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Speaker 1: I think the difference between using an occasional manufacturer's coupon

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Speaker 1: ten dollars off Autocraft Gold with paraframe grid technology. Those coupons, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can do it cheaper. We can do it cheaper,

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Speaker 1: Coupons are coupons a form of programming in terms of

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Speaker 1: New Jersey two thousand five Dodds Ram Keith. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, Sir, how can I help um? So

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Speaker 1: So then let's let's let's unplug the e g R.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back of the car Doctor. Here at a five

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, like I said, the three forty, if

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Speaker 1: you can't scope it, um, if you don't have that capacity,

431
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: you know, a cam or a crank can cause that

432
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: three forty. Basically, it's seeing that the cam and the

433
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: crank aren't synchronized together. Think of the bicycle with the sprockets,

434
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: and as as the sprockets go around, they have to

435
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: line up to an index market time, all of a sudden,

436
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: somebody hiccup there missed a step or the chain fell off. Literally. Uh,

437
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: really that's that's a race there to which one? UM,

438
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if race is the

439
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: right word. Keith. I think it's a UM. I think

440
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: it's an indicator that it can be one or the other. UM.

441
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: If if if I was gonna be a betting man

442
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: and taken, you know, again playing the averages, I would

443
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: tell you that more often than not, it's a crank

444
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: position fault, all right. You know, there comes a time

445
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: and I get a lot of aggravation about this, but

446
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: there comes a time where based on age of the

447
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: truck and mileage and you're starting to deal with intermittence.

448
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, we had a we had a vehicle,

449
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: oh not too long ago. It was a forty dollar

450
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: part and it was an intermittent the car would the

451
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: car would shut off and stop running. And we couldn't

452
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: we we couldn't duplicate it to save our life. And

453
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: we sat down and we started reading some of the

454
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: trend reports we have access to because we have access

455
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: to information on what fails and when, and you know,

456
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's kind of like the CDC,

457
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: those which part of the country is suffering from the flu.

458
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: We know which which part of the industry and what

459
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: vehicles fail more than what what fails on them, And

460
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: we rolled the dice and said, let's try the fourty

461
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: dollar part. It's fixing cars in the eight percentile. You

462
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: know what we fixed. We fixed the car and it

463
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: was a good car. And sometimes you have to do that. Sometimes,

464
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: that's that's part of the business today because I don't

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00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: have to tell you you're dealing with electronics, right, um,

466
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, you know you'll you'll change the whole

467
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: board on the suspect of one component, right, you know.

468
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: It's well unfortunately today also the price to get down

469
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Speaker 1: into a the minutia of tearing something apart and looking

470
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: at every little piece versus the quest of a complete replacement,

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00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: because the labor involved really kind of sticking them up there. Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And as much as I say new means never ever worked,

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00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: uh you know, And I've had it, I've had it

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00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: where I've put a new a new part in and

475
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: it's it replicates the problem and you sit there and

476
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: you scratch your head and then that's a gut call.

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00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: Then that then you take the time to diagnose the

478
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: bad new part, and then you realize that part is bad,

479
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: and then you buy the third new part and then

480
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: that works. But that's just the sign of the times.

481
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: That's because every everything comes from our our newest state, China.

482
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: I've decided that they're they're the latest, they're the latest

483
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: manufacturer that we they're they're our latest manufacturing part of

484
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: this country. So Keith, listen you uh, you've got our number.

485
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: You let us know what happens here. I think you've

486
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: got a couple of layered issues, but I'm confident we've

487
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: got you going in the right direction. And let me

488
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: say thank you for your being a Car Doctor supporter.

489
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: We appreciate listeners out there, and we want to say thanks.

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Speaker 1: Nine zero The Car Doctor is coming back right after this. Well,

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Speaker 1: she got her day star. She's real Find my phone night,

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00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: She's real find my phone night, my phone Welcome back,

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00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: Ronnie and the Car Doctor. Here more information about this

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00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: radio show car Doctor Show dot com, links to tune

495
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Speaker 1: in my heart, iTunes, my email ron at car Doctor

496
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Speaker 1: show dot com, and the phone number here five zero

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00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero the Car Doctor number. Call and

498
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: leave a message. If we're not on the ear fast Harry,

499
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: our executive producer, will call you back in line you

500
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: up for the next time we are. Let's get on

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00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: over to the phone. Let's go talk to Mike Montgomery,

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00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: New York. Some questions and comments about throttle body cleaning. Mike,

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00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: you're on with the car doctor. How can I help? Hey, Ran,

504
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: I saw a YouTube video. Actually it was done by

505
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: Motor Week and the way he did this this is

506
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: UH drive by wire throttle body cleaning. He actually had

507
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: a person sit in the car and a person outside

508
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: under the hood and actually turned the key on and

509
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: UH pushed down in the throttle and cleaned it. But

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00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: they never said anything about throttle reset. I was just

511
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: wanting your opinion about it. Throttle reset, that's a great question.

