1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two Podcasts with Evan 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm in Lazar, Lazar, Lazar. Well, 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: everybody nailed it, joined us always buying our Barak David 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: match no rescheduled. Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Barr. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: Don't worry. Evan will be back in the host chair 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: next week and he'll run this thing much more efficiently 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: than I just did. Apparently. Hello, everybody, welcome into a 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: new addition to the Patriots Catch twenty two podcast. Evan 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Lazar with me as always, Alex Barth back in the studio. 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: Not to see you, buddy, Good to see you as well. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Not in Arizona. Good to be seen. It was a 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: long week in the desert. It wasn't as warm as 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: I was hoping it was gonna be with like this 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: old right, it's like in the fifties, so not cold. 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: It was definitely better than it was here. But I 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: did want to talk about that a little bit because 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: I think unfortunately what happened on Sunday got in the 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: way of any conversations of what happened out in Arizona 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: and things like that. So we'll try to touch on 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: some of that. But at the top of the show, 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you decide because I'm on the fence 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: about this a little bit because we've talked about it 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: at nauseum over the last two days on Unfiltered, well 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: obviously all wrote about it the last play of the game. Like, 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: we can talk about it, we can dissect it, we 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: can talk about what we think it means and all 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, but I don't want it to 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: be the crux of the show, right, Like I don't 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: want it to be the majority of that. You're talking 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: about the play, not the game itself, correct, right, the 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: last play of the game on Sunday. All right, let 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: you know what, let's just do that. You want to 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: start on a really light, stupid note, just because I 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: think we all need that. Sure, what do we call 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: on those things? Right? There's the miracle in Miami had 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: a decent one. First of all, we're not supposed to 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: name it, Okay, like we're we're supposed to name it. 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: What is your pitch? I'm gonna steal deuces, which is 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: collateral damage, which isn't bad, you know, because collateral Right, 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: So now we're talking about it, So let's just let's 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: just get this out. So the biggest thing that I 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: I don't get to give mine. Oh yeah, sorry, go ahead. 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: So I think disaster in the desert. But the best 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: one I've heard is what happens in Vegas. Well, this one, 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's if it's going to stay 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: in Vegas. That's that's why it's interesting. So my I 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: have two takes, and I'll give them again for people 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: that just listen to our show because it's the best one, right, 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, right. So the first one is 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: that I wish I could sit here and say that 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: that was a one off thing, like the Miami Miracle. 52 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: To me was a one off, right, like that they 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl that never happened. I was never 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: worried about the psyche of that team shattering. I was 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: maybe worried about the ceiling of that team, right, because 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: we did start to see in twenty eighteen. We had 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: already started to see some of the decay right of 58 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the roster at that point. But I wasn't worried about 59 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: the psyche of the team because they had Brady, they 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: had Gronk, they had Edelman, they had all these veteran players, 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, Devin mccordy five years younger at that point 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: in time. So I wasn't totally worried about the psyche 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: of the team with that one. I wish I could 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: say that this was a one off for this team. 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: But to me, and we're going to get to all 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: the other issues that they had in this game on 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Sunday too, litany of issues. To me, this is indicative 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: of this is maybe not maybe this is the most 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: exaggerated or the like the biggest thing, but this team 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: has not been a smart football team all year long, right, 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,279 Speaker 1: Like they've been a sloppy, undisciplined, especially on offense operation 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: all year long, pre snap penalties, not lining up correctly 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: and not running the right plays, having issues getting plays 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: in off the sideline into the like this is all 75 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: year long. Now, this is it on steroids, right, This 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: is like it to the tenth degree, right. But I 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 1: still feel like this was they had, this was coming, 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: like they had something like this coming that they were 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: going because they were not buttoned up that they were 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: going to have a moment like this in this season. 81 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: I didn't could never have imagined it would have been that, 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: but it felt like this was coming in some sort 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: of way. Well, what in what sucks is the two 84 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: guys on offense who have consistently been above it, right. 85 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: And there's been guys that have had nice stretches here 86 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: and there, But the two guys who have made it 87 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: work consistently throughout the roller coaster of this season have 88 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: been Ramond Ray Stevenson and Jacobe Myers. They've shown up, 89 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: They've done their part. They're really the two guys that 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: have been above I don't want to say above criticism, 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: but they've been, for lack of better term, they've done 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: their jobs. And for those two guys to be involved 93 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: here is just so striking right because Jacoby Myers is 94 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: such a smart football player and that was such a 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: bad decision that he made. Now, I will say, to 96 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: your overall point, I think you hit it on the head. 97 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I was on Patriots post game after the game on 98 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: ninety eight five Sports ub and yeah, my first thought, 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: and I found myself yelling at times throughout the game 100 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: this is stuff that all right, when we go out 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: there for training camp, right, or when we're out there 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: in the spring, right, we hear Belichick use the phrase, 103 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: and we'll use the phrase a lot install period in 104 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: teaching period, right, you know that it's like the third 105 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: day of camp and we're asking Bill about, well, what 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: do you see from this player? And every year we 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: have this conversation, he says, well, it's still the teaching period. 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: We're not in the evaluation period yet of camp. This 109 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: is the stuff they're teaching. This is the stuff they're installing, 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: the plays themselves, how they're called, where everybody should line up, substitutions, 111 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: like a lot of that procedural stuff. Yeah, that's what 112 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: they go over in the spring in the first couple 113 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: of days of camp. So nobody's gonna be You're gonna 114 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: have mistakes in it over the course of the season, 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: like you're not gonna be perfect all season, but for 116 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: it to show up as regularly as it does on 117 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: a week to week basis and as often as it 118 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: does within the games, it is striking to see because again, 119 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: this is stuff that you kind of work on in 120 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: the spring, like going back to the spring, some of 121 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: the first stuff you work on. Yeah, And the other 122 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: thing that bugs me about this play and just in 123 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: general that I've talked about a little bit as well, 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: So I realized I sound like a broken record to 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: some people that listen across all across the board here. 126 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: But I'm still really bothered by the way that the 127 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff has handled this whole thing. And it started 128 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: with that postgame press conference from Belichick saying mistakes were 129 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: made on the play and then saying that Mac Jones 130 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: couldn't reach the end zone. Okay, may hang on. Can 131 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: I as like the chief Mac defender address that. No, 132 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: if you're gonna say it's because they don't have the 133 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: protection and like all that, No, that's not what I'm 134 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna say. Like maybe he meant that, And initially I 135 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: want to give him the benefit of the doubt on that, 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't anymore. Yeah, we have seen Mac throw the 137 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: ball that far. Oh yeah, So unless there's some injury 138 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: we don't know about, that's just not true. It's just 139 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: a it's a lie, and it's a lie in the 140 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: sense that in my opinion, and this is and look, 141 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I hate doing this kind of stuff, but I actually 142 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: agree with your counterparts on ninety eight five and some 143 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: of the rate Talk radio points here with this is that, 144 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's covering up for Patricia and him, right, say, 145 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: oh well, Oh yeah, we we we called a job 146 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: because we felt like the players couldn't execute a hill 147 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Mary right like that. That That's what I'm hearing. And 148 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: the other thing that has bugged me was that yesterday 149 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: and Marine Matt's now heard this take like three times. 150 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: Yesterday we talked to assistant coaches. Now, I will say this, 151 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: They've had a rotation for who we get to talk 152 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: to been alphabetically, I think, right, all season long. So 153 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I get that this is already a formulaic thing that 154 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: was decided when the season started of how they were 155 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: going to rotate because by league rules, once a week 156 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots have to make coordinators available. Now they don't 157 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: have an offensive and defensive coordinator by name or by title, 158 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: I should say, they don't have one. So that is 159 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: a loophole that they've been able to rotate the coaches 160 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: in and out one at a time and basically limit 161 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: the amount of exposure to the media that Matt Patricia gets. 162 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: I think he's taught, he's spoken, and they rotate the 163 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: offensive coach. So there's two, right, there's the offensive coaches, 164 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: we get one a week in the defensive coaches by 165 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: the week. So doing the math in my head one, two, three, four, five, 166 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: there's five guys, six guys who speak. I think Ross 167 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Douglas has spoken, right, yes, Billy Yates doesn't doesn't so 168 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: he's not so six six times around in fifteen weeks. 169 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: And I remember them saying at the beginning of the year, 170 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: it's alphabeticalue I don't I might be making that up, 171 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: but it feels Patricia would be at the end of that. 172 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: And he spoke last week between the Cardinals game and 173 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: the Radios game, so I think that means he's spoken twice, 174 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: maybe three times. And there's been a handful of times 175 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: all the coaches have spoken, but it hasn't been much. Right. 