1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Welcome on in Everybody. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 3: It is the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: Buck Sexton Show and a. 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Lot to discuss, as is always Today's here. 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: More chaos at the border, but also more and more 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: people seeming to recognize that what happens at the border 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: affects you wherever you are. 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Across the country. 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: In New York, in la in Atlanta, in Chicago, you 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: name it. The illegal immigration issue and the wide open 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: border is a big challenge for the country. The Biden 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: administration doesn't want this to stop, so we'll continue to 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: cover that with updates. We'll also be joined later on 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: by a Senator Rand Paul, who wants to talk to 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: us about a range of things, including artificial intelligence. Depending 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 3: on who you talk to, it's just going to mean 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: that your poetry homework in the eighth grade is going 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: to get a whole lot easier, or the machines are 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: coming for all of us, and now humanity is effectively 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: on borrowed time. A lot of terminator references Skynet. Those 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: of you who haven't seen the James Cameron movies, maybe 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: now is a good time. I uh, well, I'll wait 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: till Senator Paul is with us, because he wants to 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: talk about what needs to be done to prepare the 27 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: regulations now for what's going to be for many a 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: life changing technology, at least in some ways. There's a 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: lot of that stuff, and we've got some other stories. 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: Clay tweeted out that a lot of college is just 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: getting rid of the COVID vaccine requirement, which is crazy. 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: They're such monsters. 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: I guess they just want all the college kids to 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: get the sniffles that they were going to get anyway 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: from the COVID virus that continues to spread like a 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: cold now. 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: But we can spend a little more time on that one. 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: That. 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I've got Rashelle Olenski too, Clay throwbacks. We're gonna 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: do some throwbacks. How effective do you all think the 41 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: CDC director under Biden was saying masking was? How effective 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: is Mask's We'll leave that out there. We'll give you 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: the answer, you'll hear it from her. A little throwback 44 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: plus Martha Stewart on the cover of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition. 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: So Clay, I have not pre cleared this with Clay forehead. 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: I want the Klay Travis take on the cover of it. 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: Not yet, no, no, I was just gonna ask you this. 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: This is not Martha Stewart. 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: How uncomfortable would you be, as a recently turned forty 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: one year old man if they came to you and 51 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: they said, Buck, we want you on the cover of 52 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated. How uncomfortable would you be to be posing 53 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: on the car I'll be honest with you, at forty four, 54 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: I think I would need like two months at forty 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: four to be ready to be on the cover of 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated. In any way. I can't imagine being eighty 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: one and being told that I want to be photographed, 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: and if they're giving me some you know, heavy duty, 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: you know, whatever edits and whatever alterations and whatever filters 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: I could get, I don't think it'd be a good look. 61 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: I have a take that may surprise you on this, 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: but we're gonna get to that later on. Because the 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: big story today all across the country, at least for 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: people who care about whether the Russia collusion mess was 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: an abject lie, is the drop of the Durham Report. 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: Many of us have been asking for a while here 67 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: where's Durham and the notion I'd been saying there's no 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: one going to prison over this. 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: That's that's not happening. All right. 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: We can be upset that it's not happening. We can 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: talk about the double standards. And yes, I am certainly 72 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: aware as we're talking about the Durham Report that the 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: IRS is apparently removed the entire team. This is right now, 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: probeing hunter Biden's tax returns after a whistleblower accused the 75 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: agency of trying to cover up financial crimes according to 76 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: the Daily Mail. Here we'll get to that as well, 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: But first off, the Durham Report is out, and here 78 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: is what CNN Zone Jake Tapper has to say about it. 79 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: Play one. 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: Regardless of the report is now here, it has dropped, 81 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: and it might not have produced everything of what some 82 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: Republicans howe for. It is regardless devastating to the FBI, 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: and to a degree it does exonerate Donald Trump. 