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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden, and this is

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Speaker 1: the Creature Kringle Time special of Hallelujah, Creature Kringle Times. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's Creature Kringle Times, the Holy Birth of Condors, a

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Speaker 1: Miracle of Sea Lions, funny time efforts. That's right, the

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Speaker 1: tiny Sama Ferts discover this and mores as we answer

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Speaker 1: the angel question is it a miracle or is it science?

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Speaker 1: I'll stop singing for the rest of the episode to

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Speaker 1: food dude, Creature Kringle Times. Okay, that's it. Joining me

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Speaker 1: today is friend of the show, co host of George's

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Speaker 1: and turn Lower after Hours, and festive holiday person Christie.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Gucci mane a k A. Will Pool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me again, Katie, I am. I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: a festive person. I've been called jolly before. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: have a pretty big beard beard and white yet um,

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Speaker 1: but I have very rosy cheeks. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you can see in this light. My cheeks are always

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Speaker 1: bright red and and nobody ever notices until they think

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Speaker 1: that I should be embarrassed by something. And then they

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Speaker 1: asked me. Then then they pointed out and it's like,

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Speaker 1: have you not been paying it? You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: You Okay, you know exactly what I'm talking about. It's

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Speaker 1: the worst people point out that I'm blushing. I hate it.

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Speaker 1: It makes me turn even redder. But this time with Ray, well,

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Speaker 1: I yeah, my my cheeks stay this this red all

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Speaker 1: the time? Your Santa? Maybe I am? I I could

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, there could be some I need to get,

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Speaker 1: like a genealogy test or something, find out if I

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Speaker 1: have anything. Yeah, did you accidentally like of Santa at

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Speaker 1: some point, like not that I'm aware of, because that's

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Speaker 1: the Santa Claus like Tim Allen murdered a Santa and

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Speaker 1: then you become Santa sort of, I guess the highlander

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Speaker 1: think that's how that works. Maybe I pulled out, Maybe

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Speaker 1: I pulled out in front of Santa Sleigh one year

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Speaker 1: and as it ran them off the road and it's

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Speaker 1: in a horrible accident, and now I'm slowly turning into

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Speaker 1: Santa Claus. Yeah, I just didn't clear out your gutters

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Speaker 1: and then they froze and he slipped on them or something.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you know, there's all all sorts

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Speaker 1: of kind of legal loopholes that you can get yourself

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Speaker 1: into a Santa Claus situation. I'm not a lawyer, but yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you've got you've got the beard, you've got, you've got

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Speaker 1: the cheeks, you've got I think you've got, you've got

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Speaker 1: the jolliness. You know, you've got the thank you. I

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Speaker 1: have never been called jolly, which is uh, I think wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm a very jolly person. Yeah, you're like,

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Speaker 1: of all the the podcast I listened to, I would

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Speaker 1: say that you come across by far as the jolliest.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for once in my life someone has recognized

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Speaker 1: the jolliness factor. It's true I talk about parasites. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm not jolly, you know, exactly exactly, it's

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Speaker 1: not the subject matter. Jolly is all about the delivery.

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Speaker 1: It's about the delivery and the disposition. You are perstantly

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Speaker 1: positive no matter how you know. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: the animal kingdom, there's a lot of brutal, brutal stuff

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Speaker 1: that happens, but you always, you know, put a positive

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Speaker 1: light on it because it's part of just how it works.

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Speaker 1: And and that's a key key element of of you know,

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Speaker 1: putting your jolliest foot forward. Right, You think Santa Santa

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Speaker 1: Claus doesn't see the stuff he doesn't want to see. No,

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Speaker 1: he sees lots of stuff. God, yeah, that dude, Spencer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but he remains jolly. And today's shell is

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Speaker 1: gonna be real fun because we're talking about Creature Kringle

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Speaker 1: Times miracles. It's a miracle, Miracle on Creature Street, right,

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Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, yeah, there we go, Yeah, Miracle and

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Speaker 1: Creature s Yeah. I'm familiar with that movie. I've seen

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Speaker 1: it before. Yeah, yeah, where the little girl writes letters

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Speaker 1: the toy. I don't know that movie, The Miracle. I

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Speaker 1: pretty sure they remade it with uh, what's her name?

