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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Wormley,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by Mike Mayor. We are your weekly

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Speaker 1: fantasy baseball podcast here at Fantasy Pros.

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Speaker 2: Some quick housekeeping.

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Speaker 1: I will be gone the next two weeks after this episode,

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Speaker 1: and then Mayor will be gone for a couple of

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Speaker 1: guest month, and we're gonna have some different hosts. Guys

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Speaker 2: So hope you guys enjoy that. We'll be back the

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Speaker 1: On the other side, we'll get back to July, but

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Speaker 1: got a couple of vacations, another of that sort of

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to learn to talk to some

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Speaker 1: other people here about fantasy baseball. That'll be starting next week.

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Speaker 1: It'll be Mayor and insert x guest here for a

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Speaker 2: Mayor, it is.

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Speaker 1: We were talking before the show. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: a holiday weekend last weekend. We're taping early due to

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Speaker 1: some scheduling stuff with me doing some other shows at

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Speaker 1: our normal time of Thursday, so we are taping this Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty ninth, for everyone in case there's breaking news

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Speaker 1: between now and when this gets posted. So it kind

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Speaker 1: of has that like end of summer or end of

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Speaker 1: with us both going on vacations next month.

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Speaker 2: So we will hopefully get through a quality episode here.

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Speaker 1: But if the senioritist starts kind of bleeding into the episode,

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Speaker 1: we'll apologize in advance.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling, I'm good. As I told you

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Speaker 3: right before the show, I hate recording on Wednesdays. This

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Speaker 3: is just the worst, and you're entirely to blame.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I'm entirely to blame.

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Speaker 1: I would say the scheduling gods who put me on

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other shows on Thursday and Friday this

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Speaker 1: week are the ones really to blame. I am simply

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Speaker 1: a tool at their disposal of the of the price.

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Speaker 3: I would agree you are a tool.

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Speaker 1: I've always said that, let's dive in here around in

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Speaker 1: the bases. The upside of taping early this week is

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Speaker 1: that it's still early enough that it's not totally unreasonable

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Speaker 1: for us to react to Ronald o'cunya. And this is

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Speaker 1: the type of example we talked about before the year,

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Speaker 1: when we were trying to plan out the show and

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Speaker 1: a piece of news does something have to be for

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Speaker 1: us to talk about it a few days later, when

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Speaker 1: we're sort of a macro level, thirty thousand foot uke

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Speaker 1: able to hit on every single day, what has just

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Speaker 1: happened the night before? And I think we both kind

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Speaker 1: of agreed pretty quickly. Ronald o'cuna being out for the season,

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Speaker 1: the consensus number one player in fantasy, the guy coming

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Speaker 1: off a historic year, the guy who was setting records

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Speaker 2: So thankfully we're not waiting too long to get to that.

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Speaker 1: And obviously, if you're listening to this show, you've probably

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Speaker 1: heard other folks talk about Acuna. So we're, you know,

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Speaker 1: to talk about the lineups we've seen from the Braves

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Speaker 1: in a couple of days since he went down. But

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Speaker 1: when you first saw this, I mean, what was the

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Speaker 2: Was it, how do I replace this guy?

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Speaker 2: Where's he going to be ranked next year?

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Speaker 1: Was it? What does this mean for the Braves lineup?

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Speaker 3: Well, the very first thing that I thought of was

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Speaker 1: The first thing I saw was the highlight before I

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Speaker 1: So let's start with the long term view and then

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Speaker 1: we will hit on some you know, replacements and more

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Speaker 2: But I agree with you that the long term is

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Speaker 1: Where my mind went to if if he is healthy

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Speaker 1: he was still a value, you know, a guy that

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Speaker 1: But the ceiling is just you're never going to find

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Speaker 3: Now I think the ceiling is so high that you're

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Speaker 3: still going to see him go in the first round.

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Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna see I mean, it's a

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Speaker 3: high stakes leaves, I think you're gonna see him go

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Speaker 3: interesting thing is we now have seven seasons of a Kunya,

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Speaker 3: and we've only really gotten two full seasons. But both

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Speaker 3: of those full seasons, one he went forty one thirty

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Speaker 3: seven and the other one he went forty one seventy three.

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Speaker 3: And so no one else has that ceiling that we've seen.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't exist. And so that's that's where it's

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Speaker 3: gonna get really interesting to kind of value him going forward.

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Speaker 1: What if he's not starting the season on time. What

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Speaker 1: but he's going to be back in the back half

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Speaker 1: of April. Do you think he's still going I don't

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're really good other options, like like.

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Speaker 1: shield your eyes bad as somebody who watches a lot

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Speaker 1: of Orioles games. Though he is squaring the ball up

436
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Speaker 1: more recently, he's he's been robbed a couple of times

437
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Speaker 1: in the last week or so, and he has sick

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Speaker 1: some runs and eleven stolen bases. Like I think, I

439
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Speaker 1: assuming he doesn't lose his job, which they don't. The

440
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Speaker 1: thing about Mullins is they don't have a really good

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Speaker 1: defensive center fielder besides him. Like you can argue Colton

442
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Speaker 1: Kowser could be there, but I Mullens is just better,

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Speaker 1: and they like Kowser and left because of you know,

444
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Speaker 1: the cavernous left field in Baltimore. So I think Mallens

445
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Speaker 1: is not losing his job, and if he doesn't lose

446
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Speaker 1: his job, a I think there's definite upside. Again, I

447
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Speaker 1: recognize that bad of all data is abysmal, but I

448
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Speaker 1: think the way he's swinging the bat and his track record,

449
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Speaker 1: he's still under the age of thirty, Like, I think

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Speaker 1: the average will get up another maybe twenty or thirty

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Speaker 1: points from where it is right now. And I think

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Speaker 1: there's a world where he hits fifteen home runs and

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Speaker 1: steals twenty five bases. I mean, he's basically on that

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Speaker 1: pace already, and he's been as bad as you can

455
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Speaker 1: be to start this season. What are you missing with

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Speaker 1: Ronald Alcunya. It's power and speed. So I think Mullins

457
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Speaker 1: is a guy. He's more rostered than Blackman is, but

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Speaker 1: he's been so bad that I think he's attainable. If

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Speaker 1: you want to try and buy really low on him,

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Speaker 1: and he also might be available in your league, depending

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Speaker 1: on the format.

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Speaker 2: You're in a shallower.

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Speaker 1: League, and he will give you some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that you're missing from Acunya. So you don't need to

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Speaker 1: tell me what you think about black Man. I know

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Speaker 1: that one's a stretch. What do you think about Mullins

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Speaker 1: as a possible replacement?

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Speaker 3: I like it. I almost picked him as a BILO

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Speaker 3: this week for the article, but I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: always worried because the Oriols are so deep that he's

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Speaker 3: going to lose his job. But he hasn't lost it yet,

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Speaker 3: and so I like it.

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Speaker 1: He provides something that nobody else on the roster does,

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Speaker 1: and that's he outside of like the superstars like Gunner

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Speaker 1: and Adley, he might be the guy who's least likely

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Speaker 1: to lose his job on the team because they don't

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Speaker 1: have a speedy, elite defensive center fielder.

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Speaker 3: I think that had enough to like really force him

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Speaker 3: out of the lineup yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who are your replacements that you're thinking about?

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Speaker 3: So I looked around and it was ugly. One name

482
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Speaker 3: that came to mind that I mentioned as a waiver

483
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Speaker 3: wire pick. Up a couple of weeks ago. Is Lars Newbar.

484
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Speaker 3: It's just someone who the underlying data is just pointing to,

485
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Speaker 3: you know, he's coming around now that he's now that

486
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Speaker 3: he's healthy. He's available in more than sixty percent of league,

487
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Speaker 3: so he's actually someone you can go out and get.

488
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Speaker 3: And he's he's just someone who just looks like a

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Speaker 3: professional hitter. I know Welsh is a big fan of

490
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Speaker 3: Lars Newpar and has been for a few years. I

491
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Speaker 3: think we're starting to see him show signs of life there.

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Speaker 3: Obviously you're not going to replace Ron Mocunya, but he's

493
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Speaker 3: someone who could just step in and be a cromulent outfielder.

494
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Speaker 3: I know you like that word. And so he's he's

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Speaker 3: the first name that kind of jumped out of was like,

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Speaker 3: oh okay, I could live with that. The other name,

497
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Speaker 3: he's probably not available most places. Ian happ He's available

498
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Speaker 3: in like more than forty percent of league, So he

499
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Speaker 3: might be out there in your league as someone who's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, showing signs of life getting a little hot.

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Speaker 3: You might have to piece this together, you know, grab

502
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Speaker 3: a guy for a couple of weeks, just ride it out.

