Speaker 1: Thirty two seconds left to the half. The Ravens have
Speaker 1: all three of their time outs. Say Flowers goes in motion.
Speaker 1: Lamar takes the snap, deep drop steps up, going deep
Speaker 1: at the five at the goal live Peytonent is there.
Speaker 2: He makes the.
Speaker 3: Couch touchdot were shot Bateman. Oh what a play, What
Speaker 3: a play it was, and what a night for the
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. Thirty to twenty three. They go into Sofi
Speaker 3: Stadium and get the victory. That was Jerry Sandusky on
Speaker 3: WB A L and that forty yard touchdown late in
Speaker 3: the second quarter was part of a Raven surge where
Speaker 3: you want to say this was a close game between
Speaker 3: two evenly matched teams, but it really wasn't. For the
Speaker 3: first quarter, it's all Chargers, and for the most part,
Speaker 3: Nick shook. The rest of the game, the better team
Speaker 3: showed up and it didn't feel quite as close as
Speaker 3: the final score even indicated, and.
Speaker 4: The better team won in a classic fashion, in a
Speaker 4: fashion that is very much on brand for the Baltimore
Speaker 4: Ravens in twenty twenty four, which is running the football,
Speaker 4: establishing ground dominance, and riding Derrick Henry to victory one
Speaker 4: hundred and forty yards on twenty four carries. He rumbles
Speaker 4: down the field, he powers a couple of scoring drives.
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is able to work out of the play
Speaker 4: action from there and the Ravens dropped thirty points thirty
Speaker 4: to six after going down ten to nothing and prove
Speaker 4: their superiority over the upstart Chargers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they only ran about eight plays in the first
Speaker 3: nineteen minutes of this game. It was perfect for the Chargers.
Speaker 3: They were controlling the clock, they were going on long drives.
Speaker 3: They get a ton ten to nothing lead, and after
Speaker 3: that the Ravens scored five straight times. And they showed
Speaker 3: a stat on ESPN that the Chargers had stopped third
Speaker 3: and ten or longer for thirty one straight plays. When
Speaker 3: they had a third and ten and when Lamar Jackson
Speaker 3: found Zay Flowers I believe it was on the sideline
Speaker 3: of that play and they hit it. I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 3: the Ravens are winning this game. Like, first you put
Speaker 3: that up. They haven't done it in thirty one times.
Speaker 3: They go on to score a touchdown on that drive,
Speaker 3: and then they continue to score and the game nick
Speaker 3: just on a broader level. And then I'll get into
Speaker 3: the nitty gritty really had echoes to me of some
Speaker 3: previous games that me and you have talked about. Number
Speaker 3: One Ravens Bengals, where the Ravens offense starts really slow,
Speaker 3: and this has happened a couple times for them. They're
Speaker 3: like an old car that just like takes a little
Speaker 3: while to get going, and then once the second quarter hits,
Speaker 3: you can't stop them. It had echoes of Bengals Chargers
Speaker 3: from a week ago, where the Chargers start out so well,
Speaker 3: but what they're doing on offense, which in this case,
Speaker 3: you know, first drive touchdown, they don't get a touchdown
Speaker 3: again until the end of the second half, and their defense,
Speaker 3: which had played so well initially, kind of caves in
Speaker 3: in the second half. And then it gave me echoes
Speaker 3: of the game just last night. It's so far ultimately
Speaker 3: the team that can run the rock, as you said,
Speaker 3: just absolutely took over in the second half. The Ravens
Speaker 3: run for two to twelve in this game. The Chargers
Speaker 3: run for eighty three, which is crazy because they had
Speaker 3: more than that at halftime. I believe they had negative
Speaker 3: yards at least late in the second half, it was
Speaker 3: like one hundred and twelve to negative six in terms
Speaker 3: of rushing yards in the second half. Our friend JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins leaves with a knee injury, so hope the best
Speaker 3: for him. But just a lot of feel of all
Speaker 3: these games that we've seen and kind of the commonality
Speaker 3: in all of them is, as you said, that the
Speaker 3: team that can just grind it out gets it done
Speaker 3: in the end.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: First off, I like the car metaphor, but the Ravens
Speaker 4: are not a Ford Pinto.
Speaker 5: They are like a Lamborghini tuntajh.
Speaker 4: You know, like, let's got there an eighties you know,
Speaker 4: exotic sports car that has been sitting in the garage
Speaker 4: for twenty thirty years and he's a little bit of
Speaker 4: time to warm up, but once it gets warmed up,
Speaker 4: it's taken off.
Speaker 5: That's Baltimore in a nutshell.
Speaker 4: But again, it's true in any football game, and especially
Speaker 4: in a football game that has Dereck Henry the football
Speaker 4: and Lamar Jackson as a running threat. Oh and Justice
Speaker 4: Hill popping one for a touchdown as well, is that
Speaker 4: if you can control the ground game, you could win
Speaker 4: the game. And especially if you can stop the ground
Speaker 4: game for the other team, then it really tilts in
Speaker 4: your favor. Which is essentially the story in the second
Speaker 4: half for the Ravens. I mean, this is a game
Speaker 4: in which the Charges go to halftime down by three points.
Speaker 4: They run the ball five times the rest of the game.
Speaker 4: They lose JK. Dobbins to a knee injury at halftime.
Speaker 4: He doesn't come back. Then they just forget that they
Speaker 4: also have a couple more running backs, one being Gus Edwards,
Speaker 4: and just go pass heavy. They also lose the time
Speaker 4: of possession battle, which they led by seven minutes and
Speaker 4: twenty seconds in a halftime. They end up losing it
Speaker 4: overall in the game. They couldn't sustain drives and a
Speaker 4: lot of that I think had to do with the
Speaker 4: unbalanced approach. And it's really funny. It's almost too perfect.
Speaker 4: It's poetic. Greg Roman being the OC for the Chargers
Speaker 4: losing the balance of his offense against his former team
Speaker 4: which now is Todd Munkin and is able to balance
Speaker 4: out their offense and put a ton of points on
Speaker 4: the board to win the game.
Speaker 3: Well, the only thing I would push back is when
Speaker 3: they tried to run it with Gus Edwards. It was
Speaker 3: not effective carries for eleven yards and they weren't good
Speaker 3: on early downs running. He had a couple short yardage runs,
Speaker 3: so he did have some successful runs, but they didn't
Speaker 3: stick with it, which which is absolutely fair to point out.
