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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And it's the

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Speaker 1: end of the line. The Super Bowl preview between the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots, the game that

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Speaker 1: we've all been waiting for. And I know you Seattle

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Speaker 1: twelve's have been waiting for this for far too long.

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Speaker 1: It's revenge time, a revenge tour. I know New England,

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Speaker 1: y'all feel good. You're like Drake May MVP, Canaday MVP MVP. Nah,

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Speaker 1: It's it's over, whit. This is ending this week, well

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Speaker 1: next week on Sunday. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: know we got to wait to get through the whole preview,

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Speaker 1: but y'all know how I feel about this one. I'm

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Speaker 1: incredibly biased, but the biasness is rooted in fact, in structure.

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Speaker 1: This team is good, Mitchell, they aren't great.

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Speaker 2: They've earned the right to be here, Richard, and you

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Speaker 2: called it from the onset of this season. This Seattle

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Speaker 2: Seahawks team has shocked a lot of people, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they necessarily shocked you. And kudos to you,

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Speaker 2: my friend, Kudos to you. You said the energy in

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Speaker 2: that building was different in training camp. And here we

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Speaker 2: are on the brink of Super Bowl Week and the

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Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks are in Santa Clara ready to strap them up.

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Speaker 1: Richard.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of storylines going into this game,

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Speaker 2: but I think the biggest one is how well Seattle's

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Speaker 2: I know he's you know, he's come onto the scene

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Speaker 2: Whether or not he wins the MVP this year, which

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Speaker 2: I don't think he will, but he's he's earned the

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Speaker 2: right to be in that discussion. He's elevated this new

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Speaker 2: England Patriots team from the depths of this league. And

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Speaker 2: credit to him and Mike Vrabel, Richard, I know you're

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Speaker 2: high on the Seattle Seahawks defense. But what challenges do

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Speaker 2: you see Drake May presenting to the Seattle Seahawk Juggernaut defense.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can get into it. Drake May presents a

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Speaker 1: plethora of issues for the Seattle Seahawks. He's mobile, he's

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Speaker 1: got one hundred and forty one yards on the ground,

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Speaker 1: had sixty six against the Denver Broncos. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: a reason Mike McDonald has had so much success against

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Speaker 1: these young young quarterbacks. Against quarterbacks under twenty three years old,

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald is six to zero. The quarterbacks have thrown

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Speaker 1: make your pause just long enough to diagnose, Hey, is

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Speaker 1: But again, this game that Mike McDonald employs, you don't

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Speaker 1: But I think I just I assume that Drake may

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Speaker 1: But this the difference between these guys and the other

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Speaker 1: They run the ball pretty well, but this is the

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna have an MVP in his future.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be this year. I'd be very surprised

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal game against the Seattle Seahawks. I mean twice

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Speaker 2: And to that point, Richard credit to Clint Kubiak and

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Speaker 2: Listen, you already broke down this Patriots roster. They've got

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Speaker 2: but Richard, if you're the Patriots, how are you game

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough because schematically, if you just take

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Speaker 1: there to the corner of the end zone, because schematically,

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Speaker 1: every defender did their job on that play. Hey, the

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Speaker 1: post route goes, the cornerback drives it to the safety

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Speaker 1: and they close that gap and they sandwich the post route.

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Speaker 1: And then number two, if he comes off and runs

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Speaker 1: He's the linebacker's responsible for that. He's gonna attach to

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Speaker 1: it's not really like, hey, we're gonna check this because

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Speaker 1: That's the last person you're expecting a vertical threat from,

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Speaker 1: which is why it works so well against that defense.

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Speaker 1: So again, a man coverage is probably the only way

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Speaker 1: you can deal with that. If they're running that consistently

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Speaker 1: the things that they they run most commonly, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: you play too shallow, you play too concerned about Jackson

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Speaker 1: That's a tough matchup. He has the entire field and

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Speaker 1: They're gonna obviously do everything they can to take Jackson

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the running backs. Richard Ramandre Stevenson has

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Speaker 2: had a resurgence this year. He has had fumbling issues

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Speaker 2: What do you do as the Seattle Seahawks to contain

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Speaker 1: The Patriots run some duo. They run a lot of duo,

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Speaker 1: problem is running against the Seattle Seahawks is Byron Murphy

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Speaker 1: Especially Byron Murphy. He does a great job splitting those

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers run game was dead,

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Speaker 1: game for the one seed. He was blowing those plays up.

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Speaker 1: And it's not even always him making the tackle, it's

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Speaker 1: kills those plays. So I think they're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: tough time. This is a reason the Seattle Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if the if Mike McDonald sees him, sees

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Speaker 1: I think he's been fantastic. He's been everything they could

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Speaker 1: imagine everything they could wish for and everything that John

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Speaker 1: And John Snyder needs to be commended and deserves a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit for what's happening. And he's had tremendous

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Speaker 1: draft classes. The heat trade mid season was a masterfull

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Speaker 1: trade and really has had a huge impact on this

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Speaker 1: to flourish is his ability to pivot. And we can

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Speaker 1: talk about Ryan Grubb and his decision to hire Ryan

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks offensive line was not great the year before.

643
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: They had a lot of issues. They have since secured throws.