503
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Speaker 3: You might have to just do that with your your

504
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Speaker 3: spot until something sticks or a solaire is available in

505
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Speaker 3: almost fifty percent of leagues. He's someoney. Don't give you

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Speaker 3: some power if he comes back healthy. And you know

507
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Speaker 3: he was off to his slow stars too and then

508
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Speaker 3: went on the injured list, but he's got some power

509
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Speaker 3: potential area. He's probably not going to give you a

510
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Speaker 3: ton of stolen bases, but he's the kind of guy

511
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Speaker 3: that didn't get hot and win you some weeks and

512
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Speaker 3: had the head leagues and help you out in the

513
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Speaker 3: power department. And after that, there's not a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: There's some guys on the reds because they've been so

515
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 3: banged up, like Jake Frayley or like DJ Friedel, but

516
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Speaker 3: like they've been on and off the aisle all the

517
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Speaker 3: year two and so who knows what we're going to

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Speaker 3: get out of them. But like a lot of it's

519
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Speaker 3: like dark throws in that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the real answer is you're not

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Speaker 1: replacing him, right, Like that's obvious.

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Speaker 2: So so when I.

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Speaker 1: Look at this, and the reason why I like Mullins

524
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Speaker 1: is because you're replacing at least a couple of the categories, right,

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Speaker 1: You're not getting forty seventy from Mullens. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think if he stays healthy, I

527
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Speaker 1: think you're getting fifteen thirty from him, and that's you're

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Speaker 1: not going to find that just anywhere. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking to replace one or two categories of acunya

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Speaker 1: and try and piece together in the aggregate elsewhere is

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Speaker 1: really the best you can hope for. I know, before

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Speaker 1: we get off this topic, you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Braves lineup.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so real quick. The good timing for this episode.

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Speaker 3: It's as much as I hate recording on Wednesdays, but

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Speaker 3: we now have two days of Braves lineups post a Kunya.

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Speaker 3: And the good news is we have a lefty and

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Speaker 3: we have a righty lineup, and so there's some interesting changes.

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Speaker 3: The first lineup post a Counye we saw was against

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Speaker 3: a lefty and they bumped Albi's up to the leadoff

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Speaker 3: spot and he had been in the two hole, so

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Speaker 3: they moved him up from the two hole to leadoff.

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Speaker 3: So that's good for Albi's in a sense because you

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Speaker 3: want him leading off, although I kind of would prefer

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Speaker 3: him in the two hole. The bad news for Ozzie

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Speaker 3: Albi's is against righty's, where before he had just been

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Speaker 3: in the two hole regardless no matter who was pitching.

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Speaker 3: He was in the two hole. Now against righty's he's

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Speaker 3: betting fifth, which is not as great. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: not terrible. Fifth is not terrible, especially in a good lineup.

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Speaker 3: But if you were asking me if I would rather

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Speaker 3: have Albi's first against lefties and fifth against righty's or

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Speaker 3: second against everybody, I would pick second against everybody. Austin Riley,

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Speaker 3: who had been batting third when everyone was healthy, is

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Speaker 3: now he batted second against both lefties and righty's, which

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Speaker 3: is interesting, especially because he's be struggling. Ozuna and Olston.

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Speaker 3: Three and four have not changed at all. Michael Harris,

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Speaker 3: who had been batting like seventh and eighth for most

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Speaker 3: of the year, against a righty yesterday, that a leadoff,

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Speaker 3: so that's good for him. But against the lefty he

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Speaker 3: was still kind of buried in the lineup, so he

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Speaker 3: you know, you're not They're not just like plugging him

563
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Speaker 3: at leadoff and just letting him go like it looks

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Speaker 3: like against righty's they want to try him at leadoff.

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Speaker 3: But overall a net positive for Michael Harris. He's not buried,

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Speaker 3: you know, assuming you know, this is just two lineups,

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Speaker 3: so who knows what's gonna happen going forward, but this

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Speaker 3: is at least an early snapshot of what they're thinking.

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Speaker 3: And then the other kind of interesting note is Sean

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Speaker 3: Murphy was fifth against the lefty, six against the righty,

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Speaker 3: so he looks like he's gonna be penciled in like

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Speaker 3: fifth or six against the lefty. They moved Adam Davall

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Speaker 3: up to up to six. He's a guy we're gonn

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Speaker 3: talk about a litle bit later, but he's probably someone who

575
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Speaker 3: was more in a platoon with Jared Kalennick. Now he's

576
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Speaker 3: probably gonna be playing pretty much every day. He was

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Speaker 3: six against a lefty, eighth against a righty, and then

578
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Speaker 3: Kellennick was still buried at ninth against the lefty. But

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Speaker 3: the thing is he is in the lineup against the

580
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Speaker 3: lefty where he had been missing a lot of those lineups,

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Speaker 3: and he was seventh against a righty. So the main

582
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Speaker 3: takeaways there Albi's moving up but also dropping back against righty's,

583
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Speaker 3: Harris's moving up to leadoff, Riley going frit to two,

584
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Speaker 3: and Duval and calenda kind of in the lineup every day.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to our next topic here, and we're

586
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Speaker 1: a little quicker on some of these others because there

587
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Speaker 1: was less player specific stuff and more just kind of

588
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Speaker 1: storylines around baseball. One of them is that Angel Hernandez

589
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Speaker 1: has suddenly retired, and there was a lot of you know,

590
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Speaker 1: the wicked Witch is dead type celebrating on Twitter when

591
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Speaker 1: that happened. You know, it was a very unifying moment

592
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Speaker 1: for baseball fans to see this umpire who was famously

593
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Speaker 1: been not very good at his job no longer torturing

594
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Speaker 1: us with his bad calls. And you know, of course,

595
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Speaker 1: like Joe West came out and was like he's believed

596
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Speaker 1: it or not, he's actually a good umpire. It's like,

597
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Speaker 1: we actually have stats now that show when umpires are bad.

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Speaker 1: You next, Joe, Yeah, and the way I saw it phrase,

599
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Speaker 1: which is very accurate, which is, well, yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: good umpire, prepared to like the guys you see in

601
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Speaker 1: Little league, but like he wasn't good for a major

602
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Speaker 1: league baseball umpire. He often made himself at the center

603
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Speaker 1: of the story and you know, the classic Keith law

604
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Speaker 1: like hashtag ump show he was a frequent contributor to

605
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Speaker 1: that and the highlight reels of some of the calls

606
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Speaker 1: he's missed a pretty laughable honestly, Like they are some

607
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: of the best best memes of that night. So it's

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Speaker 1: funny because like you should it's like an offensive lineman, right,

609
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be able to name the umpire. If you

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Speaker 1: know the umpire's name, he's probably doing a bad job.

611
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Speaker 1: And he was the name everybody knew more than anybody

612
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Speaker 1: besides maybe Joe West, like he everybody knew Angel Hernandez,

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Speaker 1: and everybody knew he.

614
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Speaker 2: Wasn't very good at his job.

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Speaker 1: The fact that this happened in the middle of the year,

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Speaker 1: I think it's very obvious that Major League Baseball was like,

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Speaker 1: let's come to this. You know, we're either gonna fire

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Speaker 1: you or we're gonna come to a mutual agreement that

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Speaker 1: it's time for you to hang it up. And he

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Speaker 1: opted for the mutual because if this was a planned, oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to spend more time with the family, you

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Speaker 1: definitely finish out the season.

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Speaker 2: So I think that was very obvious and.

624
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Speaker 1: To that point, like it's kind of nice to see

625
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Speaker 1: an umpire facing accountability for consistently missing calls.

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Speaker 2: What did you think when he saw the news?

627
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Speaker 3: I was overcome with joy. I also immediately tweeted out because,

628
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Speaker 3: like the first report came out from Bob Nightingale, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, this would be too perfect because we

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Speaker 3: have the worst umpire and the worst reporter. And so

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Speaker 3: if if Bob Nightingale got the report wrong that Angel

632
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Speaker 3: Hernandez was retiring, I mean what an all time or

633
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Speaker 3: that would be. So that was my initial hope was, like,

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Speaker 3: as much as I want Angel Lindas to retire, I

635
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Speaker 3: also really want this report to be wrong because that

636
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: would just be too perfect. Yeah, everything you said. The

637
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: thing about him is he wasn't just the worst umpire.

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00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: He was also a jerk and that's why, and like you,

639
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: like he said, he made himself a part of the show.

640
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: And he also sued the league for like he tried

641
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Speaker 3: to sue the league for being racist, and not only

642
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: did I would love to like be inside that courtroom too,

643
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: when like they had to like do these arguments, because

644
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: not only did like MLB provide like actionable data saying

645
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: like no, there is no like history or racism here,

646
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: There's no like you know, you know, minority umpires are

647
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Speaker 3: getting like fewer assignments than like it showed that it

648
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: was like very even, but you know, you know they

649
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: also like wheeled out like a TV into that courtroom.

650
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: We're like, sir, here's how bad you are at your job,

651
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: and like the fact that you're even getting any playoff

652
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: appearances shows how strong your union is. And so like

653
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: we should be having we're having we should be having

654
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: a different conversation of like, not you not getting like

655
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: world series assignments, You should not be working here, and

656
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: so like the fact that he decided to like sit

657
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: there and take it, would be would be I would

658
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: just love to see that. I wish that footag would

659
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 3: get leaked some day, but I don't think we'll ever

660
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Speaker 3: see it.