Speaker 3: And you flip it over to the Ravens and that
Speaker 3: first touchdown drive that they had, that which you know
Speaker 3: finished at the in the second quarter, Derreck Henry was
Speaker 3: making the right reads and picking up seven eight yards
Speaker 3: And the reason they didn't move the ball in the
Speaker 3: first quarter was really just Lamar Jackson was off and
Speaker 3: it ended drives. He missed a couple throws, ha had
Speaker 3: a bad read on one of them, and they were
Speaker 3: three and out and then five and out. But to me,
Speaker 3: the story of this game, and I'm going to go
Speaker 3: through a couple of plays here, Nick, so bear with me,
Speaker 3: are the short yardage plays. You know where I'm.
Speaker 5: Starting, right, Yep, yep, yep. Fourth That the.
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews fourth and one call with about two minutes
Speaker 3: to go in the second quarter. You come back after
Speaker 3: they tried to pull off sides after the two minute warning,
Speaker 3: you think they're gonna punt, and they actually line up
Speaker 3: to go for it at their own sixteen and everyone
Speaker 3: that would have been blaming John Harbaugh if it didn't work,
Speaker 3: better be pointing out that that decision and their fourth
Speaker 3: down decisions were one of the big reasons they won
Speaker 3: this game. Now, the reason you make that call, especially
Speaker 3: with two minutes to go, the situation is they're losing
Speaker 3: that game. They don't want to give the Chargers a
Speaker 3: chance to get the ball again and score before halftime.
Speaker 3: So at worst, we trust our offensive line. This is
Speaker 3: what we do well. We can pick up and it
Speaker 3: wasn't even a full yard three feet and get three
Speaker 3: feet and at the very least keep them off the
Speaker 3: scoreboard A handful of plays later, after they hand the
Speaker 3: ball to Mark Andrews, who gets it with a tush
Speaker 3: push like play. It's a little ballsy to make that
Speaker 3: your call. On fourth and one, that's when you hear
Speaker 3: that Bateman throw to finish out the scoring. Next fourth
Speaker 3: and one, third quarter on their own thirty nine yard line,
Speaker 3: they give it to Derrick Henry twenty seven yard run.
Speaker 3: Later that drive, they have a fourth and one where
Speaker 3: they're in pretty close field goal range. Again, you give
Speaker 3: it to Henry, he gets two yards, they convert it.
Speaker 3: They later score a touchdown instead of a field goal,
Speaker 3: and then finally in the fourth quarter, you have some
Speaker 3: short yardage situations. I can think of two, but one
Speaker 3: really stands out, the third and one to Derrick Henry
Speaker 3: where they're just trying to possess the ball. It's not
Speaker 3: a fourth down play, but he gets to the outside.
Speaker 3: You have the perfect defense called two different defenders are there,
Speaker 3: and Derrick Henry just stiff arms Dayon Henley into the
Speaker 3: atmosphere and he gets it. And there's just no answer.
Speaker 3: When you're that good in short yardage, you win games.
Speaker 3: And let's wrap up this short yardage montage with a
Speaker 3: third and three from Justice Hill, which yes, ultimately put
Speaker 3: the game out of reach. I'm third and three.
Speaker 1: We give us a Justice Hill sweeping left side, crosses
Speaker 1: Smith Peel Hatel, the forty charge with thirty who like
Speaker 1: race twenty, Justice.
Speaker 3: Hill ten.
Speaker 4: Touch raves Justice who goes fifty one yards and the
Speaker 4: Ravens extender lead.
Speaker 3: That's what's seven minutes left in the game. And Derrick
Speaker 3: Henry needed a blow there, sook And that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in these short yarded situations. Everyone's up there trying
Speaker 3: to stop them and they pop some big ones.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that third down that you mentioned with with Derrick
Speaker 4: Henry stiff arming. He stiff arms two guys to win
Speaker 4: the edge on that run to get the first down.
Speaker 4: Like there are only a few running backs in the
Speaker 4: NFL that can do that, which is why he's the
Speaker 4: perfect fit for this offense. They even spooking out on
Speaker 4: the broadcast how there's he wouldn't be performing like this
Speaker 4: in another place, but because he's in Baltimore, he's having
Speaker 4: a great year. And it speaks to the threat of
Speaker 4: the Baltimore offense in that if you get them to
Speaker 4: fourth down, because that third, that fourth and one sequence
Speaker 4: that you mentioned just before halftime, Chargers defense is celebrating
Speaker 4: like we just got a big stop. We're gonna get
Speaker 4: an opportunity to put points on the board. Crowd is
Speaker 4: going pretty wild for them, relatively speaking for a Chargers Oh,
Speaker 4: they were good.
Speaker 3: Give the Chargers fans some credit.
Speaker 5: These last they were louder than usual. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I gotta say Rams ownership might be seeing this and
Speaker 3: be like, wow, they kind of got they got something
Speaker 3: going there with the Chargers crowd.
Speaker 4: Sorry, No, you're right though, I mean, all the vibes
Speaker 4: are good for them. They're like, yeah, we're having a
Speaker 4: great first half. The defense that has been their calling
Speaker 4: card all the year. They're playing tip physical, they're playing tough.
Speaker 4: They get a stop and then they surrender. They surrender
Speaker 4: because Mark Andrews is the one who forces them to
Speaker 4: surrender by getting the first down, and that leads them
Speaker 4: down the field to score. And that's when the momentum flipped.
Speaker 4: And like you said, that's when the Ravens really won
Speaker 4: this game. It wasn't even the second half and their
Speaker 4: relative dominance in that game, it was that sequence right there.
Speaker 4: But that's who the Ravens can be. You can get
Speaker 4: them in fourth and short and you can't guarantee that
Speaker 4: you're still going to get off the field against them.
Speaker 4: That's the mark of a true contender. And it's it
Speaker 4: really illustrates what we learned about the Chargers was just
Speaker 4: that even though they have a very physical defense, they
Speaker 4: played above expectation throughout this year, they are still figuring
Speaker 4: out how to be winners, how to convert in key
Speaker 4: situations like that. And I think that this in their
Speaker 4: first true test of the twenty twenty four season. All
Speaker 4: the people that were a little skeptical about them, I
Speaker 4: think they got good.
Speaker 3: The haters are going to come out. You know, I've
Speaker 3: got this gentleman's or gentle woman's wager with Mina Kimes.
Speaker 3: Just nothing on the line here but that they wouldn't
Speaker 3: finish in the top twenty of defensive DVOA. And you know,
Speaker 3: she asked me the questions today, like have they really
Speaker 3: played anyone good defense? Me, I'm like, they've played the Chiefs,
Speaker 3: who have a pretty good running attack when they had
Speaker 3: Pacheco back then, and they played the Cardinals. So let's
Speaker 3: calm down about them not having played anyone but the
Speaker 3: teams they've beat. To be fair, Scott Van Pelt pointed
Speaker 3: this out had a twenty six and fifty two record,
Speaker 3: and so the teams that they've beat have not been
Speaker 3: great teams. Their best win was in Denver, which is
Speaker 3: a nice win. They are at Atlanta, then they're at
Speaker 3: Kansas City, home for the Broncos and the Bucks in
Speaker 3: a row. Those are four challenging games. I think they
Speaker 3: can win some of those, but the offenses for the
Speaker 3: most part that are efficient. In fact, three out of
Speaker 3: those four offenses are in the top eight of dvo WAY.
