1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: about this week's episode subject Basquiat. We are previewing the 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: coming Go Gos episode, talking about our upcoming slate of 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: new subjects, and we get into your voicemails, text DMS, 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: emails and as always, a whole lot of rosie. All right, Discos, 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: let's get into it. If I could do anything in 15 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: the world for a job, it would be this. It'd 16 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: be to get up in the morning, make a cup 17 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: of coffee, sit in my comfortable chair in my office, 18 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: my dog at my feet, put some John Coltrane on 19 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: on that turntable of mine, and just write. And that 20 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: turntable is vintage. It's nineteen sixty four, and so are 21 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: the subjects that I write about. They're vintage, and that 22 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: often means that there's a limited audience for some of 23 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: these subjects. But I'm okay with that. I don't care. 24 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: It's what I'm into and I know you guys are 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: gonna do it as well. I have an audience for 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: what I write, and this is something that any writer 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: would be blessed to have. I mean, it's not just 28 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: that there's an audience for Disgraceline, but I get to 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: come and I get to talk to you every week 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: here in the after party. You guys talk to me, 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: you call me, send me texts, talk on dms. All 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: that it's beyond my wildest dreams or beyond it was. 33 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: It is beyond the wildest dreams that I had as 34 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: a kid thinking about what I would do when I 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: grew up. And here I am. Stories that I write. 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: As you guys know, they're dubbed music and true crime 37 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: here in Disgraceland, but really the true crime bit it's 38 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: always been a bit of a trojan horse. Disgraceland, as 39 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, is really a music history series. The hook, 40 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: I guess, if you want to call it that is 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: that I tell you, guys, these stories through the lens 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: of true crime, which makes in my estimation of these 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: stories more interesting not only for you, but for me too. 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Like you, guys, I've always been uninterested in the conventional stories. 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: Not always, I should say, there was a time that 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't I was interested. That was a long time ago, 47 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: because like you, I devoured the conventional stories when I 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: was a kid. Thankfully, with time, we've been afforded the 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: luxury of numerous artists, autobiographies, tell alls, documentaries, troves of 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: information where well sourced alternative stories have emerged. I don't 51 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: like that phrase alternative, but I don't have another another 52 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: word for it. We've talked about this a lot. I'm 53 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: not going to beat a dead horse. But there's the 54 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: sort of accepted artist narrative in most cases, and then 55 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: there's all of this other storytelling that springs up around 56 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: these artists, around the history of these artists, from the 57 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: people who knew them, sometimes from the artists themselves, and 58 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: these stories are far more interesting, and because they present 59 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: different sides of these subjects that we love, we've grown 60 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: to love at least, and as you're well aware, it 61 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: gives us a new view into the past and more dramatic, 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: more exciting look at music history. I tell you all 63 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: this because I'm really excited about what's coming in the 64 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: next few weeks. We're bringing you some of our best 65 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: episodes yet, new episodes from music history, unconventional stories from 66 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: music history that either have not been told yet in podcasting, 67 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: or if they have been told, I promise you that 68 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: they have not been told the way that we are 69 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: going to tell them. And that's a big thing here too. 70 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's like we're messing with a new medium 71 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: here with podcasting. It's still new, even though it's been 72 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: around for going on two decades at this point, I think. 73 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: But we're using this new medium to tell these stories 74 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: in a different way. So, yeah, you can go on 75 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: YouTube and you can find the story of you know, 76 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Byorick or Marilyn Manson or whomever, but you're not going 77 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: to find the story told the way that we're going 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: to tell you in this podcast. Okay, So the new 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: stories we have coming up, they either haven't been told 80 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: at all, they haven't been told in podcasting, or they 81 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: haven't told Again, I promise you they have not been 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: told the way that we're going to tell them. The 83 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: Disgraceland feed going forward got to be a little bit different. 84 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: The Icon series is a actually over with this most 85 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: recent Bascocht episode. Okay, from now on, all non music 86 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: subjects will be featured in their own feed. Episodes on 87 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: actors and actresses in Hollywood and true crime will only 88 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: be found in the Hollywood Land podcast feed, which if 89 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: you're not subscribed in Following Nazi chants, but back to Disgraceland, 90 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: in the coming week's news stories are going to be 91 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: about the Go Gos Okay, a band that was birthed 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: in the city referred to at the time as the 93 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: serial killer capital of the world. Very true Crimeing this 94 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: episode Marilyn Manson, we have an episode on Marilyn Manson 95 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: coming up. This could have been seriously five episodes. Manson 96 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: is an artist Who's what I discovered when I was 97 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: researching this the inhumanity of this guy. Okay, the inhumanity 98 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: that's the theme of this Manson episode. At times it 99 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: was not just shocking, it was incomprehensible and the most 100 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: keep we keep running into this. The most shocking part, okay, 101 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: the most shocking part about the Marilyn Manson story is 102 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: that the artist himself documented most of this inhumane behavior 103 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: in graphic detail, and we're gonna bring that to you, 104 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna hang it on the theme of inhumanity, 105 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna merge it with the past 106 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: few years, past decade plus I guess of sexual abuse 107 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: allegations against Marilyn Manson and what came of those allegations. 