Speaker 1: Spring cleaning, Let's talk to the pros. Welcome in everybody
Speaker 1: to fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. Is
Speaker 1: me Joey p Joe Pizipia, And today we are ever
Speaker 1: so close to opening Day and leading off, which starts
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Speaker 1: you kick off the day before opening day because we
Speaker 1: just can't get enough baseball. But before we get to
Speaker 1: opening day, training camps are ending. We have people packing
Speaker 1: up their things. Some are being DFAD, other people are
Speaker 1: getting the call to the big leagues. And we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about some of the spring training winners and
Speaker 1: losers here and Welsh, it is a peculiar part of
Speaker 1: time here because this is when you see guys who
Speaker 1: are not making the team getting cut, very sad, but
Speaker 1: you also see dreams coming true. You may moments like
Speaker 1: Jordan Walker making the team, Anthony Volby making the team,
Speaker 1: and oh it's a really really heartfelt, feel good baseball moments.
Speaker 2: There was actually one you want to know what, They're
Speaker 2: all really cool. I love those videos, by the way,
Speaker 2: I must be just a sucker for those, like those
Speaker 2: gotcha cam videos of these guys making the team. Today
Speaker 2: as we're recording this on Monday, the latest one to
Speaker 2: drop was Bryce Terrang with the Milwaukee Brows made it
Speaker 2: and there was something really cool about that one because
Speaker 2: they really were trying to get him. They were just like, well,
Speaker 2: we're going to option you to Colorado and then he like,
Speaker 2: he didn't process it, and it's a really cool thing.
Speaker 2: It's a weird time for me too, Joe, because out
Speaker 2: here in Arizona, you know, I've been going to camps
Speaker 2: for six weeks. I've been out almost every single day,
Speaker 2: going out watching players, seeing progression and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of coming to an end, though, I
Speaker 2: will tell you I is able to go and check
Speaker 2: out the padres and get to see Juan Soto, who
Speaker 2: looks like he's going to be good for the season.
Speaker 2: And that's part of it as well. You're seeing dreams
Speaker 2: get crushed, dreams appear and materialize, and then you're also
Speaker 2: seeing players. We have a little bit of panic on
Speaker 2: for the last couple of days of what could be
Speaker 2: drafts if you have one right before the season starts,
Speaker 2: and you could maybe feel a little bit better about one.
Speaker 2: Soto actually playing and starting after he played a big
Speaker 2: old rehab assignment game today and Joe Musgrove pitched as well,
Speaker 2: and he looked very pretty good.
Speaker 1: I thought that Joe Musgrove overreaction was so crazy. I
Speaker 1: was like, guys, it's a toe. He'll be okay in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Like stop dropping him in drafts.
Speaker 1: I saw him going a fifth round, six round of
Speaker 1: another draft a deep league. Was like, what do you do?
Speaker 3: He's going later than that? He you know what?
Speaker 2: And today he pitched about five and he was talking
Speaker 2: in the there's like the dugout right there, and I
Speaker 2: got to hear in the dugout he was talking about
Speaker 2: a new pitch grip on his change up that he
Speaker 2: was using, and he was in a mood, like a
Speaker 2: great mood.
Speaker 3: He was able to go deep.
Speaker 2: And they're talking about one potential misstart. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: after the start he just had, I wouldn't even discount
Speaker 2: the possibility that he doesn't even miss that one. But yeah,
Speaker 2: huge discount, and that's kind of the thing that happens.
Speaker 2: There are players that you know, the worries and the
Speaker 2: fears are going out and we get to take advantage of.
Speaker 2: Joe Musgrove was like a huge advantage taken of in
Speaker 2: some of the drafts I had most recently.
Speaker 1: And Terrang probably a guy too you want to pick
Speaker 1: up in those leads where he needs steals because he
Speaker 1: might be somebody who can contribute there. And of course
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't talk about it yet, but Reese
Speaker 1: Hoskins injury obviously a huge blow to the Phillies. We
Speaker 1: did get into it a lot on the show I
Speaker 1: just did recorded with Matt Striker though, So if you
Speaker 1: want to see that, it's on our Betting Pros YouTube channels.
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Speaker 1: the place to be. We're leading off every single day.
Speaker 1: But we got into the Hoskins stuff and the Philly
Speaker 1: stuff a lot on that video features video for MLB
Speaker 1: for wagering, but a lot of good Phillies talk on
Speaker 1: there too about that go ahead we.
Speaker 2: Wash oh, I wanted to check out that video. I
Speaker 2: wanted to see it some future stuff because I have to.