Speaker 3: And so we'll see what the defensive ranking is after
Speaker 3: that stretch of games. You need to find some wins.
Speaker 3: It would have been nice to come out. You get
Speaker 3: out to a ten nothing lead here, you're a little
Speaker 3: disappointed you didn't come away with this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and my conservative Chargers going forward, this may be
Speaker 4: a preview of a late season slide for them. And
Speaker 4: it's not the defense, really. Yeah, they got run through
Speaker 4: by Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson and Justin Justice Hill tonight.
Speaker 4: It's the offense. It's the fact that I don't think
Speaker 4: this team is built to come from behind. And if
Speaker 4: you're not able to get an advantage, which they did,
Speaker 4: by the way, ten to nothing early in this game,
Speaker 4: and hang on to that advantage into the second half,
Speaker 4: you're in a tough spot because if the running game
Speaker 4: is not working, as it wasn't in the second half,
Speaker 4: your passing game, despite how well Justin Herbert has played,
Speaker 4: especially in the last six weeks, is still very limited
Speaker 4: by the guy's catching passes from him. Lad mcconkeye is
Speaker 4: the only guy I trust to make a play in
Speaker 4: this receiving core right now. They took like four d
Speaker 4: shots to Josh Palmer. None of them had a chance
Speaker 4: of being completed at one time. I think the broadcast
Speaker 4: talked about how you got to put it on him.
Speaker 4: Herbert puts a perfect ball just inside the sideline redline
Speaker 4: throw Pauler has no idea where it is, no idea
Speaker 4: where it is. They keep trying to go to him
Speaker 4: deep because Johnston doesn't make plays. He drops the pass
Speaker 4: on the drag route and the key situation down. A
Speaker 4: score on third down would have been a huge game.
Speaker 4: If he held on to the football, gets in his head,
Speaker 4: drops two more. They're limited offensively when they have to throw.
Speaker 4: And that's why I think as we get into December,
Speaker 4: we're going to come to realize who these Chargers really are.
Speaker 4: And I hate to say for Chargers fans, but I
Speaker 4: think they're gonna get a real dose of harsh reality
Speaker 4: here in the next few weeks.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's calm down.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I see the tracks.
Speaker 3: I hear you. But I do think they're a well
Speaker 3: coached team. They showed that at the end of the
Speaker 3: second quarter when they manage the clock very well. They
Speaker 3: don't beat themselves too much with penalties, and Herbert is
Speaker 3: the man. He played really well tonight. I thought, for
Speaker 3: the most part, not nothing out of this world, but
Speaker 3: You're right, if his receivers make more plays for him
Speaker 3: down the field, if they get that pass interference call
Speaker 3: that they change their mind on. On the Josh Palmer play,
Speaker 3: it was him and Brandon Stevens late in the game,
Speaker 3: they at least would have been set up to make
Speaker 3: it more of a one score game. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: trying to drive down twenty three to sixteen in the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. It was a competitive game. When Johnston starts
Speaker 3: dropping all these passes. So I'm just thinking about the
Speaker 3: Johnston fantasy owners, like the guys that needed two points
Speaker 3: tonight in fantasy or whatever, four points and let the
Speaker 3: ball just keeps coming back to him and he just
Speaker 3: keeps dropping it over and over or not making contested catches.
Speaker 3: You're right. There was a couple times where Palmer, who
Speaker 3: had eight targets, caught three for thirty eight, just didn't
Speaker 3: turn the right way. The fact that Jalen Rager is
Speaker 3: heavily involved as actually a decent role player for them
Speaker 3: and been a little more reliable just shows where they're at.
Speaker 3: I agree with offensively that they're limited, because one disagreement
Speaker 3: I had with Troy Aikman during the night was how
Speaker 3: there are more balanced team, and they're running the ball
Speaker 3: a lot, and they're not a good running team. They've
Speaker 3: popped a few runs late in games, but they're not
Speaker 3: a consistent running team. They have one of the worst
Speaker 3: success rates in the league. And they're actually not a
Speaker 3: heavy run team either. Since the bye week, they are
Speaker 3: one of the past heaviest teams in neutral situations in
Speaker 3: the league. They have put it all on Justin Herbert's
Speaker 3: arm because that's what they do best, and it didn't
Speaker 3: work tonight, and I think a little credit has to
Speaker 3: go to the Ravens secondary hesitant to give them too
Speaker 3: much credit, but at the end of the day, the
Speaker 3: Chargers ended up with two hundred and two net passing
Speaker 3: yards two hundred and eighty five overall, and that includes
Speaker 3: a lot of that garbage time yards. I would have
Speaker 3: killed them if they looked like they did in the
Speaker 3: first quarter the rest of the game, but they settled
Speaker 3: down and that's too good an enough performances where guys
Speaker 3: like Trenevious White and Stevens Nate Wiggins made some play
Speaker 3: They survived without Rokuwon Smith. I thought that would be
Speaker 3: a big issue. They survived. They just need to be
Speaker 3: okay to support the best offense in the league right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wiggins actually made a physical play, which I was
Speaker 4: surprised because he's just a slight guy, Like he's long,
Speaker 4: but he's pretty thin. He made a really nice physical
Speaker 4: pass breakup on third and short that forced a punt,
Speaker 4: and I was like, Oh.
Speaker 5: Look at Wiggins, you know, lower the boom a little bit. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's good.
Speaker 4: That's good promise and progress from a rookie corner who's
Speaker 4: obviously very gifted athletically. And I think that it's also
Speaker 4: a good demonstration of Zach Orr kind of figuring out
Speaker 4: how to adjust in the flow of the game because
Speaker 4: they've there's been times where they have just not had
Speaker 4: an answer in some of these games. That's how you
Speaker 4: kind of got to seven and four overall, is because
Speaker 4: they just haven't been consistent on that side of the ball.
Speaker 4: But to go back to that Chargers point one more time,
Speaker 4: the reason that they are where they are right now
Speaker 4: is because that defense has played well enough. They've played
Speaker 4: tough and physical enough to win games against lesser opponents.
Speaker 4: And now you've described that stretch that they're about to face.
Speaker 4: That's where my lack of you know, where I expect
Speaker 4: them to actually produce. Like That's where my uncertainty lies
Speaker 4: in is the fact that, okay, well, if that defense
Speaker 4: doesn't show up week by week, I don't know if
Speaker 4: you have the greatest shot to keep up.
Speaker 5: With some of these teams.
