1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: All right, so we have a fun week coming up. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Anything you're nervous about going to Florida, bit, it's your 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: phone over. I always have my phone over, which is 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: actually an interesting topic. Side note, this is my sidebar. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: Sometimes it bothers people in relationships when you put the 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: phone down because you think, but I always because I 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: don't like seeing a phone because I think it's rude. 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Like normally, when have you ever seen my phone up 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: like that? 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Normally you've got the phone down. You've been the nineteen 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: sixty five wallet case phone thing. 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that anymore though, But no, I has 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: that ever been a pet peeve of yours because it 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: hasn't been a mind but I've always I was talking 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: to we were talking to Jenny McCarthy and she was 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: saying how she didn't Donnie didn't like it when she'd 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: put her phone down like that. 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: I think my I think my FoST thought is well, 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: why what you hat you then when you put your 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: phone down like that? 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: But it's always down like that? 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't normally have a phone case like that. 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: I'm not seeing your hiding then no, no, I don't 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: want to see your phone. 26 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I guess I don't. I just don't 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: ever like it going up like that for some reason, 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: because I don't. I get too sidetracked when I see 29 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: people's like when Catherine has. 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: So that's why the old the old wallet phone from 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 3: two thousand and two, you're probably actually better to get 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 3: in all lot. Why because it folds over? 33 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, mine never folded over. No, I just 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: always turned it over. Oh that's interesting. So you thought 35 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: that it was a foldover. No, it was just was 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: just on the back. Yeah, okay, very observant, clearly. Anyways, 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: we're going to Florida. It's our first I would say 38 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: it's our first official family No, because we were with 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: the wedding, but like true just vak Yeah, well no, 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: well as a family of three, what was that. 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: Is a family of three? 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: No? 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: Because a family you know, because when we went fourth 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: of July up north, I was but this is I 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: was pregnant with Romans. So this is now with the baby, 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: with Joli and Jase. We're going to the beach. 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's just a pity that Troy couldn't be there 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: because of his football, which such a break is different. 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, it'll be good, which leads me to the 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 3: question of in fact, it's not a question, it's a request. 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 3: So we're renting. We're renting a boat one day, aren't. 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: We We are swimming at the dolphins in the ocean. 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: I'm so excited. Okay, but do you know what sharks 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: eat fish dolphins? Do you know how many videos on 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: Instagram I've seen a shark just swimming past the boat 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 3: with a dolphin hanging out the smuth. 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: No, it's probably Ai. 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: It's not Ai. I thought you should be renting the boat. 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: What I thought we were getting a boat. 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: We have a boat. It's going to take us out 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: to the cove and we're going to swim with dolphins 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: in the ocean. 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: I'm not what I'm not I'm not getting in. I 64 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: am not getting in the ocean in Florida. Why is 65 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: that a real question? Yes, it's riddled with shops, Yeah, 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: shocks everywhere. 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: Honey, it's an ocean. 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: The highest percentage of shop attacks in the last two 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: years is Florida. 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: Hey, Siri, hold on a second, what what was that 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: a Google search? I just know, I just know you 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: just know what. 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: Again? Pull it on your on your Instagram. I don't. 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a poll that you've won. 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: What what is? I don't understand though, But yet you'll 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: drive a motorcycle on the roads? 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Just yeah the. 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 3: CITs when the last when's the last time I drove 80 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: a more? 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: You don't have your license, but you have a motorcycle. 82 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: Have it makes sense. 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: I've had a motorcycle since February and it's done four 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: point eight miles. 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: Because you don't have a license, it doesn't make sense 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: to me why. 87 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: You even have a point seven of those miles a 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: mile an hour or under. 89 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready for your chance of how common 90 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: it is to get a No? 91 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm not interested. 92 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: I'm not interested in facts yours what. 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: I'm not interested in the statistics and the data of what. 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about motorcycles in the road because that's 95 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: actually more common. 96 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: It's just the motorcycle chat. I don't use it. 97 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: These instances are still. 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 4: Helen. 99 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: And yesterday, yesterday I got out of the garage. Twelve 100 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: is a the gym? I thought, you know what, I'm 101 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: in the gym. I may as well look at it 102 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: for an hour and I sat on it twice and 103 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: it's not even starting. It's just give up. Let's got 104 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: a full tank. A few and it won't start. And 105 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: it's done four point eight miles. 106 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: It's time to let it go. 107 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: Ben, Yeah, and even charge the party, Okay. 108 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: Like I said, how common are shark attacks in Florida? 109 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: These instances are still extremely rare. Estimates. Estimates range from 110 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: one ready one in two hundred million, Zama. 