WEBVTT - Que Paso With Lizzo?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born

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<v Speaker 1>and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a body positive advocate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Carolina Bermudez soy Nikaa wins it. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,

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<v Speaker 2>and a worker bee. This is life in Spanglish. You

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<v Speaker 2>know the episode's gonna be good when we begin with girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, wow, this is explosive. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>what is going on, and we must discuss the big

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<v Speaker 2>Lizzo news that's been breaking over the past couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days because there's just so much going on that I

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<v Speaker 2>can hardly wrap my mind around it.

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<v Speaker 1>The same here is like every time I turn around,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a different angle with this Lizzo story.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, So yeah, that is what we were discussing today

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<v Speaker 2>in Life in Spanglish. Now, I will say I have

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<v Speaker 2>been very surprised, just like Honey has, because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>when these I guess allegations came out, well, I was

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait, really like Lizo, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when you hear all of the things that we break

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<v Speaker 2>it down for you, it may come as a surprise

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<v Speaker 2>to you too. But now that more details are coming

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<v Speaker 2>out and more people are talking about, you know, her

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<v Speaker 2>personality and what Lizo was like to work with, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know. I'm just I'm really really

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<v Speaker 2>trying to just like break it all down. But this

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<v Speaker 2>information is coming fast and furious. And it's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>one of my friends that I was talking to about

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<v Speaker 2>it said, you know what, they build you up and

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<v Speaker 2>then they take you down, because you know, Lizo has

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<v Speaker 2>been trying to make it in this industry now for

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<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously over a decade, and she's worked her

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<v Speaker 2>tail off and it seems like she was everywhere these

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<v Speaker 2>past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's managed to do something that's super commendable and

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<v Speaker 1>it exists in a black space, a white space in

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<v Speaker 1>R and B, hip hop and pop. Like what she's

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<v Speaker 1>done here, not only as a woman of color, but

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<v Speaker 1>as a plus woman. I've always been a fan Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>just on the strength of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's talented, that's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And here we are now trying to tear down Lizzo.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. And here's the thing. These are allegations and

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<v Speaker 2>so we are not speaking with authority on any of this,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know clearly this is just a story that's

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<v Speaker 2>breaking now. I was so shocked to wake up this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing that showed up on my Instagram was

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<v Speaker 2>her statement today. So three of Lizzo's former dancers have

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<v Speaker 2>filed a lawsuit against her, her production company, and the

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<v Speaker 2>dance captain that she hired, shir Lean Quickly. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is basically what the whole lawsuit is about. These dancers

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<v Speaker 2>are alleging sexual, religious and racial harassment, disability discrimination, assault,

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<v Speaker 2>and false imprisonment. That one was the one that blew

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<v Speaker 2>me away. I was like, whoa need to norm know

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<v Speaker 2>more about that one?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a lot and I feel like the legal

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<v Speaker 1>terms are kind of like dragging it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are a paralegal, honey, and so I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you have like a lot of knowledge on this

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<v Speaker 2>and you can really help us understand what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with this whole story.

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<v Speaker 1>No, for sure. And you know we got to get

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<v Speaker 1>in the false imprisonment. That's where they caught me out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what do they mean by that? And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we get into it and it's just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>fear of losing your job, like not wanting to do

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<v Speaker 1>certain things because of retaliation. There's a lot here to unpack. Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh yeah, so these dancers are claiming that when they

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<v Speaker 2>were on tour with Lizzo, she invited them. This is okay,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, let's just say this. If you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Life in Spanglish with little kiddos, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>we appreciate it, but the rest of this episode is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be not safe for them, so we want

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<v Speaker 2>to give you fair warning. We love that you listen,

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<v Speaker 2>but this might be the part where either you pause

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<v Speaker 2>it and come back and listen later so that the

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<v Speaker 2>little ears don't hear what's going on, because it can

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<v Speaker 2>get pretty graphic and like not safe for kids, not

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<v Speaker 2>safe for work if you're listening to us at work

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<v Speaker 2>on a desktop and other people can hear. We just

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<v Speaker 2>want to give you fair warning because when we give

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<v Speaker 2>you these details, you're going to see why this is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of more of an adult conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to start with Bananashow, Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I think we should have started there, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, yeah, this is where I was just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in situations before throughout my professional career where

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<v Speaker 2>people have taken me to different places. Look, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, there are some times where in the

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<v Speaker 2>past I've had to go and meet somebody that I

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<v Speaker 2>worked with at a strip club to drop something off

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<v Speaker 2>for them, you know what I mean. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>not unheard of any entertainment industry. I think that there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people who have similar stories of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being in different places where perhaps they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think business was going to go down, But this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of takes it to a different level. So I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been involved in anything like this, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how I would have reacted if my b or somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who was my superior took me to a place like.

