Speaker 1: Welcome to Bullyball. I am Rachel Nichols.
Speaker 2: I got the Marcus Cousins as always, and we have
Speaker 2: a special guest friend. Oh yes, Rajon Rondo is joining
Speaker 2: us from Kentucky, where You're back as a student, right,
Speaker 2: is that what's going.
Speaker 3: On with you?
Speaker 4: Correct?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm back in a little Kentucky in my hometown,
Speaker 5: but I drive twice a week to down.
Speaker 4: In the UK.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What are you majoring in?
Speaker 5: I'm back in school finishing my degree. I left school
Speaker 5: so many years ago. Now I'm usually the oldest guy
Speaker 5: in the class, but nevertheless, get my degree in human
Speaker 5: communications and just continue to pursue my education to get smart.
Speaker 5: Every day, I had some idle time, so I wanted
Speaker 5: to kind of just get back and learn.
Speaker 1: I love this. What are the other students in class
Speaker 1: think of you being there?
Speaker 5: Some of them could be my kids age, but I
Speaker 5: know some are you know, eager to see me. And
Speaker 5: at first it was a little bit annoying. You know,
Speaker 5: people are taking pictures while I'm in lecture classes and
Speaker 5: tagging me and kind of you know, being a little
Speaker 5: bit of distraction. But that's part of it, and I
Speaker 5: knew going back to campus that it wouldn't be you know,
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be totally discreet, So I was okay with it.
Speaker 5: But for the most part, I made it out. I
Speaker 5: moved pretty quickly, and I go directly to where my
Speaker 5: classes are probably closest to the buildings, and I get
Speaker 5: in and out.
Speaker 1: You didn't bring Boogie back with you, But come on, he.
Speaker 4: Lives too far.
Speaker 3: He'll take us.
Speaker 4: I think he's going to shock ro out.
Speaker 3: So you'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: It's all online, all online. But would you go back
Speaker 2: and get your degree?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Man, one day, one day, I'm gonna see how it
Speaker 6: works out with Rondo, pick his brain a little bit
Speaker 6: about and I see what I can do after that.
Speaker 3: So we'll see.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're if you're getting an advanced
Speaker 2: degree in communications, I expect nothing but the best on
Speaker 2: this podcast today, Dove.
Speaker 1: So we're off and rolling. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: I do want to talk a little bit, just wrap
Speaker 2: up from the n season tournament that happened last week,
Speaker 2: because if we look at what the Lakers did in
Speaker 2: that tournament, guys, Anthony Davis had just a dominant game
Speaker 2: right there at the final and look he's playing against
Speaker 2: a team that does not have the greatest interior defense
Speaker 2: going on. It's going to be a lot different when
Speaker 2: you've got some of the great bigs of the league
Speaker 2: that he's going up against in the playoffs. But still, Ron,
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you just you know, you're someone
Speaker 2: both of you guys played with ad.
Speaker 1: You guys know what he's capable of when he is on.
Speaker 1: What did you see.
Speaker 2: From him though in that game and sort of how
Speaker 2: can he continue to lock that in going forward? Because
Speaker 2: that consistency is what we're looking for from him.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: I mean we both know personally, DeMarcus and I what
Speaker 5: he's capable of, and the world knows as well. But
Speaker 5: that game in particular, he put the team on his
Speaker 5: back and took care of business and it was a
Speaker 5: one game win situation.
Speaker 4: I never doubted.
Speaker 5: I never thought that Lebron wouldn't win it, and he'd
Speaker 5: be the first to win it. You know, that's how
Speaker 5: his mindset he is, and pretty much everything he's done
Speaker 5: in life, he put his mind will, he gets it done.
Speaker 5: So I'm happy for those guys and Coach Ham as well,
Speaker 5: Coach Handy.
Speaker 4: They will deserve Oh am, my young guy as.
Speaker 1: What do you think, puck.
Speaker 3: Man, I think Gady he stepped up and did what
Speaker 3: he had to do.
Speaker 6: You know, he's taking a lot of criticism over the
Speaker 6: past few seasons after that championship, and you know people
Speaker 6: are down on him to talk about, you know, his
Speaker 6: lack of effort and things of that nature. But you know,
Speaker 6: Ad came out and reminded the world of who he
Speaker 6: is and how great of a big he is at
Speaker 6: this game. So you know, obviously, as fans of the game,
Speaker 6: you want to see this on a consistent basis and
Speaker 6: on a nightly basis. He's showing that he could still
Speaker 6: do this at a high level. So you know, whatever
Speaker 6: it takes to put that fire under him to make
Speaker 6: him continue to do it on a nightly basis, it
Speaker 6: needs to be done. But this is the Ad we
Speaker 6: want to see, you know, from this night moving forward,
Speaker 6: and obviously he can make it happen and he can
Speaker 6: do it, so you know, his talent has never been denied.
Speaker 6: Sometimes you feel like Ad, you know, kind of gets
Speaker 6: in gets content with you know, playing this team basketball.
Speaker 6: He's somewhat forgets that he's a superstar and you know,
Speaker 6: this is what he can do whenever he wonts. So
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's getting caught up in the
Speaker 6: emotions or whatever the case may be, but this is
Speaker 6: the AD that we.
Speaker 3: Want to see.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm sure he's hurting the chatter, but I
Speaker 5: think I think they said that during the game, documented
Speaker 5: that the day they will give him the ball immediately.
Speaker 5: You know, they went to him right away and playing
Speaker 5: with the guy like AD, playing with the guy like
Speaker 5: Kevin Garnett. You know, it's different personalities, but Kevin would
Speaker 5: at times, but you know he'll like bring that fucker
Speaker 5: down here, you know what I mean, He's gonna let
Speaker 5: me know right away. Playing with eighties more kind of
Speaker 5: you know, reserved passive in a sense. But when he
Speaker 5: does get to that start talking shit, you know. I mean,
Speaker 5: Brian was talking a lot during that game, and she's
Speaker 5: been miked up. He's been he's been talking and giving
Speaker 5: this guys confidence and like I said, going through Ady.
Speaker 5: So I think that's that plays a big part as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it's funny bring up KG.
Speaker 2: No one had to light a fire under KG right
Speaker 2: the way book you just said, if this lights a
Speaker 2: fire under him, that sort of thing I mean again,
Speaker 2: you guys were you guys played with Anthony, like you
Speaker 2: know him so well, why don't we get every night
Speaker 2: him playing the way we all know that he can play.
Speaker 6: Like I said, I just think sometimes he kind of
Speaker 6: gets caught up in the motions and just kind of
Speaker 6: becomes content with just playing team basketball.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: You know, obviously that's what from a team standpoint, you
Speaker 6: want that, Like you want guys to be able to flow,
Speaker 6: You want everybody to be able to touch the ball,
Speaker 6: find the rhythm in the game. But it's at certain
Speaker 6: points where ad we need you to go be a
Speaker 6: sup superstar. We need you to go out and get forty.