Speaker 3: I do have. I don't do as much.
Speaker 2: You are like the futures bet guy. Him Joe is
Speaker 2: like the master of futures bets. I'm a big d
Speaker 2: season guy. But I have two actually technically have three
Speaker 2: futures bets on Rookie of the Years and I have
Speaker 2: one n L on Corman Carroll, and I've got Yoshida
Speaker 2: and Volpe which I took before Bay got on the
Speaker 2: roster for Ale Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 3: So I'm feeling good about that.
Speaker 2: But I cannot believe that we're getting set for all
Speaker 2: of this, and I cannot believe that the season is
Speaker 2: about to start. And I'm also excited to get into
Speaker 2: all of this my friends, and I can't believe. That's
Speaker 2: what I was gonna say, is that leading off is
Speaker 2: starting in a.
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Speaker 1: to have a blast. But let's talk about some people
Speaker 1: really having a blast. Let's talk about the Spring Training winners. Welsh,
Speaker 1: who is number one on your list?
Speaker 2: Well, this is funny because you got to the list
Speaker 2: before me, and you definitely.
Speaker 1: Make the sheets, so in all fairness, yeah, you're going
Speaker 1: to get to.
Speaker 3: Them before me.
Speaker 2: You have one on there that actually two that jump
Speaker 2: out immediately, but I was surprised at one that you
Speaker 2: did not throw in. Who I think is the biggest
Speaker 2: winner of spring Training. In fact, he owns spring Training.
Speaker 2: It's Jared Killmick with the Seattle Parners. I can't believe
Speaker 2: that he didn't make your list. Kelnick was just borderline
Speaker 2: into obscurity, kind of like where Joey Dell is. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: Joey Deell primarily what happens in late March, he gets
Speaker 2: optioned to Triple A and I kind of felt like
Speaker 2: that was what was going on with Kelnick seemed lost.
Speaker 2: We found out in this offseason he was finally letting
Speaker 2: people into his brain trust. He was going to finally
Speaker 2: let people speak to him and go to drive line.
Speaker 2: And that's such a weird thing to think that this
Speaker 2: wasn't happening before, especially with all the struggles. Well, guess what,
Speaker 2: it seems to be materializing because he had a phenomenal
Speaker 2: spring hit three sixty in spring an almost four hundred
Speaker 2: OVP and over eleven hundred ops. He had four homers,
Speaker 2: three stolen bases, which I think is huge. When we're
Speaker 2: sitting here and talking about who are the guys that
Speaker 2: are going to benefit A guy like Jared Keelnick is
Speaker 2: a man on a mission and there's a little bit
Speaker 2: of an advantage, and he's not going to hit high
Speaker 2: in the lineup. I think Jared kel if he's hitting
Speaker 2: and he's out there, he's going to steal twenty plus bases.
Speaker 2: This year he had eighteen hits in fifty eight bats
Speaker 2: and hitting over three hundred while minimizing some of the
Speaker 2: strikeouts is one of the biggest wins. And guess what,
Speaker 2: as much as everybody is sitting here being like.
Speaker 3: It's spring training. It's spring training. It's buying in.
Speaker 2: People are buying in, and his ADP is rising because
Speaker 2: this might actually happen. So you want to talk about
Speaker 2: spring beneficiaries and spring risers. You didn't put him on here.
Speaker 2: I think he is the number one player. It's Jared Keelnick.
Speaker 1: Listen, man. I got my first share of Kalnick in
Speaker 1: my home league this year. It's a person keeper fifteen
Speaker 1: team league, and I got him for eight bucks, and
Speaker 1: I just I want to see, Like, for eight bucks,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, that return could be massive.
Speaker 1: Maybe he becomes that guy that he was always supposed
Speaker 1: to be, it's great. And if it doesn't, the eight
Speaker 1: box doesn't going to kill me.
Speaker 2: And there's not really anybody holding him back next so
Speaker 2: they got it.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we can argue Kelnick's been the guy
Speaker 1: holding Kelnick back at the end of the day. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe no question listening and opening up the brain trust
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell was like maybe this the thing,
Speaker 1: but this is it, Like this is kind of you know,
Speaker 1: you know what, or get off the pot for him.
Speaker 1: But it was a very encouraging spring. Then the guy
Speaker 1: looked great. I watched him the f bats too that
Speaker 1: he took. He looked comfortable. Now it's just a matter
Speaker 1: of just bringing that over and look when they send
Speaker 1: it back down last year in Triple A. You pointed
Speaker 1: it out on the show the other day, he looked great,
Speaker 1: like there was no reason not to be excited about
Speaker 1: the potential of Kealennick finally realizing his potential. The number
Speaker 1: one guy for me is Anthony Volpi, which it's funny.
