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Speaker 2: be perfect. Our guest today is fantastic and I'm so

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Speaker 2: I said no gifts.

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Speaker 2: I am hanging by a thread and I just need

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Speaker 3: Guilty? It is? Okay, I couldn't, I could not, you know,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sweet, okay, we're getting into it here.

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Speaker 2: Oh this is incredible. This is this is some real

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Speaker 3: And do you garden I do.

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Speaker 2: This is a gardening steak. Yeah, this is a wooden

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Speaker 2: thing in the way. It's just too much for me.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the Wooden Steak. Let's talk about vampires

439
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: for a minute.

440
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: Oh if you want.

441
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, before the show, did you have any idea any

442
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: like what was your knowledge of vampire culture?

443
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, like everyone you know, I had

444
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: just seen basically Twilight, the series that was one of them.

445
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: I had seen, you know, Interview with the Vampires. My

446
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: favorite vampire movie, which is ironic, but that's all I

447
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: really just knew was like old timey or the in

448
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: nineties one or the recent one. So it was like

449
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: three levels of like vampire entertainment.

450
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 4: And it was like, you want the original Dracula, or

451
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: you want like you know, Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt,

452
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 4: or you want like you know, Team Calin, Team Edward

453
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 4: or team Jacob, you know, right, all.

454
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: That have you Do you feel like you've learned anything

455
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: about vampires doing this or you're just getting in and

456
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: getting out.

457
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: No, I learned a lot. Like I think we're following

458
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: the rules of you know, original vampires and it's really cool,

459
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: you know. And sometimes we'll be sure in a scene

460
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: and think about like, oh, they can't have a reflection

461
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: in the mirror, so you're like, oh, this is gonna

462
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: look so cool because I didn't think about the idea

463
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: that you can't see them there. So we just had

464
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: an episode that air where everyone's doing an activity in

465
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: front of the mirror. They're all vampires, and then you

466
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: look at the mirror of the camera pans over and

467
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: things are floating in the mirror because obviously they're not there. Yeah,

468
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: so it's very very fun to play with. But I

469
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 3: level vampire folklore.

470
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a fascinating world to me. Do you

471
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: have a favorite like type of monster or whatever? Witches, ghost, vampires.

472
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: I don't think you're I actually don't think you're allowed

473
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: to say vampires here. I'm making that one rule.

474
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I think I like witches. I think it's

475
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: the closest thing that I think as humans that we

476
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: could be like, yeah, you could totally be like, you

477
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: don't have to look a certain way, you have a

478
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: pointy hat or fly in a room. And I do

479
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: believe that there's witches, you know, and I think that

480
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: that's cool. Is there mummies walking around? I don't know.

481
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: Is there zombies? I mean, I guess that's you know,

482
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: it's arguable, like some people could be walking zombies the

483
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: way they behave, But I think that witches is probably

484
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 3: the closest thing to that could happen. That could definitely

485
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: and I think it does. And there is which is

486
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 3: so all witches out there? I hope you're having a

487
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: good fall harvest.

488
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: I want more stereotypical witches wandering around. I feel like

489
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: the world would be better off if there was, like, yeah.

490
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: Tho hundred style dresses and hats and all that and

491
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: brooms and and Okay, I.

492
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: Don't think anyone would complain about that. I think I

493
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: would add just an extra layer of sinister whimsy to

494
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: the planet.

495
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's cool. I think it's like, you know,

496
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: I remember watching uh, bubble bubble toil in trouble with

497
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: the Olsen Twins.

498
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: What what is that?

499
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: And that was like a kids movie and I was like, whoa,

500
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: kids could be witches and I was easily you fooled.

501
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: And but they wore coining hats they did in the movie,

502
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's that's something that was brand recognition.

503
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 3: That's when I was like, witch witch, witch witch, and

504
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: I could you know, call them out on that. But

505
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: they look so cool. It looks like, you know, so

506
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 3: much fun. So maybe that maybe they do wear that

507
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: attire for special ceremonies.

508
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe behind closed doors or now I'm picturing modern

509
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: day Mary Kay and Ashley as witches, and I feel

510
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: like they could pull it off easily. Mary Kay and

511
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: Ashley reach out. They're billionaires, they can do whatever they want.

512
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: They could do it. They can actually bring that fashion back,

513
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: you know, make it so cool on mainstream.

514
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh, easily. They just have to like, you know, scream

515
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 2: at some member of their corporation and they'll get it,

516
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: you know, onto the assembly line. I don't think spring fashion.