Speaker 6: We need you to carry the team. We need you
Speaker 6: to go be the most dominant player on the floor
Speaker 6: and obviously show that with this end season tournament. But
Speaker 6: moving forward, we need this on a consistent basis.
Speaker 5: I think my bad, but I think, like I said,
Speaker 5: I think his guard played for has a difference. You know,
Speaker 5: look at the road and the season he had with
Speaker 5: I think Schroder mm hmm. The first show I think
Speaker 5: got to my departure. So you know, like I said,
Speaker 5: with Brian forcing the ball to a D like I
Speaker 5: think that's that's just what the game plan has to be.
Speaker 5: Whether it's awesome, that's doing it now from here on out,
Speaker 5: d Lo well Bron, but you know you have to
Speaker 5: go through ad first. Let him carry you, let him
Speaker 5: draw the foul, let him destroy the paint, and then
Speaker 5: everyone else trickle off from there because you know, the
Speaker 5: game is the pace is so fast. Every want to
Speaker 5: get their shots and their attempts. But for the most part,
Speaker 5: I believe it setting the tone through the paint and
Speaker 5: not allowing him to shoot facing up my bed, Rachel,
Speaker 5: not allow him to shoot face up jump shots versus
Speaker 5: you know, put your ass in the post and get
Speaker 5: to the money, get to the free throw line.
Speaker 2: No, it's just gonna say that he was so dominant,
Speaker 2: and as you know, I love watching him play when
Speaker 2: he's on and he's such a great guy. To have
Speaker 2: him succeed the way he on that stage I thought
Speaker 2: was so killer and that you know, forty one points,
Speaker 2: twenty rebounds, five assists, four blacks. That's what the kind
Speaker 2: of player he can be. And I just I'd love
Speaker 2: to see it more often when they need him and
Speaker 2: they've had big, huge games that he has not been
Speaker 2: able to deliver those kinds of numbers, and then they
Speaker 2: have games where he does and it's up and down,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm I'm interested to see what we
Speaker 2: go going forward, and we'll see Jean, whether they make
Speaker 2: any changes before the trade deadline and try to put
Speaker 2: him get some players who can put him in some
Speaker 2: of those positions a little more often.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll see, all right, guys, Let's talk about the other
Speaker 2: side a little bit. Tyre's Halliburton great start to the
Speaker 2: season overall, and showed out so big time in this tournament.
Speaker 2: I love what we can see from him going forward.
Speaker 2: Everyone gets it. Everyone knows how good he is, but
Speaker 2: everyone knowing how good he is is also has repercussions.
Speaker 2: Right now, everyone's going to be looking out for him
Speaker 2: in a little bit of a different way. Do you,
Speaker 2: guys think that this tournament and how he did it's
Speaker 2: going to change how defenses lock in on him in
Speaker 2: the coming months or how other players see him.
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think he's that good. I
Speaker 6: think he's that talented. I think everything he's displaying and
Speaker 6: what he displayed throughout this tournament, I think this is
Speaker 6: him coming out to the world showing him, showing him his.
Speaker 3: Talent is real.
Speaker 6: He's the real deal with this game, and you know,
Speaker 6: he's putting the league on notice. So regardless of what
Speaker 6: defense is thrown on him, I think he's going to
Speaker 6: be able to go out and produce every night and
Speaker 6: lead his team. And he's shown that so far, so
Speaker 6: uh well, teams are just absolutely, But will it make
Speaker 6: a difference. I just don't think so, because his kid
Speaker 6: is that good.
Speaker 5: I couldn't agree with you more by you know, I
Speaker 5: think the ward hasn't noticed him because he's played in
Speaker 5: two small markets Docramento, Indiana, so people an't aware of
Speaker 5: his game.
Speaker 4: But I think the league been on notice.
Speaker 5: I think he's always been in the scouting port, especially
Speaker 5: this year in particularly, but again he's he's finding ways
Speaker 5: to uh count of those attacks and making the league play,
Speaker 5: making him pay.
Speaker 2: Where would you play though in the point guards right
Speaker 2: now this season? Is he make your top five for sure?
Speaker 4: Right now? Top five this year? Absolutely?
Speaker 5: I mean just the way he takes care of takes
Speaker 5: care of the ball. And I think they showed the
Speaker 5: stat the other day where he had you know, over
Speaker 5: fifteen assists six plus games and you got the guys
Speaker 5: some of the greatest guards to play the game still
Speaker 5: currently playing. You know, it's like three or four guys
Speaker 5: combined that has to do what he does because he's done.
Speaker 4: In the last five years.
Speaker 2: Well, you got what you got, Luca, Steph. Who else
Speaker 2: is rounding out your top five shade?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 6: It has to be in the uh ty rees?
Speaker 3: Uh? And you gotta throw Dean and Fox in there.
Speaker 3: I think it's yeah, I think it's a young guards
Speaker 3: league right now.
Speaker 5: It's a young guards league. I mean, man, it's a
Speaker 5: lot of names we just left out.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you said, but you said this year, this season, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: this season.
Speaker 6: It is a young guards league right now. We're leaving
Speaker 6: our Dame, We're leaving our Steph. Uh.
Speaker 1: I put Steph in there.
Speaker 4: I would say, you got tw different who you said
Speaker 4: who you got Rachel, you got Steph.
Speaker 1: I got Steph, Luca, Shay.
Speaker 2: I'm asking you guys to round up those are those
Speaker 2: are my three that I would say, like for sure,
Speaker 2: and then I'm asking you guys to round out the
Speaker 2: other two.
Speaker 1: But maybe they're not in your top maybe.
Speaker 5: Those because you got you got Tyrese or you got
Speaker 5: Diarnon Fox, I got.
Speaker 6: Tyrese Haliburton, I got de Aaron Fox, I got Shaye,
Speaker 6: I got Luca.
Speaker 3: Okay, what that f is? That fit? I mean it
Speaker 3: has to go to Steph.
Speaker 2: But sadly, I know who is not making your top
Speaker 2: five and anything right now is Zion Williamson.
Speaker 1: He's struggling a bit again.
Speaker 2: Especially the mid season tournament did not do him a
Speaker 2: lot of favors. Once they got to the knockout rounds,
Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal had some commentary.
Speaker 1: I want to play you a little bit of this. Guys,
Speaker 1: take a listen.
Speaker 8: I want to make some points about Zion. Okay, it's
Speaker 8: not run hard. There's not a this.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a lesson from one great big man
Speaker 7: to another guy that could begin does.
Speaker 8: Not run hard. I had the same problem my first
Speaker 8: over year. I follow was running hard. Charles talk about
Speaker 8: this all the time.
Speaker 7: My timely gonna get me twenty, But when I start
Speaker 7: going to twenty, thirty and forty, it's because I start
Speaker 7: doing certain things. He doesn't create easy points for uself.