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00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Like throttle reset is, it varies by manufacturer, and it

513
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: varies widely. I can tell you from experience. We had

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00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: a car I think about two years ago and it

515
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: was the first time I'd run across it. We had

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Speaker 1: a two thousand five Accura um Mat l d m

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Speaker 1: d X. It was an m d X of the

518
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: three five to the throttle body cleaning. Did a throttle

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00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: body cleaning on it, and that's a drive by wire vehicle,

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00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: and I did it the traditional way I do it

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00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: where I don't like. I don't like key on keion

522
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: is okay because you know key on to me or

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00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: keian isn't okay because if something is disconnected, as a

524
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: tip lee is when you're doing the throttle body cleaning

525
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: so many cars, you would you know you're taking the

526
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: airbox out, the mass air flow is disconnected. Sometimes you're

527
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: just connecting wiring harnesses that you sit there with the

528
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 1: key on, engine off to open the throttle plate. By

529
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: putting your foot down, you're gonna set a fault code

530
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: and sometimes that can trigger some other issues and it

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00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: makes the problem bigger in the process more complicated. I

532
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: like to gently just give that plate a nudge. And

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00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, this is the question, like the industry says,

534
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: which way to electrons flow? I kind of like the

535
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: idea of manually opening a throttle body and just gently

536
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: opening it up. I have giant que tips and I'll

537
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: clean the throttle plate with that. But anyway back to

538
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: the accurate. So I had an accurate that needed a

539
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: throttle body cleaning, really filthy, really dirty. Cleaned it just

540
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: the way I've cleaned every other one two days later,

541
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: the car came back with a fault code P zero

542
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: five oh six if I remember right, for throttle angle,

543
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: went through all the charts, went through everything we were

544
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: supposed to do, nothing was mentioned. Did a reset, just

545
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: the way we've been doing it. Found out the scan

546
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: tool wouldn't do the reset properly and had to go

547
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: to another manufacturer. As a matter of fact, I don't

548
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: remember who it was it didn't work, but I remember

549
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: who was. It was Launch that worked. We used the

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00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: Launch scan tool and they allowed us to do a

551
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: proper throttle relearn. And my point is that process didn't

552
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: really occur in in the Honda world until oh three,

553
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: oh four, oh five, and now it's on every car

554
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: up through and I think it's stopped in eleven where

555
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: they're doing away with it and they're they're they're learning

556
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: them on their own. No, I take that back. Even

557
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: on the four teams, I've seen a couple of bulletins

558
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: that reference it. Let's talk about Toyota. If you're talking

559
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: about cleaning the throttle plate on a Toyota, you know

560
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: how you do it. You take the air box out,

561
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: you open the plate with your finger, you wipe it

562
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: out with a rag. You're gingerly, You're still due diligence

563
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: and caution. Put the whole thing back together, disconnect the

564
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: bat re, tie the ends together using a resistant wire.

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00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: However you're gonna do it, hook it all up, and

566
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: drive it away. There's no scan tool needed. So you know,

567
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: for me to answer the question, if if you're asking

568
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: me how to clean the throttle body on your car,

569
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: tell me what kind of tell me what kind of

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00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: car it is, and then we'll have that conversation. What

571
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: kind of what kind of car is it? Well, this

572
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: is a mechanical the two thousand three, But I don't

573
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: have to worry about that, you know, on a Dodge

574
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: the coda, right, if it's mechanical, and and the most

575
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do is disconnect the battery so

576
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: that it relearns its values and resets itself. Um, and

577
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: for everyone out else out there listening, if this is

578
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: a Nissan everything I just said, throw it out the window,

579
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: you know. And if if you don't have manufacturer direct,

580
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: a manufacturer level, if you don't have a Nissan level

581
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: scan tool, nothing in the aftermarket will learn that. All right, Well,

582
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: I take that back. The launch did do to learn

583
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: on it. We actually played my friend. My friend Tim

584
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: brought down the dealer level tool from the local dealership

585
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: and we sat there one day and we started playing

586
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: with some Nissans and we started troubleshooting what what will

587
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: do a reset and what won't. And the launch seems

588
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: to work every time, whereas some of the competitors, the

589
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: red the red scan tool people in the blue and

590
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: gray scan tool people do not. Um so you know

591
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: that being said Nissan, but Nissan is a very difficult

592
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: animal to deal with. They want some very very specific

593
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: things done in terms of reset, in terms of how

594
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: that throttle body is cleaned, in terms of your Dakota. Yeah,

595
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: the most important thing is, as in any throttle body cleaning,

596
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: just be careful. Don't spray directly into the housing, all right,

597
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: you want to put it on a rag and wipe

598
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: it from the inside. As long as you're on YouTube, Mike,

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00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: go look for me on YouTube. I did all, all right,

600
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: I did because I did a throttle body cleaning demo. Um.

