1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. What up? What's you? Doug Gottlie? Rob Parker 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: in for Dan and the Dan F. Dan Patrick Show 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Kind of a good all right, we're 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: getting close telling the water football season sort of weekend 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: we had over the last four days. We have every 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: team in the National Football League put on helmets, put 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: on shoulder pads. Haven't seen every player right. A lot 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: to get to though, and so while we saw some 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: of the ones, we didn't see all the ones. We 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: did see the rookie quarterbacks. And that's where we'll begin. Rob, 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: We'll have Warren Sharp Pool who will join us part 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: of Sharp Football. Well, get his thoughts on these rookie quarterbacks. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: But like, look, this is a it's like a yearly thing. 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: We get super super hype over watching these guys play 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: against very limited in terms of schematics defenses. Was there 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: a guy, and there's plenty of young quarterbacks from you know, 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: from a Mac Jones to a Trevor Lawrence and to 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: a Trey Lance to adjustin fields, was there one that 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: jumped out at you? Let me let me let's start 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: here real quick, and we're talking about a young quarterback, 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: Jordan Love who got hurt, nothing serious, but right, he's 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: gonna miss some work probably this week. Doug Um is 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: if he were ready, if they really believed like he 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: was ready, and I guess he had kind of what 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: one one really good drive and five or six not 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: that great drives, right, Just so, so if he was 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: ready or they felt like he was going to be 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: that guy, do you think Aaron Rodgers would still be there? Yes, Okay, 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm asking well, no, I mean, like 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: listen that when when he was taken, it was at 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: the you know, it was at basically the perfect time, right, 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: He's a developed mental quarterback. Remember he only started two 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: years in college UTAs State. His first year is very good. 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Second year they had a coaching change. They weren't very good, 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: and he wasn't very good either. It was more about 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: talent potential upside and if people remember back the days 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, he was a guy that 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: people were like, you know, this guy could go in 40 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: the top ten. Maybe he'll go higher than we think. 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: And so I don't know if he fell, but he 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: was gonna go late first. And that's why the Green 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Bay Packers moved up and took him, and the plan 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: was like, hey, he's two or three years away from 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: being ready. That would be on track with when they 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: can get out of the Aaron Rodgers deal. And if 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: we go back, it's Aaron Rodgers coming off of a 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: bit of a disappointing season two years ago. But Aaron 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: Rodgers balled out last year and was the MVP of 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: the league. They're not getting rid of. You're not getting 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: rid of the MVP of the league. No, I get it. 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm just curious as to you know where he was. 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Did you get to watch most of him? Jordan Love? No? No, 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm like all my information on Jordan Love just comes 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: from tucking NFL guys, like nobody watched him in Utah State. 56 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Like I love the Aggies, I like the Mountain West, 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: and I've covered it for years. But I can't say 58 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: I sat down and goes like, oh, Jordan Love, let 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: me let me break down this this prospect. No, I can't. 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: I can't say that they did. So who impressed you 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the most? Uh? I think Fields? I think Look, I 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: think do you think Fields should be the starter? From 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: day one? You already know what Andy Dalton is he's 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: not gonna get you there? Should you? Just? You know, 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: buck uh, go with the trend of of today's NFL, 66 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: which is put the guy in. Just just play the guy. 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: He's only gonna learn how to play by playing. Where 68 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: years ago maybe guys came along a little slower. It 69 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be like that's the model. So why 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: not if you think he's that guy, just play him 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: and make Andy Dalton the backup? Um, I think he can't. 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: I think there just has to be a level where 73 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: you think he's like, he's competent enough, he has enough 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: knowledge where you're not gonna over you know you can. 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: You can set a guy back, right, I mean we 76 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: just got we just got done talking to Matt Hayes 77 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: of of from Jacksonville. Okay, and I mean Jacksonville went 78 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: through this entire same scenario. I don't know it was 79 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: six seven years ago. You draft a guy you don't 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: have high expectation to play the first year, he plays 81 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: good in the preseason and then he end up seeing 82 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: to stick him in there? Did you stick him in 83 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: there too early? And then all of a sudden, now 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: he develops bad habits, right or he or a guy 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: loses his confidence, right, like or Sam Donald. You have 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: to play him, but you're playing him behind an offensive 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: line and with skill possession players aren't good enough and 88 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: so you don't get a chance to to understand all 89 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: the things you're seeing. I thought, justin Field saying that 90 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: the game was a little bit slower than he thought. 91 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Now he did couch you with like, hey, look, the 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: defense I play against is a lot faster than the 93 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: defense we played against. UM. I would have told you 94 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: if you if you if I went back, if you 95 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: went back three six months ago. Even the Bears guys 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: were like, let's just we're planning on sitting him, planning 97 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: on letting Dalton play. But the guy's got freaks. There's 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: a reason he was the number one recruit. There's a reason. 99 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: And I knew, I know that you're throwing to open 100 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: guys at Ohio State, and he wasn't as good when 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: guys recovered this year's at Ohio State. But he does 102 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: seem to have a little bit that it factor the Bears. 