84 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 3: It fully exonerates Donald Trump, not that he really needs 85 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: it at this point. Clay, Yes, it's it's devastating to 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: the FBI, but many of us had known this. This 87 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 3: is essentially the affirmation beyond a reasonable doubt of what 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: we've been saying for years about what happened with the 89 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Russia collusion lie. This is the worst. It's not even 90 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: to call it a dirty trick. This is the most 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: serious violation of constitutional norms and the good faith execution 92 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: of federal power that has occurred in our lifetime. And 93 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: the media was neck deep in all of it, pushing 94 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: it all along. And my challenge right now and looking 95 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: at this is there's just no accountability at all. 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 4: Now. 97 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: The journals who got Pulletzer prizes for this are like, oh, 98 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: I guess we got the whole thing wrong. 99 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: Let's move on. Yeah. That to me, let's start with 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: the journalist aspect to this, because if you truly care 101 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: about American democracy and you want to buy into the 102 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: soul of our nation as at stake and all this 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: bs that Joe Biden has been peddling with the idea 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: that America is in its darkest day since the Civil War, 105 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: that the threats it's Jim Eagle, it's Jim Crow two 106 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: point zero, that white supremacy is the biggest threat to 107 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: the nation. What happened with Russia collusion makes January sixth 108 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: seem like what it was a couple of hours of 109 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: varrioting in the midst of a year where we saw 110 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of hours of rioting, and the idea 111 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: that all of these journalists have been used as they 112 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: were to basically mobilize big media as a direct opponent 113 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump from the moment he came down the 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: escalator in twenty fifteen, Buck, do you remember Jason Blair 115 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: story at the New York Times? I tweeted about this 116 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: for people who don't remember, Jason Blair was a reporter 117 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: who engaged in fantastical, magical realism when it came to 118 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: many of the details that he peppered in his reporting. 119 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 2: And this was about twenty years ago. But when the 120 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: New York Times discovered that they had this fabulous that 121 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: they had this fiction writer on staff, they gave a 122 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: front page reporting to everything that Jason Blair had gotten wrong, 123 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: and they put the full might of their investigative power 124 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: behind looking into every story he had written, and they 125 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: apologized to readers for everything that he had lied about 126 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: and gotten wrong. And I thought about this story when 127 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: the final this Durham report came out, if you truly 128 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: still had an honest media, Buck, the New York Times, 129 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: the Washington Post, MSNBC, certainly CNN, but in particular those 130 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: newspapers which have hundreds of journalists that are theoretically pursuing 131 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: the truth every day. That's their argument. They would conduct 132 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: an exhaustive investigation, they would return all of their Pulitzer prizes, 133 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: and they would apologize to all of the audience that 134 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: has consumed any of their work for getting everything wrong. 135 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: Because a journalist job, in the truest sense of the word, 136 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: is to report facts accurately. And the New York Times, 137 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: the Washington Post and left wing media was so overcome 138 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: with Trump derangement syndrome that they engaged in the biggest 139 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: journalistic failure of any of our lives, and they effectively 140 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: became the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. So if 141 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: there was a full accounting buck, they would acknowledge all 142 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: of those failures, they would apologize to their readers, they 143 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: would pledge to never do it again. I just want 144 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: all of you to think about this for a moment. 145 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Think about how much more seriously the New York Times 146 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: took one reporter in Jason Blair, making up detailed facts 147 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: in stories that really didn't matter that much right compared 148 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: to what they're going to do here, and ask yourself 149 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: this question, why will they not apologize? Why will there 150 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: not be a full accounting, Why will they not own 151 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: up to all of their failures? 152 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: I would offer to everyone that the New York Times, 153 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: the Washington Post think that with Russia collusion, they did 154 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: their job because their job is not actually to report facts. 155 00:08:54,520 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: Their job is to advance the political interests through life, 156 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: emotional manipulation, propaganda, to advance the political interests of the 157 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: Democrat Party at the expense of the truth. Sure, at 158 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: the expense of fairness, the principles of journalism, no problem. 159 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: I think that's actually their mission now, that has been 160 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: their mission for a long time. They won't be open 161 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: about it because you never want to tell people you're 162 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: engaged in propaganda. You just want to do it. You 163 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: want to act like you're something else. You want to 164 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: have the benefit of the pretense of neutrality or objectivity. 