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, I was all with Matter Trecker on Sports
Speaker 1: Square and we were talking about the Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year odds, and I said, look, it's plus eight hundred
Speaker 1: for him right now, Like, go get this because if
Speaker 1: he gets the call and he gets called up there,
Speaker 1: it's probably going to move very rapidly where that number
Speaker 1: is not going to be there anymore. So if you
Speaker 1: like him, you go ahead. You take him at that number,
Speaker 1: and you hope for the best that he does get
Speaker 1: a lot of play. He's gonna hit ninth. By the way,
Speaker 1: that eight hundred moved to plus six fifty overnight, So yeah.
Speaker 3: DK, it was seven.
Speaker 2: I got him at seven fifty like a week or
Speaker 2: so ago, and it's up to five hundred.
Speaker 3: Right now, So it's even over there. Where was the
Speaker 3: Where were those good adds you just got?
Speaker 1: Uh, those are over on FanDuel right now. But again,
Speaker 1: we want to see the consensus. You go to betting
Speaker 1: pros dot com for the consensus. But I mean, if
Speaker 1: you are looking at you know right now where things
Speaker 1: stand here for Anthony Volpie after spring. In spring he
Speaker 1: had three home runs, he had five stolen bases, he
Speaker 1: had three to zho two with a four thirteen OVP
Speaker 1: of six to twenty three slugging and a ten thirty
Speaker 1: six ops. Spring training doesn't mean a lot. But what
Speaker 1: I saw out of OPI and DOUBLEA what I see
Speaker 1: the Yankees moving towards, which is a younger product, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, the more you have these young kids on
Speaker 1: these you know, smaller contracts, the more you can afford
Speaker 1: to go out there and be the Yankees again and
Speaker 1: start signing big free agents again. You know, they spend
Speaker 1: a lot of money on Aaron Judge. They got a
Speaker 1: lot of money in Garrett Cole and they got to
Speaker 1: offset that. And I don't know how long Donaldson is
Speaker 1: for this team. I really don't like. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I could see him getting moved on
Speaker 1: from But the fact that they recognize at Volpe's that
Speaker 1: energy spark they need. I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: a good thing for that team too. I think they
Speaker 1: kind of need a little of that. I don't expect
Speaker 1: him to stick in the nine hole very long. If
Speaker 1: he hits, he is going to move up that order
Speaker 1: very quickly. So to me, Volpi's put himself in a
Speaker 1: great position there. So he's my number one guy before
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Speaker 1: is it next?
Speaker 2: Well, it is going to be Jordan Walker's. This is
Speaker 2: a pretty easy one. You know, you got Anthony Volpi,
Speaker 2: which I one hundred percent would have put on here,
Speaker 2: but you didn't put Jordan Walker on.
Speaker 3: So why not you talk about Spring?
Speaker 1: I'm a nice guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no. I felt actually felt.
Speaker 2: Like this was one of those that you purposely left
Speaker 2: for me, knowing that I was going to fill it out.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: But if you want to talk about the new era, uh,
Speaker 2: it is Air Jordan if you want. Did you know,
Speaker 2: by the way I say that lovingly, he actually does
Speaker 2: a few inscriptions. He has actually have the ball right
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Speaker 2: my friend Sid Dennis Sidler. From Sid's grass you can
Speaker 2: get the Air Jordan inscription. Is very cool because he
Speaker 2: is next up. Jordan Walker, though he tailed off at
Speaker 2: the end, is a physical, physical presence on the field.
Speaker 2: He ended up hitting three homers, which he came out
Speaker 2: of spring just banging two stolen bases. He hit two
Speaker 2: seventy seven. Needs to walk a little bit more. His
Speaker 2: strikeouts got a little bit crazy on the back end.
Speaker 2: I will say that I do think there's a possibility
Speaker 2: there's some volatility where I actually think Volpi is a
Speaker 2: little bit safer and like where I don't worry about
Speaker 2: Corbyn Carrol and where he is because of his floor.
Speaker 2: Walker's a little bit more volatile with some of the
Speaker 2: swing and miss, but he also is maybe the most
Speaker 2: explosive of any player. And it's hard to deny that,
Speaker 2: like what this spring did got him this gig because
Speaker 2: they had all the reasons in the world to not
Speaker 2: bring him up. I think forty Man construction, Dylan Carlson,
Speaker 2: Alec Burlson, and just not starting the clock. They had
Speaker 2: all the reasons to not do it. That hot start
Speaker 2: did it. And if you watch the video when he
Speaker 2: was added on, it was also like how he overcame
Speaker 2: the adversity of his struggles with a little bit of
Speaker 2: a shoulder injury and struggling at the back half of spring,
Speaker 2: and how he maintained himself. He's the guy he benefited.
