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Speaker 1: think that the cultural shift. We've been talking a lot

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Speaker 1: about the political shift, and the numbers speak to that

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Speaker 1: with tremendous clarity. There's never been a worse time for

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party in our lifetime, and Republicans are probably

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Speaker 1: in the strongest position they've ever been in our lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Trump, Trump's team, the people around him, the

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Speaker 1: Republicans who have rallied towards sanity, those of us who

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Speaker 1: stood strong during COVID. I mean, you know, there are

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Speaker 1: by being a part of the army of patriots that

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Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh created and brought together. So you know, there's

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Speaker 1: it reflected, not just in the fortunes of the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party and of the downfall of what used to be

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Speaker 1: who say we shouldn't call them that, why are they

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Speaker 1: mainstream the Democrat corporate media, but also in the cultural

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Speaker 1: side of things, there are changes happening. We will not

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Speaker 1: get into White Lotus right now, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think I can do this anymore.

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Speaker 2: It is clear that I have a darker sensibility when

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Speaker 2: it comes to television, like I can put up with

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Speaker 2: more than you or producer Ali can. When it comes

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Speaker 1: Do not do well with. You know, maybe my mind

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Speaker 1: is more like a delicate flower these days when it

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Speaker 1: comes to my content at entertainment. I don't like things

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Speaker 1: him to choke on his crocket. I got him to

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Speaker 2: Almost sp my crocket coffee out everywhere? Body. Were you

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying sometimes, you know, some of

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Speaker 2: And sometimes there's too many bus there's too many bus,

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Speaker 2: some glasses in the television shows of late that you're watching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a bunch of a bunch of ladies out there

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Speaker 2: See, I will say this my wife has had to

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Speaker 2: Twenty years of late, all of the nudity I see

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Speaker 1: Great animation, great music, great stories, and this is stuff

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Speaker 2: research on this too. Snow White, adjusted for inflation dollars,

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Speaker 2: time to make an animated film. It made four billion dollars. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that puts it into context very well. And I

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Speaker 1: even with bugs bunnies, but put bugs bunny. Put that aside. Clay,

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Speaker 1: this new Disney. If you and I sat here scripting

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we could have done better than this.

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Speaker 1: They have changed. There's a whole listing of all these

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Speaker 1: So next week it's going to be worse, and the

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Speaker 1: Disney hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah, one all said

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Speaker 1: But the what is your favorite thing about the change

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Speaker 2: Are were fear and I totally agree with them.

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Speaker 1: Furious about this because this is like the chance of

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Speaker 2: They could have made a movie that was a ninety

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Speaker 2: But because they have decided that they need to be

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Speaker 2: I don't begrudge any story that is like Lost. Lost

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Speaker 2: it fit the story right. It's an airplane that crashes

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Speaker 2: So the idea that snow White needs to be replaced

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Speaker 2: historic relevancy of a show because it doesn't meet modern

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Speaker 2: And the example I'll give of this that I think

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Speaker 2: is actually the worst two of them Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: All Right.

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Speaker 2: I I've made it clear that I'm not a huge

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Speaker 2: fan of musicals, Okay, but I don't like the idea of, hey,

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Speaker 2: races are so inconsequential. Okay, When is the Country and

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Speaker 2: Western version of the Obama administration going to occur with

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Speaker 2: Blake Shelton playing Barack Obama?

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Speaker 1: Right? When? Why is it that in Hamilton the one

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Speaker 2: And this?

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Speaker 1: But what's the messaging there? Everybody, you know, I do

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Speaker 3: And I must just say this. This woman is playing

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, am I am I alone

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think if they had put Sidney Sweeney in as

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, how about the fact saying gal Gadou is

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Speaker 1: going over before we get to your calls, your emails,

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Speaker 1: Stealth two thousand and five, adjusted for inflation, lost one

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Speaker 2: movies that have made so much money the Avatars, billions

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Speaker 2: of dollars on those big swings. Okay, you shouldn't lose

434
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Speaker 2: massive amounts of money remaking something that everyone wants, like

435
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Speaker 2: that's the entire purpose of the remake is you can't

436
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Speaker 2: lose that the way you have a ten plath on this,

437
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Speaker 2: you can't lose money.