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Speaker 1: The little girl that I could be making this up?

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Speaker 1: The little girl that played um Matilda. Wait, are you

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Speaker 1: talking about Marra Wilson. Yes, who's been on this show before,

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Speaker 1: Haara Wilson. Was she in Miracle on? Was she? Oh?

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Speaker 1: My god? I should know this. She's a close personal

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Speaker 1: friend of mine. She was in the remake, right, close

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Speaker 1: as it's as much as I'm familiar with Miracle on

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, she's fantastic person, completely lovely person.

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about Coral. Anyways, it was a

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Speaker 1: great time, um and but we're also going to have

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Speaker 1: a great time today talking about Kringle Times miracles and

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Speaker 1: of course the most miracles and miracles on these creature.

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Speaker 1: Kringle Times nondenominational holiday to be celebrated by all and

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Speaker 1: whoever want to. You know, we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: about Immaculate Conception. Ok. We all know the story. Uh,

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Speaker 1: stay in the barn an Immaculate Conception, A miracle happened,

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Speaker 1: the holy and divine story of Baby Condor's being born.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I love Baby Condor. I love the Nativity

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Speaker 1: scenes that feature baby cardor. Yeah, it's it's just the

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Speaker 1: the wiseman and some sheep and a baby condor, and

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Speaker 1: And that's why every year and Creature Kringle Times, we

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Speaker 1: will burn incense of skunk. Uh, skunk smells. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: maybe some beaver. The isn't there some kind of strong

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Speaker 1: gotta put the condor back in Kringle Times. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm tired and sick and tired of

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Speaker 1: Creature Kringle Times. Creature Kringle Times, exactly. This is a

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Speaker 1: holiday celebrating the divine holy birth of the cutest, the

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Speaker 1: So I truly do love these birds. That's that part

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Speaker 1: is very genuine California condors are huge majesty vultures with

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Speaker 1: gorgeous black and white plumage and of course that saggy

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Speaker 1: it's an avant garde. Is the word I was struggling

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Speaker 1: Krilla's Backstory. She's actually good. I don't don't really know.

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Speaker 1: so beautiful birds. They have a wingspan of almost ten

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Speaker 1: knife through butter. That's amazing. They have these very very

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Speaker 1: sharp beaks that they don't use to attack pray. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they use them to tear through scavenged carcasses. Their bald

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Speaker 1: sweet babies. Um. So, the fact that California condors are

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Speaker 1: twenty seven individuals. So that is it's stunning, like twenty

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Speaker 1: good word. Absolutely, I will, I will remove the Oh,

420
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: this is a different episode. I was about to say,

421
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I will clean the poop off the front of my house.

422
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: Uh my, I will take down my poos safe system

423
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: and allow for condors to uh to step. In a

424
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: previous episode, we talked about how bees will put poo

425
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: on their entrances to their hives to ward off hornets

426
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: and uh, so yes, that is U. You haven't listened

427
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: to that episode. That is the screaming episode, probably from

428
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: a week or two ago. But yeah, I pick that out.