176 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: So last year, for example, just to make sure everybody 177 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: understands what we're saying, Josh McDaniels would speak every Tuesday, right, 178 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: cam Accord speaks every Tuesday because they're coordinating. And then 179 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: speaking of last year, it would be we'd get Steve 180 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: Belichick one week, we get Geradmeyo another week, we get 181 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Mike Pellegrino another week, and DeMarcus DeMarcus Covington right, And 182 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember if he spoke last year. On they rotate, 183 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: they rotated through that right, because there was no by 184 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: title defensive coordinator. So I get that. It's a formula. 185 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: It's a formula, right, it's a it's a system that 186 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: they have in place here. With that being said, when 187 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: you lose a game like that, when you lose a 188 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: game like the way that they lost it, and I 189 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to the defense the way right, 190 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: the way doesn't just mean that play. It means the 191 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: totality of the You have a seven point lely with 192 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: three minutes to go, and you find, through a comedy 193 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: of errors, you blow. I wouldn't even go back before that. 194 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: I had questions for Patricia about things that happened before that. 195 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Well whole line seen. Yeah. My point being is when 196 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: you when a game goes that way offensively, and you 197 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: lose a game like that at the end, and then 198 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: you don't have the play callers available on both sides 199 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: of the football, right, you don't make those guys available 200 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: for us to be able to ask them that. Quite frankly, 201 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: the tougher questions, Dad, I don't think I think that's unfair, 202 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about to me. I think that 203 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: that's unfair to the fans, right, it's also unfair to 204 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: the players because we're and most importantly to play. Let's 205 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: start there. I mean, what, right, here's the thing. I've 206 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: always defended Bill Belichick, and this I've probably haven't getting 207 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: given this take as much openly since I started covering 208 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots professionally, but going back to when I as 209 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: a kid, Right, I've always kind of thought Bill Belichick's 210 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: deferral to the media was and granted this is when 211 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: they were winning regularly. Well, you don't want to put 212 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: anything out there by accident that's either going to tip 213 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: the opponent off or cause issues within your own room 214 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, at the end of the day, what 215 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: the fans want to see is wins. If being short 216 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: spoken in public means you win more games, it's a 217 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: trade off to fan should be happy with, yes, So 218 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't look at it that way. Now my issue 219 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: would be in line with your take. What what do 220 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: you think the scene's going to be to talk to 221 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers today in the locker room, to talk to 222 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: him monder Stevens in the locker room questions that maybe 223 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia could have answered yesterday and taken some of 224 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: the heat off that, right, you know, he wasn't. And 225 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: I think Nick Kayley was asked one or two questions 226 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: about it, but not a ton because it's just that's 227 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: that's not his role, right, right, So to Matt Patricia, Right, 228 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: if we get to talk to him yesterday, Nick Kayley 229 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: was asked because he was the one who spoke yes right, 230 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: he was the If we got to talk to him yesterday, 231 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: we could ask him, Hey, what did you radio in? Right? Like? 232 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: What was said in the huddle? Like, was it said, 233 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna run a draw and if nothing is there, 234 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: you immediately go down and we go into over. The 235 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: score is tied. The score is tied. The score is tied, right, Like, 236 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: that's what you should be saying, right, is continuously in 237 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: saying to Mac, Mac, make sure that all eleven guys 238 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: on the field understand that the last thing that you 239 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: can do is be careless with the football, right Like, 240 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: that's the last like we are playing for overtime? Was 241 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: that said? And I don't know if we would get 242 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: a straight answer, but I would also look at Steve, 243 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: and this is kind of segueing into what I really 244 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: want to talk about today, which is breaking this all down. 245 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: I would also ask Steve Belichick, who's every time that 246 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: the Patriots have a good defensive game plan and they 247 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: call a good defensive game, and they have and they 248 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: win the game on Steve called a great game, right, 249 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: So Steve's the play caller on the defensive side of football. 250 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: What I posted on Twitter last night the play calls 251 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: on the completions on the final drive for the Raiders, right, 252 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: the touchdown drive for the Raiders. And they went on 253 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: the three big completions in the game or in that drive, 254 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: the twenty yard or up the seam and the touchdown. 255 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: It's standard zone, standard four man rush, no blitz, no 256 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: simulated pressure, nothing right, just four man right rush. So 257 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: you went vanilla in the in the biggest moment of 258 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: the game, you went vanilla, Like that's what you did. 259 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Like all game long. You got Judean dropping j drop 260 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: into Vye, dropping Bentley, blitzing McMillan, like you're doing all 261 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: this stuff. They ran fire zones with the slot, blitzing 262 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: Miles Bryant off the edge, right like they're doing all 263 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: these different exotic stuff all game long. And then on 264 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: the final drive of the game when you need to 265 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: protect the end zone, they just rushed four guys, And 266 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't like they just lined up four guys on 267 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and those four guys rushed the 268 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: quarterback right like that was. It wasn't anything fancy at all. 269 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: So without being able to know the answer those questions, 270 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: and you can call in and ask us questions at 271 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: eight five five Pats five hundred, or you can email 272 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: in at web radio at Patriots apologize for not getting 273 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: people's calls last week. Yeah, I got a little caught 274 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: up with the draft. I we're gonna get draft questions today, 275 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: by the way. You know that. I want to start 276 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football, and I want 277 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: to go down the list of what I look. No, wait, 278 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: I want you to finish what you were saying, because 279 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: I cut you off, You cut yourself off, and then 280 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: I cut you off without getting the answer to those 281 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: questions from the coaches. What happens, we don't know. But 282 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: what are we doing. We don't know. We speculate, and 283 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: that's not good for anybody. We speculate, and that's because 284 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: I want you to finish that point, because it's an 285 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: important point. We speculate and then guys get thrown under 286 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: the bus that maybe he shouldn't get thrown under the 287 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: bus and it creates a bad environment. Yeah, and that's 288 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: the crux if you're like, I want to make sure 289 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: we don't leave that part un said, because that's the 290 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: crux of your whole argument here. That's accountability the right 291 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: and the biggest thing is is it's accountability to the players. 292 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: Because I was in the scrum with Jacobe Myers. I 293 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: was in the podium room when Max spoke and Ramandre 294 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: spoke and Jacobe Myers and look, I'm not trying to, 295 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to. The play was dumb. It was dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. 296 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: But Jakobe Myers stood there with what we thought were 297 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: tears in his eye. It looked like that, and eyes 298 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: were very red like he looked like he've been crying. 299 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: And he owned it. He wouldn't let us deflect blame. 300 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: He wouldn't let us point fingers at anybody else. He 301 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: looked me in the eye and said, I promise you 302 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: this was my fault. It wasn't. They didn't call for lateral. 303 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Patricia didn't throw me off, Mac didn't throw me off 304 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: from this was me, Like, do not put it. Basically, 305 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: he was saying to us, do not put this on 306 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: anybody else. Do not make this about everybody else. I 307 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: made a dumb play, so he took total ownership of it. 308 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: Ramandre then went to the podium and said, I'm the 309 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: one that started the whole chain of events, so it's 310 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: my fault too. I should have just gone down. And 311 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: then Mac gets to the podium and says he should 312 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: have tackled Chandler Jones, which, okay, hang on, hang on, 313 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: passed the quarterback. I have seen so many people say, well, 314 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: if only Matt could tackle better. First of all, if 315 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: Mac's biggest issue was his tackling ability, the Patriots would 316 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: be great Patriots. If your quarterbacks biggest problem is he 317 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: can't tackle, you're in a fantastic spot quarterback wise. There's 318 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: plenty to knock back four quarterback right related in that game. 319 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Second of all, if your game plan, if your game 320 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: comes down to your six foot three, two hundred and 321 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: seventeen pound quarterbacks has to tackle, I'm going by wikipedia, 322 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: six three has to tackle a six foot six whatever 323 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: it is, has to tackle a six foot six, two 324 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pound defensive lineman who also happens to 325 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: be one of the best pure athletes in the league. 326 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: If that's what your game comes down to, it's you've 327 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: already lost. You've lost for putting yourself in that situation. 328 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: Not three, We'll call it two A. How many quarterbacks 329 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: in the league realistically can make that tackle? Like three 330 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: or four? Maybe like Josh Allen probably could. The name 331 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: I saw somebody bring up his big bend back in 332 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, he's probably gonna put up their wattle 333 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: over there. Well like Prime Ben. Yeah, you know who 334 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: are the other like just big lurking. Aren't that many 335 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: of those guys anymore? Right? So Kobe, maybe all the 336 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: other players took accountability for it to the point that 337 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Mack is saying that he should have tackled Chandler Jones, 338 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: and yet we hear nothing from the coaches and why 339 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: why that's important? And we're probably delving into some psychology 340 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: stuff here is when you see you guys say that 341 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: you know and you're and look, we work together, right, 342 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: And I'm using a smaller scale example here, but we 343 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: work together and one of us would make a mistake usually, mate, 344 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: and I don't it. And if I was just sitting 345 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: there not talking about it. You probably would have been like, 346 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: let's kid, just keep screwing up. He's not saying anything 347 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: about if you own it. It's you're you're showing those 348 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: around you, those you work with. Hey, I know I 349 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: messed up. I want to get better. This is on me, Like, 350 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: let's move. That's the kind of guy you can get behind. 