661
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's funny because there was like the comments

662
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: that you know, all my life, I want to grow up,

663
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I want to be an umpire, And it's funny. I

664
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: was like, I wanted to be a player like or

665
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: a broadcast like a fire was never was ever high

666
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: in the list of what I wanted to be. But

667
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: everybody has different dreams. I don't know, if we didn't

668
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: need to spend too much, too much time on this,

669
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: but just obviously one of the bigger stories in baseball

670
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Speaker 1: now speaking of racism in baseball's history. We had very,

671
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: very historically significant news this week that the Negro League's

672
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: stats are going to be added into the official Major

673
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Speaker 1: League Baseball record.

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Speaker 2: So and that happened just today on Wednesday.

675
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: So not only is this just a very like significant

676
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: step for Major League Baseball, but we have new leaders

677
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: and leader boards in some pretty key stats. Now, these

678
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: are going to be great stats because these players didn't

679
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: play as many games, you know, in their careers. So

680
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're not resetting like the home run leader

681
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: board or anything like that. But we have a new

682
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: all time career batting average leader and it's Josh Gibbs.

683
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Speaker 1: And so this caused quite a stir. There was a

684
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: lot of celebrating on Twitter. There was a lot of,

685
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, comments against this. I have some thoughts on it.

686
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm curious what your initial reaction was.

687
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: I have some mixed thoughts about it. I have the

688
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: book the what is the name of the book, The

689
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: Negro Leagues are the Major Leagues or something like that

690
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: that came out a couple of years ago, I think

691
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: when they were when they were like first kind of

692
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: like starting on this project, I think base Like it

693
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: was like I think I got through Baseball Reference at

694
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: the time, and so part of me is like very

695
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: excited because there are a lot of really famous Negro

696
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: League players that I've like, especially like being like a

697
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: huge baseball fan, and like I think a lot of

698
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: people who are like big baseball fans, you love kind

699
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: of like diving into the history. It was even luckily enough,

700
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: lucky enough in college to take a history of baseball class,

701
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: which was a lot of fun, and we kind of

702
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: got to like build our ideal like perfect baseball team

703
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: as part of like a bigger project kind of a thing.

704
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Speaker 3: And I remember like putting cool Papa Bell on my

705
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: all time team just because like he was just like

706
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: someone I found through the tai coab biography, like stories

707
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: about cool Papa Bell and like all like the legends

708
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: of like, you know, he was so fast. He would

709
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: hit a line, drive up the middle, hit himself on

710
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: the headslide into second kind of kind of stuff.

711
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: So what I heard was that he would flip off

712
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: the switch in the bedroom and he'd be under the

713
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: sheets before the lights went out.

714
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that one I forget how exactly it works.

715
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: There was like some truth to that story, and it

716
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: was because like it was one of those like rickety

717
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: lights where like you would like get the switch and

718
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: it wouldn't like go right away, so like he would.

719
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: I think, like that's where that legend kind of started.

720
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: But it is like there was like so many fun

721
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: personalities and like incredible players obviously that came out of

722
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: the Negro leagues, and so like that part of our

723
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: I really love it and I like celebrating that that stuff.

724
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: It does make a lot of the record books very messy,

725
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: and so I think just rolling it all out and

726
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: just being like here are the new numbers is kind

727
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: of like a really messy way to do it. I

728
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: would prefer even if you're just going to like over

729
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: overwrite the record books, we at least have like the

730
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: league you were in, like next to the name, even

731
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Speaker 3: if it was just like you know, like cause there

732
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: are like seven different Negro leagues there, including I want

733
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: to see like those leagues because I think there's a

734
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Speaker 3: lot of like history there too, of like which of

735
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: those leagues you came from, and so I would like

736
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: to be able to see that. Even if it's just

737
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Speaker 3: like you know, like the certain Negro League or like

738
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Speaker 3: American League or National League or like the other leagues

739
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: that were out there, and it's kind of like, I

740
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: don't know's I kind of struggle with it because, like

741
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: you said, like they played not a ton of games,

742
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: like you know, it was like a fifty or sixty

743
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: game season. We're also missing a ton of stats. They

744
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: only estimate they have like seventy seven percent of stats.

745
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: And the stats they did find were like sometimes they

746
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: found like one box score from like one local reporter

747
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: who just like kept the score on his own, and

748
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: so the legitimacy of some of them are like calling

749
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: into question. But they did do like a ton of research.

750
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: They were like even like watching old film to like

751
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 3: make create like their own stats from some of these

752
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: games or whatever. And it was really kind of difficult because,

753
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: like you said, they didn't play a ton of games,

754
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: but they just because like the nature of the leagues,

755
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: the schedules were all over the place. But they also

756
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: played a ton of like exhibition games, and that's why

757
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: you see the stats that like Josh Gibson actually hit

758
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 3: like over eight hundred home runs, like he only has

759
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 3: like one hundred and seventy nine or something that officially

760
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: kind of forget their artual number. But then it also

761
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: kind of sucks that like Ty Cobb, who played like

762
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 3: a million years and had over eleven thousand of bats

763
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: and bad three sixty seven. Now Josh Gibson is the leader,

764
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: but he only had twenty two hundred bats, and so

765
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: like that part is like kind of like, well, that's

766
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: kind of that's kind of so I'll.

767
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: Just cut in to say, so, I want to be

768
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: really careful about this because like, like, there are ways

769
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: to have this conversation that are I think so much

770
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: disrespectful to the history of the Negro League.

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00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't think either of us wants that.

772
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm very excited and supportive of recognizing and

773
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: honoring those players, and they are some of the best

774
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: players who have ever played the sport, and they deserve

775
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: recognition and honor. I really like the idea of renaming

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00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: the MVP Award after Josh Gibson, Like I'm really on

777
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: board with. Yeah, So I forget who it might have

778
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: been CBS Sports somebody put it out there, because I

779
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: know I know his right now. I think it used

780
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: to be Kennesaw landis and but he was very obviously

781
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: supportive of keeping baseball segregated. And so I think Josh

782
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: Gibbson's great fands I was saying, how how cool would

783
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: it be to now have a black player be what

784
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 1: the MVP is named there after? So I'm on board

785
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: with that kind of suggestion, and I'm not even necessarily

786
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: opposed to having so. Like philosophically, I do think it's

787
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: like a little illige to have stats from different leagues

788
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: be kept in the same book. Like the fact that

789
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: we had to have the negro leagues is like a

790
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: pretty like deeply shameful part of our sports past and

791
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: our country's past. So like, I think the value in

792
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: recognizing and supporting that history outweighs the I think it's

793
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: weird to have players that competed against different groups books,

794
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, group together, because there are other like like

795
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: you said, like negro leagues, we're a major league, there

796
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: are other like iterations of Major League Baseball that are

797
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: in the official record books. So like that that is

798
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: a very minor like I kind of like squint at it,

799
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: but I'm very okay because I think the good outweighs

800
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: I say negative in air quotes, but the good outways

801
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: and negative there for me. The reason I the part

802
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: of it I don't like, I might even say the

803
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: reason I don't like it because again overall I support

804
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: the goal here. The part of it that I don't

805
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: like is just the lack of sample size. Like I think,

806
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of crazy, quite honestly, to say

807
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: a guy who had like, what did you say, twenty

808
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: two hundred that bats is ahead in the all time

809
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: career batting average leader board over a guy who had

810
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: eleven thousand. I mean, Josh Gibson played the equivalent of

811
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: like four major league seasons, and again you're right, there

812
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: was the exhibition and a great player like that is

813
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: to take nothing away from what he is or the

814
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: impact his legacy should have, or the legacy the negro leagues.

815
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: But like, I think sample size matters in a sport

816
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: like baseball, and the single season stuff too.

817
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean, like that's what I was gonna say, is

818
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: the single even more like you can you can get

819
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: behind that, like okay, like it's not nearly as many

820
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: as Taychon, but like it's still still a lot. The

821
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: single season stuff is wild it's like a month and

822
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: a half of games.

823
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: It's essentially you know what it is. It's essentially the

824
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: COVID year. It's like the stats and the COVID year.

825
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: Well, then they used part of that to like justify like, well,

826
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: we've already done this. Weird did the COVID year and

827
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: there was there was like another year or two in history,

828
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: and like they didn't alays play as many games, but

829
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: they were like, oh, like we've done this before, but

830
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: you'll have to make that the default.

831
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Speaker 1: If somebody, if somebody batted four to ten in the

832
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: COVID year, no baseball fan alive would consider that the

833
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: legitimate batting average. Oh, they were the first four hundred

834
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: batting average since Ted Williams. Nobody would say that because

835
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: we would all recognize that it's ridiculous to do that

836
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: in a fifty So, like, the problem is, I could

837
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: see people who are looking at this from a like

838
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: a truly like who are like biased, and like I'll

839
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: just say, like racist. I bet there are racist fans

840
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: who would say, oh, we should have like a minimum

841
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: number of at bats in order to be eligible for

842
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: the leaderboard, in an effort to basically lock out any

843
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: newgro Leagues player, and that is wrong. However, as a

844
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: baseball statistical like person who's very interested in stuff, and

845
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: I think you're I think baseball, more than any other

846
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: modern professional sport, cares deeply about its past and the

847
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: stats of the past. Like everybody knows howbody home runs

848
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: tank Aaron hits. I don't think many people that know

849
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: how many passing touchdowns Tom Brady had, and that was

850
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: a more recent career like this, the numbers just mean more.