429
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: Miracles from the ocean, so uh, the ocean bears many

430
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: gifts like sharks and salt water and kelp and fish

431
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: and I could go on I won't, but uh, many

432
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: many miracles can arise from the ocean, and in fact,

433
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: a miracle has come to New Zealand because a bunch

434
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: of sea lions are taken over their golf courses, which

435
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: is I think great in my opinion. Yeah I am,

436
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: I am uh completely pro ruining golf courses. So the

437
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: New Zealand sea lion is a adorable, blubbery, wonderful sea

438
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: lion that used to live abundantly on New Zealand's mainland coasts,

439
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: but due to over hunting and commercial fishing, their population

440
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: in New Zealand all but disappeared as they fled from

441
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: the mainland to the small sub Antarctic Auckland Islands of

442
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: New Zealand. So they are big chunks uh. Males can

443
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: weigh up to nine hundred and nine pounds or four

444
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: and females way up to three pounds or one. So

445
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: females have a pretty unusual behavior for sea lions. They

446
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: and they're young will move far inland to avoid rowdy

447
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: harassment from males. They'll even live in like these forested

448
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: areas away from the coast with their young, so that's unusual. Usually,

449
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: seal sea lions stick to beaches or rocky areas near

450
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: the beaches, but they all go inland a good ways,

451
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: a way to get away from the rough housing of males.

452
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: What do you know, males are heads and other species.

453
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: They're taking the kids and go into the forest, go

454
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: into their mother in law a joke. Oh man, Okay,

455
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: all right, So that's the situation. That's wild, okay, But

456
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: that makes it even worse for them when human activity

457
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: is near the beaches, because things like roads and fences

458
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: and buildings can block their path. But despite the New

459
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: Zealand sea lions absence from the mainland for so long,

460
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: they are returning to the mainland for unknown reasons. So

461
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: they have slowly but steadily been coming back, and uh,

462
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: in order for them to survive back on the New

463
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: Zealand mainland, people are going to have to make some adjustments,

464
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to shake things up a little bit because

465
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to learn to cohabitate with a bunch

466
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: of sea lions. So their first yeah, exactly. They've shown

467
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: up at golf courses, hiking trails, private pools, which you know,

468
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: I think fair personally, Yeah, absolutely, I would be thrilled

469
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: if a sea lion showed up at my pool. That

470
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: would be that would that would be the coolest thing ever. Yeah,

471
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: And they're not aggressive. They are large and they can

472
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: bark loudly if they're feeling threatened, which may frighten people.

473
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: But no, they're they're not like, they're not really particularly dangerous.

474
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go up to one and like try to

475
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: hug it. It might bite you. It might not like that,

476
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: but you know, um, but they are much more threatened

477
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: by us. They have been hit and killed on roads

478
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: or intentionally killed, which there's there's a special place in

479
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: like Condor hell where you know, all these Condor jesus

480
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: Is go and like feast on your innards for an eternity,

481
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: uh for intentionally just for the hell of it. Well, okay,

482
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: all right, so we just solved that problem. The people

483
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: intentionally killing these seals are the carrion. There we go

484
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: that that the condors get in Condor Heaven. Right. I

485
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: think we're fine tuning this Condor religion and I love

486
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: it absolutely well. Yes, it's got it's got Greek vibes,

487
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: because I think that was one of the punishments of

488
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: a Greek of like Prometheus, that that Titan and Greek

489
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: mythology that stole fire to give to humans or something.

490
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: He had his like liver eaten by vultures every day

491
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: and then it would grow back and it got re

492
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: eaten by vultures, which seems harsh. You know, Okay, I

493
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: don't remember that part in the Ridley Scott movie. Um

494
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: that's uh. It's about as much as my knowledge of

495
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: her Metheus goes. So conservationists are looking into ways to

496
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: help human society and seal seciety merged together. They've like

497
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: run simulation programs to try to figure out where these

498
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: sea lions are going to try to go, and like

499
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: put up signs like hey sea lions here, just just

500
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: note make a note of that. And actually the repopulation

501
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: started in nine when a female New Zealand sea lion

502
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: came to the mainland to give birth to her pup,

503
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: and it has been steadily has been increasing since then.