351 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: That's the kind of guy you keep working you want 352 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: to keep working with, versus a guy who I mean, 353 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: nobody's pointing fingers that anybody else, which is good, but 354 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: not saying anything isn't great either. I think the coach 355 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: pointed fingers, did everybody else? Bill actually did it a 356 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: little bit. You're right, I don't think players are players 357 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: are not. No, they're definitely no. The player again, it's 358 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: a stupid play. Not to defend the play. It's a 359 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: really bad play. It's going to go down as one 360 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: of the dumbest players in NFL history. Yeah, but in 361 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: terms of how you respond to something like that, a 362 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: plus from the players. Okay, So I want to talk 363 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: about the actual access and knows and get into this 364 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: a little bit now that we had our moments to 365 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: rant a little bit about this situation. Twenty three minute moment. Typical, 366 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: very typical of us. We might not have started to 367 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: write it too, but about that very typical. Uh, let's 368 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: start with Mac. And I wanted to tell people beforehand 369 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: that I I've I've separated the offensive issues here into buckets, 370 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: so it's not I'm not just gonna point to Mac 371 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: as an issue. Mac. I have a receiver issues and 372 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: I have play calling issues, right because I actually thought 373 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: the one thing that kind of escaped my flamethrower this 374 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: week was the offensive line. They were fine, they were fine. Okay, Yeah, 375 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: you go up against a really good edge rusher Duo 376 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: Crosby and Chandler Jones had their moments, they made their 377 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: impactful plays, but they didn't take over the game and 378 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: you rush for two hundred yards like you were fine 379 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: up front? Okay, But I want to start with Mac, 380 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: and I think that there's some more psychology stuff that 381 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: we will probably get into, but I want to start 382 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: with mechanical issues that I'm seeing with Mac Jones, because 383 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: I think that this is from an execution and why 384 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: all the throws were getting sprayed all over the place, 385 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: especially in the first half, Like why that was happening. 386 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: A lot of it to me by watching it back 387 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: is mechanical, and I think the biggest thing that you 388 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: see with him is so there's like four points of 389 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: mechanics with the quarterback. Right, there's defeat, there's his hips, 390 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: there's his shoulders, and his eyes right like eyes obviously 391 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: is a little bit more about mental than physical, but 392 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: all four of those things need to be in sync 393 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: to execute a perfect pass. And the biggest thing that 394 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: you want to see is that kinetic energy right from 395 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: the ground up, Like everything should start from your feet 396 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: and like you should see the energy flow up the 397 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: body and see it all uncoil at the same time. 398 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of what I'm seeing with Mac and 399 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of this stems from how he 400 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: handles pressure as well, is that he does not throw 401 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: from a great base. He doesn't throw from a wide 402 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: step into it, you know, solid foundation from the waist down. 403 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: So what's happening is is he's he's not really getting 404 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: that platform on the ground. And when he doesn't get 405 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: that platform on the ground, he is trying to then 406 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: use his torso and use his shoulders and his upper 407 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: body to snap the throw right right, and his front 408 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: shoulder is flying open as a result, So he's thrown 409 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: from this skinny platform and then his front shoulders flying open, 410 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: So naturally what's happening is that he's not going getting 411 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: through the football and so he's sailing passes. So that's 412 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: why when he had those back to back throws in 413 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: the flat, the ball's sailed and nowhere near the target 414 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: is because that front shoulders flying open, his feet aren't 415 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: really pointed in, you know, in a really solid direction, 416 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: and he's just airmailing the ball. The John who Smith 417 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: what you know? We can The route wasn't great by 418 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: either Smith or Tai Kwon, to be honest with you. 419 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: But the throw sailed. Okay, it was a bad throw. 420 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: This throws sailed because Max Crosby's coming off the right 421 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: side and Mac didn't want to step into it because 422 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: Max Crosby's right in his face and once again he's 423 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: he's throwing it from that bad platform and the ball 424 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: sales on him. So this really started against Buffalo, and 425 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to call it a one off 426 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: and against Buffalo and see if it progressed again last 427 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: week against Arizona. He didn't throw the ball down the 428 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: field all that much, so it didn't really come up right, 429 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: And then this week he threw the ball down the 430 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: field more and these mechanical issues are coming up again. 431 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: So what I my read on on the whole thing, 432 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: and again this is sort of again armchair psychology, is 433 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: that physically he's now mechanically broken because mentally he's so 434 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: frustrated with what's going on that now it's starting to 435 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: impact his physical right. Yeah, I mean I think he's 436 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: been hit so much. This is sped up. This is 437 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: what we spent all that time talking about the beginning 438 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: of year. What you just described is a quarterback being 439 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: sped up. He's been hit so much that he's now 440 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: playing as though he's expecting to get hit even when 441 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: he's not, and his mechanics are all off because he's pressing, 442 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: he wants to get the ball out quick, he doesn't 443 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: want to move around, he doesn't know where the pocket's 444 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: going to be, he doesn't know how much time he 445 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: has in the pocket. He's sped up, and this is 446 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: what happens. The mechanics start to fall apart, and this 447 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: is where you start to enter that point of visit fixable, 448 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: because once the mechanics start to go, that's what you know, 449 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: if you're having a tough sense with the timing, if 450 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks having a tough sense with the timing right, and 451 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: mechanics are fine, he's just throwing the ball too quickly. Well, 452 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: you get him behind a good offensive line and it 453 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: settles down because you get that that rhythm back, that 454 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: timing back. Once the mechanics start to go, now you're drifting. Now, 455 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: it's all right, We've really got to pull this guy back. 456 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: So that's it's because it's not like his mechanics have 457 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: always been bad. This wasn't an issue with him in 458 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: the past, even going back to the beginning of the season, 459 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: this wasn't an issue. Now. I've never really loved his 460 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: feet in terms of stepping into throws and really letting 461 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: it go. I'm I've always felt like he's thrown a 462 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: little bit um from a narrow base, which I would prefer. 463 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: You know, I sent you that the clip of Brady 464 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: throwing that slam. Okay, that was a He doesn't he 465 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: doesn't like it when I bring up Brady because he's 466 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: not Tom Brady. He's not Tom Brady. No. But okay, 467 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: but here's the thing. All I'm saying to you is 468 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: show me something attainable. All I'm saying to you is 469 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: is that Brady is the gold standard, right, Brady has 470 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: the best throwing mechanics in the history of the NFL. Yes, 471 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: he's perfect. He it is literally perfect, okay. And when 472 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: he and granted I think just from an eye like 473 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: esthetic sense, he's six foot five, so his legs are 474 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: a lot longer than Mac Jones's legs, right, so when 475 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: he steps into a throw, you can really see it. Okay. 476 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: But Brady, everything just is perfect with his mechanics. So 477 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: I always go to him and say, it was great 478 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: to watch him versus the Bengals after coming off watching 479 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Mac versus the Raiders, because I could see the perfect 480 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: mechanics that Brady has versus the mechanical flaws that Mac 481 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: is having, and so much of it to me, starts 482 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: with the base, starts with his feet, and not to me, 483 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 1: the hesitation to really step up in the pocket and 484 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: really extend that front leg out and have that weight 485 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: transfer that you want right from front to back is 486 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: because he doesn't trust the pocket, right, right, That's that's it. 487 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: And we know that that's it because it wasn't always 488 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: an issue for him. Right, So I think that what 489 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: changed the offensive line isn't protecting him the same as 490 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: it right in the past. So I think the the 491 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: problem that you have is that on the surface, let's 492 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: just let the last three games are kind of mood 493 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: in this conversation, I think. But because they're not going 494 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: to fix his mechanics overnight, right like, that's this is 495 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: now going to be a process, right, so this is 496 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: going to be an off season kind So Tom House 497 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: could he could get with Tom House in the off season. 498 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: Coach d is his quarterbacks coach of choice, his private 499 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: quarterback coach, but he also works with Tom House a 500 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: little bit, and he could get with those two guys 501 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: in the off season and against air, they'll fix his mechanics, 502 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: right like, and he'll come in in mini caamp next year, 503 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: just like he came in in minicamp this year, and 504 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: he'll be throwing bombs a train next Look at that 505 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: he's playing that it's totally fine. But it was right 506 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: from the jump. Once we got into actual contacted padded 507 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: practices in training camp in August, you started to see 508 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: the decay beginning. Yeah, and now we're at that point. 