776
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 8: You got to kind of clean it up a little bit, right,

777
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 8: We were some wild boys back in the day.

778
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: Could you imagine how crazy we we had Twitch in

779
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 4: the nineties, You know what I mean, Oh my god,

780
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: I mean, we'd be rich, but we.

781
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Explained as the dude tar to our kids.

782
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I wouldn't be doing fucking

783
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: FanDuel reads right now, I'll tell you that, bro, right

784
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: right right?

785
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, college conversations on Twitch, you know what I mean.

786
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: We were up to two am.

787
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 7: Having the funniest conversations ever re nights and night.

788
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: Every member of my college newspaper almost got kicked out

789
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: of Long Beach State like four times. Bro.

790
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: We got the best people.

791
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: We got sued twice while we were If we had

792
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: smartphones at that time, yeah.

793
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 4: You'd be Broun's neighbor right now, Bro, you know what

794
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: I mean.

795
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: If we had Twitch Dog, I'd be like, what up?

796
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 5: What up?

797
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: Lebron right, what up? Help?

798
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

799
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: We have a whole nickname.

800
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: Better be the homie dog, Like, come on, man.

801
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 2: The other way to get rich is to do what

802
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: uh may or may not have been done. Maybe just

803
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: get some shrimp tails and a box of cereal and

804
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: fucking go to town.

805
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: Uh you know.

806
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: So, Tyler and I I think John has started to

807
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: separate himself from Twitter a little bit for him in

808
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: a way, it was really emotionally healthy. Tyler and I

809
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: have been locked the fucking cinnamon toast crunch shrimp ship.

810
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: Bro through every twist.

811
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 7: In turn explained it all the way to me, I

812
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 7: just know a topango's husband.

813
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: We didn't know.

814
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: All that, and we didn't know that until later. Yeah,

815
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: first was this dude, what's his name, Tyler is Jackson car.

816
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 5: Car something carved Jackson the car for some ship.

817
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: He tweeted a picture of of an open box of

818
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: cinnamon toast crunch with some shrimp tails that had come

819
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: out of it, alongside some cereals.

820
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 5: And I will say this, people are questioning the validity

821
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: of this, but that looked like some factory encrusted cinnamon

822
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 5: fucking frosting all those motherfucking shrimptails. I'll get you know, Like,

823
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 5: if this is a scam, whatever, He definitely did his

824
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 5: fucking homework and he put in work on that ship.

825
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 8: He went to Michaels and had to buy like shit

826
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 8: to create it, to make it.

827
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: Like that's probably.

828
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 3: That's a that's a one million dollar NFT. It's a lot.

829
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: Non fungible tool.

830
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for shrimp tails, but cinnamon toast crunch, who I

831
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: guess understandably didn't have their social media person do the

832
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: thirty day crisis management seminar. Because it's cinnamon toast crunch.

833
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: It wasn't handled the way you would have handled it.

834
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: They hit him up and they're like, take it to

835
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: the cops.

836
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, they're both stopped out. They're like, no, that's

837
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 5: not a shrimptail. That's just like a fucking you know,

838
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 5: clupping of cinnamon seasoning.

839
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw that shit, Like, what the fuck? No,

840
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: that's a shrimp.

841
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 5: Sails someone who eats a lot of motherfucker shrimp. That's

842
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 5: a motherfucking shrimptail.

843
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: I started gagging when I first read the thing. Bro

844
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: like imagining because they're basically telling him you could eat it.

845
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 2: You could eat that, you know.

846
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 5: Right, I go go ahead and chomp down, dog, you know, yeah,

847
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 5: go ahead and chomp down on that salmonella fucking.

848
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: On that food poisoning chuck.

849
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 7: You got there, buddy, salmonella, you know what I mean.

850
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: So from this from this point on, John everyone goes, Okay,

851
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: his last name is carp that's crazy, you know, his

852
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: fish shrimp whatever, and then people realize that he's married

853
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: to Topanga from Boy Meets World, which was really crazy,

854
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 2: and then everyone realizes that it's hot Carl the rapper.