Speaker 3: So that's why this game, this week's game against Atlanta
Speaker 3: is really big for two teams that to me are
Speaker 3: our borderline playoff teams. But yeah, our candidates to sink
Speaker 3: a little in the second half and they played each other.
Speaker 3: They had a couple injuries before tonight on the defense.
Speaker 3: One of their starting corners, heart Kim Hart was out
Speaker 3: and Denzil Parriman was out, so they hope to get
Speaker 3: him back. Joey Bose is killing them. This has really
Speaker 3: been on my radar that he is in one hundred
Speaker 3: percent this contract that he's had for them, if you
Speaker 3: go through it. He hasn't played more than five hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty snaps since twenty twenty one. He's only played
Speaker 3: more than five hundred and fifty snaps three times in
Speaker 3: his career. This could have been a Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: type player. He's now, I believe, playing through a hip
Speaker 3: injury and he's just not making any impact on these games.
Speaker 3: And they have a pretty good defensive line anyways, but
Speaker 3: it didn't make much of an impact tonight. They did
Speaker 3: a good job protecting, and they certainly did a good
Speaker 3: job running and you know, blocking for Derrick Henry and
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, who I think ultimately improves his MVP cases.
Speaker 3: We got a long way to go to me right now.
Speaker 3: It's it's Saquon, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson as the
Speaker 3: three main contenders, and it's going to take someone else
Speaker 3: going a little nuts to get in there. Like if
Speaker 3: Herbert had thrown five touchdowns tonight and they won, then
Speaker 3: like maybe he starts getting into the mix. We got
Speaker 3: a lot of road now outside, but at this point
Speaker 3: that obviously didn't happen. Far from happen. It's going to
Speaker 3: be Lamar and those two guys. And I thought Lamar
Speaker 3: made some bad decisions tonight on like when to throw
Speaker 3: and when not to run. Got away with the throw
Speaker 3: a few passes, had some incompletions where he could have
Speaker 3: picked it up with his legs, but ultimately what he
Speaker 3: needed it, like on third down, he was money. That
Speaker 3: throat of Bateman was awesome and and maybe the biggest
Speaker 3: play in the game other than that, to me was
Speaker 3: the third and goal. It's the fourth quarter, it's a
Speaker 3: one point game. They're at about the eighth yard line,
Speaker 3: and that's a tough touchdown the complete third and goal
Speaker 3: from the eight and if they don't hit that, you
Speaker 3: have Justin Tucker kicking to go up four. But they
Speaker 3: did hit it, and it gives us an excuse to
Speaker 3: listen to our guy, Kevin Harlan. Third and goal for
Speaker 3: the Ravens. Chapin chants are territory shotgunsnap chopping back five
Speaker 3: line tive throw, put raping catch.
Speaker 5: Back to the un shown touch tydun Andrews a beautiful
Speaker 5: front like.
Speaker 3: Line five touchdown pass Lamar Jackson with a strike of
Speaker 3: six yards. That tandem is awesome. Great catch, great throw,
Speaker 3: great call by Kevin Harlan. What a freaking pro on
Speaker 3: Westwood One, because there was an officiating nonsense for two
Speaker 3: minutes after that trying to decide if it was a
Speaker 3: touchdown or not. But Kevin Harlan knew it was a
Speaker 3: touchdown and he just called it a touchdown. That alone
Speaker 3: should make get one of the calls of the year.
Speaker 3: Although I'll have to remember that at the end of
Speaker 3: the year put it on the list.
Speaker 4: What I really liked was the description a beautiful thread
Speaker 4: like line drive pass, because that's exactly what it was,
Speaker 4: and delivering it perfectly in rhythm. That's Kevin Harlan to
Speaker 4: a tee And that was Mark Andrews to a t No,
Speaker 4: there are a few guys in the league that you
Speaker 4: could trust more than Mark Andrews in the red zone
Speaker 4: in situations like that. Go throw one up there. Let
Speaker 4: the big man go up there and snag in the
Speaker 4: back of the end zone. What a great play.
Speaker 3: Yeah. All the good Ravens offensive players made plays which
Speaker 3: kind of loved to see. They are deeper than they
Speaker 3: used to beak Justice Hill has been a nice role
Speaker 3: play for them. He obviously had to touch on Derrick
Speaker 3: Henry Zay Flowers that catch and run that he had
Speaker 3: after the fourth down. It was on another third down
Speaker 3: to Zay Flowers where he feels where the defender is
Speaker 3: behind him and makes a big yards after the catch
Speaker 3: to help set up that Bateman touchdown just a few
Speaker 3: plays later. All the guys really stepped up and were
Speaker 3: in the mix. And it's just it's a tough offense
Speaker 3: because I feel like, was that really even that great
Speaker 3: of a Lamar Jackson game? And then you think, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: he averaged, you know, over eight yards per attempt, a
Speaker 3: couple touchdowns, had a touchdown running the ball as well.
Speaker 3: He now has twenty two touchdowns and no interceptions on
Speaker 3: Monday Night football in his career, which is just a
Speaker 3: preposterous that. I feel like, half of those touchdowns, I'm sorry, Nick,
Speaker 3: came against your Cleveland brown so at least tonight it
Speaker 3: was someone else.
Speaker 4: Well, i mean, the Browns won that game, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it's true there was a couple.
Speaker 3: You're right, though, I'm remembering.
Speaker 4: The Yeah, he's one of the best players in the NFL.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's still my front runner for MVP. Saquon
Speaker 4: is gonna make it interesting. It's funny because we're like, oh,
Speaker 4: kind of a quiet night, two touchdown passes, rushing touchdown.
Speaker 4: It's because Dereck Henry kind of led the way, you know,
Speaker 4: with the visual impression you know, on the audience and
Speaker 4: everybody watching is just like, oh, look at Derek Henry
Speaker 4: running through the defense. Again, look at that stuff farm
Speaker 4: But oh, by the way, Lamar also accounted for three
Speaker 4: touchdowns in this game. Just classic, typical Lamar, typical Ravens,
Speaker 4: and this is how they win football games.
Speaker 5: This is their brand.
Speaker 3: It might work against Lamar when it comes to voting time.
Speaker 3: I think it will. It's a narrative award sometimes and
Speaker 3: having a player like Derrick Henry, who tonight I do
Speaker 3: think picked up his teammate Lamar, and the Running Game
Speaker 3: picked up Lamar. Now, Lamar is obviously impacting that running Game,
Speaker 3: but Henry did pick him up after a slow start.
Speaker 3: And I think it's like you might cancel out the votes.
