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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers did not win, and that's a

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Speaker 1: good thing. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calvis,

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Speaker 1: he joins me we dissect Super Bowl fifty eight. The

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Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy will not be coming to the NFC West.

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Speaker 1: It remains in the AFC West. Also, if you're GM

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Speaker 1: Money Austin Fort yes, you're listening to trade offers for

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Speaker 1: pick number four. Should you also be reaching out to

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Speaker 1: one particular team to perhaps bring back a familiar face.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven twenty seven, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Budda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five.

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Speaker 1: He's it again.

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Speaker 3: So far hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, here's Craig Grioloud.

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Speaker 1: So the more things change, the more things stay the same.

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Speaker 1: It was one year ago today, as we broadcast here

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Speaker 1: on Monday February twelve, that the Kansas City Chiefs beat

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Speaker 1: where I should say one Super Bowl fifty seven beating

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, and now we are one day removed

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Speaker 1: from the Kansas City Chiefs in overtime beating the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers, which I endorse. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I've made it very clear I did not want the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers to win. So Monday is a victory Monday,

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Speaker 1: I'm Glenna Relish and the division rival suffering here twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours later.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're sort of in the same boat, are

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Speaker 3: we not. We both grew up in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 3: We've both been here more than two decades, three decades

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Speaker 3: in my case. Yet somehow we get profiled, do we

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Speaker 3: not that we're like these closet forty nine er fans. No, No,

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Speaker 3: and more no, even my own wife didn't believe me.

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Speaker 3: She made it a real sport after the game to

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Speaker 3: needle me about supposedly I lost the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I had zero allegiance and affection for a forty nine

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Speaker 3: There is nothing more that I want to see than

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Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals d throne the forty nine Ers and

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Speaker 3: so look, I didn't have a horse in that race

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Speaker 3: in Super Bowl fifty eight, but I will say it

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Speaker 3: wasn't surprising, was it that in the end what Taylor

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Speaker 3: Swift did to that beer Patrick Mahomes did to the

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers defense in over time, and that's what

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Speaker 1: That was impressive, by the way, both how the game

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Speaker 1: finished and Taylor Swift up on the JumboTron as well.

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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of the hometown, the Bay Area,

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Speaker 1: the hometown newspaper, the San Francisco Chronicle, did you happen

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the headline, Los Vegas ass.

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Speaker 3: As someone who appreciates a good headline. That's well done.

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Speaker 3: That's a double ding as someone who grew up reading

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Speaker 3: the Sporting Green. That is very well done by the

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Speaker 1: Twenty five twenty two, The Chiefs beat the forty nine

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Speaker 1: Is it the Chiefs once again going back to back,

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Speaker 1: third Super Bowl in five years? If the forty nine

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Speaker 1: the decision to take the ball as opposed to playing

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Speaker 1: far as when you look back at Super Bowl fifty am,

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Speaker 1: of that in overtime, But to me, this was long decided.

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Speaker 1: If you're the forty nine ers, you're not lamenting that

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Speaker 1: It could have been a four point game. Instead it

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Speaker 3: Had the punt return turnover that set up the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: I mean, what is going on with that? And then

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Speaker 3: Why you're one of the top rush teams. You have

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Speaker 3: there's a lot more to blame if you're Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: You point to McCaffrey running the ball. He did carry

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Speaker 1: because what are you waiting on? What are you holding back?

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Speaker 1: there were mistakes made, and if you're a forty nine

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Speaker 1: in that atmosphere, big stage, the Chiefs won that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers opened the door, and the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: And in the moment their best players made the biggest place.

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Speaker 3: stop playing like a Jabbroni man. That was for you

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Speaker 1: Way, the seth rawlins WW Champion has invited Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rising Tide lists all sporting entities. Yes, that is

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Speaker 3: After that, you know, zero first half. Eight Props to

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Speaker 3: most underrated part of that team. For a look, and

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Speaker 3: Is that inexplicable?

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Speaker 3: In fact, add that to the list of gas by

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers that I what are you doing

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Speaker 3: Chris Jones Because there were two options dbo or Juan

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Speaker 1: Officially, Jones credited with two quarterback hits. But what does

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones, that is a big missing piece at the

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Speaker 1: And Aaron Donald. Yes, Chris Jones is a free agent.

