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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calvci joins me.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we rolled out the red carpet for Paul.

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Speaker 1: It's the annual Year In Awards show, six categories, voted

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Speaker 1: on by our panel of experts. Maybe you agree, maybe

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Speaker 1: you disagree. In any case, let's not waste any more time.

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Speaker 1: Raise the curtain. We've got hardware to hand out. It's

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode six thirty seven, and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. Hitting the backfield and down

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Speaker 1: he goes for a loss. J J. Watt nailed it.

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Speaker 1: half of five. Yes, in again so for Harry Magic. Whoa,

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Speaker 1: here's Craig Grielou. By the way, Paul, before we get

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Speaker 1: started here, have you head a chance to meet the

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Speaker 1: new guy Yets? I passed by him in the hallway.

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Speaker 1: Does that qualify as a meeting? Probably not, so my

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Speaker 1: answer would be no. At least you've been closer than

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Speaker 1: I have. I did see him in a conference room

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Speaker 1: and otherwise engaged in what is most important for him

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Speaker 1: right now, and that is one looking at the roster

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Speaker 1: and fielding a head coach. But no, I have not

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Speaker 1: had a chance to shake hands and put a name

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Speaker 1: to a face with new Cardinals general manager Monte Austin Ford.

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Speaker 1: But I came away and pressed with his press conference

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Although I did ask him a question during

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Speaker 1: the presser, and that's better than I did. Nice to

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Speaker 1: meet you, of course, he said that everybody asking a question,

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Speaker 1: so very engaging of him. I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: good tactic in game plan, the whole meet and greet

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Speaker 1: at the press conference. So you know, if your qualification

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Speaker 1: again is no. All right. So we're in the same

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Speaker 1: boat in that area. I like it. Misery loves company,

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Speaker 1: as they like to say here. All right, so that

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Speaker 1: is not what we are joining everyone here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two persons to buy Hunday, proud partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. No this, We'll have plenty of time to

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Speaker 1: dissect the offseason ahead, but just maybe one last look

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Speaker 1: back at twenty twenty two if you can bear with

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Speaker 1: us here, everyone but we do it each and every year.

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Speaker 1: The year end awards six categories, six winners. We've got

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Speaker 1: twenty seven member panel voting. We don't rely on the Academy.

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Speaker 1: There's no Hollywood Foreign Press, but twenty seven individuals that

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Speaker 1: make up the asy Cardinals dot com content team. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's really grown over the Yes, I remember it was

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Speaker 1: more like seven. Now it's twenty seven. Doesn't matter. Every

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Speaker 1: year there's debate. Dare I say, controversy, outrage? So let

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Speaker 1: the reindeer games begin here, because I will say this. Agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to be a contrarian, but not a

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Speaker 1: single one of my votes lines up with any of

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Speaker 1: the winners, not a single one. I am glad you

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Speaker 1: noticed that, because I was going to leave that till

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Speaker 1: the end, but you beat me to it. Yes, none

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Speaker 1: Now you did. I'm not saying your selections were wrong,

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Speaker 1: they just didn't match up with most everyone else in

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Speaker 1: group think from yours truly. Now, whether I'm the exception,

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Speaker 1: But I'm here. I'm ready to debate why this entire

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Speaker 1: bring it, Let's go here. That is the headline here,

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Speaker 1: Paul in the minority in every category. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: first begin with Offensive Player of the Year. And before

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Speaker 1: But as we documented at the start of the show, Paul,

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Speaker 1: looking at Newcomer of the Year and based off of

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Speaker 1: that was the first of two two point conversions, and

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Speaker 1: you don't win the game unless you have Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 1: And as few wins that this team had, that win

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Speaker 1: became very important, and it did for a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time seemed like, Okay, after losing Week one, you

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Speaker 1: win week two, you get some momentum. Obviously we know

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Speaker 1: it didn't transpire that way, but just the way that

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Speaker 1: game finished and then going into overtime a game this

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Speaker 1: Cardinals team had no business winning whatsoever. But yeah, Kyle

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Speaker 1: the Murray got him into overtime, but it was Byron

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Speaker 1: Murphy and the defense that won the game in overtime.

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Speaker 1: What was the yardage on Byron Murphy's walk off? What

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Speaker 1: was it? Again? Was it fifty eight yards? Was that

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Speaker 1: the I believe that was somewhere more than fifty yards? Correct?