Speaker 3: I think people would be more excited if it's close
Speaker 3: to vote for Josh Allen because he's never won it before. Yes,
Speaker 3: I do, or just even if it's mental, like you
Speaker 3: now vote for five MVP candidates. And by the way,
Speaker 3: I got an update from the Associated Press who listens
Speaker 3: to this very podcast that they will be voting on
Speaker 3: all the awards with the top five.
Speaker 5: Way to Go A way to bring clarity to the map.
Speaker 5: Thank you be the change. Yes that I don't.
Speaker 3: Really think I was the one that made that happen,
Speaker 3: but I was informed it is happening, so I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna take credit either way. Let's let's just enjoy that
Speaker 3: that is happening. So the Coach of the year, defensive
Speaker 3: player of the year will all be top five. And
Speaker 3: so I actually do think Derrek Henry right now would
Speaker 3: probably be in my top five or and some people's
Speaker 3: top five. And yes, I do think, just mentally, even
Speaker 3: if you didn't have him there, you might put Labar
Speaker 3: down a little bit. Plus he's already won it twice,
Speaker 3: So I think Josh Allen and Saquon who knows. There's
Speaker 3: so much time to go that I think we don't
Speaker 3: need to be ranking these each and every week, but
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 5: I am curious.
Speaker 4: I want to know who that fifth guy is in
Speaker 4: your top five, because we just listed four of them.
Speaker 5: This could be debatable here. I kind of want to
Speaker 5: hear it.
Speaker 3: Okay, tell me yours, if you've got it off, I
Speaker 3: would I would. I didn't think it.
Speaker 4: Through as of about a week prior. I probably would
Speaker 4: have thrown Burrow as the fifth.
Speaker 3: I don't love that. I know wins are not a
Speaker 3: QB stat. He wouldn't be a bad fifth spot. He'd
Speaker 3: be in my mix. I hate that they've lost so
Speaker 3: many games with the offense having the ball at the end.
Speaker 3: I would think about Pina Seol, which is why I
Speaker 3: think having five spots is it's like you you represent
Speaker 3: something cool. That's like, what what you can do with
Speaker 3: your fifth spot. I would think if he has a
Speaker 3: huge dress of the year, people will kill me for this. Actually, no,
Speaker 3: I take it back. I'm not even gonna say it,
Speaker 3: not even gonna say it.
Speaker 5: Be still by beating Hardy picked a lineman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's go, Let's go Pine School. Uh, it's
Speaker 3: taken the song. We haven't mentioned that two brothers coached
Speaker 3: against each other in this game. I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 3: a question. Are you continually surprised when you hear them
Speaker 3: say how John Harbaugh is the older brother? Yeah, Gym
Speaker 3: seemed like the yeah brother.
Speaker 4: And I had that thought tonight, and the only thing
Speaker 4: I can think of was God, all those years in
Speaker 4: college football in the NFL must have really taken a
Speaker 4: toll on him.
Speaker 5: He's also like more intense, so he's aging.
Speaker 3: He also looks great for his age. It's just John
Speaker 3: Harbaugh's never aged. He's in his sixties on the track right.
Speaker 3: It's it's nothing against Jim. It's not just the looks though,
Speaker 3: It's just he just seems like he would be the
Speaker 3: older brother. But then occasionally you hear Jim say all
Speaker 3: I ever wanted to be was like my older brother John.
Speaker 3: And it might be because no one had ever heard
Speaker 3: of John Harbaugh except you know, if you are a
Speaker 3: big Ravens fans are Eagles fan, because he was a
Speaker 3: special teams coach until the moment he was the head
Speaker 3: coach of the Ravens. I remember I was at Roade
Speaker 3: World NBC at the time, and it's like, who are
Speaker 3: they hiring for? Oh, they're hiring their special teams coach. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's a little random for such a good franchise. Just
Speaker 3: you know, won the Super Bowl not too long ago,
Speaker 3: and now here he is all this time later, and
Speaker 3: he is the big brother. He beats his little brother
Speaker 3: each time. Three and oh and he's just you know,
Speaker 3: in the biggest of spots and in primetime tonight three and.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, good for him. I would love
Speaker 4: to say, oh, I'd love to see him meet back
Speaker 4: up in like the AFC Championship, but I think that's
Speaker 4: a little premature.
Speaker 3: I would take it in the wildcard Wildcard round.
Speaker 5: That would be fun, although we would all get tired
Speaker 5: of that narrative.
Speaker 3: It's fine, the coaches whatever. I think it's cool. It
Speaker 3: is cool that two brothers are coaching against each other
Speaker 3: and there's such Jim is such a value add to
Speaker 3: any scenario that he's fun. But it's more just Justin
Speaker 3: Herbert versus Lamar Jackson. I'd like to see, all right, Herbert,
Speaker 3: maybe in a playoff setting, can you unleash a little more,
Speaker 3: get a little more aggressive. I don't know how much
Speaker 3: more aggressive he really could have been. I don't put
Speaker 3: this on him.
Speaker 5: No, it's not on him. He's playing.
Speaker 4: He's playing well, and he's taking shots and he's and
Speaker 4: he's throwing accurate passes.
Speaker 5: It's just the other end of the pass is not
Speaker 5: being held up.
Speaker 3: All right, And good job by Justin Tucker hitting a
Speaker 3: field goal. I hate that we're at the point where
Speaker 3: we're just like, hey, hit a forty seven yard field goal.
Speaker 3: But maybe that's technique him turning it around. And I'm
Speaker 3: glad you also mentioned that Charges crowd when they booed
Speaker 3: the hell out of Quinton Johnston. I was like, okay, okay, Charges.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it's pretty spicy, like Raven's tray. But
Speaker 3: it was still a very heavy Chargers crowd tonight. It's
Speaker 3: a good job Chargers fan, Good job, Nick. We're gonna
Speaker 3: take a quick break and we'll come back after to
Speaker 3: do some news and give you our players of the
Speaker 3: week back on NFL Daily. It's a condensed week. It's
Speaker 3: got my parents coming in. We're gonna be taping our
Speaker 3: preview show just a little bit earlier. Got some programming
Speaker 3: all throughout the week. I'm looking forward to it, and
Speaker 3: let's do a little bit of news, Nick. We learned
Speaker 3: on Monday that Daniel Jones cleared waivers. No surprise, no
Speaker 3: one wanted that contract. Not a surprise that he has
Speaker 3: a lot of interest around the league. There was one
Speaker 3: report it was up to ten teams, which is wild.
Speaker 3: The Vikings are believed to be one of them. Kevin
Speaker 3: O'Connell was asked about Daniel Jones on Monday.
Speaker 2: Tons of respect for Daniel Jones as a player and
Speaker 2: a person got to know him through the draft process
Speaker 2: years ago, and you know, I'm sure now that he's,
Speaker 2: you know, a free agent and there's probably a ton
Speaker 2: of league wide interest in him. You know, Daniel's gonna
Speaker 2: make the decision. That's that's best for him and his
Speaker 2: career moving forward. And I'm sure he's working through that
Speaker 2: process right now. But I really can't get into too
Speaker 2: much about, you know, any short term or long term.