108 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: Pretty incredible story. I can't wait to talk to you 109 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: guys about it. Byork this is another one. Now, this 110 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: is one where this is one of those stories where 111 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: you might hear what the story is about and you 112 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: might go, wow, I had no fucking idea that happened. 113 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: How did I miss that? Or you just as easily 114 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: might hear what this story is about and you might 115 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: say to yourself, that's old news. I've heard that before. 116 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: I know about that. I saw fourteen YouTube videos about it. 117 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: But again, you have not heard our version of it, 118 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: all right, and what we're going to do with it 119 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: in audio, and it's gonna be different. Byorke A truly 120 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: one of a kind of artists whose life and career 121 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: ran up against one of the most deranged music fans 122 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: of all time. That's coming in a couple of weeks 123 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: The Who Okay, we did an episode on the Who 124 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: back in the day, was really a Keith Moon episode. 125 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: We had to do that. Keith Moon is such a 126 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: larger than life rock and roll history character. But what 127 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: we did not do in that episode is get to 128 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: the story about the Who, a band being at the 129 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: center of one of the greatest tragedies in rock and 130 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: roll history. So we're going to do that in the 131 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: next coming weeks. Also episodes on the Replacements, Mark Lanagan, Fish, 132 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar, The Runaways, Pentagram MIAs A Potter from the 133 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: gets Nikki six, and so many more. They are all 134 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: coming in the weeks and months ahead, and I couldn't 135 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: be more excited. A lot of those subjects that I 136 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: just read to you came from you guys directly. They 137 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: were suggested by you guys, either via email, text, voicemail, 138 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: and the Patreon chat. And we tried really over the 139 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: next few months to produce episodes that you guys have 140 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: specifically asked for, So you're gonna start to see those 141 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: rolling out. You're gonna be getting four new full episodes 142 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: of Disgraceland every month, plus the bonus after party episode 143 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: every week. As always, we're gonna be rewinding archive episodes 144 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: weekly once over the weekend. Sometimes there are two parters, 145 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, if it's a two part episode, you're gonna 146 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: get you know, two of those episodes. And sometimes, you know, 147 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: as we release our new episodes, like the Nikki six one, 148 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: for example, that we get coming up, we're gonna drop 149 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: that Motley Cure episode in there next to it and 150 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: create our own new two part or I guess you 151 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: could say. So many of these artists that we've covered, 152 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: we do thirty minute episodes. As you know, there's only 153 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: so much you can get to and some of these stories, 154 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: for example, the story of Nikki six dying, that could 155 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: be its own episode in and of itself. We got 156 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: to it in the Motley Creure episode. We spent about 157 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: five hundred words on it maybe, and it just deserves more. 158 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: So we're gonna start sprinkling those types of episodes in 159 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: as we go here as well. You saw a little 160 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: bit of that over the past month with Van Halen 161 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: and Prince. Now this week, next to your feed, we're 162 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: rewinding our episode on gg Allen New listeners, You're like, 163 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: who the hell is Gigi Allen. I don't I've never 164 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: heard this name before, or maybe it sounds vaguely familiar. 165 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: If you have not heard this episode from our archive previously, 166 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: get ready, okay, it might be the most shocking episode 167 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: in our archive, quite possibly the most shocking artist in 168 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: music history. And I'm talking about all of music history, 169 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: going back to the depraved composers everything. Old listeners, give this, 170 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: give this one a new spin. All right, it's gonna 171 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: make you feel dirty. Bring some soap next week. Speaking 172 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: of dirty, you might not associate that word with the 173 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Go Gos all Bright and Sonny and La and eighties neon. However, 174 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: that was not at the core of who this band 175 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: and was these women. In addition to being an incredible band, 176 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: they were also as debaucherous as they come. And this 177 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: story is wild. We go way beyond the documentary that 178 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: came out a couple of years ago. And I'm pretty 179 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: sure you're gonna get a fuller, wilder depiction of the 180 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: band in this upcoming episode next week, as well as 181 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: a darker look at the time and place that spawned 182 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: the group. Los Angeles in the Go Gos episode is 183 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: almost its own character in the story, The Go Gos. 184 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: They did something it's worth mentioning here in advance. They 185 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: did something that no other group of female musicians has 186 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: ever done before, and you're going to hear about it 187 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: in the episode, and that is going to prompt the 188 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: question of the week. So when you're listening to the 189 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: Go Gos episode, be asking yourself, are the Go Gos 190 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: the greatest girl group of all time? And if they 191 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: are not, then tell me who is six one seven 192 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight Voicemail and text 193 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: with your answers and you can be part of the show. 194 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: I'll respond in next week's after party episode with your 195 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: calls and messages as always, so lots of great content 196 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: coming your way. Guys. I'm excited to be turning this page. 197 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Feels like we're turning a page in disgrace, and I'm 198 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: super grateful to have you with me as always, along 199 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: for the ride. Some of you have been with me 200 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. You don't know what that means. That 201 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: is huge. Thank you. And new listeners, thank you, damn man. 202 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: It's wild to be doing this for so long, and 203 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: every single week I hear from new listeners who are 204 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: excited about this show. I appreciate you as well much gratitude. 