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Speaker 1: This is me eat your podcasting in you shirtless, severely

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Speaker 1: folk bitten and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You

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Speaker 1: can't predict anything. Okay, we're joined today by Adam Weatherbye,

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Speaker 1: like the actual weather Be. Like. When I hear weather Be,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking weather Be. Right, That's that's who we are.

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Speaker 1: Are there other weatherbies running around who aren't weatherbies? You know?

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Speaker 1: There was some ount in California where we came from

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Speaker 1: Everybody says, are you weather Be with the gun company?

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Speaker 1: I say yes, And out there they said, are you

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Speaker 1: with the furniture company? Yeah? That kind of speaks. That

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Speaker 1: speaks to the state mentality to it does and your

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Speaker 1: your your wife, Brenda? Can I be am? I being presumptuous?

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Speaker 1: Are you? What's your last name? Brenda? Alright? Well, you

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Speaker 1: know it's always been there are there are some women

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Speaker 1: she is proud to have the weather Be name. She

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Speaker 1: because the furniture company. Right, that's right. She thought, cool,

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Speaker 1: we're getting cool sofas. And now she's a hunter. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're high school sweethearts. Actually, so we've been together for

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Speaker 1: since she was years fourteen and I was fifteen and yeah,

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Speaker 1: married twenty three together. You guys started dating at fourteen

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Speaker 1: and fifteen. Yeah, and I didn't know what a weather

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Speaker 1: be was when I started dating. She didn't grow up

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Speaker 1: for other reasons, like dot let's discuss the radar. Are

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Speaker 1: you in in fourteen and fifty freshmen in high school?

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Speaker 1: And you guys didn't like have little breakups and the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: parents had to drop us off, Like our first date

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Speaker 1: was foreign to me, so I had to call my dad.

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Speaker 1: He came down to pick us up and help pay

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Speaker 1: the bill. No, it's a little local thing called a

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Speaker 1: not long John Silver's no Perkins since fourteen and fifteen,

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Speaker 1: you guys got a hot tip. You got a hot

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Speaker 1: tip for marriage. Be friends, really really good friends. That

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Speaker 1: is not what Adam was going to say. Be passionate friends.

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Speaker 1: How about no we're just we are. We're just best friends.

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Speaker 1: We've just always even in high school whatever, we just

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Speaker 1: we've just been best friends. And now we're running a

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Speaker 1: third generation family business together. So we do that together.

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Speaker 1: So it's late at night, like ten thirty and she

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Speaker 1: So you guys do you guys do some boundaries? We

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Speaker 1: try to have bounties like certain times like hey, we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna talk about business. Then it's like quiet, We're

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Speaker 1: both like I have something. Could we just bake the

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Speaker 1: real really quick? That's what's on your mind? Yeah? Yeah, uh.

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Speaker 1: You guys had some fights though, we're not we're not

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Speaker 1: real fighters. Actually you can hold up years Mary years

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, a little disputes. Do you love

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Speaker 1: a little, but is he wonderful to your mother? Um?

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Speaker 1: Where are we going with this? Just trying to find

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Speaker 1: good kids, good kids. So you guys should have a

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Speaker 1: uh luke, and I am VP of sales marketing. We

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Speaker 1: But that was a good question, I adam, do you

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Speaker 1: like like like big mountain people, you know, like mountaineers

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Speaker 1: be more aerodynamic. Right, and so in certain is not aerodynamic.

425
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: That's why bullets are not square now. They used to

426
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: be round, round, square. We've done well and worse with

427
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: round bullets, right, I mean, but but yeah, all of them. Yeah,

428
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: So what's popular now are higher BC bullets, meaning that

429
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: a lot you have a lot of longer bullets that

430
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: are seated out farther closer to kind of where the

431
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: rifling is there in the chamber. So folks are seating

432
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: it out further and that high BC in the bullet,

433
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: that is it coefficient. No, I want to explain that

434
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: part about seated out farther, so people can picture like

435
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: an empty case, like a shell case, and then a

436
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: shell case crimps onto the bullet. I think some people,

437
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: like my kids, have the idea. I feel that they

438
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: think that the whole damn thing bullet casing that it

439
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: all comes out, and I was explaining to them that

440
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: took one apart and showing like what actually happens. So

441
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: like the bullets in the casing, you're saying that, uh,

442
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: the bullet protrudes further from the casing and actually touches

443
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: before it gets close to us. Jump from when when

444
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: you pull the trigger, the firing pin goes forward, it

445
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: hits the back of the case where the primer is.

446
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: The primary nights right, So you pull the trigger, the

447
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: firing pin goes forward, it hits the primer, the primary

448
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: ignites the powder that's within the case, and it launches

449
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: the projectile out forward. If everything works well, right, and

450
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: so all of that that happens, I mean, we're talking

451
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: it's sixty thousand p s I that's taking place in

452
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: there in order for this to happen in a you know,

453
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: split second that that's taking place. But a lot of

454
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: your accuracy happens within that you know, fraction of a

455
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: fraction of a second. There is that bullet launches forward,

456
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: and there's different you know powders that burn at different rates,

457
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: and so all of those things, and then you get

458
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: into barrels and rates of twists and lands and grooves

459
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: and it gets pretty you know, there's a lot of

460
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: technical things because if you think about it, these guys

461
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: are shooting what you know, a a thousand yards. Stuff is

462
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: just super popular. But in order to do that, like

463
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: all of those things, from the cartridge itself, the chamber,

464
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: the barrel, the way everything is lined up, even the

465
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: way that the barrel was trued up next to the action,

466
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: all of those things. If you're off half an inch

467
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: at a hundred yards and times up by ten, right,

468
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you shoot a two inch group

469
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: at a hundred yards, you know, it just multiplies it

470
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: further you get out there. And so what's the popularity

471
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: is off a lot of this long range shooting and

472
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: so rifles, ammunition, all of that has to be so

473
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: precise right now, I think in order to kind of

474
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: kind of, I don't know, follow up with this trend

475
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: that's opening for long range, I just totally got off

476
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: on a tangent. This is what we do. Uh No,

477
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: I think you're like you were, you were tearing it up.

478
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: I think you're tearing it upright right right, Okay, I

479
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: just want to touch on this little pet subject to

480
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: mind though, real quick. Um our short mags now like

481
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: totally out of fashion. They're in and they've kind of

482
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a resurgence, so people you

483
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: can still shoot them and be cool if that's what

484
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: you're looking one, and I don't want people to look down.

485
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: I meant to absolutely no, absolutely not. I can't. I

486
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: kind of I've I've sort of kept it. I collected now,

487
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: right the one I have. Okay, so you're saying we're

488
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: talking about proprietary cartridges, walk me back to the to

489
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: the infancy of weather b because you're saying that's how

490
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: you guys got started. Yeah, it wasn't even guns. So

491
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: Grandpa Roy Weatherby, So this is like your legit grandpa,

492
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: your father's father. My father's father, Roy Edward weather Be

493
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: That my dad was Roy Weatherby Jr. I didn't get

494
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: the Roy, but I do have middle name Edward. I'm

495
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: still in there, right, So I'm oldest of third generation.

496
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: So grandpa born in rural Kansas, seven older sisters, share cropper,

497
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: like doesn't own the shirt on his back type of guy.

498
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: They kept going they wanted a boy so bad. Yeah

499
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: they got Roy, they got Roy eighth. Try right, and

500
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: he actually had an older brother that died at a

501
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: very young age, so he grew up as the only boy,

502
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: but actually had a large household, yes, with pretty much

503
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: no house share, cropping cotton, a little bit of everything. Um.

504
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: It's out of Salina, Kansas, which I white tail hunted

505
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: with my dad. We went two years ago on the

506
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: same creek where he started trapping and shooting crows for

507
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: neighbors and got his love for the outdoors. Hundred years

508
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: ago we went and hunted the same creek, probably downstream

509
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: five to ten miles and uh, shot my first Kansas

510
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: white tailor. It's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, Grandpa

511
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: grew up out there, wanted a better life, moved west,

512
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: went to California, brought my grandma Camilla. Okay, our women's

513
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: rifle line is named after mc Grahmma Camilla, and they moved.

514
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: He told me that I think I forgot it already.

515
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: It's a good story, you shouldn't remember it. So we

516
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: so they moved out. He didn't hardly own anything, started

517
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: selling insurance and it was still like into the outdoors.

518
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Kind of growing up in Kansas on the farm stuff

519
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: like that, And got invite to go hunt and started

520
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: getting hunting a little bit with people because back then,

521
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: you it just was a pretty simple way of life, right,

522
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: And he went I think it was he went out

523
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: of state to Utah, went on a hunt, injured a deer,

524
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: and that's what drove him to his high velocity theories

525
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: and philosophies that he had that back then it was

526
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: just big bullets were the thing. And he was like, no,

527
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I think velocity is actually the thing, and that that's

528
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: going to produce energy. What back then they called that

529
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: hydrostatic shock and all those things. Is that velocity? Mean,

530
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: it's just physics, right? Why why back then is that something?