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: If you're willing to get in the water with them, 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: then I'll keep the kids in the boat. 113 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: What How common is it to get into a motor 114 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: cycle accident? One in a hundred, so I think are 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: our odds. 116 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: But that's why I've not been on the road do it. 117 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: I've not used it, I know. Okay, So why you've 118 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: thrown that at me? 119 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: Because you would rather do that. But yet you won't 120 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: get into a shark. You won't get into an ocean. 121 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: I have not ridden the motorcycle on the roads. 122 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: No, I understand that. I know, But you have a 123 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: motorcycle to ride it. 124 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: Have a motorcycle. 125 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: It's not amasyage, it's not amasy. 126 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: Think of it riding it. Think of it. The thirty 127 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: minutes of freedom. I could have if I actually went out. 128 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: On it, and you have it and it's still a 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: museum in our garage. 130 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: Okay, I just don't. It's like, so I've seen a 131 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: clip the other day. It's like, and it was in Thingers, 132 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: Australia or Thailand. 133 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: We are going to Florida, please please, okay. 134 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: And it was a guy who was what's it called 135 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: when he's tied to a boat and he's got the 136 00:06:52,360 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: parachute parasailing, parasailing, So he has chosen in Thailand to 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: tie himself to a boat with a parachute behind them, right, 138 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: and he's got a little tie. Guy tied Tom even 139 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: know if he has tied to him, but anyway, the 140 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: two of them got up in the air and he 141 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: ends up three hundred meters up in the air. 142 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: And a shark flies three hundred meters there and. 143 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: The panics and unties. He's harness and falls to his death. 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: He has chosen to put his life at risk by 145 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: going on a parachute glider thing. I know, I'm not 146 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: choosing to go in a shock infested water because that 147 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: would put my. 148 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: Life and we're not going in the middle of the 149 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: dark ocean, in the deep, dark blue sea. We are 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: going to a little cove like we did in Italy. 151 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: You've seen what bull sharks hang about? 152 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: Why did you get into the water in Italy? 153 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: The shock? 154 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? It's an ocean. 155 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: We asked every boat driver that we had. Have you 156 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: seen a shop? You ever seen a shock? You ask 157 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: a boat driver in Florida? Have you seen a shot? 158 00:07:59,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: You? 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, ten minutes ago. Mate, guarantee you. 160 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: Not where we're going to be and it's going to 161 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: beautiful and listen. 162 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: I need ordered us some shocks. It's on Amazon. 163 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, listen, I really because you know how jas 164 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: is very sensitive to fun at times, because he's scared 165 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: of certain things. Since that's the fun, you, I'm not 166 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: the one like not wanting to go in the water, 167 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: so uh, I think he'll need that encouragement of not 168 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: being scared to get in the water, if that makes sense. 169 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: Okay, just you see, just before we get in the water, 170 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: just say mommy, go and see your mommy. She's got 171 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: some statistics. Let you feel safe. 172 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: Stop. All right, So today's episode we have we should 173 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: ask the psychic. He's actually a medium medium different have 174 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: you ever been read by a medium. 175 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: I have been read by a medium. Yeah, yeah, I 176 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: think it's mostly psychics that I've been to see. 177 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: You've been do a psychic? Really shocking? 178 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: Really yeah? 179 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't see you as like a believer in that stuff. 180 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: One probably twice a year when I lived in Scotland. 181 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: Her name was Andy and she was excellent. 182 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, and what did she tell you stuff? Okay? 183 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: Did it play out? 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: Actually? That? Yeah? That she was good. But I don't 185 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: know if I've been to a natural medium, but I'm 186 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: looking forward to. 187 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: I love mediums, Jonathan, I I got read by one. 188 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: I have to say my tyler Henry One. Uh, I'd 189 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: have to look think back or re listened to his 190 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: episode because I don't remember. I was on his show 191 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: and somebody else came through for him, and I don't 192 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: know if it was because at that time I had 193 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: just found out about Mike's affair stuff and I had 194 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: this thing for E and I was going to be 195 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: read by him, but like, nothing came to fruition in 196 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: that one, and he picked up one of my other 197 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: old friends that were there, a relative of hers and so. 198 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: But another medium that I had in Nashville, and he 199 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: did cold cases, just like the guy Jonathan mar Set's 200 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: coming on and he's helped solve some yeah, some some 201 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: cold cases. And that's just like that's where I'm like, 202 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: how do people not believe in that? And I know 203 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: there's a big thing with faith, but I also think 204 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: God created these beautiful people to have different to be 205 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: able to connect to. 206 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, so as usual by delve and to 207 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: whoever was coming on, but it's and never know how 208 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 3: the mind of a medium works and what they see, 209 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 3: like if they know that, let's see, your grandmother is 210 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: showing up, then like he was talking to someone about 211 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: the mum, but it's his mum that shows up, so 212 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: therefore he knows, Okay, it's related to a mum, or 213 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: it's an incidant like he was saying to someone. It 214 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: was a newsreader, I think, and he was saying, you're 215 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: really close to your mom because she's almost like right 216 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: in your face, right beside you, So you're close to. 217 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: That's how I'll be to my kids and you right 218 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: in your face. Is there anybody that you hope that 219 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: he brings to or that shows up in our session today? 