1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, everybody, 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre. Wednesday, September ninth, one day away 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: from the start of the NFL season. It's been a 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: great week so far on Straight Fire, only getting better. 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Felt really good to get back in the win column 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: in the Best Bet now fourteen four and one. I 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: will have the pick for tonight at the end of 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: the podcast, and yes, of course on Friday, we will 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: blow out NFL Week one faux show. We'll go heavy 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: into that. Remember, subscribe, rate and review, tell all your friends, 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: and let's get down to the fun stuff. I'm not 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: gonna start with the Lakers, who had an awesome victory. 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: Lebron was phenomenal playoff Rondo showed up as enticing as 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: it is to start with Lebron and the Lakers. I'm 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: gonna start with another NBA story and we have a 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: great guest coming up later in the podcast, Will Blackman, 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: former NFL player, and there's a little bit of a 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: theme to this podcast. We talk about relationships in life 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: and how they matter and in sports, and how his 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: career had a lot to do with relationships, even to 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: his now wine business. And getting on TV. It's really 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: phenomenal stuff. I think you guys will enjoy it. But 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: what I want to talk about is loyalty. Okay, Loyalty 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: matters in life big time. It's one of those old 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: fashioned values, right you're there for the guys who got 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: you there. And I have a friend who's actually going 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: through some tough stuff right now, a college buddy. We 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: were never boys, but we are friends, you know. He 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: was with our crew. We texted and I saw on Facebook, 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: of course on Facebook that you know, it appeared some 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: tough stuff was going on in his family life, and 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: I immediately reached out, you know, and I wanted to 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: see if I could help in any way, shape or form. 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of the country, and it 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: wasn't really anything I could do, but I certainly extended 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: a hand and made a couple of our friends who 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: are local to him aware of it. And you want 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: to be there for people who got you there or 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: who were there with you early. But in sports, it's 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: totally different. Here's how you need to look at loyalty 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: in sports. Okay, there is no loyalty in sports. That's 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: a fact, folks. And we're seeing Yannis at Tenakumpo, the 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: now two time NBA MVP. He's acting out of emotions 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: in the bubble. I'm sure you guys saw this story. 45 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: It broke late on Tuesday night. Okay, Yannis talked to 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: Chris Haynes in the bubble. Chris Haynes, I believe of Yahoo. Yes, 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: he also freelances for a million places. Chris Haynes's great reporter. 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: And Yannis essentially comes out and it's saying, yeah, yeah, hey, 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: don't make a run at me. I'm not going anywhere. 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: I want to stick around in Milwaukee. We've got unfinished 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: business here. And I was stunned reading these quotes, because 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: for Yannis to say, you know, he could hold the 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: Bucks hostage and say hey, trade me. He came out 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: and said it's not happening. That's not happening. Some see 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: a wall and go in the other direction. I plow 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: through it. And I'm sorry, Jannis, this is a terrible decision. Now, 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: I will say, I'm certain he's acting out of emotion. 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: The Bucks just got dusted by the heat in five 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: the Gentleman's sweep. Giannis did not play in Game five 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: with the injured ankle, but Jiannis has said he's excited 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: to get back at it next season. I'm sure he's 62 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna say the same. What do you expect him to say? 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Do you really think Jiannis is gonna come out and 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: be like, Yo, I'm done. We had a good ride. 65 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Trade me. He's not gonna do that. Come on. The 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: reason loyalty doesn't exist in sports is because players have options, 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: and just because someone drafted you seven years ago, that 68 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you need to be loyal to them. You're 69 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: not a slave to the team that took you seven 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: years ago. Forever. I've been consistent on this, Okay, I said, 71 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: lewis smart Lebron to leave and bounce from Cleveland. He 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: gave them ample opportunity to build a title can tender 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: around him. They couldn't do it Kevin Durant, same deal. 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: And okay, see, I applauded the move. I said it 75 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: was smart. And I know people are getting angry listening 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: to this and saying, but yay, hey, hey, he should 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: stick with them. What about and this is the cheapest refrain? 78 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: What about magic and Larry and Michael Jordan And I 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: always laugh at that because I've talked about this ad 80 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: nauseum on FS one on my radio show, different era, 81 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: different times for you to bring up Magic Johnson getting 82 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: drafted by the Lakers, which at the time was one 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: of the golden franchises in the league, and Larry Bird 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: to get drafted by the Celtics, which was the premier 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: franchise in the NBA, they had won the most titles. 