205 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: Hang with me here for a minute. I'm back on 206 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: the other side of the break with your answers to 207 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: last week's question of the Week, your voicemails, texts, emails 208 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: and more. All right, we are back six one seven 209 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. You know where 210 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm at. I'm in the phone booths. It's the one 211 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone like Debbie Harry. 212 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: By the way, I still I cannot get over the 213 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: amount of people who message me and tell me that 214 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: Debbie Harry is a liar, that Debbie Harry was not 215 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: abducted by Ted Bundy as she claims. It is shocking 216 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: to me, and it is shocking to me that they 217 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: just claim that it has been it's been debunked. It 218 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: has not been debunked. Okay, you don't know what the 219 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: hell you're talking about. Define debunked. Okay. The person who 220 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: said it happened to her continues to say it happened 221 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: to her despite the weak, weak sauce evidence that it 222 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: has not. Okay. Anyways, Debbie Harry inspired this segment, Hanging 223 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: on the telephone six one, seven nine or sixty six 224 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: six three eight. Let's go to the eight one eight. 225 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, this is Keen from eight one eight. Thank 226 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: you so much for doing an episode about an artist 227 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: and not just musicians. I can't believe more people don't 228 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: know who Baskia is. He's art world famous. The public 229 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: doesn't know he is, even though he's the biggest name 230 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: for artists who had a second act Bob Dylan. I 231 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: know he's not exactly not doing music, but he's got 232 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: a lot of amazing artwork, and a lot of artists 233 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: the musicians do their own artwork. Tom York, which with 234 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: Stanley Donwood, has done all of the album covers for Radiohead. 235 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: Another guy, Nathaniel Russell, kind of underground guy, has done 236 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: a lot of posters and stuff like that. Anyway, thank 237 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: you so much, Tack care. 238 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: Ken from the eight one eight. Great great voicemail. You 239 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: encompassed a lot of the topics we've been talking about 240 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: here over the last couple of weeks. Yeah, Boscot massively 241 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: famous in the art world, culturally, very He's been very relevant, 242 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: I would say, in a different new in a bigger 243 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: kind of way, with a with a with a more 244 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: pronounced relevance over the last decade or so, at least 245 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: here in the States. And yeah, I wanted to get 246 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: into basqueow because of that relevance, but also because of 247 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: that wild Cia story and also because there's a music connection, 248 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: and that was really the driving factor there. The way 249 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: music influenced at Boscat was obviously a musician. You know, 250 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: he considered himself a musician before he did an artist 251 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: at some point. I know he's always he was always 252 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: a graffiti artist and visual artist, but music was a 253 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: big part of his come up. As for Bob Dylan 254 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: as an artist, I've seen some of Dylan's art and 255 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I don't hate it. I like it. 256 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough. I didn't know that about Tom York, 257 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: thank you. I didn't realize that Tom York was involved 258 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: with the artwork for the Radiohead albums. That's pretty awesome, 259 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the three, one seven, Hey. 260 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,479 Speaker 3: Diesel from Indianapolis. I'm just I was a little disappointed 261 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: that I didn't even get a mention about my Mount 262 00:14:54,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: Rushmore with the you know, Django and Robert Johnson and 263 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: the earlier some of the earlier guys and disabled guys. 264 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: You know our real Mount Rushmore is. You know some 265 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: Founding Fathers, early guys, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Lincoln you 266 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: know was later on. But anyway, it's no worries, man, 267 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: I still love the show. Keep doing it. 268 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, I was. 269 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: I'm blind, but I could really use a coffee cup. 270 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: Brother Diesel, my man from Indianapolis. Thank you for the message. 271 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: I didn't hear the original one that you sent or 272 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: read it if you texted it. Apologize. I don't get 273 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: to all of them within the week. I try to 274 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: get to get to them all at some point. But 275 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this now, hearing this now, and I wanted 276 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: to respond because Django needs to be mentioned, and Robert 277 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: Johnson needs to be mentioned as well. And you know, 278 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you are familiar with 279 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Robert Johnson. His guitar playing his music just the first 280 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: time I ever heard it. I heard it in high school. 