Speaker 2: I can just say, you know, been a fan of
Speaker 2: Daniels for a long time and hope, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: wherever his next stop takes him, it's a it's a
Speaker 2: good opportunity for him.
Speaker 3: Now. That's not tampering because he's a free agent. But
Speaker 3: if I heard that, I would be like, I want
Speaker 3: to I want to play with that dude. That's the
Speaker 3: dude that's gassing up even the quarterbacks he beats like
Speaker 3: like Caleb Williams and I forget who else it was
Speaker 3: this season where he's always so good after the game.
Speaker 3: That's one possibility. Ian Rappaport mentioned the Ravens and the
Speaker 3: Bills as potential contenders. That he could be a backup
Speaker 3: on the forty nine ers, depending on Brock Purdy's situation,
Speaker 3: could be an option. The Raiders would seemingly be interested,
Speaker 3: but I don't know why Daniel Jones would want to
Speaker 3: do that unless he was just desperate to play. But
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to do that personally. Where would you
Speaker 3: like to see Daniel Jones. It does sound like he
Speaker 3: will be on a team in the next week or two.
Speaker 4: This has nothing to do with my background or where
Speaker 4: I live, but I had this thought occurred to me
Speaker 4: like a month ago, where I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 4: if the Giants move on from Daniel Jones after this year,
Speaker 4: I could see him anying up on the Browns roster
Speaker 4: in the offseason. As of right now, it makes the
Speaker 4: most sense to go to San Francisco. I think the
Speaker 4: Buffalo fit is intriguing because he's mobile. The Kevin O'Connell
Speaker 4: thing saying that he's you know, he always liked him
Speaker 4: a bit of a surprise, but again, you're working with
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, so it's nice to have a backup with
Speaker 4: experience there as well. Also, he gassed him up in
Speaker 4: a sweater that screamed I just sweat out and overtime
Speaker 4: win over the Bears.
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell loves all these quarterbacks, so they're one on him.
Speaker 3: He feels he feels for all of them that are
Speaker 3: struggling because he puts himself in those shoes. And he
Speaker 3: also knows Daniel Jones is a better football player than
Speaker 3: Nick Mullens and is supremely confident in his own coaching
Speaker 3: ability and thinks, well, if we needed someone, if Sam
Speaker 3: Bradford got hurt, he would probably give us a better chance.
Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see. And we kept good on
Speaker 3: our promise. Remember on this very show last Monday, would
Speaker 3: we said we're not going to talk about Daniel Jones
Speaker 3: again until the day he got cut. And after this
Speaker 3: long saga, we didn't even talk about him on the
Speaker 3: day he got cut because that day was a Friday,
Speaker 3: the only back to back days of the NFL Daily
Speaker 3: week where we don't have a show. Then we were
Speaker 3: onto the recap and I kind of appreciate that the
Speaker 3: Giants just buried Daniel Jones getting cut on a Friday
Speaker 3: after playing him as the scout team safety on a Thursday.
Speaker 4: What a mess you are, Giants, is yes, yeah, And
Speaker 4: it was a good Friday news dump number one and
Speaker 4: number two.
Speaker 5: Good on us for not going against our word.
Speaker 3: We're winning, although we have probably spent too much time
Speaker 3: on him. Right now, let's go on to the other
Speaker 3: New York football team. The team announced on Monday that
Speaker 3: they are going to get helped from the thirty third
Speaker 3: team if you're not familiar with that. That is Mike
Speaker 3: Tannenbomb's NFL technology and media company. According to the press release,
Speaker 3: I just thought it was like a website. I didn't
Speaker 3: know it was a technology but maybe they have data
Speaker 3: that they sell, like maybe PFM.
Speaker 5: In the works that I have slight background on that.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to divulge further, but yeah, I was
Speaker 4: also surprised Mike Tannanbomb.
Speaker 3: They just can't quit this guy. We love, we love
Speaker 3: Mike t. We used to have him on the Old
Speaker 3: Around the NFL podcast. He's a two Lane graduate. I
Speaker 3: know Mike Tanner bombs. Oh he is, Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 3: he always He always liked to see another alumni of
Speaker 3: the college football playoff bound to Lane Green Wave Thanksgiving night.
Speaker 3: You know if if Giants Cowboys and getting it done
Speaker 3: for you. The only college football game on entire airwaves
Speaker 3: is two Lane versus.
Speaker 5: Memphis ranked where now, Greg.
Speaker 3: I think nineteenth, I think nineteenth.
Speaker 4: Ap top twenty five. Green Wave already securitive spot in
Speaker 4: the AAC Championship game.
Speaker 3: I am working on potentially going to that, but oh,
Speaker 3: get approve. We'll see. So Tannabaum runs this website with
Speaker 3: Rick Spielman, who is a former Vikings general manager, and
Speaker 3: his old boss Woody Johnson decides to hire them to
Speaker 3: help them in their hiring process, which I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: I just kind of expect Mike Tannabaum to be like, hey,
Speaker 3: I looked around and I found a pretty great idea.
Speaker 3: How about I'm the president and here's my GM underneath me? Like,
Speaker 3: would you like me to do that? Whatdy Johnson? Like,
Speaker 3: that's how this ends? Right?
Speaker 5: Look no more, I have your response.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's better than the Browns kicking the
Speaker 4: tires on Condolleza Rice.
Speaker 3: Okay, I this whole thing of like going to guys
Speaker 3: who've been out of the league for a decade, Like
Speaker 3: when was last time Bill Pollian came up with a
Speaker 3: good idea. I don't know. I like Mike tannenbaumb, but somehow,
Speaker 3: going back to what were the good old days for
Speaker 3: the Jets, Tannenbaum as a GM, they point out in
Speaker 3: the press release, led them to four winning seasons out
Speaker 3: of seven, which for the Jets is pretty miraculous and
Speaker 3: obviously was there the last time they made it to
Speaker 3: the playoffs. But I don't know can we come up
Speaker 3: with some new ideas New York Jets. Yeah. Anyways, Brandon
Speaker 3: Graham is out for the season with a torn triceps.
Speaker 3: This came out just minutes after we stopped taping on
Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football. What a bummer, because this dude was
Speaker 3: having one of the all time I'm just gonna put
Speaker 3: everything I can on the field for one last season
Speaker 3: at age thirty seven, the best he's played in years.
Speaker 3: Their best edge rusher this year flat out was Brandon
Speaker 3: Graham and now he's out for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3: So it's a sad story because he was expected to retire.