220 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: I never even thought about that. I don't think he'll 221 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: be I don't think he'll be looking to to bring 222 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: people into the room with us. 223 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: Oh I want someone to come in. Yeah, I never 224 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: got to meet your gran. 225 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well she showed up. 226 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: Then there will be tears. 227 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that will be tears. That's what she camera. 228 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: There'll be more than one strong single tear. Why didn't 229 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: she die. 230 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: Two thousand and three? 231 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: How again? 232 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: Heart attack? 233 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: And she was who you were closest to. Yeah, yeah, 234 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: my your mom? Oh, sweet mom's mom. Yeah, my mom 235 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: is an angel. That's interesting. Yeah, I had I always 236 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: had my grandpa come through in a lot of my sessions. 237 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: I wanted someone else to come through, but his energy 238 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: was too dark, and so he's never come through. And 239 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad that's gone. 240 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: Really Yeah, all right, okay. 241 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: I wanted like a sorry, maybe I don't know, some 242 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: kind of closure. But yeah, he's here. So let's take 243 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: a break and see who shows up. 244 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: I Hello, how are you good? Nice? 245 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: I am Jana. This is my husband Alan. Hello, thank 246 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: you so much for coming on. We're so excited to 247 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: talk to you. 248 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: Likewise, thank you for having me. I'm really excited. 249 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: Where are you? 250 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: Where do you. Where are you based New York? 251 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: Oh? 252 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: Okay, great, we love New York. 253 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 4: New York is awesome. Are you guys in California or 254 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: like La Area? 255 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: We used to be, but now we live in Franklin, Tennessee. 256 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 4: Oh nice. I feel like that's been like a huge thing, 257 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 4: like everyone leaving Los Angeles or and just like kind 258 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: of scattering to like Miami or Vancouver or wherever everything, 259 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: Like we just left. We hated there, We're out. 260 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, after well before COVID. Yeah, I 261 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: was just I like this way of living. And then 262 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: he came from England, Scotland to England and then to Nashville. 263 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: So I pulled him over. 264 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: I feel looking. I feel looking to know your house. 265 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: I've watched so many of your videos this morning. If 266 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: you'l looking know the background of your kitchen and you'll 267 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: you study And. 268 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 4: It's my mom's house. 269 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 270 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: I just bought a house last year with my wife 271 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 4: and we're about fifteen twenty minutes away. Because when we 272 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: start having kids, I want my parents to be like 273 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: kind of you know, they're and heelpful because you're like 274 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: all the help I can kind of get. And my 275 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: wife works from home and she's like, get the hell 276 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: out and like go to your mom's house because I 277 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: need the house to myself. So every video everything I 278 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: do my mom's house. 279 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: So that's crazy. Yeah, he was. He was showing me 280 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: some videos earlier today and I'm just every video I 281 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: was like, I just got chills, chills after chills, after chills. 282 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was showing another one where you were speaking 283 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: to a lady and unfortunately I think her dogs come 284 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: through and she had been set on fire by a 285 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: father figure or biological father yep. And I just like 286 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: like you. I was like wow, like and how did you? 287 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: How did you get into that kind of colde case? 288 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: So that always intrigues me. We watched so many TV 289 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: shows on things. 290 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: We were just watching Into the Fire last night. 291 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so. 292 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: And then can I also just asked too, like when 293 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: did this? When did you first? Is it a feeling? 294 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: Is it a vision? Is it a body thing? Like what? What? 295 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: How old were you? And like what was that moment too? 296 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: So when I first, like I guess you could say, 297 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: like brought up this gift when I was a child. 298 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: I was probably about four or five, my my mom 299 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: sister passed away, my aunt Susan or my aunt Sue, 300 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: and she passed when I was six months old, so 301 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: I didn't really like really know her or like have 302 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: a relationship with her or whatever, just because I was 303 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: so young. And you know, just like most families, people 304 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: have pictures of their loved ones that have like passed away. 305 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: And my mom was best friends with her, so she 306 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: would always like talk about her to like my family 307 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: myself growing up. So one day it was Easter Sunday, 308 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: my mom tells the story to everyone because she's like 309 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: it freaked the entire family out, where everyone didn't speak 310 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: to each old for like a solid like thirty minutes 311 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: because they were like, what the hell just happened type 312 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: of thing. So my grandfather, her father, when he was living, 313 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 4: I walked up to him and I was like, oh, 314 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: and Susie's here, and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, 315 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 4: you know, very like old school type of guy, and 316 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: I go, no, she and I was wearing I'm sure 317 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: you know you guys know this the double jean shirt 318 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: with the pants. My mom used to wear me like 319 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: the Canadian tuxedo thing. So I kept pulling on this 320 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: on my shirt, being like Susie's wearing this, Susie's wearing this, 321 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: like trying to say that she's wearing a denim jacket. 