281 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: I was driven to listen to it because the leads 282 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: up and box set came out and the only new 283 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: song on the box set was Traveling Riverside Blues, which 284 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: was a cover of Robert Johnson, and I went and 285 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: I was right around the time, I think there was 286 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: a Robert Johnson box set that came out, so there 287 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: was kind of a resurgence of Johnson going on. Similarly, anyways, 288 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I heard that version of the song. I think that 289 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: was the first Robert Johnson piece I'd ever heard, and 290 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: as I got deeper into the catalog, it struck me. 291 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: When I was listening to him play guitar, it sounded 292 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: like literally like three different guitars at points, definitely two 293 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: throughout most of it, and I just could not believe 294 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: what the hell I was hearing or how he was 295 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: doing it. Now I have a technical understanding of what 296 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: he was doing, I can't do it, but I have 297 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: an understanding of how he was doing it at least, 298 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: But then to my years, it just sounded like, how 299 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: is one man making all of this sound? And as 300 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: far as influence goes, Diesel, You're absolutely right, uh, I 301 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: almost said, said George Jefferson. Robert Johnson deserves to be 302 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: on the Mount Rushmore of course, and Django as well. 303 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned disabled guys. Tony Iomi as well. Didn't get 304 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: a mention, but I just wanted to get at you here, 305 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: get back to your Diesel. I appreciate the listeners. Thanks 306 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: so much. Appreciate the call as well. You have great 307 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: taste in guitar players. All right, let's go to the 308 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: four h five. 309 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, notorious RDG. It's from the four h five. 310 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: Listen to one of your your after parties and you 311 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: spoke on something's near and dear to my own heart. 312 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: That is trial by Jerry. More specifically, we're talking about 313 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: the Didy trial. Obviously you discussed how hard it was 314 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: to listen to or how you've read how it's so 315 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: heartless to the testimony. But I do want to point 316 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: out though for the reader, they are not the juror 317 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: they are not sitting there in the courtroom day eterday. 318 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 4: There is a bit of a psychological aspect to it, 319 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 4: in which the jur becomes somewhat conditioned as to what 320 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 4: is normal for some people. The real truth will start 321 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: to come out through the crucible of cross examination. Again, 322 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: there's a huge psychological aspect of sitting in a jury 323 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: listening to this testimony and what comes out on cross examination. 324 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 4: Should the defense for present any defense, should they call 325 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: any witnesses, it will shape the trial tremendously. Again, not 326 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: trying to take sides for Ditty or anyone else in 327 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: this aspect, but there is a certain psychological aspect to it. 328 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 4: And the other aspect is for some people who are victims, 329 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: there are many people who embrace it to the point 330 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: where it becomes their identity. They want to be the spokesman, 331 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 4: they want to do the newspaper articles, they want to 332 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: do the magazine covers, and they are not so much 333 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: as playing the victim as they gave them a sense 334 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: of identity. And again, I am not trying to disparage 335 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: anyone who's been abused, but by all means, there's such 336 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: a psychological aspect, especially that comes to the matters of 337 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 4: sexual accusations, sexual misconduct, sexual abuse. It does shape a 338 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 4: lot of things. But also, you know, everybody does have 339 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: their own freak and to that, to each your own. Oh, 340 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: I don't like what I'm reading. You know, you gotta 341 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: wait for the tread to finish. Thanks Jake talking Roll. 342 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate the call notorious R. Dg Over in the four 343 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: oh five? Where is the four oh five? Wow? A 344 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: lot there a lot to unpack, but you hit on 345 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: something that I'd never really thought of before. Because I'm 346 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: not a legal expert by any means. Sounds like sounds 347 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: like you are, you have some you have some real 348 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: insight into this, into the process. I guess it makes 349 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: total sense that a jury, throughout the course of a trial, 350 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: an ongoing trial like this, would have a level of 351 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: disassociation where they can sort of remove themselves emotionally from 352 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: the testimony, both the more difficult parts of the testimony, 353 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: both in cross examination and when the defense is and 354 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: when the prosecution is questioning. I never thought of that. 355 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: To me. 356 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm just going into it as a lay person, and 357 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm reading what's being put forth, what's happening in the trial, 358 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: and I'm shocked at first blush, And of course you're 359 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: absolutely right. I can totally see how the jury would 360 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: have a completely different experience, and that's good, that's obviously 361 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: a good thing. We want all of our defendants, no 362 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: matter how horrible they're alleged crimes, to get a fair 363 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: shake at a fair jury, at a fair trial. However, 364 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: that said, there is so much existing evidence already out 365 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: in the world for Diddy right now, and although I 366 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: have no idea what the jury is thinking, I have 367 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: no idea how effective of a defense Diddy's team will mount. 368 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: I have many thoughts on this trial, and they're all competing. 369 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: And on the one hand, like we talked about last week, 370 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: the details are disgusting. On the another thought I have 371 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: as I just though he claims to be innocent, I 372 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: do not believe that he is innocent. 373 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 3: Now. 374 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's guilty of everything they're saying he's 375 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: guilty of, but the guy, on a certain level is 376 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: a fucking monster, and nothing that happens in this trial 377 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: is going to make me think otherwise. We just have 378 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: too much evidence. The evidence of him beating Cassie is gross, 379 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: full stop. But he's on trial for much more than that, 380 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's all going to stick. 