504
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: And this is really important because as of you know now,

505
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: there are only about twelve thousand New Zealand sea lions

506
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: in general in the world out there, and the mainland

507
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: conditions for sea lions, even though it's populated by humans,

508
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: it's it's more favorable to them than the staying on

509
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: the Auckland Islands the whole time. Because the Auckland Islands

510
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: are colder, it may be fine for them to migrate there,

511
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: but you know, to take advantage of the warmer waters

512
00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: around the mainland for fishing and survival. Uh may really

513
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: help out their population, even if they have to share

514
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: the area with humans, as long as humans are willing

515
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: to cooperate, you know, sure, sure, sure, your gosh darn

516
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: golf courses. Seriously, the last thing the world needs is

517
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: another golf course. But the world always needs more sea lions. Seals, wait,

518
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: seals seals sea lions okay, different from seals, both completely

519
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: out of brain fart for a second. That is okay,

520
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's got seal in it, which is like,

521
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: yes it does. Yeah. I mean, I, for one, welcome

522
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: the return of being someone who does not live in

523
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: New Zealand. I welcome the return of the sea lions.

524
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: This is very this is very easy for me to say.

525
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I love wildlife and animals

526
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: so much that I would I would be thrilled. I'm

527
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: always jealous of videos of people like that live in Alaska,

528
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: U or you know, out West, or in Canada or

529
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: something where like there's a moose in their yard just

530
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: you know, destroying their trash can or something like that

531
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: is the coolest ever I wish. I wish that would

532
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: happen to me. Yeah, I wouldn't want to directly face

533
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: off with a moose, but if a moose was destroying

534
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: my trash can, and'd be like, you know, fair, fair

535
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: is fair that that trash can was looking at the moose? Wrong? Um, completely,

536
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the moose side every time. So we

537
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: all know the story of Tiny Tim and how he

538
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: defeated Scrooge in psychic combat, sending hallucinations of ghosts to

539
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: shame the old man into treating his father better. Right,

540
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: that was and that was my interpretation of the I've

541
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: I've never never thought about it that way, but that

542
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: is the coolest version of was it Christmas? Was it Christmas? Carol? Yeah? Yeah,

543
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. Uh wow, that's a much so

544
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: so do we think so we're talking psychic warfare here,

545
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: We don't think there was any kind of hallucinogen slipped

546
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: into the old man's like tea or something like that.

547
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of using the magneto principle where it's like,

548
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: oh no, not Magneto. I'm sorry, I don't know my

549
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: x men so great, doctor. I was so confused for

550
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: a second. I was trying to make the connection of like, okay,

551
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: professor X, Professor professor X. Yeah, professor X is is

552
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: like x men code name, right, Yeah, so I think

553
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Tinyton might have just been a professor X. You know, Okay,

554
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: that makes sense that psychic combat. I mean they're both British, right,

555
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: so I don't yeah. Yeah, And and like the the

556
00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: ghosts that they could be forced ghosts, you know from

557
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: this Yeah, yeah, we don't know if they're they're falling

558
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: Jedi um because that takes place in our universe as well.

559
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: It's just a long time ago and in a galaxy

560
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: far away, so we don't know what. We don't know

561
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: what the source of those ghosts are either. Um, it's possible.

562
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah. I mean, my favorite version of

563
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: the Christmas Carol is the Scrooge McDuck version. By far

564
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: that it's a classic. But speaking of Scrooge with Bill

565
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: Murray is a good one too. That's pretty sorry, I

566
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: completely I just butchered your segue. You just brought up

567
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: that you just brought up the Donald Duck version or

568
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the Scrooge McDuck version, and uh, that was going to

569
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: be flawless. Bill Murray, We're going to talk about some birds. Now,

570
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: Uh do these birds happen to have bills? They do,

571
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: in fact, so excellent. Hey, you know we did it.

572
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: We we we made it, we made it work. It's

573
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: a creature Kringle Times, miracle of our very I have

574
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: my creature Kringle Times. Carol does feature a tiny tim

575
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: except it is a tiny Bruce. And he is a

576
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: bird and actually kind of a large bird and a

577
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: silly bird and a sweet bird and who has a

578
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: beak disability that he has discovered an incredible solution to.

