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Speaker 1: Second date, up date.

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Speaker 2: A lot of so called dating experts will tell you

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Speaker 3: Why did you use dating experts and quotes that is true?

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Speaker 2: Jo, Well, I'm telling like the same TV shows, same

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Speaker 2: sports teams, Yes, the same mom.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I really trust that line of thinking.

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Speaker 2: But one of one of our listeners says he was

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Speaker 2: drawn to a woman based on what they both hate,

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Speaker 2: and that actually sounds healthier to me.

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Speaker 3: That can't bring you together.

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Speaker 2: So I don't say this often, but let's spread the

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Speaker 2: hate today and talk to Ethan learn about his date.

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Speaker 1: Ethan, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Slogan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, since we're spreading hate everyone, let's go around the

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Speaker 2: room and say who do you hate? Brook Now, before

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Speaker 2: we do that, I like that idea for that exercise. First,

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Speaker 2: let's talk to Ethan about what he hates and how

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Speaker 2: that bonded him to the girl that what's her name?

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Speaker 1: By the way you go first?

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Speaker 4: Well, her name is Aria, and she got me laughing

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Speaker 4: over her first line, which was her biggest pet peeve

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Speaker 4: is people who microwave fish. It worked.

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Speaker 3: I stop bringing in Salmon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and where did she say that line?

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Speaker 4: Oh it's on her dating profile.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you saw that and you were like, this

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Speaker 5: It's probably a good opening, right, like for you to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's actually a guy that does that at

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Speaker 5: Talking about bad smelling food hot fish.

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Speaker 2: Every office has at least one of those people. But

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Speaker 4: It was an opening to see her personality and man,

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Speaker 3: Also, starts are.

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Speaker 1: So important for everybody. Some people all bond over how

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Speaker 1: much they hate humor. Yeah, did you tell joke? But okay,

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Speaker 1: you guys end up meeting up for a date.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I wanted to pick a place like a restaurant

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Speaker 3: What do you bro I don't know. I get worried

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Speaker 2: I think the positive though, is quiet and you get

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Speaker 3: You can actually talk. The whole staff was probably listening to.

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Speaker 3: Everyone said, it's quiet.

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Speaker 5: I love sitting next to a first day and okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's nice that you got exactly what you wanted.

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Speaker 1: How did it go?

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Speaker 4: It went well. And I'm also not a fan of cameras.

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Speaker 3: Camera.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we have a lot of things that you hate.

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Speaker 1: So far you want.

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Speaker 3: See I'm taking some sort of FBI watch list too.

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Speaker 2: So far, you hate people that microwave their fish, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the cameras deal? Explain that?

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Speaker 4: Well, security cams like businesses and restaurants, they have so many.

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Speaker 1: I feel you though.

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Speaker 2: The people at the radio station use my image on

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Speaker 5: Security camera, he's talking about the promotional pictures everywhere, the.

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Speaker 1: Cars, it's on the fly. Give me some space. I'd

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Speaker 3: Tell her the thing about how you hated security cameras.

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Speaker 4: No, I like to scout that out ahead of time.

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Speaker 3: You go and see before you go.

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Speaker 1: He's thorough, Brooke.

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Speaker 2: He does his research and decides if he likes the

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Imagine put security cameras to look at their security cameras.

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Speaker 3: So were you able to bond over more stuff you hate?

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Speaker 4: Dinner, we talked about traveling in hobbies like I like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't you hate walking running only wants.

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Speaker 4: I'm really a positive person. I don't know why. There's

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, And we kind of really leaned into

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How did the date end?

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Speaker 4: Basically after the meal, we left and I asked her,

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Speaker 5: Okay, getting your figure and you're reading the room right,

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Speaker 5: I think it could have been one of those moments

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Speaker 3: And then the Devil's like, do it, it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Ethan, you think she was being

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure. And it's been like eight or

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Speaker 4: nine days since then, and it feels like things have shifted.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know why, and I need your help

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Speaker 5: Right, What did you do with that thirty seconds to

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What were you talking about? You're like, hey, I

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Speaker 3: He doesn't like the security.