Speaker 3: Is no doubt he.
Speaker 2: Is one of the top spring risers that we are
Speaker 2: going to be taking a looking at. And he's one
Speaker 2: of the most exciting prospects for the twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 2: And he's also So why this little tipbit here, Corbyn
Speaker 2: Carroll's Rookie of the Year number has dropped a little
Speaker 2: bit on some books. I might go re bet that
Speaker 2: because Jordan I've.
Speaker 3: Been making it move him down.
Speaker 1: I got Corbyn Carroll plus seven hundred when it first opened.
Speaker 1: I ran, I ran to the book to get that
Speaker 1: better number.
Speaker 3: Than I got.
Speaker 2: But I bet it months and months ago. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna rebt it because Walker making the roster has literally
Speaker 2: pushed him down a little bit. More so it's better
Speaker 2: odds than I got like three weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: of the winners from spring training. Another one for me
Speaker 1: is a guy who actually did not make the team,
Speaker 1: but I think opened up a lot of eyes, and
Speaker 1: that's Brett Baty, third basement for the New York Mets.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to be a homer here. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows I'm the biggest self lolothing Met fan that has
Speaker 1: ever been in the entire history of the universe. But
Speaker 1: I think what you saw was, you know, you saw
Speaker 1: the smooth left handed swing, you saw him handled major
Speaker 1: league pitching. You saw everything you needed to see. And
Speaker 1: Edward Escobar is a good player. He's a role player.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that the Mets, you know, really like,
Speaker 1: and the Met clubhouse really likes. But he's not going
Speaker 1: to be the everyday third baseman the entire year for
Speaker 1: the Mets. It's not going to be the case. Brett
Speaker 1: Baty is eventually going to come in here and be
Speaker 1: a thing. And I think that it's something everybody should
Speaker 1: pay attention to because if you drafted him and he
Speaker 1: saw he got sent down you're a little bummed right now,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be. I would just keep him on the bench.
Speaker 1: If you absolutely have a short bench and you can't
Speaker 1: handle it, I get it, you need more help streaming pitchers, whatever.
Speaker 1: But if you have the ability to hold this player,
Speaker 1: I would hold him because I see a place where
Speaker 1: by Memorial Day he's taking over that job. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be undeniable at Triple A. I think
Speaker 1: there's very little left for him to prove. I think
Speaker 1: spring training goes a long way just showing that you
Speaker 1: could hit major league pitching, and he did that. The
Speaker 1: defense is something that he's worked on too. I saw
Speaker 1: there was one Aaron throw. I was watching a game
Speaker 1: where did miss a throw there at one point. But
Speaker 1: other than that, the glove is pretty good, the bad
Speaker 1: is exceptional. And the Mets need a little bit more
Speaker 1: left handers in that lineup, and I think he goes
Speaker 1: a long way in that sense. So Brett Beaty's a
Speaker 1: guy for me that is going to be up probably
Speaker 1: by June. And if you're looking for a player for
Speaker 1: four months who might end up an every day job
Speaker 1: at third base, which Welsh. How many times we talked
Speaker 1: about how tough third base is to me, he's a
Speaker 1: win kind of player. Who's next on your list here?
Speaker 1: Your third guy for the winners in spring training?
Speaker 3: Well, my final riser here. It's actually probably a.
Speaker 2: Little bit questionable about how like much did he rise
Speaker 2: because of the spring, But I've been talking about him
Speaker 2: since day one, and Joe will attest to it.
Speaker 3: I'm not new to this game.
Speaker 2: If anything, I had to be one of the original conductors,
Speaker 2: because if there are three players that I'm associated with
Speaker 2: this spring, Joe, it's Corbyn Carrol Large, Nupart and Jeffrey Springs.