531
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: People will say that now they do, But but back then,

532
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: so we raised seventy four years from now and all

533
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: the cartridge development or just modern science and all those

534
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: different things that were there, I mean there was no

535
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: real magnums like around, so there was not I mean

536
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: these magnums pushing bullets fast. It was heavier bullets moving slower,

537
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: and that it's like, got to have the big bullets.

538
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: So his thing, catch a glimpse of some of those things?

539
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: What's that? Uh? How you could catch a glimpse of them?

540
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: We're shooting one of those old sharps, buffalo rifles. You

541
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: mean actually see the bullet, Yeah, in a bright stony day,

542
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: we're shooting, and you catch like you'd see it a

543
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: head now arcing out, Yeah, arking. So he started taking

544
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: existing cartridges and okay that we're already there. And it's

545
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: called fire forming. So if you get a chamber in

546
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: a rifle, okay, in a barrel, and it's say slightly larger,

547
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: a different shape, you can not do not try this

548
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: at home, disclaimer, but you can if you know what

549
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: you're doing. Then you can fire form a case and

550
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: it blows that case out, and then you make that

551
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: case into a different cartridge. Is called fire forming. So

552
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: my grandpa was known as a it's called a wildcatter,

553
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: and a wildcatter is one who plays with things dangerously,

554
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: like my grandpa did in his garage. So he took

555
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: like the three h and h a cartridge that was

556
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: around back and then said, let's blow this thing out

557
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: and make it bigger. One of the things that he

558
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: did was he took the wall the shoulder of the cartridge.

559
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: As you move up towards the bullet, there's the shoulder,

560
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: and he rounded it it's called the weatherbe Ventury shoulders.

561
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: So our fourteen proprietary cartridges, if you look at him,

562
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: have those rounded shoulders pretty much sharp. There's no sharp angle.

563
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: And part of that was the way that the powder

564
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: kind of runs in there and flows out, and it

565
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: also really kind of blows it out and makes a

566
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: little bit larger, and you use a little bit more

567
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: capacity and fit more powder in there cartridge feeding exactly.

568
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: It's it's smoother ramp on the way in. So he

569
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: started writing letters to editors and magazines and just things

570
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: like this. He's just so passionate about his philosophy of

571
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: bullets moving faster and we can shoot things further and

572
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: the energy is gonna be out the further and it's

573
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: gotta go fast, fast, fast. He wrote a letter to

574
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: the editor sports a Field in the early forties and

575
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: they put in their magazine just like the guys were

576
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: emailing about Bamby, right, and then here we are talking

577
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: about So they did that. So Roy Weatherby's things started,

578
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: and from there officially started where he was rechambering people's

579
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: rifles for his cartridges, and it all went from there.

580
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: So from n to nine for the first thirteen years.

581
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: It was really about custom rifle builds on like German,

582
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: these mauser actions and these other things that he was

583
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: using those and he just had his cartridges. And that's

584
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: what put us on the map first was what we

585
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: call a whether be ballistic superiority. In other words, our

586
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: stuff moves fast. I'm a little bit confused fire forming like. Okay,

587
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: so grand Grandpa has he makes a chance. I understand

588
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: what's he's starting with and what's he winding up with. Sure,

589
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: as far as gun wins he has, he hasn't existing.

590
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: He hasn't tell me a cartridge back then that he

591
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: could have started with two. So if there's one that's

592
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: really similar to another one, that's the thing. If you

593
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: look up look at a book of cartridge, just look

594
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: how many there are? Right? Or Sammy, who's the governing agency?

595
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: S A A M. I. I'm getting real technical here, right,

596
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: But that's the governing agency O over Like all these

597
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: things about cartridges and names and you know, all the

598
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: things and the pressures and everything, that's our governing agency.

599
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: We gotta play by their rules in order for everything

600
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: be safe. You look in the book, like all there

601
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: are so many cartridges that are out there, and what's

602
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: happened is a lot of them are made, and then

603
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: there's a parent case, and then there's stuff real similar.

604
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: And that's the funny thing about these kind of these

605
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: wildcatters and these handloaders and these kind of ballistic guys,

606
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: is like the geek out and like maybe it's somebody

607
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: that's not into it. It's like the smallest change, but

608
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my gosh, it's revolutionary. They freak out

609
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: about it. Right, So he took you can take a

610
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: case and if you make have a barrel made, okay,

611
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: And so you can have a barrel made, uh with

612
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: Reamer's right. And actually it's just a machine shop. Right,

613
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: So my grandpa could say, I want the chamber in

614
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: the barrel to look like this. I'm gonna call it

615
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: the three hundred weather be Magnum and I'm gonna make

616
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: a chamber. Well wait a minute, Roy, there's no mm

617
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: O for that. Well I'm gonna take this, I know, Yeah,

618
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this. Three was really similar. It's got

619
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: a straight angled walls, shoulders right where it comes up

620
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: towards the bullet, straight angle there, it's not rounded. But

621
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: then what I can do and it's maybe mine's a

622
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: little bit longer, but I think all the dimensions line

623
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: up that I'm gonna put this amo in there, and

624
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: when you pull the trigger, it's gonna that powder is

625
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna stretch that brass. Brass has you know, a stretchiness

626
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: to it if you would, right, I think that's the

627
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: technical that it almost HiT's like a liquefied state every

628
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: time you pull the trigger and then solidifies again. I

629
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I mean, but to the

630
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: point that it literally wherever it's in, right, So that's

631
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: what it does, is it goes, here's my chamber. You've

632
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: got sixty p s. I that's a lot, right, I mean,

633
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it sounds like about your

634
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: your tire on your truck, what is it fifty? Right?

635
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: Or think about I don't know, even like a scuba

636
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: tanks what like three thousand right, so more than scoopa tank,

637
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: more on a tire by long shot geologic pressure. So

638
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: it's like so that brass will stretch then when you

639
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: eject it often if do not try this at home.

640
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: But when Roy was ejected, he pulled that bolt up.

641
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: It's like whoa Okay, bolt's little steaky. I pulled it up,

642
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: I ejected out. I just made my own shape. I

643
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: just made my own brass out of somebody else's by

644
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: having somebody make a barrel. So what was what was

645
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: his initial customer base, Like a lot of deer hunters

646
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: or sports shoot or what. Yeah, you know, we've always

647
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: predominantly been really hunting focused. It's uh, you know, we

648
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: say like our vision statements, we exist to inspire the

649
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: dreams of hunters and shooters are fluffy phrase. We say

650
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: right because we believe our products are out there and

651
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: it's more than just the products we make. Its memories

652
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: is taking your kids out, It's being with granddad, it's us.

653
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: You know, we're out last week shooting peasants. Memories, it's more,

654
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: it's more than just a tool. And so for hunting,

655
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: I think that happens Brenda and I. We've shared hunts

656
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: with my my, my kids, my dad. We make a

657
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: product that just happens to like be a part of

658
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: that and get passed down through generations like Grandpa weather

659
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: Bees first thirteen years his customer base. What kind of

660
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: people were reaching out to him? I don't know, dude,

661
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't around gun a lot of gun nuts and

662
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: then a lot of guys that what then when he

663
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: started doing is right when like commercial airlines just took

664
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: off and like it was a t w A or

665
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: what are those ones? Brenda did or senior project on

666
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: my grandpa. She was a history major. Did you meet

667
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: did you meet him? Or was he already you? Guys

668
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: didn't passot. But I did get to hang out with

669
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: Camilla a bit. She actually superstory. Yeah, she we had

670
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: a close relationship with Graham had Alzheimer's and was tough.

671
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: So she lived with this last few years and Brenda

672
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: and her twin sister took care of Yeah. Yeah, she's

673
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: a special lady. Was that pretty rough? Yeah? Well, I

674
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: didn't really know her before Alzheimer's. Actually met her when

675
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: I was fifteen. I went to her house and she

676
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: dragged me around showing me things. But for some reason,

677
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: she always just took a liking to meet, even though

678
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: she didn't really know who I was. And then you know,

679
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: I later on in life got to take care of herself.

680
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: She just rediscovered that she liked you every time she

681
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: met you. Yes, I mean she just would snuggle up

682
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: to me, and people go like she what if she

683
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: doesn't do that to anyone? So she was special. She

684
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: was very special. So what my grandpa did He then

685
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: started going to Africa and on planes game of which

686
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: then was and still is in many parts. There's a

687
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: lot of it. There, a lot of game, and so

688
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: he wanted to see what what this actually did and

689
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: the higher velocity and the differences and bullets and all

690
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: those different things. Is is how his whole thing was,

691
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: I want to provide a quicker, more humane kill on

692
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: these animals. And that was what drove him, was more

693
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: one shot kills and and at greater distances, especially back

694
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: then it was just so close up with those heavy

695
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: moving bullets. So he did several trips to Africa. We

696
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: have old reel to reel like and on the dictaphone

697
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: things and all these recordings, tons of podcast I mean,

698
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: he did it. I mean it was pretty crazy in

699
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: the fifties basically, however you do that, Yeah, And then

700
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: he would come home and share them with anyone and everyone.