509 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: So when I watched this film against the Raiders. I 510 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: didn't see a ton of some of the stuff that 511 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: I saw, let's say, against the Jets and the Colts 512 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: earlier this year, where he's staring down first reads and 513 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: he's not starting with his eyes in the right places 514 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: and mental processing issues. This to me was more mechanical 515 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: and actually throwing the football accurately. Yeah, And i'd also 516 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: want to as we move on to the next issues, 517 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: unless you have something else on, mathewanta really want to 518 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: get into the next thing. I don't know. The The 519 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: other thing that I just want to mention is I 520 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: don't think that Max's frustrations are being talked about properly 521 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: because I think people are actually want to get into this, 522 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: because I think people are blaming. Some people are like, 523 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: he's a pouty baby, he needs to relax, right, And 524 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: then other people are saying, well, he has a right 525 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: to be mad, And the truth is obviously in the middle, right, 526 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: like he needs to control his temper better and control 527 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: his emotions better, and he's right to be angry for sure. 528 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing is is that at 529 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: this point, and we're going to talk about the details 530 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: and this basing and the timing and the routes and 531 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff in a second. But at 532 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: this point, you were not going to fix it all. 533 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: You're not going to fix at all. Okay, you're not. 534 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: This is not training camp where you have a month 535 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: to drill this stuff and fully padded practices six days 536 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: a week. Like, you just don't have that time right 537 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: now to get all this stuff down and get all 538 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: this stuff where it's supposed to be and get everybody 539 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: lined up perfectly and all that kind of stuff. So 540 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: the third down timeout that wipes out that Jacobe Myers touchdown, 541 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: my read on that situation was that Mac through touchdown 542 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: passes Jacobe Myers. Denny has the realization that there was 543 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: a whistle because of a timeout from the sideline, and 544 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: he looks over to the sideline and is like, what 545 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: the hell now, Like, what's wrong now? Like we ran 546 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: the play, it worked, I threw a touchdown, Like what 547 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: wrong now? And he comes over to the sideline and 548 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: they're saying so and so didn't have the right didn't 549 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: know that it wasn't running the right route, or so 550 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: and so wasn't lined up properly. At this point in 551 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: this season, who the hell cares. Okay, just get to 552 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: the line and run the play, like if Hunter Henry's 553 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: running a flat instead of a curl. All right, I 554 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: understand that that might in some instances result in a 555 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: touchdown like an interception, I mean right, Like, I understand 556 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: where the mistakes could happen there, but at some point 557 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: in time from the sideline that the coaches have to 558 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: have some trust and the players. And this is I 559 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: think the biggest problem with this offense right now is 560 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: that it's a two way street. The coaches don't trust 561 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: the players to execute, and the players don't touch trust 562 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: the coaches are putting them in the best positions. So 563 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: when the players actually make a good play and then 564 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: it's wiped out because of a time out from the sideline, 565 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: that's got to be infuriating. Okay, it's like, ah, we 566 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: got it in the end zone. What are you guys doing? 567 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: And then it's snowballs on him? And that's the issue, 568 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: right it is, because then on fourth down it's snowballs 569 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: on So that's the problem. And I talked about this 570 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: last week. I don't remember I was on this show 571 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: or one of the other shows or whatever, but I 572 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: love that Mac plays with passion. I love that he 573 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: gets fired up. I think he has a ton of 574 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: reason to be justified to his frustration, and I think 575 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: playing that way it gets your teammates to buy in 576 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: all of it. It shows your leader. I would much 577 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: rather guy like that than a guy who just goes 578 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: out and goes through the motions. Right. That being said, 579 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that that shouldn't impact your play, 580 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: that your emotions shouldn't impact your play. They should, but 581 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: you need to harness them to elevate your play. Is 582 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: a very emotional exactly, but he harnesses it. He harnesses it. 583 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: Was that was the first time I've seen mac Jones 584 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: let his emotions spill over to the point where they 585 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: impacted him right as a player, right, And that obviously 586 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: can't happen, and it's something he needs to work on. 587 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: That being said, I'm with you in that I understand 588 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: why he's frustrating because they finally got it right. And 589 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: it goes back to what I said before, you know, 590 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: getting the play into substitutions where everybody's lining up, this 591 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: is ota stuff and they finally and so I mean, 592 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: what I would guess is not even necessarily that they 593 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: didn't like the look they had. But I wonder if 594 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: you know because Bill's standing right there next to Patrician Judge. 595 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: There's a picture of it. I think they showed it 596 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: on TV. Bill says, we're running this right, and then 597 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: mad or Joe says, no, we're running this type. No, 598 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: we're not on the same bench time out right. That 599 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: can't happen like that. That would be my guess as 600 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: to what happened. There's something like that that can't happen. 601 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: It just can't happen in that whole sequence. But sometimes, 602 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: and I know you're agreeing with me, but like stay 603 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: every once in a while, stay out of it it. So 604 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, it shouldn't happen. You're saying, if 605 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: it does, just let it play out right, Which neither 606 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: of us are wrong. It's not one or the other. 607 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 1: It goes back to the we're looking at it from 608 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: different levels. But I would just say the whole sequence. Yeah. 609 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: First of all, their last fourteen first in goal situations 610 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: from inside the five, the Raiders had allowed a touchdown 611 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: fourteen in a row. Right. They showed it on TV 612 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: like right after that first play, and I was like, 613 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: oh boy, um so vermondra from the two to the 614 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: one on first down. Fine, great, They then go was 615 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: it was time out the touchdown, taking away of the 616 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: time out right. Then they run this weird design where 617 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: they ran a quick slint to Nelsonagler, but they motioned 618 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: underneath it, yes, which was I don't maybe that was 619 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: a wrong route or something. I think it was Pierre Strong, 620 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: right was the guy who motioned. Then they go time 621 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: out again. Then you get to penalty, and then you're 622 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: kicking the field goal. Is all basic avoidable stuff, and 623 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: the real question is, you know, I'm somebody who sat 624 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: here all year, Evan, You've you've heard go on and 625 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: on and on about this and say they're giving the 626 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: ball to Remond Receivens in too much. Yeah, he's gonna 627 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: get worn down. You know, they need to take something 628 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: off his plate. Stop giving him the ball so much. 629 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about right there, right of all the 630 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 1: times to go away from him, you have this great 631 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: power back to first down, he gained half the distance 632 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: to go right. Just run that again, just running and 633 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: the whole not going under center thing, I don't whatever, 634 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Like they clearly don't want to go under center. This year. 635 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: That's not an issue with just that sequence. That's a 636 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: big picture thing. But the fact that they were I 637 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: don't know if they were afraid to run it, or 638 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: you know, they wanted to get Mac a touchdown pass 639 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: to kind of get him going, or whatever it was, 640 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: to not go back to the run there. I've yet 641 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: to hear a good defense of it, Yeah, for sure. 642 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: And this kind of gets into the next thing I 643 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, which was, you know, receiver issues 644 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: and some of the spacing and timing and all this 645 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So the red zone sequence is still 646 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: is really good for this as well in some respects too. 647 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: But I think the two we talked about line getting 648 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: lined up like one of the biggest when they came 649 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: in this offseason, Alex and when we got the training 650 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: camp and we talked about this streamlined offense that they 651 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: were going to run. The biggest thing that all the players, 652 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: the explanation they got from the coaches as to why 653 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: they were making these wholesale changes was to play faster, right. 654 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: They wanted to be able to get to the line 655 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and play faster in the down before the 656 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: down all of that. That's why I think they stripped 657 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: some of the optionality out of these routes, right, so 658 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: to get guys to play faster, but they're not. They're 659 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: not playing faster and they're not ready to play Johnny 660 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: Smith on the sneak like, maybe, yes, Mac should have 661 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: paused longer right before they snaps the ball on the 662 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: fork down sneak to not get that false start penalty. 663 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: And the reason why they had to do it was 664 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 1: because they were going to get an illegal formation penalty, right, 665 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: so john Smith had to change his alignment to avoid 666 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: the legal formation penalty. And it's like, can you just 667 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: get lined up? Like, can we just get lined up? 668 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: And then when the ball is snapped outside of the sneat, 669 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: just in general, can you run the damn route? Like 670 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you, Alex how many times Mac Jones 671 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: is hit the top of his drop and he's staring 672 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: at people's backs all five. I mean, it goes back 673 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: to staring at the backs. Who was Orlovsky had that 674 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: great breakdown on it a couple of weeks ago, and 675 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: it's still the same thing. We thought maybe during the 676 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: bye that was something they'd work on, and I think 677 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: Mac even hinted at the fact that they might have 678 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: worked on it during the bye and the timing set, 679 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: and that has to be a design thing, right. I 680 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: don't It's not like Max going through his drop back 681 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: too quickly. I don't look at him dropping back and thinking, oh, 682 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: he's rushing this drop back. No, If anything, I think 683 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: he's very patient with it. So the only explanations are one, 684 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: which I think is probably the main explanation here, is 685 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: that the receivers just are taking the sweet time, okay. 686 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: And this is a big, big issue for multiple guys 687 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: right now. Taekwon, this is a major issue with his 688 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: game at the moment, is that he thinks because back 689 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: in college, you know, at Baylor, the quarterback had all 690 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: day to throw in the big twelve, and so he's 691 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: thinking that he's got twenty minutes to get into his route. 692 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: And the ball that Max sailed to John hu Smith. 693 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: A lot of the reason why I think he sailed 694 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: that is because Taekwon Thorton didn't run his route quickly enough, 695 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: so he didn't know what the outside corner was going 696 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: to do. Right, So the outside corner, Taekwon Thornton's there, 697 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: you know, throwing jab steps and stuff like that. At 698 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, try to get off the coverage 699 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: and the corners just sitting there. And to Mac, it's 700 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: like if that corner, if that is he going to 701 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: follow him or not? Is he gonna trap it? Like? 702 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: How is he going to react to Taikwon Thornton's route? 