Speaker 2: And I think what happened spring, which I think is
Speaker 2: no pun intended this spring with Springs, is that there
Speaker 2: was a lot of talk people like me talking about
Speaker 2: how excited they were with the pitch mix and him
Speaker 2: getting more. But also take a look at the results
Speaker 2: that went along with all of this hype. Fourteen innings
Speaker 2: pitch this spring, twenty four strikeouts, did not give up
Speaker 2: an earned run and had a point five whip. Spring
Speaker 2: stats don't matter, but when you're talking about big breakout pitchers,
Speaker 2: guys that are ready to take the next step, like
Speaker 2: we've been talking about, when they come out and they
Speaker 2: are absolutely unhittable, dominant in spring, It's something to take
Speaker 2: a look at. Plus we've seen a little bit more
Speaker 2: sweeper action in his pitch mix. He's changed that up,
Speaker 2: which gets the hardcore pitching guys excited. Jeffrey Springs is
Speaker 2: a guy the projections still aren't pushing up. But I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, I have thought since day one that this
Speaker 2: is a guy that's got top twenty sp upside. It
Speaker 2: really is just built around how much can he get
Speaker 2: pushed this year? And I firmly believe he will push
Speaker 2: projection innings limit, pitched innings, pitch limit on projections this year.
Speaker 2: And this is why I think he's going to be
Speaker 2: such a dominant guy. And we have seen his adp
Speaker 2: rise and rise and rise, and some of it must
Speaker 2: have to do with this insane spring that he had.
Speaker 1: Speaking of great Springs and guys we've talked about ad nauseam.
Speaker 1: How about red debt Mers. That's my last guy to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 3: I would have added him if you didn't, my friend.
Speaker 1: Seventeen innings in Spring two sixty Era gave up just
Speaker 1: ten hits. Nobody's squaring this guy up. He struck out
Speaker 1: twenty three guys in those seven innings give up just
Speaker 1: five walks, the e the whip excuse me, point eighty seven,
Speaker 1: the batting average against one point six y one. I mean,
Speaker 1: Redebt Meers has really emerged. And I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: in Angel's rotation that we have been so tough on
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, that really is just
Speaker 1: they have failed to develop pitching that has been a
Speaker 1: big problem for this organization in the past, and this
Speaker 1: is an opportunity for them to kind of write that.
Speaker 1: And you know, the Angels on paper, they are deeper
Speaker 1: than they've been in a while. They need somebody to
Speaker 1: step up in that rotation. If Redebtmers pitches like a
Speaker 1: front end starter along with O'tom, this is a very
Speaker 1: different Angels team potentially. I say potentially because the injuries
Speaker 1: to Trout, when those things happen, it seems like annually
Speaker 1: it just drags everything down with it. But re Detmars
Speaker 1: is in a unique position right now to be that
Speaker 1: compliment to Otani, to be that guy towards the front
Speaker 1: of that rotation, and that completely changes the look and
Speaker 1: feel of this team. And in fantasy purposes, he's a
Speaker 1: picture that I thought would really start to rock it up,
Speaker 1: like I saw Spring's adp rocket up. Denver's really didn't.
Speaker 1: It really just kind of hung up. It moved a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, and maybe some of the Sharper
Speaker 1: leagues you see him go around maybe too early, but
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it, like those teams that were aggressive
Speaker 1: on Detmos canna be really really happy for it. Before
Speaker 1: we get to the losers. Boy, that's one of the
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Speaker 1: drafted the good team. Now it's trying to manage them
Speaker 1: all the way to the championship. So wels kick things
Speaker 1: off here, who's our first loser from spring training?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, no bigger loser than a second basement
Speaker 2: prospect that everyone's excited about that then gets sent down
Speaker 2: when there is nobody to really take his job. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you are a loveab looser jobs. You're a loveable loser
Speaker 2: when a guy named Orlando Arcia takes your job. And
Speaker 2: that's unfortunately what von Grissom had in front of him.
Speaker 2: He didn't really have a horrid spring hit three seventy
Speaker 2: one with the four hundred OVP had a couple stolen bases.
Speaker 2: Really not a lot of power that came out of it.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it was about the power. It
Speaker 2: was about what he showed on his glove in spring.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is clearly the Braves are not a
Speaker 2: team that's afraid to bring these guys up, bring them
Speaker 2: up early, and then extend them. They are not Look
Speaker 2: at what happened with Michael Harris. I mean they literally
Speaker 2: had the top two n L Rookie of the Year
Speaker 2: candidates in Strider and Harris, and they push them. So
Speaker 2: that is why we're all shocked, and for him to
Speaker 2: be sent down a trip is pretty eye opening for
Speaker 2: all of us. And it's hard to not say that
Speaker 2: he's a huge loser in this because he was a
Speaker 2: top two hundred pick who is going to start at
Speaker 2: Triple A, no homers, and really I think there's a
Speaker 2: big question about his glove because they work so much
Speaker 2: in the off season and in spring about him being
Speaker 2: a shortstop.