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: The Bears. The problem with the Bears is they've they've 104 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: actually been pretty good. Like the example is, do you 105 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: know that the record of the last three years is 106 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: the exact same as Indianapolis Colts, and they've had similar 107 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: success in the playoffs Indianapolis Colts. Yet people have this 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: assumption that the Colts are so much better off than 109 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: the Bears are, right, And I would have said that myself, 110 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: just right, you know what, I'm looking at the data 111 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: or the games, you know what I mean? Yes, definitely 112 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: would have felt that. Okay. So so, like the problem 113 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: with Trubisky was like everybody lacked confidently, like oh boy, 114 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: here comes the offense again. And I kind of think 115 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: you have that with Dalton, Like he can do all 116 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: this stuff and he's fine, and he's won, he's been 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs and whatever. But this guy gives you a jolt. 118 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: And if you can use that jolt to trigger that defense, 119 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: which is the real strength of this team, Like I 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: actually think there's something there. It's not crazy to think 121 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: they can be the second best team in that division 122 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: if they get more than competent quarterback play and occasionally 123 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: he can make a play just upon his raw talent, 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: and they can they can scheme up around him. So 125 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: in this particular instance, I'm leaning more towards justin fields 126 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: considering how well he's played and how everybody said, like 127 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: he's taken a gigantic leap now that they're they're in 128 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: live action, Okay, So that that would be in that 129 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: particular case, that's where I would lead. And that makes 130 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: sense because when you have a defense, it doesn't you 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: don't have to put up forty points to win a game, right. 132 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean in that that that it's not like what 133 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: uh Lawrence might have to do or or Zach Wilson 134 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: or somebody else. It will be definitely a difference. So 135 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: I understand that. And the other part is I don't know. 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: At some point we saw it with uh, what's his 137 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: name was with the Dolphins. I just forgot the Ryan Fitzpatrick. 138 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: You know, we kind of know who he is, and 139 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: you wonder about wasting snaps on a guy like that, 140 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: and you just say to yourself, do you really want 141 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: to waste snaps on Andy Dalton when you know who 142 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: he is as well? And the upside it is on 143 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: fields is way bigger? And how long is that defense going? 144 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's over next you know, this season, 145 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: but how long are you gonna wait on it? You 146 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean? If you have a quarterback, would 147 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: you believe in why not just put him in, let 148 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: him learn and go and go from there. You know, 149 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: if when people look back at Russell Wilson, now, remember 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: when Russell Wilson came out, he was twenty four years old, right, 151 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: he had played four years, he had he transferred and 152 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: played right away at Wisconsin. But he was he was older. 153 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: It's twenty four much older than Jon Fields. But when 154 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson his first year with the Seattle Seahawks, they 155 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: win eleven games. He threw for less than two hundred 156 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: yards I think nine times. Oh yeah, no, no, no no, 157 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: that team was not about the quarterback. No and again. 158 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: And please don't think I'm telling you that he that 159 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is Russell Wilson. Not. I'm not saying that 160 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is Tom Brady. But to those of us 161 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: who lived in the start of the Tom Brady era, 162 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: when they went to the Super Bowl, it was not 163 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: about Tom Brady, not even close to being about thank 164 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: you hello? Is this microphone on? Hello? Thank you Doug? 165 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: Because most people believe it was about Tom Brady and 166 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't about Tom Brady. Was about the defense and 167 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Adam Vnetarry the best kicker in NFL history, and that's 168 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: how they used to win games. No, No, his first, 169 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: his first super Bowl, he absolutely just managed. He managed 170 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: the game. He had one huge drive in the Super Bowl. 171 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: How many touchdowns did he throw in the entire playoffs? 172 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: Is first the first year they won a super Bowl? Yeah, 173 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're gonna say he was one. Yes, Okay, 174 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: there you go, so right. I mean, like, look, you 175 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: can diminish. You can be the guy who wants to 176 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: diminish the fact that nine other super Bowls, six super Bowls, 177 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: Like you superant to be that guy, Like, I think 178 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: we have enough data to prove to us that Tom 179 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: Brady super Bowl against the Rams? How many touchdowns are 180 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: you throwing that one? Did they win the game? No? 181 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm asking I thought, Robert, if Robert you're you're you're 182 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna do the thing, like if you want to 183 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: do the thing, or you go like, hey, Tom Brady, 184 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: isn't it sucks that we can do that? You can 185 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: be the guy on the island. I'm I'm trying to 186 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: say that you can win with a quarter a young 187 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: quarterback who just manages it. And here's two star quarterbacks 188 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: that early in their careers. Just manage the game. If 189 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: you want to do the Brady thing, that's fine, Like 190 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: we can, we can do it again. We are. I 191 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: just I have nine other super Bowls to point out 192 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: that that the guy is affects winning more so than 193 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: any quarterback we've ever had. Does that Does that mean 194 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: he has the best skill set of any quarterback? Like? No, 195 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: but you can be that guy if you would like. 196 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: But I the success of time. I could also give 197 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: you the flip side on the Patriots defense and what 198 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: they did in second halfs of Super Bowls that even 199 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: gave him the opportunity when they shut the other teams 200 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: down where they didn't give up any I mean, it's 201 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: unbelievable on how good the defense has been during the time, 202 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. And even this past year when 203 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: they went in Tampa Tom played fine, but they had 204 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: a defense in Tampa Bay that stopped Patrick Mahomes from 205 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: scoring any points in the Super Bowl, zero points in 206 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And yet the story was all about 207 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Patrick Mahomes is supposed to be the next 208 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: coming of As as Chris Bussard would always say, he's 209 