322 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: My grandfather goes, the hell's this kid talking about the 323 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: hell's's kid talking about my mom and her other sister, 324 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: like we're sitting there. So my other aunt was like, 325 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: I have no idea what he's talking about. My mom 326 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: comes in, like she saw like a ghost, like white, pale, whatever, 327 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: and my grandfather was like, why do you look like this? 328 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: And she's like, well, when the surface was over, like 329 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: when everyone went to cars to go to the cemetery 330 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: to follow the casket and everything, my mom walked back 331 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: in and put a jean jacket in the casket like 332 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 4: where she was because they were best friends. They lived together, 333 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: and there's a jean jacket that they would steal back 334 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: and forth from each other. So she wanted to have 335 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: a very intimate moment with just her sister. She didn't 336 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: want her other sister or her parents to know. She 337 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 4: just wanted to be her thing. So I guess for 338 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 4: like thirty minutes, people didn't speak, and like I was 339 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: a kid, so I went outside and I was like 340 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: chasing the Easter eggs and you know, continuing my day, 341 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: and I guess everyone was just like super quiet and 342 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 4: like didn't really understand it. And then when I was 343 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 4: getting older, like I was seeing things about my family 344 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 4: that I don't think someone should know about their family, 345 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: like very intimate personal things from people that passed away 346 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: coming through, like acknowledging and apologizing for like sexual assault 347 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 4: and things like that, and I didn't really understand what 348 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: it was. So like when it was coming through, I 349 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: didn't really get it, so I didn't think too much 350 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: of it. And plus I wanted to be like a 351 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: normal kid, So I was like, like I was wrestling 352 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: football like everything, and I wanted to stay on that 353 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: track of like normal because what I was seeing and 354 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 4: feeling not everyone. I realized that certain age was like 355 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 4: my friends. I didn't want to be like a weirdo 356 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: to my friends and to my coaches and to anything. 357 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: So another weird thing is before I went to college, 358 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: my and Sue went to the same college that I 359 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: committed to the play lacrosse at. So I committed there 360 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: because my dad played rugby there my and my aunt 361 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 4: Sue was there, and before I left, I turned to 362 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 4: my mom and I goes their mental illness in the family, 363 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 4: like I feel like I'm mentally off, like I have schizophrenia, 364 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 4: Like I don't really know what's going on, because I 365 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: didn't have anyone to really validate what was going on 366 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: if I was either going crazy or if it was 367 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: luck what I said with certain things like no one 368 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: really validated that for me, and she said no, And 369 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: then it just so happened that someone like another medium 370 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 4: validated for me. And from there, my mom just brought 371 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: friends that I've never met before when I was home 372 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 4: from college to practice and I didn't tell any of 373 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 4: my friends. I didn't tell anyone. And then after that 374 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: I was going to be a police officer. So I 375 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: went through the NYPD academy. I went through everything, and 376 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: a high level homicide detective pulled me aside and the 377 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: chief at the time and was like, you should go 378 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 4: home and be able to come home every night, and 379 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: you should be able to not worry that if you 380 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: step on the street someone's going to shoot you, Like 381 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 4: we'll use you when we seem like it's fit to 382 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: use you on these unsolved cases. So what I found 383 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: out recently from like the FBI and like all these 384 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 4: people that I've worked with was they were sending people 385 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: to me to see throughout the years until they thought 386 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: I was ready. So they would send people pretending to 387 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 4: be someone else, and they would actually be bringing people on. 388 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 4: And I was working on cases I didn't even really 389 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: know about until later on, so they were coming through, 390 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 4: and just the Long Island serial killer case I was 391 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: pulled on in twenty seventeen from doing it. And it's 392 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: just like all this stuff, and that's how I got 393 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: involved in the in like the police work and and 394 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: everything from those two high level officers. 395 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: Hope they your money then, So I. 396 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: Don't charge them. I don't charge them at all. I 397 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 4: don't charge anytime I work on an unsolved or anything. 398 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: I don't charge any of Like I don't charge the state. 399 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: I do because I want to help the family, because 400 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: when they come to me, I'm their last option, I'm 401 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 4: not their first, so it's like I want to be 402 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: able to try my best to help them. So I 403 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 4: don't charge. 404 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: How many cases have you helped solve? 405 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 4: By by solving it's just I helped them turn a 406 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 4: corner or keep a case open. But probably at this 407 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 4: point close to like seventy five hundred. 408 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: Like seventy five hundred. 409 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you look at my emails right now, helps 410 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: from parents that I wanted the name of the case 411 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: because it's active. But I helped turn a suicide into 412 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: a homicide with the DA like recently, so wow, yeah, 413 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: Like well that that gave me chills. Like when they 414 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: called me and they told me, I like didn't know 415 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 4: how to take it because that was that was the 416 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: first time that I was able to turn a suicide 417 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: to a homicide, and I like freaked myself out and 418 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: I had to go for a long run. I was like, 419 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: I need to like clear my head, like this is 420 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 4: a little nutty. 