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<v Speaker 1>This and it you know, they're out in Amsterdam. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's put that out there, which you know has this

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<v Speaker 1>red light district. A lot of sexual stuff happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of people are open to

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<v Speaker 1>going to these types of shows. And she probably like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just hanging out or whatever, but what transpired at

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<v Speaker 1>the show is what is the real issue?

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina definitely well. Also, I will clarify I used to

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<v Speaker 2>work for a DJ when I was interning one of

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<v Speaker 2>my very first internship jobs. And when I tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that I had to go to the strip club, it's

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<v Speaker 2>that he used to have records, like you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>they used to have these crates of records, and he

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<v Speaker 2>left one at the station. I had to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the station and picking up tickets him at the strip

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<v Speaker 2>club where he was DJing. So I don't want anybody

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that anything crazy went on, So just to clarify that,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the Dancwers claimed that while Lizo invited them

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<v Speaker 2>to a nude performance in Amsterdam, they went because they

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<v Speaker 2>feared that they would lose their jobs. So while they

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<v Speaker 2>were at this show, the lawsuit is claim mean that

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<v Speaker 2>Lizzo began leading a camp for one of the girls

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<v Speaker 2>in the lawsuit to touch one of the performer's breasts.

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<v Speaker 2>So she felt a little bit coerced at that point

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<v Speaker 2>because she went on three times and it was loud

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<v Speaker 2>enough for everybody to hear, and she expressed to her

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<v Speaker 2>in her words that she was good, like she said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, and that to her was basically saying I

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<v Speaker 2>do not want to touch this performer's breass. But then

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<v Speaker 2>she went ahead and did it because she was fearful

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<v Speaker 2>that it may harm her future on the team, hence retaliation.

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<v Speaker 2>So later that night, the allegations continue and they say

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<v Speaker 2>that Lizzo was badgering a member of her security team

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<v Speaker 2>to get on stage and then she pulled down his

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<v Speaker 2>pants and hit him with whips.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jesus, that is a lot what is happening at

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<v Speaker 1>Camp Lizzo.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, this is like next level while. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been to Amsterdam. I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever been to Amsterdam, Honey.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not, but I have friends that have been,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's a little while over there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've heard of people that have gone on vacation

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<v Speaker 2>or with other friends and stuff like that, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>never been, and I did hear that. You know, things

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<v Speaker 2>get a little crazy. So later that night they're saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a number of things also happened. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the things was what you mentioned the banana, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna let you take that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it seems though where they went they have this

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<v Speaker 1>banana show where people, I guess patrons are encouraged to

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<v Speaker 1>eat like a banana out of like the private parts

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<v Speaker 1>of some of the performers or after it's been in

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<v Speaker 1>there and that exactly. Now, that's some nastiness right there, Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not with it. I don't care if you my

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<v Speaker 1>boss or not. This is the day that we part ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not eating no banana out of nobody's coucy. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's another discussion about Lizzo telling them that they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to go to a bar in Paris, but

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<v Speaker 2>not revealing to them that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a nude cabaret, which I think that that's important to

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<v Speaker 2>let people know, like, hey, we're going to go clubbing,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go out, it's going to be a wild night,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do xyz, so that those people who kind

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<v Speaker 2>of that aren't into that stuff can make that decision

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<v Speaker 2>for themselves and decide whether or not they want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>There another instance where you could say I'm good and

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<v Speaker 1>decide to fall back. But I'm gonna be in my room,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do an iemask, I'm gonna tweeze my chin

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<v Speaker 1>hair anything. I don't want to see naked people tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and you think about it. If these people

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<v Speaker 2>are on the road, they are going out every single

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<v Speaker 2>day and not going out like partying. They're performing every

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<v Speaker 2>single day. They're in a different town. They have to