165 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 3: And I think that that's what you see on the 166 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: media side. On on the FBI side, which we haven't 167 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: gotten into much yet. If the FBI can open a 168 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: full field investigation of people based on a rumor they 169 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: heard from a guy at a bar and do no sourcing, 170 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 3: no searching whatsoever on all their databases, nothing, no corroboration whatsoever. 171 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 3: The FBI can put a PISA on you, whoever you 172 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: are listening to right now, They can decide, Oh, I 173 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: heard a thing from a guy who said, you're a spy, 174 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: boom Fiza. That is what this report shows. 175 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: I used to read Fizer reports. 176 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: I worked in the TS world like this I thought 177 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: was something that had far better controls back when I 178 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: was working on it than it apparently does. But I 179 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: would say that the people that are talking about to 180 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: disband the FBI or abolish the FBI, I share the feeling. 181 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: But a few things. Okay, who's going to enforce federal law? 182 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: And do you want to start a new agency? You know, 183 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: this is what AOC said about ICE, abolish ICE Immigrations 184 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: and Customs Enforcement, and everyone pointed out I mean I remember, 185 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: because I was making the argument, you want to abolish 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: this agency so you can make another agency that enforces 187 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: immigrations and immigration law and customs. 188 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't really seem like a The. 189 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: Answer here is reform and take a chainsaw to the 190 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: structure that's already there. Get rid of any of these elements. 191 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: And this is an executive agency. You need someone who 192 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: knows how to do this. You need someone in charge 193 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: of the FBI, which would be not just the Attorney General, 194 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: but the President of the United States who is willing 195 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: to and understands how to really hack away the dead 196 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 3: wood and turn this into something that the American people 197 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: can be, if not proud of, at least I think 198 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: is reasonably reliable as a law enforcement agency. So that's 199 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: how I see it, right. I mean, people say abolished 200 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: the FBI. I'm like, okay, but what happens when someone 201 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: kidnap someone in one state and goes to another with 202 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: someone You know what I mean? 203 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: It's not as easy abolish the FBI. I'm sure there 204 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: are a lot of lower level FBI agents that are 205 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: still listen to this show. 206 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: They're good people and they stop drug dealers and murderers 207 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: and rapists from doing bad things. 208 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: The question I would have is do you even have 209 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: a name like Pretend that we win in twenty twenty 210 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: four and somebody comes to you and they say, hey, 211 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: the FBI is rotten a minute of them. We need 212 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: a new leader, right, Because I think Christopher rays a disaster. 213 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: I just I would love to start to hear some 214 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: of the political candidates discuss who should be in charge 215 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: of these agencies and who would make sense. 216 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: You know, I was on Fox Play in twenty gosh, 217 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, twenty sixteen, maybe it was twenty seventeen. 218 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: I referred to a deep state cabal. Let's just say, 219 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: someone very very high up in the Trump world called 220 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 3: me after they hit. It was like cabal, We like 221 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: that word, And all of a sudden, I was hearing 222 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: about the deep state cabal from Trump himself all over 223 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: the place. So it was accurate though. But that's really 224 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: what it is. It's not everyone. It's not every person 225 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: in the rank and file. It's senior level, politicized partisan 226 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: bureaucrats who also create a culture internally at a place 227 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: like the FBI that filters down into other people. I mean, 228 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: the corrosion. I'm not delusional. I know the corrosion isn't 229 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: just Andrew McCabe, who's gone, and you know other people. 230 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: It's cultural issue with in the FBI too, just like 231 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: the same by the way, same thing, CIA. Don't think 232 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: anyone I'm you know, I'm not going to defend the 233 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: CIA on this stuff at all. CIA was involved in 234 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: this craziness too with the other fifty one people signing 235 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 3: on the letter. I mean, there's plenty of bad stuff 236 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: we can talk about CIA, But if you want to 237 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: fix this, you need someone who understands, who is willing 238 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: to not biden, and then someone who's has the understanding 239 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: to go in there and really change a bureaucracy, not 240 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: just in terms of leadership, but the culture that is 241 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: replicated by the policies and the standards. 