86 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: That's silly. You get drafted by the best. Obviously they're 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: gonna put the best players around you. And the Lakers 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: instantly did it. Okay, And then oh, Jason, what about Jordan? Okay, Yeah, 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: let's go back thirty years to when Michael Jordan was 90 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: a free agent in the late eighties. And I'm sure 91 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: you haven't done the homework. You're just saying, well, he's 92 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: stuck around. No, they were a set. They had added 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen, they gave Michael Jordan the coach he wonted 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: Doug Collins. They gave him everything. He was happy. They 95 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: were ascending. And remember within two years they were able 96 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: to overtake the Pistons and the Jordan rules and get 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: to the finals. But Michael Jordan was at the top 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: of the league when he was a free agent, and 99 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: nobody left. Back then, it was unheard of to bail 100 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: on the team that drafted you. Fast forward thirty years, 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: we're in the player empowerment era, folks. The players have 102 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: all the power in the NBA, and Giannis especially has 103 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: power and he should exert it. I'm telling you to 104 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks fans listening to this podcast. When Lebron James 105 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: looks around that Lakers locker room, he's saying, we got 106 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: a title team. When Kawhi Leonard looks around that Clippers 107 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: locker room, we've got a title team, and those guys 108 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: primarily built it. When Giannis looks around the Bucks locker room, 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: Eric Bledsoe, he's thirty. Eric bledsay, is he a money player? 110 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: George Hill is thirty four, Kyle Korver's thirty nine, Brook 111 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: Lopez thirty two, Wes Matthews thirty three years old. Uh, 112 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, this kind of looks like an 113 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: old team. They got run off the court by a young, spry, 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: exciting Miami Heat team. I don't really think this is 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: a decision for Giannis. They took a step back. They 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: were in the Eastern Conference finals last year. Led Kawhi's 117 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Raptors two oh, and then they gagged it away. And 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: I know the regular season was great, And yeah, it 119 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: would probably be a bad look if Lebron if Jannis 120 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: went to Bucks management and said, hey, hey, you know what, 121 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: trade me? I want out? Yeah, that would be a 122 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: bad look. You want to give it one more chance, 123 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: find but do not sign that super Maxianis. That would 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: be terrible because you might end up like one of 125 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: these guys like Charles Barkley on TV, Charles Barkley ripping everybody? 126 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: What did Charles Barkley win? Shack Scott rings? He's next 127 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: to him, Kenny Smith has rings. Do you want to 128 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: be a guy who wins championships or do you want 129 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: to be a guy who puts up great stats and 130 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: win MVP awards? Russell Westbrook he's got an MVP, so 131 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: does James Harden. Don't you think they would trade that 132 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: in a heartbeat for a title? And and you know, 133 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: just we'll talk about Harden in a sec. But I mean, 134 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: this is a no brainer for Yannis Bucks. I'm happy 135 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: with what we've built. We've got it together. Maybe the 136 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: pandemic screwed up our rotations, our flow. We were rolling 137 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: let's give it one more chance. But I'm not signing 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: the super Max. And if they say, well, listen, y honest, 139 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: we can't proceed without a commitment because we don't want 140 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: you to leave us high and dry. Well, you know, 141 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I gotta do what I gotta do, and you guys 142 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta do. I mean, it's that simple. 143 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: That's Janness is not gonna come out looking like a 144 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: bad guy. Nobody's gonna think he abandoned Milwaukee. Loyalty does 145 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: not exist in sports right now, especially not the NBA. 146 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Yannis has to do what's best for Yannis if he 147 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: wants the rings. I think you gotta bounce. I think 148 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: you look hard at the Miami Heat. I think you 149 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: look hard at Dallas Mavericks. I don't know about the 150 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors. Some people think they are in the mix here. 151 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Brian Windhorse came on here and pumped up the Raptors. 152 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't know about that roster. Lowry's getting old, guests 153 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: holes getting old. But you got to explore the options 154 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: and see what's out there. I mean, listen, a year, 155 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: A lot of things can happen in a year, Remember, folks, 156 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: and I'll put a bow on it with this. A 157 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: year ago, everybody thought, oh, well, well Giannis has taken 158 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: over the East, this is his league. It's a rap 159 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, MVP. He's dominant. Look at the Bucks, they 160 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: were ascending. And once again one year later and it's 161 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: a ton of question marks about Giannis and the Bucks. 162 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: All right, quickly, let's move to the Lakers, because we 163 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: have to talk about you know, obviously Lebron James, who 164 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: was pretty phenomenal. I gotta say I took a lot 165 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: of glee watching that game. Lakers win by ten, Lebron 166 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: thirty six points twenty nine. In the first half. The 167 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: first half was all Lebron blocking shots, dunking threes. I 168 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: think he hit a Curry three where he shot it, 169 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: it was from the top of the arc. He knew 170 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: it was going in and he turned his head and 171 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: I tried to rewind, but I was putting the kids 172 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: to bed, and I didn't get video of it. But 173 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: Lebron was just in the zone. But the second half 174 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: is what's interesting. And you know, Rob g made a 175 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: point in the podcast earlier this week to say Lakers 176 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: in five, and he might have been saying it in jest, 177 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: But what I saw in that second half was utter 178 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: domination from the Lakers, and it did look like the 179 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Lakers could wipe them off the floor in five. Here's 180 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: a stat that is terrifying if you're a Rockets fan. 181 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Game two, they shot over forty percent from three. Houston 182 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: did and they took the loss. The first time all 183 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: season they had shot over forty percent from three and lost. 184 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: They shot forty percent from three in Game three, right 185 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: on the dot, forty percent, and they lost. Like they're 186 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: they're playing their game, They're losing. Westbrook, who I said 187 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: would bounce back. Westbrook was solid. Thirty points, eight rebounds, 188 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: six assists or turnovers, were cut down two out of 189 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: four from deep. He was a minus fourteen. The Lakers 190 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: are still gonna give Russ whatever he wants. I listen. 