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Speaker 1: He was I'm just gonna say, as I try and

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Speaker 1: see if I can find it here on the fly.

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Speaker 1: I have all these stinking notes from the year, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I take the time to put the notes in,

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Speaker 1: and it'd be great if I could find him. Here

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Speaker 1: we go Byron Murphy's walk off fumble return for touchdown,

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Speaker 1: the longest overtime fumble return for touchdown in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: fifty nine yards. Do you know what next gens Stats

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Speaker 1: said about Kyler Murray's two point conversion run. It covered

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Speaker 1: eighty five yards. I know that's not official, but that's

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Speaker 1: in terms of ground covered sideline to sideline, and now

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Speaker 1: we ended up from one side of the field to

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Speaker 1: the other side of the field and eventually into the

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Speaker 1: end zone. So just in terms of the actual yardage covered,

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Speaker 1: guess what, Kyler Murray's shorter, at least based on the

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Speaker 1: box score, two point conversion run, was much longer than

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Speaker 1: buyer Murphy's game ending fumble return. True, but you realize

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Speaker 1: that two point plays do not show up in the

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Speaker 1: stat sheet. You don't get yards for it. You don't

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Speaker 1: get receiving yards, you don't get rushing yards, you don't

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Speaker 1: get scoring plays out of it. It's just a play.

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Speaker 1: It's just it. It's the PA criminals. You don't get

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Speaker 1: the two yards or in this case, the eighty five yards.

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Speaker 1: It's it counts on the scoreboard, but it doesn't count

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Speaker 1: on the box score. Correct. How does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: It's just basically a team stat. I don't get that.

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Speaker 1: I don't that should be amended. Why why? Why? Why

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Speaker 1: would that somehow be outside the purview of a player's

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Speaker 1: individual stats. I don't get it. So, if you're a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you've got passing, you'd put it in passing yards, passing,

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Speaker 1: the times, passing completions, so you'd have touchdowns, interceptions, and

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Speaker 1: two plays you scored a touchdown, So thereby you've earned

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Speaker 1: the right for the two point conversion. So yes, if

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Speaker 1: the touchdown counts in terms of your ritage and your stats,

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Speaker 1: why not the two point conversion? I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's a no compreendo. It might be something

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Speaker 1: we have to look up and fight for. You know what,

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Speaker 1: you're good friend. Roger Goodell, the commissioner National Football League

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Speaker 1: is coming to town in a matter of weeks. Paul's right,

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Speaker 1: you two are on a first name basis with one another. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's see it's two times we've interviewed him in the

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Speaker 1: last calendar year. It could be three. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put that in a suggestion box if

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Speaker 1: we do see Rodge super Bowl Week as we speak

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover two presented by Hunday Proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. You have a better relationship with

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Speaker 1: the commissioner in the National Football League than you do

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Speaker 1: with the general manager of the Arizona Cardinals, at least

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Speaker 1: as we speak here in January. No, you know what,

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Speaker 1: they do have one thing in common. Neither one of

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Speaker 1: them knows my name. Put it that way, I might

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Speaker 1: call him rog and I might contend that we're on

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Speaker 1: a first name basis. He has no idea who I am. Still,

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Speaker 1: despite the Factor in viewed him twice, although the first

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Speaker 1: time he interviewed him, he did actually like the poly

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Speaker 1: Piskin Moniker and he did call that. He did call it,

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Speaker 1: refer to me as Polypiskin over the second half of

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Speaker 1: the Q and A. But then when I saw in

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Speaker 1: Mexico City, no idea who I was. Work on that. Yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: Nan does like eight hundred interviews per month. Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: is just right around the corner here at State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 1: All right, two more categories to get to here on

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Speaker 1: our Cardinals Awards for twenty twenty two, and this is

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Speaker 1: I think this is where you can have some fun

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Speaker 1: as far as selections beyond the box score player because

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Speaker 1: it leaves it up to interpretation beyond the box score,

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Speaker 1: and this is kind of where I think most people go.

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Speaker 1: When you don't have the stats to back up your

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Speaker 1: offense or defensive player, you look for someone else, whether

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Speaker 1: that's a defensive player along the defensive line or in

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Speaker 1: this case the offense the line. Because Calvin Beecham received

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Speaker 1: thirteen of the twenty seven votes, Buddha Baker got four,

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Speaker 1: Zaven Collins also got four. There were some votes for

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen, zach Ertz, and Billy Price as well, so

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Speaker 1: a number of different selections. But as we keep chronicling here,

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Speaker 1: none of the selections that Paul chose turned out to

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Speaker 1: be the winner. But you did. In this case, you

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Speaker 1: chose who Zaven Collins was my beyond the box score

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year. This wasn't a slam dunk, but

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Speaker 1: after much thought, maybe I overthought it in hindsight. In fact, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: part of me wishes I would have voted for Andy Lee.