579
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: So Bruce is just an amazing, amazing bird. This is

580
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: the heart the most heartwarming of tails. He's the best best,

581
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: the best boy best parrot. So he has a keya

582
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: parrot from New Zealand. Again New Zealand, You're just rife

583
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: with uh miracles. So Kia's are large olive green parrots

584
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: with orange markings under their wings. And they are the

585
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: world's only alpine parrots. They have a mountain parrots. Yep,

586
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, usually parrots do like things like forests and jungles.

587
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, living up in the mountains, looking bird beautiful birds,

588
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: and they have these long, sharp curved beaks and they

589
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: will eat anything from carrion too, roots, insects, berries, and foliage. Uh.

590
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: And they live in burrows near the base of trees

591
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: and Kia's like many parrots, are highly highly intelligent. They

592
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: are capable of solving complex puzzles, stealing car keys, getting

593
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: into hiking backpacks, passport theft, damaging cars, and other fun crimes.

594
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Sheep vandalism is one of their crimes, sheep vandalism. They'll

595
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: they'll attack sheep and like pull off their wool. They

596
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: are sometimes called the clown of the mountains, which I

597
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: think is just kind of petty name calling because people

598
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: are jealous they're so good at crime, just so good

599
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: at crimes. Yeah, yeah, absolutely they are. Literally when I

600
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: say passport theft, they have been documented to steal passports

601
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: from people. So, you know, smart birds using their beautiful

602
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: bird brains for fun crime. Uh. And in studies, kias

603
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: have proved to be able to solve puzzles to get

604
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: a food reward, similar to how crows. New Caledonian crows

605
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: can also do this so kias can manipulate physical items

606
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: to get some kind of food. So an example is

607
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: pushing a marble through a tube to push a treat

608
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: off a pedestal down a ramp into a tray that

609
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: they collected from, which is way too clever for me.

610
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't think I figured that out. I wouldn't.

611
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't either. Um. Is there any evidence of identity

612
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: theft after the stealing of the passport, like any credit card?

613
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Fraug um, because I'm I'm assuming there is. These birds

614
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: sound intelligent enough to get away with that. I don't

615
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: despite never having been to New Zealand. I did lose

616
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: my credit card once and I did get a weird

617
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: charge for like two thousand pounds of millet. So then yes,

618
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: the answer is yes absolutely. Um uh wow, okay, alright,

619
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: so this is like, uh, New Zealand probably has its

620
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: own like department within the government that just focuses on

621
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Speaker 1: keya periods. Bird crimes. Yeah, bird crimes, yeah, bird crimes.

622
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well, bird crimes, They're They're amazing. I think

623
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't usually advertise the shirts on the show, but

624
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I think we do have some shirts in our store

625
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: that it's like one of them is bird crimes. The

626
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: shirt and shows a bird doing bird crimes. Um, so uh,

627
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: I'll do a link in the description. Why not, it's

628
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: it's Kringle times so exactly exactly so. But back to Bruce,

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Speaker 1: the best, the best, smartest Kia boy. Um, I love them.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I hope, I'm not I hope I'm

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Speaker 1: not rambling too much. I'm just so excited about Bruce.

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Speaker 1: I love him so much. He's should I love him

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Speaker 1: like a son. He is a Kia, but he's missing

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Speaker 1: most of his upper beak, possibly due to it getting

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Speaker 1: caught in a rat trap. But he was found and

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Speaker 1: rescued as a baby orphan, so already the protagonist of

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Speaker 1: basically every Disney movie, right right, so his rescuers made

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Speaker 1: sure that he could eat, but missing his upper beak

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Speaker 1: still presents a problem. Kia's need those long curved upper

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Speaker 1: beaks to preen their feathers to keep them clean and

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Speaker 1: free of parasites. But Bruce is a genius u and

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Speaker 1: the world cannot keep Bruce down. When he needs to

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Speaker 1: preen his feathers, he grabs a pebble, holds it between

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Speaker 1: his tongue and his lower beak and uses it as

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Speaker 1: a tool to comb through his feathers. The pressure of

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Speaker 1: the pebble wedged between his beak and the feathers allows

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Speaker 1: him to scrape dirt and parasites off. So he has

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Speaker 1: been invented a bird comb for himself. That's amazing that

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Speaker 1: displaying ingenuity like that, it never fails to amaze me.