517
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: Coming this fall. Spring.

518
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like spring is the time you want

519
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: to launch kind of a witchy fashion, full tilt witch

520
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: Mary Kay and Ashley, I'm available to consult Harvey. Well,

521
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: this is very exciting. I have something that doubles I love.

522
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: You know, an item that can do multiple things. I

523
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 2: can guard and I can stab someone. I can do

524
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: This object really does it all? Where did you get

525
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: this thing? Home depot?

526
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go to home depot and get it.

527
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: I can go to any gardening you know, supply store

528
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: and get them. So I think it's also secretly where

529
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: you know vampire killers go shopping.

530
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: Right, so you see somebody in like a leather trench

531
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: coat wandering through a home depot, you know that they're like,

532
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: they've got a crossbow, they're looking for the stakes.

533
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're asking where the holy water is and garlic?

534
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, nailed it beautiful. Well, I think it's time

535
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: to play a game. Okay, we're gonna play a game

536
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: called Gift or a Curse. I need a number from

537
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: you between one and ten three. Okay. I have to

538
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: do a little bit of light calculating. I have to

539
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: get our game pieces to play with. So in the meantime,

540
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: you can promote something, you can recommend something. I'll be

541
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: right back.

542
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see. If you're not cut up with the

543
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: current season, you should definitely catch up with what we

544
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: do in the Shadows, airing on FX our next day

545
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: on Hulu. Because what we do in the Shadows is

546
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: a show for you, Harvey.

547
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: I've got what we're dealing with here. And yes, he's

548
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: recommended what we do in the Shadows. If you haven't

549
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: seen it, it's a wonderful show, etc. But that's neither

550
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: here nor there. We need to play the game. I'm

551
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: going to name three things, and you're gonna tell me

552
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: if there're a gift or a curse and why. And

553
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: now you have to realize that there are correct answers.

554
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: This isn't just about Harvey's opinion. This isn't how Harvey

555
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: sees the world. This is how I know the world,

556
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: and I have the correct answers. So be very careful.

557
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 3: Okay.

558
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: To lose this game would be devastating to you and

559
00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: your loved ones.

560
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: Just be careful.

561
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: Okay. This first one's a listeners suggestion Megan has written

562
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: in She's suggested gift to a curse, full emails in

563
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: the subject line, so that what we're looking at here

564
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: is somebody writing an entire email in the subject line

565
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: gift to a.

566
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: Curse, a curse, absolutely curse?

567
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: And why.

568
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: No? Because I'd rather just have it be like you know,

569
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: subject whenever you have time or not important or urgent,

570
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: then that's that goes on top of my list, and

571
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 3: I want to click on that and open it. I

572
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: don't want to read. No, no, no, that's a curse.

573
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: Look, this is obviously an emotional issue for Harvey. Yeah,

574
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: it's a trigger look, very triggering. It sounds like you've

575
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: received some hunting emails in the past, and I'm going

576
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: to try to be sensitive here, but you're wrong. I

577
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: think these are absolutely a gift. I mean, what wild,

578
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: just maniac thing to do to write a full email

579
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: in a subject line? What are we doing? What are

580
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: we talking about? I love the idea of somebody getting

581
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: in their email and typing out fifty paragraphs in the

582
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: subject line. I think you click on the email and

583
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: it looks I mean, it's just bonkers to look at

584
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: that sort of thing.

585
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: Is there periods or just like.

586
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: It's like, what was this? What was the center going

587
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: through when they were sending this email? And if they

588
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: were in such a rush, why did they take so

589
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: much time to It's just so you know, I love

590
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: imagining the inner life of somebody who writes an email

591
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: in the subject line. I mean, it's you know, probably

592
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: occasionally by mistake. But I also think it's a real

593
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 2: particular type of person who just gets in there and

594
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: gives you, you know, their book proposal in the subject line.

595
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: It's too much, and I love it. I welcome all

596
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: emails where the entire thing is just dumped in the

597
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: subject line. Send them to me. I love them. I'm

598
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: a person who doesn't use any I don't do a

599
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: subject line. I don't think that it's necessary. Do you

600
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: put subject lines? I feel like it's so formal.

601
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: I don't think I do because I want you to

602
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: open the mail. You don't know what prize you got

603
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: or bad news if you don't open the package, and

604
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to give you any ink clean or

605
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to give you a maybe I'll open

606
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: this leader. It's like, oh, I'll get an email and

607
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: it has no Oh, I better open this. And if

608
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: you didn't open it, then it's like, so you just

609
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: ignored the email altogether. You didn't even think about the headline.