644
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: Gray Zabel has had a phenomenal rookie season you talk

645
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: about a guy who's had one of the biggest impacts

646
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: of all the rookies in the National Football League. But

647
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: you don't just talk about offensive lineman a lot both

648
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: culturally within the building and how he talks, the swagger,

649
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: the confidence he brings, the relationship. I mean, you talk

650
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: about the respect Leonard Williams has for him, and and

651
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: and that that conversation on the sideline where he tells

652
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams to attack the beat gap and Leonard Williams

653
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: goes out there and gets a sack. I think maybe

654
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: a driver too later. And you talk about listening to

655
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: a rookie tell a veteran who's been in the league

656
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: eleven years or so, Hey, do this, and I think

657
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: it'll work out, and he goes and it and it

658
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: works out in the playoffs. Uh, for that matter, there's

659
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: been so many changes like that. And then move on

660
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: to dk Metcalf and Tyler Lockett being able to move

661
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: away from those guys. That's that's a tough decision for

662
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: a head coach. DK Metcalf was the number one receiver

663
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: at the time, and sure with everything JSN has done

664
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: this season, you could say, oh man, it was a

665
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: great decision, But did anybody know that at the time,

666
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: you're getting rid of a proven receiver, a proven go

667
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: to receiver for you. And I think those decisions are

668
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: the ones that have helped enhance the culture and even

669
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: culturally within the building. There's so many things where he's

670
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: been laser focused on trying to get things right, tweaking

671
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: the system just enough to Hey, what guys there. Stephen

672
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: Hauska is in there with doctor Gervais and having conversations

673
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: with the head coach, just making sure the culture and

674
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: the knobs are turned just the right way to get

675
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: guys where they're supposed to be, to push the guys

676
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: but not push them too far. And I think his

677
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: awareness and his humility with all of these things are

678
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: what are allowing him to have a great amount of

679
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: success in the National Football League as a head coach

680
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: because players respect that he's being honest, he's being transparent,

681
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: he's being human. But he's also taking care of his

682
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: guys and putting them in great positions, and you can

683
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: only respect that.

684
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: On the other side of the ball, Mike v Abel,

685
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about this guy a ton this season.

686
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: He certainly deserves to be in that conversation for Coach

687
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: of the Year. And let's look at this. I know

688
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: you don't think the Patriots are gonna win the super Bowl.

689
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: Reality is, Mike Vrabels won a couple of Super Bowls

690
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: and now he's fighting for that that first one as

691
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: a coach. You know, what type of impact do you

692
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 2: think his personal Super Bowl experience as a player can

693
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: have on this team, especially a team that has young

694
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: players and key positions.

695
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: It definitely matters. His experience definitely matters. It'll be it'll

696
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: be a huge factor. And just the way he relates

697
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: to his players, I mean he does not it's it's

698
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: he really blurs that line between player coach relationship and

699
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: you can see it. Even when there's conflict on the sideline,

700
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: he's right in the middle of it. And usually when

701
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: you see that with coaches, you're like, oh man, this

702
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: is getting rough. Mike Raveel doesn't shy away from it,

703
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't make a big deal out of it. He

704
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: looks guys in the eye says, hey, I got you

705
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: like a cool that was on me, or hey you

706
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: got to be better than that. It has grown men

707
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: and super outfits. You can recognize a doll can recognize

708
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: a big dog. Mitchell, you can recognize a big dog.

709
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: I saw him, Christian Barmore, go at it. What game

710
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: was that was the Texans? It was it was one

711
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: of the games they were on the side. They were drawing,

712
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: and I think they were winning in the game. But

713
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. He was he was perturbed about something.

714
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: And Frabel Usually coaches are like, hey, man, I don't

715
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: want to get like, get the security, like deal with him.

716
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: Frable didn't shy away from that. He said, get out

717
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: of my way. I talked to him like, hey, what's up, Like,

718
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: let's let's figure this out right now. I don't care

719
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: if it's in the public, I don't care. You can

720
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: get mad, you can get all this, but let's get

721
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this. And I think that's the

722
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: difference between coaches that are former players and coaches that

723
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: are not form players. And these are two different guys

724
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald not necessarily a former player, great football coach

725
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: and Frabel former player, great football coach. It's two different

726
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: ways to skin a cat. But you can see there

727
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: per each person's personality within their team. You can see

728
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel and the way his players are responding to him,

729
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: players that have not played as well as they are

730
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: playing for him for other teams, Guys that are going

731
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: out there and putting their bodies on the line, putting

732
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: their health and their well being on the line for

733
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: this coach and this team, and they're buying into what

734
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: he's saying because they know that he has the same

735
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: love and respect for him for them as they do

736
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: for him. And I think there's no calculating, there's no

737
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: measuring that. And I think that's a big reason why

738
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: they are where they are and they're gonna have a

739
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: lot of success long term. And again that's another reason

740
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: we don't know what the heck y'all doing in Tennessee.

741
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: But don't get me started.

742
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: It worked out for Robert Salah at least Richard got

743
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: you gotta at least enjoy that a little bit. But

744
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Yeah, I enjoy that. I'm with you.

745
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: And we got to look at this too. I mean,

746
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: this is a rematch of sorts. I know it's a

747
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 2: what shoot, thirteen years later, but Josh McDaniel was OC

748
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: back then. Richard, Josh McDaniel was the OC back then,

749
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: and you had to go against his offense. Do you

750
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: see any similarities here as you as you've been watching

751
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: the Patriots offense, you see any similarities to when you

752
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: played them? I know Tom was at the helm, but

753
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: there's gotta be some at least play calls that are

754
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: pretty pretty what's the word phil it in for me.