703 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: That route is meant to pull the corner out of 704 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: the passing lane, right, and you have that corner under 705 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: combination to try to get that corner out of there, 706 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't happen because of that, And I think 707 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: that Mac threw the ball to the back pylon to 708 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: Johnny to be one hundred percent sure that it was 709 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: either going to be caught or it was Maybe He's 710 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: got to put it in a spot where it's either 711 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: we say this all the time, right, We're only his receiver, right, 712 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: So he throws it and ends up overthrowing it. So 713 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: there was another play at third down play, and I'm 714 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: gonna get into some of the third down stuff that 715 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: that was not good in this game two for thirteen. 716 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: There was another third down play where they ran their 717 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: double dig concept, which they run like seventeen times a 718 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: game on third down, and they ran it again, and 719 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: they ran it right into the Raiders coverage. The Raiders 720 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: had one cross on and they ran it right into 721 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: the coverage. But underneath the defense, it left Rumandre Stevenson 722 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: one on one with a linebacker right where if Mac 723 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: can cancel out the digs because of the coverage and 724 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: get his eyes underneath to the running back, there's a 725 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: whole acre of space that Remandre makes a cut at 726 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: the top of the route, catches the football, makes a 727 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: linebacker miss, and they might have a first down. You know, 728 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: James White, Right, That's exactly what James White did. But 729 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: Remandri takes the sweet time to get into the route. 730 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: So when Matt goes to look towards him, Remander is 731 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: not even at the top of the route yet. Like 732 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: get go, like go run the route. Okay, the spacing 733 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: thing is a major issue too, where there's just guys 734 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: on top of each other all the time. And there 735 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: was one third down where Hunter Henry dropped the pass 736 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: right and people watch that and they say, Okay, he's 737 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: past the sticks, he's open to catch a ball ball 738 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: he drops it. They should convert, yes, But when I 739 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: look at it, I look at it and say, is 740 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: this sustainable? Like can they execute this play again, right, 741 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: like in this play count five times instead of just 742 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: one time because they got lucky and they cut ridge 743 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: worked out that way. And this I think stems back 744 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: from like when people are like, well, what happened in Minnesota? 745 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: What happened in Minnesota is that the Viking stink at 746 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: covering people, right, and they got some guys open. But 747 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 1: when you actually broke down the details of the film, 748 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: it still wasn't good for the Patriots. They just won 749 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: some one on one matchups in that game, and that 750 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: play they're running like mesh crossers at the sticks and 751 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: then they're also having Taekwon Thornton running out. So now 752 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton is in Hunter Henry's passing lane. He's on 753 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: top of him. And at one point you can freeze 754 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: the frame and all five receivers are in like a 755 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: four by four box in the middle of the field, 756 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? Right? Like that that's not 757 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: that's not how that that play needs to be drawn up. 758 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: If you're gonna run mesh and you're gonna have you know, 759 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: the two other receivers need to get the heck out 760 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: a dodge, right like run verticals up the field to 761 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: take the coverage and open up the passing lanes to 762 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: the mesh crossers. Instead, they're all everybody is on top 763 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: of each other. So whether this is design or or 764 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: coaching right, like execution of the coaching, it's it's just 765 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: not it's it's getting worse, not better on film the 766 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: way that these guys are running routes. And at this point, obviously, 767 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's a difference between route running ability and 768 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: the routes the players running right, and yeah, you get 769 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, yeah, because I don't think the 770 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: players are just blatantly running the raw routes unless they 771 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: don't know what the plays are and they're there they 772 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: think that it's one call and it's another. But that 773 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: would again go back to coaching, right, So I think 774 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: that as route runners, and look, we don't have a 775 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: baseline for Tae Kwon last year because he wasn't here 776 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: last year obviously, but as route runners from Nelson Aguil 777 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: or Kendrick Bourne, they've regressed. And I don't know if 778 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: that's all McDaniels. I don't know if it's McDaniels and 779 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: Mick Lombardi leaving. And this is also kind of have 780 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: to throw Troy Brown into the issue pot here. I mean, 781 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: he's the wide receivers coach. That's fair, and the receivers 782 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: have not his group has not been good. So this 783 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 1: is just an issue that's been going on all season 784 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: with the spacing and with the whole thing the third down. 785 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: And now we're getting into my last bucket. Less you 786 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: have something else to add about about the receivers, No, 787 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: this is all you, this is your specialty. Then we 788 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: get into the play calling bucket. Okay, so I kind 789 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: of already skipped ahead on this one. So the two 790 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: biggest gripes, that three biggest gripes. One was the red 791 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: zone sequence. We are we already did. That was my 792 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: big That was what was the second thing, and this 793 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: is what I posted in after further review, was about 794 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: the third down predictability. They're running the same three plays 795 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: on third down every single game. And I wrote this, 796 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: and I wish that I hadn't given given the Raiders 797 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: staff as much credit. But they do have Josh McDaniels 798 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 1: and Patrick Graham over there who have institutional knowledge of 799 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots, right, and mc daniel certainly has institutional knowledge 800 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: mac so I think that that's somewhat of a factor. 801 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: But the Raiders are playing these man coverages with either 802 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: you can call it robber, you can call it cross, 803 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, where they have everything leveraged, 804 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: like there's help defenders exactly, like receivers are running into 805 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: defenders right like you know, Hunter Henry's running a dig 806 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: or running like an underard a short dig, and there's 807 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: just a linebacker or safety just sitting there waiting for him, 808 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: right like sure, come run over here, like I'm I'm 809 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: waiting for you. They had one play on third down 810 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: where the outside corner they're running like two digs at 811 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: the sticks. The outside corner has inside leverage because he 812 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: knows the outside receivers running an inbreaking route, and then 813 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: the inside receiver whose Hunter Henry has the robber dropping 814 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: into the passing window right the help defender is coming 815 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: into the window. So both receivers are running into leverage 816 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: like they're both running into help or leverage or whatever 817 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: you want to call it, and there's no place to 818 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: go with the ball. So they're predictable on third down. 819 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: Everybody knows what they're running on third down. The sequencing 820 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: on the red zone, it was was terrible, right, the 821 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 1: whole red zone sequence was horrible. And then I would 822 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: also mention the drive right before they gave the Raiders 823 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: the football back was deplorable. Deplorable. Yeah, yeah, the Qibi 824 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: boot just third and one maybe I actually think that's 825 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: an underused play, But on third and eleven, no, thank you. 826 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: So I wrote it down, especially play by play with it. Yeah, 827 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: So first and ten they go. They bring yadneykajuiced in 828 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: to go tackle eligible, which I don't hate. First in time, 829 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: they gave three yards. Fine, fine, you're trying to run 830 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 1: the clock like nobody's expecting to throw the ball down 831 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: the field. So then and this is where all the 832 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: issues with the offense forever is coming up, right, then 833 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: they get a false star penalty. Yeah, okay, so they 834 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: go eligible again, which is fine, like if you want 835 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: to go from second, first and ten to second and 836 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: seven to third and three, like I'm fine with that, yeah, 837 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: in that situation. But then they get the fall star penalty. 838 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: So now it's second and twelve. They run it again. 839 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: They run the football again at second and twelve, so 840 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: now it's third and ten because they just wanted to 841 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: keep the clock running. They just wanted to keep the 842 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: clock running, which go screen there, that's where you go screen. 843 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: And then on third and ten, we all know that 844 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: they ran the Naked Boot and the Naked Boot with 845 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 1: Mac Jones trying it to get out the back door 846 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: against Max Flipping Crosby, who's the best player on the 847 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: Raiders defense and as an animal. Yeah, one of those ones. 848 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: I honestly don't hate the concept of it. I don't 849 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: if you have justin fields, sure, or even if so, 850 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of variables there were. If it's thirt 851 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: and one, I'd like a lot more than third and 852 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 1: eleven if it's not Max Crosby, Like even with Mac, 853 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: there's some situations where I think if it was third 854 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: and one, even with Mac, I don't think that's a 855 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: bad call. He was never getting it on third and eleven. 856 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: They just wanted something they wanted the least. I guess 857 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 1: what they wanted. They wanted a play that they thought 858 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: was going to take the Raiders by surprise. But they 859 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: still wanted to run clock. But I also didn't want 860 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: to put it in the air. But not even that, 861 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: not even not putting it in the air, they didn't 862 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: want to handoff. They didn't want to handoff. I think 863 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: they didn't want to handoff because they knew the handoff 864 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: was going to go nowhere, so at least this play would. 865 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: But they could have gone, they could have gone if 866 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 1: they want a deception, they could have gone end around. 867 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: That's right. I don't understand, well because remember the last 868 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: time they got funky with that. Do you remember what 869 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: that was? It was going into a half against Buffalo. Okay, 870 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: fair enough, But I guess like and maybe they just 871 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: they were worried about the execution of that kind of 872 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: play where they were going to fumble it. That's what 873 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just the snap, that's the only thing. 874 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: It's just the snap. And they went under center. It 875 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: was one of the few times they went under center. Yeah, 876 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: if but if they run the boot right that I 877 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: would have given them. Hey, at least macknew to go 878 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: down and bounds. That's true. We we've made progress there. 