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: Jordan esque. That was his take on Patrick Mahomes and 210 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: that guy scored no points in the Super Bowl. That's 211 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: all I'm saying, Doug, Well, I mean it was a 212 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: lot like he didn't have they had. They're missing four 213 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: offensive linemen against whatever it is. He didn't get any 214 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: points then whatever in position to score. No, it's a 215 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: complete domination. I'm not I'm not I'm not not not 216 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: arguing that right. It just but they were. They were 217 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: completely and thoroughly dominated in that game. Hey, but again, 218 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: like we're we're moving the goal post here. If you 219 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: don't think that Tom Brady, Now, if you don't think look, 220 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: if you don't think Tom Brady affects winning or affects 221 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: the defense, and that gives them not as much as 222 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: that he's given credit, is my point. I'm not saying 223 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: he's not. He's a great player, a Hall of Famer, 224 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: He's won a ton, and he's been very lucky as 225 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: well along the way. That that's all I believe you said. 226 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: He's the luckiest of all time. The loads, he is 227 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: the load, not the goat. In my eyes, Joe Montana 228 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: is the goat. Parker that they didn't have a dynamic defense, 229 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: he didn't play with the greatest wide receiver of all 230 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: time he didn't play for. He won two Super Bowls 231 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: with with Jerry Rice, two without. He was the super 232 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: Bowl eleven touchdowns, no picks. He won three m vps 233 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: dug and two of the four Super Bowls he needed 234 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: a touchdown to win the game, not Adam Vnetarry kicking 235 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: an eighty nine yard field goal to win the game. 236 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: That's how good Joe Montana was. That's all. I love 237 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: Joe Montana, and I'm with you if we want to 238 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: make the real argument about is Joe Montana the greatest 239 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: of all the time? Is Tom Brady the greatest of 240 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: all time? Like it's it's great, like and I could 241 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: and and people forget, people forgotten about Brett Farve. I 242 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: think he's in that conversation. I think Aaron Rodgers in 243 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: that conversation. I think Peyton Manning has been in that conversation. Personally, 244 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: I love Montana would be more my guy. But again, 245 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: you're diminishing of Tom Brady and what he's been able 246 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: to do is is at some point he gets to 247 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: be like, dude, he's been the ten like, let's stop. 248 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: And he didn't. He got hurt before the what would 249 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: have been the best the best team that ever played 250 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: with right, they went eighteen to o, losing the Super 251 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Bowl because the offensive line camp block? Right? Oh? Is 252 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: that what happened? Is that? Why? Is that why they lost? All? 253 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: Because he lost? He also lost to Eli Manning twice 254 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. And if you remember his offense 255 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: because the defensive line from this and what was the 256 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: game where where he overthrew? Was that woker or or 257 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: was that remember that welco him in the him in 258 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: the hands walker? But it wasn't a great brown did 259 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: hit him in that spot? If you'd like me to 260 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: send you the video clip it did his I would 261 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: didn't wait. It didn't hit his hands after he did 262 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: a twister move. It hit his hands? And did it 263 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: hit him in his hands? Nobody's a bigger Tom Brady 264 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: guy than Skip Bayless. Skip Bayless and I were on 265 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: First Take the Monday after the Super Bowl, and even 266 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: Skip Bayless, who idolizes and praises and loves Tom Brady, 267 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: said it wasn't a good throw because it wasn't a 268 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: guy who's supposed to be the goat, the greatest player 269 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: go the greatest of all time, would have made a 270 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: better throw to a wide open receiver which would have 271 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: sealed that Super Bowl, and he didn't make it. Look 272 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: it's fair. It wasn't a good wasn't It wasn't a 273 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: great throw. The story of those two Super Bowls, if 274 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: we're if we're fair, Okay, if we're fair, the story 275 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: of those two Super Bowls was the dynamic defensive line 276 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: of the New York Giants, Okay, and how they got 277 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: they got after him. That's that's really kind of what 278 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: it what it comes down to. And can you give 279 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: Eli Manning credit that he made the most unbelievable throws. 280 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: The throw to Manningham might be the greatest throw I 281 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: ever saw on a Super Bowl. Stop, come on, the 282 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: greatest throw you've ever seen. It was a great throat, 283 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: the greatest though you've ever seen a Super Bowl One off, bro, Bro, 284 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: come on, come on, Bob Parker, come on. R right, 285 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: the David Tyree run one when he was in the 286 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: grass when he catches against his helmet, like, okay, this 287 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: is where everybody does. So Tom Brady is lucky. But 288 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: we've only seen one helmet catch in the history of 289 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and Eli Manning his clutch like head 290 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: with all sports talk show hosts like you, Doug make 291 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: the mistake, and they go to the David Tye, David Tyweed, 292 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: that was lucky? What about that? Did that? Did that 293 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: win the game? Did that win? Did that play win? 294 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Get sacked if he gets sacked? No, did that playin 295 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: the game. No, No one play wins a game. Okay, 296 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: So what happened is after making that play and avoiding 297 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: the sack and making the throw and getting the ball off, 298 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: he still had to find Plasico Burrows in the end 299 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: zone eventually to win the game. So he didn't win 300 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: the game on that play. Like he just threw it 301 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: up and and and David making he did throw it. 302 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: He did just throw it up. He did just jump up. 303 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: He did catch against his helmet. It was lucky. No 304 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: one's arguing that. You're the only one saying it said 305 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: gonna win the game. My point is simply like, like 306 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: therein lies the difference, right, Tom Brady throws throws, throws 307 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: the ball again, I know it's a different game. Throws 308 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: the ball, hits Us Walker in the hands, tough catch, 309 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: no question, he doesn't make the catch. Eli Manning throws 310 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: the one up for grabs after nearly getting sacked. Okay, 311 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: David Tyree catch against his helmet. One guy's lucky, one 312 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: guy's not. But you're pointing out that Tom Brady is 313 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: the luckiest of all time. That actually goes counter to 314 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: your argument right a matter of fact, it destroys your argument. 