381 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna find out. And you said something 382 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: really interesting in here, RGB. You said, should the defense 383 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: present any defense and quality witnesses, it'll shape the trial tremendously. 384 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: You're right, it will. However, I don't think it's going 385 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: to shape it tremendously in favor of Shawn Combs. I 386 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: could be wrong. Now, I just want to say the 387 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: final thought that I'm working toward here with Sean Combs, 388 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: as this trial unfolds one. It is not capturing the 389 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: moment the way that I thought it would. I expected 390 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: this to be OJ Simpson light. It's not even that. 391 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: And people are interested, They're not that interested. And yeah, 392 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: I know TikTok's on fire every day with trial news 393 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: and all that, but this is not capturing the zeitgeist 394 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: the way that a real trial of the century captures 395 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: the zeitgeist. So that's kind of shocking to me. And 396 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: I think the reason isn't just because television cameras are 397 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: not allowed. I think that's a big part of it. 398 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: But I just think people are desensitized to this whole thing. 399 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: We had such a lead up, we had so much conjecture. 400 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Now on that conjecture, the other thought I'm coming to is, 401 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to get any blockbuster news 402 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: out of this. I think we know what we know 403 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: based on the indictments. We may get a couple surprises 404 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: based on the witnesses I read this morning. I think 405 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: the kid Cutty is going to testify, But I think 406 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: this is going to be a relatively non newsy trial 407 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: of the century, not even a trial of the century. 408 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, and we shall see all right. Anyways, 409 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: thank you for the call four h five, Notorious RDG. 410 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: You prompted a lot there. I appreciate you. Six one 411 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. You guys 412 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: want to send me a voicemail send me a text. 413 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: Four h five sent in a picture of a basquiacht 414 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: hanging in their office. I'm going to assume four five 415 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: that this is a print and not an actual bosk yacht. 416 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: If it is, then I direct you to our Patreon 417 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Just kidding. That's cool? How big is that? I can't 418 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: really tell four to three seven, hey, Jake to answer 419 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: the question, who are the artists that represent their times 420 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: the best? The Fujis, the Red Hot, Chili Peppers, the Strokes, 421 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: the Killers, TV on the Radio, Tricky, Rage against the Machine, 422 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: Trip called Quest, Salt and Peppa, Biggie Smalls, Tanya, Tanya, 423 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: I quibble with some of your responses here, Salt and Peppa, 424 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one. I like it though, body like 425 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: Arnold of the Denzel Face, I'll never forget that. Nine 426 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: to two to zero writes in with some suggestions. Rage 427 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: against the Machine episode Faith No More skid Row warrant warrant, 428 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: warrant mm Anthrax, Dawcin Winger, Poison, Queen's Reich, and suicidal tendencies. Listen, 429 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: the hair metal thing, right, I'm gonna get more. I'm 430 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna do some hair metal episodes at some point. Not 431 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: my cup of tea and not my particular cup of tea. 432 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: Didn't somebody from dawc and die from AIDS? Or am 433 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: I am? I mistaken? Hold on? That feels like something 434 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: I need to get right. I'm gonna look that up. No, 435 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: it was not Dawkin. I apologize. I'm confusing that with 436 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: Rat guitarist Robin Crosby did die of AIDS. Yikes. There's 437 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: also def Leppard. I want to do that story as well, 438 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: the Rick Allen thing with the arm six seven nine 439 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: six six sixty three eight. You guys got some episode subjects. 440 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: We're taking them. We're always taking them, always voicemail and 441 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: text at Disgrace, LAMB Pod, Instagram, X and Facebook, Ian Brewer, 442 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: Ian nine over on X right, rights in garage and 443 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you know, you know. Thanks, Ian yusuf 444 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: Na gheb on Instagram, rights and right on. I'm eagerly 445 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: anticipating the B York episode. Melissa Kohla writes let's fucking 446 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: go in response to the episode subjects we laid out. 447 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: I just want to say, also a special shout out 448 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: to Lou from Sick of It All, who is cancer 449 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: free and that is a great thing. Lou, of course 450 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: is the singer a Sick of It All, one of 451 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: the greatest hardcore bands of all time. Happy for you, Lou, godspeed. 452 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: Big congratulations to Justin g Over on Instagram. His son 453 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: is graduating high school and Justin psych Justin is also 454 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: old as Justin indicates to me he started late with 455 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: the kids, says his son is a rock and roll animal. 456 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: Trenton his son. Congratulations Trenton, congratulations Justin. There you go 457 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: at Disgrace slam pod on Instagram. On X on Facebook, 458 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: you guys want to get in touch, and that includes 459 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: you Pirates fans. You know, Red Sox aren't great, but 460 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: the Pirates, I feel like all they got is the hat. 461 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: That's it. That's when all you have is a hat, 462 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: a cool hat to cling to. It's tough, you know, 463 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: but you're in Pittsburgh. Okay, you have other options. I'm 464 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: getting that pillbox hat for my kid. Thanks for everyone 465 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: who brought that to my attention. The name that is 466 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: pillbox hat, best hat in the game. What am I 467 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: doing here? I can't what's happening? What's the recording software 468 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: is doing? What? 469 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: What? 470 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: Who? 471 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't