855
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then yeah, what.

856
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: Then Tamanga mary hoot Carl is?

857
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: Is she like a fucking like astro physicist or some

858
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: ship like I don't know anyway, go ahead.

859
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: But anyway, then, as happens with Twitter, anytime anyone gets

860
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: popular overnight, it turns out he's a terrible person.

861
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: This is the most Twitter ass story ever, Right, a

862
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: fucking guy who's who's mildly famous, got a blue check

863
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 5: and you know, he comes into this fucking ridiculous circumstance

864
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 5: with a corporation who fires back some terrible tweets at him.

865
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: Do we find out he's the pinkst husband?

866
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 5: And then we find out he's a piece of ship

867
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: on top of that? Right?

868
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: Like that is that it's every checklist on the Twitter

869
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: ass Twitter story a fuck?

870
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, but the milkshake duck thing was was, you know,

871
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 5: people's his exs saying he was an e mostly abusive guy.

872
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: So which is also the which is also the other

873
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: thing that has to happen on Twitter because it's like

874
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: fucking of course he was. You know what I mean,

875
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: He's a he's a male human being, so like, of

876
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: course he's a piece of shit. But Tyler's Tyler's tweet

877
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: was perfect. Wow, Topanga's husband who found the shrip in

878
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: his cereal is getting milkshaked. Duck. Nothing makes you feel

879
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: like more of a dweeb than having moments like this

880
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: when you realize how deep you are in this Twitter shit.

881
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say I just tied a bow on

882
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: it because I just read the tweet about how deep

883
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: we are on the Twitter shit on our podcast.

884
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: So we took this to the whole podcast. Yeah, that

885
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 5: is We're some dorks man. I genuinely was so discussing

886
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 5: with myself for understanding everything in that sensus that I tweeted,

887
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 5: so disgusted.

888
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: So here's one that we could feel better. This will

889
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: make you feel better about yourself, regardless of what you

890
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: do for a living, is you did not have nearly

891
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: as bad a day as the helmsman for the Evergreen

892
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: container ship that wedged itself sideways across the Suez Canal,

893
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: which daily has a third of the world's shipped goods

894
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: globally passing through it, causing a backup of quite some time.

895
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: It looks like they've been able to pull it mostly

896
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: out of the way to allow one way traffic, but

897
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: there's literally miles of backed up container ships. We have

898
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: one of the country's biggest ports in Long Beach, so

899
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: I see these ships off our coast all the time.

900
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: They are fucking huge. This dude accidentally parked a ship

901
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: that is as big as the Empire State building damn,

902
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: sideways across a canal through which a third of the

903
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 2: world's goods pass as part as the global supply chain.

904
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: Bro, Like, anybody know how he did it?

905
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: Like?

906
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: How did how was this done?

907
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: I believe that it was a combination of like a

908
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: strong wind slight inattention, and one of the tugboats, because

909
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: they use tugboats to pull these ships through having some

910
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: sort of a malfunction. But if you see the picture,

911
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: you can see how big the ships are. And I mean,

912
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: who's getting fired? Is it him?

913
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: The tugboat driver? Like somebody fired.

914
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: Fired, might be fired? Might be generous, bro. So I

915
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: mean it's you're talking about and all that shit's insured

916
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: with delivery times and stuff. I mean, that's it's probably

917
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: a billion dollar fuck up at a minimums.

918
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: That's just so wid to me that there's one or

919
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 5: you know, two or three dudes out there and like

920
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 5: their whole department, those they fucked up everything on a

921
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 5: worldwide scale. Dudes or that dude feel right about now? Bro,

922
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 5: That's all I've been thinking about during this time.

923
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: You see the picture of the guy like this video,

924
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: he's like I try and describe the face. It's the

925
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: white guy smile face, but without the smile, it's the most.

926
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 5: Like it's the lipsuck with no smart und Oh my god,

927
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 5: but it's so awkward.

928
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: If I literally finished, we finished recording, I go out

929
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: and I look at my wife and I say Suez Canal.