Speaker 3: For him to not make.
Speaker 2: It really makes me wonder if they are going to
Speaker 2: try to push him back in another position in the
Speaker 2: minor leagues or they're just going to dance around until
Speaker 2: they can get this to work. But von Grissom number
Speaker 2: one on the biggest losers.
Speaker 1: I would be buying him in Doyna se Leges right
Speaker 1: now because I think he's a hard working kid. I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of things about him, and I watched
Speaker 1: him working on the defense too. I would be buying
Speaker 1: because I could make you can buy in cheap and
Speaker 1: those Braves prospects have a really good pedigree. Typically more
Speaker 1: of them tend to hit than they don't, and the
Speaker 1: ones that don't you can see right away, like the
Speaker 1: waters of the world and the Paschas of the world.
Speaker 1: I got look those guys for two minutes. I was like,
Speaker 1: well that guy's never going to be a thing. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just did. Sometimes you just know when you're around
Speaker 1: the game. For all as long as I've been in
Speaker 1: Welsh has been you just know these things. But for
Speaker 1: the most part, they are so good.
Speaker 2: And the positive is is I don't think this was
Speaker 2: about the bat. I don't think because he hit three
Speaker 2: seventy one in spring. This was a defensive thing, so
Speaker 2: that gives us a lot of where that'sche was the difference.
Speaker 2: Pache was a Gold Glove defensive outfielder, but it was
Speaker 2: the bat that didn't get caught up. The Braves are
Speaker 2: a team that don't need that offense from Grissom right now,
Speaker 2: and that's why RCA might be a nice little compliment.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to learn their lessons soon. But
Speaker 2: no doubt spring biggest loser von Grissom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, so all right for me. First got on
Speaker 1: the list is actually somebody that you've been warning us
Speaker 1: all about, and to be honest with you, I haven't
Speaker 1: really seen too much of him this spring, so I
Speaker 1: had to go check out the numbers and it's Dylan Cees.
Speaker 1: It has not been good this spring, and I think
Speaker 1: all the regression that everyone's been talking about potentially that
Speaker 1: has been in there. Yes, he's going to strikeout guys.
Speaker 1: He did have some good strikeout numbers this spring. He
Speaker 1: was up to on the strikeout range a good number.
Speaker 1: They're seventeen to twelve there, so he's a really good spot.
Speaker 1: The problem, twelve walks is the problem. You know, seventeen
Speaker 1: strike out to the sixty things. You like that. The
Speaker 1: twelve walks, oh, that's a problem. The one eight to
Speaker 1: eight whip, that's a problem. The seven point three to
Speaker 1: one era. Now look, I remember the year that Zach
Speaker 1: Grienki won the cy Young for the Royals. He had
Speaker 1: an era of twelve in the spring or something ridiculous
Speaker 1: and he dropped so far and drafts people were like,
Speaker 1: oh my god's he heard something wrong. Some guys it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: But when he just gave up eleven earned runs, by
Speaker 2: the way in one start in spring, I just want
Speaker 2: to point out he got absolutely wapped.
Speaker 1: And that happened sometimes where guys are like, I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing fastballs today, like that's all I'm doing, And that
Speaker 1: happened sometimes. So I don't want to freak out about it,
Speaker 1: but it is one thing where you have expectations of
Speaker 1: regression a little bit from what a guy did last year,
Speaker 1: and then you don't see him have a great spring
Speaker 1: or get lit up once or twice. It concerns me
Speaker 1: just a little. I'm not freaking out. I still think
Speaker 1: he's a top twenty five pitcher without a doubt, but
Speaker 1: he was going closer to that top ten universe, and
Speaker 1: I think that's a conversation that we've been trying to
Speaker 1: have all year long. Spring did not make that conversation
Speaker 1: easier to have. Next on your list of loser as
Speaker 1: wells who is it from Spring?
Speaker 2: Well, you know this Nay might not jump out to you,
Speaker 2: but he was all but a lock for at least
Speaker 2: a DH spot coming into this spring. And guess what
Speaker 2: optioned out. It's Wanda Pez And unfortunately he is one
Speaker 2: of the catalysts and the results of Jordan Walker making
Speaker 2: this team and wan Ya Pez didn't have a good
Speaker 2: Spring either two twenty four with a sub three hundred OBP.
Speaker 2: He did have a bunch of RBIs and one homer,
Speaker 2: only thirteen hits in fifty eight at bats with barely
Speaker 2: over a six hundred ops. And you know they had
Speaker 2: other options like Dylan Carlson is not someone that they
Speaker 2: had to keep up. He had Alec Burlson. I'm not
Speaker 2: even caring, nor do I care about options or anything
Speaker 2: like that. This is what gets them going there. But
Speaker 2: Yepez has been a little bit of a question defensively.