610
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: It was rude. And so I find more times and

611
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: less my emails get read faster that way.

612
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: I'm totally on board with that. I feel like the

613
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: subject line is from days past or it's like it's

614
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: like you don't have a relationship with the person where

615
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: it's like I don't know, it feels very marketing to me.

616
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do forget how to be like conversational or

617
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: an email so you know, the I hope this email

618
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: finds you. Well. I never do that, no, no, no,

619
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: So I usually go straight to the points, like, you know,

620
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: if I email my sister or something or whatever about

621
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: work and it's like do you know where I left

622
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: that laptop? You know? Or if by emails someone to

623
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: question my team or something like an agent or something,

624
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: it's just like when was it up. It's just like

625
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: not like hello, good afternoon, some whether we're having you know,

626
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: and it's like crazy, it's like happy almost weekend.

627
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: No no, no, that's not happening.

628
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: I don't I don't do the small tag. And then

629
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: people right back to me and they kind of a

630
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: little passive aggressive, like a everyone who writes back is

631
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: a good morning Harvey, trying to teach you. Yeah, and

632
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: it's like trying to teach me, and it's just like,

633
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: don't you teach me a lesson? I asked you a question,

634
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: and I'm just going straightforward I'm not trying to waste

635
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: your time, because if I waste your time by, you know,

636
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: a urgent message is the first thing you read and

637
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: then it's hello, how's your morning? Going crazy? Whether we're

638
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: having isn't it?

639
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: It's like, where did this urgent go?

640
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, the urgency is no longer there. It's always there.

641
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: The reason I sent an emails because it was urgent.

642
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: I wanted to get information or give you information. It

643
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: wasn't just like just stoping by to have a nice

644
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: email chat. Hope you're sitting down because I had. This

645
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: is a long one.

646
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like pounding on the door. Then the person

647
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: opens and you're like, oh, so nice to see Yes, okay,

648
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: Harvey will okay, So so far you're doing a horrible

649
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: job of this game, and that's fine. Number two gift

650
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: or a curse. This is another listener suggestion, someone named

651
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: Aaron rodin gift or a curse. Guided tours through museums.

652
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: I think that's actually a gift because I might have

653
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: missed something on my own tour, Like I might like

654
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: my own self guided tour. I might have gone up

655
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: to a paint and be like that's cool, and they

656
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: kept walking which I think I've done hundreds of time.

657
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: And then I was actually, this is actually true because

658
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: I was in Mexico City and I went to the

659
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: Deriveda Museum with my friend April E. Barra, and we

660
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: were walking around like this is so cool, and I'm like, Okay,

661
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: we just like dismissed it. Like after maybe like sixty seconds,

662
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking at one paint We're like, okay, we got

663
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: to go to this one. And then there was a

664
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 3: gentleman next do us, And I was like, do you

665
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: know what that means? And I was like, no, man,

666
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: I have a feeling you're gonna tell us. He's I'm

667
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: a professor at the local university for art. And I

668
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: was like, oh, he's like you see how he bought

669
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: and he gave us a whole guided tour, like on

670
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: the spot of the whole museum because he knew everything

671
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 3: about these paintings, stuff that I would have never known,

672
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: really specific to his art. Also, this guy could have

673
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: just been full of bs.

674
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: That's what I'd like to imagine. This was just a

675
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: total fraud.

676
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was like the security guard there, he

677
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: is the muse and he's just giving false information about

678
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: the mural, which I like to think that I was

679
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: apply the case that makes for a more interesting story.

680
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: But the stuff that he was saying was pretty It

681
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: made sense that he described it, and it made sense.

682
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: So I think that it's a gift because I don't

683
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: presume to know everything or some to know everything about

684
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: art or stuff like that. And if you're a professional,

685
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 3: then I like a professional's opinion.

686
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: Look, you've given this beautiful little defense of your answer. Unfortunately, Harvey,

687
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: Look the guy that tore through a museum is too

688
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: much pressure for me. Suddenly, I have to look. I

689
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: understand expertise, knowledge. The person that's lovely to have that

690
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: all share with me, But I like to do things

691
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: on my own timetable. If there was a guy to

692
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: tour through a museum where the person was like, you

693
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: can just drop out whenever you want, that might be

694
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 2: something I could deal with. But getting slowly pulled through

695
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: a museum, I don't know that I can do that

696
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: for me. It's a curse, not for me, I can.