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Speaker 1: They think West Side Story in twenty twenty one lost

439
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million dollars adjusted for inflation. To bot,

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Speaker 1: how do you how do you make a West Side

441
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Speaker 1: Story remake that totally bombs? That's I don't even know

442
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Speaker 1: how that's possible.

443
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Speaker 2: Well, I would have told you a musical on television. Now,

444
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Speaker 2: they did make a lot of money on Wicked, but

445
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Speaker 2: in Chicago. Chicago was a big hit West Side story

446
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Speaker 2: is what's sixty seventy years old? Are there tons of

447
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Speaker 2: people out there clamoring to go see that? I would

448
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Speaker 2: have called that into question. The snow White failure is

449
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Speaker 2: to me again, why I think it's so fascinating is

450
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Speaker 2: I think it represents an era. Everybody loved snow White.

451
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Speaker 2: You find a pretty girl, you cast her as snow White.

452
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Speaker 2: If you're deciding to do remakes live action, which I

453
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Speaker 2: think is you know it's lazy, right, Like do we

454
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Speaker 2: really need to see a live action remake of The

455
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Speaker 2: Lion King, which is mostly CGI because it's got animals

456
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Speaker 2: in it. But you create this disaster and it's so

457
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Speaker 2: foreseeable and it follows buck in Everybody loves Star Wars.

458
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Speaker 2: Let's light Star Wars on Fire. Everybody they built the

459
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Speaker 2: Marvel franchise up and then they lit it on fire.

460
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Speaker 2: It's like they can't figure out how to go once

461
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Speaker 2: the Infinity War Avengers in game thing ended. It's like

462
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Speaker 2: everything has been on the backside of that a disaster.

463
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Speaker 2: I just and the Newest, the Newest Indiana Jones people

464
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Speaker 2: had issues with. I went and watched it, but you

465
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Speaker 2: took what made Indiana Jones great, his rugged individuality, and

466
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Speaker 2: you instead brought in a girl boss who was like

467
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Speaker 2: leading Indiana Jones around. And a lot of people said,

468
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Speaker 2: I watch Indiana Jones because he's the badass. I don't

469
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Speaker 2: need like a new character to be the leader here.

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Speaker 2: James in Texas wants to weigh in about Disney. James welcome,

471
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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 4: And the thing about it is is Disney would have

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Speaker 4: already known that the projected opening weekend for snow Watt

474
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Speaker 4: was going to be bad because they based it off

475
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Speaker 4: of pre ticket sales, so they are he knew this

476
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Speaker 4: as of a couple of weeks ago, and I believe

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Speaker 4: I saw on the news as of last week that

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Speaker 4: it was put before the Disney board to slow down

479
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Speaker 4: or make changes to their DEI slash Wop program. And

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Speaker 4: the board turned that down. They said keep it the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Micall. I'm not sure about that. I

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Speaker 2: will tell you, Buck, this ties in pretty well with

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Speaker 2: what I've seen with the rise of OutKick. Everybody loves sports,

484
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Speaker 2: how about just show sports, you know, like, let's just

485
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Speaker 2: have sports highlights and debate who the best is or

486
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Speaker 2: whatever else. Let's not have arguments about politics on ESPN

487
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Speaker 2: would be an easy fix. I think, Yeah, Disney share

488
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Speaker 2: this is Fox Business. A few days ago, our caller,

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Speaker 2: I think is refernd to this is correct. Disney shareholders

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Speaker 2: widely voted against a proposal to reconsider participation in the

491
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Speaker 2: Corporate Equality Index. So this is an anti DEI proposal

492
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Speaker 2: that came up and they didn't. Now we can get

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Speaker 2: into some of the details about this, but well a

494
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Speaker 2: lot of times with those proposals, the reality is the

495
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Speaker 2: and this is like diving.

496
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Speaker 1: We're getting into proxy voting now and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not most individuals voting. It's the large, often

498
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Speaker 2: left wing. Uh, this is where Vivek has gone. Black

499
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Speaker 2: creat culture, black rock, all this different black rock. Sorry, yeah, Alan,

500
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Speaker 2: in South Carolina, you went and saw the new snow White.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, here we go.