930
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: She will start cringing so hard she'll get a cramp. Bro.

931
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 4: Do you not think do you don't think it's crazy

932
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: that three people have the power?

933
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: Like, is that an issue with.

934
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: The system where three people fucking up can make a

935
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: billion dollar mistake?

936
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: I think it's a perfect storm.

937
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 5: I think it's like like there was so much that

938
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 5: had to go wrong here, you know, like like Mike

939
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: missing the tug boats. You know, this is the biggest fucking,

940
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: you know, little fucking ocean liner fucking Empire State Building

941
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: the size, and someone in the control them had them

942
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 5: and slackened like it was so much shit that had

943
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: to go wrong here for this happened, and this is

944
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 5: like the first time I think it's ever happened.

945
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: So hold on, I'm sure we don't have this, but o,

946
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: hold on, that's not a legit picture they.

947
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: Made that picture that was That was a meme that

948
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: was doctored that up with a little bit of photoshop.

949
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find he did. He did give an interview,

950
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: and it was just it's horrific, man. I literally, like

951
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: I feel so horrible. I just I can't imagine. I've

952
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: had bad days at work. You We've all had bad

953
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: days at work. But I mean, they said they might

954
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: not be able to completely move it out of the

955
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: way till Monday.

956
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: God damn, because.

957
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: How do you move the Empire State Building? You know what,

958
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: if you look at the picture, they're trying to dig

959
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: it out with just like a little earth mover, like

960
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: a little excavator. That is not meant like there isn't

961
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: equipment to move these things. It doesn't exist, like they're

962
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: the biggest things on earth. Like anyway, good luck to

963
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: has Canal guy, bro, I mean wish you the best

964
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: of luck. You know, subscribe, make sure you give us

965
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: five starcks. Catch up on some back episodes of Jenkins

966
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: and Jones.

967
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 5: We're here for.

968
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: You, man, right, not really, but we are.

969
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: All right. I'm gonna say the name of the next

970
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: segment and then I'm just gonna hand it to John.

971
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: But this is cock talk with the jet thro take

972
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: it away, John.

973
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Ah. Okay. Look, there was a meme right all right

974
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: where the person.

975
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 11: Said fuck fake moaning if that dig bad, pull that

976
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 11: dig a close and start booing in his ear right,

977
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 11: and so I reset it on my ig you feel me?

978
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 8: And I was like, if I'm dropping off some weak

979
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 8: ass cock and a woman does that to me, I'm

980
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 8: going to burst out laughing, like she pulls me in.

981
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: Is like like, I'm gonna yo, we gotta be friends

982
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: after you feel me? Found love? But I found the

983
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: best You feel me? And everybody was on my head

984
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: because I said dropping off some cock.

985
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 7: I said kaka ruski on here a number of times,

986
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I didn't know this word

987
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 7: was so it was like I didn't know Instagram was such.

988
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: An anti cock place.

989
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: Is that word just instagra. Bro, it's a planet earth like.

990
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: You sound like a perverse. You sound like a pervert

991
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: saying that word.

992
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: I like to see you. And it's not like CU

993
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: and T is it.

994
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 3: It's not like that B Yeah.

995
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: It's like bro.

996
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: Like I like when I thought about it, everybody, it's

997
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: it's an aggressive word and you only hear it in boor.

998
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: That's what everyone was saying, was like, does this dude

999
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: think he's a fucking porn me and.

1000
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: Tyler talking about this. I don't even watch porn dog.

1001
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: I really just said the word, and I said really.

1002
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 7: Casually, which probably made it more disgusting to people.

1003
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1004
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 5: That's that's That's exactly what it was, because when people

1005
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 5: here kaka Uski, they know you're joking.

1006
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: People heard you say.

1007
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: And that was like an intervention moment, like is this

1008
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: guy really out of here, really saying cock in genuine conversation?

1009
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: C A W K No.

1010
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 8: But I was just like, oh, I mean it was

1011
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 8: the story was funny to me, like I'm dropping off

1012
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 8: some weak ass cop and you know what I mean,

1013
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 8: Like I just didn't know it's such a big deal.