697
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: I can't just say for me, this isn't personal, this

698
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: is an objective truth. It's a curse.

699
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: Me. You just heard. It's not a curse for me.

700
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: Harvey, what are we talking about? Your opinion does not

701
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: come into account here, but you have if anyone sees

702
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: me wandering around a museum with strangers telling them, you

703
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: know facts about the art. You know where this all began. Okay, well, Harvey,

704
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: you've got one final chance. I would hate to see

705
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: you walk away from this game with zero points the rule?

706
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: Why what are we even talking about? I feel like

707
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: you're pointing a lot of fingers here.

708
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I guess can this be worth like double

709
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: the points?

710
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: I guess is going to be worth one point? You

711
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: can walk away with thirty three percent? Here? This is

712
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: another listener suggestion. Olivia has written in gift her a

713
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: curse Currigs. You know the coffee machines with the little

714
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: plastic cups.

715
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: I didn't say a curse because I don't really drink coffee.

716
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 3: And second, I don't think I guess it's simple enough

717
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: to make it. I don't know how to make it

718
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: because I don't make coffee. I think I'm the only

719
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: person I know that doesn't drink off cave on my

720
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: Fearless leader on our show, Nandor. He loves coffee and

721
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: he's just recently They just recently asked us if he

722
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: wanted coffee makers for the set, and I think I

723
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: was the only person who said no, your trailer and

724
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: they're like, do you want to coffee making each other?

725
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: And everyone's like, oh, I love like Natasha, she likes

726
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: to go kettle for tea. Cavean loves coffe So he

727
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: got the machine. And I think I was just like,

728
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: can I get like which is like hot Mexican hotchuck

729
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: delicious that you make it yourself with like milk and whatnot.

730
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: And I don't think I would go for the machine. Unfortunately.

731
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: I think it's a curse because then I would I

732
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: would want to use it. I think I want to

733
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: use it all the time, and I get addicted to

734
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: coffee and then I want I need my jones for

735
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: some Joe in the morning, and then I wake up,

736
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: you know, And if I saw someone else touching the

737
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: coffee machine, I get erratic and I was like, it's

738
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: not a coffee machine, it's mine, And like, I think

739
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: it's a curse. I think that I'm starting to crusade here,

740
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: and I think you can join me today. You can

741
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: change your life if you make the choice in the

742
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: first step.

743
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: Wow, you did it. You're not walking away in total shame.

744
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: I think those machines are garbage. I hate those machines.

745
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: They like I love coffee, what they're producing is essentially

746
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: printer ring. I mean it tastes like burnt plastic. There's

747
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: no there was no rison those thing should exist. We

748
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: have we figured out how to make coffee years ago.

749
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: I do not need the anytime that's presented to me,

750
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm furious. And they're kind of positioned as this luxury product. No,

751
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: it tastes like crap, no thank you, and.

752
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: Hotel rooms there how many people have used this machine

753
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: and how when was the last time it was like

754
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: wash thoroughly? Like you know, it's like you get a

755
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 3: coffee machine in your room and it's like I don't

756
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: want that. Like it's like I just I will get coffee.

757
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: I'll just order it. I'll order coffee. Yes, you make

758
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: the hot coffee.

759
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: What you're saying to me is now making me think

760
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: the curig is the taste of a radison in. That's

761
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: what you're tasting a cup full of Marriotte. It tastes

762
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: like it's like a stale hotel room.

763
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: No thank you, Yeah, I agree with you.

764
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, well, you know as badly as you did

765
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: on the first two, you made it up in an

766
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: enormous way. On number three. I would love to say

767
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: you won the game. You clearly lost. But that's fine.

768
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: At least I think everybody's excited with the way this ended.

769
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: I can speak for the listener here.

770
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: You speak for everyone.

771
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: I speak for a lot of people. This podcast has

772
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: seven billion listeners, and they're all on my side. Okay, well,

773
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: this is the final part of the podcast. This is

774
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: called I said no emails. People write into I said

775
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: no ge Oh good lord, I'm running out of steam here.

776
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 2: They ride into ice.

777
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: I need.

778
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: I should be drinking plastic coffee right now. It's seven pm.

779
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: They write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

780
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: They all have different issues this kind of thing. They

781
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: drag me into it, they drag you, the guest, into it,

782
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: and then we do our best to solve their problems.