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Speaker 5: So so, my wife and I were screening the film

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Speaker 5: before we showed it to our children. And the best

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Speaker 5: way I can summarize the way I feel about it is,

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Speaker 5: you know, it felt like I was watching the end

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Speaker 5: of Planet of the Apes over and over and over again,

508
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Speaker 5: just this gut wretching, awful feeling. So you and how

509
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Speaker 5: old are you Allen, I'm thirty seven. So you and

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Speaker 5: and how many kids do you have? Two?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you and your wife on a date night

512
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Speaker 2: were like, Hey, we're gonna go watch snow White before

513
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Speaker 2: we take our kids to see it, which is interesting.

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Speaker 1: This was a reconnaissance reconnaissance mission.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that you would think compelled to go

516
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Speaker 2: to a Disney movie to see it first to see

517
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Speaker 2: whether or not you could take your kids probably not

518
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Speaker 2: a great branding side for Disney. Did your wife feel

519
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Speaker 2: the same way as you? What was her take?

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Speaker 1: She did?

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Speaker 5: I fortunately married a very conservative woman. But it's it

522
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Speaker 5: is really sad. We almost have to go on and

523
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Speaker 5: collect intel from the movie prior to, you know, exposing

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Speaker 5: it to our children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, thank you. I mean, in nineteen thirty seven,

526
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Speaker 2: do you think anybody was out there like, hey, I

527
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Speaker 2: don't know if we can trust Disney to go watch

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Speaker 2: snow White? To your point, Buck, hey, Robin Hood, is

529
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Speaker 2: this going to be too salacious? Is this going to

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Speaker 2: be too political for me to take my kid? Peter

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Speaker 2: Pan like Dumbo, whatever you want to point to. Do

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Speaker 2: you think that in the nineteen fifties and sixties and

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Speaker 2: even when we were growing up in the eighties and

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Speaker 2: nineties with Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin and all

535
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Speaker 2: those movies that there were any you might have been concerned,

536
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Speaker 2: are they a little bit too scary for young kids?

537
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Speaker 2: Those kind of things, But nobody was like, Hey, I

538
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Speaker 2: gotta worry about what the messaging is.

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Speaker 1: But you know, there's there's also something that's been lost

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Speaker 1: here in the creative industries, notably what we see in movies,

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Speaker 1: but also TV and and it's that a great story.

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Speaker 1: There's something universal in the humanity of a great story.

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Speaker 1: People just want great stories. They want they want good

544
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Speaker 1: guys and bad guys. They want you know, heroes and princesses.

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Speaker 1: They want triumph, they want trials and tribulation. You know

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Speaker 1: that they want the the the you know, right hand

547
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Speaker 1: best friend of the hero to come through in the moment.

548
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: I mean these things. And whether you set the story

549
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Speaker 1: in medieval Europe or you set the story in you know,

550
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Speaker 1: Southeast Asia or Central Africa, if it's a great story,

551
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Speaker 1: it's a great story. And we don't you know that.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what I find so so annoying about this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see, they have something that should be

554
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Speaker 1: viewed as you. What I'm trying to say is snow

555
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Speaker 1: White should be you to view it as something that

556
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Speaker 1: is a universal cultural phenomenon. That's why what you can enjoy.

557
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: That's where this is. Everyone can enjoy. Mozart is for everybody.

558
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: That's the great thing. It doesn't matter where Mozart was from. Ultimately,

559
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Speaker 1: the music is for everybody and for all perpetuity the

560
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: human race, and we should all enjoy it. We should all.

561
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Speaker 1: Don't even get me started about how incredible Mozart is.

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Speaker 1: Point is, they do this thing now where it's like

563
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Speaker 1: they're keeping score. Oh, we've had too many, you know,

564
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Speaker 1: there have been too many musicians or too many authors

565
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Speaker 1: from this place or that country, or of this skin

566
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Speaker 1: color or that gender, and so we have to do

567
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Speaker 1: other things now they don't. Actually, that doesn't work, and

568
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Speaker 1: they don't have to do that because we can all

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Speaker 1: appreciate the art for what it is. And that's where

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Speaker 1: I think I think so much of this falls apart.