242 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: That the place has. 243 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: Which but it sounds boring when I talk about it, right, 244 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: but that's actually the way that you would have to 245 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: do this. 246 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: You need somebody to go in and. 247 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: You know, you could say you can elon musket right, 248 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: get rid of a lot of I don't know if 249 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: you get rid of eighty percent of FBI agents, but 250 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: you could get rid of a lot of people, a 251 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: lot of dead weight, and streamline things and create a 252 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: culture of excellence. That would be a better way to go. 253 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: Because there are always going to be federal laws, so 254 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: someone's going to enforce them, right. I don't know what 255 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: to say beyond beyond that for right now, but I'll 256 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 3: put this out there. If we have any FBI agent's 257 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: current reformer listening, we want to call in and weigh in, 258 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: what do you think of the Duram. 259 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: Report and what do you think about whether this is 260 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: fixable or not. 261 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: We might get some FBI guys or gals calling and 262 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: saying I don't think it's fixable. So eight hundred two 263 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: two two eight A two you would know, give us 264 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: a ring A week from today, my friends, on Tuesday, 265 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: May twenty third, please join me online before the Big 266 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: Show for an exclusive interview with an extraordinary market analyst, 267 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: Mason Sexton. You'll recognize the last name. He happens to 268 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: be my dad. We'll be talking about the Great Disruption 269 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three. A graduate of Harvard Business School, 270 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: my dad, Mason translated years of Wall Street experience into 271 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: a successful market timing service. I say extraordinary because he 272 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: received worldwide attention for his uncanny prediction of the nineteen 273 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: ninety eighty seven stock market crash, and then went on 274 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: to make many other incredibly accurate and timely market call. 275 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: Here are some quotes about Mason. He makes uncanny predictions 276 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: of market turns, said The New York Post. He could 277 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: be the next market guru, said the Economist. He called 278 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: the nineteen eighty seven market crash practically down to the minute, 279 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: said the Chicago Tribune. Now my dad is coming out, 280 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: coming forward with his first major prediction in thirty years, 281 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: something big, and it's going to be set in motion 282 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: over the next eight weeks. Want the details, Just go 283 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: online now to Disruption twenty twenty three dot com to 284 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: sign up. That website again is Disruption twenty twenty three 285 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: dot com. 286 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: From the front lines of freedom and truth, Clay Travis 287 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton. We'll welcome back in Clay Travis buck 288 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 289 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: We mentioned Ran Paul going to join us at the 290 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: two pm Eastern hour. Going to be a good discussion there. 291 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: We're breaking down the Durham Report. One and two also 292 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: mentioned we played yesterday an awful woke Miller Lite bud 293 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: ad and a beer ad and had fun with how 294 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: stupid it was. It was from March, not from the 295 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: exact day that we played it. Just want to give 296 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: you a heads up on that. Yes, still a woke, 297 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: ridiculous beer ad, but made in March, not after the 298 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: Dylan mulvaney right before it slightly less insane. Yeah, slightly less, 299 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: slightly lessonsane. They weren't trying to Miller Lite totally jump 300 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: into the woke universe in the wake of Dylan mulvaney. 301 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: So that makes a little bit more sense. This does 302 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: not make sense. However, by the way, unlike other media companies, 303 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: we tell you we get something a little bit wrong, 304 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: Come on, tell you that's called accountability. This is not accountability. 305 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: You heard how Caitlin Collins went after Donald Trump last 306 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: week on the CNN town Hall. Former FBI Director Andrew 307 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: McCabe went on with Anderson Cooper on CNN and said, basically, 308 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: everything in the Durham report, Well, it's a lie. We 309 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: knew from the very beginning. 310 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 5: This was never a legitimate investigation. This was a political 311 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 5: errand to exact some sort of retribution on Donald Trump's 312 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: perceived enemies in the FBI. That's what mister Durham has done. 313 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: And you stand by the original Russian investigation absolutely. 314 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: There is absolutely nothing new in this report, and I 315 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 5: stand by the investigative decisions that we made to open 316 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: the investigation first on the Trump campaign and the possibility 317 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 5: that the Russians are trying to influence it, and then 318 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 5: later on Donald Trump himself, and what did we find 319 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 5: out from Special Counsel Mueller's investigation The Russians did in 320 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 5: fact influence the campaign. 