Speaker 7: I saw a couple of times we had a couple
Speaker 7: guys at the basket. If he don't seeal right, he
Speaker 7: doesn't demand the ball like he got a small guy
Speaker 7: and we talk about all the top barbecue chick alert,
Speaker 7: Charles talk about all the time, you can't let a
Speaker 7: little guy guard you. And he doesn't have that look.
Speaker 7: Like I'm not the greatest athlete ever, but I know
Speaker 7: a look when I see it in every sport.
Speaker 8: I know a look.
Speaker 7: Tiger Woods had that look. Jack Nicholson had that look.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, he just doesn't have
Speaker 7: that look, and he doesn't rebound. He does not rebound.
Speaker 7: I'm sitting there and I'm watching because you know, Charles
Speaker 7: was on him, because you know that's Charles's category. I
Speaker 7: don't want to be on that are but he's not
Speaker 7: what you're saying this also because he could be the
Speaker 7: he could be the best player in the.
Speaker 8: Elite in the league, in the league, yes.
Speaker 7: And at the best player in the league.
Speaker 8: Again, I was just like him. So I don't want
Speaker 8: to sit up here, you know, like I was just
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 7: But you know, people used to like pull me to
Speaker 7: the side, you know how a guy named Brad Seischer
Speaker 7: who used to always say, hey, man, okay, you have
Speaker 7: twenty four points because you know that working as hard
Speaker 7: and I'm like, what are you talking about that? So
Speaker 7: once he decided to get that killer and go for it,
Speaker 7: he's going to.
Speaker 8: Be a dangerous one.
Speaker 2: So guys, look, it's not just the guys on TNT.
Speaker 2: It's not Shack. Although that was pretty damn and coming
Speaker 2: from him. The New Orleans Times PECUN put out an
Speaker 2: article just after that saying that basically Zion has not
Speaker 2: been working on his conditioning or wait the way that
Speaker 2: they expect to in the organization, and that he just
Speaker 2: won't listen to people when they try to get him
Speaker 2: on the right track.
Speaker 1: What do you take away from all that?
Speaker 2: But when you hear that as a big man, what
Speaker 2: do you take when you hear all of this criticism
Speaker 2: of Zion and also what you saw last week in
Speaker 2: Las Vegas.
Speaker 6: It's a lot of things I could say that you
Speaker 6: know plays a part in this, But the biggest thing
Speaker 6: I would say is, you know the leadership within the
Speaker 6: locker room and the reason I say that to piggyback
Speaker 6: off Shaquille O'Neil, and I was also a guy that
Speaker 6: was in that position coming in earlier. I didn't take
Speaker 6: care of my body the way I should have. I
Speaker 6: didn't eat the way I was supposed to, and I
Speaker 6: dominated off of just pure talent, and it's Madi ironic
Speaker 6: he's on that show today with Rondo.
Speaker 3: But I didn't really take that jump.
Speaker 6: To that next level until I got a vet that
Speaker 6: could be in my ear constantly and always be on
Speaker 6: my ass and always have me, you know, putting in
Speaker 6: the extra work, doing the small detailed things that go
Speaker 6: behind the scenes, that you know, the casual fan doesn't
Speaker 6: get to see. On a neither basis, taking care of
Speaker 6: your body, eating the correct way, getting you know, getting
Speaker 6: the correct rest, watching film, putting in the extra work,
Speaker 6: getting being the first guy in, the last guy out,
Speaker 6: like putting up extra shots. Even after the games, you
Speaker 6: want to put up shots. So all these small things,
Speaker 6: you know, build you to that next level. So so yeah,
Speaker 6: Zion is getting a boy with talent right now, but
Speaker 6: it's time to take that extra jump, the extra stuff
Speaker 6: and actually start putting then the right things to to
Speaker 6: become that superstar leaders team to the new heights. So
Speaker 6: on one end, it's it's it's leadership, and on the
Speaker 6: other end, it's this is on Zion, When when when
Speaker 6: are you going to try to take that John? When
Speaker 6: are you going to hold yourself account But when are
Speaker 6: you going to start self reflecting and realizing you know
Speaker 6: you're not putting the putting the right things in the
Speaker 6: play to become the best player that you can be.
Speaker 6: So this is on Zion and this is also on management.
Speaker 6: I spoke on this last week. It's time to put
Speaker 6: the right pieces around him. If he's a defensive liability,
Speaker 6: you have to put the right pieces around him. If
Speaker 6: you know he's struggling with you know, listening and having
Speaker 6: that that voice to you know, right hit ship, put
Speaker 6: the pieces in in place to surround them. This is
Speaker 6: a huge investment, not only in the NBA but for
Speaker 6: the new or Repelicans. And with each investment you have
Speaker 6: to put the right things in place to make sure
Speaker 6: this investment it comes out on a positive note.
Speaker 1: So a Reddick in there with him that didn't work.
Speaker 1: That puts TJ. McCollum in there with him, who I
Speaker 1: think is a great voice, Lucky.
Speaker 3: It has to be relatable.
Speaker 5: It has being That's what it is like. It has
Speaker 5: to has It can be just a name in a sense,
Speaker 5: it has to be someone that particular player respects. Uh,
Speaker 5: someone that particular player. Can you know, look for guidance
Speaker 5: even on and off the court, you know, maybe on
Speaker 5: some big brother type of thing, because like for me,
Speaker 5: I was fortunate to have a guy like Kevin Garnett,
Speaker 5: and you know it's only right, you know, full store
Speaker 5: got paid my respects and back to the game by
Speaker 5: doing what I could for the young guys that I
Speaker 5: felt that were related to me, that were misunderstood that
Speaker 5: you know, may have got a different rep versus when
Speaker 5: I really get a hold to him, we changed the narrative,
Speaker 5: you know, when our mindset, My mindset shifted, so I
Speaker 5: couldn't agree with cous Moore. I think for me, it's
Speaker 5: accountability starting from the top allowed him to the way
Speaker 5: Shock broke broke his game down. I mean, you can't
Speaker 5: really argue with what Shaq's saying. All the things that
Speaker 5: he should be able to do, he's not doing but
Speaker 5: for me, until someone pushes him, until he pushes himself
Speaker 5: on a consistent basis, and there may be consequences if
Speaker 5: he doesn't, you know, then I think we won't see
Speaker 5: that Zion until we have those things in place.
Speaker 2: What are some of those conversations you guys said, I mean,
Speaker 2: did you have them with each other.
Speaker 4: I mean for me what I love.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course we had a lot of conversations, a
Speaker 5: lot of you know, we almost got into a bunch
Speaker 5: of a couple of fights throughout the season.
Speaker 4: Tell me, I meanus got he probably got the story.
Speaker 4: But for me keep it, not to keep it, you know. Uh,
Speaker 4: can we cussle the show?
Speaker 1: Yes, of course?
Speaker 4: Okay, as you on.