601
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, that throttle body cleaning demo for everybody

602
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: out there, for all the old time listeners to the

603
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Car Doctor. That's actually the throttle body off the old

604
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Volvo from ten years ago. Then we finally got rid

605
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: of it, had three hundred thousand miles on it, or

606
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: whatever the heck it was, I forgot, but that was

607
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: what I used for my demonstration piece. And that was

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00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: a mechanical, a purely mechanical throttle body. And as I

609
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: said there and as I say now, the most important

610
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: thing is to not get excessive chemical on the shaft.

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00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: You'll damage the seals and and and cause issues later on.

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00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: All right, sir, all right, great ron, thank you. You're

613
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: very welcome. Mike, thanks for being there, and we appreciate

614
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: having you as a listener as well as all our listeners.

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00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: Zero nine zero The car Doctor is coming back. Don't

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00:33:41,760 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: go away. Welcome back. Any of the car Doctor here.

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00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Zero nine nine zero zero seven Car Doctor number. Give

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00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: us a call if we're not on the air, fast Harry,

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Speaker 1: we'll call you back in line. You up for where

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00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: we are, hey, quick, quick car Doctor meeting Tony. All right,

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Speaker 1: bus listen um uh March no March nineteen, Uh coming up.

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00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know March nineteenth, this

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Speaker 1: is your official company notice. On March nineteen, we're gonna

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00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: be on the road. Yeah, Tom already told you. Okay,

625
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: Gee was how come I wasn't at that meeting? Oh well,

626
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: that's true. I left. I must have left the room

627
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: and no. But anyway, for everybody else's benefit, we're gonna

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00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: be at the meadow Lands Exposition Center in Secaucus, New Jersey, Northeast, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Northeast trade show that we go to. Ever you,

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00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna doing a live broadcast Saturday, March nineteen, between

631
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: the hours of two and four pm. We're gonna be

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00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: walking the floor before the show, and we look forward

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00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: to seeing everybody out there if you're in the New

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00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: York City area that weekend March eighth, nineteenth, and twentie

635
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: we will be there on the nineteenth and doing the

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00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: radio show and meet and greet and kissing the babies

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: and shaking hands and saying Lord everybody. So we're looking

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00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: forward to it, just a grand old time. And Tony,

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00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: as always, because you're such you are the best board

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00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: operator in the business. I'm gonna take you out for

641
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: a steak dinner afterwards. Ill for the compliment. So who's

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Speaker 1: that guy behind you? But he wants to go now

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Speaker 1: to Tom. Tom wants to go all right, and maybe

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Speaker 1: and we guess we'll take Fast Harry too, So we'll

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Speaker 1: take Fast Harry. So we'll go out to eat afterwards.

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Speaker 1: But for everybody else, um, just to let everybody else

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Speaker 1: know that's where we're gonna be. Hey, speaking of fans

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Speaker 1: from far away, I have a note here. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: let me see if I can find it now from

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Speaker 1: May we'll have to do this next hour from a

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Speaker 1: gentleman in Australia. I couldn't believe this email when I

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Speaker 1: saw it, but um uh yeah, here it is. I

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Speaker 1: probably don't have time to finish this. Hey, ron I

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Speaker 1: listening from Australia on Sunday nights. I love the show

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Speaker 1: and the way you go about describing the issues. I

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Speaker 1: like to ask you about these new decarbonizing machines to

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Speaker 1: use a negatively charged cleaning solution under pressure, which claimed

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Speaker 1: they can clean combustion chambers and do so, but they

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Speaker 1: did the show it to be a very big porky pot.

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Speaker 1: I've gotta give this email more time so you know

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about this next hour. Um in

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Speaker 1: another show. But the kind of interesting that we have

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Speaker 1: listeners in Australia, I know, We have listeners in London, Spain, Ireland,

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, Australia, The Car Doctor International. I'm running any

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Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor, thinking prikey. Now I'll have to

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Speaker 1: do it straight. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See

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