1014
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 8: But I was getting flamed for like twenty four hours

1015
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 8: and then people are really funny that follow me. They

1016
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 8: was really clowning, and somebody called me a you said,

1017
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 8: what type of porn star pirates I've never even thought

1018
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 8: about a porn star pirate and por pirate poring.

1019
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: Sounds like it stinks by the way too, like you

1020
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1021
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 8: But but yeah, they was climbing the shit.

1022
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Out of me for that. I didn't know that word

1023
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: was such so weird.

1024
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was.

1025
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was fun.

1026
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: But whatever.

1027
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 5: I think everyone is down to clown it and very

1028
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 5: few people are down to like say it seriously.

1029
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: And I think they didn't know if you were saying

1030
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 3: seriously or not.

1031
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I just said it. I'm not. I don't.

1032
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't, I'm not. I'm not talking about dropping dick

1033
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: off seriously online anyway. You feel me like maybe I am,

1034
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: but you know, like not in this situation anyway.

1035
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: That was just lesson learned.

1036
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 5: Please let it be known when you if you're saying

1037
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 5: cock earnestly over jokingly.

1038
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: I've yelled, I'm saying I said COCARONI I've actually sang

1039
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: to my friend cocka ruu I was like, cokao, you know,

1040
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 4: I mean like I've said that in so many different ways,

1041
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 4: and nobody's ever fond it in that way.

1042
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 2: You feel me, But I know now that was cock

1043
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: chocolate with Jethro.

1044
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for that enlightening.

1045
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: Yes, And now it's time for my favorite segment on

1046
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones, the let me Goddamn History Hour with

1047
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: Dragonfly Jones.

1048
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: But I goddamn motherfucker we goddamn all right, So yeah,

1049
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: you know I figured I would. I was strength shit

1050
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 5: together a bit this week, Like you know, the other

1051
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 5: week I talked about Genghis Khan and you know, then

1052
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 5: Mike followed up with, like, you know, extinction level events shit,

1053
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 5: And if you listen to my Genghis Khan bit, I

1054
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 5: mentioned how some historians think that you know, do all

1055
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: the mass murder that he created, all the deforestation that

1056
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 5: he created, that he helped drive the black plague because

1057
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 5: you know, rats didn't have humans to live off of it.

1058
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 5: They didn't have a force living, so they migrated eastwards

1059
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 5: to the you know, the Europe and helped kick that off.

1060
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 5: Three who don't know that the Bubona plague will start

1061
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 5: by fleas that live on rats.

1062
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: So Rat's where the transport is of that play.

1063
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: And with that said, let me, god, damn, let me God.

1064
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 10: Now we are going to talk some some dark, existential,

1065
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 10: fucking end of humanity shit, as we always seem to

1066
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 10: do on these motherfucking panels, you know what I'm saying.

1067
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 5: So so yeah, I you know, like I said, some

1068
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: historians theorize that kingis Khan heaps start that with all

1069
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 5: the destruction and the death that he created, that jove

1070
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 5: the rass eastward.

1071
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: And there's another theory that.

1072
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 5: Pope Gregory the Ninth, which let's stop there for a second,

1073
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 5: because how the fuck are they nine Gregory's already as

1074
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 5: popes in thirteen fucking forty.

1075
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: How many fucking.

1076
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: Popes are there?

1077
00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 5: What we were on our ninth Gregory in thirteen forty?

1078
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: God damn.

1079
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, so you know, and there's other histories who

1080
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 5: who theirize that that Pope Gregory the Knight helped, you know,

1081
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 5: the spread of the Buboni play because he issued an

1082
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 5: edict that called for the you know, the ass murdering

1083
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 5: of cats of house cats, because you know, he thought

1084
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: that they were like six you know, satanic and shit.

1085
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 5: So yeah, so you got all these rats, migrated, gets worked,

1086
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 5: and then he eats work. In Europe, you have the pope,

1087
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 5: you know, man Daddy that cats be murdered. So that

1088
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 5: was like a perfect storm.