191 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Harden had thirty three, but I think the problem with 192 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: the Rockets. Harden had twenty one at the half, eight 193 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: of sixteen in the second half. The Lakers JaVale McGee 194 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: did not play in the second half. He did start 195 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: the game. They instantly started Mark Keith Morris, who didn't 196 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: hit the shots he did the other night. But you 197 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: could see the strategy was simple. We're gonna trap Harden 198 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: every time and let them do whatever they're gonna do offensively. 199 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: They took the ball out of Harden's hands and then 200 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: the hero took over playoff Rondo, Rajon Rondo, who listened. 201 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: He's taken fire on this podcast, and understandably so, he's 202 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: had his bad moments. I mean, the guy took six 203 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: months off, I think due to an injury and the pandemic. 204 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: He looked a little sloppy in his first game back, 205 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: but Rondo had twenty one points in Game three. He 206 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: was amazing. Seriously, Rondo three to three pointers, twenty one 207 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: and nine. Remember how he stole kcp's minutes in the 208 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: second half in the fourth quarter of Game two. He 209 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: stole Danny Green's minutes in the fourth quarter of Game three. 210 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's to the point where you need Rondo 211 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: on the floor. Rondo and Caruso were just harassing. Lakers 212 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: bench was dominant. Kuzma had fourteen. Without question that Lakers' 213 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: second half performance. They outscored the Rockets fifty one to 214 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: thirty eight. It was just a blitzkreak. And I am 215 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: of the belief that the Lakers can win this in five. Now, 216 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: are they gonna come out locked in defensively making the 217 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: great rotations they made in Game four, knowing that they 218 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: can beat this team. I don't know. We'll see because Harden, 219 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: he's Harden's still got some left in him. Me he 220 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: wasn't terrible, but he can take over these games. I 221 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: just I think the Lakers are locked in, and folks, 222 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: we're getting close, dangerously close to Lakers Clippers. I can't 223 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: really fathom this. Baseball's getting winding down, right, We're gonna 224 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: have important baseball games. We're gonna have Lakers Clippers, and 225 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna have the NFL and college football. Now, college 226 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: football doesn't really begin in earnest for a couple more 227 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: weeks until the SEC takes the field. But the rest 228 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: of this month is just gonna be on fire and 229 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: straight fire. Is gonna be enjoying all of it all right. 230 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: Coming up next, we have a great interview with former 231 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: NFL cornerback Will Blackman for Just for Kicks. Go on 232 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: YouTube and look up his college highlight reel. Do I 233 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: mean there are moments where he looks like Dion Sanders 234 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: with Boston College. I'm hyping him too much, but Will 235 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: black One's a good guy. We've got to become friends, 236 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: and I think you'll enjoy it. You know, a guy 237 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes 238 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports fans want, but for 239 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. Let's 240 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: just say, I know a guy who knows a guy 241 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome in Will 242 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Lackman too. Straight fire. Will, of course, former NFL cornerback 243 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: return Man, a star at Boston College. You might know 244 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: him or your wife might know him as the NFL 245 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: wine guy. How you doing, man, Hey, I know all 246 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: the ladies are drinking wine. We probably have like a 247 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: ninety seven percent male listenership. And then you know, and 248 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: that is also that's my clientele is ninety seven percent male. 249 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Really yeah, man, Yeah, Will blowing up his young son 250 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: is like a model. I mean, he's putting his wife 251 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: on IG. Will is like increasingly famous. You're growing the 252 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: IG audience rapt listen. And I'm just enjoying my life, Jay, Yeah, 253 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: that's it. J Mac. I just I'm just chilling. I 254 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: enjoy my family. I enjoy my life, man, And that's it, 255 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: that's all. That's all that I display nothing more. That's 256 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: the way to be. Let's start with a guy you 257 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: played with. You were drafted by the Packers, and I'm 258 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: sure everywhere you go pretty much one of the first 259 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: football questions not about you, is, man, what's Aaron Rodgers like? 260 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, listen, this guy is one of 261 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: the premier quarterbacks in the league. You could probably say 262 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: he's top five, top ten in NFL history. And you 263 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: know they have a thirteen and three year last year, 264 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: they come just short of the super Bowl, and then 265 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: they draft his backup in the first round, which I 266 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: thought was crazy. And I'm just curious your thoughts. Having 267 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: played for the organization and with Rogers, what did you 268 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: think of the Packers making that curious move to draft 269 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Love in the draft? Yeah, no, I thought it 270 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: was I thought it was pretty interesting given what you 271 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: just said, right, they just left the MBC championship game. 272 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: That's what gets overlooked too, is that they just left 273 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: the MC championship game. I always look at it in 274 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: terms of from a front office standpoint is usually you 275 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: have a general manager that is married to a quarterback, 276 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: and when Brian Goundkins took over. He inherited Aaron Rodgers, 277 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: which is a hell of a thing to inherit, you know. 278 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: But he's in a situation where he can see that, Okay, 279 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: it's almost time, I need to like build for the future. 