315 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: But that's okay. The bigger part is, like, you're if 316 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna, if you're gonna pick apart the things he 317 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: didn't do in the Super Bowl. And again, I'm not 318 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: even a Tom Brady guy, but i will tell you 319 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: they're down twenty eight to three to the Atlanta Falcons. 320 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: I tucked my kids in and I was like, guys, sorry, 321 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: Patriots lost this year. And then I watched the greatest 322 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: comeback in the history of the Super Bowl. It was 323 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: authored by the same Thomas Edward Patrick Brady wasn't It 324 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: was about the defense. Are you kidding me? And it 325 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: was a terrible coaching job by Shanahan? Are you that's 326 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: why Tom Brady coach? Coach the I'm talking about offense. 327 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: They're the dog, they're on the twenty two yard line, 328 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: they're in field goal at the twenty two I'm with 329 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Nobody blows the game. Nobody wins the game, 330 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: and that the other guy blowing a game. I got it, Okay, 331 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: did tom Brady? Tom Brady was was terrible, was under 332 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: the rest, was bad for two and a half to 333 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: three quarters of that game. Okay, against Atlanta Falcons. But 334 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: in order to come back from twenty eight to three, 335 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: they had touchdown drive of touchdown drive, a touchdown drive 336 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: of touchdown drive. Tom Brady was the quarterback correct right 337 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: even on the even if you want to go to 338 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: the play they made against Seattle right where Malcolm Malcolm 339 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: Butler right had had the interception right lost and it 340 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: was the drive before tom Brady gets the ball against 341 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: one of the most dynamic defenses we've seen the last 342 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: twenty years. In the Legion of Boom, marches down the 343 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: football field and scores, even when they lost the Philadelphi Eagles, 344 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: where he made a bad read on his last throw, 345 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: like they didn't punt the entire time the entire game. 346 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: Again him was on the line. I like the way 347 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: you pooh pooh that he coughed up the football at 348 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: the end of the game, which was the difference. Okay, 349 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: but like didn't they have like six hundred yards offense, 350 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: Like blame tom Brady for for Stephen gust back in 351 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: that game? Who was the better quarterback? Who played better? 352 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: I would that's a hard one, became is? I mean 353 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Foles played. Foles played well every throw in that game 354 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: that he needed to make. He played like tom Brady 355 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: had better stats, but Foles played. The Patriots defense was awful, right, 356 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: it was awful. Like, let's just kind of call it 357 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: like it is. It was. It was bad. But like, look, 358 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want to sit here 359 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: and defame tom Brady, like yes, you are, you are, 360 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: You're You're coming up with with with a reason, not excuse, 361 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: a reason why Tom Brady is lucky and massively overrated. 362 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: And I'm like, look, if we had a small sample size, 363 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: that'd be cool. We have a huge sample size. And 364 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, after the greatest regular season 365 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: that we have seen in our lifetime, sixteen and Ozero 366 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: and they lose in a close game in the Super Bowl, 367 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: that whole team comes back the next year and he 368 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: gets hurt, like we didn't even we were almost robbed 369 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: of the prime of Tom Brady because he had an 370 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: ACL injury and he can't the next year you're coming 371 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: back and at the end of his where did they 372 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: go eleven? And what do you eleven? Even five without Brady? 373 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Do you remember that without Brady? Yeah? Okay, yeah, they 374 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: won six They really they really went down the tank 375 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: the tubes without Tom Brady's Rob they went up sixteen 376 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: and oh the year before, okay, but they go eleven 377 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: and five. Eleven games in the NFL is nothing is 378 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: nothing to poo poo dog. You know, they were a 379 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: very good team. They're the best team in the league. 380 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: They just didn't have their quarterback, and that's why they 381 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: had five fewer wins the following season. Then they had 382 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: the season with him. Right, if a team wins, if 383 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: they had won twelve games and then they win seven 384 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: games the next year, you'd be like, wow, that's a 385 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: massive drop offf Well, they won sixteen games and they 386 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: win eleven. It's the exact same drop off. Rob. It's 387 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: it's it's just you're you're fascinated by the number eleven, 388 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: five fewer wins. You're not going to wait sixteen games 389 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: every year. That was a once in a lifetime. Come on, 390 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: you're you're right. He had double digit wins every season, 391 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: but won as a starting quarterback the AFC least every year. 392 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: So so don't don't pat Tom Brady on the back 393 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: for beating up also rans in the AFC least his 394 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: entire career. Okay, the thing's got fiery in the stands 395 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: and so fi this weekend? Right, another another, another, another 396 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: video moment where we can be embarrassed as America's sports fans. 397 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: But how did the firepower translate the Rams and the 398 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: chargers on the field this year? 