879 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: If I would have given them so much credit as 880 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: as a staff, if they had ran a reverse there, 881 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: if they had hard faked it on the outside zone 882 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: to Ramandre Matt keeps it and then flips it to 883 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: Marcus Jones coming in the other direction, I would have 884 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: been like that might have scored a touchdown, or he 885 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: might have been out the back and into the end zone. 886 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: Let me like somebody had I don't even think we 887 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,919 Speaker 1: need to go that deep, did they because the fake 888 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: handoff on the bootleg was stretched right, they made it 889 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: look like did they run stretch from under center in 890 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: that game at all prior to like a little bit, 891 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: but like it was in the first quarter and it 892 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: wasn't even a look. And we've talked about this before, 893 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: right the set up place, it wasn't even a look 894 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: they'd really given them, right, there's not really much to 895 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 1: suck the Raiders in there, right, So that was I 896 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: think the bigger, the biggest, the big picture problem that 897 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: I feel because I mentioned I thought the third down 898 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: stuff was was horrible. They were two for thirteen on 899 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: third down. They are getting into these third down situations, 900 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: Alex where they don't even try to pick up the 901 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: first down that play that they they called the bootleg, like, 902 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: might as well just punt on third down. And this 903 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: happens all the time back in the day, they might 904 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 1: have pooch punted there. All this happens all the time, 905 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 1: though that they are if it's like third and eight 906 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: plus I think the third and sixth through third and ten, 907 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 1: like they they they kind of try to go for it, right, 908 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: But like I would say, any sort of third and 909 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: long situation, it's like fifty fifty of whether or not 910 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: they're even gonna come close to throwing passes. So since 911 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: the bye since the bye week, yes, you know what, 912 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: they're third down percentages? Well, I know that they're twenty 913 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: ninth in the league in general, so it can't be 914 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: thirty first. Yeah, oh, twenty ninth overall. Yes, okay, So 915 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: since since the buy, yeah, they're thirty first. They're a 916 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: tenth of a percentage point higher in Washington twenty four 917 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: point six percent, twenty four percent. And I think, to 918 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: give credit to Washington, they're five for six on fourth 919 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: down in that span. A lot of it, I think 920 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: it stems from the fact that when it's third and ten, 921 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 1: they're getting into the a lot of these and and 922 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: they're in their own territory. Yeah, they don't even they 923 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: are throwing that that downfield drinking ink screen that worked 924 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: one time, right, Like they're not even trying to throw 925 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: the ball past the sticks and those situations. And I 926 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: get that you have no trust in anything right now, 927 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: but you had a chance in that series. You pick 928 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 1: up one first down, the game's over. The game's over. 929 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: If you pick up one first down there, there's two 930 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: minutes to go. You pick up one first down there, 931 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: the game is over. Right. That was for the game. 932 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: The bootleg was for the game. They were trying to 933 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: ice it on that right and that like, they just 934 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: didn't even call anything on second or third down that 935 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: stood a chance to pick up the ten yards. And 936 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: that has been all season long. It's not just that 937 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: play or that sequence. It's been all season long that 938 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: they don't even try. Let's take patty and hang on, 939 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: hang on real quick. I just want to I want 940 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: to throw this on the average yards to go their 941 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: third longest in the league on third down that span 942 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: eight point two yards per right. So I've always been 943 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: in the camp that first and second down has been 944 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: a bigger problem for this team than third down, and 945 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 1: this game it was third day that was the problem. 946 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. When you're setting yourself up with 947 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: eight point two, you're not doing enough on first and second. 948 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: But they were fine on first and second in this game. 949 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: So it's my point. There's a weird number. I don't 950 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: know what to make of it. I said this before 951 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: the show. Their average distance to go on first down 952 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: this year is ten point two yards. That doesn't sound 953 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: like a lot, but because they've had so many false 954 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: start penalties on trags that average it's them, the Seahawks 955 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: and the Raiders at ten point two. It's the longest 956 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: in the league. All right, let's take Patty and then 957 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk defense here and wrap things up. Patty, thanks 958 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: for hanging on. Sorry, we's and left you on hold 959 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: for so long. Oh, no worries, guys, upset. I missed 960 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: the last two weeks because he guys came on early. 961 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, got kind of a crazy question. Maybe 962 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: actually a couple of crazy questions. Neither of them are 963 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: draft related, so I won't get into that. Sorry, but 964 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: let's just say a couple couple of hypotheticals. First one 965 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: is if Craft goes to Billichick and just says, hey, listen, Bill, 966 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: we got we gotta do something here on offense, and 967 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: he's not willing to budge on on demoting Mattie Ke 968 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: and gets bringing in a real offensive guy, and they 969 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: end up moving on, what about Billy Oh to come 970 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: in here and be the head coach. That's the first 971 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: hypothetical and the second one. I don't know the details 972 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: of Bill's contract if it's a year to year, but 973 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: if it's two years, what about raiding Bill for a 974 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: first round pick? Yeah, So this is thanks for the call, Patty. 975 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: This is the first trading building. I think a start 976 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 1: was started by Mike Florio. He had a don't even 977 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: know if it's a report. It was more like he 978 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: was on a show like this and just kind of 979 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: was talking right about things. So could I don't know 980 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: if we're we're really at trading Bill and all that 981 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 1: kind I also don't know. I feel like he'd retire 982 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: before that happened. Does he want to go at seventy 983 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: new operations set up a whole Yeah, I think at 984 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: that point he would just write like I don't necessarily didn't. 985 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: Cronk was the one who did that right where they 986 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: try to trade me retired, right. I think Bill would 987 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: pull this. So I think the bigger issue to me, 988 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: and I guess this is sort of related to what 989 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: Patty was saying. The bigger issue to me is that 990 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 1: you we're just assuming that somebody's gonna want to take 991 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: this OC job, right, Like, we're just assuming that somebody's 992 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna want to come in and fix all of this 993 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: mess at Matt Patricia and Joe Judge have caused. I 994 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: don't think it's as unattractive though, is you're maybe living 995 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: laying it out to me. I just I do. And 996 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,439 Speaker 1: at some point in time when I have more time 997 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: and I'm not focused on on in season stuff and 998 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: we get into offseason, like we can try to compile 999 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: a more um complete list because that Bill O'Brien's the 1000 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: only name that ever comes up, right, Like he's the 1001 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: only well and then like Nick Kylee and Troy Brown, Right, 1002 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: but I think Bill O'Brien's gonna have options, so you're 1003 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 1: not not only do I well, So he was asking 1004 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 1: would be what about Bill is the head coach? Bill 1005 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: O'Brian's head coach at Bill Belichick left, to which I 1006 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: would say, you could do worse, but you need a GM. 1007 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: You cannot have Bill O'Brien. Ben can't be Macro because 1008 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: they'll get pushed around by Bill O'Brien. That Bill O'Brien 1009 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: was a pretty good coach in Houston. He did not 1010 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: get let go because of coaching deficiencies. It was his moves. 1011 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: As a general manager, you cannot let him have control 1012 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: of the roster, right. So I think that just in general, 1013 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: and not necessarily about Bill O'Brien, just in general, if 1014 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 1: we're talking about moving on from Bill Belichick, I would 1015 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: like it to be an offensive minded coach, right Like 1016 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,800 Speaker 1: I would like to be Brian Dable, right. And I'm 1017 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,439 Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna actually get Brian Dable, but I'm saying, 1018 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: like somebody like Brian Dable, who is going to come 1019 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,879 Speaker 1: in here and fix mac Jones, right, Like, I think 1020 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: that that's that's my most important thing. But I do wonder, 1021 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, who else would be out there that they 1022 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: would consider for the OC job and would want the 1023 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: OC job, and like all these types of things. I 1024 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: think that that's a factor in all of this. And 1025 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: now I think we've all just put our eggs in 1026 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: the Bill O'Brien basket and and hoped and prayed. But 1027 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: I think that Bill O'Brien's gonna have some options, and 1028 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: I think that he's gonna it's gonna be a big 1029 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: price tag. Like I think he's gonna demand a pretty 1030 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: lucrative contract to sign him. Are they willing to do 1031 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,280 Speaker 1: those things? We'll see. I'm not there yet though, Patty. 1032 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I appreciate the call, but I'm not We're 1033 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 1: not at this conversation yet from Yeah, I don't think so. 1034 00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit about the defense. I 1035 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: have been a defender of the defense, I feel like 1036 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: all year, right where I said, I've said on several occasions, 1037 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: like against Minnesota for example, like, at some point in time, 1038 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: the offense to score some points, right, and this game 1039 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: technically falls into that category of the offense only scored 1040 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: what ten points, right because the defense scored seven of them? Sorry? Sorry, 1041 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: seventeen points right? Yeah, because the defense scored seven of them. 1042 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: So at some point in time, the offense needs to 1043 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: score more than seventeen points in a game. Mac almost 1044 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: had that trive you were looking for. He almost did. 1045 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: There's only two plays, but he almost had it. So 1046 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: here's the catch. The catch is that this offense, we 1047 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: can all agree, is not capable of scoring more points, right, 1048 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: And when the offense puts the defense or the defense 1049 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: and you know the team is in the situation where 1050 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: it's twenty four or seventeen with two minutes ago, the 1051 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 1: defense has got to close that game out like that's 1052 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: that's they're the backbone of the team, right, like they're 1053 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: the strength of the team. So this time it bugged 1054 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 1: me that they didn't close it out. And I think 1055 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that stands out on film about it 1056 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: is that I mentioned it earlier. They got really vanilla 1057 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 1: with the play calls late in this game. I think 1058 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: this is a big issue that teams are having across 1059 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: the NFL this year in these two minute situations. In 1060 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,919 Speaker 1: some cases it's like forty seconds that teams are going 1061 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: down the field and scoring right to tie the game 1062 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: or to win the game. I think the biggest issue 1063 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: that teams have is that they're so petrified of giving 1064 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 1: it all up in one play that they that they 1065 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: basically go into a pre event right and it's not 1066 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 1: full on like eight guys like it has been at times. 