WEBVTT - Love Across the Pond 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell I Suck at Dating with Me Youngler and Dared 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:11.400 Haven Heart Radio podcast. Hey, welcome back to uh what 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.159 is the podcast called? Help I Suck at Dating? Of 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.360 course I remember, I'm losing my mind. I've been at 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:18.280 my in laws for over a month. How is everybody 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.560 out there? And suck Army Land. We have a great 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:25.960 episode coming up for you. Uh. We have a special, wonderful, amazing, 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.360 beautiful guest who is joining us right now, but before 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.800 I introduced her because she's been on the podcast before. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.560 We have a great guest coming up. Maya as Ratti 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:35.920 is coming up and we're gonna talk about dating heading 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.919 into one which will hopefully be a little bit easier 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.479 on all of us. Dean, First of all, how the 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:47.680 hell are you? Hey, Jared, I'm very uh displeased with 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.960 you that you forgot the name of our podcast. Of 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.080 course I didn't forget. I was just trying to do 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.200 something different. You know, there's only so many ways we 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.640 can intro a podcast. I was like, let's just do 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:58.840 let me pretend that I forgot the name of it 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:00.880 for a second, and it really just didn't land. All right, 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.120 I'm like a stand up comedian right now, it's fine, 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.520 it's fine. That's a nutshell, So at the very least, 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.760 it's exemplary area of what we've all been through. But 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:14.960 I'm good. I think you uh kind of alluded to 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:16.320 it a little bit. But why don't we just jump 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.360 into Katie and see how she's doing? Because who that 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.480 cares about us? He cares about For your response to you, guys, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.920 k Katie Morton, Ladies and gentlemen, what do you mean 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.600 our response? I was waiting to see how y'all were. Oh, 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.440 we're fine, but we don't care about us. We care 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:37.160 about you. We want to hear more about Katie Moe. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:39.880 We've had you on the podcast a million times. You're 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.959 essentially the third most consistent thing on this podcast, the 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.320 first being shared, the second being all of our producers 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.440 being great, the third being you, and then the fourth 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.560 me showing up on time. So congratulations on cracking the 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.360 top three. But fellow's name Katie. Obviously it's been while 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.320 since we checked in with you. Um, we talked a 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.600 little bit before we started recording this cast. But you're 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.640 what and you're in Orlando now with your family? Is 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.440 that right? Yeah? I'm in Orlando at my parents house. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.000 I haven't really been getting too close to my family 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:13.320 because I have traveled, so I'm on a little bit 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.959 of a different floor. But we passed each other like 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:20.200 ships passing in the night and here. Yeah, but I 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.680 will get to the after some time has gone by. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.239 We'll get to spend it with them before I go 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.120 off on my way. Yeah. Well, you're speaking there with 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.400 a little bit of English accent, which if you haven't, 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.560 if you don't follow Katie, which I'm sure everybody already does, Katie, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.480 you are dating a British man. That was a terrible 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:47.800 English accent. That was Scottish. It was something alright. Anyway, 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:54.200 back to you tell us about your boyfriend. Oh well, um, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:03:00.520 I'm dating an english Man man now I'm english Man. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.040 He's so great. Um, what do you want to know? 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.840 How did you guys meet Sells everything? Oh? God, you guys, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.000 because did he slide in the old d M S? Yeah? 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.519 What's this whole security number? Bank information? Things of this nature? Okay, 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.000 we met two weeks before Paradise. The day after I 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.520 filed my Paradise intro. We met. Um, I'm gonna do 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.639 like a Q and I probably with him at some point, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.440 So I'm going to keep some things. But wait a minute. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.800 Holy you met two weeks before you left for Paradise, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.640 and were you like, Okay, I'm going to go to 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.320 Paradise and see how it works out. And then a 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.240 month later you got back, You're like, okay, I'm engaged. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.320 Oh no, no, no. I met him on the street. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:48.240 He pulled me aside on Sunset Boulevard like he was 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.480 skateboarding and saw me, and I was like, I think 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.400 we were I was going to dinner, but I think 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.440 it was either that night or the night after. It 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:01.920 was Hannahby's we're watching Hannaby season. Anyway, he pulled me aside. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:06.400 It was like, maybe have a chat, and you were like, yeah, 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.240 if you speak in that accident all night, we can 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:12.480 have a chat. Chats all night, buddy. Um. But then 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.560 he all we did was given Instagram of information. That's 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.960 what we exchanged. And later that night he said like, 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.320 how was your day? And I'm guessing that's how we 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.359 said it because that's what it looks like. And I 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.240 was like, oh, yeah, it was great, and then we 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.599 didn't talk. Like he didn't respond back, but I also 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.480 wasn't concerned about him responding back either because I was 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:38.000 like headspace and paradise and was super busy, just like 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.760 getting ready for it, So he never got my message 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.160 and I never cared to see if he got my message. 