280 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: And I just feel like maybe he was tied to 281 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. He was like, hey, if he's here, I mean, 282 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: I like this kid, you know, because I just want 283 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: to get prepared for for whatever happened, you know, after 284 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: the fact. So I just look at it from that perspective. 285 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: But I just felt like, man, right now, Aaron Rodgers 286 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: has the hot hand still and he's not he's not 287 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: declining at all, So I think, man, let's go a 288 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: hand and win now and go for it. But I 289 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: think he's probably looking more so in terms of trying 290 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: to build for the long term, where you know, if 291 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: he does go all in and tries to get these 292 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: certain picks or certain players, that okay, he's going to 293 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: have to blow it up and start over again. But 294 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: I was completely shocked, shocked and taken by the pick 295 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: from that alone. But yeah, I was in a situation similar. 296 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't there when Aaron Rodgers was drafted, but he 297 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: was still young when we had far and it was a 298 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: a similar situation, you know, FARV still had a lot 299 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: left and then they had this young guy grooming that 300 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: Ted Thompson wanted. Yeah, I mean I had. I had 301 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: done a panel once with a former Packers tight end 302 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: I'll leave his name out of this, who basically said 303 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just was not ever friendly to him. He 304 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: would just pass him in the hall and not even 305 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: acknowledge his presence, to the point where he mentioned to coaches, man, 306 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Rogers likes me, and the coaches had 307 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: to broker the starting tight end and Rogers to like 308 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: meet up in a room and become friends. You know. 309 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if you got to that level with 310 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, But having been in NFL locker rooms for 311 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: close to a decade, does that sound unique and strange? Yah? 312 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: It's funny, man, when I when I hear these things, 313 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: because I even heard similar stories of when Boston College 314 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: let go their coach Steve Dasio, and a lot of 315 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: people were saying the same thing, you know, like, oh 316 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: he said this to me, said that to me. It's like, like, 317 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: we're all adults. You know, Usually if you don't have 318 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot in common with somebody other than playing, then 319 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you know, big deal. Prime example, my 320 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: rookie year, I never talked to Brett Favre ever. Now 321 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: granted I played defense, but I just never talked to 322 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Brett farr if we had absolutely nothing to talk about 323 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: in common. But he did reach out to me one time. 324 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: I had a you know, a pretty good game and 325 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: he said, hey, good job when we spoke, And that's that. 326 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just different because I never I never 327 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: try to read signs that I'm never sensitive about stuff, 328 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: and it is what it is like. At the end 329 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: of the day, we're adults. Let's play football. So Aaron 330 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers and not we have a cool relationship. We always 331 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, mess mess with each other and 332 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: tell jokes, and we're you know, we're both I guess 333 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: witty and could be sarcastic. So we kind of get 334 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: each other in that regards. Colin would say that I'm 335 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: a BC guy, he's a cow guy. We're like the 336 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: same person, so you know, we totally get each other 337 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: in that regards. But other than that, man, I think 338 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: it's two eaches home and everyone is different. In terms 339 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: of how they perceive it. But I but I understand 340 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: it from everyone's perspective. You know, he's very serious, he's 341 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: about his business and and that's just what it is. 342 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: But I just feel like sometimes guys can get too 343 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: sensitive when they start reading into things like that. You 344 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: got to just not care what other people think, and 345 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: not care what other people think. Oh just don't just 346 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: don't even assess it. You know. I even in New York, 347 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: I was cool Eli, but we never talked or hung out. 348 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: It's funny. It's funny you mentioned New York. I was 349 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: just gonna go to the Giants because you mentioned, you know, 350 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: the continuity issue with the new head coach and Rodgers, 351 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: and the new head coach always wants their guy. And 352 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to have Aaron Rodgers. But 353 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: if you look at the Giants, they got a new coach, 354 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Joe Judge. He inherits a quarterback in Daniel Jones, who 355 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, I guess has shown some promise, but the 356 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: fumbles are a major issue, and everybody thinks the Giants 357 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: got him too early. I don't know Will I'm not 358 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: bullish on the Giants. This year, A ton of change 359 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: heading into the season. You hat new offensive coordinator, new 360 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, new center. I think they just cut DeAndre Baker, 361 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: their former first round pick. They got like five new 362 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: starters on defense. I don't know. Do you think Daniel 363 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: Jones is long for the Giants and Joe Judge, I 364 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: believe he is. I think you said Logan Ryan. Did 365 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: you mention him as well? Logan Ryan, Yeah, Cornton quarterback 366 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: come up too. I think so. I think he is. 367 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: And I understood the whole process of how it worked 368 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: because a lot of the things when co which is 369 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 1: are recruiting guys, you know, you have relationships with certain players, 370 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: even as even when I was at high school getting recruiter, 371 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: my high school coach had a lot of relationship with 372 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: other college recruiters that came in. And so I look 373 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: at Gettleman, how he has relationship, you know with Cliff 374 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: the coach at Duke who Tran and Eli who you know, 375 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Trane Payton and so they have a relationship in that regards. 