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00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: I should assume that animals are just so much more

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Speaker 1: intelligent than I understand them to be. But when it

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Speaker 1: expresses itself like this, it just makes me realize that

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Speaker 1: like animals and and of all you know, uh kind

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Speaker 1: are just doing stuff that is intelligent constantly that I

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Speaker 1: just don't understand, you know. Uh. This is just one

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Speaker 1: that like we can relate to because it's I'll include

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Speaker 1: a link to a video of Bruce in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's as he's doing this, and it's really

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Speaker 1: interesting to watch because he picks up this pebble repeatedly

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Speaker 1: and he seems really he's very choosy about like the

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Speaker 1: kind of pebble he uses. He's got like his favorite

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Speaker 1: pebbles that he uses because he's you know, using one

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Speaker 1: that works well for him and there's a certain joy

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Speaker 1: in realizing that, no, we are surrounded by intelligent creatures

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Speaker 1: on this planet, you know, like we there's there's uh,

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Speaker 1: there's just so much like amazing behaviors that just to

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Speaker 1: be found in, even in kind of sad circumstances like

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Speaker 1: this poor bird had had this bad thing happened to him,

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Speaker 1: but he has used his his incredible bird wits to

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Speaker 1: make sure that he's happy. And there's this really cute

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Speaker 1: quote by one of his rescuers because like I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask them, like, well, why haven't you given him a

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Speaker 1: prosthetic beak? And it's like, well, you know, he's he's

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Speaker 1: basically figured out his own his own prosthetic, Like he's

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Speaker 1: he's uh, you know, he's he's got his own system

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Speaker 1: and and uh, that's I think, really really amazing because

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, sometimes these animals are that they

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Speaker 1: can figure out solutions to these problems and yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: just that's it's just mind blowing. I love it. It is.

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Speaker 1: I love it too. It's like you said, life wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to hold him down, and he didn't let it.

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Speaker 1: So wonderful. Uh So I hope Bruce has a wonderful

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Speaker 1: creature Kringle times celebrating Condor Jesus. Uh. This year he's

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Speaker 1: he's getting into Condor Heaven percent and they're going to

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Speaker 1: have all the uh what kind of what kind of

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Speaker 1: food does he eat? Again? And like we're talking like

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Speaker 1: nuts and yeah, yeah, insects stuff that carrion though, so

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Speaker 1: he can hang out with like Condor Jesus and they

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Speaker 1: can enjoy some carrion from some some naughty sinners who

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Speaker 1: ever hurt a seal intentionally I hate them, hate them, sorry,

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Speaker 1: hurt a sea lion intentionally sea lion. So yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's uh, that's that's our I guess, our new

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Speaker 1: Condor religion that we just came up with, which I

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Speaker 1: would assume is going to become a very popular religion,

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Speaker 1: probably will have you know, we'll have some crusades and

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Speaker 1: so on. So that's a that's a fun thing forward

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Speaker 1: to the followers. Would be called a congregration. Yeah, okay, alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: just one a day and that'll be all my time. Folks,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate you having me Katie.

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Speaker 1: Well before we go, though, don't you want to hear

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Speaker 1: the answer to uh, last week's Mystery animal sound game.

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Speaker 1: I would love to yes. So the hint from last

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Speaker 1: stweek's Mystery animal sound game or guess who's squawking? Was

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Speaker 1: tis the season? So who do you think it is squawking? Wow?

