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Speaker 1: Hey, we're back with Ken Rosenthal Live. Ken, how are you?

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Speaker 1: How are you? From some hotel room in America.

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Speaker 2: It's basically how Can lives his life as he goes

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Speaker 2: from game to game.

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Speaker 3: Here exactly, I'm in San Diego getting ready for FS

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Speaker 3: one tomorrow night. San Diego Padres hosting the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Should be an excellent series. Ken. We'll get into that

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Speaker 1: more or later.

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Speaker 2: But you wrote about Roman Anthony and obviously had a

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Speaker 2: big home run last night.

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Speaker 1: We talked about him earlier in the show, his maturity when.

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Speaker 2: You look at a guy like this, Ken, I mean

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this in the show, but like, how important

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Speaker 2: is it for him to be the total package if

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Speaker 2: he's going to come up and not just have the

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Speaker 2: physical tools, but you know, the mental tools and being

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Speaker 2: able to really embrace everything that goes along with being

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Speaker 2: a big deal to the.

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Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox, which is a very tough market to survive.

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Speaker 3: In, Britt, it's always important to be that kind of person,

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Speaker 3: and he seems to be the kind of player, the

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Speaker 3: kind of young man who was just utterly unfazed by

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Speaker 3: anything that's going on around him. So when I wrote

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Speaker 3: that column, that was leading into the series. It was

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Speaker 3: about kind of how he's met every challenge so far

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Speaker 3: in a big way, and here he is going into

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Speaker 3: next eight or nine years, because he signed long term,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't expect that it was going to be

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Speaker 3: that much of a soothsayer that I can tell this myself.

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Speaker 3: So he goes into the Yankee Stadium last night, Game one,

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Speaker 3: draws a walk, has a game tying single, and then

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Speaker 3: of course the home run, which was an absolute dagger

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Speaker 3: in the ninth inning, a two run shot to make

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Speaker 3: the score six to three. I would say he looked unfazed.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's stay with some young guys in

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Speaker 4: the American League East Sami Basio just sign an extension.

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Speaker 4: Obviously we can look at the numbers. Obviously we can

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Speaker 4: look at the player, But can you hit on more

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Speaker 4: of the long term ramifications and just the overall picture

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Speaker 4: of the Orioles who are doing bad this year but

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Speaker 4: are still expected to win.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things here, Eric, First off, the implications

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Speaker 3: for the industry when you see young players like bassioh

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Speaker 3: like Roman Anthony, like Jackson Merrill sign these deals. I

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Speaker 3: always see both sides of it. Certainly, if it's my

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Speaker 3: it's really tempting and you never know what will happen

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Speaker 3: to set you up for a long time. The other

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Speaker 3: side of this is when these young guys sign these extensions,

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Speaker 3: they are sacrificing the chance to earn even more, much

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Speaker 3: more money at a later time. Now, Basillah was a

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Speaker 3: guy who would have been a free agent, I believe

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Speaker 3: And those are young ages for free agents. We've seen

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Speaker 3: it's five. So all of that is clearly a concern

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Speaker 3: for the Union as they try to push the salary

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Speaker 3: structure forward. And I know most fans sit there and say, well,

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Speaker 3: what's the difference, man? The guy's making one hundred million,

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Speaker 3: the guy's making five hundred million. There is a difference,

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Speaker 3: and it does matter. But again, I see both sides

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Speaker 3: five hundred and six million, six hundred million dollar player

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Speaker 3: if he becomes a free agent Pisia. I'm not so

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Speaker 3: sure about the position. It question makes it a little

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Speaker 3: bit different. Of course, Jackson Merrill center field, and my goodness,

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Speaker 3: he could have hit the jackpot. But these guys made

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Speaker 3: their choices, and I'm sure they're comfortable with their choices. Now.

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Speaker 3: From the Orioles perspective, I heard Andy Coska earlier talk

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Speaker 3: I don't care what position he plays. He's going to hit.

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Speaker 3: We've seen that already. He's one of these guys who

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Speaker 3: sixty seven million, sign me up. The real question for

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Speaker 3: the Orioles will be, as Andy mentioned, what they do

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Speaker 3: this is a good step. And people might say, well,

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Speaker 3: Westburg all these other guys, Well they're all different. Henderson

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Speaker 3: represented by Scott Borris, as is Jackson Holliday. Scott Bors'

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Speaker 3: clients generally go to the open market. Doesn't always happen.