755
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: Richard familiar? There you go. They they run what they run,

756
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: and they he does a great job, just like New

757
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: England papers always have. They used to be so multiple

758
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: that every game would regardless of what scheme they're playing,

759
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: it's it sometimes will look like an entirely new playbook.

760
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: You they'd be running gap scheme run game against the

761
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: Broncos and then they're running outside zone against the Colts

762
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, h so, which one do you do?

763
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: And it's really based on the defense that they're getting.

764
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: So that's changed. And Rabel spoke to that. He's like, Hey,

765
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: I want to just get familiarity, especially on the defensive

766
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: side of the ball. We're not going to go and

767
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: switch the scheme. I want to get guys in position,

768
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: do things they do well that's similar to what we

769
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: did in Seattle, and just let them play football. Sure

770
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: won't make the adjustment sure, we'll understand the weaknesses of

771
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: what we're doing. But I mean, some people live in

772
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: the whole world of a jack of all trades, but

773
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: a master of none. And some would say a jack

774
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: of some is still better than a master of just one.

775
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I how I feel about that.

776
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: I think if you master, if you do what you

777
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: do well. We've had a lot of successful with that.

778
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: We won super Bowls, we got to another super Bowl,

779
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: could have got to a third super Bowl. Story for

780
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: a different day, But I think there's something to that.

781
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: But I think McDaniel is going to look at and

782
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: study this scheme. He's gonna study what the Rams had

783
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: success with. He's gonna look in his playbook and say, hey,

784
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: we have that play we have dagger. Can we put

785
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: dagger in wee we're pushing the safeties up and running

786
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: that dagger across? Hey? Can we go post corner? Could

787
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: we go dig reverse and show Hey, when those corners

788
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: are biting on that dig, bounce back outside and there's

789
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: an opening there. Can we check the football down? Hey, Drake,

790
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: may don't be greedy, don't be too aggressive, don't be

791
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: too impatient. Pushing the ball down the field. Sometimes we

792
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: can just let them back up, and that's what's was

793
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: something Tom Brady was fantastic at. Hey defense is backing up.

794
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: Give it to Amindrius defense and that's seven yards. Let's

795
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: keep moving the ball down the field. We don't have to.

796
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: We can be death by a thousand cuts if that's

797
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: what it takes. But a lot of times young guys

798
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: get impatient. So I think, I think I've seen similarities.

799
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: But how he's gonna attack the Seattle Seahawks defense is

800
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: different than how they would attack our defense is they're

801
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: running too high. For the most part, we were a

802
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: cover three team predominantly. They do run some cover three.

803
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: They can live in it at times first and second

804
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: down where they're stacking the box and guys are down there.

805
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: But a lot of his complicated exotic pressures and things

806
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: like that come from too high, and he's able to

807
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: stop the run in a too high defense. So I

808
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: think the way Mike McDaniel is going to try to

809
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: attack him is the same way Sean McVay had success.

810
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: And I think Mike did a good job of closing

811
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 1: some of those holes and shoring up some of those

812
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: defensive matchups. But we'll see that's the chess game. You know,

813
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: what the Seahawks do well is what they do. Drake

814
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: May has been proficient down the field as a passer

815
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: this season, not as much in the playoffs. He's he's

816
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: hit him down the field throws, but he was much

817
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: better during the regular season. That's kind of slowed down,

818
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: and you can blame some of the weather for that,

819
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: but I would expect him to try to go back

820
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: to that this week.

821
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: Richard, this defense, they're gonna have their hands full. They're

822
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: going to see an opponent they have not seen before.

823
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: That being said, there's already a conversation. You know, it's

824
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: only going to pick up throughout the week that this team,

825
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: this defense is starting to draw comparisons of your team,

826
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: the Legion of Boom. Do you see any similarities between

827
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: these defenses?

828
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: Not a ton, you know, and other than them having

829
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: a Seattle Seahawks jersey on different different styles, different teams schematically,

830
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: both great defenses in their own rights, fly around, they're hitting,

831
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: playing with a lot of energy, a lot of depth

832
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. You're talking about Byron Murphy being

833
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: a POTENTI could have been an All Pro this season

834
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: and he's rotating in off the bench behind guys that

835
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: are fantastic. You got a guy DeMarcus Lawrence in his

836
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: twelfth season, getting going to his first Super Bowl and

837
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: has had as much of an impact on his team

838
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: as anyone. Ernest Jones, a guy who was who has

839
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: traded to multiple teams, a cast off from the Rams,

840
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: and Rams said, hey, we don't want him. He's two

841
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: injury prone or his knee may not be good enough.

842
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: And he's come to the Seattle Seahawks mid season last

843
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: year and become a household name and a star. Wars

844
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of that defense, making big plays in

845
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: the past game, in the run game. The only interception

846
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: that the Seattle Seahawks got in the playoffs this year

847
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: was him against Brock Perdy this year and in the

848
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: divisional round, and he's been fantastic. Then you go in

849
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: the back end, you got Julian Love and those guys.

850
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: So you got Devin Witherspoon, who was an All Pro

851
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: this year. This year, you got Rik Wooland, who had

852
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: the big mistake last week but has overall fantastic this season,

853
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: especially the second half of the season. I think he's

854
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna play fantastic and have a huge factor in this game.