701
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: He would actually go and yeah, visit these groups and

702
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: show them old reels and people would go, oh my gosh,

703
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: I've never seen Africa before. So it was like they

704
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: were living in sound. You know, yeah, we have them

705
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: on DVD. You know a little you hear the thing

706
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: going and there's roy and he kills something goes up

707
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: to it, and you know, just it's pretty cool. So

708
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: that really kind of vlidified. Coming back to the question,

709
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: there was the shooting, but he's a passionate hunter and

710
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: really the drive for the velocity was out based off

711
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: of hunting and based off of ethical hunting, and that's

712
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: what drove him and I think that's why we got

713
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: such a folloween from the hunting community. So was he

714
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: what's it called when you, uh, you can pattent around

715
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: I gather, Yeah, ours aren't. I mean, it's a What

716
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: happens is if you come up with that particular shape

717
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: of that cartridge, of which then the barrel chamber is

718
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: going to be, then you name it something. What's funny

719
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: is the naming of cartridges historically confuses more new hunters

720
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: than anything else. It's like, in trying to explain it,

721
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: there's certain people like I tried to explain it to

722
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: like nine times, and I consider myself a decent communicator,

723
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: and like I fail at it because of the way

724
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: it's been and when what happens is they're like, Okay,

725
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: it's a thirty cow bullet, and you're like, we was

726
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: a three O eight thirty six or three in your

727
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: windmag at three in your weather Be. Like you start

728
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: to go down the list of thirty thirty you try

729
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: to go, now, that's all the same bullet. But then

730
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: you showing the cartridges and they all look different, and

731
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: they just like the brain blows up. People that are

732
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: new to the shooting or hunting community, you know what

733
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And and so what happens is really is

734
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: when you come up with a cartridge. So we have

735
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: a three in a weather Be magnum, right, you name

736
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: that cartridge. And when you name it and you stamp

737
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: it on, there's three w B y mag. That's saying

738
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: that cartridge which happens to be this size, in this

739
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: shape and holds this much powder and will fit in

740
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: this gun needs too on the side of the rifle

741
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: and on side of that barrel. It needs to say

742
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: three weather Be mag and it's shooting a thirty cow bullet.

743
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: So you could go develop a Ranella something something, and

744
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: just go develop something and then Sammy, that organization I

745
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: was talking about kind of solidifies if you get it.

746
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: Sammy serve either like, this is it. But there's a

747
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: lot of these still kind of wildcatting things, and guys

748
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: make barrels for them and all those things. You just

749
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: need to make sure whatever it says on that case

750
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: head is whatever it says on that barrel, and those

751
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: two things have to match because it's the shape. You

752
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: need the shape of that cartridge to go inside of there.

753
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: But then you get into bullets, and you're like, that's

754
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: when I try to explain, you know to people that

755
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: are new. Okay, well, then you have different sized bullets,

756
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: which is really just the diameter of the bullet, not

757
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: the case. Going back to what your kids believe, right,

758
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: So take that bullet diameter. So a thirty caliber bullet

759
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: is a diameter of point three zero eight inches, But

760
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: you can stuff that in a hundred different pieces of

761
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: brass cases, right, And that's what people sometimes get hung

762
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: up on. But it's so that's why you can have

763
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: a three weather be a three oh eight Winchester, a

764
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: thirty three seventy eight Weather be a thirty odd six.

765
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: It's all the identical bullet that you're putting in different

766
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: size cases and just people that grew up with it.

767
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: It's easy. To other people, they're like, that's really confusing.

768
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: But when you look at like a thirty six okay,

769
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: so it's a thirty caliber bullet and made six, there's

770
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: like a weird version of it. I don't think is

771
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: there any of the cartrids used as a name like

772
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: that with the year they made it. I don't know

773
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 1: another one that has the year. I'm trying to think

774
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: off hand is the grains of powder after thet think

775
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: there's no consistency to the naming of cases. So my

776
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: grandpa took but any but any time Dick and Harry

777
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: or Tom Dick or Harry could go and make and

778
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: sell thirty six bullets no bullets, you mean, but they

779
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: can't make they can't make it sell they can. I

780
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: mean the Federal has a three in a weather b

781
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: that they sell. So when they say it, I always

782
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: you hear the term proprietary. It just because it carries

783
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: the name correct, because we designed it, so we designed

784
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: carvent other manufacturers from producing that AMMO. No, And in

785
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: fact that's okay though, because it just puts our name around.

786
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: They might buy our AMMO and put it in there,

787
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: so if other people make them, were like, that's cool.

788
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't away that. I thought there's some things that

789
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: you could protect and then only that you had to

790
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: give the permission to make it. Yeah, that's where Actually

791
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: those short mags had some things on that. So there

792
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: are a few, but for the most part it's pretty

793
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: wide open. I mean it's just a yeah chamber to mension.

794
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: You put that cartridge in there, and it's kind of

795
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: way it works. Quick side note, Uh, when you know

796
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: chemical compounds, you don't patent the compound. You patent the use.

797
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: Meaning I could have like, let's say I had some

798
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: chemical compound that I realized controlled some plant species like

799
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: a weed, and you take the same chemical comp and

800
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I'm a herbicide company, and I patent that.

801
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: But you take that compound and you realize that it,

802
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, polishes glass. You would then and go

803
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: and patent it for polishing glass. Even if it's the

804
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: same chemical compound. You get the use. People find new

805
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: uses for stuff all time, and they grab up and

806
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: patent the use of that compound because you can't patent

807
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: the compound. I did not know that, did anybody else?

808
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: Who know that I might be doing a little bit

809
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: of a bad job explaining it, but it's not. I'm

810
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: not doing a horrible job of explaining. So the so

811
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: the that's how he gets started, and he comes up

812
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: with a bunch of these, rattle a few off that

813
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: folks would know. The three weather be right, seven weather

814
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: be my grandpa's favorite has normally been the number two selling.

815
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: That's your number two seller. Yeah, we came up the six,

816
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: so we neck down the three weather be to take

817
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: a six five bullet, a smaller bullet, move it faster.

818
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: Just back to kind of Grandpa's roots. There's a couple

819
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: of guys that work here that that's in their minds.

820
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: That is the cats me out the one that is

821
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: the true one rifle. It's it's fast and it pushes

822
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: energy out there really far, and that's what we're kind

823
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: of known for that kind of time, considered a wildcat.

824
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: What actually was hm there is actually uh uh my

825
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: grandpa actually made He called it to sixty four weather

826
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: be magnum because to sixty four is the inches for

827
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: the six five right, which I was gonna ask, why

828
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: how come you guys went six five instead of two

829
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: sixty or two sixty four, right, because especially with the

830
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: six five Creed Moore right now, and a lot of

831
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: people are just understanding that, I think the newer terminology.

832
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people are calling them six fives. There's

833
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: an old two sixty four wind maag nause are called.

834
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: There's the twenty six Nausler. They're all six five bullets,

835
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: there's a there's a man as, there are thirty counts.

836
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: There's still more thirties, but there's a lot of six

837
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: fives that are out there. So we correct point point

838
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: to six four six and like a seven million eaters

839
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: of two eighty four. So and that's the thing is

840
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: why you're gonna call it inches or millimeters whatever I

841
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: want to call the metric equivalent to a three o

842
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: eight or is there no exact is there no exact

843
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: cartridge that carries a metric name. Well no, yeah, I

844
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: mean the military guys, you know a lot of times,

845
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, use more than metric um a lot of

846
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: times is the way. You know, traditionally it's been um,

847
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: but with I mean usually the seven millimeter was always

848
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: most of them are called seven millimeter. Then once in

849
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: a while there's like two eighty Remington or whatever, different

850
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: things that are more off the inches. But it's just funny.

851
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: It's like why, Yeah, I don't know is that word?

852
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: Is it actually or act? So what he would do

853
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: is he would take he's a feller kind of like

854
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: your grandpa exactly. Wildcatter yea, there's wildcatters in the oil

855
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: industry too, is there? Like guys are Goalton right, wildcatter

856
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: speculators trying to strike a little yep, prove out little

857
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: chunker ground seven six to is the answer to your

858
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: question seven six to seventh. Like when you hear that,

859
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: you know what you do? Remember, like, guys, remember body's

860
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: growing up because you want to buy really cheap three

861
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: oh eight Emmily, you're going to store and it says

862
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: seven six two that's just military version of the three eight.

863
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: So you guys have a two forty Weatherby as well, right, correct,

864
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: And that thing's a screaming Winchester but faster. And the

865
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: two forty three is also a six millimeter, so there's

866
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: a new six millient creed more. But the two forty

867
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: WEATHERB is the fastest two three production round, so it

868
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: shoots a two forty three bullet faster than anybody else does.

869
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: In a production round, the two fifty seven weather Be

870
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: shoots what they got, five caliber bullet faster or six

871
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: d the fastest um or thirty three seventy eight Weatherby

872
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: is actually the fastest thirty cow. So it's a huge

873
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: case neck down to a thirty caliber bullets faster than

874
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: the three inner weather Be that came out in the

875
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: late nineties and went like berserk for a long time.