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Speaker 1: Just the steadying presence of Andy Lee. How many times

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals punt this year actually don't answer that.

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Speaker 1: The fact that Andy Lee had a money fake punt

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Speaker 1: conversion pass on the money with that thing right too,

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Speaker 1: and that was a conversion. The fact that he might

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Speaker 1: have been the most valuable Cardinal on special teams the

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Speaker 1: last couple of games, just handling a lot of arrants,

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Speaker 1: snaps and holding for Matt Prader. In some ways, I

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Speaker 1: wish I would have voted for Andy Lee. But the

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Speaker 1: reason I want was Zaven Collins was because he started

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Speaker 1: every game until the season finale, So he was almost

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Speaker 1: a third player to play every single game along with

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Speaker 1: what JJ Watt and Kelvin Beacham were those of the two,

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Speaker 1: those were the those were the two right, and so

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Speaker 1: he was almost number three. He didn't plan on calling

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Speaker 1: the defense least. I'm sorry, Jalen Thompson. Jalen Thompson, that's right.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Was JJ Watt this week one? He did?

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Speaker 1: That's right, So as Jalen Thompson and Kelvin Beacham. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I should have known that because those were our two

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Speaker 1: interviews in the season finale at San Francisco. But as

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Speaker 1: for Zamon Collins, remember he wasn't the guy coming out

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Speaker 1: of camp with the green dot. It was Isaiah Simmons,

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Speaker 1: and that season debut got sideways defensively right away. Chiefs

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Speaker 1: came out and they scored touchdowns on their first three possessions,

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Speaker 1: and at that point forward, the Cardinals made a change

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Speaker 1: during the game and it last of the rest of

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Speaker 1: the year, and it was Zaven Collins, so he had

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Speaker 1: to call that defense. And look, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: had a bigger challenge this season than trying to replace

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Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks, not necessarily Jordan Hicks the player, but the

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Speaker 1: football IQ and just getting that defense set and reacting

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Speaker 1: to what an offense does. It's not only the pre snaps,

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Speaker 1: it's adjusting as they're snapping it, making those calls, you know, reading, reacting,

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Speaker 1: getting everyone aligne. So there was a lot on the

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Speaker 1: play to Zavan Collins, and there were some ups, there

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Speaker 1: were some downs. But I'd love to know, if you

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Speaker 1: got advanced Joseph in the trust treat just how much

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Speaker 1: Zaven Collins grew over the course of the year. And evolved,

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Speaker 1: maybe the most improved Cardinal player from last year to

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Speaker 1: this year. And you talk about not seeing playing time

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Speaker 1: last season two, not only seen playing time, but starting

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Speaker 1: and having that green dot being that quarterback of the defense,

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Speaker 1: Zavan Collins. Maybe we need to add a most improved

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Speaker 1: player category because what you talked about earlier with Calvin

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Speaker 1: Beecham is what a lot of people and myself included,

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Speaker 1: went with, is because, yeah, he was the steady presence

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Speaker 1: on offense, the only player on offense to start all

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Speaker 1: seventeen games. He was the only healthy offensive lineman for

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Speaker 1: all seventeen games. And I'll argue that there were several

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Speaker 1: games he was not completely healthy, but he was going

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Speaker 1: to make sure he was going to be on that

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Speaker 1: football field. And then you talk about what he did

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Speaker 1: off the field addressing the media when we needed someone

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Speaker 1: to speak, whether that was something that happened on the

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Speaker 1: field or the number of off the field distractions I e.

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Speaker 1: Sean Coogler, it was Calvin Beacham standing in front of

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Speaker 1: his locker, addressing every single question that can't be measured

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Speaker 1: and again goes beyond the box score. So that's why

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Speaker 1: a lot of people went with Kelvin Beecham as that

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Speaker 1: particular player this season. And you know what, it's a

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Speaker 1: great point. When you talk about beyond the box score,

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Speaker 1: you're obviously talking about all those other things off the field.