851
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: And I do think for rates stats like in a

852
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: sport like baseball, Like again, hitting whatever you hit in

853
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: sixty games compared to one hundred and sixty two, it's

854
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: not the same thing. Hitting whatever you hit in six

855
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: hundred career games as opposed to three thousand is not

856
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: the same thing. And I recognize that you have to

857
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: have a trade off because it was not a perfect

858
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: system back then and there's only so much you can

859
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: do now.

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00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: That part of it does bother me.

861
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: And again, the most important thing is that we celebrate

862
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: these players and the impact they made, like that's step one.

863
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: But it does rub me the wrong way that we

864
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: have a.

865
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: New career batting average leader who played in less than

866
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: a fifth of the games of the previous guy, And

867
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what the solution is for that, And

868
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: I recognize that the most of the solutions for that

869
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: are simply unfair to the black players who played in

870
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: the negro leagues.

871
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: So I don't want to.

872
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: Say that the only option here is to just eliminate

873
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: them from the record books. But I don't like that

874
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: part of it, and that is strictly from a status

875
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: historian type of And the other thing I will say quickly,

876
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: I have not read the book you mentioned. I also like, like,

877
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't consider myself like ignorant on

878
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: the history of baseball, but I recognize I'm not a

879
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: subject matter expert on the history of negro leagues either,

880
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: So like I don't want to I'm One thing I'm

881
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: definitively not doing is sitting here and saying like I

882
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: can tell you how what the quality of this league was,

883
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: and it wasn't good enough to be compared to be Like,

884
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: I like that was a segregated league. Major League Baseball

885
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: was a segregated league. Like they also didn't play against

886
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: half the talent pool theoretically, so like I like that

887
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: is not my issue at all.

888
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: It's it's sample size.

889
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: And again I say issue kind of an air quotes,

890
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's not my favorite part of this.

891
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I kind of went through like some of

892
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: the same things. I was like, well, how the how

893
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: would you fix this? And I was like, well, maybe

894
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 3: we had like a minimum and I'm like no, now

895
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: it just feels like I'm errymandering, like like I'm trying

896
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: to exclude them, which is exactly what would happen. And

897
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: the other kind of thing was like, well, what about

898
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: the quality of the league. It probably wasn't as good,

899
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: but I also don't really know like how good it was.

900
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: And the truth is, the quality of Major League baseball

901
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: back then was also not good, like.

902
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: Talk about like Babe Ruth would strike you out of

903
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: three pitches every at bad if you dropped him into today,

904
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Like yes, the white leagues were also not as high

905
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: quality as now.

906
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so there's kind of like you can argue

907
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: both sides for like any kind of argument, like you know,

908
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: you can play double double side kids advocate for either

909
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: side of that, and so that part of that, and

910
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: that's kind of why my initial solution was like just

911
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: listed on the record books. Just let me see who

912
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: which league like anyone is in, Like let me filter

913
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: so I can like look and do my own research

914
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: and stuff. And like if you want to call it

915
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: Josh Gibson like the batting leader, like that's fine. I

916
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: just want to see like the leagues that people are in,

917
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: so I can you know, look at you know, like

918
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: everything in one place. Because I don't don't think there's

919
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: a perfect solution that doesn't involve just excluding them. And

920
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's the right answer either, because

921
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: like I said, like we need to celebrate these players.

922
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 3: And there it also like a lot of people everyone

923
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: knows who Babe Ruth is, right like you if you

924
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: walk down the street. Even people who don't watch baseball

925
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: know who Babe Ruth is. None of them know who

926
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: Josh Gibson is. And and this can help kind of

927
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: rectify that and like help celebrate those Negro League players.

928
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: And so that part of it is very fun and exciting.

929
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: The record keeping is messy, but it is for now

930
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: the best sason we have and we'll just kind of,

931
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: you know, figure it all out together as we go forward.

932
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say even like like correcting what I

933
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: said before, like, like, I don't think the good outweighs

934
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: the bad. I think the good out weighs the confusing

935
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: the good out ways the like, I don't think this

936
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 1: is the right answer, but I don't have a better one.

937
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: And the again, the ability to let young fans and

938
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: middle aged fans who haven't looked into this stuff, like

939
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: let them know how great Josh Gibson was. And and

940
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to just say this is only about

941
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Josh Gibson. He's just kind of the biggest name obviously

942
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: here because.

943
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: On the top of all the leader boards because of

944
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 3: the well ops average everything, he leads everything.

945
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: Now, I mean everybody that like has ever kind of

946
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: talked about baseball and the old times has said like

947
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: he is like one of the greatest hitters who's ever

948
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: ever lived. So it's like it was very unsurprising for

949
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: me to see that he's the one who's kind of

950
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: atop all these leader boards. But you know, there are

951
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: other players that we will learn about and people and

952
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: young fans coming up will have as part of the

953
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: record books. And that's wonderful and I really support it.

954
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I said, the sample sized thing is

955
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: like I like I said, it's not my favorite part

956
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: of it, but I again, everything else that they're doing,

957
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: there's no need to believe this point.

958
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: But but it's also like the same thing like in

959
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: football that we argue like, oh, like they played like

960
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: the easiest schedule. Yeah, they played what you put in

961
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: front of them, and like, you know, it is what

962
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: it is at that point. So, like they played sixty

963
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: games a year because that's what they had access to.

964
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: The probab would have played a hundred sixty if you

965
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 3: let them play a hundred.

966
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh of course, of course they would have if they

967
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: had the chance. Yeah, they well they probably did.

968
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: Also if you include exhibition games, we just only counted

969
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: sixty of them.

970
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's totally legitimate too.

971
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's it's really hard for me to

972
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: take it out of the frame of mind of like again,

973
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: if some how many games have been played this year,

974
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean we're at the end of May, it's like

975
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: probably close to it's like between fifty and sixty right

976
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: at this point two months in Like, can you imagine

977
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: looking at the leader words and being like, all right,

978
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: you just set the single season batting average record on

979
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: base Percenter record. Now it would sound ridiculous, and again

980
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: there's probably not a better solution. So ultimately really glad

981
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: that they were celebrating these players and kind of remembering

982
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: them in a way that they deserve to be remembered

983
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: and honored and celebrated. So we'll see continues to come

984
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: of that. But a very cool, very significant day in

985
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: the history of Major League Baseball. Let's get into our

986
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: Bilow cell high. I will go first, and this is

987
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: drawing from our featured pros article on the site, which

988
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: is labeled ten Fantasy Baseball players to trade.

989
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 2: Now, like I said, we've got some bilos and sell highs.

990
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: I will be picking my favorite submissions of the week,

991
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: and my favorite by Low is Framber Valdez.

992
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: And you know, at the risk.

993
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: Of just drawing directly from the write up from you know,

994
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: our writer, I want to lend some of my own opinions,

995
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: but also they include a lot of good points. Is

996
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: that the injury, yes, was a thing with Framber early

997
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: and he was recently hit hard against the Angels, but

998
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: he's been pretty consistent outside of that.

999
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: We note that he hasn't seen a velocity drop. He's

1000
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: still inducing.

1001
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: Grounders at a high rate and the way it's phrased

1002
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: here in the article I strongly agree with, which is

1003
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: he should be a ratio stabilizer the rest of the way.

1004
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: And I do think you can get him at a

1005
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: discount because he has an ERA over four, he has

1006
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: a WHIP over one point three. But I think the

1007
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: rest of the season, I think the track records too strong.

1008
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: I think the pitching development in Houston is too strong.

1009
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: I think the offense will be better and he's going

1010
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: to have more opportunities that wins, and I think the

1011
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: ERA and whipp are definitely going to come down. So

1012
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm willing to chalk up the early season blip to

1013
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: the il stint, and you know it being early enough

1014
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: that one or two bad starts really makes a big

1015
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: impact on what your season long numbers look like. Like

1016
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: we always say in this section, I'm not buying him

1017
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: at any cost, but if I can actually buy low,

1018
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think could be, in the

1019
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: right format, really valuable in the second half of the season.

1020
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on board with that. I was looking at

1021
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 3: his numbers before the show, and he's kind of someone

1022
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: I've looked at a lot recently because he's kind of

1023
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: off to us, so I'll start, you know, maybe considering

1024
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 3: him as a by low. The really interesting thing about

1025
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: him is he has a ground ball rate of over

1026
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 3: sixty six percent, but his home run to fly ball

1027
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: rate is twenty five five percent, So one in every

1028
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: four fly balls are going for home runs despite keeping

1029
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: the ball on the ground at an elite rate. That's

1030
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: why that's just atrocious luck. And now part of those

1031
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: guys is hard hit rate is a little bit up.

1032
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: But there's nothing in his profile that says like this

1033
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: can't this can't get better. I think it's going to

1034
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: normalize over time.

1035
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: By the way, just so you've credit the writer who

1036
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: picked him, I wasn't actually totally sure how to pronounce it,

1037
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Pierre Camu Camus.

1038
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 3: I thought it was Camus, Pierre Camus.

1039
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I was just assuming Pierre kind of sounds French,

1040
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: and so that was that was like c am Us.

1041
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: I've read his work a bunch, but I have never

1042
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: actually said his name out out, So I apologize if

1043
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: I got that wrong. He's he's from Fantasy Endgame, But

1044
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: who's your bilo here.