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Speaker 2: That's why for me, Star Wars and now the Disney

572
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Speaker 2: movies are perfect examples of this. You had one of

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Speaker 2: the most successful movies in the history of the world

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Speaker 2: in Snow White. To your point buck. At least ninety

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Speaker 2: five percent of this audience have seen it, either as

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Speaker 2: kids yourselves, or as parents or as grandparents. You had

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Speaker 2: a built in audience that loved it, and then you're

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Speaker 2: trying to make it for a new generation. Well, wait

579
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Speaker 2: a minute, it's already been made and everybody loves it.

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Speaker 2: The remake idea in general doesn't make sense. But if

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Speaker 2: you're going to remake something, then remake it basically the

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Speaker 2: exact same story, because Snow White is transcendent in many

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Speaker 2: ways as a story, and the same thing is true

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Speaker 2: of Star Wars. I understand characters age out, but the

585
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Speaker 2: idea that Star Wars wasn't expansive enough in its audience.

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Speaker 2: It's the most expansive successful series in the history of

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Speaker 2: the world. Probably, is there anything that's made more money

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Speaker 2: than Star Wars from a movie perspective A series maybe

589
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Speaker 2: James Bond, just because they've made way more of them.

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Speaker 2: But basically Star Wars is the it's lucrative movie franchise

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Speaker 7: Dd Hey, Clay Holly from Maricopa, Arizona. The whole reason

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Speaker 7: that Tim Wallas is talking about being masculine is attributed

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Speaker 7: to you. You're the one that said there were no

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Speaker 7: masculine men left in the Democrat Party. So they listen

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Speaker 7: to you. They're coming out and trying to prove themselves.

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Speaker 7: Let it go, Clay, Ah.

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Speaker 2: I like the laugh there at the end that did

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Speaker 2: go megaviral, And I do think there's some element there

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Speaker 2: potentially of truth that they're responding to that because they

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Speaker 2: talked about it on CNN, and that echoed, I think

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Speaker 2: are resonated in Democrat circles.

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Speaker 1: And it does take a man who is particularly comfortable

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Speaker 1: in his masculinity to be all over the internet playing

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Speaker 1: the flute shirtless, which is right, pretty astonishing, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's that's high stuff.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you did amazing memes of me and

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Speaker 2: Trump on Air Force one involving me playing the flute.

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Speaker 2: Gayan in New York City w o R talked about

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Speaker 2: West Side Story. I didn't realize this. Did you know this?

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Speaker 1: Buck ee? Hey, it's gay in Manhattan.

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Speaker 7: You just trashed a West Side story which lost a

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Speaker 7: lot of money. News flash, it starred Rachel Zegler.

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Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, hold on important point. But we did

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Speaker 1: not trash West Side Story. I just said that it bombed.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see the West Side Story. I think the

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Speaker 1: West Side Story of musical is great for I'm not

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Speaker 1: a big musical guy, but you know, point being, I

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Speaker 1: did not know Rachel Ziegler was in that as well.

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Speaker 1: That is a pretty remarkable resume she's building up, you know,

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Speaker 1: she's somebody's niece, like, how is she getting these gigs?

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Speaker 2: Great question? Great question, And I have no idea. But again,

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Speaker 2: this movie is potentially based on the numbers, going to

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Speaker 2: lose hundreds of millions of dollars, So I do think

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Speaker 2: it's a sort of a cardinal signpost from making four

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Speaker 2: billion to losing hundreds of millions the snow White story.

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Speaker 1: What changes the dynamic inside of this Disney is still

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Speaker 1: a cultural phenomenon in this country. Disney is a holdout here.

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Speaker 1: If they lose enough money on this, will it change

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Speaker 1: or what has to change for Disney to stop the

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Speaker 1: woke garbage?

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Speaker 2: I think they have to stand up to their employees

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Speaker 2: because I think this is a lot of it's coming internal.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: You remember when they started bragging about how they needed

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Speaker 2: to have trans influence stories and everything else. This is

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Speaker 2: internal and the internal Disney employees do not reflect what

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Speaker 2: the external marketplace wants, and at some point in time

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Speaker 2: that becomes unholy purely from a business perspective, And I

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Speaker 2: think you're saying that with Snow White