421 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask too, Like what 422 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 2: do you do to get out from because is it 423 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: like are people constantly coming to you? Or do you 424 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: sit in a space and is there like a ritual 425 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: you do to you know, have these people come in? 426 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: Like what is that? 427 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: So I learned to ignore it, so like basically all 428 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: the time. I guess you can say people will come 429 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 4: like through or try to like come through. But if 430 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: I let it kind of if I talk to every 431 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: person about it, when when I'm out, I'm gonna be 432 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 4: burnt out, drained, like I'm it's not gonna like I'm 433 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: not gonna be helpful for whoever wants a reading or 434 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 4: for like an unsolve. So I learned to kind of 435 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: just like ignore or just like try to live everyday 436 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: life like everyday life. So I go for like a 437 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 4: lot of runs. I play. I know it's gonna sound silly, 438 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: but I play volleyball with the NYPD guys. 439 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: Volleyball. Yeah, you're gonna say video games, and I'm like, I'm. 440 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: Literally going tonight to play indoor volleyball with them. And 441 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: it's just like I try to do as like much 442 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 4: normal stuff, but my phone rings a lot, and it's 443 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: always like like police officers or FBI or whoever, because 444 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 4: they don't want to kind of gear me to what's 445 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: going on. They want to like kind of like take 446 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: me off guard shock me. They don't want me to 447 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 4: know about a case because if they tell me a case, 448 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: it's human nature to look up a case. I mean 449 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: like if they're like there's a huge case, like look 450 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 4: it up. Most of the time they don't tell me. 451 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 4: They're like we have ten minutes go like that go, 452 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: and then I rattle it off and then they hang 453 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: up In a month later, I hear the progress because 454 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: I don't hear it in real. 455 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: Time because this is gonna be it's only because we 456 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: just watched it, but we watched Monsters, the Mendez Brother's story, 457 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: Like do you ever just like sit and be like 458 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: all right, like come to me whatever that dad was, 459 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: and be like what was the truth in that? And 460 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: then would you ever call and be like hey, they 461 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: they for sure did it or they for sured itdn't 462 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: like is it like. 463 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, does that ever happen? So a couple of times yeah, Like. 464 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to say. 465 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: I guess the Brian Coburger case was one of them. 466 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: The Utah four when the kid went into the house 467 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 4: and did horrible things to the girls in the in 468 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: the house and there's two survivor girls. I think it 469 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: was No, it's not Utah, it was Idaho, the Idaho 470 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: for So they were saying stuff and I called them 471 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: and out because I was seeing it all over TikTok 472 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 4: because like people start blasting things on social media and 473 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: then it gets all these millions of like views and 474 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: stuff and I'm like, that's not it, Like, don't pay 475 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 4: attention to this, Like I'll do that to them because 476 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: people love true crime. I guess I didn't even know 477 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 4: it was like such a big thing, like until recently 478 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: in the last year. Probably, Well, like. 479 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: You can't like specifically go to like it. I guess 480 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, like you can't look at like some people 481 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: might not come up like for that, like you might 482 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: not feel anything from that situation, like the Mendez or 483 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: oj or Oh yeah. 484 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 4: Does that make no, No, it does. I would need 485 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: to sit with someone who was probably either very close 486 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: to the case with it family because like a huge 487 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 4: super fan, like when be able to validate like very 488 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: intimate personal things. 489 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: Sure, okay, that makes sense. So you have to have 490 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: the connection of at least the person to have that 491 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: person come through. 492 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like and like that's why I try not to 493 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: talk so much about others, Like when like people reach 494 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: out to me, like can you do this case? It's 495 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: like it I could, but who can really validate it 496 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: besides like the family or the detectives or the pis 497 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: or who whoever? 498 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: How long how long do you need to spend with 499 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: someone or how long do you need to be dialed 500 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: in that conversation or that person and all the things 501 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: to start to come through. 502 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: So for like a significant like to get stuff, probably 503 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: twenty and twenty five minutes, I would probably say only 504 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: because really the FBI and like the police train me 505 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: to go fast, like because I typically I would have 506 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 4: spent more time, like a forty five minute period, because 507 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: my whole thing would to give the family closure first 508 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 4: and then go into the case because I don't want 509 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 4: to just start drilling stuff down their throat. That's not 510 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: how I do things. But I've learned to kind of 511 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 4: give the closure very quickly and fast with stuff and 512 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 4: then go right into the case because the police they 513 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: don't want to wait, like they want to go and 514 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 4: they're so probably twenty five minutes, I'll probably say for 515 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: a shorter answer, sorry for going. 516 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: And that's forlick a taking cold cases to say, if 517 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 3: that's just someone that comes to you that wants a 518 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: standard reading on family members or I mean, how long 519 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: do you need to sit with them in order for 520 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: things to start to come through to you? 521 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: Well, it initially starts pretty fast, but I spend about 522 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 4: forty five minutes to an hour with like a normal 523 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 4: like not like a cold case. Right, I try to 524 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: do as much for them as I can. 525 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: Just have this vision of you walking in the streets 526 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: in New York and like people walking past, and you 527 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: get connected to that person, and our person walks past, 528 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: connected to that person, and just constantly things coming up. 529 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: Always, it's literally always like that is it? 530 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: Really? 