876
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: It was kind of like the six is now it

877
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: was to us in the nineties. So it's just taking

878
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: these races. I'm playing with them and trying to just

879
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: get stuff moving faster and a lot of it's a

880
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: lot of low development because speed can come at the

881
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: price of accuracy, and so it's really making both of

882
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: those things work together. Is a lot of the name

883
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: of the game of what we do tell people what

884
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: is slow and what is fast. Like let's say you

885
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: take a six five creed More, which is an efficient,

886
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: accurate cartridge, really popular weather Be. Let's say with the

887
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: hundred and forty grain bullet MEASUA bullets, which is a

888
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: goofy unit of measurement correct. Like I said, everything in

889
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: that if you didn't grow up in it. It's like,

890
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: what is this like a grain? What are you talking about?

891
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Do you remember the definition of a grain?

892
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: And so I knew that once upon a time put

893
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: on the scale. Look what I will, I mean really

894
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: originally did start from grains, I know. But it's so

895
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: a six five creed more I'll shoot like a hundred

896
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: forty grain bullet this on top of my head. So

897
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: people google it, they can probably correct meredybet a second,

898
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: where with that same one we're probably a second, same bullet.

899
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: So difference between you know, about six hundred ft per

900
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: second faster now at a hundred yards, Yeah, that matters

901
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: five hundred yards. That's everything. So what it does is

902
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: it because your foot pounds of energy that's measured of

903
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: when that bullet impacts. Obviously if it starts faster, and

904
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: if you have a high BC bullet going back to

905
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about in zerodynamic, and it carries that velocity further.

906
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: It's carrying that energy out there further and then therefore

907
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: providing for a quicker, more humane, ethical kill. Yeah, and

908
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: there's a thing we've talked about it. I can't remember

909
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: why we're talking about not long ago, but you know,

910
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: bullet needs to do something when it hits meaning it

911
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: needs to expand and form a mushroom shape or else

912
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: it's not it's it's lethality. Is that a word lethality

913
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: drops off greatly, So carrying that speed, let's that thing

914
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: do what it needs to do at the greater ranges

915
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: that are getting so slow that it just pencils in

916
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: there too fast, too fast, it can go too fast,

917
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: or it can just pencil hole through it too so.

918
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: And there's different constructions of bullets as well. We're not

919
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: a bullet manufacturer, so we have our rounds and we

920
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: use other you know, good bullets like say Horney bullet

921
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: or a Nauser bullet or whatever. We're not bullet manufacturers.

922
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: But the construction of bullets, I mean there's all copper

923
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: lead free bullets. Uh, there's you know, obviously there's lead

924
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: and most of them. But then the way that it's

925
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 1: actually constructed depends upon how it's weight retention. In other words,

926
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: like if you find it sometimes in the back height

927
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: of an animal or whatever, when you recover it, how

928
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: much weight is retained rather than its dragmenting and kind

929
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: of blowing up um or sometimes it can just pencil

930
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: hole through. So so really there's a lot that goes

931
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: into the physics behind bullet making. Why it's so important,

932
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: especially important to try to ethically, you know, kill an

933
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: animal and you know, um and not destroy meat. So

934
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: I've had animals before. If you have the wrong combination

935
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: of all that, that can ruin a lot of meat.

936
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: So I mean you probably have two shoulders of stuff

937
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: and right, it goes in there and if it hits bone,

938
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: and that's part of the problem is certain bullets. If

939
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: it hits bone, that's when it's gonna fragment. And then

940
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: if you found bullet and then you find not only bone,

941
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: but you find you know, fragments of bullet too. It

942
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: looks like a hand grenade one off, but it's perfect.

943
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: If you find a perfect mushroom bullet on the back,

944
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: you know that back cape, and you just take it

945
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: out and it's a hard shot, like there's nothing like that.

946
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: You just pull it out and you're like, that's what

947
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: this was made to do. So how did uh? So

948
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: what's the next transition? So he starts making these wildcat

949
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: rounds and mains makes the mains takes them from wildcat

950
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: to mainstream and then he said, I'm gonna make I

951
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: gotta make my own gun, like I want to make

952
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: the world strongest, most reliable action that there is. Launched

953
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: the Mark five, still our flagship product today, and that

954
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: was he took what standard had, uh like in the

955
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: bolt and he just redefined it, like from the ground up.

956
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: He took what everything else at the time had a

957
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: bolt lift of ninety degrees. I mean, you would lift

958
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: that bolt up ninety degrees before the locking lugs up

959
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: in the chamber came off so you could pull the

960
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: bolt back. And our Mark five has nine locking lugs,

961
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: three groups of three up front that lock actually that

962
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: bolt into place. And that was just like nobody's ever

963
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: done anything like that, and therefore the bolt lift is

964
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: fifty four degrees. His largest cartridge at the time was

965
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: a four sixty weather be mag Okay, which obviously used

966
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: an Africa on anything right, and uh it was mazed

967
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: made to like, dude, I'm gonna take so that's up

968
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: to a five grain bullet. So we're gonna put big

969
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: barrels and all. I just want to overbuilt, super strong, reliable,

970
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: this short bolt throw, which could make rechambering rounds quicker.

971
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: Type of thing and that was developed in and that

972
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: was really his next step. And then being in California

973
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: he leveraged the he chambered in was in the six no,

974
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: he had probably six eight cartridges came out. Yeah, So

975
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: then he leveraged being in California, which most recent times

976
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: more of a challenge for us. But the forties and

977
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, like got to know John Wayne and

978
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 1: Roy Rogers and Gary Cooper and all these guys would

979
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: come in a shop and what's now the ghetto and

980
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: started to use them to really leverage things his trip

981
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: to Africa, and then he made these real high end,

982
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: would exquisite stocks like that a lot of people still

983
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: see today as Weatherby as being is just real high

984
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: end walnut and maple and rosewood and these inlays, and

985
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: started to higher custom really craftsman for both the wood

986
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: and the metalwork, and then just started making like really nice,

987
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: beautiful rifles. And so then like really then his first

988
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: fifteen years, by probably the early fifties, he had his

989
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: cartridges developed. He developed his own rifle, had his own

990
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: unique look, the shape of the stock, the Monty Carlo,

991
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: which is that cheek piece that comes up on the

992
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: stock was unique. He had these maple inlaid diamond shaped

993
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: things on the pistol grip was in everyone. If you

994
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: walked into a store in the early days, if it

995
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: didn't have that diamond, it wasn't a weather be yea.

996
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: You know I used to have when I was a kid,

997
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: I had a pump up be begun Uh daisy uh

998
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: like ten pump and I had that diamond. They put

999
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: a plastic with the black border in the white pearl. Yeah,

1000
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: that was the thing there. It was a nice daisy then. Yeah.

1001
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, so he got into mark five. You get

1002
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: what's still around, right, It just looks a little different.

1003
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 1: Do you know the backstory on the how the cheek

1004
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: piece why he chose that, Well, a lot of it,

1005
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean from a performance standpoint, was just to better

1006
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: align yourself, you know, optically, and to to get you know,

1007
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: your your your neck and cheek placement on it better.

1008
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: And then a lot of it is he's just a

1009
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: marketing genius too, and just wanted things to be different

1010
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: and so nobody was doing that at the time, and

1011
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: so a lot of things that he did he just

1012
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: really he wanted. He wanted what he had done to

1013
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: stand out, you know. Um in the early days in

1014
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: the fifties and his fifty four he created the weather

1015
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: Be Big Game Trophy Award just still there today, which

1016
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: now today takes the weather. The award takes conservation and

1017
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: your character and different things along with your honey accomplishments,

1018
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: um and so uh So, anyways, he felt that nineteen

1019
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: fifty four and you have celebrities come in. So he

1020
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: just built the I mean it's the classic post World

1021
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: War two entreprene newer driving his dream and he poured

1022
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: every ounce of his body, mind and soul and everything

1023
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: into building the business. And that's why we're here today

1024
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: with you. So it's we call it a blessing. It's

1025
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 1: a legacy. You call it what it is, and it's

1026
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: like it's it's cool to be a part of. So

1027
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: when did he how late was it how long was

1028
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: he active? And then how did your dad become active?

1029
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: My dad had obviously growing up in the business. Dad

1030
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: was born in fifty one, so he you know, grew

1031
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: up in it. I think he became president whatever in

1032
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: eighty three. My grandpa passed away eighty eight. Um, like

1033
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: he saw the first fiberglass stock was my dad's idea,

1034
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: which we were the I think one of the first,

1035
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: if not the first company to have a nonwood stock

1036
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: in the early eighties. It was my dad's idea, and

1037
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: my grandpa hated it because that's not what a rifle

1038
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: looks ulish rifle ever seen head, Like my dad because

1039
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: he's Roy every whether be Junior went by head and

1040
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: like that's horrible aesthetic. Yeah, the beautiful stud Yeah, I'm

1041
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: not gonna plastic. So anyways, it's sold really well. And

1042
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: then my grandpa liked it, and now what we sell

1043
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: probably at least and we sell more would percentage wise,

1044
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: and probably a lot of folks because we're known for that.