normally spend a lot of time talking about sports, 472 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: but we do have a little thirty minute sports segment 473 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: here in the after Party, and that that pirate's hat 474 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: is on my brain, and I just want to say, 475 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: tell the Red Sox fans out there. The Red Sox 476 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: have won the last three games against, two of which 477 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: were against the Mets, who are arguably the best team 478 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: in baseball at the moment. And the Red Sox beat 479 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: the Mets twice. They beat the Brain before that. Braves 480 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: are about as mediocre as the Red Sox are, so whatever, 481 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: but there's a common denominator amongst those wins, and it 482 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: is the fact that Alex Korra, the manager of the 483 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: Red Sox, thrown out of the game last night and 484 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: was absent from the two games prior. I don't know. 485 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I don't know. I'm 486 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: just putting it out there. You guys tell me, all right, 487 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: I'll be back in the flash with your emails and 488 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Lamb Minute. All right, we are back and 489 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: you know what time it is. It is time for 490 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: the Hollywood land Minute, brought to you by the Hollywood 491 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: Lamb Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywood Lamb Podcast is, Well, 492 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Lamb Podcast is hosted by me. Every week 493 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: I tell you a story from the ni of Hollywood 494 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: and true crime. And right now we get over forty 495 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: episodes waiting for you. Episodes on Charlie Sheen, Danny Trejo, 496 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe, a whole bunch, Drew Barrymore, and we got 497 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: one this week on Jack Nicholson, one of the coolest 498 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: guys to ever do the whole Hollywood thing, also involved 499 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: in some pretty fucked up things from Hollywood history, and 500 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: he is a clip. The Boston Garden was electric, thousands 501 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: of fans on their feet, screaming at the top of 502 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: their lungs, green and white rally towels flapping in the 503 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: humid air, sneakers up and down the parquet floor. Kareem 504 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: Abdul Jabbar wiped the sweat from his goggles. Larry Bird 505 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: thought about how good the first three Budweisers were gonna taste, 506 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: and from a private box high above the action. Jack 507 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: Nicholson was yelling. He was always yelling at Lakers games, 508 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: and Jack Nicholson didn't miss Lakers games. He caught them 509 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: courtside with the Forum in LA. He'd been the team's 510 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: most vocal season ticket holder since the early seventies. But 511 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: he couldn't be courtside because he was on set. He'd 512 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: do everything in his power at a wrap production early so 513 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: that he could catch the action on a TV set 514 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: in his trailer. Jack didn't miss a game, even if 515 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: that meant flying from Los Angeles all the way to 516 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: Boston to catch Game seven, which is exactly what he 517 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: did on June twelfth, nineteen eighty four. The Lakers climbed 518 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: to the top of the heap year after year, division titles, 519 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: conference titles, championships. Just like Jack was king of his 520 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: own heap. He stood on top of that heap with 521 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: an Academy Award in each hand. And also, like his 522 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: precious Lakers, Jack Nicholson didn't take losing very well, so 523 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: Jack was understandably beside himself as he watched his team 524 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: fall to a fourteen point deficit in the fourth quarter. 525 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: Jack wished he was an earshot of the refs like 526 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: he was back home or the opposing team's coach on 527 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: the sidelines near his coveted seat. He'd like to give 528 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: Casey Jones a piece of his fucking mind. Right about now, 529 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: the Lakers suddenly got their mojo back. They cut the 530 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: Celtics lead to twelve points, then ten eight. With twenty 531 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: six seconds to go, the Lakers were down by seven. 532 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: Jack ran his fingers through his wild hair, and that 533 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: devilish grin of his suddenly sprouted on his face. They 534 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: were doing him climbing to the top of the heat, 535 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: but not before the Celtics Dennis Johnson could wipe that 536 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: grin off Jack's face. When he sank two free throws 537 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: with only seconds left, the clock kind of down to 538 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: zero and the buzzer sounded. The Lakers lost the championship game. Guys, 539 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: make sure you are subscribed to Hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 540 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast. Next week, We've got 541 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: an episode on Rocky Johnson's son. Okay, old school WWF 542 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: fans know who I'm talking about. Of course, I'm referencing 543 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: Dwayne the Rock Johnson. It's true crimey episode, but the 544 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: Rocks days as a young hood prior to his come 545 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: up in a lot more. But you're going to dig 546 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: this one. Check it out. Make sure you subscribe to 547 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: Hollywood Land On the email front disgrace slampod at gmail 548 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: dot com, Dustin Brazinski writes in with the subject Fish, 549 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 1: and the message is I would think someone with as 550 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: much musical knowledge as you wouldn't be so dismissive of 551 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: a band like Fish. They made a bigger impact on 552 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: the industry than any of the other artists on this list. 553 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: They have sold substantially more concert tickets than anyone on 554 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: that list. The list is, of course, the Rock and 555 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: Roll Hall of Fame list that Dustin is referring to. 556 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Fish invented the structure for the Modern Music Festival in 557 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six with the Clifford Ball seventy thou attendees 558 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: for a band with zero radio hits. The organizers of 559 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: Bonnaru credited Fish for helping inspire their infrastructure. Fish held 560 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: the largest ticket event in the world on New Year's 561 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: Eve nineteen ninety nine and played a six hour set 562 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,239 