376 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: And he also coached Daniel Jones. So I understand why 377 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: they had that relationship. But in terms of Joe Judge, 378 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: I think he's He's just doing necessary things. He is 379 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: the perfect guy in terms of trying to get those 380 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: pumbels down because he's really big on cutting down the penalties, 381 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: cutting down the turnovers. He's a disciplinary in that regards. 382 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: So I think this is a still a good situation. 383 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: I like Daniel Jones's overall athletically and as a quarterback, 384 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see what happens with him 385 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, you mentioned relationships, and this isn't football, 386 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: but it pertains to NBA. I know you're a basketball 387 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: fan because we've done Dan Patrick together and talked toops. 388 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: But you saw the Steve Nash hiring in the NBA, 389 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: and you know Steven A. Smith, it was just white privilege, 390 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: but really it was a relationship thing. He had a 391 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: relationship with Kevin Durant and he also had a relationship 392 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: with the GM Sean Marks. They played together. You know, 393 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: how much does that extend to the NFL? Like you 394 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: were you were in Seattle, you Jacksonville. How much did 395 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: relationships help or maybe hurt you during your time in 396 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the league. Well, they definitely helped me a ton on 397 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: the field and off the field. The prime example after 398 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl with the Giants, I didn't get 399 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: one phone call right And just to fast forward back 400 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: when I was in Green Bay, I ended up having 401 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: a really cool friendship with a scout at the time, 402 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: and the scout happened to be John Snyder, and he 403 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: and I were super cool, got along, you know, we 404 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: hung out, and then you know, fast forward, you know, 405 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: four years later, I'm in a situation where I'm like, 406 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, usually let your agent do all the work. 407 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: And I decided, I was like, you know what, I'm 408 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: just gonna call every team in the book because I 409 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: don't understand why I'm not picked up right now. So 410 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: I ended up calling one of the teams. I called 411 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: with Seattle and I got straight to his cell on 412 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: his office and John Snyder answered the phone. He was like, hey, 413 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: it's John. I was like, hey, as will Well Black. 414 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: When he was like what are you doing? Like what's up? 415 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 1: I was like, dog, I'm just trying to get a workout. 416 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: Like you don't need to really sign me like I would, 417 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: that would be great. I just want to get a workout. 418 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: And he's like, man, listen, right now we are stacked, 419 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: but I'll bring you in for a workout to give 420 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: you some buzz. You know and also to see what 421 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: you look like. Was this during this was when they 422 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: had the legion of boom right, Yeah, and this is 423 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: the whole this is I think during the Crack Cup 424 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: situation where Sherman and Brandon Brod a kind of got 425 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: in trouble in twenty twelve and he brought me in, 426 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: worked me out, and I ended pretty well and ended 427 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: up putting me on the short list. Coming the following 428 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: off season, he ended up signing me to the team. 429 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: Obviously didn't make it. See they won a Super Bowl. 430 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: But here's what's crazy. Well, the defensive coordinator was Gus 431 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: Bradley m He goes to Jacksonville that next year. I 432 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: get cut on a Tuesday. Gus signs me on a 433 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: Wednesday to go to Jacksonville. That's pretty cool. So you 434 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: just you just never know in terms of who's what. 435 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: You know, BC had a relationship because coach Coughlin was 436 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: a Boston College guy. The Marra family. I went to 437 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: school with their daughters who owned the Giants. They went 438 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: to Boston College. It's just it's just crazy on how 439 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: all this works. My parents always are like, listen, you 440 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: just never know who you're going to run into always 441 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: be nice to people, be friendly a sponge and like, 442 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: honestly we did Dan Patrick together a couple of times. 443 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: And you know at FS one or on the rail, 444 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: Oh who do you like working with? Who do you 445 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: want to if I got you with something, It's like, oh, well, 446 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Blackman's great, you know, like we get along eas Yeah, yeah, 447 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: I mean that that's the cool thing about sports. And 448 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys, Will, I know a lot 449 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: of young people listen to these podcasts and they're the 450 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: same ones on Twitter, firing off angry remarks saying whatever 451 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: they want, and like sometimes I know you guys are young. 452 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: I'm glad Twitter wasn't around when I was young. Will, 453 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I would have said 454 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: a lot of dumb stuff. But like, you know, you 455 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: were young and in the NFL, Like you can't come 456 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: in there puffing your chest out, acting like your shit 457 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: don't stink. You know you gotta because for me, because 458 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: for me J Mack, it was it was always business. 