Speaker 2: So the bat has to play, and this was a
Speaker 2: guy that if you're hitting six or seven in the
Speaker 2: Cardinals lineup as a big bat, first power guy. There
Speaker 2: actually was a lot of sneaky potential there this spring.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just about Walker. It was also a really
Speaker 2: really poor spring. I will point out he was played
Speaker 2: in the Dominican Winner League. He got really sick, lost
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of weight, had a horrific Dominic Dominican
Speaker 2: Winner League, and I think that might have carried over
Speaker 2: a little bit. So he actually might be a sneaky
Speaker 2: by long term. But this spring brought out a huge,
Speaker 2: huge spring loser in Wanya Pez.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how to phrase this except that
Speaker 1: my number two guy on my list is maybe the
Speaker 1: anti Kellernick. You know, if Jared Kellernick needed it was
Speaker 1: that prospect on his last leg who needed to have
Speaker 1: a really good spring kind of capitalize on that and
Speaker 1: give you good feelings. I think this is the end
Speaker 1: of the Joe Adell train. I mean, Joe Adell was
Speaker 1: a very highly regarded prospect everywhere for many years now,
Speaker 1: and he's gotten more than one opportunity, and I think
Speaker 1: a good Spring would have gone a very long way
Speaker 1: to maybe map out the rest of his career being
Speaker 1: a major leaguer. But Welsh, you get two twenty nine,
Speaker 1: forty eight at bats. Now, he did have a couple
Speaker 1: of homers, he did a four homers, but here's the
Speaker 1: bigger problem. Twenty two strikeouts in those forty eight at bats.
Speaker 1: That ain't going to get it done. To me, that's
Speaker 1: a guy that is still not having good pitch recognition skills,
Speaker 1: a guy's not getting the good pitch to hit, a
Speaker 1: guy who's not taking good at bats making good contact.
Speaker 1: He had two walks, two walks all spring, twenty two strikeouts.
Speaker 1: He had one stolen base, so he's an athletic kid.
Speaker 1: But the one stolen base one caught stealing. The ops
Speaker 1: was seven to seventy five. Again, he did have a
Speaker 1: couple bombs, but we all know Spring is not the
Speaker 1: great judge of power.
Speaker 2: Yes, Miguel Vargas had a fractured finger, and he guarded
Speaker 2: three walks when pitchers.
Speaker 1: Knew he couldn't sing.
Speaker 3: I just want to point that out.
Speaker 2: More walks when he couldn't swing, and pictures new than
Speaker 2: Joe adept at all.
Speaker 1: What more can one say than that? I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's all we can say about Joe Adele. Is jo
Speaker 1: Adell done? Like?
Speaker 3: He just hasn't showl?
Speaker 2: Like there was this book a couple of years back
Speaker 2: about like really high velocity fastballs because he was trying
Speaker 2: to cheat and he couldn't catch up to them, and
Speaker 2: he still can't. Like I I haven't seen any new
Speaker 2: pit Like if you throw him a meat fastball down,
Speaker 2: can Joe Adele hit it four fifty?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Can he run like the wind?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: But he can't hit.
Speaker 2: He can't hit for average, he can't hit consistently, and
Speaker 2: really good pictures are going to eat him for lunch
Speaker 2: every single day.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe Joidell is going to be a really late bloomer.
Speaker 2: I could see that because he's a pretty smart, competitive guy.
Speaker 2: But I just don't know how it's going to look
Speaker 2: because I don't know how many opportunities you still have,
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to be sitting around to watch
Speaker 2: that turnaround.
Speaker 3: So I'm out on jo Adell.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the biggest loser of spring.
Speaker 1: We don't mean in wait, we mean in possible value.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with another cardinal here, and I'm going
Speaker 2: with Jack Flaherty. Jack Flaherty really real bounce back potential
Speaker 2: that everybody was hoping for. But this spring has been
Speaker 2: more of the same. He's had five starts, he's had
Speaker 2: an over six era, he's had less strikeouts than walks
Speaker 2: and almost a one seven whip. Things don't look right.
Speaker 2: Things don't look like they're ever going to get right.
Speaker 2: There's continuous health concerns, and he didn't show any pot
Speaker 2: like we saw Lucas Giolito come back and have a
Speaker 2: really good spring and have positive signs. We've seen lots
Speaker 2: of people come back from these runs and reshow their stuff.