Speaker 1: from midnight time sunrise. In addition to all that, they 563 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: led one of the most debaucherous rock and roll lifestyles 564 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: from about nineteen ninety seven until their long hiatus in 565 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Finally, they're still killing it. Year 566 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: after year they rank in the top ten bands for 567 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: tour earnings. I think the rock and roll Hall of 568 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Fame should be about a lot more than just having 569 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: a few radio hits. Me personally, well, you know, I 570 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: agree with you there, Dustin Radio hits aren't the end 571 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: all be hall. I don't know how I was dismissive 572 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: of Fish. I'm not denying that I was. I'm sure 573 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: I was. I don't really care for Fish, and yeah 574 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: that's just me. That doesn't take away from anything they've done. 575 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: You can't like every band, I mean, come on. I 576 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: also think Fish is kind of silly as a band. 577 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Might have to do with flip flops. 578 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: Do they wear flip flops? I think flip flops have 579 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: something to do. Okay, Sorry, you're gonna hate me. You're 580 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: gonna hate me. I've seen Fish before, not on purpose, 581 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: did not love them. I love, how however, the passion 582 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: of their fans. I love their contribution to music. I 583 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: fully understand and did not mean to be dismissive of 584 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: what they have given, what they have achieved, how they 585 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 1: have impacted people. I love all of that. Now does 586 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: that mean I think they should be in the Rock 587 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame? I mean, come on, no, 588 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: The correct answer is no. Of course they shouldn't be. 589 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe I'll change my mind. I'm 590 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: partly saying this just to get a rise out of you, 591 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: Dustin and the rest of the Fish fans out there, 592 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: but partly because it's coming from a place. And I 593 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: mean this of sincere ignorance, I don't know enough about 594 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: fish beyond the surface level. We here are, however, doing 595 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: a Fish episode. It's in the works right now. It's 596 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: going to be out in a couple months. And some 597 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: things were brought to our attention which are very true 598 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: crime and super compelling. And here's what's going to happen, Dustin. 599 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to get into this episode, and as I'm 600 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: producing it, I'm going to be walking through the world 601 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks listening to Fish and a 602 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: band that I it's not that I it's not that 603 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of fish. I actively dislike fish. 604 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: But what will happen here, Dustin, is as I'm doing 605 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: this episode and putting together and walking through the world 606 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: listening to Fish, there will come a point where I 607 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: will become a fan of Fish. I guarantee it doesn't 608 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: happen with every band that I'm not a fan of 609 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: that we cover b of Fish. It's gonna happen. I 610 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: just know the age I'm at, the time of year, 611 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: all these different factors. 612 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: You know. 613 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: I like the Dead now, which I for years my 614 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: whole life. Basically, I did not like the Grateful Dead. 615 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: I've not. I get that they're different. So now, calm down, 616 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: I get that they're different. I didn't mean to say 617 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: that the Fish in the Great and the Grateful deads 618 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: are the same. Okay, I get that they're different. However, 619 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: you have to admit, Dustin, they occupy similar similar airspace. 620 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: They really do. And I wasn't on the Dead plane before, 621 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: but I'm on it now. So it's just a it's 622 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: just a hop, skip and a jump right there on 623 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: the tarmac over to the Fish plane. Okay, so I 624 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: may be there, I may be there with you writing 625 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: the same email to me in a couple months. That's 626 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: my point, Dustin, appreciate you and I guess yeah, I 627 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: appreciate fish. Disgrace sampod at gmail dot com. You guys 628 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: want to get at me about anything, you want to 629 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: reprimand me from my music taste, that is one hundred 630 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: percent okay. I'm trying to think of other sacred cows 631 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: that I don't like. Not the fish is a sacred cow. 632 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: There's a while there I didn't like The Who I 633 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: Know WHOA slow down, slow down. I felt that. I 634 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: felt that. I felt you guys get immediately nish. I 635 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: love the Who now, but there was a while when 636 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: I was a kid. It had to do with just 637 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, the kids in high school who liked the 638 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: Who and fucking Quadrophenia and just now, I think that's 639 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: that stuff as cool as shit. But just back then 640 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: I had my reasons. 641 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: Ah right. 642 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: If you guys want to support the show, you know 643 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: how to do it. You can leave a review on 644 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts. You can leave a review on spot And 645 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: if I read your review here on the after Party, 646 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: and you hear your review and you get in touch 647 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: with me, I will send you a little disgrace land 648 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: chosk whatever. We get lying around some pins, some shirts. 649 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes I even sign a book and send that out. 650 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: These reviews are not just to inflate my ego, which 651 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: they definitely do do. They are most certainly, first and 652 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: foremost about creating a mechanism to help drive discovery for 653 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: the show. Reviews help the algorithms, The algorithms get juiced, 654 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: and they delivered the show to more listeners. This review 655 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 1: on Apple podcast from am hosk eighty two says, Hey, 656 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: Jake is such a good storyteller, and I'm always entertained 657 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: when I've got this on. Luckily, lots of musicians do 658 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of dirt, so I'm hoping this podcast 659 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: can continue for the foreseeable future. It can, and it 660 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: will continue. There is no stopping us. There is no 661 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: shortage of stories. And whether it's a good thing or 662 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: a bad thing, I don't know. But news stories, they're 663 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: happening all the time, all right. We have an endless 664 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: well to pull from. Appreciate you, Thank you for the review. 