321 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: I mean, look, he's never going to change his tune. 322 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: But you can tell McCabe who was disgraced and who 323 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: is a liar and the prosecutor Durham who wrote this. 324 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: Everybody was initially saying on both sides of the aisle, 325 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: this guy's a season serious prosecutor with no history of 326 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: politicization whatsoever. And yet here we are, in a different 327 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: time period, in a different place, McKay would be the 328 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: head of the actual secret police, throwing people in the dungeons, 329 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: torturing them for information, or you know, just cauz. 330 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: And CNN didn't push back at all to the lies 331 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: that he spread with Anderson Cooper. I just want you 332 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: to compare how they treated Trump last week with the 333 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: lies that Andrew McKay was allowed to just spew right 334 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: there to Anderson Cooper's face. Look, my pillow will hook 335 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: you up. They've got an incredible offer right now. 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Click on the radio 344 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: listeners square to get this clearance price of twenty five 345 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: dollars on the towel set, enter the promo code Clay 346 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: and Buck. You can also call eight hundred and seven 347 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: nine to two thirty two sixty nine Welcome back. 348 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: To and Buck. We had the Durham probe drop yesterday 349 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: afternoon after the show. The short version is everything that 350 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: we've told you about the Durham probe. Now. I'm sorry 351 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: about the Russia collusion soft coup attempt against Donald Trump. 352 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: It was all true. They lied about everything. The other 353 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 3: side lied about everything, totally false, all lies. The FBI 354 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: completely and utterly disgraced itself. Journalism showed us that it's 355 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: really just DNC apparatus pretending to be speaking truth to power. 356 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: We know everything we've said was true. So we're right 357 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: about everything. It's a little bit like COVID. I'm not 358 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: gonna lie to you when we get something wrong. You know, 359 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: we just forgot where the Miller lite ad aired. 360 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: We just went a month with viral a little bit 361 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: after like it actually was made right. If we get 362 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: something wrong, we're always going to tell you because we 363 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 2: want you to know that when we get it right, 364 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: and we say we got it right, you can take 365 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: that to the bank. We got the Russia collusion lie 366 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: totally right. We've been saying it's it's crap all all along, 367 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: and you know, I see this now and it's frustrating 368 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: because there's no consequences. We're gonna take some calls. We 369 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: got a whole bunch of former FBI people called in, 370 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: which is not surprised. I said, Clay, We've got We've 371 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: got a lot. 372 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: Of law enforcement and military firefighter ems in this audience. 373 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: We've got a lot of that. 374 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: But I wanted to say that Clay is going to 375 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: bring us in in the next hour. Fascinating feud relating 376 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: to the border having to do with Eric Adams, the 377 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: mayor of New York City, and Joe Biden the President 378 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: over the migrants, and it's it's heating up between those 379 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: two Democrats, which is very interesting. We'll get to that 380 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: in just a little bit. What don't you just stick 381 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 3: around for all right? We have David and Florida retired 382 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: FBI veteran David, thanks for being with us. 383 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 6: Thank you. You know, the problem with today's FBI is 384 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 6: the people that are running the FBI have never done 385 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 6: the of an FBI agent. And this was a slow, 386 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 6: incremental process starting with Bob Muller when he was Director 387 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 6: of the FBI, where I call it, he molorized the FBI. 388 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 6: He turned the FBI from the greatest criminal investigative agency 389 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 6: the world has ever known are none, and he turned 390 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: that into a domestic intelligence agency what it was never 391 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 6: intended to be after nine to eleven and in response 392 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 6: to nine to eleven, because he wanted to proactively identify 393 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 6: persons that were engaged in and potentially threats to the 394 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 6: potentially threats to the country with committing acts of terrorism. 395 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: And they employed, you know, there's a big national security 396 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 6: apparatus analyst and we got so far afield from doing 397 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 6: actual criminal investigations where they start using undercover operations, heavy 398 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 6: use of informants to try to predict who, in fact 399 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 6: was going to be a threat. Now that there's there's 400 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 6: no war on teraso to speak, what do you do 401 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 6: with this big national security apparatus that you've built up 402 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 6: and have funded. You know, they're turning it domestically on 403 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 6: American citizens. 404 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: And David, this is fascinating. Sorry to cut you off. 405 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: You were in the FBI for twenty seven years. You 406 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: heard Buck and I talking about the fact that there 407 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: are a lot of really great FBI agents based on 408 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: your experience, you know what percentage, Yeah, ninety percent of 409 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: FBI agents in your experience would be good patriots trying 410 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: to solve crimes down. 411 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: And they've they've transformed the FBI into a domestic intelligence agency. Intelligence. 