1045
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: But it's still you know, in composite materials, when was

1046
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: it what a year do you think approximately was when

1047
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: it went from when? When was it when? I don't know,

1048
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: but nineties it really took off. Yeah, I like I

1049
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: remember in my lifetime, remember people talking about how you know,

1050
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, oh they're ugly as hell, but these synthetic

1051
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: stocks are pretty nice. It's like still a thing you

1052
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: would hear people say, and now they look kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, no,

1053
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's been funny to watch that transition. So, um,

1054
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: has the company always been I mean, I know, now

1055
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: we'll talk about how you just moved it to Wyoming

1056
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: and why that is. But it was just always out

1057
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: of the same place in California. My dad in the

1058
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: early nineties. So after it's been around for almost fifty years,

1059
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: shortly after my grandpa passed away, we moved from southern

1060
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: California to the Central Coast. He knew we needed to

1061
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: get out of the l A area. It just wasn't

1062
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: a good place to have a gun business, um, And

1063
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: so moved it up to the central Coast to California,

1064
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: which it was until we just moved it to Wyoming. Yeah,

1065
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: and what what happened like like, I mean, I guess

1066
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 1: you could sit and think, like, oh, California doesn't seem

1067
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: like a logical place for a for a gun company.

1068
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: But why or what? Right? Lots of things, Um, I mean,

1069
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny because we ended up going If

1070
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: you look, you kind of end up going to the

1071
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: opposite sometimes when you're feeling a little bit of pain.

1072
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: So we went from the state as far as it's

1073
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: regulations on guns, it's like the most regulated to Wyoming,

1074
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: which pretty much is not that we went from the

1075
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: most populous state at what thirty seven million to like

1076
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: a little over half the most populous the least. So

1077
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: we started to go, uh, worse taxes to make three

1078
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: years in a row. Why, I mean, like best taxes,

1079
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: no income tax ball blah. So it's it's a business thing. Uh,

1080
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: it's a people thing. Uh. Cost a living thing for

1081
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: our employees, operating expenses, turning on the lights, you know,

1082
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: everything that we that we did, along to just the

1083
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: regulations that we're just getting extremely onerous on firearms, and

1084
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: so the writing was on the wall that it was

1085
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: not a good place to be and it wasn't a

1086
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: place for us to grow. Brenda and I are the

1087
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: type of leaders with the business that we don't want

1088
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: to put this thing on cruise control and just kind

1089
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: of do what's been done. And in our industry, we

1090
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: really can't afford to do that. We you have to

1091
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: be innovative, you gotta come out with new stuff. You've

1092
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: gotta be building and growing. And we knew that the

1093
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: we'd had an excellent past in California and a lot

1094
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: of great tenured employees, uh, and and we missed a

1095
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: lot of them. Dearly that weren't able to move, but

1096
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: we knew for the future whether there was no option,

1097
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: it was just a matter of time. Did a lot

1098
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: of people want to move with you? Yeah, Brenda heads

1099
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: up all our people, um whether it be and she

1100
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: can she can speak to the people. But first I

1101
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: think there was a lot who wanted to move. But

1102
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, when you uh, you have a family or

1103
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: split custody or you know those kind of things. Um,

1104
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: I think probably fifty wanted to move, but we only

1105
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: got about twenty two out of the so a third.

1106
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: It could have been worse than that, but it's still

1107
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: been a big pain point, you know, to rehire and

1108
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: retrain two thirds of your workforce. We got a lot

1109
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: of amazing people though, Yeah, smith gains. Smiths move because

1110
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: they're like there else am I going to work in California?

1111
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: In the state the whole team. That's interesting team we had.

1112
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: We had a gentleman. You came to my grandpa when

1113
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: he was eighteen years old, first job right out of

1114
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: high school, and he just finished with us fifty seven

1115
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: years later, at the end of February fifty seven and

1116
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: a half years. Seven years. No, he worked in a

1117
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: variety of things, um from custom shop to customer service,

1118
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: to tech support to I think he's supplied to observation sales.

1119
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean he just did everything. Yeah. I was recently

1120
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: saying how Wyoming is the best state in lower forty

1121
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: eight well including Hawaii, So best state in the forty

1122
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: nine states excluding Alaska, and you were like, oh, that's

1123
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: personal opinion. I think it's a it's an objective reality.

1124
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: We we had to think of it this way. We

1125
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: wanted to be we wanted to be out of California,

1126
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: and we wanted to be in the West still because

1127
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: in our roots that's who we are. And we looked

1128
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: at least half a dozen states and we ended up

1129
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: in Wyoming. I mean, we could will be the last

1130
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: state to get screwed up. I think we're at for Alaska.

1131
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: Alaska get screwed up somehow, in Alaska will still be cool.

1132
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: Everyone will fall off the cliffs sooner or later. But

1133
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: we are at the Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got billions

1134
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: of years before you fall off. You guys fall off.

1135
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: The ocean move first, remove about three quarters of an

1136
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: inch to the northwest every year, so we got a while.

1137
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: I'd have to go do the math you've got a

1138
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: good stretched time. There's other things that do that are

1139
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: more risky, well off subject. But what does that gunsmith

1140
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: that actually works in your factory, what are their days

1141
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: look like? Like? What are they mostly because they're not

1142
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: building every gun that you guys are reducing from custom

1143
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: shop to service work, you know, so it could be

1144
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: a full blown custom Like recently, we have this commemorative

1145
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: and rifle for Wyoming and it's a fancy wood gun

1146
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: and you gotta checker bolt knobs okay, and it's fine

1147
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: line like old school gun smith checkering that we're still doing.

1148
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: So it might be something like that. Um. We also

1149
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: service seventy four years a guns, so it might be repairs, um,

1150
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, replacing our parts, those sorts of things. So

1151
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: people send in old stuff and you guys work on

1152
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: it yourselves. We have service centers as well. Um, but

1153
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: we do. We do a lot, which has been tough

1154
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: during the transition. So if you're listening to this, another

1155
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: month or two before you call us. But yeah, I

1156
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: mean we stand behind her stuff. It's like that's the

1157
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: thing you've been around a long time. It's like, you know,

1158
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how old your gun is. If it

1159
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: says weather beyond it, we're gonna answer the phone. We're

1160
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: gonna help you. So it's not like if you just

1161
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: ran it over with your truck, we're gonna giving you

1162
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: stock for free. But if it's something that you know

1163
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: broke in your gun, I mean we stand behind it.

1164
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: Jim got a shotgun stolen thirty years ago. Um police

1165
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: department just turned it up about two years ago. It

1166
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: was his only weather be shotgun, and um it was

1167
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: not in good shape, and he sent it back in.

1168
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: He guys totally redid the shotgun. He was like, best

1169
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: goddamn customer service on the planet. What's interesting, he's a

1170
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: big shotgun. Gay, Huh are you not happy about that?

1171
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: I know there's I'm happy we have happy customers. Revenue

1172
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: standpoint it as smart. Did you guys want much in California? Yeah? Yeah,

1173
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, surprisingly some decent hunting. There's

1174
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: not I've got a lot of good public land there. Um,

1175
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people there. But in the area

1176
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: we were in, um, there's a lot of pig hunting. Uh.

1177
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, turkey, dove, quail, blacktail or coastal mial deer.

1178
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: So they called it um, so one of actually an

1179
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: interesting hunt out there Brenda's first buck. Tell him about

1180
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: your first buck, you shout out there, I think for this. Yeah.

1181
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: So they have this vineyard, and obviously in central coasts

1182
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: tons of vineyards and so most of the vineyards um

1183
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: fenced these deer out. But this vineyard is kind of

1184
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: a likes hunting, so they let the deer come in,

1185
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: which does um provide um great hunting access for people,

1186
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: but also um it kind the destroy some of their crops.

1187
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: Deer want to eat the grapes. Yes, so these deer

1188
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: the leaves more that the leaves, not actually the grapes,

1189
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: the tender shoot of them. So they will lose a

1190
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: lot of grape yield from it um. But these deer

1191
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: are so happy they're sitting in the shade. It's like

1192
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: deer resort, drinking like drip. They're not fenced in. They're

1193
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: fenced out from all the other vineyards. And typically blacktail

1194
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: in California is not the best venesine. But this venisine

1195
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: is the best. It's the best in our life. Car none.

1196
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: So when she shot her her first buck was the

1197
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: vineyard buck, right, and you're you're turning your head looking

1198
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: down the rose. I shot one one year as well,

1199
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: because it is it is so good, so they actually

1200
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: take after you shoot it, they go and if it's

1201
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: in the mr Low area, they take a bottle of

1202
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: the Merlow and they cook up the heart and you

1203
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: have the heart in the mr Low in the venezine.

1204
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't thinkause the tenderloins. Whatever you did right then

1205
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: and there were just to heart, just the heart. It is,

1206
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding you. I had people over from

1207
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: the hills. I mean I've had people taste tests that

1208
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: typically our coastal California blacktail or coastal meal deer, depending

1209
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: on where they are as far as bordering it, what

1210
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: species they are, is usually very tough and pretty and

1211
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: it's just not phenomenal unless you really got to do

1212
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to it. It's not the best.

1213
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: And it is this particular one. I mean you'll put

1214
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: it next to elk, backstrap or tenderloin where I've had

1215
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: it next to i mean white tail from farmlands and everything,

1216
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: and people will taste test wise they'll pick this it's amazing.