531 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 532 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: Is your wife? Is she? How did? How did you 533 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: tell her this? Because I imagine at first it would 534 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: have been like wait. 535 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: What yeah, So that's actually a funny story. We just 536 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 4: got married to two weeks ago, thank you, thank you. 537 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: So basically I had a relationship before her and the 538 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 4: girl that's when I start going out to like LA 539 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: and stuff. Really, so I was starting to read like 540 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: public figures and stuff. And then she, you know, was 541 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: really enamored by that life. And I didn't like how 542 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: that situation turned. So when we you know, broke up 543 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: or whatever, I said that I would wait to tell 544 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: someone until I knew that they liked me for me 545 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: and not like I go to LA and I could 546 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: be around people for readings specifically and stuff. So it 547 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: just so happened that when we first met and we 548 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: were going on because we met her in COVID, so 549 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: we were sitting outside in like the space things where 550 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 4: like you can only get food. You can't get drinks, 551 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: so it had to be like a sit down dinner 552 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 4: in New York. And there was a curfew at like 553 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: eleven thirty at night, so you had to get thirty 554 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 4: eight and leave by eleven thirty. But basically she would 555 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: hear calls from like the DA's office, the FBI, so 556 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 4: she thought I worked in law enforcement. So I didn't 557 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: really say too much. I just wanted to see where 558 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: things would go before I'm like, I'm a medium, Like 559 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 4: this is what I do. Eventually I told her like 560 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: once we made it official, I told her immediately after. 561 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: And then she was like, prove it. That's literally what 562 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 4: she said. She said, prove it. So I had to 563 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: prove it to her. And I brought in a family 564 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: member that she's never spoken about. Her family does not 565 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: speak about because of religious things, and she was hysterically crying. 566 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: And then the entire night, we're watching TV, and I 567 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: could feel her just like staring at me kind of, 568 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 4: so I would turn my head and I would be like, 569 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: is everything good? And she's like I just don't get it. 570 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: Like she's like I don't get it. And now she's 571 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 4: like my biggest supporter and she's like, you know, the best, 572 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: but she doesn't even work in the entertainment side. She 573 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: works for alcohol, like an alcohol company. So it's like 574 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: very different. 575 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 2: So yeah, suppressing yeah, emotion. 576 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 4: A little bit. 577 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: It's also I feel like it could be hard to 578 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: because there's so many critics out there, yeah, and either 579 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: judgment or people saying I know someone that is just 580 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: like that is just a load of bs and that's 581 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: not true. But I'm like, how can people say that, 582 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: I maybe find psychics. Maybe there's a piece of that 583 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: where there's a lot of people out there that are 584 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: just you have a grandpa that died, well, no shit, 585 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm forty like you know, so I think there's there's 586 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: pieces of maybe people that do that for entertainment that 587 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: are false. Is that Is that okay fair to say? 588 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 589 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you're solving cold cases and mediums, I 590 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: don't know. I just I find it very different and 591 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: more believable than a psychic same or no, yeah, absolutely. 592 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I see people obviously that you know, I 593 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: always call like a cold reading where they ask you 594 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: the questions and you kind of respond with, like, you know, 595 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 4: for example, it's like did you lose a grandparent and 596 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: someone is so desperate and vulnerable they're like, oh my god, 597 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: yes or like whatever, and then they kind of feed 598 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: off of off of that. I do the I only 599 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: tell people say like really yes or no, like if 600 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: it like that's all I really need, I guess, because 601 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: or just don't say anything. A lot of people don't 602 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: say anything. They just sit there and stare at me, 603 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: which is like also pretty uncomfortable for me because I 604 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: could feel them staring at me, but like, you know, 605 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 4: just like a little uncomfortable. But I definitely think the 606 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: unsolved stuff in the in the validation from like law 607 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: enforcement and you know, people see it and stuff that 608 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: makes it more believable for people to come to me, 609 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: I guess because of that law enforcement aspect of it 610 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: versus like when you walk down forty second Street and 611 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: you see like tarot cards and psychic stuff, yeah or whatever. 612 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you've had hard relationships, Well again no, but yeah, 613 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: the medium stuff, that's where I'm like, all right, and 614 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: I've had I've been read by different mediums. I was saying, 615 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: like Tyler Henry's read me. And I had a guy 616 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: in Nashville who also does some unsolved mystery stuff, and 617 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, some things are ended up being right, some 618 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: things you know, we're miles off. But also you know 619 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: it's I feel like there's closure in a beautiful thing 620 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: that you do helping people have that peace and that Yeah, 621 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: that closure. 622 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: Yes, it's such a gift. Yeah, you've been given such 623 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: a such a powerful gift. Do you have a Do 624 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: you ever get situations where you've you've done a reading 625 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: with someone, and maybe I would amass. I would imagine 626 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: it's like most people, you have good days at work 627 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: and you have bad days at work where you feel well, 628 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: that reading went really well, one didn't quite go so well. 629 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: Do you ever get situations where the reading is finished 630 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: and then maybe later that day something comes up from 631 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: it and you have to go back to the person 632 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: and say, listen, this has come up or I feel 633 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: that you really need to know this, or whether it's 634 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: an hour later or two days, three days, four days later, 635 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: does that happen sometimes? 