1089
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: You imagine you're a good Catholic and you're sitting at

1090
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: home with you. I know that their pets were functional things.

1091
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: They weren't like beloved the way the pets are now.

1092
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 2: But you imagine you're looking at your I'm imagine looking

1093
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: at my twenty five pound cat, Pablo, like I'm a

1094
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: good Catholic, and hope is the voice of God.

1095
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: You gotta go.

1096
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Speaker 5: You kill like right, you kill like eight mice that

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Speaker 5: have been in our grain barrel. But you got to know,

1098
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 5: now that's what God said, It's time for you to

1099
00:52:59,520 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 5: get murder.

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Speaker 7: They were shared of everything back then. Bro, could you

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00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 7: imagine bringing them now? They would die just at the

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00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 7: sight of what happens, you know what I mean?

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00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: Like so weird?

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Speaker 5: So yes, so that they're her stories who thereized that

1105
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 5: you know Genghis Khans, you know campaign that that led

1106
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 5: to you know, mass murder and deforestation that helped drive

1107
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 5: the rest eastward. And then it was a perfect storm

1108
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 5: because Pope Gregory the ninth said, yo, you we got

1109
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 5: to kill all these cats, and that's why they're saying

1110
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 5: the bubonic plague might have thrived. So with that said,

1111
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 5: it's there's a lesson to be learned here.

1112
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: And time for the lem me goddamn lessons.

1113
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: It's time for the lemmy, god.

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00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 4: Damn, let me goddamn levels Like one, two three, there's

1115
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 4: this is sectioned off.

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00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: You know, part one, let me god damn.

1117
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: Now we don't god damn. Part the end of goddamn,

1118
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: let me go damn.

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00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 5: But yeah, so you know, quick snapshot of the bubonic

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Speaker 5: like they has to make that a kill. From thirty

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00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 5: to sixty percent of Europe, right, like two hundred million

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00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 5: people or so died.

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Speaker 3: So like if you were in Europe in the thirteen.

1124
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 5: Forties, either you were going to die or a lot

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00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: of people closer you were going to die.

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Speaker 3: Right, And.

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Speaker 5: Do you know how they defeated the Black plague because

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00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 5: it lasted for seven years, which is which is yeah,

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00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 5: that's a lifetime in the fucking right century, right.

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Speaker 1: That's that's like a fourth of everybody's life. You know,

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00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: your twenty eight year of fuck. You know you got

1132
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: a cane.

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Speaker 5: Back then, you know, what I mean, lesson for seven years,

1134
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 5: killed two hundred million people. But do you know how

1135
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 5: they defeated it, Oh, quarantining. They defeated the Black Plague

1136
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 5: by quarantining. And you know, of course fourteenth century people

1137
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 5: didn't understand the dynamics of microbiology and infectious you know,

1138
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: viruses and infectious bacterias.

1139
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: Such, they thought it was like a curse, right.

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00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly, they thought it was a curse. And we'll

1141
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 5: get back to that. Insimmation put a pin in that.

1142
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 5: But they defeated it because they knew that, you know,

1143
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 5: they didn't understand how of course microbiology York, but they

1144
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 5: knew that being close to people who had it met

1145
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: you would get it sooner or later, right, And so

1146
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 5: they defeated it by quarantining. And the first major like

1147
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 5: metropolitan area to institute quarantining was Venice. You know, it's

1148
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 5: a port city, river city, and you know they depend

1149
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: so much on cargo and shit coming in. But they

1150
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 5: had a policy where they would not let sailors and

1151
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 5: ships you know, on board for forty days. And that's

1152
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 5: where the word quarantine actually comes from. You if you

1153
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 5: get it's some etymology shit like you know, if you

1154
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 5: know Italian is rooted in Latin, you.

1155
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 3: Know, quad is four teen is ten four and ten.

1156
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 5: They had them stay on the ships for forty days

1157
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 5: before they allowed them, you know, to to on board

1158
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 5: and bring their cargo whatever the fuck. So lesson learned here.