855
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: So it's different. It's different. I think we had more

856
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: household names. We probably had a few more all pros

857
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: on our team, a lot of bigger personalities. They don't

858
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: necessarily have the personalities, but they have the talent and

859
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: their numbers speak for themselves. I expect them to win

860
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: this game. I expect them to be sound. Those guys

861
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: are running and hitting, and again the name you're gonna

862
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: hear New England Patriots fans get prepared for it, Nick

863
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: m and Warri. That's a name you will hear a

864
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: lot in this league. I expect him to be in

865
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: the defensive Player of the Year conversation for a number

866
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: of years to come, unless they're trying to ignore Seattle,

867
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: which they're not gonna be able to after this game.

868
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: Richard, you said it, Arretie. You had a lot of

869
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: prominent voices and leaders in your locker room. I mean

870
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: between yourself obviously, Cam Earl, might be Cliff, you know, kJ, Bobby,

871
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: you know. The list goes on and on and on,

872
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: and here we see, you know, John Schneider go out

873
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: and pluck the Marcus Lawrence from the Dallas Cowboys who

874
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: said rather emphatically that he's going to Seattle to win

875
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Who do you think has stepped up

876
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: in similar role that you guys had with these leaders

877
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: on your defense?

878
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: With this current team, I mean you could say anybody.

879
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: It's been by committee. I mean you've seen the leadership

880
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: from the young guy Nick Emman Warrior. It looked like

881
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: conflict on the sideline with Tarik Woolding, but that's accountability.

882
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: And for a young guy to go up to a

883
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: veteran like that and say, hey, come on, we better

884
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: than that. We got to be better than that. It

885
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: just shows you the hierarchy and the way things are

886
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: around that team. And I think Week had a lot

887
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: of respect for that. He's frustrated at the moment, but

888
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: I don't think there was any maliciousness towards it either way.

889
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: I think there was respect. Leonard Williams is a huge

890
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: defensive leader on this team. He's his tone cent, Devin

891
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: Witherspoon tone setter on this defense. But Marcus Lawrence is

892
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: the engine. When you talk about a guy who plays

893
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: with a relentless effort every single play, he plays like

894
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: every game is a super Bowl. You see the force

895
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: fumble against brod Perty. It's a play that they've had

896
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: multiple times this season. He's had because of his effort.

897
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: His effort was rewarded with turnovers, and his effort was

898
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: rewarded a few times when Tarik's Knight knocked the football

899
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: out a few times and here comes DeMarcus Lawrence picking

900
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: it up for multiple touchdowns on this season. So in

901
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: the back end, Julian Love, I think Julian Love is

902
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: a leader. Kobe Bryant, named after the late Great, has

903
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: been a phenomenal player in this league. Has been a

904
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: He moved from corner. He was a corner when they

905
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: drafted him, downed his niche at safety, got a little

906
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: banged up and they went with a Koudah for a

907
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: little while. He's back in the lineup and again he

908
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: just stabilizes that defense. So it's by committee. There's so

909
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: many leaders, but this is a defense that is just

910
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: really well coached, really disciplined all three levels, and they

911
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: cause a lot of issues because of how well they're

912
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: coaching and how well they tackled.

913
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring you back to twenty thirteen, Richard,

914
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: if you could pluck one player off the Seattle Seahawks

915
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: defense and have them suit up with you in that

916
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl?

917
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: Who would it be? In this Super Bowl, I'm sorry,

918
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: in your.

919
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and the super Bowl you played in against

920
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: the Patriots. If you were to take one defensive player

921
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: off of this current team and have them line up

922
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: with you, who would it be? I mean, could you

923
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: imagine Nick m and Worri playing there with Cam Chancellor

924
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: and Earl? I mean DeMarcus Lawrence. I know you had

925
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: a ton of vets on the D line, but you

926
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: know somebody like that obviously had the two big D

927
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: tackles in the middle. Who do you think would benefit

928
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: your defense the most?

929
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, And be hard to take anybody off

930
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: the field. I'm being honest. You're gonna take off. You

931
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: don't take off the Hall of Famer at Mike Linebacker,

932
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna take off? Take off the Super Bowl MVP

933
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: or kJ Wright or who are you gonna take off?

934
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: Mike Bennet, Cliff Averril? Who are you gonna take off

935
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: the field? Again, That's why it's two different ends of

936
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: the fight. But I just don't see, you know, I

937
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: think they would say the same thing, you know, I

938
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: think they've feel comfortable with the group that they have

939
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: and confident in the guys that they have in their building,

940
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: because these are the guys that they went to battle with.

941
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to say we're getting rid

942
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: of anybody off that defense and getting to that same spot.

943
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's a rhythm. Sometimes it's you're right

944
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: with who you came with, and these are the guys

945
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: they came with. These are the guys they did it

946
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: with and went to battle with all season long. These

947
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: are the guys they want to line up with when

948
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: when when it's for all the marbles, and I respect that.

949
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna say we would have picked up

950
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: anybody off their defense, and I don't think they would

951
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: have picked up any off our defense. It's always easier

952
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: to say, you know what I mean in hindsight, because

953
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, we've already ran our race and got it

954
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: and got the all pros and and you know, got

955
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: our accolades. These guys or are at the beginning of

956
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: their run, so I'm looking forward to seeing how far

957
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: they can take it.

958
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: That's a very politically correct answer, Richard. I appreciate it.

959
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 2: I know where you're coming from. I know exactly where

960
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: you're coming from, Richard, this game is going to be

961
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: played in Santa Clair. I know this is a spy

962
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: you're very familiar with. Obviously the Seattle Seahawks have played

963
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: their numerous times as well. It's similar to how the

964
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: two teams played in twenty fourteen and Super Bowl and Glendale.