Speaker 2: Flarerity's not that. Flarity is showing more inconsistencies. He's showing
Speaker 2: very hitable pitches and his results look like garbage. And
Speaker 2: it is spring. But I don't know what you're working on.
Speaker 2: You're working on getting hit. I don't know what other
Speaker 2: the thing You're like, oh, we're working on fastballs. You're
Speaker 2: working on BP fastballs all day long. So I have
Speaker 2: to say I couldn't be more out on flerity where
Speaker 2: there are possibilities. Von Grissom might be the biggest loser,
Speaker 2: but there's a possibility he comes back. I don't think
Speaker 2: Flarity's draftable at this point. I don't know why we're
Speaker 2: doing it. I would rather take a shot on a
Speaker 2: million other guys. So Spring I think kind of did
Speaker 2: it in as a final nail in the coffin for
Speaker 2: Jack Flerty.
Speaker 1: Hey, somebody asked me this morning on Twitter, responded to
Speaker 1: one of our shows and one of the clips. He said,
Speaker 1: you know I've got Jack Flaherty. Can I drop him
Speaker 1: from Wiznsky? And I was like, yeah, easily, I would
Speaker 1: go for it. Like what do you have to lose
Speaker 1: at this point? I mean, and that sounds crazy if
Speaker 1: I said that to somebody, you know what a year ago.
Speaker 1: But we're living in the that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to be living in the now and
Speaker 1: find another gig somewhere. Is Kestonhiro. Once upon a time,
Speaker 1: this is a guy people thought and the Brewer system
Speaker 1: was going to win batting titles.
Speaker 3: I thought he was going to be amazing. This is
Speaker 3: oh man, this is what he is.
Speaker 1: One of these guys Welsh, if you like. I remember
Speaker 1: watching him in the minor leagues and thinking, yeah, this
Speaker 1: guy's getting this guy's good, he's really good. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I watched a couple at bats even last year,
Speaker 1: and it's just like a completely different person. I think
Speaker 1: he got way too home run happy, way too pole happy,
Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, he is gonna find
Speaker 1: his way somewhere else. He got DFA today. Thirty two
Speaker 1: at bats this spring for him five hits, three or rbi,
Speaker 1: one run, scored, a one to fifty six batting average,
Speaker 1: a two to twenty nine OBP, and a four to
Speaker 1: forty eight OPS. I mean, I just don't know what
Speaker 1: becomes of you, Like, I don't know if another major
Speaker 1: league team says we can get this guy right. But
Speaker 1: it's such a dramatic fall with him and Adell. These
Speaker 1: were two guys. If people were in dynasty leagues coveting,
Speaker 1: and now one of them just got Dfaid and Joe Adell,
Speaker 1: I'll be getting close to being out of options, literally,
Speaker 1: and figuratively.
Speaker 3: At some point I loved this guy. I actually it's
Speaker 3: Welsh doing it.
Speaker 2: Iron review both Adele and the Heira, and here in
Speaker 2: the AFL he won the MVP and I think he
Speaker 2: might have won the batting title as well. Hit like
Speaker 2: three seventy. I was there literally in his pro debuts
Speaker 2: on the backfields of the Mariners and are with the Brewers,
Speaker 2: and you know, really easy swing, good in hands, just
Speaker 2: good approach, and it just fell apart. And the leg kick.
Speaker 2: He had this injury when he first came out, and
Speaker 2: he wasn't really utilizing his leg a whole bunch, and
Speaker 2: then in the spring the leg got really high, and
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just think he was always behind.
Speaker 2: His timing got messed up, and I think it just
Speaker 2: kept falling back. I hope some hitting coach can get
Speaker 2: a hold of him, but yeah, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: And that one actually hurts more than Adele Kessen Heira
Speaker 2: I feel like was more of a wrong in my
Speaker 2: eyes than even Adele was, because, like you said, I
Speaker 2: thought this guy, if anything, was going to hit for average,
Speaker 2: and that is the last thing on the planet he's doing.
Speaker 1: One more winner it's definitely David Peterson for the Mets
Speaker 1: to getting that fifth starter role. I told everybody I
Speaker 1: did a video in what February about you know the
Speaker 1: guys that are going to break out, the guys that
Speaker 1: you should be targeting early in drafts because it was
Speaker 1: only a matter of time before they got spots. He's
Speaker 1: the fifth starter, He's the lefty. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be a genius to figure this out. Like I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but it was definitely a good spring for
Speaker 1: a lot of players, definitely a bad spring for some others.
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