1067 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't for the Patriots, like they are a little 1068 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: bit more aggressive than that. But you know, you have 1069 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: fourth and ten and you run like a mug. Look 1070 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 1: at the Raiders block it easily, and then Marcus Jones 1071 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,479 Speaker 1: is eleven yards off the line is scrimmaging on fourth 1072 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 1: and ten, right, like, these are the types of things 1073 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: that are what are we doing? They ran the scene 1074 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: play up up the scene that gained twenty. That was 1075 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: the play that's set up the touchdown play. It's just 1076 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: covered two, right, It's just its zone spot drop covered 1077 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: two with a four man rush like, no blitz, no 1078 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: simulated pressure, nothing, just a four man covered two, basic 1079 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: like day one install type of stuff. And it shredded them. 1080 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: Not they had been aggressive all game, right, they're dropping guys, 1081 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: they're blitzing other guys, they're doing the Judeon thing right, 1082 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: and they're doing all this smoke and mirrors stuff all 1083 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: game long. And then the biggest moment of the game, 1084 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: they went vanilla and and that was worrisome. The other 1085 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: thing that was worrisome, And I sent you the fourth 1086 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: down end zone view. Yeah, some of their guys up 1087 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 1: front need to be better. And when I say some 1088 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: of the guys, I'm mainly pointing at Matthew Judon. Honestly, 1089 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: Matthew Judan and had a couple of opportunities to go 1090 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: one on one with your main Illuminois on that sequence, 1091 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: I think I actually one of them was on a luminore. 1092 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: The other one was on Colton. Miller's a good left tackle, 1093 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: but I don't know if he was gassed, and that's possible. 1094 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,919 Speaker 1: And I guess there's that bigger conversation of while they're 1095 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,919 Speaker 1: on the field so much because the offense can't stay 1096 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 1: on the field, And but you need if you're Jude On, 1097 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: if you're ucha, if you're bar Moore, who I thought, 1098 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 1: actually bar Moore I thought was the most impactful rusher 1099 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: on that series for the Patriots. But those three guys, 1100 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: like you need a sack, Like if you get a 1101 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: sack in that situation and you get them behind, you know, 1102 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: into third and sixteen, right like it's over right, like 1103 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, those are the types of plays that end drives, 1104 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: especially drives that need touchdowns, right, And they couldn't win 1105 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: a one on one. They just couldn't win a one 1106 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: on one. And maybe they were gassed and maybe it 1107 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: was all those things. And then on the last the 1108 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: cold touchdown play, josh Uja wasn't even on the field. 1109 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: They had pulled him off for some reason. So that 1110 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: was also disappointing that when the moment when it rose 1111 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: to that moment and they just needed their pass rushers 1112 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: has been great all year, And is this the one 1113 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: thing that we've always said, I think with this team, 1114 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 1: besides maybe r mondre Stevenson, the best thing about this 1115 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: team is the pass rush, right, the best thing about 1116 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: it is the pass rush. The scheming go vanilla, and 1117 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: the players couldn't didn't go after it, like truly go 1118 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: after it in the one on one situations. And that 1119 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: was disheartening because that was a game that the defense, 1120 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: if it's a good defense, the defense closes that out. Yeah, 1121 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: you don't disagree, disagree with something, I'm just kidd No, 1122 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: but you're You've wanted me to be on this side 1123 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: all year. You're right, like they were one drive away. 1124 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 1: And that's why I said it earlier. Again, I said 1125 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 1: it earlier in the show. Right. Yes, the the play 1126 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the game is inexcusable. Yeah, we 1127 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: really didn't get into Keelan cole catch. There's not much 1128 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: more to say others than it wasn't. But Homer, if 1129 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: they get the what you thought you thought it was kidding, 1130 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. If you get the four points when 1131 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,479 Speaker 1: I say four points, they end up kicking a field 1132 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: goal rights a four point difference, right if you get 1133 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: the seven points instead of the three down on the 1134 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: goal line early in the game. None of that presents itself. 1135 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, that that gets into like the domino effect, right, 1136 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: like the whole game works out different but so so exactly, 1137 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: but it works out differently. Doesn't mean they win, but 1138 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: it means that those situations don't present themselves. So I 1139 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: think the biggest problem that they had in this game, 1140 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: and this game I said this about the Vikings game 1141 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: to a degree too, and and Parillo was was arguing 1142 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: with me about it. This game in particular, the biggest 1143 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 1: problem that they had in this game was that they 1144 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: they were able to they were able to tilt coverage 1145 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 1: towards Davante Adams and take him out, but they lost 1146 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: the other one on one matchups, right, like Darren Waller 1147 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 1: beats Adrian Phillips up the team for a touchdown, Keelan 1148 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Cole beats Marcus Jones for a time. I know it 1149 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 1: might not it shouldn't. Maybe it shouldn't have counted, like 1150 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: I know, okay, you know I was in mac Hall 1151 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Miles Bryant, which I'm surprised that the Raiders kind of 1152 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: figured out very late in that game that none of 1153 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots corners were over five ten. Yeah, it took 1154 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: them way longer to exploit that than it probably, right, 1155 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: So you know, and that on the Mac Collins touchdown 1156 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: on the goal line, they call one double on DeVante Adams, Right, 1157 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: they have two guys on Davante Adams and it's single 1158 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: coverage everywhere else, and then you just have to make 1159 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: a play. So as we're spinning it forward now to 1160 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals and we got ten minutes, I want to 1161 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: wrap it up on the Bengals. That's my biggest concern 1162 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: about this game from a because the defense is going 1163 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: to have to hold them in the twenties for the 1164 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Patriots to have a chance in this game. Like I 1165 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 1: think we can all agree with that. They might even 1166 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: need to set score on defense again in this game. 1167 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: And the biggest how many of their wins this year 1168 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: had they had either a defensive or special team scored 1169 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 1: just a field flipping play. It's up there. It's gonna 1170 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: be every game. It said, maybe Cleveland, Yeah, they scored 1171 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: against Detroit. They had the muff against the Steelers, right, right, 1172 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: we don't have to go through all this, but yeah, yeah, 1173 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: pretty much every game. So with the Bengals, my biggest 1174 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: concern is, Okay, like you know, they had this nice 1175 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: wrinkle for DeVante Adams and they did it was Stefon 1176 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Diggs a little bit too, maybe not enough. It was 1177 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: this three cloud coverage where they have one guy who's 1178 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: basically man to man and press coverage on DeVante Adams, 1179 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: and then they had the safety over the top of 1180 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Davante Adams right right, and it's cover three, but it's 1181 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: just tilted towards Davante Adams, and that was a really 1182 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: effective coverage for them. The issue was is that eventually, 1183 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: after the Raiders had seen it a few times, they 1184 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: started running verticals on the other side of the field 1185 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: and Adams beats or excuse me, Darren Waller beats Adrian 1186 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: Phillips and then Killing Cole beats Marcus Jones. So in 1187 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 1: this matchup, that's Tyler Boyd and t Higgins right like that, 1188 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 1: those two guys are if you're gonna play that cloud coverage, 1189 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: and those two guys are gonna have one on ones. 1190 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 1: If you're gonna play one double and those guys are 1191 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: gonna have one on ones So the question is for 1192 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots in this game, there is it's a formula 1193 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: that has been put out on tape. Against the Bengals, 1194 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: they're not as good against zone. They're not as good 1195 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: against split safety zone in particular, and they have a 1196 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: bad offensive line right there. Their offensive line, it might 1197 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: be better, but it's still not better than it was 1198 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 1: last year. But it's not great. Right, So if you 1199 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: can get the pass rush going again, and if you 1200 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: can play split safety to keep everything in front of you, 1201 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 1: then you have a chance against them. But like you 1202 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: just mentioned, you're gonna have five foot nine Jonathan Jones, 1203 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 1: five foot eight Marcus Jones, and five foot eight Miles 1204 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Bryant against six foot four t Higgins, six foot one 1205 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd and six foot tall Jamar Chase, who plays 1206 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: a lot. He's only like six and a quarter, but 1207 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: he plays a lot bigger than that. These are Higgins 1208 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: and Jamar are probably two of the best catchpoint receivers 1209 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: in the league, right Like, they're fantastic contested catch receivers 1210 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: and burrows an aggressive downfield throwers. So he's just gonna 1211 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: throw it. So I would trust those guys to just 1212 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 1: go up and make the play. Yeah, I'm try I 1213 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: think that the best way. Let's not forget they got 1214 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Hayton hursted tight end too. Yeah. Also, this is the 1215 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Devin Asiasi revenge game. It's okay, Hayton Hursts Okay. I 1216 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing that when you look when you 1217 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: look at this Bengals game is I think it's very 1218 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: similar in the as the Buffalo game, where you're just 1219 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: trying to win a couple of rounds, right, like, if 1220 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: you could win four rounds like and what I mean 1221 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 1: when I mean for us a pint, for us to 1222 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: turnover you know, four or five times when they have possessions, 1223 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 1: then you should be able to keep them in the twenties. 1224 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: But this is not in my mind like they're gonna 1225 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: give up some plays in this game because they just 1226 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: they just there's too many matchups that favor the Bengals offense, 1227 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: especially when you start to account for Jamar Chase in 1228 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: different ways, whether it's doubles or high lows like I 1229 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: describe what the cloud coverage or whatever. There's gonna be 1230 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: a lot of single matchups eventually, and you're gonna have 1231 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: to live with some of that. So for defensively, This 1232 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 1: is all about make them drive the field, don't give up, 1233 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, try not to give up big plays. But 1234 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 1: most importantly, just you have to stay aggressive because something. 