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.600 So then it was almost like we just lived separate lives. 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:54.000 And then later obviously everything has happened. And then a 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.599 couple of months ago he saw me on a dating 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.000 app and I had showed up on Rya in London 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.560 and like, Hey, are you in London? Like, I'd love 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.000 to take you to dinner before you leave, because like 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.760 I don't know if we're going to have an opportunity 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.120 to match on the app, and I was like, I'm 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.760 actually not. But it's really interesting that the dating app 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.080 thought I exhausted all options in the US. That is 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.960 pretty funny. I was like, Wow, that's that's interesting. Why 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.880 is it sending me global for the For the record, 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.360 just to be clear for the listeners out there that 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.240 might not be familiar with Riya, it is a dating 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.680 app for famous people. That's why Katie is on it, 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.440 So I'm assuming this guy has to be some sort 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.839 of famous person as well. Is that right? Is not 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.920 all famous people? I think there's like tears of riot 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.800 to be honest, I think that there's like Channing Tatum, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:46.080 but then there's like a and there's like I was 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.440 gonna say, Jared similar. Yeah, I was on Riya there 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.040 for a little while, Dean. Have you ever been on Riya? 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.080 I have been on Riya and I'm at for some 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.720 pretty interesting people, but nothing obviously ever came from it. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.960 But you know what I'm saying, it's not like famous people. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.560 It's just like there's some people and well, listen, I 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.360 agree with you that it's not just famous people. Uh 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.840 So for instance, like I I referred to a a friend 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.120 who uh you know, works a very normal job and 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.920 he got accepted somehow, so so they have this weird 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.200 criteria for what is what isn't what isn't allowed? Um. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.360 And then I remember reading some story like Amanda Stanton 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.200 couldn't get on Riot even though she was trying for 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:22.839 a long time or something. It's like, well, if Amanda 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.760 can't get on, but my friends Sam can get on. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.159 And some of the people, some of the people I 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.680 match with were like world famous gymnasts that would have 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.640 won like multiple gold medals and like crazy stuff like that, 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.120 And I'm like, whoa, this is super cool. But for 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.239 me personally, it was just like an app to be like, WHOA, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.080 that's cool to see that person on the stating app, 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:40.800 you know what I mean. That's how kind of how 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.080 it was for me to like, it wasn't I didn't 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.520 see that many people in there or anything. Didn't go 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.960 on too many Riot dates. But anyway, he's on the 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.919 app and he didn't want to wait to match me 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:53.760 or whatever because he didn't know if I was going 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.720 to be hanging out on the app all in London 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.440 even though it wasn't there, so uh, he decided to 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.599 reach out on Instagram. Was like, asked me to dinner 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.560 and I was like, can't come, not in London. And 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.080 then I was like, oh, but how do I know you? 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:12.040 Because I saw from before Paradise the messages and I 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:13.440 was like, remind me how I know you? And he 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.720 was like, oh, I actually met you on the streets 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.600 of l A and you were with your friend Hannah. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.400 I was with Hannah. Gee said you were with your 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.680 friend Hannah, and I was like, oh my gosh. And 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.440 then I remembered it clicked and I was like, oh, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.760 I know who this is. And then we just had 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.360 some chats and then he scheduled a FaceTime date for 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.200 the next day, and then we just kept going from there. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.960 What made you want to go to England? Like when 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.200 we were like, Okay, I'm gonna travel across an ocean 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.880 for this dude, not only across an ocean but across 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.240 the cotton as well. Because you're going from l A 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.080 all the way to the East Coast and then to England. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.720 That's a that's a commitment right there. It's a jump. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:56.320 So and like, I really it was interesting. So we're facetiming. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.600 We faced him for a really long time, but I 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.920 really eyes there was something in my gut that was 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.239 like this guy is great for me, and I'm gonna 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.920 listen to my gut this time, because when I don't 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.560 listen to my gut, things go awry. So I'm like, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.400 I'm gonna listening to my gut, like this guy is great. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.440 Like obviously it wasn't rushing anything. We talked for a 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.080 couple of weeks, but I was like, this is gonna 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.000 die a slow death on face time or someone's gonna 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.320 have to make a move and he can't. He plays 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.360 um soccer or football, but soccer over there is you 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:36.040 a professional player. Yeah, but he yeah, it's like it's 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:40.320 a very complicated system. He's uh, but yeah, so he 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.080 plays professionally, but he so he doesn't get any days 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.200 off pretty much. And so I was like, oh, he 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.839 can't come here. Um, but I was like, this is 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.920 gonna die a very slow death, or someone's gonna have 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.320 to make a move, and it looks like that someone's 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.280 going to have to be me. So then we're talking 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.000 and he's like, gosh, I wish he could come to London. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.920 I'm like, what if I did? And he's like that 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.480 would be sick, and I'm like, let's do it. And 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.840 then I was just like, I mean, being on a 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:14.000 plane is Honestly, being on that plane was safer than 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.960 being in l a because there was probably max. Twenty 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.480 people on the plane, on that huge plane, and they 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.320 were like it was sad because they said, this is 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.040 the last time this plane is flying because there's not 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.880 enough people to fly. It was sad. They blasted Adele 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.719 for the last thirty minutes of the fly and but 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.240 attendants were crying and hugging each other, and then I started, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:33.920 this is a moment for me, this is a moment 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:38.760 for them, it was Virgin Airlines. I got it out there. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.040 Oh well, that's so sad. God, it's so sad. Like 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.000 even we ordered take out from a local business right 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.520 down the street, and like every time we go in there, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.360 there's just nobody in there and the poor manager just 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.520 standing there with you know, twiddling their thumbs and it's 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.280 like this is this is depressing. So I'm sorry. Continue. Yeah. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.880 So I had the like aisles in front of me 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.400 and behind me just completely empty. I was laying I 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.959 laid down a slept for for eight of the nine hours, 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.640 so um yeah. And then I got there and I 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:11.080 had to quarantine and then we met Oh yeah, because 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.160 he's a professional soccer place, so they probably have pretty 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:17.040 stingent rules about when you can see someone from the outside. Yeah. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:23.800 And also I had to quarantine because, um just because 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:28.920 it was the rules. Yeah. And so also I was like, Okay, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.040 how can I make this to where I can go 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.280 and it doesn't have to just be for leisure. So 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.599 my friend's family owns a business there, so like, um that, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.040 and she's from my hometown, so I offered to like 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.400 do help them with work. I went over there so 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.880 then I could go for like business. So it was 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.440 it was like a good It all worked out perfectly 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.520 and then we got to me and it was like 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.600 I had known him for a really long time. And 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.440 so so the plan, I know, you said you're gonna 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.160 answer this Q and a later on on your so 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:00.559 we don't want to spoil to many things, but you 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:04.240 said you're you're going back out to London. Yes, So 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.280 that is a good sign obviously because it went well 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.480 enough the first time. It went so great the first time. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.280 And it was interesting because I had a quarantine so 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.559 I didn't really get to see him, and then when 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.200 I got to see him, England went into lockdown, so 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.480 I had about I had a couple of days in 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.520 London where I got to spend time in London before 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.640 the lockdown but after my quarantine, and I was super 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.360 lucky because for else I would have never seen actual London. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.079 So I actually did get to see the city a 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.920 little bit, but very like, very quickly. So let me 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.760 ask you this, are you gonna move to freaking England? 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.520 What's going on with your kid? And now I'm not 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.560 going to move to England right now, It's not any 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.840 time soon. Um, We're just it's a time where I 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:54.640 don't have to technically both places are on lockdown l A. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:12:01.640 And the one thing is I do miss my freaking talk. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.200 I love bears, Bear the Bears with you right now. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.000 He's with me right now, which is amazing. But he 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.760 can't come to England or else. He will have to 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.600 get taken from me. What and who probably does he 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.559 have to be in the cargo? Can he be in 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.800 the plane with you because he's an emotional animal, but 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.040 he has to have a pet passport which can take 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.400 up to three months to process or something like this 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:29.560 for you. So it's a little complicated. But I'm going back, 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.520 and I know it's fairly soon to go back, but 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.760 it's like a newer relationship and we figured and we 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.520 might as well go go for long periods closer together 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:46.120 to establish that solid foundation and then we can space 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:51.240 it out. And yeah, are we calling him your boyfriend? Um? 