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Speaker 1: Yes he's going to cost a lot of money. But

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Speaker 1: if you're the Kansas City Chiefs, what you have right now,

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Speaker 1: why would you even consider letting Chris Jones out the door?

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Speaker 1: I do think Jones is that type of player who

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Speaker 3: Which is interesting because in all the press covers leading

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Speaker 3: enough performance in Super Bowl fifty eight to make them

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Speaker 3: curious to see what they decide. There are a number

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Speaker 3: be potential free agents, and I think we both agree

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Speaker 3: if there's one spot where the Cardinals are going maybe

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Speaker 3: figure it's along that defensive front. That's where you're lacking

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Speaker 1: What the Cardinals need was on full display and the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and it's been on display this entire postseason run.

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Speaker 1: It starts and ends at the line of scrimmage. You

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Don't want to steal you your line, Paul.

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Speaker 1: But it's about that thing. It's about one of two things.

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Speaker 1: I don't think brock Party was jitterish at all. It's

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Speaker 1: just and people said it going into the game, don't

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Speaker 1: bet against Patrick Mahomes. It's the exact same thing people

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Speaker 1: just a little bit. I mean, the Chiefs could do

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Speaker 1: Chiefs in the first half, only had a seven point lead, Paul.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs were two of six in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: have a chance to end the game by going for

436
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Speaker 3: a two point conversion. So most college football coaches, because

437
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Speaker 3: this is pretty much the identical format and presents the

438
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Speaker 3: same decision as a head coach in college football, it's

439
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Speaker 3: almost unanimous. If you win the toss, you defer you're

440
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Speaker 3: the second team because you want to know what you need.

441
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Speaker 3: And Shanahan went against the grain to that one. And yes,

442
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Speaker 3: there are a lot of doubters and a lot of critics.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, yeah, you understand why that line

444
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Speaker 1: of thinking, But at the same time, you just played

445
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Speaker 1: sixty minutes. You're about to go into your seventy fifth minute,

446
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Speaker 1: if there is a second overtime and sudden death at

447
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Speaker 1: that point, if you're the Chiefs, if you're any team

448
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Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers had scored a touchdown to

449
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Speaker 1: your point, okay, you need a touchdown to tie. Any

450
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Speaker 1: head coach in that moment your team had just played

451
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Speaker 1: seventy plus minutes, I'm gonna say you're gonna have for

452
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Speaker 1: two one hundred percent of the time to end the game.

453
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Speaker 1: Make sure you have the ball in your hands, in

454
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Speaker 1: your control. You want your franchise quarterback to win or

455
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Speaker 1: lose on that two point play. Forget sudden death. I

456
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Speaker 1: don't know if we'll ever see a sudden death because

457
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Speaker 1: in order to get there, you're playing a lot of football,

458
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Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. And I understand, yeah, you want

459
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Speaker 1: that sudden death, you want to be on offense. I

460
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Speaker 1: just don't think any team is going to get to

461
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Speaker 1: that point if we ever get to this point ever

462
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Speaker 1: again in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So let's go back to the third and four at

464
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Speaker 3: the Kansas City nine where Chris Jones was unblocked and

465
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Speaker 3: came in and rushed the throw of Brock Purty. So, now,

466
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Speaker 3: if you're Kyle Shanahan, you're that entire forty nine Ers

467
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Speaker 3: offense you have to live with. Wait a minute, what

468
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Speaker 3: if it was fourth and four at the nine and

469
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Speaker 3: we were the second to receive the ball. What play

470
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Speaker 3: is still on the laminated play sheet that we never

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Speaker 3: got to. What play would we have run fourth and

472
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Speaker 3: four at the nine netted us a first down or

473
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Speaker 3: a touchdown? When we have Christian McCaffrey, Deebo, Samuel George Kittle,

474
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Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings who was red hot in that game, Brandon Ay,

475
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Speaker 3: think of all the weapons, all the All pros and

476
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowlers who didn't get a chance to make a

477
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Speaker 3: play that could have resulted. Instead you had you opted

478
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Speaker 3: to go for the field goal because you needed the

479
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Speaker 3: sure points of that at that stage, because you opted

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Speaker 3: to take the ball first. So to me, if I'm