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<v Speaker 2>keep track of, you know, where they are. Sometimes that

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<v Speaker 2>means self care. You know, self care could be exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what you said, deciding to stay in bed and saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm not about that tonight, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take care of me. I'm going to order room service.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they felt pressured that if they didn't go,

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<v Speaker 2>that they would that they would get retaliated against, and

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<v Speaker 2>that it would be held against them. Now, another thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I also read in this lawsuit was that the

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<v Speaker 2>dancers were saying that the management team was entirely white,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the team was accusing the black members of

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<v Speaker 2>the dance team for being lazy and unprofessional and would

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<v Speaker 2>say that they had bad attitudes. But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this lawsuit is really interesting because it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like she said, she said, right, like the

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<v Speaker 2>when the girls came out and they were alleging all

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<v Speaker 2>of these things, we hadn't heard from Lizzo. So they

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<v Speaker 2>were giving their side of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's thing had been busy on doing interviews. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just watching them, like do an interview on like

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<v Speaker 1>CBS or NBC or one of them. They are actually

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<v Speaker 1>speaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, definitely, And then there's a big conversation about the

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<v Speaker 2>weight shaming, which I actually had to look up weight shaming,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't understand. But when we come back, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to break down for you what the girls are

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<v Speaker 2>alleging that Lizzo would say to them, or one girl

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, and we'll do that after the break. So

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<v Speaker 2>when these accusations started coming out and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>young ladies was saying that she was weight shamed, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't understand what that meant, you know, because I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>of fat shaming, I've heard of body shaming. I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>of all these different things, and so I I googled.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, what is weight shaming? And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that it is. There really isn't an explanation for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you understand what weight shaming is?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's a fact. My mom did it my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life growing up, eat a salad. Weight shaming was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of my upbringing. I've lived it. It can

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<v Speaker 1>be very traumatizing, have long term, you know, negative effects

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<v Speaker 1>on any woman or even boys. People wait shame little

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<v Speaker 1>boys too all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, so then I guess it's more weight

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<v Speaker 2>shaming because a lot of people online and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the comment section is crazy right now. Everybody has an opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody wants to say what they want to say about this.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I guess my assumption is that it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's the equivalent of body shaming and fat shaming, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's not even necessarily about a specific number. It's

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<v Speaker 2>pointing out that somebody has gained some weight. And so

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<v Speaker 2>one of the girls said that she was being weight

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<v Speaker 2>shamed by Lizzo and her choreographer and said that Lizzo

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<v Speaker 2>came up to her, I guess at one of the

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<v Speaker 2>rehearsals and was just like, what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like, what's why are you not as bubbly?

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<v Speaker 2>Why you? And she she basically put them under like

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<v Speaker 2>a thin veil of concern, But Lizzo had called attention

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<v Speaker 2>to it and was kind of calling her out about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that one, to me, is just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit I again, we don't know, we weren't there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a what she said versus what

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<v Speaker 2>Lizzo said. And I think that there were people who

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<v Speaker 2>were present that can maybe speak to that, but also

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<v Speaker 2>there are a number of other people that are coming

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<v Speaker 2>out now talking just about Lizzo's attitude and what it's

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<v Speaker 2>like to work with her.

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<v Speaker 1>And that I think that's where I was blindsided. I

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<v Speaker 1>think more I always, you know, had Lizzo on this

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<v Speaker 1>pedestal because of what she had done for body positivity.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the reality show The Watch Out for the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Girls where she actually hired two of these dancers

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<v Speaker 1>from they had auditioned and they won like a spot

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<v Speaker 1>to go on tour with Lizzo, and everything seemed fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Arianna Davis, She's one of the girls that competed

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, And I would have never expected any

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<v Speaker 1>of this to come out like I am mind blown

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<v Speaker 1>because I really thought Lizzo was different than what these

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<v Speaker 1>people are alleging.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody did. Yeah, And I never got to

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<v Speaker 2>watch the show, so I can't speak on on.

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<v Speaker 1>She was so amazing on the show currently. She was

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<v Speaker 1>so loving, she was so encouraging. She would cry if

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<v Speaker 1>she had to eliminate someone, like it would hurt her

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<v Speaker 1>heart to send someone home.