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Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, I have no security cameras.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no care, Okay, good, that's good. That's positive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, let's find out what made her change her

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Speaker 1: We'll get you your second date update with Aria.

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Speaker 2: Right after this second date update, we're talking to Ethan,

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Speaker 2: who we learned is not a fan of microwaved fish,

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Speaker 2: large crowds, or security cameras together well, but good news

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Speaker 2: that he went out with the other night, and it

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Speaker 4: He was fine with that.

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Speaker 3: He just wasn't fine with her not calling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was eight days ago.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know what she does for work that

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Speaker 2: But it seems like something is up right a streamer

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Speaker 1: She could do one of those marathon streams. Or she

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Speaker 1: doesn't get off until she has a certain.

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Speaker 2: Amount that seems highly likely, yes, Or she works on

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Speaker 2: a submarine out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

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Speaker 1: There's just no.

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Speaker 2: Service out there. Yeah, an astronaut of some sort. We

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Speaker 5: I know, I know a biologist who has to track

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're close on any of these guesses,

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Speaker 4: That's a good question. I think I think he could be.

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Speaker 1: You never found out what she did?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're saying during an entire dinner date

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Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. I think she's in marketing, okay.

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Speaker 2: Marketing submarines and marketing rocket ships, so that's totally different.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Can I just add real quick because you sound like

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Speaker 5: and like I mean, I think it means.

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Speaker 1: A lot translation if this doesn't work out, Brooke, is

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Speaker 1: interesting that I appreciate that specimen.

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Speaker 2: All hates call this lady and see if she's willing

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Thank you, we got hold on. Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: we're looking to speak with Aria.

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Speaker 4: That's me.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to talk to a friendly person on this

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Speaker 2: We're a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey. In

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Speaker 2: the morning, I don't know if you've heard of us.

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, don't worry, it's not. We're not doing any

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Speaker 6: What's going on here, guys.

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Speaker 2: We're doing this thing on our show called the Second

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Speaker 2: Date Update, and we're trying to help out one of

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Speaker 2: our listeners that you met up with about a week ago.

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Speaker 2: A little bit more than that. His name's Ethan.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, wait, actually, yes, yeah, are you sure?

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Speaker 3: Are we sure? We're absolutely sure. We talked to Ethan.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, I'm very very surprised by that, really.

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's a hard guy to read, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Why are you surprised?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So we just he seems like a very private person.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we even actually applauded him for doing it.

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Speaker 5: He's going out on a limb just because he likes

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Speaker 6: That's very very sweet.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like he maybe is a sweet guy.

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Speaker 2: He's also a confused guy right now, because it's been

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Speaker 2: eight days since you hung out, and he doesn't really

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Speaker 1: Met up again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we were even debating in studio whether or

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Speaker 6: No, I really did. I did. Okay, Okay, it was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, both things can be true. We didn't think about

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Speaker 1: Wait, she actually has a job. That's the problem. So

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Speaker 6: You're not going to believe me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, it's unbelievable what you're about to say.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I told a couple of my best friends

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Speaker 6: this and they couldn't believe it. I kind of couldn't

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Speaker 1: What happened, interested, Yeah, you got to tell us.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So we just had dinner. We're walking and I thought, okay,

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Speaker 4: Wall.

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Speaker 5: You can't laugh through it because I can't always understand

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Speaker 6: Sorry, I'm I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: I don't like laughing on the.

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Speaker 4: Moment. What happened?

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Speaker 6: He said, If we do that, you're going to have

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Speaker 3: Wait what?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Wait?

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Speaker 3: No, he was joking, No, only celebrities.

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Speaker 1: Did you said NDA? Like a non disclosure agreement?

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Speaker 6: What I thought? He said for her once because this

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Speaker 3: NBA, like the Basketball Association.

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Speaker 6: No. I couldn't possibly care less. But I started to

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Speaker 6: be like, oh, I don't really like sports. He's like no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: Did he explain why? Why did he want an n D?