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Speaker 3: So passioh was the guy. He was the guy who

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Speaker 4: He talked about the broader picture. I want to talk

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Speaker 4: about the broader picture of those three contracts. Merrill, rom

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Speaker 4: and Anthony and Bassio. Does this can this give fans

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Speaker 4: an idea of how much money teams I don't want

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Speaker 4: actually have a successful career, shouldn't it give fans an

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Speaker 4: idea of when your team says, ah, we don't want

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Speaker 4: it's really not that much money in the scheme of

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Speaker 3: It's not if you look at it on a an

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Speaker 3: annual basis. Excuse me, So, yes, it's sixty seven million

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Speaker 3: for VISAIOH, but it's over eight years. It's one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty million for Roman Anthony over eight years, one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five for Jackson Merrill over nine years.

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Speaker 3: When you break it down like that, it's very club friendly.

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Speaker 3: And obviously, if these players went year to year then

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Speaker 3: the same time, teams will say these contracts can be

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Speaker 3: Maybe visioh is a bust. I don't believe that is

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Speaker 3: a very high likelihood, but it could happen. We've seen

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Speaker 3: And there is also, Eric, I'm interested to hear your

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Speaker 3: he gave all these guys money and now, well, it's

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Speaker 3: not necessarily all working out in your favor. Injuries occur,

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Speaker 3: as with Spencer Streider in their case. So Eric, I

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Speaker 3: wonder what you think about that trend. Just from that perspective, ft.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: I can hear that. I can hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: But we started this out talking about the talking about

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Speaker 4: the article that you wrote about Roman Anthony. They all

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Speaker 4: we didn't even see this guy. They've known him, they've

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Speaker 4: I see it as a player's point of view, there's

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Speaker 3: Eric, it's actually a good point. And when I wrote

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Speaker 3: He just wants to go play, and there's value in that.

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Speaker 3: Let's face it, if Roman Anthony did not sign that deal,

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Speaker 3: another angle to this that definitely is worth considering.

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Speaker 1: Ken I want to stay in the Al East.

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Speaker 2: I want to go to the Blue Jays, who Shann

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Speaker 2: Bieber's making his first start tonight, and he I think

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Speaker 1: Didn't cost an arm and a leg because he hasn't pitched.

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Speaker 1: He's coming off Tommy John. So the Blue Jays were

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Speaker 2: and during today. Could this be a potential big impact

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Speaker 3: Is the best case scenario. No, doubt, Britt. Now, they

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Speaker 3: They're like Seattle to me. They've got to prove it.

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Speaker 4: Right Another team on the doorstep or going out the doorstep,

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Speaker 3: They're fine and they're going to be fine, and once

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Speaker 3: So I expect that they're going to be a good

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Speaker 1: Up the Astros. Can we talked about the Padres Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: I'll be there this series as well.

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Speaker 2: I know recently on your show Fair Territory you said

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you an opportunity here, Ken does your what

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Speaker 2: And are you going to change who you think wins

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Speaker 3: First off, Britt, you know this because we work together.

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Speaker 3: My predictions are awful, always awful, and they're worth nothing.

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Speaker 3: They're ready to take the next step. Now are they

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Speaker 3: and the Dodgers are the team to beat until proven otherwise.

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Speaker 3: But the Dodgers had a chance this week to maybe

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Speaker 3: They've got defensive questions with Taoscar Hernandez. They've still got

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Speaker 3: And it's understandable when you're coming off a championship one.

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Speaker 4: All right, real quick. This series is obviously close and

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Speaker 4: I expect a Ken Rosenthal article about why only two

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Speaker 4: It's the Brewers and the Tigers. I think the Tigers

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Speaker 6: Right to write that article just yet, Eric, not a

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Speaker 6: bad idea, Always welcome for any ideas that come my way,

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Speaker 6: or grateful I should say home field with Peco.

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Speaker 3: Park, Yeah, that's meaningful because that place is electric and

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Speaker 3: Dodger Stadium. Certainly last weekend they like beating the Padres,

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Speaker 3: here they are. They've reinforced themselves in the deadline. They've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely get to feel probably like a playoff atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: Ken thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: As always, check out Fair Territory Mondays and Thursdays