1217
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: It's real, it's absolutely amazing, and part of it's like

1218
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: very rare though there's a conservation piece behind it too,

1219
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: of like, what about these deer that are getting you know,

1220
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: there's all these population coming in California and then you

1221
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: take these vineyards. So even when we were kids, um,

1222
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: just even thirty years ago, there's like three wineries within

1223
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: like a thirty mile radius of our old place in California.

1224
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: So they're everywhere. So what does the wildlife you know,

1225
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: tend to do and where do they live and all

1226
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: those when all of the land is when they're fencing

1227
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: all the wild life out and it used to be

1228
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: ranching land. Yeah, why why did you so you've been

1229
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: exposed to shooting in firearms for twenty some years, why

1230
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: did you on need so recently start hunting deer? This

1231
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 1: is interesting because when I met Adam, and definitely after

1232
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: we got married, they're just like the women weren't in

1233
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: the family, weren't hunting a lot. So I didn't come

1234
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: from a family of hunters, so I kind of just

1235
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: followed suit. I was like, well, I guess this is

1236
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: what you do, and the guys go out hunting and

1237
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: the girls don't you know? So um, and really I didn't.

1238
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: I always went dove hunting in the fall and that

1239
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: was just always a fun time. UM. But I didn't

1240
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: until my daughter actually wanted to get her Hunter Safety

1241
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: and so I was kind of worried she wasn't going

1242
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: to pass her test, literally, and I'm like, why don't

1243
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: we do it together, you know, because I thought it

1244
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: would be better to do that together and be able

1245
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: to go through the class and all that. And so

1246
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: as soon as you could help her cheat, well, no,

1247
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know. She's a really good test saker. I

1248
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: just had to like walk her through the dynamics of

1249
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, at what she was loven or twelve eleven,

1250
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: ten eleven something like that or something like that. UM

1251
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: and a daughter activity, yes, yes. And so right after

1252
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: we got UM, right after I got my Hunter Safety UM,

1253
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: the company was actually just launching the idea of this

1254
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: women's rifle, and so it really came at a pivotal

1255
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: time for me, UM because I had this like purpose

1256
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: to then help launch this rifle and we um women

1257
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: of weather be that was kind of what we called.

1258
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: It was really about mentoring. So I kind of, you know,

1259
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: hooked up with a you mentor Lady Hunters, and they

1260
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: took me out and helped me learn and then that

1261
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: Camilla rifle just kind of gave me a lot of opportunities,

1262
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: um to hunt for myself. And it wasn't that I

1263
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: was going out. Actually most of my hunting the first

1264
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: couple of years was not without them. It was with

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: other women. So it was just a um and with

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01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:25,480
Speaker 1: my daughter. So it was a really learning, fun experience. UM,

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: no pressure, you know. So it was just it was

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01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: really I would say with if it wasn't for the

1269
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: Camilla rifle, I probably wouldn't be the hunter that I am.

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01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: So there was kind of a push. Yeah, I've always

1271
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: bren has always been passionate about cooking and about eating

1272
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: healthy and you know, as a family and all those

1273
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: kind of things. So I think that part of it

1274
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: was always natural to her too, and so that I

1275
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: think it was one piece that pulled you in as well. Yeah.

1276
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: I remember my first pig hunt. That was my first

1277
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: big game animal. And if you call pig big game,

1278
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: but um yeah, yeah, yeah that's a big pig. But

1279
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know, like they're like, do you want to

1280
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: do this? And I'm like, well, I guess I should try.

1281
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to feel afterwards, And

1282
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: everyone says, oh, I could never do that, and like, well,

1283
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do it or not,

1284
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: but I guess I'm gonna try, and then I can

1285
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: always say no that didn't work out for me. Um. So,

1286
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: but after I shot my first pig, I was like,

1287
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: that was awesome. That was so it was just a

1288
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: positive experience. Um. And then I took home all this

1289
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: meat and I was like, this is so cool. So

1290
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 1: the meat part like actually put me over the fence

1291
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: way more than the than really the experience, I mean

1292
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: experience was awesome, but like I got to enjoy this

1293
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: meat and cook it for my family for like months.

1294
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: That was just amazing, satisfying validity to the whole thing. Yeah,

1295
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, I may never have to try a t

1296
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: bone again. Like that was amazing, this tangible thing that

1297
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 1: comes from it. Yes, do you help with your daughter much? Yeah,

1298
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: she enjoyed it. She does enjoy it. She's a very

1299
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: busy girl, um in high school doing sports, doing this

1300
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: of that. But she is, um, she's quite a little firecracker.

1301
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: She um. Yeah, she can just run. I'm like, no one.

1302
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: She's a great shot and she'll carry anything on her

1303
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: back a lot longer than you would ever think she

1304
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: could us in Dana, our daughter shot in antelope this

1305
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: last year, and and she just because she wanted to.

1306
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: There's eight guys with her, but she had sleut slewt

1307
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: the um antelope on her backpack. Here the whole thing

1308
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: just feel justed and she packed it out probably three

1309
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: quarters of a mile on her back the animal. Yeah,

1310
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean it was just purely off of, well, I

1311
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: want to do more because you know antelope puns. Just yeah,

1312
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: it's more kind of social. And then we had a

1313
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 1: great stock and super fun and and then she's like, well,

1314
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: can't I help, like get this thing out? And I

1315
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: was like, all, stuff that thing in your backpack for

1316
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: you if you want to do it. And it was

1317
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: like the highlight of my hunting season. It was awesome,

1318
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: like her attitude and she's just like she kind of

1319
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 1: stopped and just in the pack a couple of times

1320
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: and lifted up and gave her a break once or twice,

1321
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: and she said, okay, yeah, it was so cool, really cool.

1322
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: Sixty she's been fifteen. Then that's awesome. When you say

1323
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: a woman's rifle, how's that like? How is it actually

1324
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: different than than a Yeah, I've been talking about guns

1325
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: a lot, Brenda. Yeah, the kamilla um organomically is different.

1326
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: So the stock itself is different. So shorter length of poll,

1327
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: um slimmer grip. You want to explain lin, sorry, length

1328
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: of poll. So this is I'm gonna probably butcher length

1329
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: the poll I mean, don't just explain it. Yeah, So

1330
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: your arms are shorter. Most women's arms are shorter, and

1331
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: so a full length rifle feels really big and feels

1332
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: off balance to them between date the but stocks on

1333
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: your shoulder and where your finger pulls from the end

1334
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: of the stock to the trigger. Correct. Yeah, So when

1335
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: we're designing it, we had five different um women. They're

1336
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: all of different kind of statures, and we a lot

1337
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: of very experienced hunters, yeah, and guides and stuff, and

1338
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: so we basically took all of our measurements and we

1339
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: tried to come up with something that would um you know,

1340
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: it's not a custom rifle because everyone would have a

1341
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: different length of pull, but it was you know, similar,

1342
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: so it would um fit that person and even just

1343
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: the curves of it, the shape of it. The women's

1344
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: neck is typically longer, so we the actual you know,

1345
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: cheek pieces different and the actual pistol grip is narrower

1346
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: to to actually and in your distance not only the

1347
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: length of pull back from your shoulder if you would

1348
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: out to the trigger, but also that grip. The grip

1349
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: to trigger is a different dimension. So it's it's not

1350
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: just what a lot of people do for quote youth

1351
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: or women, okay, is they just change the length of

1352
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: pull So they hacked the butt back of the butt

1353
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: stock off. Everything else is the same, everything else remains

1354
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: the same. But in our experience, when women go to

1355
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: purchase things, they don't like to buy things made for

1356
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: men but slightly smaller. They like things to be shaped,

1357
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: specificly fit or orgonomically designed for them. And so we

1358
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: did that and package did in something that is done

1359
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: really well for us because there's just not a lot

1360
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: out there, and there are a lot of women like

1361
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: Brenda who are maybe newer to things, and so it's um,

1362
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: we found a lot of women to really identify with

1363
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: it in a lot of different ways. I think the

1364
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: biggest feature is um the cheek world. So it sets

1365
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: your cheek up higher so you're not cranking your neck down.

1366
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: And that's been the biggest change, at least for me.

1367
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times you're trying to find

1368
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: your way your scope picture, and it's just it's really difficult.

1369
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: Um and so scope alignment for new hunters sometimes difficult, right,

1370
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: trying to actually get your hardest thing for how many

1371
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: guys are taking your kids on their first SECD like

1372
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: there's a big, big deer whatever, and they're like, yeah,

1373
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: that's the No one really discussed it, but that's typically

1374
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,879
Speaker 1: the problem. They're lifting their head up and down. I left, yeah,

1375
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: and so that's that's the biggest I think most women

1376
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: would say that's the biggest feature that they like. So

1377
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: we have it in a lot of calibers and our

1378
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: Mark five or Vanguard rifles and a lot of different ones.

1379
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: So it just keeps expanding because it's just been really

1380
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: popular because there's not a lot out there specifically designed

1381
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: for women. It's got to be hard though, because you're

1382
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: making a product for only ten, like you're you're automatically

1383
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: limiting yourself to the group. However, here's the difference is

1384
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: pretty much every other gun company out there is building

1385
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: guns for So every time I build a regular guys

1386
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 1: rifler or whatever you call it, it's competing against everybody.