636 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? Like U Sometimes people I think have expectations when 637 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 4: they come to readings and stuff, Like people will want 638 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: to hear from very specific people. If that specific person 639 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: doesn't come through and someone else comes through, they feel 640 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 4: that their reading is a failure because they were hoping 641 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: to hear from a specific person. But there's times where 642 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: I would do a reading and an hour or two 643 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 4: or a day or whatever the timeframe is typically within 644 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 4: like a week, I will probably say something comes through 645 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: and I have my mom does my appointment. I would 646 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 4: have to tell my mom to reach out to them 647 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: and be like can you just let them know this? 648 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: And then they're like, oh my god, that's what we've 649 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: been thinking about, thank you so much. Like So there 650 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: are times I think when there's like a failure or whatever, 651 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 4: just be honest, it's when people want to hear from 652 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: someone specific and that person doesn't come through as strong 653 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: as someone else does, and you can tell at the 654 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: end that they're not thrilled, like like but which which saw? 655 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 4: Because then they miss the entire point of the reading 656 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: because most of the time, in like a reading, if 657 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: someone comes through, there's a reason why, and there's like 658 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: all these messages as like a reason why they specifically 659 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: came through versus someone else. But you know, I try 660 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: my best to appease people, so like at the end, 661 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 4: I'm like, do you have any questions like did I 662 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: hit who you wanted to hear? From like, I want 663 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: to make sure because I want to make everyone happy 664 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 4: as much as I can with this. 665 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: How do you deal with things emotionally when you have 666 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 3: to be if someone comes through and you know that 667 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: it is really really going to affect a person that 668 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: you're reading for and it's maybe a really horrendous traumatic 669 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: thing like the bunding of the little Girl? How do 670 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: you deal with these things emotionally as are sometimes that 671 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: you just think, you know what, I can't tell this 672 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: person this because it looks like it could break them 673 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: or kill them. 674 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So in the beginning, when I first started doing 675 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: this with in the public and like things like very heavy, 676 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: I would not really say and then I would find 677 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 4: out later on that people were like, we want to 678 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 4: hear that because we need that closure of it. It 679 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 4: might sting at first, but it helps us in the 680 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: long run. So basically what I do is I won't 681 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 4: say something in jam it down their throat, Like that's 682 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 4: not how I am and that's not how I will 683 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 4: ever probably be, because I'm a human and I would 684 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 4: not want someone to do that to me when it 685 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 4: comes to that. So I try my best to like 686 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 4: slowly build into it and to kind of like brace 687 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: them for it, and then I tell them, I go, 688 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: this is going to be intense. If you want me 689 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: to skip over it, tell me immediately and I will 690 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 4: and if not, I will keep going. And most of 691 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: the time they say to tell me. But that specific 692 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 4: reading was tough because it was a like domestic thing, 693 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 4: so it was a very tough thing, like a tough reading. 694 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: I remember. 695 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, since we've had almost like twenty twenty 696 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: five minutes, has anything come up for you? 697 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: I knew you. That's that. 698 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: You can say no too, you can no. 699 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 4: No. I cracked my neck and I close my eyes 700 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: not to be weird or anything. I also stare off. 701 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: It's okay. My one medium was holding a crystal and no. 702 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: No, I don't do that. I just stare off just 703 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: because I don't want to go off of people's reactions. 704 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 4: So I just like completely stare off. But it's funny 705 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 4: you bring up the like grandparent thing, but you know, 706 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 4: like is there a Robbert in someone like a grandfather 707 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 4: named Robert or Bob? 708 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 2: No, But now we got to find out who Maybe 709 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: Sarah's downstairs, Maybe Sarah's got a Robert or Bob. 710 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 4: Well, who's the end name. Who's living with an end name? 711 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: Who's living? 712 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's with like an end name, not like a 713 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 4: normal like Nicholas. It's a female. So who's living with an. 714 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: N name that's alive? 715 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 4: That's alive, Yes, like an n own name. They keep 716 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 4: putting n O in. 717 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 2: Front of me Norah, but it's not. It's not a grandparent. 718 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: It's a Bob that keeps coming through. I don't know 719 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: if it's a grandparent for on of you guys, because 720 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 4: I don't want to be mean. But the guy is 721 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 4: pretty old, happy guy. He comes, he comes through older 722 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 4: to me, but his name is Robert or Bob or something, 723 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: and he keeps he keeps playing like a harmonica or 724 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 4: like something in his mouth, like a like an. 725 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: Instagram play the harmonica. But that was Grandpa, Jim James. 726 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: I don't think this has to do with you too, 727 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 4: like as far as like family and the reason I 728 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 4: try to stay awayte because you guys are probably public figures, 729 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: so like you can google things, so I try to 730 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 4: go like past that or whatever. Do you have Nora's number? 731 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: By chance? 732 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: My mom's a number. 