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Speaker 1: And there was that week after Sean Kugler was dismissed

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Speaker 1: from the team, and the locker room was empty, and

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Speaker 1: no one said anything until the very end of the

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Speaker 1: media open session, and in walk Kelvin Beacham, and he

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Speaker 1: addressed the entire media contention in front of his locker

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Speaker 1: and did it with poise and a plum And so, yes,

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Speaker 1: those are the sort of things that I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get why those people voted for Kelvin Beecham because

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Speaker 1: of all that. And I tell you that Denver game

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Speaker 1: where where he got hit from behind on the same

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Speaker 1: play where Colt McCoy suffered the concussion, Kelvin Beecham got

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Speaker 1: rolled up on from behind something fierce and he was

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Speaker 1: in a lot of pain on that sideline and he

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in that tent and it

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00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: was a knee and an ankle from the same play,

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Speaker 1: and yet there he was starting the next game. And

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Speaker 1: that's I can't tell you how much more respect he

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Speaker 1: earned from everybody in that locker room. Really surprised that

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Speaker 1: he did play those final games because at the age

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Speaker 1: of thirty three, and yeah, he does, I think want

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Speaker 1: to keep playing. Whether he does, it's a decision. He

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Speaker 1: and his family will have to make love to see

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Speaker 1: him back here, whether the Arizona Cardinals. But then that

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00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: becomes a question of war. What do you do with

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones, which is another conversation for later this offseason,

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Speaker 1: but certainly someone that you can count on, and you

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Speaker 1: need someone that you can count on on that offensive

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Speaker 1: line when you're talking about Kelvin Beacham is not always

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Speaker 1: the most talented five players, but who are you going

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Speaker 1: to have every single week to work on that cohesion,

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Speaker 1: in that chemistry. Kelvin Beacham the only one that you

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Speaker 1: can say that about. And the fact that Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: and Hard Knocks called him old man beach I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, he's thirty three, you know, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: old man, he's thirty three. But he has an affinity

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Speaker 1: with all the guys in there, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the guys have a lot of respect for Kelvin Beacham.

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Speaker 1: Everything you just cited, plus his prowess in the business sector.

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Speaker 1: If you believe some of the people around him, he's

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00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: actually made more money already off the field with his

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00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: business endemors and his business acumen than he has playing football,

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Speaker 1: which is saying something. So as Wolf and I used

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: to joke on the Big Red Rage all year long,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what office he's running for. I don't

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Speaker 1: care who's running against him. I don't care what party

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Speaker 1: he's affiliated with. I'm voting for Calvin Beecham. If he's

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Speaker 1: ever running for office as a politician is sometime in

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Speaker 1: the future. I echo that. By the way, I was

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Speaker 1: able to look it up. Andy Lee punted the ball

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Speaker 1: sixty seven times this season and he has a eighty

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Speaker 1: three point three quarterback rating based off is one completion

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Speaker 1: earlier in the season. So if you're looking for again

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Speaker 1: and another one of those players that is an unrestricted

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00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: free agent that new general manager Mondy Austin Ford is

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Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out, all right, do we keep

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Speaker 1: or do we go after and Andy Lee or do

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Speaker 1: we go younger at that position. When the season started,

642
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: there were two forty year olds in the NFL, Tom

643
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: Brady and Andy Lee. By the time the season ended.

644
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: There were four. Jason Peters was the third, and I

645
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: can't remember the fourth. But it's exclusive company. It's a

646
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: select group of forty year olds in the NFL. We

647
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: would we would be a part of that group forty

648
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: year olds in the National Football League. We just we

649
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: just don't he lay the game easy, agree. I mean,

650
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: there's a long way when you got to go across

651
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: that white stripe onto the field. That is a whole

652
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: different dimension out there. Last category here on Cardinals Cover two,

653
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, it

654
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: is most Valuable Cardinal. This was a two horse race,

655
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: if you will, Buddha Baker and jj Watt. Buddha wins

656
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: with twenty of the twenty seven votes. Jj Watt finished

657
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: second with six. But again we go back to our

658
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: conversation earlier here and all right, I don't like putting

659
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: the same player in multiple categories, so I kind of

660
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: spread it around. That's just something that I do. But

661
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: when we talk about most valuable for me, it's Buddha Baker. Yes,

662
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: on the field, leading the team and tackles, but it's

663
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: the heart and soul, not just to the defense. But

664
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: the entire team, and we saw that behind the scenes,

665
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: his emotional speeches, passionate speeches that Hard Knocks caught this season.