Speaker 5: Yeah here, Cousin, I had some crazy, you know situations
Speaker 5: in practice my Sacramento years, but it was, like I said,
Speaker 5: it was all love and fun and I understood, you know,
Speaker 5: his his his rage, his his passion for the game
Speaker 5: and the way he thought that he was doing something
Speaker 5: versus when I watched film because Cousins one of the
Speaker 5: first guys when I got the Sacramento because it was
Speaker 5: nothing to do there. But I did have one of
Speaker 5: my best years statistically, I think he had his as well. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but what I love to do was watch them on
Speaker 5: my game and then I will go back and study
Speaker 5: pretty much everything that he did throughout the game the
Speaker 5: same night. So it may take me far out to
Speaker 5: watch them, but you know, I would have a glass
Speaker 5: of wine, glass of gas, and you know, like I said,
Speaker 5: to break his game down.
Speaker 4: It was fun to watch him.
Speaker 5: And then, like I said, when I go into practice
Speaker 5: the next day, I would have, you know, my little note,
Speaker 5: so I would say to him, you know, he didn't
Speaker 5: do this this, you could have di better. I seen
Speaker 5: that elbow, you know what, they didn't call it. I mean,
Speaker 5: it was all type of little things I would pick
Speaker 5: up and watch him, try to help him get to
Speaker 5: that next level. And I don't know if anybody's ever
Speaker 5: done that with him, as far as breaking his game
Speaker 5: down and challenge him to, you know, okay, run the
Speaker 5: floor a little bit harder with this play. You could
Speaker 5: have got you know, four points, you should get the
Speaker 5: preter line six, you know, six times a quarter like
Speaker 5: this kind of breaking the game down, trying to make
Speaker 5: it easy for him and but also make it easy
Speaker 5: for myself. So that plays a big part. And designed
Speaker 5: I don't think he had that. He hasn't had that
Speaker 5: type of player in his locker room form.
Speaker 1: But what'd you think when Jeanne started doing that with you?
Speaker 6: It was annoying and ship, but at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, the results, Yeah, the results were exactly what
Speaker 6: we've been looking for. And the more and more I
Speaker 6: seen those results. The more and more I realized, like
Speaker 6: everything he's saying to me is only helping me and
Speaker 6: his team, you know, become better. So you know, at
Speaker 6: the end of the day, obviously this guy has my
Speaker 6: respect to the ultimate level and he's helped my career
Speaker 6: in so many different ways. So obviously it was it
Speaker 6: was everything I needed. And that's why I could sit
Speaker 6: here and speak on Zion and his situation because it's
Speaker 6: it's so famil and I've seen this before. So all
Speaker 6: it takes is that that right leader, that that that
Speaker 6: right bet to get in your ear and you know,
Speaker 6: steer that ship the right way. And this falls on
Speaker 6: the New Orleans Pelicans organization. You have to figure out
Speaker 6: what that guy is. You have to and you have
Speaker 6: to invest in having that piece come in so your
Speaker 6: initial investment designed could be successful in every way possible
Speaker 6: moving forward.
Speaker 2: All right, Doe wasn't doesn't want to tell stories on you,
Speaker 2: but I want you to tell one on yourself.
Speaker 1: Give me an example.
Speaker 3: I want to know it's been. It was a few practice,
Speaker 3: just briefly, it was a few practices, you know.
Speaker 6: Where you know, Rondo threw a couple of hill bows.
Speaker 6: He probably knocked out a tooth of mine here and there.
Speaker 6: Oh really, Yeah, he's a little bully, so him being
Speaker 6: on bullets all the day fits perfectly.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: How hard was it to get, like to eat the
Speaker 2: way you should You said at the beginning, you didn't
Speaker 2: take care of your body the way you should have.
Speaker 2: And again that's something that just came out in the
Speaker 2: local paper down there in New Orleans that they're just
Speaker 2: you know, he came into design, came into the season
Speaker 2: actually in really good shape, and then since then that
Speaker 2: he's been up and down a little bit, you can
Speaker 2: see that he wasn't in great conditioning again last week
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: How hard was that for you? Did it take you
Speaker 1: to figure that out?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: The only reason I would say it's hard because you
Speaker 6: don't realize as a young player coming in when you're
Speaker 6: when you're young and youthful, like you can literally roll
Speaker 6: out of bed and go dunk the ball, like you
Speaker 6: can eat Matt Donald's before the game, you can eat
Speaker 6: Krispy Kreme donuts and all these type of things and
Speaker 6: it doesn't really have an effect on it. It's not
Speaker 6: until you start hitting that age of twenty five, twenty six,
Speaker 6: twenty seven, you might eat that bullshit and you're like, damn,
Speaker 6: my stomach gonna feel right, first play, first possession of
Speaker 6: the game. So it's you have to realize with with
Speaker 6: Zion coming in, he was a young kid, and with
Speaker 6: young kids, we all have bad habits.
Speaker 3: We all have bad eating habits.
Speaker 6: We eat chicken, chicken, fingers, sugar, just bullshit constantly throughout
Speaker 6: the day. And you know, when you're young, it flows
Speaker 6: through and it's fine. But like I said, Zion's now
Speaker 6: coming to that age where it's you know, the milkshake
Speaker 6: is starting to stick, starting to stick. You can see
Speaker 6: the little love handles through the jersey a little bit,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So all it's just realizing,
Speaker 6: like man, it's that time in my career where I
Speaker 6: have to make these changes if I want longevity in
Speaker 6: his career and I want to maximize, you.
Speaker 3: Know, a full career.
Speaker 6: So and like I said, also having that better and
Speaker 6: it'll help you realize that and you know, things start
Speaker 6: to come full circle. So it's about self reflection and
Speaker 6: accountability on this organization to make this or to write
Speaker 6: this ship. So it's very possible. It's just about going
Speaker 6: on and doing well.
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be interesting.
Speaker 2: I said, they brought in bets, maybe the right one
Speaker 2: hasn't clicked with him.
Speaker 1: It's no secret. It's not that they're trying. They're in
Speaker 1: no way.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be clear. They are not trying
Speaker 2: to trade Zion Williamson. But he has not been off limits.
Speaker 2: Like if you want to call and ask about him,
Speaker 2: you can call and ask about him. It'll be interesting
Speaker 2: to see if any team wants to think that maybe
Speaker 2: a change of pace or a change of scenery will
Speaker 2: help down the road. I don't know, but obviously that
Speaker 2: team is not going to be as successful as they
Speaker 2: want until Zion Williamson can be the player we know
Speaker 2: he can be. And I'm interested to see if that
Speaker 2: nowational attention he got this past week helps.
Speaker 4: What is the player that we think he can be? Like,
Speaker 4: I mean, what has.
Speaker 2: He I mean, he's so talented. He could get a
Speaker 2: little bit more engaged on defense. I think that could
Speaker 2: significantly help. I mean, he's just not putting forth the effort.
Speaker 2: I thought what Jack said about him not making easy
Speaker 2: plays for himself, it is true.
Speaker 1: He's not helping his teammates out on the floor.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good breakdowns out there right now, Zion,
Speaker 2: Who's just he's not He's not closing the way he
Speaker 2: needs to.
