WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 12/21: Breaking Down Issues With Mac Jones / Offense, Bright Spots, Bengals Preview 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:06.680 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two Podcasts with Evan 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.720 Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm in Lazar, Lazar, Lazar. Well, 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:15.000 everybody nailed it, joined us always buying our Barak David 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:19.720 match no rescheduled. Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Barr. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:21.760 Don't worry. Evan will be back in the host chair 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.720 next week and he'll run this thing much more efficiently 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.440 than I just did. Apparently. Hello, everybody, welcome into a 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.480 new addition to the Patriots Catch twenty two podcast. Evan 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.280 Lazar with me as always, Alex Barth back in the studio. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.640 Not to see you, buddy, Good to see you as well. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.440 Not in Arizona. Good to be seen. It was a 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.080 long week in the desert. It wasn't as warm as 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.600 I was hoping it was gonna be with like this 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.640 old right, it's like in the fifties, so not cold. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.599 It was definitely better than it was here. But I 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.280 did want to talk about that a little bit because 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:59.000 I think unfortunately what happened on Sunday got in the 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.160 way of any conversations of what happened out in Arizona 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.080 and things like that. So we'll try to touch on 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.640 some of that. But at the top of the show, 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.240 I'm gonna let you decide because I'm on the fence 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:14.840 about this a little bit because we've talked about it 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.640 at nauseum over the last two days on Unfiltered, well 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.120 obviously all wrote about it the last play of the game. Like, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.760 we can talk about it, we can dissect it, we 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.679 can talk about what we think it means and all 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.160 that kind of stuff, but I don't want it to 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:29.760 be the crux of the show, right, Like I don't 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.480 want it to be the majority of that. You're talking 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.920 about the play, not the game itself, correct, right, the 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.840 last play of the game on Sunday. All right, let 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.280 you know what, let's just do that. You want to 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.400 start on a really light, stupid note, just because I 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.720 think we all need that. Sure, what do we call 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.520 on those things? Right? There's the miracle in Miami had 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.800 a decent one. First of all, we're not supposed to 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:55.200 name it, Okay, like we're we're supposed to name it. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.880 What is your pitch? I'm gonna steal deuces, which is 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:02.240 collateral damage, which isn't bad, you know, because collateral Right, 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.680 So now we're talking about it, So let's just let's 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.280 just get this out. So the biggest thing that I 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.880 I don't get to give mine. Oh yeah, sorry, go ahead. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.440 So I think disaster in the desert. But the best 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:21.600 one I've heard is what happens in Vegas. Well, this one, 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.200 I don't know if it's if it's going to stay 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:30.000 in Vegas. That's that's why it's interesting. So my I 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.480 have two takes, and I'll give them again for people 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.639 that just listen to our show because it's the best one, right, 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:39.440 I mean, of course, right. So the first one is 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:45.760 that I wish I could sit here and say that 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:50.800 that was a one off thing, like the Miami Miracle. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.080 To me was a one off, right, like that they 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.240 won the Super Bowl that never happened. I was never 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.160 worried about the psyche of that team shattering. I was 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.400 maybe worried about the ceiling of that team, right, because 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.320 we did start to see in twenty eighteen. We had 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.359 already started to see some of the decay right of 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:13.480 the roster at that point. But I wasn't worried about 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.600 the psyche of the team because they had Brady, they 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.200 had Gronk, they had Edelman, they had all these veteran players, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.960 you know, Devin mccordy five years younger at that point 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:25.760 in time. So I wasn't totally worried about the psyche 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.760 of the team with that one. I wish I could 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.799 say that this was a one off for this team. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.360 But to me, and we're going to get to all 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.240 the other issues that they had in this game on 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:41.720 Sunday too, litany of issues. To me, this is indicative 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:47.000 of this is maybe not maybe this is the most 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:51.520 exaggerated or the like the biggest thing, but this team 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.560 has not been a smart football team all year long, right, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:59.279 Like they've been a sloppy, undisciplined, especially on offense operation 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.280 all year long, pre snap penalties, not lining up correctly 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.960 and not running the right plays, having issues getting plays 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.160 in off the sideline into the like this is all 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.520 year long. Now, this is it on steroids, right, This 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.680 is like it to the tenth degree, right. But I 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:21.559 still feel like this was they had, this was coming, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.080 like they had something like this coming that they were 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.680 going because they were not buttoned up that they were 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.200 going to have a moment like this in this season. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.880 I didn't could never have imagined it would have been that, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.039 but it felt like this was coming in some sort 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:40.440 of way. Well, what in what sucks is the two 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.680 guys on offense who have consistently been above it, right. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.440 And there's been guys that have had nice stretches here 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.520 and there, But the two guys who have made it 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:53.359 work consistently throughout the roller coaster of this season have 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.400 been Ramond Ray Stevenson and Jacobe Myers. They've shown up, 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.279 They've done their part. They're really the two guys that 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.520 have been above I don't want to say above criticism, 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.400 but they've been, for lack of better term, they've done 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.040 their jobs. And for those two guys to be involved 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:13.240 here is just so striking right because Jacoby Myers is 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.120 such a smart football player and that was such a 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.000 bad decision that he made. Now, I will say, to 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.479 your overall point, I think you hit it on the head. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.880 I was on Patriots post game after the game on 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.960 ninety eight five Sports ub and yeah, my first thought, 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.000 and I found myself yelling at times throughout the game 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.840 this is stuff that all right, when we go out 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.440 there for training camp, right, or when we're out there 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.159 in the spring, right, we hear Belichick use the phrase, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.359 and we'll use the phrase a lot install period in 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.039 teaching period, right, you know that it's like the third 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:50.840 day of camp and we're asking Bill about, well, what 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.599 do you see from this player? And every year we 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.560 have this conversation, he says, well, it's still the teaching period. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.040 We're not in the evaluation period yet of camp. This 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.080 is the stuff they're teaching. This is the stuff they're installing, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:09.400 the plays themselves, how they're called, where everybody should line up, substitutions, 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.520 like a lot of that procedural stuff. Yeah, that's what 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.240 they go over in the spring in the first couple 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:18.120 of days of camp. So nobody's gonna be You're gonna 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.679 have mistakes in it over the course of the season, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.320 like you're not gonna be perfect all season, but for 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.040 it to show up as regularly as it does on 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.200 a week to week basis and as often as it 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:31.000 does within the games, it is striking to see because again, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.360 this is stuff that you kind of work on in 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:35.960 the spring, like going back to the spring, some of 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.360 the first stuff you work on. Yeah, And the other 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.520 thing that bugs me about this play and just in 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.719 general that I've talked about a little bit as well, 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:45.880 So I realized I sound like a broken record to 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.200 some people that listen across all across the board here. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:54.560 But I'm still really bothered by the way that the 0:06:54.600 --> 0:07:00.880 coaching staff has handled this whole thing. And it started 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:05.159 with that postgame press conference from Belichick saying mistakes were 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.800 made on the play and then saying that Mac Jones 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.120 couldn't reach the end zone. Okay, may hang on. Can 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.520 I as like the chief Mac defender address that. No, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.680 if you're gonna say it's because they don't have the 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.800 protection and like all that, No, that's not what I'm 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.680 gonna say. Like maybe he meant that, And initially I 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.120 want to give him the benefit of the doubt on that, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.280 I don't anymore. Yeah, we have seen Mac throw the 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.520 ball that far. Oh yeah, So unless there's some injury 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.920 we don't know about, that's just not true. It's just 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:35.240 a it's a lie, and it's a lie in the 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.360 sense that in my opinion, and this is and look, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.280 I hate doing this kind of stuff, but I actually 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.480 agree with your counterparts on ninety eight five and some 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.120 of the rate Talk radio points here with this is that, 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.920 in my opinion, it's covering up for Patricia and him, right, say, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.840 oh well, Oh yeah, we we we called a job 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.840 because we felt like the players couldn't execute a hill 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.400 Mary right like that. That That's what I'm hearing. And 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.960 the other thing that has bugged me was that yesterday 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.920 and Marine Matt's now heard this take like three times. 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:12.800 Yesterday we talked to assistant coaches. Now, I will say this, 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.720 They've had a rotation for who we get to talk 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.720 to been alphabetically, I think, right, all season long. So 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.520 I get that this is already a formulaic thing that 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.160 was decided when the season started of how they were 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.680 going to rotate because by league rules, once a week 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.960 the Patriots have to make coordinators available. Now they don't 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.840 have an offensive and defensive coordinator by name or by title, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.760 I should say, they don't have one. So that is 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:44.040 a loophole that they've been able to rotate the coaches 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:50.080 in and out one at a time and basically limit 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.199 the amount of exposure to the media that Matt Patricia gets. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:58.000 I think he's taught, he's spoken, and they rotate the 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.120 offensive coach. So there's two, right, there's the offensive coaches, 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.839 we get one a week in the defensive coaches by 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:08.120 the week. So doing the math in my head one, two, three, four, five, 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.160 there's five guys, six guys who speak. I think Ross 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.800 Douglas has spoken, right, yes, Billy Yates doesn't doesn't so 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.440 he's not so six six times around in fifteen weeks. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.280 And I remember them saying at the beginning of the year, 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.800 it's alphabeticalue I don't I might be making that up, 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.760 but it feels Patricia would be at the end of that. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.599 And he spoke last week between the Cardinals game and 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.360 the Radios game, so I think that means he's spoken twice, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.920 maybe three times. And there's been a handful of times 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.480 all the coaches have spoken, but it hasn't been much. Right. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.040 So last year, for example, just to make sure everybody 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.319 understands what we're saying, Josh McDaniels would speak every Tuesday, right, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.640 cam Accord speaks every Tuesday because they're coordinating. And then 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.280 speaking of last year, it would be we'd get Steve 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.840 Belichick one week, we get Geradmeyo another week, we get 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.520 Mike Pellegrino another week, and DeMarcus DeMarcus Covington right, And 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.480 I couldn't remember if he spoke last year. On they rotate, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.920 they rotated through that right, because there was no by 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.880 title defensive coordinator. So I get that. It's a formula. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.720 It's a formula, right, it's a it's a system that 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.920 they have in place here. With that being said, when 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:18.320 you lose a game like that, when you lose a 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.120 game like the way that they lost it, and I 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.280 and we're gonna get to the defense the way right, 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.839 the way doesn't just mean that play. It means the 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.120 totality of the You have a seven point lely with 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.439 three minutes to go, and you find, through a comedy 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.280 of errors, you blow. I wouldn't even go back before that. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.640 I had questions for Patricia about things that happened before that. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:42.520 Well whole line seen. Yeah. My point being is when 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.520 you when a game goes that way offensively, and you 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.920 lose a game like that at the end, and then 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:55.920 you don't have the play callers available on both sides 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.760 of the football, right, you don't make those guys available 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:04.199 for us to be able to ask them that. Quite frankly, 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:08.559 the tougher questions, Dad, I don't think I think that's unfair, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.640 and I'm not talking about to me. I think that 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.520 that's unfair to the fans, right, it's also unfair to 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.760 the players because we're and most importantly to play. Let's 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.520 start there. I mean, what, right, here's the thing. I've 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:26.880 always defended Bill Belichick, and this I've probably haven't getting 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.760 given this take as much openly since I started covering 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.560 the Patriots professionally, but going back to when I as 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.280 a kid, Right, I've always kind of thought Bill Belichick's 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.360 deferral to the media was and granted this is when 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.400 they were winning regularly. Well, you don't want to put 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.400 anything out there by accident that's either going to tip 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.080 the opponent off or cause issues within your own room 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.400 or whatever. Right, at the end of the day, what 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.200 the fans want to see is wins. If being short 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.400 spoken in public means you win more games, it's a 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.920 trade off to fan should be happy with, yes, So 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.200 I don't look at it that way. Now my issue 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:09.480 would be in line with your take. What what do 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:10.680 you think the scene's going to be to talk to 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.480 Jacobe Myers today in the locker room, to talk to 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.600 him monder Stevens in the locker room questions that maybe 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.760 Matt Patricia could have answered yesterday and taken some of 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.520 the heat off that, right, you know, he wasn't. And 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.760 I think Nick Kayley was asked one or two questions 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.560 about it, but not a ton because it's just that's 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.160 that's not his role, right, right, So to Matt Patricia, Right, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.000 if we get to talk to him yesterday, Nick Kayley 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.560 was asked because he was the one who spoke yes right, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.360 he was the If we got to talk to him yesterday, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.800 we could ask him, Hey, what did you radio in? Right? Like? 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:43.040 What was said in the huddle? Like, was it said, 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.960 we're gonna run a draw and if nothing is there, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.920 you immediately go down and we go into over. The 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.480 score is tied. The score is tied. The score is tied, right, Like, 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.720 that's what you should be saying, right, is continuously in 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.959 saying to Mac, Mac, make sure that all eleven guys 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.600 on the field understand that the last thing that you 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.920 can do is be careless with the football, right Like, 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:11.000 that's the last like we are playing for overtime? Was 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:12.839 that said? And I don't know if we would get 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.760 a straight answer, but I would also look at Steve, 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.559 and this is kind of segueing into what I really 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.760 want to talk about today, which is breaking this all down. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.440 I would also ask Steve Belichick, who's every time that 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.079 the Patriots have a good defensive game plan and they 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.800 call a good defensive game, and they have and they 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.559 win the game on Steve called a great game, right, 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.040 So Steve's the play caller on the defensive side of football. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.240 What I posted on Twitter last night the play calls 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.480 on the completions on the final drive for the Raiders, right, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.280 the touchdown drive for the Raiders. And they went on 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.600 the three big completions in the game or in that drive, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.040 the twenty yard or up the seam and the touchdown. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:59.920 It's standard zone, standard four man rush, no blitz, no 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:05.559 simulated pressure, nothing right, just four man right rush. So 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.320 you went vanilla in the in the biggest moment of 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.199 the game, you went vanilla, Like that's what you did. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.800 Like all game long. You got Judean dropping j drop 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:18.480 into Vye, dropping Bentley, blitzing McMillan, like you're doing all 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.600 this stuff. They ran fire zones with the slot, blitzing 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.200 Miles Bryant off the edge, right like they're doing all 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.280 these different exotic stuff all game long. And then on 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.320 the final drive of the game when you need to 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:34.480 protect the end zone, they just rushed four guys, And 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.040 it wasn't like they just lined up four guys on 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.480 the line of scrimmage and those four guys rushed the 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.440 quarterback right like that was. It wasn't anything fancy at all. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.120 So without being able to know the answer those questions, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.320 and you can call in and ask us questions at 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.920 eight five five Pats five hundred, or you can email 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.520 in at web radio at Patriots apologize for not getting 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.600 people's calls last week. Yeah, I got a little caught 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.240 up with the draft. I we're gonna get draft questions today, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.040 by the way. You know that. I want to start 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.040 on the offensive side of the football, and I want 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.320 to go down the list of what I look. No, wait, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.440 I want you to finish what you were saying, because 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.000 I cut you off, You cut yourself off, and then 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.160 I cut you off without getting the answer to those 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:18.600 questions from the coaches. What happens, we don't know. But 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.480 what are we doing. We don't know. We speculate, and 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.000 that's not good for anybody. We speculate, and that's because 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.520 I want you to finish that point, because it's an 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.080 important point. We speculate and then guys get thrown under 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.680 the bus that maybe he shouldn't get thrown under the 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.720 bus and it creates a bad environment. Yeah, and that's 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.600 the crux if you're like, I want to make sure 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.480 we don't leave that part un said, because that's the 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.280 crux of your whole argument here. That's accountability the right 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.560 and the biggest thing is is it's accountability to the players. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.960 Because I was in the scrum with Jacobe Myers. I 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.040 was in the podium room when Max spoke and Ramandre 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.240 spoke and Jacobe Myers and look, I'm not trying to, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.440 I'm not trying to. The play was dumb. It was dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:06.960 But Jakobe Myers stood there with what we thought were 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.640 tears in his eye. It looked like that, and eyes 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.520 were very red like he looked like he've been crying. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.960 And he owned it. He wouldn't let us deflect blame. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.080 He wouldn't let us point fingers at anybody else. He 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.680 looked me in the eye and said, I promise you 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.560 this was my fault. It wasn't. They didn't call for lateral. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.680 Patricia didn't throw me off, Mac didn't throw me off 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.720 from this was me, Like, do not put it. Basically, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.280 he was saying to us, do not put this on 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:40.520 anybody else. Do not make this about everybody else. I 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.920 made a dumb play, so he took total ownership of it. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.280 Ramandre then went to the podium and said, I'm the 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.600 one that started the whole chain of events, so it's 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.920 my fault too. I should have just gone down. And 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.200 then Mac gets to the podium and says he should 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.120 have tackled Chandler Jones, which, okay, hang on, hang on, 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.920 passed the quarterback. I have seen so many people say, well, 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.400 if only Matt could tackle better. First of all, if 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.760 Mac's biggest issue was his tackling ability, the Patriots would 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.879 be great Patriots. If your quarterbacks biggest problem is he 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.160 can't tackle, you're in a fantastic spot quarterback wise. There's 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.280 plenty to knock back four quarterback right related in that game. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:21.000 Second of all, if your game plan, if your game 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.280 comes down to your six foot three, two hundred and 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.440 seventeen pound quarterbacks has to tackle, I'm going by wikipedia, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.520 six three has to tackle a six foot six whatever 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.760 it is, has to tackle a six foot six, two 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.399 hundred and sixty pound defensive lineman who also happens to 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.160 be one of the best pure athletes in the league. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.320 If that's what your game comes down to, it's you've 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.560 already lost. You've lost for putting yourself in that situation. 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.160 Not three, We'll call it two A. How many quarterbacks 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.720 in the league realistically can make that tackle? Like three 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.480 or four? Maybe like Josh Allen probably could. The name 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.520 I saw somebody bring up his big bend back in 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.399 the day. Yeah, he's probably gonna put up their wattle 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.359 over there. Well like Prime Ben. Yeah, you know who 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.360 are the other like just big lurking. Aren't that many 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.040 of those guys anymore? Right? So Kobe, maybe all the 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.760 other players took accountability for it to the point that 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.200 Mack is saying that he should have tackled Chandler Jones, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:22.720 and yet we hear nothing from the coaches and why 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.480 why that's important? And we're probably delving into some psychology 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.879 stuff here is when you see you guys say that 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.320 you know and you're and look, we work together, right, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.560 And I'm using a smaller scale example here, but we 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.800 work together and one of us would make a mistake usually, mate, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.359 and I don't it. And if I was just sitting 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.399 there not talking about it. You probably would have been like, 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.680 let's kid, just keep screwing up. He's not saying anything 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.360 about if you own it. It's you're you're showing those 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.359 around you, those you work with. Hey, I know I 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.760 messed up. I want to get better. This is on me, Like, 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.280 let's move. That's the kind of guy you can get behind. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:58.800 That's the kind of guy you keep working you want 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.640 to keep working with, versus a guy who I mean, 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.919 nobody's pointing fingers that anybody else, which is good, but 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.800 not saying anything isn't great either. I think the coach 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.840 pointed fingers, did everybody else? Bill actually did it a 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.080 little bit. You're right, I don't think players are players 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.680 are not. No, they're definitely no. The player again, it's 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.679 a stupid play. Not to defend the play. It's a 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.399 really bad play. It's going to go down as one 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.040 of the dumbest players in NFL history. Yeah, but in 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.600 terms of how you respond to something like that, a 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.920 plus from the players. Okay, So I want to talk 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:32.960 about the actual access and knows and get into this 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.800 a little bit now that we had our moments to 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:40.160 rant a little bit about this situation. Twenty three minute moment. Typical, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.720 very typical of us. We might not have started to 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.160 write it too, but about that very typical. Uh, let's 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.560 start with Mac. And I wanted to tell people beforehand 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.760 that I I've I've separated the offensive issues here into buckets, 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:55.800 so it's not I'm not just gonna point to Mac 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.000 as an issue. Mac. I have a receiver issues and 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.520 I have play calling issues, right because I actually thought 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:07.159 the one thing that kind of escaped my flamethrower this 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.840 week was the offensive line. They were fine, they were fine. Okay, Yeah, 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:12.960 you go up against a really good edge rusher Duo 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.760 Crosby and Chandler Jones had their moments, they made their 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.320 impactful plays, but they didn't take over the game and 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.399 you rush for two hundred yards like you were fine 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.639 up front? Okay, But I want to start with Mac, 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:27.840 and I think that there's some more psychology stuff that 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.000 we will probably get into, but I want to start 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.000 with mechanical issues that I'm seeing with Mac Jones, because 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.760 I think that this is from an execution and why 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.240 all the throws were getting sprayed all over the place, 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.800 especially in the first half, Like why that was happening. 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:43.720 A lot of it to me by watching it back 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.720 is mechanical, and I think the biggest thing that you 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:52.159 see with him is so there's like four points of 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:55.399 mechanics with the quarterback. Right, there's defeat, there's his hips, 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.680 there's his shoulders, and his eyes right like eyes obviously 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.280 is a little bit more about mental than physical, but 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.560 all four of those things need to be in sync 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:11.639 to execute a perfect pass. And the biggest thing that 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.600 you want to see is that kinetic energy right from 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:19.359 the ground up, Like everything should start from your feet 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.760 and like you should see the energy flow up the 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:25.240 body and see it all uncoil at the same time. 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.320 And a lot of what I'm seeing with Mac and 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.520 I think a lot of this stems from how he 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:35.720 handles pressure as well, is that he does not throw 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:42.280