666
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: So for me, Buddha Baker the most valuable player on

667
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: and off the field, and I get it. And you

668
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: know what, maybe the single most poignant moment in Hard

669
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: Knocks was to Baker after the Eagles loss, after yet

670
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: another home loss, and just the angst in his voice

671
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: and on his face, just the utter frustration and him venting.

672
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, we do the post game radio interviews down

673
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: from the locker room, and you can't see into the

674
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: locker room, but you can hear, and that was it

675
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: was audible that that reaction from Buddha Baker, and so

676
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: I wondered how long it would be before that would

677
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: make the final cut and get into Hard Knocks. And

678
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: it did the very next week. So we all saw

679
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: it for ourselves. And you see how much football means

680
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: to Buddha Baker When he said it hurts to lose

681
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: it home to lose again, I mean he meant it.

682
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: That wasn't for the cameras, that that was one sincere

683
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: and genuine I thought that the other guy who single

684
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: handedly saved hard Knocks in the final month of the season, though,

685
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: was the guy who got my vote for most value cardinal,

686
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: and that's jj Watt. He reached performance incentives in his

687
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: contract for all those sacks as he got to double digits.

688
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: I thought HBO and NFL Films should have given him

689
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: a performance incentive for saving hard knocks. Honestly, they should

690
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: have given him a check for how much they featured him,

691
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: and he saved the key star of everyone down the

692
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: stretch in that series. But between his Pro Bowl caliber

693
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: play and I thought he was right there between the

694
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Penning retirement, between the elite brand a leadership that we

695
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: saw and it wasn't just here or there, it was constant.

696
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: It was J. J. Watt as a constant team leader

697
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: and really being relied upon to deliver the message. And

698
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: whereas Buddha Baker's the heartbeat of the team, I thought

699
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: JJ Watt was the conscience of the team. And you

700
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: saw it on the field before games, the way he

701
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: would rally guys. You saw him on the sideline, you know.

702
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: So just for me, you know, maybe it's kind of

703
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: a career achievement award in some ways, the MVP, but

704
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: he was such a good gets what we call him

705
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: the media business when we get a good interview. He

706
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: was a good get for the Arizona Cardinals in two

707
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: twenty one, two twenty two. I know they paid him

708
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money, and honestly, I never thought I'd

709
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: say this when they signed him, but he earned every penny,

710
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, he really did. Despite missing so much of

711
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: two twenty one. Man, he came back with a vengeance

712
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: this year, and that's why I gave him the MVP.

713
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: We questioned where this team would be and where it

714
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: would go based on the effort each week, because this

715
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: season got sideways. But you never questioned the effort that

716
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: was out on that football field. And I think it's

717
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: a direct reflection of JJ Watt and Buddha Baker because

718
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: they led by example, they voiced what they wanted to see.

719
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: And if either one of those two either not on

720
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: the field or not on the team, then yeah, four

721
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: and thirteen could have very easily maybe been the same record,

722
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: just not looked like it did, especially down the stretch.

723
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: Can you put a value on the sort of example

724
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: he was for Zach Allen, my j Sanders, Cam Thomas.

725
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: These are building blocks part of the foundation of that

726
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: defense going forward and for them to actually see J. J.

727
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: Watt and see the work he put in in the offseason,

728
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: that stuff that's invaluable in the development. Or an interview

729
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: with an Kwon Boldman and he was talking about, look,

730
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: if there's one or two guys in the locker room

731
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: who aren't upholding the standard, and they're veteran guys, you

732
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: don't realize how much that rubs off on younger guys.

733
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: So conversely, if you can get a good example of

734
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: how to go about the profession, you know, that was

735
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: JJ Watt And I think you know, look, Zach Allen

736
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: is a great player, But I'd love to know just

737
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: how much of Zach Allen's evolution here in year four

738
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: and his great season was a byproduct of just JJ

739
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: Watt rubbing off on ninety four. By the way, if

740
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: he had received the most Valuable Cardinal award that you

741
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: gave him, Paul, I'm sure he would put it right

742
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: on that mantel with Walter Payton NFL Man of the

743
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: Year and soon to be that Hall of Fame bust

744
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: as well. Actually part I put her right next to

745
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: the stuffed badger, the taxidermot Badger, and my vote for

746
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: MVP would be on the same shelf somewhere in his basement.