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.559 I call him. I don't really call him my boyfriend. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.439 I just call him. I just call him James. Well, 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.760 that's an interesting conversation because when as an adult like 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.800 are you like, hey, a, are are we boyfriend girlfriend? 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.480 It feels like such a high school conversation. But you 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.400 kind of have to establish it, like I we're definitely exclusive. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.839 We definitely established that. Like I was like, listen, I'm 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.720 not going to be coming to England if we're not exclusive. 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.360 That's got to be just right out there, and he 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:21.720 was like, of course not. I'm like, yes, of course not. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.000 So you guys are exclusive. I think that. I mean, 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.439 I think in today's day and age, that conversation means 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.000 you guys are boyfriend and girlfriends. Yeah. I think, well, 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.520 there's so many lights here. I think that exclusive is 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.480 good enough for me because yeah, the boyfriend and girlfriend chap, 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.560 I don't know. Well, that's what That's what the boyfriend 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.959 girlfriend chat has evolved into, is asking whether you're exclusive 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.480 or not. I think I think it's a matter of 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.319 getting older a and times just changing B. But because like, yeah, 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.679 we're not in high school anymore, you're not gonna say exactly. Okay, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:51.800 let me ask you this, what the hell is the 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.840 difference between being exclusive and being boyfriend girlfriend? That's what 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.240 I'm saying. Is there the same thing that's today's day 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.280 and age of asking someone to be your boyfriend is 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.400 the tough exclusivity? Wait though, Dean in England when I 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:08.559 was there people were going from exclusivity to boyfriend and 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.760 girlfriend and they were asking in a very promposal way. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.199 Like it was an example like they they are definitely 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:19.280 where people with stages. Like an example, one of his 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:24.400 friends was dating someone exclusively and then he goes, all right, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.800 I think I'm ready to ask her to be my girlfriend. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.480 And I'm like, wait, you guys are exclusive, and he's like, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.760 I know, is there like a timetable over there? Like Okay, 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.760 we're gonna go on a few dates and then we're 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.760 gonna become exclusive for like a month or two and 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.400 see how it goes, and then if it goes well 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.600 after two months, then we'll become boyfriend girlfriend. See I 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.720 don't really know what the timetable is, but I was 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.000 getting the gist that there is definitely a longer period 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.760 of time to where people decide boyfriend and girlfriend. Because 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.200 when I feel like what I was getting the gist of, 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.440 at least within that group, was that once your boyfriend 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.360 and girlfriend, you're like, I'm basic like this person, I 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.200 definitely see myself marrying. I've got a question for you, Katie. So, 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.760 UH might get a little too personally here, but when 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.400 you start dating someone Uh, there's always that that moment 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.240 where things get intimate, right, But if you if you're 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.120 traveling literally six thousand miles to see someone, what is 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.320 kind of like that? What is the expectation like? Because 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.000 from what I've happies together, it sounds like you guys, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.440 haven't you been romantic or anything like that, But now 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:27.960 all of a sudden, you're flying twelve hours to go 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.040 see this guy, So like, what is the expectation? Is 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.960 there an expectation? How did you guys handle that whole situation? 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.560 Like did you look after you got to quarantine, once 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.240 you got to London, did you then stay with him 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.400 the rest of the time at his apartment or flat 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.200 or whatever it's called. Uh, what was kind of the 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.720 whole process there? Um? Yeah, that's actually a really good question. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.400 I I that question popped into my head right before 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.200 I left. So then I gave him a call because 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.160 I was like, listen, I'm not coming over here just 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.480 to sleep with you. And then I'm not I'm not 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.320 just going to be your American piece of ass. And 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:03.280 then it's addition to that, right, well, I'm just saying 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.520 like come on. So I was just like okay, and 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.320 he was like, of course not. And I was like, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.240 here's the boundaries. So I sat clear boundaries when when 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.560 I was there and then or before I got there, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.200 and I mean like we were sleeping in the same 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.360 bed when we hadn't even kissed yet at point. So 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.920 I definitely was like taking it pretty slow. But at 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:31.720 the same time, slow is relative to every different person um. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.720 But yeah, there was no expectation on his end. He 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.840 was literally just like getting to know me, and we 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.400 went on a couple of dates and then when it 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.760 was locked down though, it was like, oh, England walked 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.960 down and we had to move in and I was like, well, 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.560 this is escalating quickly. This is escalated quickly. At least 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:50.920 you're gonna know if it's going to work out. And 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.160 it's like a bachelor, you know, where everything is just 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.440 on a short time table. Yeah, it honestly didn't feel 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:02.120 too It fell way more comfortable than Paradise, and it 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:06.199 was kind of a similar situation like timeline. Well, let 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.359 me ask about that. So this is your first relationship 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.560 since being engaged. What has that been like for you? Mhm, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:18.000 way better? All right, let's just leave it at that. No, No, no, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.360 let's let's expound upon that a little bit, way way better. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:29.160 Why that's funny, Um, I've established like my own personal boundaries. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.680 I'm listening to my gut a lot more. I think 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:37.119 I like lost that maybe ability in Paradise. I was 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.480 so I felt like at one point I just didn't 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.080 even do it myself. So I'm just enjoying I'm just 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.240 not and not putting pressure on it, but also getting 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.680 all of the reassurance I could have never even asked 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.840 for because I'm just like, you know what, after my experience, 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.640 I'm literally never going to settle for anything less than 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.680 something that makes me feel an incredible and I'm keep 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.760 living my life and if it fits with my life 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.359 and fits with like I'm such like a lovely person 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.280 that if this person isn't for me, I will know. 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.320 And so far, so good. I'm going to google all 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.400 English soccer players named James and figure out exactly who 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.159 he is. But that's going to take a little bit 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.720 of time, and in the meantime, we're gonna take one 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.159 quick break Before we get to the break, though, Katie, 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:25.959 just one final question for you, and I think it's 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.680 the most important question that we've asked on this podcast. 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:35.000 So far is are you happy? Yes? And yes I am, 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.520 And I wanted just say like I'm happy, I was happy, 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.760 were gaining happiness before James. I just like to put 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.040 that out there because I think that that's important that 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.880 you don't need a guy to be happy and so, um, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.760 but yeah, I'm happy and then plus I get a 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.400 little additional bonus happy. I think that's awesomely a great 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.360 message and I think that's very important to point out too, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.320 is you're not finding happiness in the in this guy, 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:02.879 but you have found it in yourself and then you 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:08.120 found Sir James Madison UH of Coventry, England. Perhaps that's 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:09.760 his name. I don't know, Maybe it is, maybe it's not. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.199 We're gonna take a quick break. Jared and I had 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.200 a great interview last a couple of days ago. We're 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.360 gonna get to that, and then we're gonna jump into 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.560 some final questions here with Katie as well. Um, so 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:32.560 stay tuned for all that. Hey, welcome back to help 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.879 I suck at dating. We have a very special guest 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.119 who is joining us via zoom because you know, uh, 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:42.359 she is the c d O of Rewarding Relationships, which 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.439 is also known as the Chief Dating Officer. It is 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:50.960 Maya is rot y Maya? How are you? I'm awesome, guys. 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.480 I'm so excited to meet you. You're my favorite podcast. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.400 I'll get out of here. You're just you're just being polite. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.879 You are being polite. There's no way you're where your 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.960 favorite podcast. Guys. This is what I do. So I'd 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.479 love to help people who stuck up dating. Sweet Well, 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.120 let's help. Let's help all ten of our listeners as 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.560 much as we possibly can this episode. Um, thanks for 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.959 joining us. We obviously appreciate having an expert's opinion because 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.679 all we ever really do is just me and Jared. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.840 Just you are our nonsensical nonsense to the listeners out 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.200 they're giving our you know, unsolicited advice. But it's nice 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:25.560 to have someone that actually kind of knows what they're 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.520 talking about. Jared has prepared a couple of questions. I 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:31.360 guess we both kind of have, right, Jared, you want 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:33.879 to start off and well, of course, well, my like 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:38.399 tell us a little bit about rewarding relationships. UM, and you, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.119 being the chief Dating Officer, I think a lot of 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.439 people are wondering, what does that exactly mean? Great question? 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.919 I help people remove the desperation and frustration from dating, 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.480 love and relationship. Does he like me? Does he not 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.399 like me? Is she into me? What do I text? 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.720 What do I wear? How do I put my online 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.439 profile up? Do I expect the phone call? All? Do 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.480 I let him me up on the first date? All 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:05.080