965
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: Do you feel that playing in a division rivals building

966
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: plays at the advantage of the Seahawks in this one.

967
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: To a degree? Yeah. I mean, I think it's familiarity.

968
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: It's not a stadium they're unfamiliar with, it's a stadium

969
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: they've played in, they've had success in, And I think

970
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: that helped us in twenty thirteen. You know, we we

971
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: were going to MetLife and we beat the heck out

972
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: of the Giants in MetLife. We had one of our

973
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: best games. And to go back there confident, understanding the turf,

974
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: understanding you've had success here. The lights are brighter, But

975
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, does it really matter. We could have played

976
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: that game on the Moon. It would have been the

977
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: same result. And so I think just the confidence of

978
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: going to somewhere that you've been and obviously there's a

979
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: stat going out that the team that's traveling from east

980
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: to west usually wins this game, not the team that's traveling.

981
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: But if we wouldn't have thrown at the one yard line,

982
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: that's that it'd probably be different. But again, this is

983
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: about as short of a trip as the Seattle Seahawks

984
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: could take and not be a home game in their

985
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: own stadium. They're wearing, They're wearing the Navy blue, the

986
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: all Navy blue, Mitchell, all the elements are there for

987
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: it to for it to just exercise these demons and

988
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: let's move forward. And I need it in my life.

989
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: So yes, familiarity with the stadium, with the team, with

990
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: the environment definitely helps their practicing at San Jose. Apparently

991
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: neither team wants to practice at the forty nine ers

992
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: facility because of this this station, this this electricity station

993
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: deal conspiracy. What do you What do you make of that? Richard?

994
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: Was that discussed at all when you were playing in

995
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: San Francisco.

996
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Not that I can remember. I don't remember.

997
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 2: Maybe there's some truth to it with all these injuries

998
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: over the last few years for San Francisco. But it's

999
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: wild to hear about it just out of nowhere.

1000
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: It is. It is really wild, But you know, it's

1001
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: always something to talk about. It will be a conversation

1002
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: this offseason. But it's a tough situation because you're not

1003
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: moving that and you're not moving the stadium. Maybe you

1004
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: can move the practice facility, but even then, it's a

1005
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: tough situation when they're in the stadium that they practice

1006
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: at the stadium and they've never yes, they have. They

1007
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: when they were in Candlestick, they practiced in the same spot.

1008
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: So that's what Jerry Rice was saying. He was like, Hey,

1009
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: we won two Super Bowls practicing in this same spot,

1010
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: So nobody talked about it. Then It's not like this

1011
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: is a new facility, Mitchell. This is not like a

1012
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: new place state they started practicing, They've had a lot

1013
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: of success there. It only becomes a story when it

1014
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: becomes a story. You know, when it was twenty twelve

1015
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: and twenty eleven and they were in the Super Bowl,

1016
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: nobody was like, oh man, what about this station next

1017
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: door to your facility. It's like, hey, maybe if you

1018
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: had to run the ball at the one, you know,

1019
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: you would have beat the Baltimore Ravens that day. You know,

1020
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: maybe if you don't throw at Richard Sherman for the

1021
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: game in the NFC Championship game, you might have a

1022
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: chance in that game. But you know, I don't think

1023
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: it was about the substation to bring that up.

1024
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: And well, I'm glad they didn't go elsewhere with that play, Richard.

1025
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: I think things would have been a little bit different.

1026
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: It certainly certainly shaped your career early on Richard. Last

1027
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: last episode, we were talking about you know what it's

1028
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: like this week, you know, leading to super Bowl, the

1029
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 2: bye week before Super Bowl. But now as we entered

1030
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: the week of Super Bowl, you know, what what do

1031
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: guys do to stay focused? I know there are a

1032
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: lot of distractions in the host city, and you hear

1033
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: tales from the past of them, But what did you

1034
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: guys do in this week of the Super Bowl to

1035
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: stay focused and locked in and remove distractions?

1036
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: Well, again, it's it's when you have a disciplined team.

1037
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: They don't just become disciplined the week at the Super Bowl.

1038
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: You know, you haven't heard a lot of news. You

1039
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: haven't heard a lot of issues or distractions coming from

1040
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks or the New England Patriots all season long.

1041
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think there was a little bit of

1042
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: an issue. You know, some legal issues and New England

1043
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks. But we don't talk

1044
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: about legal issues. We're not lawyers in this podcast. But

1045
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: for the most part, the Seattle Seahawks have their rules.

1046
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: They stay within the rules. Mike McDaniel, I mean, Mike

1047
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: McDonald runs a very good program. Players have a lot

1048
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: of respect for him. They know not to get out

1049
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: of it. Outside of it, it's not thank goodness, it's

1050
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: not an exciting city. It's not Las Vegas, it's not Houston,

1051
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: it's not Miami. So there are less opportunities to be

1052
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: susceptible too in San Jose, California. Not that they're you know,

1053
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: you can find trouble anywhere if if you look hard enough.

1054
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: But I think the week of the Super Bowl, guys understand, hey,

1055
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: this is a one week trip. This is a one

1056
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: week trip for a lifetime of glory. And I think

1057
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: that's the conversation a lot of these veterans are having

1058
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: with them. A lot of the leadership you talk about.