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00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: Real quick before we close up shop here on Cardinals

748
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hunday, partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

749
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: No more football for the Cardinals, but divisional play continues

750
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: this weekend. Four games total. Anything stand out to you

751
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: or having your eye on one or more of the games.

752
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: Obviously within the NFC West, you're looking at the forty

753
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: nine Ers Seahawks no longer involved, but at least for

754
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: two Bay Area kids. And I'll say that because the

755
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Cowboys brings back memories to at

756
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: least for me, going all the way back to nineteen

757
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: eighty one and that NFC Championship game and the catch

758
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: Joe Montana to Dwight Clark. But found it interesting Cowboys

759
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: and forty meeting for the ninth time in the postseason.

760
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: That is tied for the most all time playoff matchups

761
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: along with the Cowboys, Rams and forty nine Ers Packers.

762
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, and we've seen a lot of forty

763
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: nine Ers Packers in recent history, no question about that.

764
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You know, maybe it's maybe it's

765
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: because you know, going back all those years, but to

766
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: see Niners Cowboys in the playoffs. But here's the other thing.

767
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Can brock Purty keep it up? The twenty seventeen Arizona

768
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: Cardinals high school Player of the Year, Brock Purty, can

769
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: he really keep it up? Because guess what at Seattle defense?

770
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, what were they doing with some of

771
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: those cover zeros? And it just it was an unsound defense.

772
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Too many guys were too wide open, too often. It

773
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: was too easy for the forty nine ers against Seattle.

774
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be that way against Dallas's defense.

775
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: I want to see Brock Purty against Michael Parsons, the

776
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: closest thing to LT we've seen in a long time.

777
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: It is just crazy, the way they deploy him all

778
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: over the defensive front. His ability to get to the quarterback.

779
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: Even against Tristan Worse's an all pro right tackle. He

780
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: made Worse look stupid a couple of times. Michael Parsons

781
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: is a fun watch. I want to see him against

782
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: that Niners offense. What Kyle Shannan's gonna do. But I'm

783
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: also curious how legit is Dallas. Tampa looks so bad.

784
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean, how much of that big win by the

785
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys was Tampa looking horrendous? And how much of it

786
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: is a Cowboys team that is trying to do something

787
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: they haven't done since the early nineties, and that is

788
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: get to an NFC championship game. I just want to

789
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: talk about to get out of the division, all right.

790
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't done that and forever, so to

791
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: me that is the most intriguing. But then, Daniel Jones,

792
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: if you want to stay in the NFC, I mean,

793
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: how many people you know, because we all know, look,

794
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: you know the recency bias, how many people right now

795
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: if you had to pick between Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones,

796
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: the two top quarterbacks in the twenty nineteen draft, how

797
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: many people would go with Daniel Jones based on what

798
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: you just saw and the fact that Brian Dable ran

799
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: him seventeen times. I mean they were using him like

800
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: a running back. He was getting hit like a running

801
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: back in that game. I don't know what everyone talks

802
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, what sort of longevity he's gonna have,

803
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: but the way they were deploying Daniel Jones. And then

804
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: I found it interesting after the game when they asked

805
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Brian Dable to assess his play. He was reticent to

806
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: really heap too much praise on Daniel Jones, who set

807
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: some historical record by throwing for more than three hundred

808
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: rushing for more than seventy five. The only other quarterbacks

809
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: to do that in NFL playoff history Steve Young and

810
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and Dabele was really reserved in his praise.

811
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I thought for Daniel Jones, now, obviously he has a

812
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: pending contract negotiation. Maybe he didn't want that quote to

813
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: be used against him in a couple of months around

814
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: the bargaining table. But you know, I'm really intrigued on

815
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: what is essentially the same team the New York Giants. Yes,

816
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: they add a cave on Thibodeaux and he was very

817
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: good in that game, But that to me shows you

818
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: what coaching can do. As bad as the Giants were

819
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: under Joe Judge and his good and sound as they

820
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: are now under a Brian Dable, I think that gives

821
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: you hope for the Arizona Cardinals. Once you get rid

822
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: of the self inflicted and all of a sudden you're

823
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: detail oriented again. When I watched the Giants, I see

824
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: the upside. What is could be a best case scenario

825
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals two twenty three, first time head coach

826
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: with a quarterback, a young quarterback, and has the Giants

827
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: going into Philadelphia on Saturday. You got another first I