1235 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: You need sacks, you need turnovers, because you're gonna have 1236 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 1: to win. You're gonna have to win by split decision. 1237 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: You're not gonna win by knockout, right, Yeah, No, it's 1238 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: you gotta outlast them. And this is one of those 1239 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: games where I talk about you shorten the game, right, 1240 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: limit the number of drives, try to try to win 1241 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: some of those rounds. Like you said, you're gonna need 1242 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: a force turnovers are like, I don't think you can 1243 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: play this game passively. If you're the Patriots defense, you 1244 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 1: need to try to get some turnovers. And then I 1245 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: mean their defense can play too. They've got a very 1246 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: good defense. And the Patriots are gonna have to You 1247 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 1: mentioned the Buffalo game, right, do they have another like 1248 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 1: the Marcus Jones swing pass? Like, do they have another 1249 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: trick up their sleeve for this one, Something that no 1250 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 1: that isn't on tape, something that the other team has 1251 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 1: not seen, something that looks like it. I think you 1252 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 1: need to have that in this game. So when the 1253 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 1: Patriots are on offense and the Bagels are on defense. 1254 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 1: I think it's usually I only have hone in on 1255 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 1: the chess match between the defense and the other team's offense, 1256 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: because I don't trust the Patriots offense to have any 1257 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 1: sort of chess match, right, right, But at the same time, 1258 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 1: let's call it checkers, right, We're playing checkers here on offense. 1259 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: And there is some metrics that favor the Patriots being 1260 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: able to move the ball in this game, And the 1261 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 1: biggest one I would say is that this defense structurally 1262 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 1: is designed to take away big plays. They play a 1263 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 1: lot of split safety, right, especially a lot of cover 1264 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 1: two in quarters, so they're trying to take away the 1265 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: big plays and they're fifth in the league in doing so. 1266 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: They're fifth DVO against deep passes, but they're seventeenth against 1267 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: short passes. So I know it's going to drive people 1268 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 1: absolutely up a wall. But this is another one of 1269 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: those quick game game plans in my mind for the 1270 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Patriots and the Bucks. Until they turned into a turnover 1271 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: slot fest in the second half, they were able to 1272 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: move the ball with a lot of those you know, 1273 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 1: slant flat, you know stick concepts, like all these like 1274 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: quick game style stuff that the Patriots do as well, 1275 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, just run off the coverage with Evans and 1276 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 1: the other receiver on the outside and just thinking dunk. Right. Yeah. 1277 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: The thing about that though, is you then have to 1278 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: execute in the red zone, right. You can't because they've 1279 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: done that at times this year, and they have moved 1280 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the ball like that, and they get to like the 1281 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: thirty yard line and they go super conservative. They run 1282 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: the ball three times, they kick the field goals, like 1283 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: down here, we want points. You're not going to beat 1284 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 1: this Bengals team kicking field goals. The Raiders you might 1285 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,959 Speaker 1: beat kicking field goals. The Cardinals you could beat kicking 1286 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: field goals. You're not gonna beat this Bengals team kicking 1287 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,439 Speaker 1: field goals. Fair point. And the second thing I would say, 1288 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 1: and look, this is another thing. I sound like a 1289 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 1: broken I call for play action every single week and 1290 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 1: they never do it. So right at this point. I 1291 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 1: did this a couple of weeks ago. Remember I said, 1292 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 1: if they do this and this and this, and you 1293 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 1: just rolled your eyes and me, You're like, well, they 1294 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: don't do any of that, right. So last week Brady 1295 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: was ten for fourteen for one hundred and forty five yards. 1296 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 1: Of the play action over ten yards per attempt. Yeah, 1297 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 1: they're six in the league in terms or sixth were 1298 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: so twenty seventh in the league and yards per tempt 1299 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: allowed to play action, they're giving up almost nine yards 1300 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: attempt per play action passed. Yeah. A big reason why 1301 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: is because they play a lot of his own right, 1302 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: So that that's Bill said that earlier this year. Well, 1303 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 1: if you play his own team, then you know whatever, 1304 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 1: So he said play action doesn't work as well against No, 1305 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 1: he said it doesn't work as well against Man because 1306 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 1: in Man, oh yeah, you know, you're right, you just 1307 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: have you guys covering the guys, right, there's run players 1308 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: pass play, right. So this, in theory, should be a 1309 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: game where we see a lot of that quick game 1310 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: stuff and a lot of the you know, Marcus Jones 1311 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,719 Speaker 1: screens or whatever you want to do. Maybe it's Pierre 1312 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: Strong because they're playing Marcus Jones so much on defense, right, 1313 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: and that that sort of package and then play action 1314 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 1: from under center like that should be the game plan. Now, one, 1315 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're they're going to do that 1316 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: right because I mean, let's face it, because they haven't 1317 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,800 Speaker 1: done it all year yet. And secondly, the Bengals got 1318 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 1: to be thinking, that's what the Patriots are gonna do, right, 1319 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: Like they got to know that. So that's the chess 1320 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: match to me is does lou and them a remo? 1321 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 1: And Bill I just butchered his name. I came close though. 1322 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,679 Speaker 1: Bill said it at the podium earlier today that they're 1323 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,680 Speaker 1: not really a game planned defense. They kind of just 1324 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 1: do what they do. So do they just do what 1325 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: they do? And that actually does lend itself to some 1326 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 1: of the things that the Patriots have I wouldn't say 1327 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: done well, but done acceptable right at Or do the 1328 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Bengals say we're just gonna play press man coverage and 1329 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: we know that you guys can't beat us down the field, 1330 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,759 Speaker 1: right like that's but that would be a total departure 1331 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: from what they normally do. But they have in their 1332 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 1: bag and they could always do it right like any 1333 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: team could always do it in the I think they 1334 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: come out I meant offense probably hasn't shown much that 1335 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 1: they feel like they need to give them special treatment, right. 1336 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I think you come out and you do what you 1337 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: do and if they need to adjust, they'll adjust away 1338 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 1: from it, right. But I would think that they're just 1339 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,799 Speaker 1: going to see the typical Bengals defense, and the Bengals 1340 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 1: are again gonna make them beat them, make them be consistent, 1341 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: because the other thing about that dink and dunk one 1342 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 1: penalty and it's all undone right right, So if I'm 1343 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 1: the Bengals, I just do what I do and force 1344 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,680 Speaker 1: them to go down the field mistake free, and force 1345 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 1: them to execute in the red zone. It's probably fair. 1346 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: Season's over. No, no it's not. It ain't over till 1347 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 1: it's over. I'm a firm believer in that, right, and 1348 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm over to the fat ladies say, I wouldn't be 1349 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,759 Speaker 1: surprised they win one of these three. I think Miami's 1350 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 1: a winnable game just because they're coming up here and 1351 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 1: they're not playing great football right now. You know, maybe, uh, Bill, Matt, 1352 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 1: do you have the snow machine back there for the 1353 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: Miami game? You got well, you just missed it. Apparently 1354 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: the next two days it is supposed to be wild 1355 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 1: with the weather. Do you got some some blizzards up 1356 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: your sleeves? You know? Could it's Joe Burrow's first time 1357 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 1: facing Bill Belichick. Maybe he gets some turn the ball 1358 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 1: over a bit, right, Maybe the Bills have everything locked up, 1359 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 1: and it's case keen him in week eighteen, like they 1360 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 1: could maybe sneak a win in here somewhere, but um, 1361 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: it ain't overtilts over. It's a very I said this somewhere. 1362 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,719 Speaker 1: It's a very. It's a we are better than new offense. 1363 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,720 Speaker 1: Like this offense is not super the Bengals, I mean, 1364 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 1: this offense is not super creative, right, Like, it's not 1365 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 1: like a Kyle Shanahan or a Mike McDaniel offense, where 1366 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,519 Speaker 1: like there's dudes running all over the place and there's 1367 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: motion and there's all this crazy creative stuff. This is 1368 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,520 Speaker 1: like we line up, we just execute our basic concepts 1369 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 1: really really well, and we have Joe Burrow and Jamar 1370 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 1: Chase right Like, that's that's the offense. It's it's you know, 1371 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do. We know what we're 1372 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: gonna do, but we're gonna execute it at such a 1373 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: high level it's not gonna matter, right, So, which is 1374 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 1: kind of what the Patriots were for a while there 1375 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 1: with Brady. So in that respect, I think the Patriots 1376 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: will have a pretty good feel for what the Bengals 1377 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,280 Speaker 1: are offensively by Saturday, and obviously it will just come 1378 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: down to the individual. Matt, you got to show up 1379 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 1: and stop it. Yeah, all right, I agree with you. 1380 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: Though season is not over. I think that this game, 1381 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,680 Speaker 1: if they lose this game, then I think I might 1382 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 1: pronounce it dead because I think they need to win 1383 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 1: this one. I think, I mean, I think they it 1384 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 1: would be over. I think mathematically they'd be eliminated if 1385 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: they lose. Well, depending on what else happens, I guess 1386 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 1: I think that there is a chance there is a 1387 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: path to nine and eight getting into the playoffs. Whether 1388 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 1: I can hear the argument that you might not want 1389 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 1: to get into the playoffs. And we did this last week, 1390 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 1: We did this last week now, or two weeks ago, 1391 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,599 Speaker 1: whenever it was. Yeah, but either way, we'll be back 1392 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 1: on the show next week, same time, same place, win 1393 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: or lose or draw, we will be here to talk 1394 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 1: about the end of the season, all the way through 1395 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 1: the end of the season, and then in the offseason 1396 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 1: as well. So keep it right here, Patriots Catch twenty two, 1397 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Alex and I will be back with you guys next week. 1398 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening, and we'll see you then. 1399 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast. 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