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<v Speaker 2>And are these were these auditions for girls to go

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<v Speaker 2>out on her tour with her. Is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it was that everyone was. They were auditioning

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<v Speaker 1>for a spot to go on tour with Lizzo, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the girls that won is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>girls I believe that's part of this lawsuit, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Arianna Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Well, yeah, they're saying that there were personal details

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<v Speaker 2>about their lives, like one of them was a virgin,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would talk about that extensively, and you know,

0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.440
<v Speaker 2>she was very embarrassed. She didn't think that everybody needed

0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.600
<v Speaker 2>to know that personal information. And so there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot going on. But Lizzo did respond, okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>now you guys are listening to this. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>all happening like within the past week, and Lizzo said, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>these last few days have been got rigingly difficult and

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmingly disappointing. Usually I choose not to respond to false allegations,

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<v Speaker 2>but these are as unbelievable as they sound, and two

0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.000
<v Speaker 2>outrageous to not be addressed. These sensationalized stories are coming

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<v Speaker 2>from former employees who have already publicly admitted that they

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<v Speaker 2>were told their behavior on tour was inappropriate and unprofessional,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she said, with passion comes hard work and

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<v Speaker 2>high standards. Sometimes I have to make card decision, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's never my intention to make anyone feel uncomfortable or

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<v Speaker 2>like they aren't valued as an important part of my team.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what it feels like to be body shamed

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<v Speaker 2>on a daily basis, and would never criticize or terminate

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<v Speaker 2>an employee because of their weight. So she's speaking out

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<v Speaker 2>on her own behalf and saying, like, hey, whatever, these

0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.520
<v Speaker 2>girls are saying, Number one, they were fired, and they

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<v Speaker 2>know why they were fired. I guess she's alleging that

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<v Speaker 2>they had inappropriate behavior. And then you know she's basically

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<v Speaker 2>saying these are false allegations and I would never address them,

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<v Speaker 2>but I need to because this is like my name.

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<v Speaker 2>She said. I'm hurt, but I will not let the

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<v Speaker 2>good work I've done in the world be overshadowed by this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to thank everyone who has reached out and

0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.680
<v Speaker 2>support to lift me up during this difficult time. I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot imagine what her phone looks like right now.

0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Her number must have been changed at this point. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't possibly keep the same number after a story like

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<v Speaker 1>this breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and then this former director Okay, this this documentarian

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<v Speaker 2>that was hired to do a documentary on Lizo, which

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<v Speaker 2>again I didn't watch this documentary, but I heard it

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<v Speaker 2>was incredible, Like that's streaming right now. She shared her

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<v Speaker 2>own experience and said that she traveled a bit with

0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Lizzo to be the director of her documentary and that

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<v Speaker 2>she walked off the job within two weeks, and she

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<v Speaker 2>said she was yeah, did you see she said she

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<v Speaker 2>was treated disrespectfully, and then she went on to say

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<v Speaker 2>that she saw how arrogant, self centered and unkind Lizzo is.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, whoa, Okay, now this is like people

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<v Speaker 2>doubling down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like because this happens, you know, like the whole

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<v Speaker 1>kicking while they're down thing when one allegation comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>people that might have had similar experience in this side. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go public.

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<v Speaker 2>Two.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened to me with Lizo, and everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>share their story, and I guess kind of echo the

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<v Speaker 1>same sentiment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then, did you ever get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the false imprisonment charge? Because I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>look for that. I don't understand what's going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I can equate with that was Ariana

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<v Speaker 1>Davis and Crystal Williams. They claimed that they were scared

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<v Speaker 1>to speak up for themselves out of fear of losing

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<v Speaker 1>their job. So they pretty much were like there, they

0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be on the tour, but they felt like

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<v Speaker 1>if they spoke up for themselves or defended themselves that

0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.720
<v Speaker 1>they would be kicked off the tour. It's like they

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<v Speaker 1>felt trapped in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, because like false imprisonment to me means

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<v Speaker 2>like did she lock them in their hotel room? Like

0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.800
<v Speaker 2>did she not allow them to leave? Like what is

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<v Speaker 2>that all about? So I think that we'll be hearing

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<v Speaker 2>more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I need more later. No, I definitely didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>more details on this. But in the c CBS News

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<v Speaker 1>interview that I watched, the two main dancers that are