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Speaker 3: Kyle Shannan and I'm the forty nine Ers, that's the

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Speaker 3: lament that you have to live with.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: When again, twenty five twenty two in overtime, I almost

485
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Speaker 1: went to a double overtime. But yeah, Super Bowl fifty

486
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Speaker 1: eight is in the books, was not in Las Vegas,

487
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Speaker 1: but by all accounts, I think they'll be back in

488
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas sooner rather than later. Oh yeah, Commissioner Roger

489
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Speaker 1: Goodell Monday morning said, yeah, we will be back, just

490
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Speaker 1: a matter of when, not if. But if you're talking

491
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Speaker 1: about a rotation, now, everyone loves New Orleans, everyone loves Florida,

492
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Speaker 1: whether that's in Miami or Tampa Bay. And you're looking

493
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Speaker 1: for that west coast spot, well you've got Los Angeles,

494
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Speaker 1: you've got Phoenix, and now you've got Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there was a bigger winner the

496
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Speaker 3: entire week than the Sphere, right, I mean, honestly, how

497
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Speaker 3: much advertising money did that operation net? Are you kidding me?

498
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Speaker 3: And there were a lot of oohs and us it

499
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Speaker 3: was really cool, right, everything they did obviously with the

500
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Speaker 3: technology on the outside, everything you saw on the inside.

501
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Speaker 3: I don't know how tough it is to get a ticket,

502
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Speaker 3: but it's probably never been tougher here on the Monday

503
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Speaker 3: morning after Super Bowl and all that coverage, and you

504
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Speaker 3: saw some of the clips of YouTube playing and what

505
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Speaker 3: that whole scene and setting looked like inside the sphere.

506
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Speaker 3: So I'm not sure anything one as big as as

507
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Speaker 3: a spear. I'd say Kansas City Chiefs were number two.

508
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Speaker 3: But yes, the economic impact in Vegas must have been remarkable.

509
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Speaker 3: And there were other ancillary events that went on during

510
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Speaker 3: the entire week as everybody glombed on and trying to

511
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Speaker 3: glean something off the Super Bowl. But you know, hey,

512
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Speaker 3: they're known for doing big events really well, and there's

513
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Speaker 3: no doubt Vegas is officially in the rotation.

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Speaker 1: You spend seven million dollars for a thirty second ad spot.

515
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Speaker 1: James Dolan, who orchestrated, who put together the money to

516
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Speaker 1: build that sphere. They didn't pay any money for commercial airtime.

517
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Speaker 1: But how many times did you see it during the week?

518
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Speaker 1: B roll cutaways?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all the social media clips people with their

520
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Speaker 3: cell phone video out their hotel rooms.

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Speaker 1: Really cool.

522
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Speaker 3: And by the way, okay, real quick. On the commercials

523
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Speaker 3: during the Super Bowl, eh, underwhelming certainly at times the

524
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Speaker 3: dunk Kings, the Dunk Have Me come on with Ben

525
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Speaker 3: Affleck and Matt Damon and j Lo and Tom Brady

526
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Speaker 3: and all that. The couch Potato Farm to me was

527
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Speaker 3: a good concept, pretty good commercial. But I liked the concept.

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Speaker 3: And then actually I thought the NFL International Pathway Player

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Speaker 3: spot was moving. I thought it resonated ome ocu U

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Speaker 3: maan Era, who heads that up and that was set

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Speaker 3: in Africa with all the players from around the globe

532
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Speaker 3: trying to crack the NFL. I thought that was just

533
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Speaker 3: a really well done spot featuring on NFL stars in

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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 1: Just needed more Bernard psychopits.

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Speaker 3: That's right, where's the psycho thing? By the way, what

537
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Speaker 3: I didn't need is MORONLD Schwarzenegger. I'm sorry, I just

538
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: don't need any more of that in my life. And

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Speaker 3: even after seeing three or four spots and how many

540
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Speaker 3: millions in ad spend, I still have no clue what

541
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Speaker 3: homes dot com does. So I'm not sure that was

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Speaker 3: an effective ad campaign. Or maybe I'm just Paul the

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Speaker 3: idiot face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then again, if you can't figure it out in

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds, then you didn't spend your money wisely, or

547
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Speaker 1: you just wasted a whole bunch of money in a