665 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: Get in touch, am hosk eighty two. That was from 666 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, where you can leave a review, or you 667 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: can hit me up on Spotify. Like Ken Kinsley, who 668 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: writes in in response to our bas Scout episode, thanks 669 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: for shining a light on a visual artist. I didn't 670 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: think there was much more to be said about JMB 671 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: that hasn't already been said before, but you certainly found 672 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: a way to do so with style. Welcome to the 673 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 1: Visual Art Podcasting Club. Ken appreciate you. It's a short 674 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: trip into the Visual Art Podcasting Club. Get in touch, guys, 675 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: we'll hit you up with something. This episode is nearing 676 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: its end. We've got let's see, we got a little 677 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: more we're gonna do here and the bonus section of 678 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: the after party for those all access members, And if 679 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: you want to be an all access member, it's just 680 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: five bucks until I got to do Go to disgrace 681 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: sampod dot com slash membership and you can sign up there. 682 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: Five bucks is gonna get you this little extra bit 683 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: of the bonus episode, gonna get you ad free listening 684 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: as well access to our Patreon chat where I'm in 685 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: there blab in most days with the rest of the 686 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: disco community. And it's also gonna get you an extra 687 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: full episode exclusively for you guys from Disgraceland per month. 688 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: All right, so you get that going for you. Disgracelandpod 689 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: dot com slash membership all right, we are back. I'm 690 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: sitting here. I'm spinning this big wheel here with this 691 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: huge wheel. You can picture it's got. It's got like 692 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty names of musicians on it, and 693 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: it goes around and around and around, and then it stops. 694 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: Every now and then it stops on a different artist 695 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: from our archive. It just I just it. It's stupped 696 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: on Merle Haggard. Great episode on Merle Haggard. You got 697 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: to check that out from our archive. Also, I spun 698 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: it at a different time and it landed on fifty cent. 699 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard the fifty cent episode. 700 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: We got one episode on fifty cent. It should really 701 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: be like ten episodes on fifty cent. Check that one out, 702 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: jam packed episode. Yesterday, I was showing a friend and 703 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: I came in here and I spun it again and 704 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: it landed on Serge Gainsburg. You guys don't know who. 705 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: Surge Gainsburg is tremendous, tremendous artist, French artists great, hugely 706 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: influential on alternative music in America from the last three 707 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: four decades. Just incredible story. Bridget Bardow his one time 708 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: girlfriend was in the news this week. Pretty funny. Check 709 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: that out. And again, you know I was, I was 710 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: hanging out with some of the cooler people in my neighborhood, 711 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: and you know I wanted to, you know, impress them, 712 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: so I spun it in at Landed on Velvet Underground. 713 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: They were like, oh wow, this guy knows a shit. 714 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: Check out the episodes on Velvet Underground. I think it's 715 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: a two parter, right, I think so. We definitely did 716 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: a two parter on lou Reed. Anyways, you want access 717 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: to these archive episodes, it's easy. They're free there, available 718 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: on Spotify, They're available on Apple, They're available wherever you 719 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: get your podcast. Mister Matt Boden, our producer extraordinaire, will 720 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: have the specific episode information in the show notes of 721 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: this after party bonus episode to make these easier for 722 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: you to find. All right, let's recap, shall we. Number one, 723 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: My other podcast, hollywood Land, is alive and kicking over 724 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: in the hollywood Land Feed, So make sure you're subscribed 725 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: and following hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart App, 726 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Check out our recent episode 727 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: on Jack Nicholson. Okay, in the hollywood Land feed number 728 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: two right now in your disgrace, land Feed our episode 729 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: on boscout number three coming tomorrow, our remind episode on 730 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: gg Allen. I'm betting Boscot saw gg Allen play live. 731 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: I am I. I don't have that for sure, but 732 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that lockdown, but I'm betting that happened. 733 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: Number four, merch winners, get in touch. You know who 734 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: you are. Number five. Remember, no one cares about preserving 735 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. 736 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: And well that is a disgrace, all right. In honor 737 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: of this week's subject, Baskout, this is me reading you 738 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: the Billboard charts for the day he died on August twelfth, 739 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. Number one, Roll with It Steve Winwood 740 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: last week one, peak position one weeks on chart ten. 741 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: Number two, Hands to Heaven Breathe last week two, peak 742 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: position two weeks on chart eighteen. Number three Make Me 743 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: Lose Control Eric Kerman, last week forty peak position three 744 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: weeks on number four. Sign your Name Terrence Trent Derby 745 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: last week five peak position like four weeks on chart twelve. 746 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: The number five one two three Gloria Estefan Miami Sound 747 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: Machine last week six peak position five weeks. 748 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: Quit talking and start mixing.