Speaker 1: He's just not doing a lot of the things that would.
Speaker 2: Help help players on teammates on his team execute what
Speaker 2: they need to execute. And if he can pull the
Speaker 2: rope more in all of those places, I think the
Speaker 2: whole team could get you know, the level of the
Speaker 2: team could rise up.
Speaker 4: But I think just you have to train that way
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can't just say I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 5: But if you don't train that way, you know you're
Speaker 5: going to look bad when you try to go out
Speaker 5: there and have that type of effort, and you'll show
Speaker 5: your lack of condition.
Speaker 2: I want to move on, guys, because I want to
Speaker 2: talk about the Suns a little bit. Bradley Beal is
Speaker 2: finally coming back on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: That's the schedule.
Speaker 2: Sons are actually only twelve and ten so far the
Speaker 2: seas in seventh in the West. But part of that
Speaker 2: is because Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, and KD have yet
Speaker 2: to play a single game together.
Speaker 1: So so what do you think is going to make
Speaker 1: the difference.
Speaker 2: How is Bradley Beal going to help lift this team
Speaker 2: up if he is able to come back as healthy
Speaker 2: as we hope and expect, and we.
Speaker 5: All know what he brings to the table. Obviously he's
Speaker 5: scored a ball at ease with the best of you
Speaker 5: know in the league. So being able to share the
Speaker 5: ball a bit more amongst Katie and book letting guys
Speaker 5: sleet off of him, he can run the pointy of times.
Speaker 5: He plays unselfishly when he wants, and I think, you know,
Speaker 5: if him buying into Frank Voger system, which I believe
Speaker 5: KTI has already defensively, I think they'll continue to elevate
Speaker 5: and be a lot better than obviously twelve and ten
Speaker 5: in the next twenty two games.
Speaker 6: The piggyback off Rondo, I think he just eases the
Speaker 6: pressure of the two stars. And you know, with any
Speaker 6: team you would you would love that. So regardless of
Speaker 6: who's being the ball handler, which he does, add that
Speaker 6: as well, an extra ball handler to this group with
Speaker 6: so whoever decides to beat the ball handler, you got
Speaker 6: two monsters coming out pen downs on both wings. So
Speaker 6: with any opposed team, it's on a nightly basis, just
Speaker 6: pick your poison. So yeah, I mean that's that's a
Speaker 6: great way to go into any game where it could
Speaker 6: be any guys night. You got three guys capable of
Speaker 6: getting you thirty to forty points every night. So the
Speaker 6: Suns are in a good place. But my question is,
Speaker 6: and this question is specifically for those with them, not
Speaker 6: you being a traditional point guard, and you looking at
Speaker 6: this team and noticing.
Speaker 3: That they don't have a traditional point guard.
Speaker 6: What's your whole take with that being a lack on
Speaker 6: their team's.
Speaker 5: As far as when things get tough, you know, when
Speaker 5: they when they hit adversity. You know, in the playoff game,
Speaker 5: they might be down you know, two or you know,
Speaker 5: it's a different type of scheme. Who's going to be
Speaker 5: able to manage egos? You know, coach can do it
Speaker 5: from a sideline standpoint. But during the game, you know,
Speaker 5: when Katie hasn't had the ball four possessions in a row,
Speaker 5: who knows that. You know, who's gonna say, okay, hold on,
Speaker 5: you hold on with this time? Bill, I know you
Speaker 5: made two shots and roll, but katie't to test the ball.
Speaker 5: We need to get him in the rhythm to flow. So, uh,
Speaker 5: that's my only concern with that not having a traditional
Speaker 5: point guard but at the same time, I think these
Speaker 5: the way the game is going books, you know, I
Speaker 5: think he's up and willing if they can off put
Speaker 5: their egos uh aside and figure out you know, I
Speaker 5: think book can be that kind of point guard going
Speaker 5: to the point guard roll. He's averaging eight assist a game,
Speaker 5: but just him not and not necessarily it is passing
Speaker 5: the ball, but understanding how to break the game down,
Speaker 5: keeping guys happy, you know, keeping yourself available and is
Speaker 5: a threat. And then also the role players, you know,
Speaker 5: cause that what we've seen to where we've had the
Speaker 5: big threes before and the three you know, scoring champs,
Speaker 5: you know, with guys like that in Brooklyn, you know,
Speaker 5: James and Kyrie and Katy. But you know, if those
Speaker 5: role players on step up and make make a change
Speaker 5: and make a difference three offense, juggernis won't make it work,
Speaker 5: won't won't make it happen and get it done.
Speaker 4: To play else.
Speaker 1: I think Booker's been really good in that role.
Speaker 2: I've been actually surprised, pleasantly surprised, like wow, I didn't
Speaker 2: know if he could. You know, it's a lot, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a really hard job, and I wasn't sure if
Speaker 2: he could add that to the other really hard job
Speaker 2: he is doing out on the court. I do think
Speaker 2: it is a great point, though, is that you're not
Speaker 2: tested in a playoff situation yet, so we haven't seen
Speaker 2: what he can do when you're in that kind of
Speaker 2: pressure and that kind of stuff going on and that
Speaker 2: level of everything else in the building around you going
Speaker 2: up and can you also add that second job to
Speaker 2: your regular job. But I feel better about this team
Speaker 2: doing it than some other teams. Like we saw with
Speaker 2: the Clippers, man like they needed a traditional point guard.
Speaker 2: They needed someone who understood how to play that role.
Speaker 2: And the fact that that's why you know James Harden.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it's going to work out. I
Speaker 2: don't know how overall that team is going to do
Speaker 2: when we're all said and done at the end of
Speaker 2: the season. But I will defend that trade because they
Speaker 2: needed someone in that role. The other guys on the
Speaker 2: team were not able to do that, and they needed
Speaker 2: someone to organize them in that way. I feel like
Speaker 2: with the Suns were maybe seeing that they're okay without it.
Speaker 2: I thought your point about Frank Vogel is really good.
Speaker 2: You played for him. You want title with him, Like,
Speaker 2: what do you think he is going to be able
Speaker 2: to do to help these guys in this situation?
Speaker 4: Lean on the staff.