Speaker 3: He said he was going to retire and now he's
Speaker 3: maybe leaving it a little more open. But either way,
Speaker 3: disappointing for an Eagles team that needs an edgress presence.
Speaker 4: Frankly, yeah, and he looked good on Sunday Night again.
Speaker 4: But I have a feeling that saying this would be
Speaker 4: his last year was said with the whole bitter taste
Speaker 4: in his mouth of the way last year's season ended
Speaker 4: and now that they're experiencing success again. I mean, he's
Speaker 4: a bubbly guy, like, he's a guy that's easy to
Speaker 4: get along with. His teammates love him, He's still producing.
Speaker 4: Why not give it one more go if you can
Speaker 4: come back. You know, it's not like it's a knee injury.
Speaker 4: Trycups is still significant. It ended Joe Thomas' career, but
Speaker 4: I would love to see him give it one more go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was reading some reporting from Zach Berman of
Speaker 3: All PHO Y and some of the interpretation of that
Speaker 3: it just might be up to the Eagles front office too.
Speaker 3: It might have almost been in agreement with them, because
Speaker 3: you know, they keep bringing him back every year at
Speaker 3: a pretty good number. He's been there forever known as
Speaker 3: one of all time best leaders, energy, everything, and so
Speaker 3: it might be up to them too of how much
Speaker 3: do they want to pay him to bring him back?
Speaker 3: If they were interested, you would think they would be.
Speaker 3: But I just want to point out in case this
Speaker 3: is the last time we talked about I guess we'll
Speaker 3: know on retirement day that just he was a guy
Speaker 3: that for years was looked on as a disappointment and
Speaker 3: they stuck with him development and like his second contract
Speaker 3: was not a huge contract, and when they gave it
Speaker 3: to him, people were surprised, like really Brandon Graham and
Speaker 3: he just he had a lot of setbacks early in
Speaker 3: his career. It was a lot of pressure and not
Speaker 3: a lot of sex. And he just kept getting better
Speaker 3: and better and better. And it does show sometimes it
Speaker 3: doesn't pop for you right off the bat, even as
Speaker 3: a high draft pick. And he turned into an Eagle's legend,
Speaker 3: a guy who, by the way, strip sacked Tom Brady
Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl. I feel like that doesn't
Speaker 3: get mentioned enough. Like literally, he ended the Super Bowl
Speaker 3: with the strips of all time. It is kind of true,
Speaker 3: like like, give give him his props someone we're not
Speaker 3: giving props to. Serious story here in Los Angeles Monday morning,
Speaker 3: the wide receiver DeMarcus Robinson, who has been starting for
Speaker 3: the Rams, was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence,
Speaker 3: according to a California Highway Patrol release obtained by NFL media.
Speaker 3: Sean McVeigh is expected to address this on Tuesday. I
Speaker 3: don't know what to say about this when this happens,
Speaker 3: other than we'll see how the team handles it, how
Speaker 3: the NFL handles it right away, whether he'll stay on
Speaker 3: the field. But he has been on the field quite
Speaker 3: a bit most snaps and been very valuable for them
Speaker 3: in the red zone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when they didn't have Cooper Cup and Poop
Speaker 4: and a Coula. They were desperate for, you know, veteran
Speaker 4: assistance at receiver, and he stepped up and came through.
Speaker 4: Oftentimes it was him and you know, a ragtag crew
Speaker 4: of other guys, Jordan waitting from the rookie I think
Speaker 4: Tyler Johnson was in that group as well.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we'll see, we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 4: Luckily they have cup in Nicula back, even if the
Speaker 4: KUA might not be one hundred percent, but yeah, we'll
Speaker 4: track that.
Speaker 3: And then you know, it was like hours after the
Speaker 3: game and just yeah, take take your ruber. And I
Speaker 3: know sofvice far take your ruber. Some injury news, Brian
Speaker 3: Robinson has an ankle injury. Dan Quinn not sure if
Speaker 3: he'll be able to play this week. They'll see. Austin
Speaker 3: Eckler is in the concussion protocol after a brief trip
Speaker 3: to the hospital after which really worries you if the
Speaker 3: concussion sent him to the hospital. That was a really
Speaker 3: scary hit at the end of that Washington game. It's
Speaker 3: also the second time this season that he's been in
Speaker 3: the concussion protocol, so all the best to him. Jalen
Speaker 3: Petrie of the Texans is gonna miss multiple weeks with
Speaker 3: a pectoral injury. That's bad news for a secondary that
Speaker 3: did not really play that well against Tennessee. Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 3: is back to practicing and that's big news for Texans
Speaker 3: fans because Jaguars play Houston this week. Josh Downs is
Speaker 3: week to week with a shoulder injury. He played through
Speaker 3: that injury on Sunday, but it sounds like he's gonna
Speaker 3: be out at least a week and then eight and
Speaker 3: O'Connell might be starting a football game on an Island
Speaker 3: game and that is the Black Friday game. He is
Speaker 3: back at practice Nick, which would keep Desmond Ritter out
Speaker 3: of the starting lineup for the Raiders. You could address
Speaker 3: any single one of those injuries if you want, including
Speaker 3: the last one.
Speaker 5: AOC.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll start with Aidan O'Connell because I still think
Speaker 4: he gives them a better chance of victory against the
Speaker 4: Chiefs defense. Who's but that's who they're playing, by the way,
Speaker 4: then Desien Ritter would it's the quarterback situation. There's not
Speaker 4: good regardless, but he was going to be their starter
Speaker 4: until he got hurt and gardermanshe had to come back in.
Speaker 4: So they're just kind of figuring it out as they
Speaker 4: go because they're forced into this weird situation and they're
Speaker 4: a low ceiling team at this point.
Speaker 3: The lowest of ceilings. There's you know, what's the opposite
Speaker 3: of the ceiling is through the roof, like their ceiling
Speaker 3: is through the basement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Trevor practicing is encouraging because the Jaguars has been a
Speaker 4: bit of a tough tough watch without him, Mac Jones
Speaker 4: has not been a fun viewing experience and Josh downs,
Speaker 4: you know, with with the Colts in the situation, Threa
Speaker 4: in right now. You know, he's been one of the
Speaker 4: more reliable receivers. He was more productive with Joe Flackol
Speaker 4: than he was Anthony Richardson. But I would not be
Speaker 4: surprised if he does not play against the Patriots this
Speaker 4: week because they have a late buy coming right after that.
Speaker 4: Buying that extra week a time would make more sense
Speaker 4: for that final stretch run that starts by the way
Speaker 4: in Denver.
Speaker 3: Well it really starts in New England. They do not
Speaker 3: have much margin for error, but the way Houston looks
Speaker 3: right now and their upcoming open schedule, Like, if you
Speaker 3: can get to nine wins, Colts, can you get to
Speaker 3: nine wins? Can you win four more games? Like that?