412 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 6: You know, you're you're not dealing with you know, probable cause, 413 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 6: reasonable doubt standard when you're dealing in the intel world, right, 414 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 6: And just like the use of FICE, the wire taps 415 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 6: and stuff on Carter Page, you know, it's like maybe 416 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 6: it's right, maybe it isn't, you know what I mean. 417 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 6: But they're supposed to go through a woods perceived and 418 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 6: all this that you know, document which they didn't do. 419 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 6: But here's the here's the other big part of this, right, 420 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 6: the Legal Console Division of the FBI and in the 421 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: in the division consuls who are like in fifty six 422 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 6: field offices. You have general consuls in the FBI that 423 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 6: you know, advise legally what you can can't do, what 424 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 6: agent should and shouldn't do. That was transformed, it was 425 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 6: It was started with free but then it was completely 426 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 6: put on hyper drive with Muller and then Coney. But 427 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 6: that's all been replaced with civilian attorneys. You used to 428 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 6: have FBI agent attorneys who work cases, came up through 429 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 6: the ranks, kicked indoors, made arrests, put cases together, worked 430 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 6: investigations from A to Z which resulted in successful constitutionally 431 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 6: based prosecutions. And then those people eventually would become the 432 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 6: FBI UH Division Consul or would go into Legal Console 433 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 6: Division and headquarters and would be the general Consul. Look 434 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 6: at the FBI today, they've all been replaced, many with 435 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 6: political appointees. All civilian people have never done the job 436 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 6: of an FBI agent FBI headquarters. And I'm not saying everybody. 437 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 6: There's a lot of good people and FBI headquarters, Okay, 438 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 6: but there are people in and I don't want to 439 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 6: call them leadership. I'll call the managers, okay, because they're 440 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 6: really not leaders. The people in these management positions of 441 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: FBI headquarters, they do minimum amount of time in the field. 442 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 6: They don't have any investigative background. They raise their hand, 443 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 6: they go up the headquarters and then they bounce back 444 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: and forth and supervisory positions all the way to the top. 445 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 6: And I gotta be careful with what I say, because 446 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 6: there's a lot of money behind, you know, the Peter 447 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 6: Strucks and the Andrew mccabs with their big fat contracts, 448 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 6: and there's a lot of lawfare going on. So I'll 449 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 6: say it this way. It is my opinion that the 450 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 6: mccabs destructs, all right. They never did the job of 451 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 6: an FBI agent. They spent so few years in the field, 452 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 6: and then they just went into management armchair quarterbacking what 453 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 6: other agents did. And I would it is my opinion, 454 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 6: all right that Peter Struck, a guy who worked for 455 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 6: encounter Intelligence, who had very little experience, I would I 456 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 6: would venture to say he rarely, if ever, went in 457 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 6: front of a federal grand jewelry to indict a case. 458 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 6: He probably I'm going to say my opinion, the first 459 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 6: time he really testified in open court or in an 460 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 6: open proceeding was that abomination of the performance that he 461 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 6: did it in front of Congress. 462 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: Okay, David, this is all. This is all. 463 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, my friend. We're running into a 464 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: break here in a second, but we appreciate you you 465 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 3: calling in. And I would just say, Clay, everything that 466 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: he's saying based on what I know from people who 467 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: have been in the FBI and what I can see 468 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: from because there's a lot of similar stuff happening in 469 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: the CIA in terms of the managerial bureaucracy, and the 470 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: way to get ahead isn't to be all at your 471 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: job and to be a patriot who focuses only on 472 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: the mission. The way to elevate actually, those people often 473 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: get harassed endlessly internal security is you know, going through 474 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: their stuff all the time because you know, you make 475 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: other people uncomfortable by trying to be excellent. The people 476 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: that kiss up to whoever's in charge downtown in DC, 477 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: at the White House or on Capitol Hill. 478 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: That's how you. 479 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: Actually get ahead in these institutions now by by you know, 480 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: kissing up to Pelosi and Schumer, and Biden or Republicans. 481 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: That's the way you get ahead. 482 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 3: And I think it's corrupted these institutions in ways that 483 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: we're seeing. And there's a lot of stuff that he 484 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: said there that was I thought, really spot on. I'll 485 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: just tell you that guy was on fire. Yeah, a 486 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: couple of things jumped out. And this is interesting in 487 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 3: the wake of nine to eleven. The focus on trying 488 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: to stop crime instead of catching criminals is I think 489 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: a really fascinating structural issue to contemplate because it goes 490 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 3: to the root of what we saw happen in the 491 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: Trump investigation. 