548
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Speaker 1: bunch of time to kind of figure out what you're

549
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Speaker 1: pushing there as far as your product is concerned. One

550
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Speaker 1: other note, as far as the Super Bowl, and that's

551
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Speaker 1: what happened before the game kicked off. All your NFL insiders,

552
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: they always save their nuggets for those pregame shows. They

553
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Speaker 1: kind of bottle it up and sometimes stuff gets leaked

554
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Speaker 1: out during the course of the week. But I did

555
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Speaker 1: find interesting and many Cardinal fans did as well. It

556
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Speaker 1: was Ian Rapaport NFL Network the first that I saw

557
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Speaker 1: to report, and I think some others continued with their

558
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Speaker 1: own sourcing. But according to Rapaport, the Eagles have given

559
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Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick permission to seek a trade former Arizona Cardinal

560
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Speaker 1: thirteenth overall pick in twenty seventeen. He's got one year

561
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Speaker 1: left on a three year contract. He's owed sixteen million dollars,

562
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Speaker 1: so he'd be acquiring that, and then he wants a

563
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Speaker 1: pay day. He's twenty nine, be thirty in September. I

564
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Speaker 1: got to say, there's a lot of Cardinal fans, Paul,

565
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Speaker 1: and considering the position that Reddick plays and excels at now,

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Speaker 1: it's not the same position that he played when he

567
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Speaker 1: was drafted here. It's the position that he played his

568
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Speaker 1: final year with the Cardinals. But edge rusher, it's a

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Speaker 1: need and if you're a GM on theosen fort, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would pick up the phone despite what might be

571
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Speaker 1: between the two teams, and something that the Cardinals and

572
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Speaker 1: Eagles have already had to work compensation out for a

573
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Speaker 1: year ago with the head coaching position. But it would

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Speaker 1: be an intriguing and certainly a great story if maybe

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Speaker 1: Reddick is ending his career where it began.

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Speaker 3: You know, I totally forgot about that. You're right the

577
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Speaker 3: hurdle between the two front offices after what was announced

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Speaker 3: on the morning a draft air basically twenty minutes before

579
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Speaker 3: the draft actually commenced. So you're right, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 3: Add that to the list of challenges. One you'd have

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Speaker 3: to trade significant assets too. You'd have to come up

582
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Speaker 3: with a major payday for a twenty nine year old.

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Speaker 3: I get it. He probably has a great relationship with

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon. I remember twenty twenty three Sea twenty twenty

585
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Speaker 3: two season and the Eagles were flying high, and remember

586
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Speaker 3: they led the NFL in sacks and it wasn't even close.

587
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: That team that went to the Super Bowl had seventy sacks.

588
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Speaker 3: The next closest team had fifty five. And I forget

589
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Speaker 3: where a son Reddick was fifteen, sixteen, maybe seventeen that season.

590
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Speaker 3: But I remember a comment from Jonathan Gann really in

591
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Speaker 3: keeping with JG now that we know him much better,

592
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Speaker 3: where he said heck, if I didn't drop him off

593
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Speaker 3: into coverage so much. He'd have thirty sacks, was the

594
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Speaker 3: comment from Jonathan Gannon. And I still remember that quote

595
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Speaker 3: before we even really knew who he was. And Okay,

596
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Speaker 3: yes he would fit well in the system. Yes he

597
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Speaker 3: has a good relationship. But I don't see the combination

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Speaker 3: of factors, the assets being traded, the contract being paid,

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Speaker 3: and then the relationships perhaps being mended to be able

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Speaker 3: to allow that to happen. I just don't see that

601
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Speaker 3: as good a fit as a son Reddick. What in

602
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Speaker 3: as good a person as a son Reddick is? You

603
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: know this Craig for everything that went sideways with him

604
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Speaker 3: being the thirteenth pick overall, especially those first two three

605
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Speaker 3: years where he's out a position. He met the media

606
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Speaker 3: every single time, stood in front of his locker fielded

607
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Speaker 3: all the questions. He was thoughtful, he was honest, he

608
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Speaker 3: was intelligent. I'd love to have a Sonreddick back in

609
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Speaker 3: the Cardinals locker room. I just don't view it as

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Speaker 3: very realistic.