1045
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: He's someone we've talked about recently, and it's Austin Riley

1046
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: for all the obvious reasons, and the main reason being

1047
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: the manager who currently has him is probably very frustrated

1048
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 3: because not only is he off to a slow start,

1049
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: but you just did two weeks without him in your lineup,

1050
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: but also without him on the IL, and so I

1051
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: think it's a good time to buy low. The man

1052
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: was probably happy to have him back in their lineup,

1053
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: but also probably not thrilled with the production thus far,

1054
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: and so for that reason, I'm looking to buy high

1055
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: or buy low. The The contact data is not nearly

1056
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: as good as it was in twenty twenty three when

1057
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 3: it was just elite pretty much across the board, except

1058
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: for like, you know, the whiff and strikeout rate, which

1059
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: is you know, just kind of like part of his game.

1060
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: It's still not terrible. Bat speed's still way up there.

1061
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: Barrel numbers, hard hit rates all still very good. We've

1062
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: kind of talked about that a little bit in the past.

1063
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: And so if I can buy low on him, and

1064
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: even if it's like at the at the price of

1065
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: giving up like a Zach Gallen or Kevin Gosman plus

1066
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: another piece to get an Austin Riley, I'm ready to

1067
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: buy now before he gets hot and goes on an

1068
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: unpower run, especially in leagues where I need power.

1069
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: When you said and for that reason, I'm I definitely

1070
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: thought it was a flashing back to like shark tank

1071
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: and for that reason, I'm out.

1072
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm out.

1073
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: You're in. For that reason, you're in.

1074
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm buying low on Austin Riley. Let's go to our

1075
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: cell highs here. For the cell high that I picked here,

1076
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: I picked the one suggested by arvari own the Welsh,

1077
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: he went with Carlos Rodan.

1078
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: I totally agree with this.

1079
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: His era is under three and he has six wins

1080
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: playing on the best team in baseball. So that's a

1081
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: guy that is probably, you know, you could get a

1082
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: lot for given that profile. He's got a huge difference

1083
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: between his era and has expected era. It's two ninety

1084
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: five up to four forty nine. His strike cut rates

1085
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: not very good. He's got a seven percent walk rate,

1086
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: average heard hit against his up, barrel percentage against his

1087
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: up and then, as Welsh kind of notes to wrap up,

1088
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: his is right up. The elephant in the room is

1089
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: the injury stuff and the history is really bad there.

1090
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: And if he's playing well now you can get a

1091
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: good piece for him, and I think you can, given

1092
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: what people need at pitching, and given the name and

1093
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: the team and the stats, that I would be happy

1094
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: to kind of get off that train and let somebody else.

1095
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: I'll take on that risk and if I can get it,

1096
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: if I can get a good quality piece in return,

1097
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really happy.

1098
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: To do So.

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00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed. I'm gonna go with Ben Brown. Which is

1100
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 3: now the perfect time to sell high and Ben Brown

1101
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: because he just threw seven no hit innings with tench

1102
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 3: strikeouts yesterday. And if there's ever time to sell high

1103
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: on a pitcher, it's when they do that. He has

1104
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: really good strikeout stuff. I wrote him up in the article,

1105
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: but it's a really long write up, so I'm not

1106
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 3: going to read it because you know, we say, you know,

1107
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: for these these we call him featured pros articles. You know,

1108
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: to submit like four or five sentences, I know, like

1109
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: make your case and get out. I routinely do like

1110
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: twelve sentences and just break the rule three times over

1111
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: because I just I just can't help myself. And you know,

1112
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm in charge of the article, so no one can

1113
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: tell me what to do. It's you know, I have.

1114
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: I have no oversight. There no checks and balances in

1115
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 3: future pros. So I wrote a really long rite up.

1116
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: I encourage you to read it on the site because

1117
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: I break it down more detail. But the main kind

1118
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 3: of spark Notes cliff Notes version, depending on your generation,

1119
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: is he's someone who strikes out a lot of batters

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00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: and last.

1121
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: Clift Notes and spark Notes the same time. I felt

1122
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: like we had both. I was in school.

1123
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: I thought cliff Notes kind of like became spark Notes

1124
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: or like.

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00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I just missed that transition, but I thought

1126
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: they were kind of both available.

1127
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: I think they were both available at the same time,

1128
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: but cliff Notes was first and was kind of like

1129
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: the older generation, and then spark Notes became because I

1130
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: think you can actually like buy physical cliff Notes like

1131
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 3: yahoos and like spark Notes.

1132
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: I never did that by my dad's an English teacher,

1133
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 1: so like, if he caught me with a cliff Notes book,

1134
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: I would have been in big trouble.

1135
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: But sorry, what we what were you saying?

1136
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have been in trouble too. The he's

1137
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: the strikeout picture, so it last year in Triple A

1138
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: he struck out one hundred batters and something two and

1139
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: two thirds innings. He's bounced between kind of the starting

1140
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 3: rotation and the bullpen before, and I go into a

1141
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: little bit about why in the article, and the main

1142
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: reason is because he's kind of two pitch pitcher and

1143
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: he really leans on his fastball, and I think they

1144
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: really want him to kind of develop that arsenal before

1145
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: he's going to stick in the rotation long term. I

1146
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: think he's going to stick in there in the short

1147
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: term because they're not going to pull a guy out

1148
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: of the rotation who just threw seven nohood innings. But

1149
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: he throws a good fastball over ninety six miles an

1150
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: hour on average, but he throws it over sixty two

1151
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 3: percent of the time, and he's basically just a four

1152
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: seamer or a knuckle curve pitcher, and someone who leans

1153
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: on the fastball that much, you know there's gonna be

1154
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: some regression coming. And there's there's more some there's like

1155
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: more underlying data. If you go into like the expected numbers,

1156
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 3: whether it's like x wOBA or x slugging or you know,

1157
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: expected batting average. He's in terms of like the difference

1158
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 3: between your actual average or your old BLOBA, and like

1159
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: your expected numbers, he's like first or second in a

1160
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: lot of them in the wrong direction, and so like

1161
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: it's all just like pointing for regression and so yeah,

1162
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: to avoid continuing the long rant on Ben Brown on

1163
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: a great start some concerning underlying numbers. He's going to

1164
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: provide good strikeouts, but now is the time to sell high.

1165
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull it up. I think I saw yeah.

1166
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: Front of the show, Brendan Tuma tweeted the leaderboard of I.

1167
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: Think it was his. Oh yeah, it was is his?

1168
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

1169
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: CSW percentage leaders minimum of forty innings pitched, Ben Brown

1170
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: is seventh behind Flaherty, Sale, Ladolo Gray, Scooball and Jared Jones.

1171
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: So does that change your opinion at all?

1172
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: No, because the well, the other kind of like weird

1173
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 3: backwards thing about it, and like this is not uncommon

1174
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 3: for fastballs. But so he throws his fastball over sixty

1175
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: two percent of the time. Batting average agains is two

1176
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: fifty expecting batting average agains is three twenty six. And

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00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 3: also his put away percentage on the fastibal is only

1178
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 3: fifteen percent, but for his knuckle curve and his fifth

1179
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: percentage is like is eighteen percent for the knuckle curve.

1180
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: The wifth percentage is fifty percent, and they put awayp

1181
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 3: sent is just thirty four percent. So it's very much

1182
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: like get to have with the fastball, strike out with

1183
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: the uncle curve kind of thing. And that's just like,

1184
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: there's no way that formula continues to stick at this rate.

1185
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: At least, Let's go to Waivers Central here, our favorite. Yeah,

1186
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go Waivers Central here. One of the

1187
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: guys that I referenced when talking about Acunya, David Schneider,

1188
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: leadoff hitter for the Blue Jays, twenty five years old,

1189
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: not like you know, some super duper star, but a

1190
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: guy who is pretty available. He's rostered in under twenty

1191
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: five percent of the leagues on Yahoo and under ten

1192
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: percent of leagues on ESPN. I was actually surprised to

1193
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: see that even on Yahoo under twenty five percent, just

1194
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: because he is, you know, the leadoff hitter and is

1195
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, swinging an okay bat. He's been on somewhat

1196
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: hotter lately. He's he's more owned on fan tracks, which

1197
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: is where I play a lot.

1198
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: He's almost seventy percent owned.

1199
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: So there's there's a pretty wide gap there eligible at

1200
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: both second base and outfield, at least in Fantra. You know,

1201
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: batting two fifty five is ops is eight thirty six,

1202
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: only six home runs three stone bases. I think there's

1203
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: a room for more there though he strikes out a

1204
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: decent amount, but is also walking to All in all,

1205
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: he is somebody who I think offers positional versatility, and

1206
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: there's some upside I think with the if the lineup

1207
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: he's in starts playing better, I think there's room for

1208
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: scoring more runs and having more RBI opportunities, even at

1209
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: the top of the lineup, and I think there's there's

1210
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: maybe room more power his his that gast Dad is

1211
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: interesting in that some of the numbers are really red

1212
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: and some of them are really blue. Like his expected

1213
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: wOBA is seventy fourth percentile, has expected batting average twenty

1214
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: second percentile. His average exit velocity is seventy seventh percentile,

1215
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: his average bat speed is twenty third percent file, his

1216
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: barrel rate is ninety first percentile, his wifth rate is

1217
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: thirtieth percentile. So it's very like he's been good in

1218
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: certain areas and bad in certain areas.