1387
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: We're competing against very very little people for that space.

1388
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: There's just not a lot of people who who see that.

1389
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: And we love the idea of new hunters, you know,

1390
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: coming in and enjoying the outdoors. And I think you know,

1391
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: people like Brenda that have experienced that, like, we want

1392
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: to make it a great experience for them. And often

1393
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: things that you purchase help you get into that, right, mean,

1394
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: like you start to get into something, they're like, Wow,

1395
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: that rifle is like made for me. I'm gonna I'm

1396
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: gonna get my own rifle. A lot of women come

1397
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: into it and they're using boyfriend's, dad's, uncles or whoever. Stuff,

1398
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: And it's just you tend to get more into things

1399
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: once you start spend a little bit of money on

1400
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: your right. Yeah, yeah, you got your own gear. I mean,

1401
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: they don't like to wear guys just like women's outdoor

1402
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: clothing gear the same thing. You don't want to wear

1403
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: guy's clothes, the same sort of thing. Do you uh?

1404
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: In the firearm business, where there's people it seems like

1405
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: new stuff, right and you have all these new companies

1406
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: that are making these like small run customs and stuff.

1407
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: Is it do you do you feel that it's hard

1408
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: to Like, you guys, have you have a like a

1409
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: legacy brand rights that every it's like everyone in the country.

1410
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: Not everyone in the country, most hunters have been hunting

1411
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: a long time. Like recognize it and know the name.

1412
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: But do you feel that it's like a confusing landscape

1413
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: right now because there's so much You know, there used

1414
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: to be just this like small handful of gun manufacturers

1415
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: and now there's hundreds. Right, what's that like? What does

1416
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: it like to exist in that landscape? Yeah, it's you

1417
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: gotta find your unique space, right, Like how are we unique?

1418
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: And how do we stand out? And I think we've

1419
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time as a team going in

1420
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: some ways. We have that brand name, that recognition everybody.

1421
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: What we hear a lot of times is whether it

1422
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: be always want to own a weather Be or man,

1423
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: I remember my dad's weather Be collection, or that it's

1424
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 1: that So we have the brand prestige that's there, um

1425
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: and then it's okay once we have that brand, like

1426
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: how do we how do we stand out? Part of

1427
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: it is you're sitting here and talking to Adam and

1428
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: Branda weather Be. There's very few left in our industry

1429
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: where you could say that about if any company that's

1430
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: been around for longer than a decade or two, and

1431
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: there's something personal about that in an an American owned,

1432
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, firearms and ammunition company that I think a

1433
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: lot of folks in industry appreciates. There's some uniqueness about that. Um,

1434
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 1: I think that you know, the ballistics periority thing we

1435
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: talked about, it's a little bit different. So we always

1436
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: need to come back and go, Okay, we gotta remember

1437
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: Grandpa started this thing with with Ammo, and like the

1438
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: speed game is something that we do. We do hear

1439
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot because that brand prestige about the quality craftsmanship,

1440
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: but you start to go there in the accuracy and

1441
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: everybody starts to claim that type of stuff, right, and

1442
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: we kind of find ourselves in the middle. There's a

1443
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: lot of the small gunshop guys and there's maybe some

1444
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: of the large or large competitors that, um, you have

1445
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: tons of resources. But yeah, we I think we can

1446
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: be more nimble because of our size, and so we

1447
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: try to really just take advantage and go who are

1448
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: we in this space and how can we take our

1449
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: brand prestige or quality craftsmanship, our ballistic superiority. Things that

1450
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: are different about us the family owned aspect of it,

1451
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: and really leverage that we can't Ever, we're not going

1452
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: to have guns as cheap as a few of the

1453
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: large US gun manufacturers. It's not good for our brand

1454
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: and we'll lose money. So for two reasons, it's not

1455
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: a good idea um and so we need to focus

1456
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: on that space for a lot of a lot of

1457
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: gun at a good value with our premium name on it.

1458
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: We're also not the custom shop guy that only makes

1459
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: a hundred a year, and so like we're never going

1460
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: to have the quality that you are on like a

1461
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: parazzi shotgun that's like a hundred thousand dollars or something.

1462
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: We're not going to compete there. We're also not gonna

1463
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: have a rifle for two nine, So we have to

1464
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: figure out like who we are in all those those

1465
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: spaces and kind of do that. When we do that,

1466
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: it gets really less crowded really quickly. If I said that, right,

1467
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: what's uh, what's the sweet spot on on money? Because

1468
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: we'll oftentimes have people coming uh people that are coming

1469
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: to us, they're trying to figure out buying a rifle

1470
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: and they're trying to understand what do I get for

1471
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 1: three d bucks and what do I get for seven thousand?

1472
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: And where do I need to land in there? Absolutely

1473
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you kind of you kind

1474
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: of find like you mentioned you're not gonna have a two.

1475
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is where does the I guess,

1476
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: where does the where do the returns? Where does what

1477
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: you're getting really start to drop off sharply as you

1478
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: get into the astronomical dollars? Yeah? I think first is

1479
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 1: you know what's funny is there's a lot of guys

1480
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: who are a lot of guys who own a lot

1481
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: of guns, so they don't spend a lot of money

1482
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: on any particular one gun. Right, So a lot of

1483
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: people that own a firearm own fifteen firearms, right. But

1484
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: then they do it and they buy a lot. The

1485
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: crazy thing is they'll complain about the difference sometimes between

1486
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: three nine dollar gun and a fos and they just

1487
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: but then it's like whatever, you get a smartphone and

1488
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: it's dead into your These are like generational pieces that

1489
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: you're like making memories with, traveling throughout the world, harvesting

1490
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: game and possibly hatting them down to your great grandchildren.

1491
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: And you're complain about a hundred fifty dollars. So I

1492
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: think there is a certain point, this is me personally speaking,

1493
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: that you want to have a little bit of of

1494
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: pride in that product. Now, there's different uses. Okay, you

1495
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: get a truck gun, you throw it around, and you

1496
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: got a rancher it wants shoot coyot. It might be

1497
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: a little bit different, right, and so it depends on

1498
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with it. But even if you're

1499
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: getting just a deer rifle you're gonna have for a

1500
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: long time, you want something that has that quality feel

1501
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: to it and it doesn't rattle around and feel like

1502
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: a piece of junk. You know. I think it's disappointing, man,

1503
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 1: when you have something that feels and it drives me nuts.

1504
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: Though the like sometimes over like a hundred bucks. I'm like, guys,

1505
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: like you just went and bought a big screen TV

1506
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: at Costco last weekend, Like that difference. Could have just

1507
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: bought you a pie shoot had for fifty years and

1508
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: had pictures within your walls and like handed your grandkids. Like.

1509
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: So I'm passionate about that, right because that's what I

1510
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: do and I get that. So I'm a little thwarted.

1511
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: But I think you get into a certain price point,

1512
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot at the bottom. In the last five years,

1513
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 1: there's been a lot that's come out at the very bottom.

1514
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: There are decent, good shooting guns at the bottom of

1515
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: the pile, well under five hundred dollars, okay for a

1516
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: dear rifle that did not exist ten years ago. Under

1517
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks. Ten years ago, there wasn't a lot

1518
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: of good stuff. There are some good shooting guns that

1519
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: will shoot well and harvest deer or whatever you're shooting.

1520
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: I think from there, if you're looking to get beyond

1521
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: that at all, there are other values in features. It's

1522
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: the quality, it's the way the bolt feels, it's durability,

1523
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: Sarah coats Real Popular, which is a coating on the gun,

1524
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: and all weather coating which and brings in the color aspect.

1525
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: There's do you want a muzzle break? Do you want

1526
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: a detachable magazine? You know, So you start to get

1527
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: into a little bit of the features you know that

1528
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: are on there. But the difference between like a three

1529
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: and fifty dollar gun and a seven fifty dollar gun

1530
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: is everything, like from equality and feature standpoint of what

1531
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: you get in the in the difference of those If

1532
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Um and and just even the tolerances,

1533
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: and you got amount of scope up and sometimes things

1534
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 1: are off. It's like all of those type of things

1535
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: that just kind of kind of add up there. But

1536
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: I think what we're doing, like our Vanguard line, I

1537
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: think it starts at about maybe mid fours to five bucks,

1538
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: about as cheap as you'd go in a rifle that

1539
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: has a weather by name on it. But we whether

1540
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: trend has gone the last five years is actually towards

1541
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: more the value added stuff that we're selling a lot

1542
01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 1: in then where they're like, man, I get Sera coated

1543
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: and might match with my camo like that first life

1544
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: Vanguard that we have, right, I think it's pushing about

1545
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: a thousand bucks. It's sound like crazy for us because

1546
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: you're like, I got flutes into barrel, which helped the

1547
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: barrel to cool a little bit better. Plus it makes

1548
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: it look cool, and it's supposed to make it more rigid,

1549
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: more accurate, all this kind of stuff, right. But plus

1550
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: then you have the full seric coded flat dark Earth

1551
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: that matches with the colors on the first light, and

1552
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: it's got a muzzle brake reduces recoil by fift all

1553
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: those things you're adding up, it's a gun that when