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Speaker 1: Probably not, but it is worth at least a phone

612
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Speaker 1: call of playing general manager. Here on Cardinals cover two

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Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, because yes,

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Speaker 1: the person. You can't ask for a better person in

615
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Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick. The player double digit sacks in each of

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Speaker 1: the last four seasons. So he's not slowing down, despite

617
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Speaker 1: he'll be thirty when the season begins, or he turns

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Speaker 1: thirty in September. But I go back to the last

619
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Speaker 1: time we had a need at the edge rusher and

620
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals went out and acquired somebody. Granted, Chandler Jones

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Speaker 1: was twenty six at the time, and that did cost

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Speaker 1: a first round pick, excuse me, a second round pick

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Speaker 1: plus Jonathan Cooper. And then the Cardinals eventually did pay

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones and he lived up to that contract. Say

625
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: what you want about Chandler nowadays, but it does bring

626
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: back those memories because this team desperately needs an edge rush.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, that's a big difference. I mean,

628
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Speaker 3: that's the prime the difference between twenty six and twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: I mean that that is huge. Think of how much

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Speaker 3: differ friend Chandler Jones was at twenty nine thirty than

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Speaker 3: he was at twenty five twenty six. Think of the

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Speaker 3: bearers who are willing to trade the assets high second

633
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: round pick and pay the big contract for Montes Sweat,

634
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Speaker 3: But again he's coming off his rookie deal. He's twenty five,

635
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Speaker 3: twenty six years of age. He's just entering his prime

636
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Speaker 3: years in so for Hassan Reddick at age twenty nine,

637
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Speaker 3: it's a gamble. Some guys are really productive at twenty nine,

638
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: thirty thirty one, and others fall off a cliff. So

639
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: you'd have to really know the player very well and

640
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: know exactly what you're getting before you make that sort

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Speaker 3: of investment.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think there's a team outside the Cardinals

643
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: that know Hassan Reddick better considering Jonathan Gannon, Nick Rowlis.

644
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: That's why it makes a ton of sense. But to

645
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Speaker 1: your point, the draft or the capital that you would

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Speaker 1: have to give up the compensation and then write a

647
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Speaker 1: check and and oh, by the way, how are things

648
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Speaker 1: between the two teams as far as front offices are

649
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: concerned ownership level? Because us of the back and forth

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Speaker 1: that still exists to this day, I believe that many

651
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Speaker 1: people blame Jonathan Gannon for what happened a year ago

652
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Speaker 1: today here in Arizona at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Fifty seven, I think the more likely scenario is you

654
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Speaker 3: get even more picks in this year's draft, you already

655
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Speaker 3: have eleven. But oh, I don't know. Daniel Jeremiah tweeting

656
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Speaker 3: out on Super Bowl Sunday or maybe it was Saturday

657
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: before the Super Bowl quote, I believe we'll see four

658
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: to five teams looking to moving up for a quarterback

659
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Speaker 3: over the next few months. Teams are excited about next

660
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: year's QB class. We are hearing this time and time again.

661
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Speaker 3: I was carrying Wolf on his show late last week, Craig,

662
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Speaker 3: and there was Matt Miller ESPN NFL Draft analyst joining

663
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Speaker 3: us from Mobile in the Senior Bowl, and he said

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Speaker 3: the same thing. The two twenty twenty five QB draft

665
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Speaker 3: class is underwhelming at best. So if there isn't enough

666
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: desperation and need for a quarterback in this year's draft,

667
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: just base done normal years. It's enhanced by the fact

668
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Speaker 3: that next year the best quarterback might have the first

669
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: name Jack and the last name Squat. So, okay, what

670
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Speaker 3: does that mean for the Cardinals. You're sitting at number

671
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: four once again, QB rising that let there be four

672
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks and or let MARVENN. Harrison Junior go in the

673
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: first three picks. That's fine with me. That means the

674
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Speaker 3: quarterback falls to four, and I do believe the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: at that point would cash it in.