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Find your 408 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports 409 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 410 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R Doug Gottlieb, 411 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: Rob Parker in for Dan and the Dan Nets here 412 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: in the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so 413 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: let me um, let me ask you this Rob two 414 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in LA and look, everyone's talking about the fight, 415 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: and did you have you seen the fight in the 416 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: stands at so Far Stadium? I saw it. It was 417 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: crazy And you know what, I would have been fighting 418 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: mad too if if my nine dollars PEPSI got thrown around, 419 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yes, but that's what's so 420 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: what So the fight we're talking about, which you can 421 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: you can you can pretty much see everywhere right is 422 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: there's a huge dude with the Rams Aaron Donald Rams 423 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: Jersey the Ramon Ram four fight. Because he's there pointing 424 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: at two or three other guys. You know, I mean, 425 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: it was a smart guy right there who I don't 426 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: know if it was his girlfriend a wife. Did you 427 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: see it, Doug? Where he gets her immediately out the 428 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: way like like this is brewing like this you could 429 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: see what's going to happen here. But the guy looked 430 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: like he was looking for a fight, Yes, but then 431 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: he was it appeared that it was he was being 432 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: pulled away and then from the back into the left, 433 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: a woman who's like two rows back picks up a 434 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: pepsi cup, you know, and at so far, I'm guessing 435 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: that's like ten dollars pepsi, That's what I'm saying, and 436 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: throws it, throws it in a dude. Doesn't look like 437 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: it was even hers. She throws it a dude and 438 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: the guy haddens back to him and he goes run 439 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: our test right, get hit, gets hit with a cup 440 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: and then he he he tried to three three stude 441 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: slap him? Did you say that he went right? Which 442 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: he did? He got it a couple of looks and 443 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: then he got and then he got whooped. Then he 444 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: got jumped by like four dudes. He got pushed into 445 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: the into the row. But the bigger stand, why why 446 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: are you attacking four people? Like, seriously, dog, what what 447 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: am I missing? Do you have a He got hit 448 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: with a cup and he probably didn't know he got 449 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: hit with a cup, you know, Tempers running hot, like 450 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know why any 451 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: were getting are getting a fight at a football game. 452 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: I just I've I've never been to that, you know, 453 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: like I've never been to that point where I have 454 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: any sort of you know, dudes are rude and saying 455 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: obnoxious stuff. I'm with you, yeah, going to a ball 456 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: game to get beat up. Well, that guy obviously looked 457 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: like he thought he you know, he was the biggest 458 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: dude on the block, and that's that's all good. But 459 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: when you're sideways and there's four other dudes whooping on you, 460 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty hard. Um. The bigger thing is though, 461 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: that the woman does that. She's like the cup throward 462 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: from the did you see the Mouse of the Palace documentary? 463 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: H that's coming out. I actually missed that game. Of 464 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: all that, I went to every single Pitstons game for 465 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: about the home game, especially for about seven years six 466 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: seven years, and I had a speaking engagement that night. 467 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: It was a Friday night, and I was going to 468 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: drive up to the Palace after the engagement to catch 469 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: the second half. And the problem was, as I was 470 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: driving for the event to get on the freeway to 471 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: go to the Palace, which you know was thirty miles 472 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: outside of Detroit, I have to pass my apartment. I 473 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: get in the car, I turn on the radio and 474 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: the Pistons are down fifteen points, and I'm like, do 475 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: I really want to drive thirty miles to this game? 476 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Right when there's no game going on as a blowout 477 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: and my apartment is right here to the left. All 478 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: I have to do is turn in the left and 479 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: I'm home. So I turned left, and so I missed it. 480 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: It's okay. I mean, my greatest miss is do you 481 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: remember the kick six Auburn and Alabama? Yes? And how 482 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: many years ago this is? So it's I think it 483 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: was two thousand thirteen ish Iron Bowl? Right. So I 484 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: have a I have a dear friend who is a 485 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: huge Mike Harston is a huge alum and supporter of 486 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Auburn football. He has a box at the games, and 487 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: he was like, bro, you gotta come. And I had 488 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: a game the next day. I had had a college 489 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: basketball game for for CBS and I still have he 490 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: took a picture. I put it out on social media. 491 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: I had he had he had a ticket waiting for 492 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: me for the box, and I was gonna fly to 493 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta overnight drive and go to the game and then 494 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: go to my basketball game. And CBS is like, you know, 495 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: we'd like you to get there the day before, just 496 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: to be safe and so I watched the entire game 497 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: at LAX and I'm sitting there going like, all right, 498 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: I miss but Auburn's gonna lose. I'm not sure I 499 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: want to be when they lose. Anyway, it's a great 500 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: football game. And then that happens, right, And so that's 501 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: that's the greatest miss of my of my of my fandom. 502 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Warren Sharp joints as sharp football analysis fall m on 503 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: social media at Warren Sharp. Warren, do you do you 504 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: have a story? It's a game you were you were 505 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: supposed to go to, but for whatever, he just like, ah, whatever, 506 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: you didn't go to and it ended up becoming an 507 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: all timer. No, I don't think so. I you know, 508 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit opposite. I like to work and 509 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm preparing my bankroll, I'm betting on these games, and 510 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: so I prefer to just stay home in the era 511 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: of HD and watch all these games. So now I 512 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: can't say that there's been one that falls into that 513 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: category from Laren. I'm sorry. I hear the HD, I 514 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: hear the sixty seventy screen, but there's nothing I hate 515 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: to break it to you, there's nothing like being at 516 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: a ball game. Because as good as the picture is 517 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: and all the angles and all that, it's just not 518 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: the same. Oh, I don't doubt that. Look when we're 519 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: talking about I'm I'm an NFL guy, So I'm sold 520 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean, maybe I could go to 521 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: a basketball game out of season something like that. But 522 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: if we're talking football, right, I've had some great experiences 523 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: in college you know, college football that that atmosphere is crazy, 524 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: But we're talking to NFL football here. There's just nothing 