Speaker 5: I think he also has a great staff that he
Speaker 5: brung along with him in Phoenix. Leaning on his his
Speaker 5: his background. You know he's had Lebron as well for
Speaker 5: a player understanding you know what I'm saying, get those
Speaker 5: guys are buying and how we made it work in
Speaker 5: the bubble, not necessarily saying somebody's gonna have to come
Speaker 5: out the bench one of those guys, but at the
Speaker 5: same time, just figuring out staggering minutes to where we
Speaker 5: do have a decent guard on the court that's making
Speaker 5: the right place and right moments down the stretch of
Speaker 5: the games. I'm interested in how they buy into his
Speaker 5: defensive schemes. That's one thing that I commend frank on
Speaker 5: is his thinking, his defensive mindset, the way he thinks
Speaker 5: the game, way he's made adjustments throughout games when I
Speaker 5: played for him. So if they can bind into that
Speaker 5: with the switching defenses and communicating, communicating at at a
Speaker 5: high level, I think they'll do pretty good in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That team has so much potential It's going to be
Speaker 2: interesting to see now that they're all playing together. Hopefully
Speaker 2: they all stay healthy. We'll see what happens. All right,
Speaker 2: We got to move on to our DraftKings segment. We're
Speaker 2: introducing something this week called I'll Take that Bet and
Speaker 2: this is presented by DraftKings and Jahn Morant is coming back, guys,
Speaker 2: So I thought this was the perfect opportunity to talk
Speaker 2: about this. He's twenty one games into his twenty five
Speaker 2: game suspension. The Grizzlies are hoping by next week could
Speaker 2: be back in the fold and they can start to
Speaker 2: put him on the court. They're six and fifteen on
Speaker 2: the year, thirteenth place in the conference. Do you think
Speaker 2: John Morant can turn this team back into a playoff contender?
Speaker 1: And here are the.
Speaker 2: Odds plus six hundred to make the playoffs, minus nine
Speaker 2: hundred to miss the playoffs. So Vegas views the Grizzlies
Speaker 2: as a long shot to make the playoffs. Boogie, would
Speaker 2: you take that bet? Put down one hundred bucks. If
Speaker 2: they make it, you get six hundred back. But Vegas
Speaker 2: doesn't think that they'll be having to pay you that money.
Speaker 6: I'll take that bet. Do I think there will be
Speaker 6: a playoff team. No, but I definitely think there'll be
Speaker 6: a team.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not taking the bat.
Speaker 3: I think they will be a team that can make
Speaker 3: the play in.
Speaker 2: And that friend, it's not top seven point guard's top
Speaker 2: five point guards.
Speaker 1: It's not make the play it it's making the playoffs.
Speaker 4: But if they make their playing they didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I mean, i mean, look, that's what he did. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but.
Speaker 2: Do you think when we're done with the player to
Speaker 2: get to eight versus one they will be there?
Speaker 6: No, they won't, But I do think this team will
Speaker 6: make the play in and whoever they facing the playing
Speaker 6: tournament is definitely going to be a threat for that
Speaker 6: defended team. So I wouldn't want to see this team
Speaker 6: with John Morant at any point in the year. So
Speaker 6: John Moran is that talented, regardless all the noise you
Speaker 6: know around his name and the mistakes and the childish
Speaker 6: behavior like that's that's that's whatever, speaking on his talent,
Speaker 6: he's that good.
Speaker 3: He and carry this team.
Speaker 6: He'll make the guys around him better and they'll definitely
Speaker 6: be a threat. Once they make the plan. I believe
Speaker 6: they'll be in the plane. So they'll become a threat
Speaker 6: in the playing tournament. Whoever's facing them definitely has problems
Speaker 6: on the hand.
Speaker 3: So no, I don't think there'll be a playoff team,
Speaker 3: so I don't take the bet.
Speaker 6: But yes, they'll be in the plan, and I bet
Speaker 6: my money from that point moving forward.
Speaker 5: What about you again, I'm gonna take the bet.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm taking the bet. I mean I liked you know,
Speaker 4: I think he's coming back with vengeance.
Speaker 5: I think he's has a lot to prove and I
Speaker 5: know he's working, so he got the bet down there,
Speaker 5: d Rose. That's you know, eager to have him back,
Speaker 5: I'm sure. And then, like I said, Marcus smartest, I
Speaker 5: didn't know, don't know, worry how he ended up at it,
Speaker 5: but he's I'm sure he's waiting for him to come
Speaker 5: saved day as well, So there's a lot of hope
Speaker 5: come back to these when Jah gets back, and I
Speaker 5: think he's going to turn it around, like they get
Speaker 5: the fan base behind him. I think they'd be extremely
Speaker 5: tough to beat at home from that point on. But
Speaker 5: I'm a better I'm again I'll take that bet.
Speaker 2: I think it's an attractive bet only in that there
Speaker 2: are only five games out of a playoff spot. It's
Speaker 2: only December that with the suspension being what it was,
Speaker 2: and now this is, you know, going back to last year,
Speaker 2: twenty five games is not that much of the season.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I get that it's a chunk and it gets you
Speaker 2: off to a bad start and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: But they have plenty of time to recover, so.
Speaker 2: I expect him to see a little bit to shake
Speaker 2: the rust off. I don't think it's going to happen,
Speaker 2: you know, overnight, but I'm I feel like, you know, Rajehan,
Speaker 2: you've got the smart money there.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. We'll see, we'll come back to
Speaker 1: it at the end of the year, see if that
Speaker 1: was a good bet to take. I don't know.
Speaker 2: All right, I got to get to set a reminder
Speaker 2: because we've got good games going on this weekend. All right,
Speaker 2: I'm going to read out some of the games. Y'all
Speaker 2: tell me what you think is the game you want
Speaker 2: to watch? What is your game of the week. So
Speaker 2: Tuesday we got Lakers at MAVs, Warriors at Suns, and
Speaker 2: that there's going to be Bradley Beale coming back on
Speaker 2: that game, Pacers at But on Wednesday. That is of
Speaker 2: course going to be a little rematch of what happened
Speaker 2: in the n season tournament. And the reason that one
Speaker 2: is exciting to me is because mister Haliburton, well the
Speaker 2: same time celebration, you know that Damian Lillard is going
Speaker 2: to have some attention on that in Wednesday's game.
Speaker 1: And you guys didn't put Dame in your top five
Speaker 1: point guards.
Speaker 2: But I you know, I know that he is still
Speaker 2: adjusting to being amos.
Speaker 3: I no, no, no, no, no, no, just to see.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. I know he's still adjusting.
Speaker 2: This is my sentence that I know he's still adjusting
Speaker 2: to be in Milwaukee. So I get why he didn't
Speaker 2: make your list yet, but I will say he is
Speaker 2: still as dangerous as motherfucker as ever, and that you know,
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what kind of revenge he has
Speaker 2: gone in this game or if the Pacers who showed
Speaker 2: out and they beat them can do it again. So
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be juicy. You've got the Wolves
Speaker 2: at the Mavericks again, more Luca time, and the Timberwolves
Speaker 2: have been on fire so far in this young season.
Speaker 2: Thunder at Kings, that's an attractive young player matchup, and
Speaker 2: on Friday, you've got the Magic at the Celtics. Orlando
Speaker 2: has won its last four against Boston and in general
Speaker 2: is tearing it up.
Speaker 1: So far in this young season. So a lot of
Speaker 1: good games going on.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, which one is the one that
Speaker 2: fascinates me the most because I like the drama. Y'all
Speaker 2: know I like the drama, and we got drama potentially
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. But what do you guys think, what's your
Speaker 2: favorite one book of this week?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the thunder Kings game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know, we were talking about the top five pgs
Speaker 6: in the league right now, and that's two of them
Speaker 6: right there, and Shay and Darren Fox. So I'm excited
Speaker 6: for that matchup, two young teams, you know, figuring it out,
Speaker 6: both top well potentially top of the West teams, and
Speaker 6: you know, I think that'll be a great matchup for
Speaker 6: the fans.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited for that out.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for all of them. I think I played
Speaker 4: for them. All the team is on the list here.