459 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: I never took anything personal from anyone. As as livid 460 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: as I was when I got cut from Seattle, I 461 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: knew it because it wasn't because John Snyder thought I 462 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: was a terrible person. It's because he just thought another 463 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: guy was better. That's based on skill, that's not based 464 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: on personality. So the biggest, the biggest thing I have 465 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: never done in football, even in TV, I never bring 466 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: any bridges. I just have it because it's pointless. You know, 467 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: when I was on the Giants of somebody I was 468 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: really cool with was a beat writer by the name 469 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: of Mike Garifa. Oh he was a beat writer, dude. 470 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden fast forward where you know, 471 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of my career. He hits up 472 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: Jacob Allman. He's like, hey, you should try to You 473 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: should give Will a look because Will is really cool 474 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: to the media. He interviews. Well, you should try you 475 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: should check him out. So I went by an audition 476 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: like five years six years ago. It was me, Peter Scheger, 477 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: and Jenny taff I think Salam was there too. Oh yeah, 478 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: just because I was I was cool to people. You 479 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's that's just that's how 480 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: it works. Man. Let me ask you about the I 481 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: guess I could call them the Redskins since you played 482 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: for them when they were the Redskins, say Washington Washington, Washington. Uh, 483 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: that was like your your final NFL stop. Yeah, I mean, listen, 484 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: a lot has come out about this organization. It's been 485 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: a brutal year for them. From the owner, the coach 486 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: is new you know, I mean, will A lot is 487 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: going on there. I'll ask you first, Uh, did you 488 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: see anything untoward when you were there? Did it feel 489 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: than any other locker room you'd been in? Yeah? Well, 490 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: going back to the relationship thing, how I ended up 491 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: there to begin with because I had I knew Scott 492 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: mcclun from Seattle. So Scott McLuhan once again a relationship thing. 493 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: He brought me to Washington and he was like, yeah, 494 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: I already know what I'm getting with. Well, he told 495 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: me verbat him too. He says, as long as I'm 496 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: as long as I'm the GM of the team, you 497 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: will be on this team because you're the type of 498 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: person in here. And sure enough, when he was gone, 499 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: I was going he had like some I think it's 500 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: like a background that had some issues off the field, 501 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: right with alcohol. Yeah, alcohol, that's right. Yeah. But my 502 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: thing is when when he was hired to Washington, they 503 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: knew that, you know, they knew that that's why he 504 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: couldn't get a job. But he's really good at his job. 505 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: He's really good at his job. Yeah, I mean we 506 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, we won a division with outcasts. I 507 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: mean you couldn't name really anybody besides Deangel har On 508 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: our defense and Brian Carrigan. But I under But when 509 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: I was there the whole, the only the main issue 510 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I had playing for Washington is that whatever we did 511 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: as organization was not about football. It wasn't about football. 512 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: It wasn't about creating a player friendly environment and really 513 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: catering to the players so we can have a good 514 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: football team. I just felt like the organization as a 515 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: whole was more concerned with how they look from the outside, 516 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, getting to all the political things, get into 517 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: like what's important, what's in terms of just from an 518 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: outside perspective, And I just felt like a lot of 519 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: attention was not spent. And I just came from to 520 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: places where, Okay, Seattle, where it is one hundred percent 521 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: about what the players want, what do they need it. 522 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's there's no budget in the equipment room, 523 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: like get these guys everything they want, the best food, 524 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: the best is the best, that like, let's make sure 525 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: these guys have an optimal performing situation. I go to Jacksonville. Okay, 526 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: we did not win them any games, but Gus Bradley 527 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: was all about, how can we find the best way 528 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: to keep these guys happy and really make it about 529 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: the players. It just felt it just felt like if 530 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: you either said the wrong thing or if you did 531 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 1: the wrong thing, that you know, you were messing with 532 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: the brand and you would be gone. You know. So 533 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I've been fortunate to be in green Bay. Organization was 534 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: really good. Why because it starts from the top. Any 535 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: good organization, business, whatever, it starts from the top down. 536 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: So green Bay right down, Seattle top down, the Giants 537 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: top down. Jacksonville was trying to get there, but right 538 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: now at the top they can't figure it out, which 539 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: is why they're resetting again. In terms of what's going on. 540 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: That's a great point. And the Redskins, you know, under Snyder, 541 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: have been pretty awful. Now. I don't know, do you 542 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: think they've got a chance this year to rebound. I 543 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: kind of like Haskins more than a lot of other people. 544 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: He was a super young quarterback. I mean, he had 545 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: such a bad situation. You look at the skill position 546 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: players that's legit. Come on, like this team has nobu 547 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: that's legit. You can go into a situation like that 548 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: and be at a different position and still succeed. You know, 549 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: it was it was pretty crazy situation. But someone like 550 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller cornerback came in as well. But for a 551 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: quarterback where you know, you have the issues with the OC, 552 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: you have the issues with the head coach, you have 553 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: issues with the owner, you have issues with the whole. 