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<v Speaker 1>filing the lawsuit, they explained why they were fired. Well,

0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.160
<v Speaker 1>they there was like some issue about drinking. They said

0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Lizzo did not allow them to drink at all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>drinking on the job. I can kind of understand that that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not uncommon for people who go on tour and perform.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some tours that are completely clean.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a fact, and then she confronted them about

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.640
<v Speaker 1>drinking before the shows. You know that people were saying,

0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.480
<v Speaker 1>like they just didn't look good on stage, and they

0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.399
<v Speaker 1>blamed it on we think you guys are drinking before

0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you go on stage. And then they were fired, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they proceeded to file this lawsuit and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>unravel all these other things that they experienced during the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I mean, this is just so crazy. So the

0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.359
<v Speaker 2>three former backup dancers are now speaking out against her.

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<v Speaker 2>The director who is not a part of the lawsuit. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make sure that we like cover that

0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.600
<v Speaker 2>she was very open about that and said that she

0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.199
<v Speaker 2>was just stating her opinion on working with Lizo. So

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<v Speaker 2>we have her coming out and discussing and now how

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<v Speaker 2>did Beyonce get dragged into this mess? My queen is

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<v Speaker 2>out here touring, she is working, and now people want

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<v Speaker 2>to say that Beyonce is being messy, which now even

0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce's mother has been dragged into this whole thing. So,

0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.399
<v Speaker 2>you guys, this is like Dan Rolo, like, this is

0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.879
<v Speaker 2>like a whole web of just like stories and allegations

0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and things that are coming out. And so once we

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<v Speaker 2>take this break and when we come back. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to give you guys the latest on what Tina Knowles

0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:19.959
<v Speaker 2>had to say because mama has spoken. Well, honey, did

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<v Speaker 2>you get a chance to go and see Beyonce when

0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:22.480
<v Speaker 2>she was in town?

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<v Speaker 1>Nah? I actually fell back. It was Met Life. I

0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.360
<v Speaker 1>felt like it was gonna I love Beyonce, but I've

0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.320
<v Speaker 1>seen her like probably like eight times, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this year, I'm gonna sit my ass down and let

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<v Speaker 1>other people enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Well one of my friends, her husband has

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<v Speaker 2>a box like a suite, and she had four tickets

0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.520
<v Speaker 2>and she was like, do you guys want to come

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<v Speaker 2>with me? And I was like, oh, hell, yes, I

0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.639
<v Speaker 2>want to come with you. You know. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>super excited. I haven't seen Beyonce on tour since on

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<v Speaker 2>the Run. And that was at Met Life as well,

0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I think so, or was it a Yankee Stadium? I

0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.480
<v Speaker 2>don't remember, but anyway, so we went and there's a

0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.960
<v Speaker 2>part of the show and this is why it's important,

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to bring this up. There's part of

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<v Speaker 2>the show where Beyonce speaks a bunch of iconic artists' names. Okay,

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 2>so she says like Rosetta Tharp, Santi Gold, Bessie Smith,

0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.919
<v Speaker 2>Nina Simone, Betty Davis, Solange, Knowles, ba Do, Lizzo, Kelly

0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Roll Okay. So she's been saying that on tour throughout

0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the entire tour. So in I think her latest performance,

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.000
<v Speaker 2>she decided to just say Bado Badu Badu. Okay. So

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.400
<v Speaker 2>now there's different reasons why people think that she's saying that.

0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.360
<v Speaker 2>But she took Lizzo's name out, and everybody went wild

0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.960
<v Speaker 2>with this. They oh, Beyonce doesn't support Lizzo, this and that. No, no, no,

0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.919
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about like how everybody's backing away, nobody's supporting Lizzo.

0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:51.399
<v Speaker 2>So Tina Noles, Beyonce's mom, came out and was like,

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.520
<v Speaker 2>y'all need something better to talk about. She was like,

0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce did not skip because of this lawsuit. She also

0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't say her own sister's name. You really need to stop.