492 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: We should never have had a. 493 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: Hybrid law enforcement and domestic intelligence agency de facto, and 494 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: that is what we have with the FBI. Now, that's 495 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 3: why you can see something like this occurring. I mean, 496 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: I'll say this the one the one thing when you're 497 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: on the CIA side that they were always, I mean, 498 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: from from truly day one. They're just like and understand 499 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: anything within American anything that's on US soil. There are 500 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: super strict rules that now, whether they adhere to them 501 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: or not, but I'm just saying that the mentality is 502 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: that they're you know, American persons get different treatment full stop. Right, 503 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: if you're an American, you know we're not able to 504 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: snoop the same way we would if. 505 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: You're some foreigner. 506 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: Overseas well, the FBI started to blur those lines. I mean, 507 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: you have countries like Great Britain has their their foreign 508 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: arm I six and their domestic arm m I five. 509 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: FBI started to fill an MI five roll posts nine 510 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: to eleven, and that shouldn't have happened. And this all 511 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: comes out of the nine to eleven Commission report and 512 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: the creation of DHS and the restructuring and to his 513 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: point about using the counter terrorism apparatus that we had 514 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 3: overseas to stop guys were blowing up car bombs and 515 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: lopping people's heads off on video. To use those same tactics, techniques, 516 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: and procedures against political opponents here is deeply unsettling. 517 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: And Buckett also builds on really what you've got is 518 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: the White House apparatus. When Joe Biden comes out and 519 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: says white supremacy is the biggest threat to our nation, 520 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: which is what he said yesterday as we discussed at Howard, 521 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: how do you think you get get promoted in the 522 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: FBI by finding white supremacist and base. So you basically 523 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: have a propaganda war that is now being propagated in 524 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: addition to, as you said, going after your political adversaries. 525 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: But there's so much crime that goes on in America, Buck, 526 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: as you well know. If the White House, if Joe 527 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: Biden comes out and wags his finger and says, we've 528 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 2: got to catch every white supremacist, how do you get 529 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: it promoted inside of the FBI by fulfilling the narrative 530 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: that he is demanding that you pursue. 531 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: And which is a part of this too. What you're 532 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: saying is absolutely true. And you see this also where 533 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: Democrats come in and they want to use you know, 534 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 3: the CIA and the NSA to deal with the climate 535 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: change problem. Right, and then all of a sudden you 536 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: have people that are staffing up offices like lunatics to 537 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: you know, take take satellite pictures of glaciers that you 538 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: could just you know, look on Google Earth and mind. 539 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: But anyway, we'll get back into more of this. You 540 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: can see how to handle the FBI component of this 541 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: is a bit it's a I know, whatever it's saying 542 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: going to abolish, abolish, and I understand why, and I 543 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: get the feeling What do we really do though, right? 544 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: What do we do to change it? How can there 545 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: be accountability? 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I can't even keep trying. 579 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: I was in La yesterday, I got back at two am. 580 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: I gotta be in New York tomorrow. I got no 581 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: idea what day it is? Tuesday edition of the program, 582 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: and I gotta tell you this is I think. As 583 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: you start to break down the larger FBI related issues, 584 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: why the person who is in charge of personnel if 585 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: we went in twenty twenty four, is going to matter 586 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: to such an extent. And obviously we talked about yesterday 587 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: the battle in Iowa between DeSantis and Trump, but we 588 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: told you that this is coming. For everybody out there 589 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: who's a huge Desantist person, you're saying, well, you know, 590 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: he's so much better than Trump, He's more likable. They're 591 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: going to try to turn DeSantis into a much more 592 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: dangerous version of Trump. You can already see this underway. 