676
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Speaker 1: And I believe, as I follow religiously at Paul Calvic,

677
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Speaker 1: that you might have tweeted something or posted something earlier

678
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Speaker 1: on Monday because there was another mock draft NFL Networks

679
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Speaker 1: Chad Riader that the Cardinals make a trade with the

680
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos with that fourth overall pick and the Broncos

681
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: right now with pick number twelve. But just look at

682
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Speaker 1: the teams behind the Cardinals. The Giants at number six,

683
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Speaker 1: is Daniel Jones the answer, the Titans at number seven, well, levis,

684
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Speaker 1: the Falcons at number eight, Desmond Ritter No. And there's

685
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Speaker 1: the Vikings, Broncos and Raiders at eleven, twelve, and thirteen.

686
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Speaker 1: There are enough teams behind the Cardinals. I don't know

687
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Speaker 1: if you want to drop too far down from thirteen

688
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: that's middle of the round, but there are enough teams

689
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Speaker 1: that need a quarterback. And if what Jeremiah posted is true,

690
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Speaker 1: that next year's draft class is not nearly as good,

691
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Speaker 1: and there are players I e. At JJ McCarthy bow

692
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Speaker 1: Knicks that in next year's class are the number one quarterback,

693
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Speaker 1: and you can get them this year, then yeah, the

694
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Speaker 1: quarterback position gets elevated and you do have to make

695
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Speaker 1: that decision to move up in the draft. And the

696
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: Cardinals they have their quarterback. Now they have a lot

697
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Speaker 1: of needs. More draft picks gives them more opportunities to

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Speaker 1: fill those needs.

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Speaker 3: Michael Pennick showed really well at the Senior Bowl bow Knicks.

700
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 3: He helped himself, not as much as Michael Pennix. JJ

701
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Speaker 3: McCarthy is getting talked up like you wouldn't believe by

702
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Speaker 3: mel kiper Junior. I heard him over the weekend and

703
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: talking about JJ McCarthy. So, okay, let's see what happens

704
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: to the combine in two weeks. Let's see what happens

705
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: on these pro days. It's happened before Anthony Richardson, Zach Wilson,

706
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Speaker 3: Trey Lance. Here comes that quarterback hasn't played a single

707
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: rep in a real game. But based on the workouts

708
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Speaker 3: and some of the tests and the meetings with teams,

709
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, these quarterback hungry teams, all right,

710
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Speaker 3: and let's just say they make it worth the Cardinals

711
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Speaker 3: while and they falled eight, heck, they even go eleven,

712
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: twelve or thirteen. Well, This draft is really deep in tackles.

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Speaker 3: Even if you go all the way to thirteen, I'm

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Speaker 3: confident you can get a franchise tackle at that point.

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Speaker 3: You can maybe even get that receiver. At that point

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Speaker 3: a moleak neighbors Aroma Dunza. If they fall boom, you're

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00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: all over that At thirteen. Worst case scenario, I think

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Speaker 3: that's as far down as you go if you're Moni

719
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Speaker 3: assin Ford. But if you pick up a first round

720
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Speaker 3: pick next year, it's the same logic and rationale you

721
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: used in the Houston Texans trade. The ninety percent of

722
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: the time would work. You go with a losing team

723
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Speaker 3: and a rookie quarterback, and you take their first round

724
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Speaker 3: pick the next year. It just so stinking happens that c. J.

725
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Speaker 3: Stroud had an unbelievable historic year for a rookie quarterback.

726
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 3: Nobody saw that coming. The Euston Texans had the worst

727
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 3: winning percentage of any NFL team between twenty twenty twenty

728
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Speaker 3: one and twenty two. They had a rookie head coach

729
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: and a rookie quarterback, and somehow they went from worse

730
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Speaker 3: to first. Okay, but you know what, what are the

731
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Speaker 3: odds that happens to two times in a row. So

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Speaker 3: maybe you orchestrate a similar type of deal predicated on

733
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Speaker 3: expecting those sort of results that you typically get from

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Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback and a losing team, and then all

735
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, especially if it's the Raiders and you

736
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Speaker 3: got a rookie head coach Antonio Pierce going in that

737
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Speaker 3: division with Andy Reid and Sean Payton and now Jim

738
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Speaker 3: Harbaugh and those quarterbacks in that division, I would trade

739
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Speaker 3: with the Raiders in a hot second.

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Speaker 1: Lightning won't strike twice. To your point about the Houston Texas,

741
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: because that's one in a million shot that happens again.

742
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: So if you're a general manager, don't be scared about that.