525 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: that could get me. You could. You could give me 526 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: free tickets to a box on a Monday night game, 527 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: and I probably say I'd rather watch the game from home, live, 528 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: bet it and track data while I'm doing so. And 529 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: and forget about Sunday. With all the games that are 530 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: going on on Sunday, I've got to be in, you know, 531 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: in my bunker watching all these games, no question me, 532 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: no questions. Better to watch it at home. We were 533 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: just talking about one on I love to go to 534 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: the game, yes, But the problem with the NFL games is, 535 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: with the exception of the Sunday night and the Monday, 536 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: you do feel like you're missing You're you're missing up, 537 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: you're missing highlights is called you could watch doesn't tell 538 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't tell the story right, or let's get I've 539 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: never seen the red zone. I've never you know what 540 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: I watched one for. I've never seen the red zone. 541 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. Okay, I watched 542 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: one arguably the greatest channel I watched because I want 543 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: to watch the game defense and offense. I want to 544 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: watch the game. We'll see. When you're talking, Rob, when 545 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about highlights, that's what the red Zone channel is. 546 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: The red zone channels all about highlights, is giving you 547 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: all the plays that happen when the team's close to scoring. 548 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: I know I hear you, Doug that you love that channel. 549 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: I absolutely detest that channel because I don't know what's 550 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: happening in the rest of the game. And if I'm 551 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: going to be prognosticating these games, I have to watch 552 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: all of the plays that lead up to a team 553 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: getting into the red zone, not just the plays when 554 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: they're posed to scoring. So I do not even watch 555 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: the red Zone channel. I'm sitting here with eight nine 556 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: TVs on at once, watching all of the games unfold 557 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: at the same time. Okay, Well, I would offer some 558 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: sort of hybrid if I were to devise, and what 559 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: I always do at my house is you have to 560 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: have you got to have two screens. And I think 561 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: the red zone is great because it shows you what's 562 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: happening and it bounces around game to game, and then 563 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: you can have another screen or two other screens whatever 564 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: where you can sit in and you can watch actual 565 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: drives in actual football. I think the seven or eight 566 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: it sounds good in practice, the reality of it's really 567 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: really hard. I've sat in studios for years watching games. 568 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: Really hard to really mentally focus in on that many games. 569 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: And I know, Warren, something you've done. You're talking about 570 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: the data. Let's get to the actual data. How useful? 571 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: How useful is the data from week one of the 572 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: preseason in terms of the young court, any of these 573 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and what they're likely to do in the season. Yeah, look, 574 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean these coaches are just trying to get the 575 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks comfortable and to see what they've got. I think 576 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are looking at Justin Fields 577 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: les draw out one name for example, and with regard 578 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: to Justin Fields, you know, his first couple of drives 579 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: didn't look that great, and then he looked like he 580 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: settled in. But here's the thing that I would encourage 581 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: people to go back and study where he started those 582 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: first drives from. He was inside his twenty yard line 583 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: and all three of those drives, and I can tell 584 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: you it almost doesn't matter the coach. Coaches are going 585 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 1: to call things a little bit more conservatively and use 586 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: different types of plays when a team is backed up 587 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: inside their own twenty yard on, let alone with a 588 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback getting his first NFL action. So I think 589 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: you need to tone down the fact that you know 590 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna ding justin fields a little bit for what 591 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: he was doing in the beginning of that game, but 592 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: for the rest of these guys. Look, I definitely think 593 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: there's things to be taken away from these preseason games, 594 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: but you don't want to make sweeping judgments about anybody 595 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: you're writing them off. I think Trey Lance has massive upside, 596 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: But what I think is great about how he fits 597 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: into the San Francisco offense to me, at least, is 598 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: that he is going to raise that team ceiling when 599 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: they need that ceiling raised for the postseason. You don't 600 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: need him coming in there week one, week two. In 601 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: the early part of the season what the forty nine 602 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: ers need is a high floor, and that's what Jimmy 603 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: G gives you. So I really do not want the 604 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: forty nine ers to move Jimmy G. I want Jimmy 605 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: G to stay there. I want him to start the season. 606 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: I want that floor to be really high. As this 607 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: team racks off win after win after win, incorporate Trey 608 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: Lance a little bit, and then turn the reins over 609 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: to him at some point in the season when you 610 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: need to raise your ceiling, which is stuff that Jimmy 611 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: G can't really do. Is Zach Wilson doomed with the Jets? 612 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: Nobody seems to be able to get anything going with 613 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: that organization, a team I grew up with. I used 614 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: to go to Shape Stadium as a kid to watch 615 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: them play. But or is he going to be the 616 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: guy to finally get this franchise turned around. It's a 617 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: great question. I think they're absolutely in the headed in 618 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: the right direction with him. I don't know again, where 619 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: his ceiling necessarily is, because I did have a few 620 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: more questions about him coming out of BYU. But what 621 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: I can tell you is this, the ceiling is very high. 622 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: Without Adam Gaze, there I don't think we're prepared to 623 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: process yet mentally, how much better this offense is going 624 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: to be now that Adam Gaze isn't calling plays. You 625 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: also have Joe Douglas going out there and prioritizing drafting 626 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. He's on that for the last two years 627 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: with his first you know, top picks in the draft. 