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Speaker 1: I'm so bad at this. I can't even tell, like

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Speaker 1: if it's like a bird or a large like reptile

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Speaker 1: or an mammal. Like I don't even know like which

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Speaker 1: wing of the animal kingdom to even start at. Uh man,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that is a wart hog? Mm interesting,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be so off. Well, it's not quite

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Speaker 1: a ward hog, but what it is is a reindeer,

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Speaker 1: a baby reindeer. What's a baby reindeer? Oh? I bet

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Speaker 1: that's a doorm Lots of you guys got this correctly,

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Speaker 1: But I want to congratulate the three fastest listeners, he

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Speaker 1: Congratulations did I had? The only sounds I knew reindeer

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Speaker 1: made were from the famous Christmas special with Rudolph. I

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Speaker 1: just assumed they talked like human beings. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have your your sort of image of Rudolph the

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Speaker 1: Red Nose Reindeer just like in all of these movies

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Speaker 1: just replace all of the audio with like raw raw.

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Speaker 1: I wonder, so, my dad was in the film business,

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Speaker 1: And have you ever seen the movie Prancer? I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. No, okay, he he shot Prancer up in Indiana. Um,

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Speaker 1: and uh it's a delightful, delightful movie. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: they got the sound olmes right for it. It kind

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Speaker 1: of makes me want to go back and rewatch it

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Speaker 1: and then leave a bad review on your dad's movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Um.

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Speaker 1: I love when I get to witness a person like

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Speaker 1: usually it's online learn for the first time that reindeers

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Speaker 1: are actual animals, like are not just mythical creatures, because

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Speaker 1: far more adults do not realize that, uh than than

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Speaker 1: you would assume. Yeah, reindeers are are real, folks. They're

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Speaker 1: they're real, real animals. I guess it's true that you

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Speaker 1: would think, like, well, they if they're depicted flying through

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Speaker 1: the air, they must not be like real animals. But yes,

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Speaker 1: they are very real animal They're very real animals. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that anyone who lives I guess in sort of

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Speaker 1: the more northerly regions of the world already know. Yes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: um I've have a I have a friend of mine, um,

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Speaker 1: very good buddy of mine who did not realize that

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Speaker 1: sloths were real creatures. He thought they were like extinct,

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Speaker 1: Like he didn't exactly sloths are extinct to be fair, right.

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Speaker 1: He he thought that tree sloths were similar to the

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Speaker 1: giant sloth and that they were long extinct creatures and

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Speaker 1: they did not still exist. And it's a it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a beautiful moment, you know, when when somebody learns

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Speaker 1: about the narwhall too. That's another one that like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought they just made up that up for the

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Speaker 1: movie Elf. You know that I thought that was a

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Speaker 1: mythical creature as well. There's so many animals that people

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Speaker 1: do not realize until they're adults that wow, these are actual, actual,

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Speaker 1: real creatures, but we only know them or associate them

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Speaker 1: with like pop culture, you know, film and television. You

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Speaker 1: know it's not real though. What's that birds? Their government drones?

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Speaker 1: They are They absolutely onto this week's mystery animal. Sound

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Speaker 1: a hint? People will pay out the nose for their poop.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? So the poop clue just makes

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Speaker 1: me think of the m M or what And when

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Speaker 1: I say that, I have no idea what that would

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Speaker 1: sound like, so I'm just are actually correct, which means

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna put a bunch of jingle sound

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Speaker 1: effects on that. So I'm sorry apologize. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to apologize for being right? Okay, Okay, the nose clue.

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Speaker 1: I did not know what the nose clue was about.

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Speaker 1: That threw me off. Heck yeah all right, yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately for you listeners, I jingled out the correct answers,

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Speaker 1: so you will still have to guess if you think

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Speaker 1: you know the answer to this week's mystery anal sound game.

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Speaker 1: Guess who's squawking right to me at Creature Feature Pod

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Speaker 1: aka a Christie Yeatin for joining me for this most

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Speaker 1: um uh to be here. We want to invite the

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