Speaker 5: But like you're said, Rachel with yeah, the Dame Time bang,
Speaker 5: that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4: I want to see how the Wolf's play.
Speaker 5: I've been I've been watching young Anthony Edwards a lot
Speaker 5: this year, the way he's able to leave that team,
Speaker 5: and you know, like I said, buying into everyone's role.
Speaker 5: Mike Conley running the show, so it's it'll be interesting.
Speaker 5: And obviously I'm always watching the Lakers and Celtics, so
Speaker 5: I'm busy all week watching here.
Speaker 1: Mat and classes of Kentucky.
Speaker 5: We're you know, I got I got finals Tuesday on
Speaker 5: them out, so I got a month break watch basketball.
Speaker 1: Right there we go, all right, doom scroll.
Speaker 2: So this is where we kind of look at some
Speaker 2: of the social media hits of the week, see what's
Speaker 2: popping and what's going on. I've been getting a ton
Speaker 2: of attention this week. Is our own teammates here on
Speaker 2: show basketball, Uh, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, you know them.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: They did a live string live stream during the n
Speaker 2: season tournament final and one topic was if Lebron is
Speaker 2: currently a top five player in the league this season.
Speaker 1: So this goes into back to our point.
Speaker 2: Our discussion is he's obviously top five of all time.
Speaker 2: That's not the conversation right now this season. Is he
Speaker 2: a top five player in the league at age nearly
Speaker 2: thirty nine.
Speaker 1: I think his birthday is two weeks from now. I
Speaker 1: got very heated between Kevin and the truth.
Speaker 2: I want you guys to take a listen to what
Speaker 2: your former teammates though, I had to say.
Speaker 9: Is he talk five in the league?
Speaker 4: Still Lebron?
Speaker 7: Hell?
Speaker 8: This was Megan?
Speaker 10: What Brownnie? Top five in the league? Name father players,
Speaker 10: Bett and Brown? Right now that you're picking Luca dockets
Speaker 10: the joker, m b oh, I'm not picking none of
Speaker 10: these niggas, and shut up. I love that I saw motherfuckers.
Speaker 10: Please start with this non that was impressive. Saw joege
Speaker 10: have fifteen points in the final.
Speaker 9: Game out here, bro right out that you're talking about
Speaker 9: nigga like you don't need no basketball, right Nigga, Lucas
Speaker 9: you got a bitch, no motherfucker final?
Speaker 10: Okay, Doc talking hard on Luca. Bro, Come Kate, you
Speaker 10: talk in that goofy ship. You're talking to Bron Nigga
Speaker 10: sixty to sixty sixty six thousand minutes, nigga, respect lord
Speaker 10: Nigga thirty eight doing it. Fuck as you talking to
Speaker 10: those guys are greater than biggas cupcakes when they come
Speaker 10: to Bron, I'm talking about cups saying top by today, Nigga,
Speaker 10: I'm talking about today. We're not talking about body of
Speaker 10: work as you're talking.
Speaker 8: About then cupcake. Fuck, you're talking about motherfucking.
Speaker 10: B had fifteen points in the in the in the
Speaker 10: game seven.
Speaker 8: Ship big the fuck out here, Bron.
Speaker 10: Nigga are putting none of the niggas in front of
Speaker 10: Bron Jordan.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I.
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: Ain't no bro fan nigga.
Speaker 10: Secondly, no, I'm calling it a spade a spade. This
Speaker 10: is straight space ah spade fucking you're talking about. He's
Speaker 10: a spade. We ain't never seen no nigga have thirty nine.
Speaker 10: Get this man on Lebron.
Speaker 2: Jersey you can put Remember when you asked if we
Speaker 2: could curse on this show?
Speaker 1: I think you got your answer all right.
Speaker 2: So as you said, this is every day between the
Speaker 2: two of them. But now that you've gotten to see
Speaker 2: what their argument was, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Though? Where are you on this? Which which of your
Speaker 1: former teammates are you sided with?
Speaker 5: He just proved it. He's tough five. He just put
Speaker 5: his mind on something. Who's the first, Who's the first champion?
Speaker 5: The end season tournament. Brian, it's short, tip five.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 4: I think Pete just wanted to argue the like they
Speaker 4: love to argue with each other.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know that.
Speaker 6: You know I'm another guy that likes to argue. But
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Paul on this.
Speaker 4: You sipping to man, it's early out there. How you
Speaker 4: how you look like that already?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm ask sure or not. As soon as we
Speaker 3: get done with this, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 4: But he just woned. He was one of season tournament.
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 6: I'm not taking away from any legend that this guy
Speaker 6: has done throughout his career.
Speaker 3: I'm not. He's legendary.
Speaker 4: They win seven and they went seven and old. When
Speaker 4: it was time to win, he hit the button and
Speaker 4: they won. What are we talking about?
Speaker 3: Where are they right now to the west? Where are
Speaker 3: they right now in the West? I don't know.
Speaker 5: Like I said, listen, I played on veteran teams like
Speaker 5: it ain't you know? When we hit the button, we
Speaker 5: hit the button. So we're trying to get.
Speaker 3: On the team. It's two veterans.
Speaker 4: What's that mean? What you're saying?
Speaker 3: This isn't a veteran team, it's two Vets.
Speaker 6: Everybody else's babies, it's it's two.
Speaker 1: Nicole. Is in your top five right now?
Speaker 6: Yes, Janna, Yes, Jannis Luca Nicola uh MB has to
Speaker 6: be in there. He just had fifty to other And
Speaker 6: I know we're talking about, you know what he did
Speaker 6: last year. We're talking about right now, top five right now,
Speaker 6: we're not talking about the previously. Yeah, all those things
Speaker 6: can be brought up when it talks when we start
Speaker 6: talking about, you know, an overall career, all those things
Speaker 6: can be brought up. But when it comes to top
Speaker 6: five right now in the NBA, Lebron isn't And that's okay.
Speaker 6: He's thirty eight, thirty nine years old. He isn't supposed
Speaker 6: to be the fact that he's still even flirting in
Speaker 6: the conversation more credit to Lebron. But as of right now,
Speaker 6: he's just not top five, And that's okay. It's not
Speaker 6: a nott to him, it's just not.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's closer to top five now than
Speaker 1: he was last season. Like that's what'sing to me.
Speaker 5: If it was one game, who had to win the game,
Speaker 5: who going win the game? Anybody in the league.
Speaker 6: I'm going with Lebron, but that's not what this conversation is.
Speaker 6: We're talking about top five in the league, So I'm
Speaker 6: talking about, like, well, what else, what else determined league's
Speaker 6: top five?