0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.960
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people are saying, like, whoa is

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.119
<v Speaker 2>the entertainment backlash coming? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>You already know they said, they said, Beyonce performed Break

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.119
<v Speaker 1>My Soul and she left off Lizzo's name, and that

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.640
<v Speaker 1>was everywhere. I'm like, is Beyonce really taking a stance

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.320
<v Speaker 1>like I was like, Okay, Beyonce never really stands up

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>for too much when it comes to like other celebrities

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. She's very careful with what she does. So

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I was surprised by this. Thank god. Tina Knowles was like,

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:28.679
<v Speaker 1>let me tell ya what's.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, right, because then there was the headlines Beyonce's canceled Lizzo. No,

0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she's canceled Lizzo. I think that she

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<v Speaker 2>just decided to do something different in Massachusetts than she

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 2>did in New York and New Jersey. But you know,

0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I do think there's something a little bit suspect about that.

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.960
<v Speaker 2>And people were talking about her and ericabaud Dou like

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 2>just sidebar. Erica Badu recently said that, like Beyonce stole

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 2>her styles. So people are saying that, like maybe Beyonce

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 2>was shading Eric Abadu by saying Badu Badu Badu. Whatever. Okay,

0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 2>So anyway we digress. We come back to whole lawsuit

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and everything. So I don't know, what, do you think

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 2>you used to be a paralegal, and I know that

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.120
<v Speaker 2>you've been around situations like this before. Do you think

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.840
<v Speaker 2>that these people really have a chance at a lawsuit?

0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what it is. Once you file these lawsuits,

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>there's lawyers, there's people that's like, we're going to get

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you paid, We're gonna get your bread. Like they they're

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.200
<v Speaker 1>swon for like lost wages and things of that sort.

0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess for getting thrown off the tour because they

0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.920
<v Speaker 1>were allegedly drinking, but they were not drinking. So this

0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 1>feels more like an employment discrimination lawsuit versus like something deeper,

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like, yeah, they were working with little

0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 1>they feel like they were wrongfully terminating and their working

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 1>conditions weren't really like what they would have ideally liked

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 1>sexual harassment. But like this is more like an employment

0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, litigation that they have going on here.

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 2>But now do you think that this is something to

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.679
<v Speaker 2>where like Lizzle will have to go into court and

0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 2>like testify against them if they decide to really take

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it there, Like, is this something that that.

0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 1>It's civil to look at? Well, yeah, no, it's definitely

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a civil. Also, they have attorneys. I'm pretty sure these

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 1>attorneys are going to take it all the way to

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the top and they'll get paid later on once there's a

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.200
<v Speaker 1>settlement and nothing goes harder for a client, and that

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>an attorney that's going to get paid at the end.

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 1>So trust me, Carolina, this is not going to go

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>away unless there's some type of like resolution or arbitration

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.439
<v Speaker 1>or mediation behind closed doors. And Lizzle's like, I just

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>want this to go. Wait, how much money do you want?

0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.320
<v Speaker 1>How much money do you want? Okay, here's the check,

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<v Speaker 1>go away, ladies. It was nice knowing you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. So then this wouldn't be something that we

0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.159
<v Speaker 2>would see like on court TV with people testifying and

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth. Because remember like the Johnny Depp

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 2>amber Heard trial where we were just like totally fixated

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>on the television we could not stop watching.

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 1>It really depends on the dancers and how far they

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 1>want to take it and the lawyers like, Okay, we're

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.119
<v Speaker 1>going to drag this out. We're going to take little

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Speaker 1>to Supreme Court. Because with simple cases you do go

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 1>up to the Supreme Court. It's not like it's something minor.

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>This is big. This is a big deal. And the

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>fact that these girls are banding together and then they're

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.640
<v Speaker 1>also getting people to chime in and the background, it's

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>given it more validation and more I guess validity to

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>their claim. So Lizo's gonna have to pay up, Liza's

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to go to court. This is not going

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to go a way easily.

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 2>And there are two sides to it too, because once

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Lizzo released that sement, see I feel like you're damned

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 2>if you do and you're damned if you don't, because

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have been commenting like, oh, there

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 2>was no acknowledgment, no accountability from Lizzo in that statement. Well,

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 2>what do you guys think that she's gonna do. Do

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you think she's really gonna come out and be like yep,

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I made them go to this like banana show and

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 2>answerdam with me. You know. I think that she's gonna

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 2>let her lawyer handle that. And let's also look at

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the big picture. Lizzo has enough money now to hire

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the best lawyers in Los Angeles. I think

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Marty Singer is gonna represent her. And Marty Singer has

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 2>been connected to some of the like the biggest celebrities

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>and their court cases and stuff.