1219
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: But he's somebody that I think is under owned right now.

1220
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: And if you haven't needed at outfield, which I do

1221
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: win every single league i've made, I think he's somebody

1222
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: that could be at least a decent floor option.

1223
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I talked about David Snyder in this

1224
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 3: segment last week. Can we look that Upah, I'm pretty sure,

1225
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: I think so. I think this is my pick last week.

1226
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: I have zero recollection of that zero. Did we rush

1227
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: through it or something?

1228
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 3: Even some of the things you were saying, I'm like that.

1229
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: I truly that's that's why because we delete.

1230
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: We have the same show sheet every week that we

1231
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: just delete and refill out, so I can't go back

1232
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: and look at it. We could go back and look

1233
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: at the episode description or listen to it. That's hilarious.

1234
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: I truly genuinely have zero recollection. That just tells you

1235
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: where my mind's at with the holiday weekend and everything

1236
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: and going on vacations.

1237
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: I told you senioritis is going to set in.

1238
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: Also, you could have mentioned this before we were recording

1239
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: the show.

1240
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 3: I wanted to save it for this moment.

1241
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: I genuinely I apologize for steading that from you. It

1242
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: was a great call, I think because he's played really

1243
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: well the last couple of days.

1244
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: A zero recollection of that in my mind.

1245
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: So that's the double the cycle stamp of approval we

1246
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: both have now independently of each other.

1247
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: I will maintain go back and look.

1248
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: At the history of the sheet, but I don't want

1249
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: to click it now and like make the sheet disappear

1250
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: and we have, you know, ten minutes ago.

1251
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: No, that's great stuff. I follow dressers. Do you have

1252
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: anything to add?

1253
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: No, go back to the last week's episodes, feel like,

1254
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 3: get my thoughts on David Snider.

1255
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm looking to see our description when we

1256
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: posted it.

1257
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: No way he made the description.

1258
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: He did.

1259
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: He made the description on SoundCloud. Oh boy, Mayor recommends

1260
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: Davis Schneider. I can't believe I did that.

1261
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: I like I said, even I'm reading it now and

1262
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: you're telling me now and I still don't remember.

1263
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: So literally, a lot of stuff you talked about is

1264
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: what I talked about last week.

1265
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: Well, I'm really glad that we were on the same

1266
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: page about this. And it'd be one thing if you

1267
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: said you talked about this like three weeks ago. If

1268
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: I if I brought up like Wensiel Perez that'd be

1269
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: like okay, like that was like a couple of weeks ago,

1270
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: like one week late, literally less than a week.

1271
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: We taped on Friday last week.

1272
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: Well, it happens to me too, Even like if it

1273
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 3: was like three weeks ago, there's no way I would

1274
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: remember who it was. Because even when I had to

1275
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: do like a weekly Bylo and sell High and every week,

1276
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: I look at like three or four or five different

1277
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: players and then I'll do a little bit of research

1278
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: and then I'll pick each one. I'll pick one to

1279
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: write up for each side, and the week over a week,

1280
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: I can't remember which guy I did. Sometimes I had

1281
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: to go back and look at the articles and I'm like, oh,

1282
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: let's do I almost did Seth logo and I was like,

1283
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm really pretty sure I did two weeks ago.

1284
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: I almost did. This was a few weeks ago.

1285
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: But I almost said Alec Marsh and I was like, no,

1286
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: I remember talking about him because he shoved against the Orioles.

1287
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: That was like week one.

1288
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, sorry about that, and sorry to

1289
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: waste everybody's time, unless maybe they missed last week's show.

1290
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: And now really hammering it home.

1291
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: Who do you want a good reminder that he had

1292
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: a good week too. I think he was.

1293
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: He was really he was certainly good in my my

1294
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: Points league, I mean very good.

1295
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, so.

1296
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: My hitter is a little bit simpler. I'm going to

1297
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: go with Adam Duvall for reasons we talked about earlier.

1298
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: So you're gonna be without Ronald Kunya. Adam Dell is

1299
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: gonna be playing every day. To be determined of what

1300
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: that looks like. But obviously you know he's getting up

1301
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: there in age, but he also comes with power potential.

1302
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 3: Last year with the Red Sox, as a Red Sox fan,

1303
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: I actually was hoping that we're going to resign out

1304
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: in the box. I thought he was just a really good,

1305
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 3: affordable outfielder for them. Last year. He hit twenty one

1306
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: home runs in ninety two games, and so obviously still

1307
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: some pop in that. All that of his not going

1308
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 3: to give you a high batting average. You've had at

1309
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: two forty seven last year, and that it's actually his

1310
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: highest mark since twenty nineteen. So he's probably going to

1311
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: be in that two twenty two to thirty range. But

1312
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: if you can pair him with an average speed guy

1313
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 3: and he can give you the power, then there you go.

1314
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: He've replaced ron Kinu and your aggregate.

1315
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to the pictures here.

1316
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: I would be stunned if you had talked about this

1317
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: guy last weekend.

1318
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: I just forgot. I wonder highly Jeremiah Strata of the Padres.

1319
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: You, if you follow FATA Baseball, may have seen that

1320
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: he has struck out thirteen consecutive batters faced, which is incredible,

1321
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: and like i'd heard of, he is not the closer

1322
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 1: for the Padres, and it doesn't seem like he's even

1323
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: really like he wouldn't be threatening to knock down that

1324
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: door anyway. But I think there's value with him in

1325
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: any league other than leagues where saves are the only

1326
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: thing that matters for closers or for relief pitchers. If

1327
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: you're if you're in a HOLDZ league, I don't think

1328
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: he's a guy I'm recommending.

1329
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: I think he's a must.

1330
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Add if you are in a points league where strikeouts

1331
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: are worth a lot, and that's that's the league I

1332
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: have him in, where saves are worth something, but so

1333
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: our strikeouts.

1334
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: I think he's a must ad.

1335
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: Like I am a huge proponent when looking at relievers

1336
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: in a looking at strikeout to walk ratio and his

1337
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: on the season is twenty eight to four, and the

1338
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: other numbers are all really good too. Obviously, his eras

1339
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: zero point five to five. His whip is also zero

1340
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: point five to five, batting average allowed zero point nine

1341
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: to three.

1342
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: You know, five hits, four walks in.

1343
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: Sixteen and a third innings, just the one run on

1344
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: the season. I think there's a decent chance he stumbles

1345
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: into a couple wins here and there, a couple of

1346
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: saves here and there, you know, as needed, and it's

1347
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: gonna give you a lot.

1348
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: Of strikeouts and really help your ratios.

1349
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: Like I think that we really undervalue relief pictures who

1350
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: aren't closers. And if I'm trying to identify a guy

1351
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: like that, like I'm a huge believer in the Bill James,

1352
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: like signature significance, like if you strike out thirteen guys

1353
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: in a row. I think I talked about this with

1354
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: Renel Blanco after the no hitter. I'm like, if you

1355
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: throw a no hitter and look that good, Like, I

1356
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: think it's almost like malpractice to not at least take

1357
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: a flyer. And I think if you're in a league

1358
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: other than leagues where relievers literally provide no value if

1359
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: they don't get saves every other type of format. I

1360
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: don't even think he's a recommend I think he's a

1361
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: must add, and he is available. He on fan tracks

1362
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: is a little under forty percent rostered.

1363
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: I want to pull up.

1364
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: To see yah, yeah, Yahoo nineteen percent, ESPN four percent,

1365
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: So like he's available.

1366
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: I think those numbers need to be much higher. What

1367
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: do you think about Estrada?

1368
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 3: I am in Here's what I think. I'm in a

1369
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: daily lineups league that has rewards for Holtz and I'm

1370
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: currently trying to add him right now, so he is

1371
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 3: a free agent in my league. I'm just trying to

1372
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: determine who to drop. My problem is that I'm already

1373
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: kind of heavy on pitching in that league, and I

1374
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: can't really find any you know, I can't drop any

1375
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: batters because I'm already thin on the bench. I have

1376
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: a ton of extra starters, and I'm kind of determining,

1377
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: like do I drop Charlie Morton for him? I could

1378
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: drop another reliever, but my relievers are all pretty good too.

1379
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't I like I need more relievers, so I

1380
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: should probably drop like a starter for a reliever. My

1381
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 3: relievers are Daniel Hudson, Jojo Romero, and Kirby Yates, and

1382
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: I kind of need a fourth, so I don't really

1383
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: want to swap reliever for reliever. What do you think

1384
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: would you drop Charlie Morton for him?

1385
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: You said, this is a league where it's daily and

1386
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: you get points for holds.

1387
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1388
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: I wasn't listening to the rest of your rotation, but

1389
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: I think.

1390
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know i'd give you the rest of rotation.

1391
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: I only gave a few reliefs.

1392
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: Assuming you're assuming you're comfortable with your starting pictures of

1393
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: that Morton then, honestly.

1394
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 3: Is my worst one by by a good him or

1395
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: Jordan Montgomery. But it's keeper league. I don't want to.