Speaker 3: What else determines staff and right now?
Speaker 6: Statistically, team wise or individual wise, Lebron.
Speaker 3: They just want a team.
Speaker 4: They just want a team. Congratulations, he was trying to
Speaker 4: win the tournament.
Speaker 3: Congratulations.
Speaker 6: I'm not taking out away from him that that that alone. Well,
Speaker 6: if that's the case, eight, he's top five.
Speaker 3: Right now too, then right, no, he ain't top five
Speaker 3: right now? Wow, he had forty and twenty. He just
Speaker 3: wanted to see the tournament. That's the point I'm making.
Speaker 5: That doesn't matter the seven games, seven and zero. Lebron
Speaker 5: is the court. It's the reason why they want seven
Speaker 5: win when it had to win to count.
Speaker 4: I'm not just when things matter, he hit the button.
Speaker 3: And that's a different conversation when it started.
Speaker 6: When we start talking about when things matter, Lebron's going
Speaker 6: to be the first guy bring up as of right
Speaker 6: this season though this season, see, I think.
Speaker 2: What he's done this season, as I said, like last season,
Speaker 2: I don't think he quite had what he has this season.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy, by the way, about someone who's this age,
Speaker 2: but he's gotten them, you know, out of games that
Speaker 2: they had no business sort of struggling in. He's the
Speaker 2: one who's putting in forty minutes, right, all this stuff,
Speaker 2: He's put in all these points. He's the one who's
Speaker 2: been the backbone of the team. Ad has had a
Speaker 2: very up and down season already and Lebron has been
Speaker 2: consistent and been there and then Yeah, I think this
Speaker 2: tournament was a great showcase for him because it showed
Speaker 2: what those saying is that when he wants to do something,
Speaker 2: he can still.
Speaker 1: Go out and do it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I would put him in that category this season,
Speaker 2: which is funny because I wouldn't have said he's been
Speaker 2: there the whole way through the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: but this season he showed out so far.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but it's it's you gotta what
Speaker 1: you you only five, there's only five slots. It does
Speaker 1: get tough there because there's other guys.
Speaker 11: I'm putting Lebron at six, So you said, Luca and be.
Speaker 1: What do you guys put.
Speaker 3: Mb Yannis and shame you still got to bring in
Speaker 3: Dean Fox.
Speaker 1: Fox over Lebron this season. I think Darren's been great,
Speaker 1: but come on, I mean.
Speaker 6: Guys averaging thirty and six, we just can't overlook them.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 4: I mean again, these numbers, the numbers are continue to inflict.
Speaker 4: Though It's not like.
Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing the numbers in the league.
Speaker 4: Teams are averaging one hundred and fifty points.
Speaker 6: I mean, you still get numbers like humans line numbers don't.
Speaker 5: I get it, but the game and the game has
Speaker 5: changed for that.
Speaker 6: But right now, in the current state that we're in,
Speaker 6: we have to get those guys their credit.
Speaker 1: Like everyone's numbers are inflated.
Speaker 2: Like I think part of it, when you say, what
Speaker 2: is it beyond the number is part of its heart, right,
Speaker 2: Like part of it is are you the heart of.
Speaker 1: Your team that is making that team go?
Speaker 2: And that's what part of makes you valuable, And it's
Speaker 2: part of this conversation of who's the top guys in
Speaker 2: the league this season? It is beyond numbers for me,
Speaker 2: But I do think it's heavy. He's right there as heavy.
Speaker 2: It's a very debatable point because you do.
Speaker 6: Everybody we've named in the top fives, everybody we've named
Speaker 6: in the top five is winning games. So I just
Speaker 6: don't see how we can overlook that either. Yeah, Lebron
Speaker 6: won that, but if it's about him winning the D
Speaker 6: season tournament, then eighty has to be in the top
Speaker 6: five as well because he went seven and one or
Speaker 6: seven and though just like Lebron did, that's all I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 6: if it's based off just the end season, then yeah,
Speaker 6: Lebron's top five number one, and then ad is number two.
Speaker 3: But that's not the case. That's not the case. That's
Speaker 3: not the case. Brothers. I just I can't go with that.
Speaker 3: That's that's not a good enough wreath.
Speaker 6: Where are the Lakers right now in the West Western stands?
Speaker 3: And that has to mean something.
Speaker 1: I got to give an update. This story is crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you've heard this story, but
Speaker 2: the nuts boy and I were talking about this a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. So, speaking of Shay Sga bought
Speaker 2: a house, his dream house outside of Toronto, and he
Speaker 2: ended up having to sue the people who sold it
Speaker 2: to him because he did not know that prior to
Speaker 2: him living in the house, a guy who had dubbed
Speaker 2: himself the Crypto King had lived in that house.
Speaker 1: And some bad things happen. So here's the story.
Speaker 2: In May, he buys his dream house for six million dollars.
Speaker 2: Two days after he buys the house, moves in. Menacing
Speaker 2: visitors start showing up at the house looking for the
Speaker 2: previous tenant. This guy owed more than twenty five million
Speaker 2: dollars to one hundred and fifty different people, and apparently
Speaker 2: these people who were coming to the house looking for
Speaker 2: this guy were not playing around. Earlier in the year,
Speaker 2: another group of people came to the house look for
Speaker 2: the guy, found him there, kidnapped him, beat the shit
Speaker 2: out of him completely, like rearranged his face, finally released him,
Speaker 2: and now they were coming back.
Speaker 1: And instead of this guy.
Speaker 2: Being at the door, Shay and his you know, people
Speaker 2: in his family are at the door. And they basically
Speaker 2: were just like, yeah, we got to get out of here.
Speaker 2: So like within two days they abandoned the dream house
Speaker 2: that they were going to live the rest of their
Speaker 2: lives in. They tried to reverse the sale. They had
Speaker 2: to take these guys to court, and I'm here to
Speaker 2: give you the update that they won the lawsuit. So Boog,
Speaker 2: you can rest assured Shae does not have to live
Speaker 2: in the house with the guys looking for him.
Speaker 1: Rearranged the fit. But can you imagine dealing with all that.
Speaker 4: That's a wild story. I'm fortunate.
Speaker 5: I'm glad he got his money back. He won't assu
Speaker 5: so he's out of it. Has an effect on the season, be.
Speaker 4: Playing some me.
Speaker 1: So you're in a new house, no menacing visitors coming
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 4: No, not right now. I'm trying to say, ilf degree here.
Speaker 1: That's good. He's like, don't blow up by spot Rachel.
Speaker 4: No previous owners here, no previous owners.
Speaker 1: No previous owners. There you go.
Speaker 2: That's how you know your fancy when you build from scratch.
Speaker 2: So we'll just leave that there. Hey y'all, Rajeon, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us. I love it when
Speaker 2: the two of you get together, makes my whole day
Speaker 2: always great to hear. Your insight on the game is
Speaker 2: unparalleled as always. Good luck on those finals. And I
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