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Like Marty already spoke out and said, we are confident

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that Lizzo will be completely vindicated in this matter. So

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you already know Marty's gonna go hard for Lizzo.

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he is not to like the cameras. He

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 2>loves to represent celebrities and you know what, that's his wheelhouse,

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 2>you know. But like, on the other hand, I think

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 2>it is important that if you have ever been in

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 2>a situation, just because somebody has more money and they

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 2>have the ability to hire like the best lawyer doesn't

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 2>invalidate you know, maybe what you're feeling or what your

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 2>recollection was, you know. So I think these girls have

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>like a crazy battle ahead of them. But I also

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 2>think that so does Lizzo because if more people start

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 2>coming out and talking about their experiences with her, it

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>is not a good look.

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And you can't prepare your reputation. It would suck if

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>this is something that is not valid and it's not truthful.

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And now a lot of us have you know, now

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us have a different perspective as to

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>who Lizzo is. There are things that you just can't race,

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and these allegations are here forever, we will forever find them,

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and Lizzo's image has been tarnished. I was I was

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>online and I was like getting all these Lizzo numb

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and they were like Lizzo lost like one hundred and

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand followers on Instagram alone after these accusations came out.

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>So people are already being turned off by Lizzo despite

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>not knowing the truth of the matter fully.

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Wow, And then that definitely hurts her in the pocket

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you lose one hundred and twenty thousand followers.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't even have one hundred and twenty thousand dollars,

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, but it's like those numbers though for her

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 2>that equals advertising dollars, endorsement and branding deals, you know.

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>So that's going to hit her in the pocket if

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 2>this negative press or this negative attention continues. Now. I

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>thought of a really great point though that somebody brought

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 2>up to me when we were discussing this today. I

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>I know, if this were a man and these were

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>accusations against like a different artists that were a male,

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 2>this would be blown up like crazy. I think it's

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>blown up like but I argued, I think this is

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a giant story, you know what I mean, Like, I

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 2>don't think that it's any us because Lizzo is a woman.

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I think the people are more surprised because it's a woman.

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Also, for me, it was just okay, so they're hanging out.

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Lizo is very open sexually. We all know this. Lizo

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>is very comfortable showing her body and twerk and just

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's very open sexually. So right, I took

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it for like, okay, they went out. You know, Lizo

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.439
<v Speaker 1>was maybe drinking, she was doing a little too much.

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>They weren't comfortable with it. So I have to wait

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>for this story to unfold because I feel like there's

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>layers to this story.

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I know. But you can't do that anymore. I mean

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like again, like I said, like it's twenty

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty three, you cannot be heading to a strip club

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 2>with your counterparts. Now. It's even frowned upon to even

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>go to a bar with somebody who you work.

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>With, you know what I mean, Like thought these were

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the homies.

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 2>No, you gotta watch out. That's why they say you

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>may think they're your homie, but they may be a phony,

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, it's true because you have to

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>be so guarded, but it's actually when you're in a

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>position of power. You know, we have to take these

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, you guys, we have to take these

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>courses every year online and it's like our company makes

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>us take this like thing where you have to learn

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 2>about sexual harassment and all of these things, you know,

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's like they do it because then they say

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>like we prepared you or we let you know what's

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>to be expected, and they always have these like fake

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 2>people acting out these scenarios. I would love to see

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 2>them try to like fake act out the Lizzo scenario, like, hey,

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go We're gonna see a woman with a

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 2>banana in her vatina, Like what do you guys think

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 2>a B or C? Is this appropriate? Is it inappropriate?

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Or do you just go with the flow? You know?

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>And different artists are totally different when it comes to

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>who they interact with on tour, Like I know a

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that work in the touring industry, Like

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>one of my close friends, she's on tour with fifty

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>cent right now, and she was on tour with Naked,

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>with Ariana Grande, with Pitople, and every experience is totally

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.199
<v Speaker 1>different for her. Some artists come out, some artists just

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>go straight to their room. I feel like this is

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a case where you know, Lizzo did too much and

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>was too involved with the dancers hanging out drinking, going outside,

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and she gonna let her guard down. She I guess

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe she just didn't act like a boss. Let's say, like,

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>I know someone who was on tour with Bad Bunny.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>He was amazing. He chartered everyone, didn't even take buses.