828
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't say first year with the Jacksonville Jaguars, but not

829
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: a first time head coach with Doug Peterson has done

830
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence, who, by the way, this Peterson does

831
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 1: not like this stat, but the stat that's been making

832
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: the rounds this week, Lawrence is forty one and oh

833
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: on Saturdays in his playing career, going back to high

834
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: school and then obviously during his time at Clemson, and

835
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: that Jaguars Chiefs game is the first of the four

836
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: games Saturday at two thirty arazon a time, so forty

837
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: one and that was brought up to Doug Peterson and

838
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: he wanted no parts of that information. Okay, So if

839
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: you want to go with a stat like that, I

840
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: don't know what it is exactly, but Andy Reid's track

841
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: record are coming off a bye is stellar. I mean

842
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: it is all time in terms of success. And I

843
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: just I look at Kansas City and I look at

844
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: what Patrick Mahomes is doing I don't think Jacksonville is now.

845
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: They have a decent pass rush, obviously with their two

846
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: edge guys, but I don't see Jacksonville being able to

847
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: hang with Kansas City more than beyond the second quarter.

848
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: Based on especially, the Chargers should have blown out to

849
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. So nice story in Jacksonville, but it comes

850
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: to a screeching halt, I think, and what will be

851
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: a lopsided win by Kansas City. The other game that

852
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: we have not touched on, it's a game that we

853
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: were all excited to see on Monday night football. Did

854
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Speaker 1: not get to see it because of what happened with

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Speaker 1: Tamar Hamlin. But the Bengals at the Bills on Sunday afternoon,

856
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Speaker 1: that matchup doesn't scream divisional. That screams championship game. And

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Speaker 1: and that's the game that I think a lot of

858
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Speaker 1: people are pointing to as far as all right, can

859
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Speaker 1: the Bengals get back to the Super Bowl? Can the

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Speaker 1: Bills advance and win a Super Bowl with two very

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks? Is josh Allen Canny protect the football? I

862
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Speaker 1: was reading it the other day that the Buffalo Bills

863
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: have turned the ball over more times than I think

864
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Speaker 1: only two other teams this season, the Texans and Colts.

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Speaker 1: Yet here are the Bills in the Divisional round of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, the Bills were sloppy enough, I think

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Speaker 1: to give you a concern. And I thought the old

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00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: line was a liability. How many times Josh Allen gets

869
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Speaker 1: sacked in that game seven times by that Dolphins defense

870
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Speaker 1: who did not hesitate to dial it up and bring

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Speaker 1: numbers and had a lot of success doing so. Buffalo

872
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball. I think they're one dimensional still

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Speaker 1: on offense. I think those are gonna be liabilities against Cincinnati.

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00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a really close game. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not betting against Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow and the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's something about is Bravado and his ability to do

877
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Speaker 1: what is just enough and necessary to get a win.

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Speaker 1: And for all that, I just think Bills maybe a

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00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: little bit too haughty, as I told Ron Wolfley about

880
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: his Orchard Park guys, a little bit too haughty, and

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00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: it almost costs him against the Dolphins, and I think

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Speaker 1: it does against the Bengals. Here's the schedule again on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars at Chiefs, followed by Giants at Eagles, and then

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Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon Bengals at Bills. The nightcap Cowboys at

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. That's the one that I think television

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Speaker 1: is really looking forward to, considering what the Cowboys and

887
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: Buccaneers did on Monday Night football better than thirty million

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Speaker 1: at its peak. Here's the thing. The Cowboys are on

889
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: a short week and the Niners have the extra day arrest.

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00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: I heard Tony Dungee go off on this that it

891
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: is patently unfair. In Tony Dungee's opinion that even back

892
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: when he was coaching, he used to do some of

893
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: the research on that, and to have a two day

894
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: advantage on a playoff week like the Niners do over

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That so I'm curious how the Cowboys look

896
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: in that game. But to have the less recovery time

897
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: and less preparation time for a Kyle Shanahan offense, that

898
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: is really tough to fit and you better make sure

899
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: that your sound. I'm curious. I hope that game is

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Speaker 1: as close and as competitive as a lot of people think.