783
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: Will you help me answer some problems?

784
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: Sure?

785
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: This first one says dear Bridger and distinguished guest. Oh,

786
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: that's a nice way to describe you. I am hoping

787
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: for your guidance through a precarious situation during the Grand shutdown.

788
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: I was given the gift of a job by a

789
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: friend and colleague. I've been trying to think of a

790
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: way to thank this person, but he has been resistant

791
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: to anything I've come up with. His name is Max,

792
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: and last week he got married to a lovely person

793
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: named Kelsey. Oh, we're getting a lot of characters in

794
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: this email. We've got a Max and a Kelsey so far.

795
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: Okay.

796
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: I was unable to track down the registry to covertly

797
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: send them something. One thing that I know is, oh, now,

798
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: this is nice. One thing that I know is he

799
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: loves your podcast. I said no gifts, okay, while I'm

800
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: on Max's side here, so I was wondering, would you

801
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: consider simply saying congratulations Max and Kelsey, as I'm sure

802
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: it would make his day? Okay interesting than well, I

803
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: can clearly edit that out. Thank you so much for

804
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: this podcast, says I'm also a big fan. Okay. Be well,

805
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: someone named Dave, Dave, you've I mean, you've kind of

806
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: tricked me into saying the sentence.

807
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: Very well done, well played, Dave, well played.

808
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: You use my reading against me, Dave, and just my

809
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: uh you know, if I had known in advance, I

810
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: would have just skipped that sentence and then considered. But

811
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: now I've just been fooled into saying it. I mean, okay,

812
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: but look, you've done a good job of fooling me.

813
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: I'll say it again. Congratulations Max and Kelsey. I hope

814
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 2: everybody is happy with what they've done to me here.

815
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: But I have a question. Yeah, they're such good friends.

816
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: Weren't you invited to the wedding and weren't you given

817
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: the rest Listen and.

818
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: Harvey brings up an excellent point, Dave, I don't know

819
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: that Max is your friend.

820
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: I don't think you're good of a friends like you

821
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: thought you were.

822
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: I feel like we've discovered something about your relationship here

823
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: that's devastating.

824
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: It sounds like every time you're insisting on giving them

825
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: a if they just said, no, stay away, just give

826
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: us anything. We don't want anything from you, and you

827
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 3: kept insisting. And did you go to the wedding because

828
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: they had a wedding and you were trying to go

829
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: to it. You didn't get the registry because you weren't

830
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: invited to the wedding.

831
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: Dave, get Max wants you as far away from as possible.

832
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: He was regretting getting you this job. This is we're

833
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: on our way to an HR issue to tell you

834
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: that it's oh god, this is embarrassing for you, it's

835
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: scary for Max and his new wife. And Harvey is

836
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: now part of the equation. He didn't have any plan

837
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: on being in this at all.

838
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: I solve this mystery as soon as the clues came in.

839
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 3: I really like Nancy drew it hardy boys, this Dave.

840
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: When somebody doesn't share their wedding registry with you, it's

841
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: time to move on from the relationship because most people

842
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 2: will give their registry to just about anyone. They're looking

843
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: for people to buy these goods.

844
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: They don't want it. Oh information. I've seen registries online

845
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: that people just like, feel free to done the less.

846
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: Whatever you have, send us a gift. And if someone's

847
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: keeping away that information.

848
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm glad we brought Harvey into this actually, because

849
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: this is some real clarity for everybody involved. I can't

850
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: believe this. I mean, this is hopefully I mean.

851
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: What if he's using you for forgiveness or something like

852
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: you just made this like see, I got him to

853
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: say it. I got him to say congratulations.

854
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: Now you're a Max. We're friends again, we're friends. Right,

855
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: you'll sit with me at the office lunch. Dave, Dave,

856
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: Dave a devastating day for Dave's all around. Look, I

857
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: don't know that we can go on to another question

858
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: at this point. I feel like this has been such

859
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: a bleak, devastating thing that we're not gonna We're not.

860
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't even want to see what the next person

861
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: has to say, because what if it's another tragedy.

862
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: Let's hope, Let's let's see.

863
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: Do you want to see Let's give it a shot.

864
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: We'll give it a shot.

865
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: You can always edit this question.

866
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay, this next one, this is a short one, so

867
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: this will be okay, this is dear Bridger and marvelous guest. Well,

868
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: people are really, you know, going all out for Harvey.