743
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: You just have to figure out. Okay, if at number

744
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: four and Marvin Harrison Junior is still on the board,

745
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: that's where you have to pony up and say, all right,

746
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: am I leaving a Hall of Fame, potential Hall of

747
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: Fame player who's gonna get me twelve thirteen, fourteen hundred

748
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: yards on a consistent base eight nine, ten touchdowns and

749
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: really elevates this offense? Am I leaving that on the

750
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: board for your scenario? But yes, you get the second

751
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: or third best wide receiver that any other year is

752
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: a number one wide out, and maybe the second or

753
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: third fourth best tackle because the tackle position. It's not

754
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: so much the individual, but how do they mess together

755
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: as a unit. And the Cardinals offensive line, despite not

756
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: having a bunch of all pros, messed very well this

757
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: past season.

758
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Speaker 2: No question.

759
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: And for those of us who have been around for

760
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: a few decades, we remember giving up on Terrell Suggs

761
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: and going down later in the first round, and in

762
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: it with Brian Johnson and Calvin Pace. So but once again,

763
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: it's about the players you select and the faith you

764
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: have in your war room to find the best players.

765
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: Giving up on Terrell Suggs, yes he was All Famer

766
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: and NFL Defensive Player of the Year on his resume,

767
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: that was costly. But if you would have found two

768
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: above average starters and or Pro Bowl caliber players with

769
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: those other two picks later in the first round, then

770
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: you know what, it would have been an equitable trade.

771
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: It's the fact you missed on those picks, wasn't necessarily

772
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 3: the picks themselves. So all right, based on the first

773
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: year returns and whom Monti as to foreign Company are

774
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 3: able to find in the twenty twenty three draft. I

775
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: think everybody's bullsh on what's coming in twenty twenty four.

776
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: But to your point, if you deem Marvin Harrison Junior

777
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: the next Larry Fitzgerald first ballot Hall of Famer, then

778
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: you can't go wrong. You stick and stay at number

779
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: four turn in the card and I don't nobody would

780
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: complain about that, including yours truly. I'm just saying I

781
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 3: expect there to be a lot of desperation by these

782
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: quarterback hungry teams, and I think there's a real good

783
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 3: chance they make the Cardinals an offer they can't refuse.

784
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: And it just might have to be that offer. It

785
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: just can't be a swap of picks in a future

786
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: first round. It's gotta be you have to really entice,

787
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe even add more picks, maybe even add a player

788
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: like the Panthers did to the Bears, giving Dj Moore

789
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: to Chicago, something like that. A position of needs, so

790
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: you get draft capital plus you get a wide receiver,

791
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: a cornerback of what some position that you could say,

792
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: all right, that's a plugin starter right away, the known

793
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: versus the unknown.

794
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: I have a good buddy of mine used to host

795
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: a radio show with Vick Lombardi. He's a big deal

796
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: in Denver. You can follo him on Twitter. And I

797
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: text him, hey, well, you know you guys want that

798
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: quarterback and number four, we'll take your first rounder and

799
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: Patrick Surtan. And he told me to get my car

800
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: keys to somebody behind the wheels. So I guess he

801
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: deemed that a non starter. I'm not exactly sure, but

802
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm trying here. I'm trying to sort of, you know,

803
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: broker a deal. To your point, Craig, you get a

804
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: frontline pro bolt at caliber starter at a position to need,

805
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: plus Denver's first round pick. That would be the starting point.

806
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I think. I think that's what you have to do

807
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: if you really want to move up, especially if you're

808
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: moving up from number twelve.

809
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: Hello, Denver, look what you stinking gave up for Russell Wilson.

810
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a deal based on what George

811
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: Peyton gave up for Russell Wilson and made himself the

812
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: two time ragning Seattle Seahawks MVP, the general manager of

813
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: the Broncos. That trade was sole lopsided.

814
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: By the way before we close up shop, and I

815
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: hesitate here because I don't want to upset a lot

816
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: of the Bird gang, but I'm gonna ask this question anyway.

817
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: Row halftime Usher's performance. Hmm, okay, I'm gonna out myself here.