1396
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: I think I think as a general rule, people should

1397
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: be more willing to drop the worst players at a

1398
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: position on their roster anyway.

1399
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: So if he's the worst player you have and Estrada looks.

1400
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: As good, because guess what if a Strada comes back

1401
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: to Earth, now you have an obvious guy to drop

1402
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: when you want to pick up somebody else. So I

1403
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: think I think that roster churn at the bottom of

1404
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: at the back end of the roster should be more

1405
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: people should be more willing to do that anyway, So

1406
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: I would if you have a good starting rotation.

1407
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: Otherwise, yeah I would.

1408
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll read it real fast. My my starting rotation

1409
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: is is excellent. It's Gosmin Glass Now Sunny, Gray Tanner, Hawck,

1410
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: Chris Sale, Paul Skens, Gavin Stone, Dylan Cees, Jordan Montgomery,

1411
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: Joe Ryan, and then Charlie Morton.

1412
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: Yes, drop Charlie Morton.

1413
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: I've been forwarding starting pitcher.

1414
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: Yes for this moment.

1415
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: Yes, dropped Charlie Morton, especially because you get points for

1416
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: holds too. Like like, I don't think the strikeout to

1417
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: walk ratio is going anywhere with the strata. Maybe he

1418
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: doesn't luck in the winds and back to back outings

1419
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: like he did recently. Maybe he doesn't strike out literally

1420
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: every battery faced, but I think the ratios are going

1421
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: to be good. I'm I want him in every league

1422
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: where he provides any value.

1423
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 3: All right, well, I added him. Goodbye, Charlie Morton. You

1424
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 3: have served served well for the roals with cheese.

1425
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: Who's your picture here? We'll go quickly.

1426
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 3: My pitcher is Matt Waldron because he throws a knuckleball.

1427
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 3: For obvious, you know, obviously that's why you want Matt Waldron. No,

1428
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: he's been on a really good run recently, four really

1429
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 3: good starts in a row. He's someone I've kind of

1430
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: always like had my eye on for the obvious reason

1431
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: that he throws a knuckleball, and that's just really fun.

1432
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 3: And it's not just like a slow knuckleball, like he

1433
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: throws it like all right dicky style, Like he throws

1434
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: his knuckleball like a fastball, and he can actually feel

1435
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: like a real fastball. He doesn't try a seventy mile

1436
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: an hour fastball, and so that all is like very interesting,

1437
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like never put it together before,

1438
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: even throughout the minor leagues, was like okay, but I

1439
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 3: think what's happening now is he's leaning more into that knuckleball,

1440
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: and boy is that exciting because if you can just

1441
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: kind of control like a knuckleball like we saw Ari

1442
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 3: Dickey when I saw Young throwing a knuckleball, because he

1443
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: could throw it hard and his knuckleball, Gordon to Stackasa

1444
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: is seventy seven point four miles an hour. I don't

1445
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 3: know if you've ever tried to catch a knuckleball, but

1446
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: that is really fast. I went to high schoo with

1447
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: a guy who could throw a knuckleball, and just like,

1448
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: having catch with a knuckleball probably at like fifty miles

1449
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: an hour is terrifying. I could it was like it

1450
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: was like hitting me in the chest trying to catch it.

1451
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 3: So I can't even imagine what a seventy seven mile

1452
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 3: an hour knuckleball looks like. And he pairs it with

1453
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: a fastball that's average ninety one miles an hour, and

1454
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 3: so like to be able to combine those two, sign

1455
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: me up for that. But also, like, on top of that,

1456
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 3: four really good starts in a row. He just had

1457
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,479
Speaker 3: seven shut out of eight strikeouts and before that five

1458
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 3: innings to run, seven strikeouts, five and two thirds, one run,

1459
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 3: ten strikeouts, five and one third, two runs, six strikeouts.

1460
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,959
Speaker 3: He's just on a really good run right now. He's

1461
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: on a heater, you might say. And so whenever I

1462
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: see a pitcher like this kind of like hitting a groove,

1463
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 3: you know, especially when all the underlying numbers are better

1464
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: than you know, the service level numbers, which still aren't terrible.

1465
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 3: Let's take a flyer on that. Give me Matt Waldron.

1466
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a good case to be made. Let's

1467
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: go to weekend excitement here.

1468
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 2: I'll go first.

1469
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: We got Pablo Lopez vers Redel Blanco on Friday. Blanco

1470
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: did look pretty good in his first star back, which

1471
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: we talked about something that we were really interested in

1472
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: seeing what he was going to look like after the suspension.

1473
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: Seven innings pitched, four hits, allowed, one earned run. It

1474
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: was a home run, one walk, six strikeouts.

1475
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: If you're getting that most weeks out of Renel Blanco,

1476
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: you're really really happy in fact.

1477
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: In the and again we.

1478
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: Talk a lot about how every scoring format is different

1479
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: in that points league. I always reference that was his

1480
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: best performance her outside of the no hitter, in terms

1481
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: of just pure fantasy points allowed. So the fact that

1482
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: that came after the suspension is at the very least encouraging.

1483
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: And I will not be dropping him in mass like

1484
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: I was considering doing. I will be happily starting him

1485
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: here until the wheels look like maybe they're falling off further,

1486
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: which it doesn't appear too right now. So I really

1487
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: want to see him against the Twins and going up

1488
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: against Pablo Lopez, that's a fun matchup. We get Garrett

1489
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: Crochet versus Robert Gasser on Saturday. Crochet has been like

1490
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: awesome lately. I actually dropped him in a league early

1491
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: because I was like, well, you kind of stumbled here,

1492
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: and also like how many innings he's going to get

1493
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: this year? And I'm definitely regretting that he's looking. He

1494
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: shoved against the Orioles on Sunday, and then we get

1495
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: Joe Ryan Verse the afore mentioned fran Ra Valdez on Saturday.

1496
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: I think another really intrigued that Twins Astros series is

1497
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: really intriguing from the pitching pitching matchup perspective, What are

1498
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: you looking for this weekend?

1499
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: So I kind of went in the opposite direction, and

1500
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 3: I'm looking for pain this weekend. So I went I

1501
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: wanted to see Cayle Quantrill come back to Earth against

1502
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: the Dodgers because I'm tired of hearing about cal Quantrell.

1503
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: I want to see Blake Snell against the Yankees because

1504
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: one of two things is going to happen. Either Blake

1505
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: Snell is going to go out and have a great

1506
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 3: start against the Yankees, which is great for me, or

1507
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 3: he's just going to go out and stink up the joint,

1508
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 3: which is just also like fun to see happen because

1509
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 3: he's just gotten off to such a rotten start, and

1510
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: so I'm just kind of choosing pain. And then, you know,

1511
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: because I already included Bell, Ben Brown and my Cell

1512
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 3: High looking forward to seeing Ben Brown go up against

1513
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 3: the Reds and see what that looks like. Does he

1514
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 3: go out and dominate again or does he come back

1515
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 3: to earth? Is the Cell High window closing this this weekend?

1516
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: Against the Reds, we'll find out.

1517
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: People are asking, let's go to these season to start

1518
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: picture competition we you know, for this current week. So

1519
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: waiting to see what happens with Max Free Heel's really

1520
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: good and Gavin Stone last week I think I clearly won.

1521
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: We had I have a challenge on this one.

1522
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there's you who left some notes

1523
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 1: here in the in the show sheet. I Chris Saale

1524
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: his numbers two and zero, fourteen innings pitched, nine hits allowed,

1525
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: one earned run, no home runs, one walk, seventeen strikeouts.

1526
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: And in this league scoring and format forty seven Fantasy points,

1527
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: you had Kyle Bradish one and oh just twelve innings pitch.

1528
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: That's too fewer than mine.

1529
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: Four hits allowed, that is fewer one runs, one earned run,

1530
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: run five walks. That's five times as many walks as

1531
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: Chris Sale and an equal seventeen strikeouts in this league.

1532
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: Scorer of format thirty five point seven Fantasy points. Just

1533
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: to give reference, this is probably our best week of

1534
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: the season in.

1535
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: Terms of the two of us combined. In terms of

1536
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: how the pictures did.

1537
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: Maybe the Aaron Nola versus Cutter Crawford in Week two

1538
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: was also really high.

1539
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 2: You know, well done by the pictures. We've had some

1540
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 2: stinkers lately. This was not that.

1541
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: This was two pictures who were really really excellent this week.

1542
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: Bradish of course, mainly bullied by one good start instead

1543
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: of two.

1544
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 3: One great start, one no hitter that he got pulled

1545
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,839
Speaker 3: in because the Orioles didn't want me to win this contest.

1546
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 3: That's what really happened.

1547
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: I could not have been more on board with pulling him,

1548
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: and it had nothing to do with this contest and

1549
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: everything to do with the fact that, like he has

1550
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: a strain in his ucl and I thought he wasn't

1551
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: even going to pitch this year. I was totally pessimistic

1552
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: when this news came out in spring training, and now

1553
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: you're getting seven no hit innings. He was already over

1554
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: one hundred pitches. It was against the crappy White Sox.

1555
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, definitely do not put there's there is no

1556
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: reason to push it in late.