901
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: But if the Niners come out there and they just

902
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: look like the more physical team and they're sharper, I

903
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: think a big reason why is this that short week

904
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Speaker 1: Dallas had to deal with and go on the road. Well,

905
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: remember Cardinals and Rams were that Monday night game a

906
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: year ago. The Rams win advance and it can be

907
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: a factor. No one's gonna say it going into that matchup,

908
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: but pay attention to how the Cowboys look on Sunday afternoon. Hey,

909
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: how about two thousand and nine when the Cardinals had

910
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: that epic playoff win in overtime against a young Aaron

911
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: Rodgers and then what happened? They were on the short

912
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: week going in New Orleans the next week. Now, Saints,

913
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Speaker 1: we're a juggernaut. And that was the loudest building I've

914
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: ever been in any sport any game. That playoff lost

915
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Speaker 1: by the Cardinals at the New Orleans Saints, which by

916
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: the way, the Cardinals start off was seven nothing lead

917
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: and then I think the Saints ripped off like thirty

918
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: five unanswered points or whatever it was. But plus the

919
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: Cardinals had some injuries like DRC and there was another

920
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: injury to a cornerback early in that game. But all told,

921
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean the Saints had the rest the Cardinals did not,

922
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: and that was an advantage in that game. It was

923
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: just they were playing at a different energy level the

924
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: Saints in that playoff game back then. Good news is

925
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Speaker 1: I think whether it will not be a factor in

926
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Speaker 1: Santa Clara on Sunday afternoon. Hey, they did a miraculous

927
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Speaker 1: job making that field playable considering it and the sun

928
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Speaker 1: came out because it was a torrential downpour during all

929
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Speaker 1: the play game hits yea in the morning and early

930
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, all of a sudden, the no issues

931
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Speaker 1: with the weather. They're actually lucky it was in Santa

932
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Speaker 1: Clara and not in the city in San Francisco, because

933
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Speaker 1: I think the stat was San Francisco had not seen

934
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Speaker 1: that much rain over a ten day stretch since the

935
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Speaker 1: eighteen seventies. It was like one hundred and fifty years span.

936
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Speaker 1: They had not seen that much rain. That's how historic

937
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: an epic the rainfall has been lately in northern California.

938
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Speaker 1: How was that covering that back then? Paul, that's a

939
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: good one. Hey, I was there for the eighty two

940
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Speaker 1: rains as a San Jose Mercury newspaper boy having a

941
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: drive there. You know, that's that'll teach you some mental toughness, greed,

942
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: let me tell you, you know, as I told Darren Urban,

943
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: I flexed it over one hundred papers and you got

944
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: the route bike going through a driving rain. That winner.

945
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: That'll get you ready for adulthood. Now everyone needs just

946
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: a phone, Nuts goes digital, get your newspaper and all

947
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: your information. So again, it should be a lot of

948
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: fun this weekend. Four games and a chorus, and I

949
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Speaker 1: on what's going on within the NFC West with the

950
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: forty nine ers hosting the Cowboys on Sunday afternoon. By

951
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Speaker 1: the way, all the information as far as the Cardinals

952
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: Awards for twenty twenty two, but asy cardinals dot com.

953
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: The article is up so you can see how everyone voted,

954
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: not just how Paul chose not to vote for any

955
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Speaker 1: of the winners. Well, and you'll see how everyone got

956
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Speaker 1: quoted except me as well. And I do mean everyone.

957
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: Everyone got quoted in there. I mean we're talking video editors, it,

958
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Speaker 1: middle managers. Everyone got quoted in this article except Paully Pencilneck.

959
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: Gotta be able to outrage what's going on. You have

960
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: to everybody wanted somebody who didn't pick the right guy.

961
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Speaker 1: I wrote a blurb about everyone every category. I mean,

962
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Speaker 1: at least use one of my quotes about one of

963
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: the guys who did win. I mean no, I mean

964
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Speaker 1: I guess eighteen years on the sideline covering this team

965
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety five isn't enough to actually make the

966
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Speaker 1: final edit. Who's responsible for the final edit? Is it

967
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Speaker 1: Darren Urban? I'll raise my hand. Great if I would

968
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Speaker 1: have known that, you know, I've never would have shown

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00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: up for this podcast. You know I officially just did

970
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Speaker 1: this podcast under protest. Well, it's a good way to

971
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Speaker 1: end this podcast here under protests Paully Minority. On that note,

972
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Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hunday, partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer, Joe Mama

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Speaker 1: Hundre for Paul Calvc. I'm greg Ria Loup. We'll talk

976
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Speaker 1: to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two and

977
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Speaker 1: always get worse