1059
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams has never been to a Super Bowl. I

1060
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: don't know if he's ever been to a playoff game

1061
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: before this season and had the kind of success so

1062
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence been to a playoff, has never gone to

1063
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: the championship game. Are moved past the divisional Julian Love,

1064
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: the same thing is true. Ernest Jones has won a

1065
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: super Bowl with the Los Angeles Rams, but again knows

1066
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: what it takes. I think Sam Donald locked in. These

1067
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: guys understand that this is their moment and you will

1068
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: use sacrifice for another week to have a lifetime of glory.

1069
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: Is it worth it to you? It's going out and

1070
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: having a few drinks on a Wednesday really worth it?

1071
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: During the super Bowl week? Like, is that really gonna

1072
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: take you to where you need to go? Is that

1073
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: worth it for what you're sacrificing and what you could

1074
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: be able to achieve if you just stay locked in?

1075
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's the messaging, and that was the

1076
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: messaging for us. You just got to lock in. Now.

1077
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: There are a ton of distractions and things that are

1078
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: different this week. When you land, there's gonna be a

1079
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: lot of cameras, there's gonna be a lot of fanfare,

1080
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: there's gonna be people in your face, you gotta slap hands,

1081
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: and it is different. It's not the same as every

1082
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: other week. So you can treat it like every other week,

1083
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: But there are certain media obligations for guys that probably

1084
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: aren't used to being at media, doing medias, having conversations.

1085
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: So you're having those conversations. Hey, don't promise any wins,

1086
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: don't guarantee anything, don't talk about their team sucks, don't

1087
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: give any bulletin board material. We don't need that. Just

1088
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: say the right things. They're a great opponent, great team,

1089
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: happy to be here, looking forward to a great matchup.

1090
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: That should be everybody down the line. And that's what

1091
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: reporters are gonna be doing at the big media day.

1092
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: Every single person, all sixty nine men on the roster

1093
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: are gonna get a mic in front of their face.

1094
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: Whether they're on the big stage or just off to

1095
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: the side, they're gonna get a conversation. If somebody gives

1096
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: a sound bite, it doesn't matter if you're Sam Donald

1097
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: or the guy they are just picked up a couple

1098
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. If it's coming from a Seattle Seahawks player,

1099
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: if he says, man, we feel really good about this matchup.

1100
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they match up well with us. It

1101
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: would be the same coming from everybody. So I think

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00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and this staff is go are gonna emphasize

1103
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: that to these players, And the same thing with Mike

1104
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: Rabel and his staff, they're gonna emphasize, hey, let's not

1105
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: give any bulletin board material, but hope lead the players.

1106
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: Make it fun. You get to learn about the players.

1107
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: You're going to see them on platforms like It's It's

1108
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: it's different. It's a lot of pressure on these guys.

1109
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: That's going to be different for them. But you got

1110
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: to stay locked in, get your routine, get your massages,

1111
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: and get back to your room.

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00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: Richard, we need you up there to give pr guidance

1113
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: because man, oh man, I think that you going up

1114
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: to these guys and saying, hey, I'll give you the

1115
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: bulletin board material. Richard Sherman on the mic, It's it's

1116
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: safe to say you would say every every wide receiver

1117
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: on the Patriots is mediocre.

1118
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean you were.

1119
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: Talking a little bit about it off air. I mean,

1120
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 2: I know you'd like Keyshan Boody and Stefan Diggs and

1121
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: to Mario Douglas, but man, those are some mediocre wide receivers.

1122
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: Richard Mitchell, Mitchell, I say all the right things. Mitchell,

1123
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: it's about great opponent, great team. I'm just you know,

1124
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: looking forward to a great matchup. Yes, yes, yes, I'm here, Yes, yes.

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00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: I know everyone's excited. I've done I know you, I

1126
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: know you're well equipped with knowledge in that environ, Met Richard,

1127
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: I know everyone's anxious to hear who you're gonna pick,

1128
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: and I feeling everyone knows who you're gonna pick. But

1129
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: before we go onto your pick, we got some actual

1130
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: breaking news that was just released. Here Clint Kubiak is

1131
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: the rumors are reports are coming out he's going to

1132
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders, uh as their head coach. Do

1133
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: you like that fit? If this holds true, Fernando Mendoz, Uh,

1134
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: it's just like it's a rich Ashton gent.

1135
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: It's a low quality draft, Mitchell, and it's a it's

1136
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: a you're taking the guy that you have to take

1137
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: because you know it's it's Wood Mendoza go in a

1138
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: draft with with Jaydon Daniels and and and you know

1139
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: and all those guys with with with Caleb Williams, Like,

1140
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: would he go one in that draft? Would he go one?

1141
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: If if somebody at Drake May was in the draft,

1142
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: if if there were other guys available, in this raft

1143
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: would he still be in this position? And so that's

1144
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: the thing. And then again I'm talking about a quarterback

1145
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: who I think did a great job, has all the build,

1146
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: has all the potential. But again, in order for a

1147
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: young quarterback to have success, it's it's offensive. And I

1148
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: think they're getting a good offensive coach, a guy who

1149
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: can get it put him in positions. But is there

1150
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: enough talent around him to allow him to thrive. Sure,

1151
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: there's brought Bauers, what is Ashtroon gent he gonna be

1152
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: in in uh Kobiak scheme. Maybe that's a great scheme

1153
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: for him, Maybe that unlocks him and what he can do,

1154
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: But it's just not enough information right now. Mendoza may

1155
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: be great, but is he set up for success with

1156
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: his team? And I think that's the part that's difficult. Now,

1157
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: if you said, hey, mendoz is going to Minnesota with

1158
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell and Justin Jefferson and Addison and a great

1159
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: run game and a and a defense that can get

1160
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: the job done, then you're like, Okay, I can see

1161
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: it happening. He just got to do his part. But

1162
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: when you ask for a lot of a rookie quarterback.