Speaker 3: That might be enough. Man, the Texans would only need
Speaker 3: to win two more to get there. But it is
Speaker 3: not looking great for the Texans. You're you're bumming me out, Texans.
Speaker 3: Let's go to a place that makes me a little happier.
Speaker 3: It's time for the Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan.
Speaker 3: I'll go first this week. Let's mix it up, John
Speaker 3: gonna go. Leonard Williams of the Seattle Seahawks. I can't
Speaker 3: believe I didn't give him more pop after watching one
Speaker 3: of the best defensive performances by any player in any
Speaker 3: game all season. This game alone made that trade worth it,
Speaker 3: made that contract worth it. I think he's been a
Speaker 3: very good player for Seattle, but this was an Aaron
Speaker 3: Donald type of game where one defensive player just absolutely
Speaker 3: takes over nine quarterback pressures, three were under two and
Speaker 3: a half seconds, four quarterback hits, two and a half sacks,
Speaker 3: a pass defense, and that was despite getting double teams
Speaker 3: almost thirty percent of the time. That's mostly when he
Speaker 3: was on the inside, but he also played on the
Speaker 3: outside as their edge about half the time because they
Speaker 3: don't really have an edge there and they thought he
Speaker 3: could take advantage of that matchup. He was awesome. There
Speaker 3: were also plays where he was kind of pushing and
Speaker 3: collapsing and making Kyler flesh out the other way. I
Speaker 3: don't even know if he got a pressure on those plays.
Speaker 3: One man wrecked and crew. That Seattle defense is getting
Speaker 3: better and better. But Lenny Williams another guy where for
Speaker 3: a minute there was like, is this guy a little
Speaker 3: disappointing as a Jets draft pick? No, stick with your
Speaker 3: g guys who have talent and they could stick around
Speaker 3: and have a great long career. That's what Leonard Williams
Speaker 3: has done.
Speaker 5: I like that pick.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to the beginning of the week
Speaker 4: and we're gonna go back to the blizzard that occurred
Speaker 4: at the recently renamed Huntington Bank Field on the shore
Speaker 4: of Lake Erie.
Speaker 5: We're going for two weeks in a row with.
Speaker 4: Jamis Winston as a Maps Corner selection, and this time
Speaker 4: it's because of not only his performance, which statistically is even,
Speaker 4: but it's the clutch plays and it's the content that
Speaker 4: came from it. He comes into the press conference after
Speaker 4: leading the Browns to a thrilling win over the Steelers
Speaker 4: amid a snowstorm, and he says, it was like my
Speaker 4: NFL film's moment. I was squishing my feet through the snow.
Speaker 4: Everything was moving slow, and I dove in the end zone.
Speaker 4: And then sure enough, because they're doing hard knocks in
Speaker 4: the AFC North NFL Films produces, they're shot of it.
Speaker 5: Right after.
Speaker 4: I saw his micd up today and the Browns had
Speaker 4: posted the whole thing, and he was just super excited
Speaker 4: about playing the idea that it was snowing, the idea
Speaker 4: that he had another chance to play a game in
Speaker 4: the NFL, and he delivered like the Browns lost their
Speaker 4: lead in the blink of an eye and he was
Speaker 4: able to lead this drive as the snow was falling
Speaker 4: so hard you couldn't even see the stadium, and he
Speaker 4: gets the job done.
Speaker 5: So good job. Jameis Winston typically.
Speaker 3: Came, I made you happy. Tell me a little bit
Speaker 3: more about what that that was. Like. I know, I
Speaker 3: asked you quickly on Sunday. We didn't have a ton
Speaker 3: of time, like that that had to been a crazy
Speaker 3: viewing experience. Your picture, by the way, nice seats that
Speaker 3: Chooky had good night. Yeah, in that NFL Daily Money, well,
Speaker 3: it was absolutely cinematic.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful.
Speaker 4: It was you know, I've I've had some great sports
Speaker 4: viewing experiences of my life, including Super Bowls and everything else.
Speaker 4: I've been to a snow game in Cleveland back when
Speaker 4: they played the Bills amid another white out level conditions
Speaker 4: back in the day. But this one the flakes were thick.
Speaker 4: It was a wet snow. I was soaked. I was
Speaker 4: with my lifelong best friend, who you know, grew up
Speaker 4: a Browns fan, were surrounded by Steelers fans. We're having
Speaker 4: friendly discussions as the game progresses. The Browns are playing
Speaker 4: way above expectation. Nothing's working properly for either team in
Speaker 4: the snow just a thrilling environment. And there's something about
Speaker 4: being in a stadium at night when the snow is
Speaker 4: falling that lights up the whole stadium like a snow globe.
Speaker 4: And when the game is as thrilling as that one was,
Speaker 4: and it's not just like two field goals in a
Speaker 4: safety like it was against the Bills way back in
Speaker 4: the day for the Browns.
Speaker 5: There's just something special about it.
Speaker 4: You walk out of the stadium, You're like, man, that
Speaker 4: was a moment I'll never forget as somebody who just
Speaker 4: loves football.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. How are the Steelers fans when you won?
Speaker 3: Did you kind of stick it in their eye? A
Speaker 3: little dangerous?
Speaker 4: The guys behind me were from Columbus, so we commiserate
Speaker 4: over being Ohio State fans, and they were great. The
Speaker 4: people next to me not so great, but they exited quietly,
Speaker 4: so you know, that is what it is in the
Speaker 4: EFC door.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Glad to give you some good memories, get
Speaker 3: put you in a better mood. You know, there was
Speaker 3: some road rage conversation before the show. I'm not supposed
Speaker 3: to mention it as your friend and put you back
Speaker 3: in a bad place. So we want a happy Nick Chuck,
Speaker 3: Thanks buddy, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 4: This has been one heck of a Monday night, you know.
Speaker 4: And I'm not going to talk about that road rage
Speaker 4: incident because I have a long views and I well
Speaker 4: you are you.
Speaker 3: You are a pretty chill guy, but you would be
Speaker 3: one of the last people I know that I would
Speaker 3: want to instigate again. Yeah, in a road rage incident
Speaker 3: or even right now, so all shut up. That was
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Speaker 3: Please drink responsibly. That's it for this NFL Daily. We
Speaker 3: will be back on Tuesday with Colleen Wolf and Jordan Rodrigue.
Speaker 3: As I mentioned, the schedule a little bit different. Today
Speaker 3: we are previewing all the Thanksgiving games with Colleen and Jordan.
Speaker 3: We'll do the rest of the preview the following day.
Speaker 3: We got the Black Friday game as well, two great
Speaker 3: quarterbacks tonight. Look when the next game is on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 3: this bitbit might be over because, without a shred of
Speaker 3: a doubt, football was backh