1557
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 2: May compared to we want this guy in October.

1558
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 3: So I was Kyle Bradish, you would have to arrest

1559
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: me to get me off that round. You would have

1560
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 3: to call stadium Ballpark security and drag me off of

1561
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: that mound in cuffs, because that's only you're pulling me

1562
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 3: from a no hitter.

1563
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: I think if you if he was through eight innings,

1564
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: then maybe you say, listen, I can go out and

1565
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: get it pitch inning, and then it's not a big difference.

1566
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: The fact that he had two innings to go and

1567
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: was already over one hundred pitches and that was already

1568
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: the most he'd thrown this year by a lot, and

1569
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: the fact that he has this injury stuff. Like, I

1570
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: think all those factors combined make it pretty easy. If

1571
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: you like, if the UCL thing was never a thing,

1572
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: then sure, let the guy, you know, go try and

1573
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: make history. If he had fewer pitches thrown that sure,

1574
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't care that he's gone seven innings. If he

1575
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: hadn't thrown that many pitches, If he was closer to

1576
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: finishing the job, then sure, let him push it a little.

1577
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: I think the fact that he wasn't close to finishing it,

1578
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he has the UCL, the fact that

1579
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: he was already at the pitch County was at I

1580
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: just to me, it was not even a question.

1581
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: I think it was an outrage.

1582
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: And I think what percentage of your outrage is because

1583
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: of this contest?

1584
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 3: A good A good amount. But I also I was

1585
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: talking to my wife while what happened. I was like,

1586
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: this guy's gonna pushing the throw no hitter and there's

1587
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 3: no chance they let him finish this game. And it's

1588
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 3: just an outrage. And I couldn't believe it. And I'm

1589
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 3: and I could believe it.

1590
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: But it's a new era. It happens.

1591
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny, said I was. I was, I forget.

1592
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 3: I think it was last night because there was another

1593
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 3: It happened again last night with the picture getting you

1594
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 3: know pulled our friend Ben Brown. But Gray Albright from

1595
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: Rasball I saw tweeted out that said, like, you know,

1596
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 3: a maddex used to be a complete game when a

1597
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: picture threw, you know, fewer than one hundred pitches and

1598
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 3: he's like, now, that's the only way anyone's ever going

1599
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 3: to throw a complete game is fewer than a hundred pitches,

1600
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: because they just won't let pictures do it anymore.

1601
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: I do think like this is maybe a conversation for

1602
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, a larger topic in a show one day,

1603
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: like the fact that a hundred is like such an automatic,

1604
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: Like okay, a hundred, that's it, Like I don't actually

1605
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: love that, But I'm also like, these teams are so

1606
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: smart and of so much money invest in these pictures

1607
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: that I'm sure like there's a reason for it beyond.

1608
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: Well it makes sense about one hundred pitches, Like you know,

1609
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: they're smarter than me.

1610
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but it is, like you there

1611
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: are situation aroundm like come on, just like what the

1612
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: extra eight pitches is going to ruin? It? Give him

1613
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: an extra day of rest next into the rotation, Like

1614
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: like I do feel that sometimes this was not one

1615
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: of those scenarios. Not a guy who's as good as

1616
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: Bradish is, but he is dealing with as significant an injury.

1617
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: For this week, I have George Kirby. He is at

1618
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: Oakland and at Kansas City. He's been kind of up

1619
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: and down this year, so I'm hoping me picking him

1620
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: will motivate him to have a really strong week here.

1621
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: It's also hard to make these calls on Wednesday, just because.

1622
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope these pictures even make two starts.

1623
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it's hard to even like identify

1624
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: you're really kind of projecting here this early in the week.

1625
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: So I went with Kirby.

1626
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 1: He's got at least one matchup there that I'm happy

1627
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: to have him go against, and you know, we'll see

1628
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: how he does.

1629
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: I'm going with the aforementioned Matt Waldron for all the

1630
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 3: reasons I already said. He throws a knuckleball, it's very fun.

1631
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 3: He's also got a match up against the Angels, who

1632
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 3: obviously do not have Mike Trout and the the Arizona Diamondbacks,

1633
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 3: who do have Corbyn Carrol, but that doesn't matter.

1634
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: So just a quick update on the season in this

1635
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: uh So I won week.

1636
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: My objection to the to the comrads.

1637
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: One week one to six and seven, so I have

1638
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 1: won four weeks. You have won week UH two, three

1639
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: and five, so you've won three.

1640
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: So we're at four to three. So it's very close here.

1641
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: And uh Stone had a good start, right, I'm not mister, Remember,

1642
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: so Freed and Stone both off.

1643
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: To good starts this week.

1644
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: So we got a we got a close one here,

1645
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: all right, We'll get out of there on that mayor

1646
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: I will not talk to you, at least in the

1647
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: capacity of on the microphone about baseball, uh for like

1648
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: a month here, So uh.

1649
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, where are you going? Where you going?

1650
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: Going to Carolina for five days and then Virginia for

1651
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: like three days, and then Delaware to the beach for

1652
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: like five days, and then Virginia for another two days.

1653
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: And so basically my family's in Virginia and we're going

1654
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: to the each So I'm gonna go visit my best

1655
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: friend and his family in North Carolina for several days.

1656
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: Then I'm going to take a train up to my

1657
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: family and then I'll just kind of be in that

1658
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: northern Virginia area and then go with them to the

1659
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: beach and then come back and fly home from there.

1660
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: So whenever I go east, because it's rare and expensive,

1661
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me take advantage of it and see

1662
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: multiple people and stay for a couple of weeks. So

1663
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: it makes it hard with the dog and getting coverage,

1664
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: especially because since I'm single. I can't just like give

1665
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: it to like a girlfriend or whatever. I have to

1666
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: like actually go pay someone.

1667
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 2: To watch my dog.

1668
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: And he's a little sick right now, So that's that's

1669
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: really unfortunate timing.

1670
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: But now I'm looking forward to it. What are you

1671
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: doing for your for your travels?

1672
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 3: I am actually going up to Long Island for my wife,

1673
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 3: a family reunion for my wife, bringing a three year

1674
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: old and one year old on a plane, so really

1675
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: excited about doing that and then flying back with them.

1676
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 3: But then after that, I am going to Switzerland with

1677
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: my wife because she is a b and UH qualified

1678
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 3: for a work trip and we get to go to

1679
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 3: Switzerland for free.

1680
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: Can we get Blaine and Andrew and Dave and Tom

1681
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: the kind of leadership here at Fantasy pros to UH

1682
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: to get our next team trip to Europe?

1683
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 2: That'd be pretty sick.

1684
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. I'd like to go to Have you

1685
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: ever been to Ireland? I went to Ireland a couple

1686
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: of years ago and it was amazing.

1687
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: Now I've done.

1688
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: I did a spring break to Italy in high school

1689
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: with my family and it was funny because my best

1690
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:28,839
Speaker 1: friends at the time also.

1691
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 2: Went to Italy. But we did.

1692
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: We did Venice, Florence, Rome, they did Rome, Florence, Venice,

1693
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: so we only like were there in the same city

1694
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: for one day. And this was before it was easy

1695
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: to communicate and go meet up quickly. So then Italy

1696
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: and then I did a trip in college with a

1697
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: friend to England to we did London and Paris, so

1698
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: those were my I've traveled a lot.

1699
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: I've been very blessed. Went to New Zealand for a month.

1700
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 1: I've you know, been to Central America, you know, Europe

1701
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: a couple of times, but but you're has only been

1702
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: twice and there's a lot of it I still need

1703
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 1: to see.

1704
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ireland is my only one I've ever gone gone to.

1705
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to do like a Mediterranean cruise this fall,

1706
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 3: but my family's all going, but I'm not able to go.

1707
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: I've been more of a yeah, I've been more of

1708
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: a states traveler, so I've I've been to forty two

1709
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: of the fifty states. So that is the one where

1710
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: I just don't have much left to check off to

1711
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: get to. And they're they're all they're not near each other.

1712
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: It's like North Dakota, Mississippi, Alaska, Maine, it's like, how

1713
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: am I gonna like, I'm gonna be getting these one

1714
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: at a time whenever I do.

1715
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 3: I don't know how many I've been to, but I

1716
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: have been to Alaska and Hawaii.

1717
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: I've been to Hawaii, not not Alaska. My parents have been.

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: My mom is also kind of tracking. She's at like

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Speaker 1: forty six. We had an r V when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, so we would drive around to national parks

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Speaker 1: and stuff, so that that knocked a lot of them

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Speaker 1: off the list. But that's uh, that's that's travel talk with.

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Speaker 2: With Mayor and worms. I hope everybody enjoyed. That's hell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know you know where you guys are traveled,

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Speaker 1: and if you have any fun stories, maybe we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about them on the show when we get back from

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Speaker 1: our own vacations. But yeah, for the next month, please

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Speaker 1: stay subscribed and we will be bringing you content.

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Speaker 2: It will just be only half of us at a time.

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Speaker 1: So until next time, Mayor, thank you, you know for

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Speaker 1: this fun start to the show, and I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again in about a month.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll see you all right.

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Speaker 2: For Mayor, I'm Ryan Warmley. Thanks you everybody for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.

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