554 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: It's really hard to win in that environment when you 555 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: are the quarterback. So I like him, you know, I 556 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: think he has pretty good weapons around him. He has 557 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: the guy, he has the head coach, you know, and 558 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: they brought in new people upstairs, which is which is 559 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: huge and that's how you get better as an organization 560 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: as a whole. Let me ask you Will about this 561 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: real quick. So and I don't know how if this 562 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: is fully out there is like a big scheme thing. 563 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: But the cornerback versus the edge rusher, pass rush versus 564 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: defending the past because it's become a passing league and 565 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers had the you know, an incredible 566 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: pass rush last year. You saw it. We're down in 567 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in the second half. But the Chiefs 568 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of did the opposite. Remember, they moved away from 569 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: pass rush and they focused on Honey Badger in the secondary. 570 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: And the secondary was great late in the season, and 571 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: in this offseason you saw Seattle let you know, clown, 572 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: he's not there anymore. But they went and got Jamal 573 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: Adams to fortify the secondary. As a defensive back, obviously, 574 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: I know which way you're gonna lean, but how do 575 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: you balance that pass rush versus secondary, which seems to 576 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: be a huge issue right now in the league. No, 577 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: this was interesting because I think last year there was 578 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: a huge debate with a bunch of you know, I 579 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: think pro football focused people because they thought, as someone else, 580 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: they said, no, the cornerback position is more important than 581 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: the edge rusher. And I was like, not at all. 582 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: If you're starting a team, you go get an edge 583 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: rusher regardless because it changes a lot in terms of 584 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: they go. Well, you can't really factor instead count how 585 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: effective they are. I go, but we don't know. For example, 586 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: you're going against someone like you know, Aaron Donald, Khalil 587 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: Mack or Von Miller. He may not ever get to 588 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Maybe because they're shifting protection, maybe because the 589 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: quarterback decides to go somewhere else, but he is aware. 590 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: If you can affect a quarterback, you can have an 591 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: okay secondary because say the quarterback is hit, the ball 592 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: is gonna come out where maybe he's really filling that pressure. 593 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: So I always believe if I'm a GM, I'm always 594 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna go edge rusher. First. Interesting, well, I saw the 595 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: trend last year and for whatever reason, teams are going 596 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: with the sixth offensive lineman. And I don't know if 597 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: that's to help the run game or to mess up 598 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: the defense with what the strategy is. But I do 599 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: feel like you can scheme out a defensive end like 600 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack kind of last year. I know he was 601 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 1: dinged up, but he isn't really a factor now you 602 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: look at the you know TJ. But that's my point, though, 603 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: you have to you have to scheme and not scheme 604 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: them out. That's still that's a stat that's not documented. 605 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So you know I hear 606 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: them and all that, and plus you know, it depends 607 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: on how much they want to give clannye. I know 608 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: they I know he wanted him there. That John did, 609 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: but it all think they were. They came in a 610 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: little like two or three million under. Yeah, but that'd 611 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: be interesting. Do you let me ask you this, Do 612 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: you have a super Bowl team or give me give 613 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: me like a surprise team this year, somebody that did 614 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: not make the playoffs last year that you think is 615 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: primed for a big season. It's it's funny, man, It's 616 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: it's every year. It's Dallas, right, every single It's not 617 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: a surprise team. But I mean they they have, especially offensively, 618 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: what they need to get there. Gosh, that's a good question. 619 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to like some teams. I mean, everybody 620 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: saying Pittsburgh right, because Big Ben's back, He's the thing 621 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: to win the comeback Player of the year. No, that's 622 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: that's a good one too. I feel like as long 623 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: as Connor stays healthy. Yep. Indianapolis Colts at a quarterback 624 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: in Rivers who was not very good last year, but 625 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line is great. Yeah, and they got two 626 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: mosters at running back and they have a great offense 627 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: line of defense. So yeah, those are two teams that 628 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: definitely looking for I think the most underrated connection that's 629 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: going to happen this year is definitely going to be 630 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: big Bet and Eric Hebron. I feel like as long 631 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: as those two is healthy, they're going to have an 632 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: unreal season. Obviously, everyone is still waiting to see what 633 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: the heck happens in Cleveland. Yeah, but no, but what happened? 634 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 1: What happened in Cleveland? We just taught It's been the 635 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: theme upstairs. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. Ownership management, 636 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: that's you know. I feel like that that's been the 637 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: problem there because they have the talent, there's no question 638 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: about it. All Right, Well, I'll get you out of 639 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: here with this. Let me tell me about the how 640 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: you got into wine and you are now the NFL 641 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: wine guy. I see you got all these sponsors writing 642 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: about you in wine magazines. Bro, you you don't need 643 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: the sports media. I mean, you got the whole wine community. 