818
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: I only recognized one song of his, and I am

819
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: kind of embarrassed to admit that. I mean, the performance

820
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: was outstanding, looked great, came off well, but I just

821
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, to me, it lacked a little. And again,

822
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: I know that's a hot take or it's not a

823
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: very popular take, but that's just for I'm sitting here

824
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Speaker 1: on a Monday.

825
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: So I was at the lunch table about an hour

826
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: ago and a colleague of ours in the Cardinals media department, Chay,

827
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 3: and I didn't realize what an absolute expert he is

828
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Speaker 3: on all time Super Bowl halftime shows. And I said,

829
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Speaker 3: what was the year that Bruno Mars and boom? He's

830
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: like twenty fifteen or he nailed it right away, And

831
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: he started telling he agreed with my Pauli power Pole

832
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Speaker 3: that to me, the best one in recent memory was

833
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: indeed Bruno Mars, although he then added, okay, but if

834
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Speaker 3: you want to go back one more year and include

835
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Speaker 3: that in the year before Beyonce set the gold standard

836
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Speaker 3: apparently based on people who are fishing autos of these

837
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Speaker 3: halftime shows, so better than I don't know, I don't know, yeah,

838
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: and I guess longtime Prince fans. It was good. It

839
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: was pretty pretty good, but not great apparently. I remember

840
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: it as being outstanding.

841
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: Press rained during Purple rain, That's right.

842
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: What I liked last year at State From Stadium was

843
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: just all those platforms. Yeah, and I mean that was ridiculous.

844
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: So whether you're a fan or out of the of

845
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: Rihanna's music, I thought this, the way they choreographed the

846
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: whole thing was amazing to be up there, and so

847
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: all right, Now, look I'm still partial to Super Bowl

848
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: forty three in Tampa, where I was wrestling with all

849
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: the photographers for a front row seat to see the Boss.

850
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: All right, but that was back in the day when

851
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: it was very.

852
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: Now super Bowl forty three you hosted halftime, correct, So

853
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: some of it some event with just two loud years

854
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: like guys, I can't hear, and then just throw away

855
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: the headset like I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy this.

856
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: I did part of it, but it was so long

857
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: that happened we had to throw it back to the

858
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: studio for quite a bit, but I think I was

859
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: on for a little bit. I don't quite remember because

860
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: I was so mesmerized by watching Bruce Springsteen. I do

861
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: remember later Bertrand Barry telling us in the Big Red

862
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: Rage that the super Bowl halftime was so long he

863
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 3: ate a full meal. He got out of his uniform,

864
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: ate a full meal, and then redressed. I think he

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Speaker 3: might actually shower too. B Train is like, is like

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Speaker 3: ninety nine percentile in cleanliness. So there was something like

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Speaker 3: he told this story, that's how long the super Bowl

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Speaker 3: halftime was. But see, I lost all credibility at Cossack

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Speaker 3: HELVICI when they showed a shot of the suite with

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift and I'm like, all right, so who are

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Speaker 3: the other people with her? And then I was informed

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Speaker 3: by the wife and daughter that one of the people

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Speaker 3: in there, the luminaries of celebrities, was Ice Spice. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I said, wait, what one of the original Spice girls.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I said that cam Be. She looks way

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Speaker 4: too young to be. I started doing the math of

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Speaker 4: mi d I'm like, you can't be what I'm like.

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Speaker 4: And then I was informed by the wife and daughter.

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Speaker 4: Dad stopped talking, and that might be a good cue.

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Speaker 4: Here with you, Craig, Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: I'm don't feel too bad about my take now wows tough?

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Speaker 3: I got a whole season to regain any sort of

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Speaker 3: pop culture credibility in my own household. Tough.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's jump on that, Paul right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let you go and familiarize yourself. Get on Wikipedia,

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Speaker 1: do it. We need to do some research.

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Speaker 3: I gotta try and win the off season, Craig in

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Speaker 3: more ways than one.

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Speaker 1: On that note, we'll put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by a Hyundai, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, thankfully for Paul's sake, maybe my

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Speaker 1: own as well. Special thanks to everyone involved behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Joe Mamandra, our associate producer Coddy Fincher.

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Speaker 1: For Paul Calvic, I'm Craig real lou. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you next time you're on Cardinals cover too mean spices

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Speaker 1: in trademarked. How could she go with ice spice and

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Speaker 1: not get sued? I don't get it.