1159
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Speaker 5: You know, I've always said that even before this this

1160
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 5: coronavirus shit, my whole theory was like, humanity is going

1161
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 5: to be taken out by like a fucking pandemic, by

1162
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 5: like a virus or a fucking contagious bacteria that just

1163
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 5: wipes all us out. And I think before coronavirus, I

1164
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 5: was probably like plus five hundred with with vegas.

1165
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: But after we've seen how we handle this.

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00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 5: Coronavirus shit, I probably like minus one thirty on the

1167
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 5: on the odds with that, you know what I'm saying,

1168
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 5: I think that's really what's gonna take us out. But

1169
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 5: I think there's something to be learned here about how

1170
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 5: global conflict, climate change, you know, instant you know, helped

1171
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 5: spurn a fucking pandemic, and quarantining helped fucking corral that pandemic.

1172
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 5: Are humans gonna learn from this? Absolutely not. We are

1173
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 5: dumb as fuck. We will not learn from this, but

1174
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 5: I just thought that that was an interesting parallel because,

1175
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 5: you know, the greatest plague that we've ever seen in

1176
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 5: the history of humanity has so many you know, and

1177
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 5: the backgrounds of shit that's going on today, and then

1178
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 5: the way we defeated it was something that we could

1179
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 5: have defeated coronavirus today.

1180
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: So they were happy let me god damn.

1181
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: That's crazy as fuck. Yeah, Clup, clup, cloud cloud car.

1182
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: I want to say this too. We love Jenkins and

1183
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: Jones listeners. We love you. It's so great. We put

1184
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 2: an episode up with the fucking let me God Damn

1185
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: History Hour or the blow your mind shit, and we

1186
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: wake up the next day and it's just like thirty

1187
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: people who just like want to talk to us about

1188
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: like extinction level events. Someone tweeted like shout out to

1189
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: whoever was tweeting at us about zoroastrianism, bro, Like you

1190
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I just I love that. I

1191
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: know we like talking basketball and everything else too, but

1192
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: I love that we talk about weird shit that interests us.

1193
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: At the end of the podcast and the people are like, yes, right, oh,

1194
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: and I forgot Mike.

1195
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: The ship you were talking about, like, you know, the

1196
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 5: whole religious aspect of it. There's also historians who they

1197
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 5: arise that the custom of saying bless you after someone

1198
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 5: sneezes originated from the Black Play because excessive sneeze was

1199
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 5: a symptom and so like that was like them saying, Yo,

1200
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 5: you're about to die.

1201
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 3: Did God have mercy on your soul?

1202
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 5: In that sense? You know what I'm saying. So that's

1203
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 5: where a lot of the historians they arise blessed you

1204
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 5: came from. And also the you know, the ring around

1205
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 5: the posyman nursery rhyme that we all know that is

1206
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 5: alluding to the Black Play too, because one of these

1207
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 5: sentence was you'd have like black welts with rains around

1208
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 5: them and ashes ashes we all fall down as well.

1209
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 5: Human world gonna die. A lot of nursing rhymes and

1210
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 5: fucking fairy tales are fucking crucis darkest, darkest fuck Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, someday we can get We'll do a segment on

1212
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Grim's fairy Tales, on the original like the original fairy

1213
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: tales behind all these kids stories that you hear like

1214
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: how at the end of Cinderella, like the stepsisters were

1215
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: getting their eyeballs plucked out by Crows and Shit and

1216
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: original stories. Your original stories were crazy as fuck. All right,

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Speaker 2: that's been another episode of Jenkins and Jones. Thank you

1218
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Speaker 2: so much for tuning in. As always, rate reviews, subscribe us.

1219
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Speaker 2: Also check out Catching Fades with a Key to Leave.

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Speaker 2: He had John Fox on this week. It was really

1221
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: good interview. Next week he's got an awesome interview with

1222
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: his wife and daughter, so be sure to check that

1223
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Speaker 2: show out as well. And we will talk to all

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Speaker 2: you guys on Monday. Bye yeah, bye bye