644 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: That's what I gotta talk, ball man, I got, I got, 645 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: I got. I have a lot to say when it 646 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: comes to football, but I just I just always enjoyed 647 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: it as a as a consumer man. And then I 648 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: really got to understand I think the business side of it. Oh. 649 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: I had an interest because when I was drafted to 650 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay, that's the same year, we signed Charles Woodson 651 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: and he was already full fledged in the wine business. 652 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: So I was like, man, it's interesting to see somebody 653 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: playing football, but he's actually because I thought that was 654 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: an industry you couldn't touch. I thought it was some 655 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: totally different left field over my head. And just to 656 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: see him go through it, so I just started to 657 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: understand more and I want to learn more. So I 658 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: ended up going to get a bunch of certifications in 659 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: the wine industry. I went to Sonoma State in the 660 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: Wine Business Institution. I just got accepted into UC Davis 661 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: and the better culture thing. And then I originally want 662 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: to have own wine label, and I was like, you 663 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: know what, everyone I spoke to said, if you have 664 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: your own wine label, the hardest thing to do is 665 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: sell it, because it's not that easy. So while I 666 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: was going through that process, a lot of people were 667 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: hitting me up on you know, how do I get wine. 668 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: I just when I decided, well, maybe they should just 669 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: get it from me. I'll be a personal concierge and 670 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: a buyer for people. And also created my own wine club. 671 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: So that's where the wine MVP came about. That's the 672 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: name of my Concier's Wine Club. Oh smart man, Hey listen, 673 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: that's a great business to be in during a fringing pandemic. Yeah, 674 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: everyone's at home. I just worked no so for example, 675 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: speaking to that people at home during COVID, I did 676 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: Reggie Busher's his entire wine cellar. I did half of 677 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's wine cell I did Justin Tuck seller Sidney 678 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Rice and sending him stuff. I'm gonna do Josh Allen 679 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: seller when he's finished building it, and then Tyrod Taylor's seller. 680 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: So wow, look at you. Well, I'll have to get 681 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: down on the list somewhere when you know, as this 682 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: podcast blows up, I get a wine cellar. At first, 683 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: I got to own a house, and then we'll get 684 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: a wine cellar. Will Blackman great stuff. Follow him on 685 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: social media and well, I'm sure i'll see you down 686 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: the road soon. Of course, Thank you, Jay. The only 687 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: thing better than sitting on your couch watching the gates. 688 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: He's making money while you do it. Here's your best bet, 689 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: good stuff from Will Blackman. He's a nice guy. I've 690 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: gotten to know him a little bit, very sharp individual. 691 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: And I'll tell this story for the new listeners. But 692 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: there was a time when I cracked into the TV 693 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: World twenty sixteen, and a lot of these athletes, former athletes, 694 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: would look at me and be like, well, this guy 695 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: didn't play. Who's this guy? Who's this brown guy over here? 696 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 1: What did you do? Who are you to go toe 697 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: to toe with me? And you know, some of these 698 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: guys like Ray Lewis, probably the most famous guy I've 699 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: shared a set with. He didn't show any of that. 700 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: He's very cool, down to earth. Some of the other guys, 701 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, give me some static. Will Blackman never gave 702 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: me any of that. Very nice individual and I hope 703 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: you like that. Onto the best bet for Wednesday. This 704 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: might be the final best bet where we just do 705 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: NBA because NFL's coming up, and you know that's my 706 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: favorite sport to gamble on Wednesday night. This feels automatic. 707 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: But the Boston Celtics favor by three, I mean, come on, 708 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: I close it out. The way the Celtics looked against 709 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: the Raptor's vaunted zone in Game five was just come on, 710 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: it was lights out. Boston dominated them, Soup the nuts. 711 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: Celtics favored by three. I feel like they put them away. Listen, 712 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: the Raptors had a good run. They won the championship 713 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: last year taking down the injured Warriors, and yes, I 714 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: will always mention the injured Warriors. I'm gonna avoid Clippers 715 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: and Denver. I don't know. I thought the Clippers would 716 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: roll them in Game two and they didn't, so I'm 717 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: gonna steer clear. I've seen some things from Denver that's 718 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: kind of impressive. I think we'll see a lot more 719 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior tonight. But the best bet Boston Celtics 720 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: favored by three. We're now fourteen four and one, and 721 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: it's fun to do it in basketball. Doing it on 722 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: the NFL, that's when it counts. So I'm gonna have 723 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: to buck up and lock things down. NFL starting in 724 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: a little more than twenty four hours. Very excited. Hope 725 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: you guys are too. Thank you for listening, Thank you 726 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: for subscribing, rating and reviewing. You know I love those 727 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: good reviews. And tomorrow I will drop the new email address. 728 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: If you follow me on Instagram, you probably saw it. 729 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: We will be taking your audio questions. I set up 730 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: an email and everything. It's gonna be fun, very cool, interactive. 731 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: We want you guys to have your voice and you 732 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: got a lot on your mind. Trust me. I read 733 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: the dms, I get the tweets, and I look forward 734 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: to hearing more from you. Guys. I'll talk to you 735 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: tomorrow