1163
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: I think you set the expectations so hot high it's

1164
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: hard to get there.

1165
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: Last episode, you were talking about the forty nine ers

1166
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: vacancy at DC. You were pounding the desk for none

1167
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: other than Jim Schwartz, and they go off and hire

1168
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: Raheem Morris as their DC. Richard, do you like this

1169
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: fit with Raheem Morris and San Francisco?

1170
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like it. There's familiarity either he was gonna

1171
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: be there, He's gonna be with the Rams. I mean,

1172
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: he was gonna go back to his buddies. These guys

1173
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: are all really good friends. McVay Shanahan the floor. All

1174
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: these guys are are a small, close knit group of friends. Obviously,

1175
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: Kyle and Raheem were together in Atlanta for a little

1176
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: while and they've been together multiple spots. It's a good

1177
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: fit guys. They have relationship. He has a ton of

1178
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: respect for it. He likes to scheme that Raheem runs.

1179
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he'll keep Gus Bradley around in the

1180
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: same role that he's been in, just continuing to just

1181
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: be a voice of reason, somebody they can can pass

1182
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: ideas off with, continue to challenge the concepts, continue to

1183
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: challenge the guys, and I think it's a good fit.

1184
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 1: I mean, Raheem is a great coach, is the reason

1185
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: he was given a head coaching position. I'm disappointed that

1186
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: Atlanta let him go. I thought he I thought he

1187
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: had that team playing well at the end of the season.

1188
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: It just didn't work out well enough. But it is

1189
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: what it is.

1190
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: And then finally, Richard, there's reports coming out that the

1191
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 2: Sattle Seahawks are going to be sold after the Super Bowl.

1192
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's safe to say they're selling at a

1193
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: high if they win this game. Your thoughts on this, though, Well,

1194
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: I want to be involved in that. You guys, you

1195
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: gotta need an extra investor. I got I got a

1196
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: few dollars, you know, putting in on that. But yeah,

1197
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: you know, it was part of Paul's a state sale,

1198
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: as part of the plan going in when Jody took

1199
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: over the team. This was always the expectation that it

1200
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: would get sold. It was it was actually written in

1201
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 2: the agreement. I think the league.

1202
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: They said the league finder five million dollars for not

1203
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: selling it when when when it was supposed to be sold.

1204
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: The league is pretty pretty he pretty pretty adamant about that.

1205
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: Because when teams sail, it ups the value invaluation of

1206
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: the other teams. You know, other teams get a piece

1207
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: of certain things. And I think, you know, there's gonna

1208
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: be a lot There's been a lot of money in Seattle. Uh.

1209
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: And you talk about the companies that have come up

1210
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: in Seattle and the companies that have been a part

1211
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: of this, uh, this great city, the Amazon's, the Microsoft's

1212
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: of the world. I think, you know, those kind of

1213
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: people will be involved and at least have to throw

1214
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: their hat in the ring to try to be a

1215
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: part of this. But it is what it is. It's

1216
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: part of the business football. Paul Allen was a fantastic owner.

1217
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: I think Jody did her best and did a great

1218
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: job of just trying to continue his legacy and continue

1219
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: what he wanted. And I think he'd be very proud

1220
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: of the job she's done, the job John Snyder and

1221
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: the staff have done getting them back to a Super Bowl.

1222
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: And I think, if this, if this is the end

1223
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: of her tenure as a as an owner of the

1224
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, and they go off with a Super Bowl

1225
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: champion championship and a Super Bowl ring and holding the

1226
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: trophy up. I think that's a beautiful ending to a

1227
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: fantastic story of the Allens and their ownership of the

1228
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and the city and the team. Will will

1229
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: know nothing but love, enjoy and appreciation for their time

1230
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: owning the team, and look forward to what's new next

1231
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: in the future.

1232
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: Richard, It's finally that time. I'm gonna ask you a

1233
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: very simple question. Who do you think is gonna win

1234
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? And give me a final score. Give

1235
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: me a final score, and I want some level of like,

1236
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: you know, flow of the game, you know, like who's

1237
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: gonna make an impact? Give me your full little breakdown here.

1238
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: So you're looking for the Richard Sherman podcast picks, That's

1239
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: what you see. Exactly what I'm looking for. Here are

1240
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: the Richard Sherman Podcast Super Bowl picks. All odds and

1241
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: lines come from our partners at hard Rock Bet. We've

1242
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: got the New England Patriots versus the Seattle Seahawks in

1243
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Hard Rock Bett as the Seattle Seahawks

1244
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: as a four and a half point favorite over the

1245
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, and I got the Seahawks winning this game. Mitchell,

1246
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: you want to know how it's gonna go. Seattle Seahawks

1247
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: are gonna win this game by running the football K nine,

1248
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: controlling it early and often. They're gonna drive down the

1249
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: field first drive of the game, set the tone. It's

1250
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a mixture. They're gonna try to double js

1251
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: in and take him out of the game, but you're

1252
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna get a little bit of Barner, some K nine,

1253
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: little bit of Cooper Cup, then a Shaheed pass. Maybe

1254
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: you might get a little sprinkled Bobo in there. Mitchell,

1255
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: just understand, it's gonna be a little bit of everybody.