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>He brought them everyone on planes, and they said he

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>would be most amazing. But he wasn't always present. Like

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>he would set up like bowling parties for them. Everybody

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>would go bowling, he wouldn't be there. He would buy

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>everyone sneakers and he would send them, he wouldn't be there.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe what happened to lizz was she just got too

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>caught up and started hanging out with these dancers like

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>they were her friends. And here we are.

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my gosh. No, definitely. So it's like word

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>to the why separate your business and your pleasure and

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>your fun and your friends, because like this is not it.

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just curious to see how Lizzo's gonna deal

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>with that. But I do think it's going to give

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>us more of an inside look into how these tours operate.

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, And we were mentioning before I know that

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 2>when Britney Spears was on tour, all of her dancers

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>were tested, they were required even on their off days

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>to be clean. They wanted nothing, so you had to

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 2>make that commitment. If you want to dance for Brittany,

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>you cannot consume alcohol, drugs or you'll be kicked off.

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, So we need to see in all fairness, like,

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>were there these rules implemented on Lozo tour? You know,

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>did the dancers really know what their limitations were before?

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Because it could come back to bite them in the ass.

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't know at this point. Is it

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>sensationalized or is it one hundred percent true? And we

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>just never knew Lizzle because I feel like a lot

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>of the times, Carolina, we tend to put celebrities and

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>pedestals in Lizzle. I feel like this is one of them.

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like everybody's like, oh my gosh, she's so

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>body positive, she's amazing, she's so good, she's doing so much.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>She's representative of so many different you know groups, you know,

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>people of color, women of color, plus sized people, like

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>she was just a queen to a lot of people.

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I myself always supported her, always admired her, and definitely

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>totally blindsided. But it teaches me a lesson. You don't

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>know these celebrities girls, sit your ass down. Stop guessing.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>No, But also I do have to say, like, we

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>are a country of innocent until proven guilty, and I

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>think that we have to be fair, you know, we

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>have to I think cancel culture. Everybody's so quick now

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 2>to cancel. And it's like, could it have been a

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>toxic work environment? Yes? Should we give Lizzo the freedom

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and the ability to defend herself like in a court,

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Like she doesn't have to release a statement for the public,

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of people would want her to, but

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't have to, you know what I'm saying. So

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you are innocent until proven guilty in this country,

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>or at least you know, a lot of people say that,

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 2>But like are we practicing that, because I know a

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of people have already begun judging in their own lives, and.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we haven't practiced that and forever, I

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like in this country, it's like the sentiment is

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>more you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even a celebrity, even a.

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Celebrities this it's like, okay, you did it. Now proved

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>to me that you didn't do it for real.

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 2>And now, like I think that she has season two

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>or she has another season of her show that's going

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 2>to be coming out, So this could definitely harm her professionally,

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Like there are a number of things that could you know, backlash,

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>be a backlash for her, and you know, I'm curious

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>to see how it's going to play out. I know

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>that when R Kelly got in trouble. I know that

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>when Chris Brown got in trouble, people were writing into

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>the radio station saying, take their music off of your station.

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, are people going to go that far with this?

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>You just never know.

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>We don't know. It's like even brands that's also a

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>big deal for like artists. It's like brands will disassociate themselves,

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Like she could lose millions behind this. So it's like

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>not that I want it to be true, but I

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>hope it is truth. If this is already probably going

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to cause dis must damage to not only her reputation

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>but her pockets, well.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>We are going to be watching and we will keep

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 2>you posted, guys, because this story is just wow. Like them,

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, like the flames just keep getting higher and higher,

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>and I was like one day That's what I was like,

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Tina Knowles is involved? What is happening here? You know,

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>like not Beyonce's law. That's what you said.

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>We got to talk about it, yes, because.

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I said the queen's mother. This was like, Beyonce is

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 2>my queen and her mother Tina like who birthed her?

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>When she speaks out, you know you need to listen.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like we're gonna hear more about it, Like,

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>definitely comment and let us know what are your thoughts

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 2>on this? Did you believe it right when it came out?

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:39.760
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0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.080
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0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.960
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0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>have opinions.

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.600
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