593 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: And that's what What do you think The people who 594 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: are the dumbest and the most likely to spread whatever 595 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: talking point you need are good friends on the View 596 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: Sonny Houston, who is in a constant war with joy 597 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 2: Behar over who is the dumbest member of the View team. 598 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: She had this to say. 599 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 7: What scares me about Ron DeSantis is that he offers 600 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 7: trump Ism without Trump. So those people that are so 601 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 7: repelled by Donald Trump, and there are many people, won't 602 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 7: be as repelled by him, I think. And those manufactured 603 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 7: culture issues seem to be very effective with that base, 604 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 7: that particular base, and part of the Republican Party as well. Definitely, 605 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 7: the right wing part, but I think that he can 606 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 7: be affected. 607 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: I would really love to ask Tony Houston when she 608 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: says there's so much she says that's stupid, But I 609 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: would really love to ask her manufactured cultural issues. I 610 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: want to ask Tony Houston what she thinks when she 611 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: sees video of transvestites dancing in front of small children 612 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: in fishnet stockings and thongs. Who are actually, you know, 613 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: let's say, thirty five year old men who are shaking 614 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: their butt cheeks and doing the things that we've seen. 615 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: You know, I want to know, is that a manufactured 616 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: cultural issue? I just want to know we're not manufacturing it. 617 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean I think, first of all, she's 618 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: not very smart, but she's the smart one. To be clear, 619 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: she's the smart one on that panel. To be they 620 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: know that they can toss out claims like these and 621 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: that they will be run with. I mean, this is 622 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 2: what's so fascinating me. If DeSantis ended up the nominee. 623 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: Once you have branded Trump as hitler, which they have 624 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: on the left in this buck, how in the world 625 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: do you argue DeSantis is worse than Trump when Trump 626 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: is Hitler? Well, see this, it's hard to kind of 627 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: take that next, like, who's worse than Hitler? I don't 628 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: I don't even know who DeSantis could be for the 629 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: analogy to continue to apply. 630 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: They can't, you know, the Libs can't go with Stalin 631 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 3: because they actually like Stalin despite the millions of people 632 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 3: murdered and everything else. And they can't go with Paul 633 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 3: Pott because Libs don't know histories, don't even know who 634 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 3: Poul Pott is, That's what I'm saying. And you know, 635 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: so they really they're they're out of they're out of 636 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 3: savery historical figure. No, they don't believe in Satan Clyde. 637 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: I do hope. That's that's the challenge. Once you go 638 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: to this guy is Hitler and they have clearly gone 639 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: there with their Trump derangement syndrome, how do you elevate DeSantis? 640 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: I guess you could say this guy is Hitler part two, 641 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: but there was never a Hitler part two. Right to 642 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: your point, they don't know the history of Stalin, they 643 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: don't know they don't even know historically anybody else to 644 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: point to a they don't believe in Satan, So like, 645 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: is who is the analogy they can make for Ron DeSantis? Yeah? 646 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: The issue they have is they can't walk it back 647 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: at all. They have trained their audience to think in 648 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: terms of almost prophetic apocalypse, right, like something horrific is 649 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: going to happen because the other people's political. 650 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: Candidate is in charge. 651 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: And they can't walk that back because then it just 652 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: starts to sound like they're boring to their audience. They've 653 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: been doing nothing but catastrophism of since twenty sixteen when 654 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: Trump came into office, So I don't think they can 655 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: turn that off or turn that down. That's why they 656 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 3: feel like the only move here is to say that 657 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis is even scarier than Trump. And by the way, 658 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: I wonder about this too, does that kind of offend Trump? 659 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: You know what? 660 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: Trump hears that, They're like, you know, he's even scarier 661 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: than Trump. I bet Trump is like, actually, I'm scarier, 662 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: way scarier to you lives. You know what I'm saying, 663 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: Like Trump is the you know, he's the haymaker thrower, 664 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: Like I don't think he wants to hear that anyone 665 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 3: else is. 666 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: Throwing bigger haymaker. It is such a funny question to 667 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: think about. I means Trump offended that DeSantis is the 668 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: scarier version. And also if Desantas won, how do they 669 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: pivot from Trump is hitler to now DeSantis has vanquished Trump, 670 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: but actually he's more hitler Y than The analogy is 671 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: going to be so difficult. I'm fascinated to see how 672 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: the ladies of the view will make that full pivot. 673 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 3: He just doesn't think they will just lie and say 674 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 3: dumb things and not worry about the inconsistencies, the lack 675 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 3: of context, or the general brainlessness. 676 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: That's what that's my guess. Even Eric Adams is fed 677 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: up with what's going on at the border. We'll talk 678 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: about it next