1256
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: But Sam Darnold is gonna be a magician, a technician,

1257
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: all those things, and they're gonna go down and score.

1258
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 1: New England's gonna get the ball. Ain't gonna feel good,

1259
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: MVP candidate in the backfield, feel really good. The young

1260
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: kid isn't overwhelmed. He's ready for this moment. But is

1261
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: everybody else? Are they overwhelmed by the Seattle Seahawks defensive line.

1262
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: He was sacked fifteen times? They are, Mitchell. They start

1263
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: kind of slow. They start sluggish in a lot of

1264
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: these games. They again start sluggish against this great Seattle

1265
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense. They punt the ball away it goes back

1266
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: and forth. A few punts, punt, a few plays punts punt,

1267
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, not three and outs, but not a lot

1268
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: of scoring going on. You look up at halftime, Mitchell,

1269
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: it's thirteen to three. Seattle Seahawks are in the league.

1270
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: They're feeling really good about this game. They're in control.

1271
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: But New England doesn't go quietly into the night. They

1272
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: come out after half, get the football, drive it down

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Speaker 1: the field, score a touchdown. Now it's ten to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: It's the kind of dogfights you expected in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It could go either way. But then Sam Donald shows

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Speaker 1: you this is a new Sam Donald, and I got

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Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba and that is the way they

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Speaker 1: ride the rest of the second half. JSN has his way,

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Speaker 1: has a day, Clint gets deep in his bag, and

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks walk away with a decisive victory twenty

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Speaker 1: four to ten over the New England Patriots in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Boocket. Great season for the New England Patriots

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Speaker 1: and Mike Rabeles rookie season, a Coach of the Year

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Speaker 1: type season, cementing themselves as a contender for many seasons

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Speaker 1: to come. With a young Super Bowl appearing quarterback, a

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Speaker 1: really good defense, and a really good foundation for the future.

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Speaker 1: But the Seattle Seahawks walking away with this one is.

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Speaker 2: The Richard Sherman podcast super Bowl Picks gonna possibly give

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Speaker 2: an MVP winner here.

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Speaker 1: MVP of this game. You would think, oh Man, Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Smith and Jig. But it's got to be him, right,

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Speaker 1: He's been fantastic. He's probably Offensive Player of the Year. No,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna go to Sam Donald Mentell, Sam Darnald the guy,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the exclamation point on his his

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Speaker 1: resurgent season, his resurrection as a number three pick. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem as surprising anymore because he was the number

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Speaker 1: three pick in a draft. It seems obvious. But this

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Speaker 1: MVP throws him back in the conversation of elite quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And I know everybody out there is like, he had

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Speaker 1: twenty turnovers this season? What about the twenty turnovers? But

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Speaker 1: winning matters in the National Football League, and this man

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Speaker 1: has won a lot in the last two years. You

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Speaker 1: gotta say that two different teams, twenty eight wins. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at some point it gotta have something to do with him.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like he gets an MVP to cap

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Speaker 1: that off, the first MVP of a quarterback in Seattle Seahawks'

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl history.

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Speaker 2: Coast Sandar, I'm gonna join this Seattle Seahawks bandwagon with you, Richard.

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Speaker 2: I love this team the way they're playing right now.

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Speaker 2: They're the hotter team. I know New England's got few losses,

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Speaker 2: but the reality is Seattle's been rolling people and they've

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Speaker 2: been playing I think more challenging opponents along the way.

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Speaker 2: I got Seattle winning this game. I got them covering

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Speaker 2: the spread, and I got K nine running away with

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Speaker 2: the MVP of this game. It sucks that the Seattle

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Speaker 2: Seahawks lost Zach Charbone, but I think K nine is

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Speaker 2: built for this moment right here. He's obviously an unrestricted

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Speaker 2: free agent after the season. He's got a lot to prove.

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Speaker 2: Not only does he have motivation to win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: but he's got motivation he get paid next season two.

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Speaker 2: I think he runs away with two touchdowns in this game.

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Speaker 2: I also like JSN to find the end zone. And finally,

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Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball, I like Hunter

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Speaker 2: Henry Richard. I mean, this guy has been steady for

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 2: that veteran presidence that they need. Richard, I too think

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Speaker 2: that the New England Patriots are going to take a

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Speaker 2: little bit to find their footing. I got the Seattle

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Speaker 2: Seahawks jumping out to a lead. The game inevitably gets tight,

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Speaker 2: but I think that the Seattle Seahawks, I've scored these guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go thirty one to twenty final score again

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Speaker 2: K nine Waltzon out Anna Clara with that MVP trophy

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, Miss I like it

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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 2: Heck yeah, well, Richard, we are gonna be in San

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Speaker 2: Francisco this week. Excited to see some of the fans

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Speaker 2: on the ground. Richard is always a pleasure sitting down

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Speaker 2: with you every weekend and we do this. It's been

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Speaker 2: an awesome time all year. I will let you sign

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Speaker 2: us off, my friend.

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Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate you guys joining us. You could

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Speaker 1: be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us

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Speaker 1: and we surely do appreciate you. Thank you so much. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: getting the notifications. The next time we're on there. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be Super Bowl live, We're gonna have guests, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of people coming by. We don't

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Speaker 1: know who exactly who is gonna be there, maybe some

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Speaker 1: Hall of famers, but we'll see you there. Can't wait