628 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: This year he got Elijah Vera Tucker. Last year he 629 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: picked an offensive lineman with his first overall pick of 630 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: the draft. They are going to be able to protect 631 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, and I think this division is a little 632 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: bit more wide open after Buffalo than some people think. 633 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: I kind of like Miami here, but it wouldn't surprise 634 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: me if the New York Jets are able to exceed 635 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: their six win total this season. Although this is not 636 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: kind of like the year, we're expecting them to do 637 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: a whole lot. This is a rebuilding process. We need 638 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: to give them patients as an organization. But I think 639 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: that they are headed in the right direction. Okay, so, 640 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: aside from the fisticuffs in the stands, both the Rams 641 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: and the Chargers feel really good about having quarterbacks who 642 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: can make every throw and every play. What do you 643 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: think about Stafford and the addition of his arm, his 644 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: mentality to Sean mcvay's offense, well, it's hard not to 645 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: say that it's a clear upgrade over Jared Goff. At 646 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: the same time, I'm trying to pump my brakes a 647 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: little bit because it seems like the hype train is 648 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: getting a little bit off the rails with the La Rams, 649 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: and it's just the team that everybody's talking about, the 650 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: team that everybody's betting on, and at this point in time, 651 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: all the bookmakers are basically going to be rooting against 652 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: the Rams. There's been so many futures taken out for 653 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: them to win the NFC West, for them to win 654 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, that it's like the bookmakers really need 655 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: this team to kind of stumble a little bit. And 656 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: for that reason, I don't want to be betting with 657 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: the public. I want to be betting with the bookmakers. 658 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: I took the forty nine ers to exceed their win total. 659 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm betting on the forty nine ers a little bit 660 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: more than I think the public is doing this year 661 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: with the hype on the Rams. I think they're better, 662 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: but they did lose a number of coaches and players 663 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football, and I think 664 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: this team, although great when you just map out who 665 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: they're starters, sore do have a little bit of depth 666 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: concerns on both sides of the football, and in a 667 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: seventeen game season, that type of thing could end up 668 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: costing this team by the time we reach December in January, 669 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting. I can't wait to see. 670 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, everybody, Stafford is the messiah here in Los Angeles, 671 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: so we'll wait and see. Never won a division, never 672 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: won a playoff game twelve years. I saw the guy 673 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: play up front from day one of his career, and 674 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: I think that Sean McVay and the Rams, good luck 675 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: getting to the super Bowl with him. Well, they got 676 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with Jared Goff. One last one, real quick, Warren. 677 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: The Saints have a big decision. Obviously they're not gonna 678 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: have Michael Thomas, so you're losing your own ast dynamic 679 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver as a playmaker. Obviously you have an incredible 680 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: weapon as a hybrid running back end wide receiver. But 681 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: it's only one preseason game in what's your sense of 682 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: what they'll do at quarterback between Taysom Hill and Jamis Well. 683 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: I think number one. I really respect Sean Payton, but 684 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: if we're going to be realistic here, the only way 685 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: to look in my opinion is Jamis Winston. Taysom Hill 686 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: is not the type of guy that's going to be 687 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: your every down leaders as a quarterback and be able 688 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: to have the entire playbook open to him to execute 689 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: redefenses correctly, get the ball out on time and accurately. 690 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: It's just not going to work in my opinion right now. 691 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: And I respect John Payton a lot, so A I 692 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: think that Jamis Winston's going to win that job. But 693 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: B I do think that they probably are going to 694 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: utilize a lot of Taysom Hill, and especially maybe early 695 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: on in the season. And for that reason, I think 696 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: that the Saints are going to struggle some this season 697 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: because it's going to go too much. It's going to 698 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 1: be thought too much about how well Drew Brees maintained 699 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: efficiency on early downs passing the football. This team had 700 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: a very high pass rate. Passes are more efficient than rushes, 701 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: they gain more yards. I think this team is going 702 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: to be faced with more third downs. They're not going 703 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: to convert them as as often because they're going to 704 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: be longer yards to go on these third downs, and 705 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: they're going to take more sacks and turn the ball 706 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: over more times, and all of those things are going 707 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: to lead to more losses. It's very clear this team 708 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: is going to struggle more this season as a result 709 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: of not passing the ball quite as often. I think 710 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: whichever quarterbacks back there, Sean Payton's going to run the 711 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: football more often than he did with Drew Brees, and 712 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: that's going to cause problems for this offense. Awesome stuff, 713 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: Warren Sharp Sharp football analysis fall on social media. You 714 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: can get all his He's very very sharp. It's awesome 715 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: stuff and he unlikes so many others, you and me included. 716 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: He pays tends to every game and breaks him down 717 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: every week for you. Again, it's at Warren Sharp Warren, 718 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: great stuff, Thanks for joining us, Thanks for having me. 719 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: Guys Lebron and Russell Westbrook were hanging out Summer League 720 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: over the weekend. What's realistic expectations for the Lakers with 721 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: Rob Parker. I'm Doug Gottlieb. That's next to The Dan 722 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. 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So you don't like Matt Stafford, No, 740 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't believe he's the savior that people 741 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: are making him out to be. I'll wait, He'll have 742 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: to prove it to me. I've seen him in big games. 