733 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 4: Oh that's your mom? Yeah? Yeah, ask her who Bob is? 734 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 2: Then I mean, we have an uncle Bob, but he's 735 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: very much alive and causing just so much turmoil family. 736 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 4: It's someone who passed away in July, because he keeps 737 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: flashing my aunt who passed away in July. 738 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: I mean, my grandpa passed away in July. That's his dad. 739 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: But his name wasn't Bob. His name is James. 740 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 4: Is Bob related to him? 741 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, my uncle Bob, but he's alive right, okay? 742 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 4: And who played the harmonica and all that stuff, my 743 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 4: grandpa and who was like a jokester and my grandpa 744 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 4: and who also like this is very random because my 745 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 4: family out of this country does this, like, so please 746 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 4: don't judge me on this when I say this. Do 747 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 4: you know people that do stuff with rugs and stuff 748 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 4: like they make rugs or they do things with rugs. 749 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 4: My great grandfather did that in Austria. Oh wow, not 750 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 4: saying that that's like what it is, but they keep 751 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 4: like flipping rugs in front of me, showing me that stuff. 752 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: So interesting. Yeah, Well, to get to the bottom. 753 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 4: Of this, please do and please let me know who. 754 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: Well, for sure we'll come back on your show. 755 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 4: Yes, please do. That'd be awesome. 756 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: Because I think there's someone that maybe would want to 757 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: come out and say hello to Alan. 758 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 3: Who knows, maybe one. 759 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 4: Day I could do it privately for you too, Okay, 760 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: And if you have to be private and stuff, because 761 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 4: I know a lot of people wanted to, I know 762 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 4: a lot of people like that stuff to be private. 763 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course I love that. 764 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, you are fantastic. 765 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you really are. 766 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 2: You really are, and I am you know, I'm excited 767 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: for the for the long read. We should definitely do 768 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 2: it and then we'll be able to tell people what happened. 769 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 770 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what a lot of people do. They always 771 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 4: like want to do it off camera and then they 772 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 4: come on and they talk about it because there's things 773 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 4: that people want to share in people, things that they 774 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 4: don't want people to know about certain things, I guess people. 775 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. 776 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: Well, congratulations on your success, and you do it with 777 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 3: such a nice mona around you, like you have a 778 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 3: real respect for the situations that you work with. Then 779 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 3: so yeah, I admi ale that a lot. Congratulations, Thank 780 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: you so much. I love that. 781 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you so much, appreciating. Where can our 782 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 2: listeners find you? 783 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 4: Jonathan Mark medium on my Instagram and my new podcast, 784 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 4: Connect with Jonathan Mark. I just had Gabby Patito's mom on, so. 785 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, wow wow yeah. All right, well thank 786 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: you and we'll be on soon then cool, all right, 787 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: thanks bye, gods my mom, it's the bottom of this. 788 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 2: My mom just said, just Texer. Oh my god, I 789 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 2: just Texert and I said, whose name is bod? That's dead? 790 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 2: What did you get hacked? It is interesting. 791 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 3: I mean you, Leslie read for a couple of minutes. 792 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 3: I mean, he would be incredible to setting list for sure. 793 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 2: Would you do it? 794 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, without doubt. 795 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: That would just be heavy. I mean, think about the 796 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 2: amount of thoughts that we have in our brain all 797 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 2: the time, and then add that on top of it. 798 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 3: And then other people, Yeah, thought that's a lot. 799 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: Well oh shoot, I mean, I guess we couldn't have 800 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: asked him about the sharks. But it's going to be great. 801 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: Everything's gonna be fine, and we're gonna I'm so excited 802 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 2: to share a fun little family pick from the water. 803 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 3: Am I gonna come back from Florida with both Lemonons 804 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 3: and tych. 805 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 2: Stay tuned, go listen to Connect with Jonathan Mark. 806 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: Now that was so good. 807 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 4: I loved him. 808 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 2: Wait, do you have a Robert or a Bob? 809 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 4: Oh? 810 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: That's my god, I I do. I have an uncle 811 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: Bob and he died in July. I wasn't even thinking this, 812 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: say wait, you guys. I literally was sitting he died 813 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: in July. It wasn't this year, but he died in July, 814 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: and have chills. Oh my god. I wasn't thinking about 815 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: myself at all. I need to ask my mom if 816 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: and he was total jokester. I need to ask my mom. 817 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: Play Harmonica to ask my mom. 818 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm freaking out. 819 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm just start crying. 820 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: He literally Robert is his name, and he went by 821 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: uncle Bob. I'm actually like freaking. 822 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 2: Out, Sydney. 823 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm like literally shaking. 824 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 2: Holy crap. That's so crazy. See it always comes through 825 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: with like other people, you know, even uncle Bob that 826 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 2: died in July. 827 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I wonder who it is. Like, Wow, 828 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: he seems like like he knows like all this kind 829 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: of stuff. I was like, I can't. I was like, 830 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: can't wait for your mom to respond. And I was 831 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: sitting here, not even licking the pieces together. 832 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 3: You have to talk to your mom out them on 833 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: Instagram because I've been stalking them the home an then anyway, Yeah, 834 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 3: tell I'm telling the news. 835 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: Yeah seriously, because my mom's like, clearly it wasn't my 836 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: which is sad. I would have loved to say how 837 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: to my grandpa, But I mean, how cool is that 838 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,479 Speaker 2: your uncle Bob? 839 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm gonna cry. That's insane. 840 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: All right, We'll stay tuned for Sydney's updates.