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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Here we come. Welcome to money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: As you know, I'm your host from Sean McDonald. It's

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Speaker 1: time to stop reading other people's success stories. I say

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Speaker 1: that all the time on this show. Stop reading other

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Speaker 1: people's success stories and start writing your own. That's their story.

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Speaker 1: You need to write your own story. Put time into

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Speaker 1: They started feeling they can't do anything. When they they sixties,

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Speaker 1: they want to try to retire. Retire to what because

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Speaker 1: planning or living your dreams. That's why I bring interviews

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Speaker 1: on my show, Money Making Conversations celebrities, ceo s, former athletes, athletes,

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My next guest is a

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Speaker 1: Mari Startermira the six time NBA All Stories currently an

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur get it entrepreneur. Omar is the first and

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Speaker 1: only black kosher winemaker. Amri's owned star Starter Mira Farms,

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Speaker 1: sixty degree view of wellness, which includes not only exercising, food,

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Speaker 1: but financial wellness and community service A. Mari is also

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Speaker 1: currently pursuing his master's degree in business from the University

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Speaker 1: Mary I Am. That's to you, y'all. Do you please

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Speaker 1: work with the Money Making Conversations. Happy to have one

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Speaker 1: more show, Amri out of mind, man, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, sir, I'm feeling good, brother, feeling good. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, Maria, I would tell you something. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Talk about that whole part of your life and then transhing,

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Speaker 1: going to the you know, conference finals, planning, Olympics, all

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Speaker 1: He's he's a remarkable player. Now I played. I'm originally

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's been a wonderful conversation, Tomora. Man. Uh,

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