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Speaker 2: Here this person says, my son turns five next month.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so first off of the bat, I think

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00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: this might be one of our first child gift giving situations.

872
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: This is interesting to me. Okay, So my son turns

873
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 2: five next month and is now at the age where

874
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: he can truly appreciate a good gift. He's an old

875
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: soul in a tiny body and likes Peter Rabbit construction.

876
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: Vehicles and poetry, especially poems by Robert Lewis Stevenson. I

877
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: want to get him a memorable gift. What do you

878
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 2: suggest regards Quinn? Okay, this is a nice thing. We're

879
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: getting a gift for a kid. Look, a kid that

880
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: loves Peter Rabbit and poetry sounds like a nice little soul.

881
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: What do we get the five year old? Do you

882
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: have any like nieces or nephews?

883
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: I do. I think for their fifth birthday, I took

884
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: them to Disneyland because they're old enough to appreciate the

885
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 3: magic of it. So I would recommend for an old

886
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: soul and five year old body a future membership to therapy.

887
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: They're gonna have their thinker, They're going to have a

888
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: lot of questions, and you know they're an old soul,

889
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 3: they're probably already like midlife by five, right.

890
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: And look, speaking from experience, Quinn, your son is gay.

891
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to speculate. I've only been

892
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: given so many details here, but we're based described the poetry.

893
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: The construction, I mean, the construction vehicles is like, you know,

894
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: that could be a red herring. I don't know, but

895
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Speaker 2: I'm just talking from my own as a previous gay

896
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 2: five year old. I'm just saying your son is gay.

897
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: Imperfect. Today's a national coming out day, National coming out day,

898
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: so look everyone, this could be Quinn's son.

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Speaker 2: Aside, it's a good thing to do, but I think

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00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: get a nice book of How about T. S. Eliott's

901
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: Book of the Cat, book about with all the books

902
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: poems about cats. That's a fun one for kids.

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00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: Taken to see cats.

904
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm going to say. The play, the

905
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: musical is based on the book that we're setting up

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00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: a lifetime here for this gay child. Yeah, and if

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00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: he's not gay, he's just a wonderful straight man with

908
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: excellent taste.

909
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: Win when.

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00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: We do you have anything else? And now do you

911
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: have some devastating revelation that you've gathered from the clues here?

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00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know you personally, but are you

913
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: sure this is your son?

914
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: Like? Maybe it was a right Quinn. It's another thing

915
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: to consider. Yeah, this could easily have been swapped in

916
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: the hospital because you.

917
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: Sound surprised by like, you know how lovely they are.

918
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: It's like this is in my.

919
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: Offspring, right, So Quinn, DNA test it's never too early.

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00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: That's you get That's the gift that keeps giving.

921
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: Your five year old a nice, memorable gift for your

922
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: five year old twenty years. So look back and wonder

923
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: why did mom get me a DNA test in kindergarten?

924
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: And then there's a whole mystery for him to unravel.

925
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: It's a gift that he can look like that will

926
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: last for years. It's a mystery that he has to

927
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: live with m HM. And there's no greater gift. Yeah, Quinn,

928
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: you've gotten excellent advice from us. Harvey, You and I

929
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: did a job. Yeah, that's the end of those questions. Harvey.

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00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: This is the end of the podcast. I have this

931
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: wonderful steak that's multi use.

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Speaker 3: You know, mostly gardening.

933
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Speaker 2: It is for gardening until the worst happens.

934
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Speaker 3: But you're ready because you have tomatoes and you have

935
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Speaker 3: a steak. If some want to text.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm ready to go. I've had a wonderful time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here, Thanks for having

938
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Speaker 2: me listener. As usual, the podcast is about to come

939
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Speaker 2: to an end. Your heart is racing, you're panicking about

940
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: what you'll do next, and I'm not going to give

941
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: you any advice today. I need you to you know,

942
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: go and fly on your own, Take care, goodbye. I said,

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Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and

944
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Speaker 2: engineered by our dear friend Anna Lisa Nelson, and the

945
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Speaker 2: theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must

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Speaker 2: follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts,

947
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Speaker 2: That's where you're going to see pictures of all these

948
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Speaker 2: wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts.

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Speaker 3: I invit.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funna Man myself perfectly clear? When you're

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Speaker 1: a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty,

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Speaker 1: And I said, no guests, Your presences presents enough and

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Speaker 1: I'm already too much stuff. So how do you dare

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Speaker 1: to survey? Makes good book?

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Speaker 3: Boo