743 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: I've seen him in situations where it hasn't worked out 744 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: for the Lions. I know that everybody blames the Lions 745 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: for everything that's happened. Play twelve years in Detroit. We'll see. 746 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm just not they were They were they well coached 747 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: in in Detroit. Did you feel like that was some 748 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: good coaches? Now, I wasn't. Look, Look, the franchise has 749 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: one playoff when in fifty seven years. Okay, So I'm 750 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: not going to sit here and make it like it's 751 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: all his fault. But I'm not gonna crown the guy 752 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: and say they're getting to the super Bowl. I do 753 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: not believe Doug that the Rams will make it to 754 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: the super Bowl during Matthew Stafford's time in Los Angeles. Okay, 755 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: I mean like, look, I mean I think he's he's 756 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: a he's part of the story. They're obviously constructed very 757 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: very differently than other teams where they're they have an 758 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: absolute superstar on defense, maybe the best football player in 759 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 1: the game on defense, and Aaron Donald and and then 760 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 1: the way they used him last year, Jalen Ramsey would 761 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: just swiss army knife put him on whoever the other 762 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: team's best player is and and good luck, and we 763 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: have no idea how well would it work because Aaron 764 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: Donald wasn't healthy when they lost the Packers in the playoffs, 765 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: but that was when they felt like they were being 766 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: held back or limited offensively because of Jared Goff and 767 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: whether he couldn't make the plays downfield or wouldn't make 768 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: the plays downfield, or wasn't as invested. They just feel 769 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: like he's an upgrade and they were close with golf 770 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: and got to a super Bowl with golf. So the 771 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: idea is, if you're close with golf and you have 772 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: an upgrade, you're going to be a better football team. 773 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a logical a logical argument. Yeah, but 774 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they're going to the super Bowl. 775 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: If they and if Stafford doesn't get to the super Bowl, 776 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a failure in Los Angeles. That's why 777 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: they really it's Super Bowler bust. That's the only Absolutely, 778 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: that's the only thing, that's the only thing that will 779 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: work for the Absolutely, it's the only thing that worked 780 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: for the because they were a failure with Jared Golf. No, 781 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm not buying that you're telling me Matthew Stafford could 782 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: come to LA for three years and them not make 783 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl. And it's okay. I think 784 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: context manners if you if Aaron Donalds bringing him here. No, no, 785 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not the goal, but you're you're 786 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: making it as if unless you get that's that's a 787 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: that's a that's such a flawed argument. Right, it's not flawed. 788 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: So you dog. So it's okay. So I didn't say 789 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: wins and losses weren't important, but you have to win 790 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: every game like so, So the power you make last 791 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: was the Packers season last year a bad one or 792 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: a failure? Yes? They had Yes, they had the number 793 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: one seed in the NFC, They had the NFC Championship 794 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: game on their home field. They had beaten the number 795 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: one defense in the Rams uh in the playoffs, uh 796 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: the two weeks before or whatever it was when they 797 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: played him. And my point is Aaron Rodgers had arguably 798 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: his greatest season. Maybe not the quarterback rating. I think 799 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: one season was better, but he had obvid with his 800 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: numbers and touchdowns and red zone and all the other stuff. 801 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: And they didn't get to the Super Bowl. It was 802 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: a failure. It wasn't a failure. It was a disappointing 803 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: end to an incredible season. That's the way it actually worked. 804 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 1: It was you didn't have David, didn't have David Battier. 805 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: The offensive line wasn't wasn't good enough. He was under 806 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: under dress. And you know it's the same thing. It 807 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: was like, okay, so the Rams, you know, failure last year, 808 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: Like no, Aaron Donald was hurt. You have no idea 809 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: what what you what you're ceiling really was you don't 810 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: have your best player. But it happens in sports all 811 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: the time. Some teams win. I'm not saying if you're 812 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: best player, but people have injuries and somehow they find 813 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: a way to win. So we've seen that. I mean, 814 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: I get it, but there you would agree the core 815 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: of what makes the Rams who they are is the 816 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: fact they have the best player in football on their 817 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: defense of line and that and everything is built around that. 818 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: And when you don't have that case, then why are 819 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: you blaming Jared Golf as the reason why they didn't win. 820 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean when the year they went to the Super Bowl, 821 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: and I might be off, they had the fifth greatest 822 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: offense in the history of the NFL. Yes, and and 823 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: they got undressed. Sean McVay got undressed by Bill Belichick 824 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: when he scored three points on an eighty nine yard 825 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: field goal. That's all they could muster. And it's on 826 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: and now because they didn't get it done. It's on 827 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback. It's not the boy genius coach anymore. No, listen, 828 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: I I if he asked Sean McVay, he would tell 829 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: you he didn't. He didn't coach well enough in that game. 830 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: But they felt like part of it was the limitations 831 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: of what they had at quarterback that that limited them. 832 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: And this relieves them of those limitations. All right, we'll 833 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: get to We got some Lakers to get to. We 834 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: got some quarterbacks to get to, including Justin Fields and 835 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. Okay, Justin Fields and Trey Lance will get 836 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: to next now, really really quickly. Your expectations on the 837 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: Lakers with dar roster. We saw Russ and Lebron working 838 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: out together, hanging out together in Vegas. I'm not buying it. 839 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,959 Speaker 1: I think they're too old. The chances of all those 840 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: pieces staying healthy for an entire NBA season not buying it. 841 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll get to that next hour. Justin Fields 842 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: and Trey Lance big moments over the weekend, but should 843 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: they translate immediately in the NFL. We'll get to that 844 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: upcoming next