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Speaker 6: A kind of so, I'm like, I feel so stupid

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Speaker 2: And that didn't make you want to sign the NDA

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Speaker 5: Why is he going to bring his dad up and

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Speaker 4: I don't like the way this has gone.

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Speaker 4: Hey, alright, we.

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Speaker 2: We didn't mention to you before, but that is Ethan

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Speaker 2: to you and heard everything.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I didn't know that bothered you. And I

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Speaker 4: think I told you. I don't go on dates a lot,

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Speaker 3: Oh that's not a good start. All the other women

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Speaker 3: I bring back I love disgnes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's being honest, and he's clearly wanted man subject

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's reword that a little bit, Ethan.

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Speaker 4: Sure, it's just whoever I hang out with, I have

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Speaker 6: Well, well, first of all, I did not plan on

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Speaker 6: understand that nobody does that. I promise you, maybe like

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Speaker 1: Well I don't think the criminals really do that.

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Speaker 6: It's not it's not a normal thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're kind of selling it to yourself there,

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Speaker 2: because all of the best parties and events that I've

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Speaker 3: Especially the criminal ones.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would tell you more, but I'm technically not

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Speaker 5: So wait, aren't you dying of curiosity of who his

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Speaker 3: I need to feel like i'd sign it just to

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Speaker 6: Honestly, it just seems fake to me.

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Speaker 2: Believe that he's really like as a famous dad.

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Speaker 4: You don't believe me that I'm rich and famous. I'm on.

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Speaker 6: I mean, then I'm surprised we went to that restaurant.

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Speaker 2: But okay, okay, exactly, No, it fits the profile. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't like to be caught on camera. He doesn't like

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Speaker 1: Who he is.

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Speaker 5: And all the rich and famous people need our help

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Speaker 5: getting another date.

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Speaker 3: It's true, everybody in Hollywood knows.

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Speaker 4: Aria.

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Speaker 2: You should really rethink your decision here. I would like

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Speaker 2: to offer to send you out on another date with

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Speaker 4: Hey, before she answers, I need to let you know.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm out. She just doesn't value privacy as

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Speaker 6: Yes, Yeah, I think I'm done before I have the

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Speaker 6: chance to say it. Great, are you kidding?

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Speaker 4: We're done?

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Speaker 3: Dude, this is going to kill me. Alexis sign anything?

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Speaker 1: But then you can't tell anyone.

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Speaker 3: She can tell me? Can I text it?

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Speaker 1: There's always loopholes in these as.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for trying. I appreciate it, but I've got to go. No.

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Speaker 6: What happened.

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Speaker 3: That's happened is we didn't get any answers.

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Speaker 1: What has happened as you lost your chance with Ben

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Speaker 1: Stiller's son is what happens?

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Speaker 2: Still, that's right, looking Jeffrey in the morning. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to get mad at people for saying no. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's totally their right, But sometimes you need to pull

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Speaker 2: a Brook and drop your morals and just say yes

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Speaker 2: to someone that you don't even like, just for the story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do it for the plot.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I is their originator of that slogan,

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Speaker 5: doing that for decads just for the plot.

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Speaker 2: How many basement boys and homeless folks did you go

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Speaker 3: But they're such good stories and they were good people.

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Speaker 3: Sort of plot it's fun and I got I want

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Speaker 3: closure on this so bad.

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Speaker 2: I know now we're never going to know who the

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Speaker 2: NDA guy really is and that is going to haunt

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Speaker 2: all of us for the rest of our year and

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Speaker 2: probably the rest of our lives.

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Speaker 3: It is kind of a baller move.

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Speaker 5: If it's just a lie to say that you have

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Speaker 5: to sign an dall is it.

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Speaker 2: Ball if you can't get a date, though, If you

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Speaker 2: can't get a date NDA or not, you can always

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Speaker 2: reach out to us. We'll call that person who's not

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Speaker 2: calling you back and if you want to go check

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Speaker 2: out all of our second date updates. They're available on

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Speaker 2: podcasts wherever you get yours at Brook and Jeffrey