1554
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: you're sitting around there, I don't know, sharing a campfire

1555
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,759
Speaker 1: with people, you're like, I don't know, a little bias

1556
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: to put your weather be and you're like, yeah, this

1557
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: is this is pretty cool. And there are other brands

1558
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: out there there like that too. Obviously I think that

1559
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: are on part with that, but you certainly do get

1560
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: those features along, not just the brand. But I don't

1561
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: know that was my sales pitch. But I do this

1562
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 1: for a living, so I'm pretty passionate about it. I'm

1563
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: just I think life's too sure to hunt with an ugly,

1564
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: cheap gun unless you have to. Okay, so your economics

1565
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: may okay if that's the case, but they're, like I said,

1566
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: a lot of guys dropping money on big screen TV

1567
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: and all these other things. So then it's just a

1568
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: priority matter. And at that point, get a smaller TV

1569
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: and get a nice rifle for current out loud, small,

1570
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: smaller to pick up, and the forty bins which the

1571
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: same way. Yeah, where you get you have real nice

1572
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: optics on a bad rifle or vice versa. So it's

1573
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 1: all for a lot of people, I say, they can't

1574
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: afford a decent rifle. It's most of the time, I

1575
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: find that not true. It's just what you choose to

1576
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: spend it. One. Yeah, it's a hard self for beginners mostly,

1577
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: I find I don't really find that talking with an

1578
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: experienced hunter, they really get that too much. But for

1579
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: some reason with beginners, I'm always like, yeah, you really

1580
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't go there for X, Y and Z, and they

1581
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: just don't. And I feel like you just have to

1582
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of experience to be like, oh, okay,

1583
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: I understand why that bolt throw this feels better and

1584
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: it might you know, end up meaning more dead deer

1585
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: in the long run because it's faster and or whatever.

1586
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: I think binos, fishing reels, rifles, there's certain things like

1587
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: over the course of your life you realize, um, there's

1588
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: certain things just warrant the extra expenditure. You're pre spooled

1589
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: fishing reel sitting there and tight on the end already. Yeah,

1590
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: the more stuff is attached to it when you purchased it,

1591
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: it's actually it seems better, but it's actually much worse.

1592
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,879
Speaker 1: Spencial cool right now, do you think gun technology has peaked?

1593
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,839
Speaker 1: Like I'm you know a lot more about the archery industry,

1594
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: and like a decade ago, it seems like the materials

1595
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: and the camp systems and things like that, like it

1596
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 1: just hit a wall and now vertical bows haven't gone

1597
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: much further in like a decade. Has that been the

1598
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: case like in the gun industry or do you think

1599
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: you're close to that? I think it's actually rounding a

1600
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:59,799
Speaker 1: corner right now. Technologically, Um, you know, let's say carbon

1601
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: fire here barrels right which is still steal. Okay, just

1602
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: everybody knows that it's carbon fiber wrapped around steel, so

1603
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: the part of the bullet travelser still steal. But you're

1604
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: seeing those on a ton of rifles right now, right.

1605
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you got proof research up here in Montana.

1606
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: That's ten years ago. It was like really rare to

1607
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: see those, and so you're starting to see I think

1608
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna see more materials with a lot of material

1609
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: technology and composite technology, different things. I think actually, because

1610
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 1: I think the fiarms industry is really slow. I mean

1611
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: you start you look at the technology in a firearm

1612
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: or you know, like I always used the example of

1613
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: a nineteen eleven pistol, it's like a half a million

1614
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 1: of made a year. It's a hundred and eight year

1615
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,879
Speaker 1: old design. Our flagship product was designed by an engineer

1616
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: in the fifties. Like we hadn't even been on the moon. Like,

1617
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: you start to look at this, it's like a lot

1618
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: of I mean, you're talking a cartridge. How long has

1619
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: it been around? You got a chunk of brass, You

1620
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: put a little detonator thing in the back called a primary,

1621
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: You filled with some powder and you stick some copper

1622
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: and lead in the end of it. It's been that

1623
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: way since before we are all born. You look at

1624
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, smartphones and vehicles and so many different things,

1625
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: this podcast, this whole internet thing like none and this

1626
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: is the same through age, through the Internet age. The fundamentals,

1627
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: the fundamentals are just yeah, the same. I think there's

1628
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: a lot of room, and I think in the next

1629
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: decade we're gonna see a lot um We hired. We

1630
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: hired a guy from aerospace uh that actually for two

1631
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: years did a rocket scientists. We did literally got an

1632
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: engineer that built a spacecraft that went to Mars. But

1633
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: he comes in and he looks at our industry and

1634
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: he just like left. He's like, like guns are funny,

1635
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: Let's build real cool style and so he's taking though,

1636
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: and I think bringing those outside things in rather than

1637
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: us that grew up with insights like it's gotta be

1638
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: this way, you gotta bolt act, just gotta upright, just

1639
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: this way. Bringing in those outside folks um are really

1640
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: going to help it as well as more folks. More

1641
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: people in the industry makes a competitive's very competitive right now.

1642
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: Markets not great. That drives people towards innovation. So I

1643
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: think there's actually gonna be a lot. To answer your questions,

1644
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 1: s Bencer, I think there's gonna be a lot of

1645
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: innovation the next decade. It's far from peaking. Yeah, there's

1646
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: guys starting to make polymer cases instead of brass like

1647
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 1: there's I mean, you look at the technology in in

1648
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, the polymer type of stuff in plastics and

1649
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: the you know, the chemistry and all those things. I think, uh,

1650
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, from stocks to recoil reduction. Optics is starting

1651
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: to see a lot more electronics in there. And you

1652
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: know you I mean just even your your range finding

1653
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: stuff to your ballistics of how you run that and

1654
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: your apps on your phones. I think ten years from

1655
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: now it's going to be quite a bit different. So

1656
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: I should hold off, like a decade before buying with

1657
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: that said Gunna, I think that's one of the things

1658
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: that becomes the slow movement is you know, I mean

1659
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: hunters are like you know, I mean, I know there's

1660
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: a lot of people buy guns, aren't hunters, Right, the

1661
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 1: most guns are not bought by hunters, are brought by shooters.

1662
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: But you guys have said you always had a strong

1663
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: hunting focus. Um, hunters are like kind of anachronistic. You're like,

1664
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: it's a traditional m you know, there's there's there's a

1665
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: lot of people that you're not ignoring technology, but there

1666
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: is a strong tradition component. And you even mentioned, uh,

1667
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: you value the fact that your business is a family business.

1668
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: You value that your grandfather was involved. You were talking

1669
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: about like a gun that you can hand down. Right,

1670
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: There's all these these themes come up of some kind

1671
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: of you know, legacy attributes, right, and some people not

1672
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 1: a lot of left like that in this world. No,

1673
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: no one's like the thing about this phone, man, is

1674
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: when I give this phone to my grandson, he makes

1675
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: and he makes a call on it, like no one right, No,

1676
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 1: there is and I mean honeying out its roots is

1677
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 1: a very relational. Yeah, it's relational with people. But and

1678
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: so usually your technology kind of goes away and you

1679
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: get in the outdoors to escape technology these days, right,

1680
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 1: So there is part of that as well as hunting

1681
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: itself and the taking of game and harvesting of an

1682
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: animal and cooking. It is a very old human tradition,

1683
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,759
Speaker 1: like so just the roots of doing that and getting

1684
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: your hands messy, like it's a very just old thing.

1685
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: And I think there's part of us as humans that

1686
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: want to get back to our roots a little bit

1687
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: that way. You know. I was down in Florida messing

1688
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: around with some guys one time and they had one

1689
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: of these, uh, one of those rifles where you have

1690
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: a laptop set up and the laptops actually tied into

1691
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: the rifling, don't tom And I even just watching it

1692
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: made me feel dirty. I feel like I feel like

1693
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: some hustler magazines in a ditch when we were kids.

1694
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: Man's just like watch. I was like, God, I don't know,

1695
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: we're getting real uneasy feeling like I wanted to turn

1696
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: and look the other way. Like something about it just

1697
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: made me unto Yeah. I was like, man, I don't know, dude,

1698
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: laptops should we be plugging those into our guns. Now

1699
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: it feels like, no, it is. I mean we do

1700
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: that in our testing, Like we have an underground range,

1701
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: so we're testing as a company trying to put good, safe, reliable, accurate,

1702
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: you know, fast shooting stuff. So we need to have

1703
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. Um for a consumer. It is true,

1704
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: and I had that scene. There's some people who run

1705
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 1: to it very enthusiastically. But I'm saying with me, you know,

1706
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: it's just it's a it's not I'm not it's not

1707
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: even a condemnation of the thing. But it's like me personally,

1708
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: I see it and I don't I'm more and I know,

1709
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: CAW's this way. Uh, when I see stuff like that,

1710
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm more. I don't like lean into it. I'm more

1711
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,600
Speaker 1: kind of lean away from it a little bit. But

1712
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 1: I I mean, I laser range finder. I think, and

1713
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: I think there's certain things. One thing that I'm passionate

1714
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 1: about is hunters, is hunters and conservation and getting people outdoors.

1715
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: Is we do need to stay as united as possible.

1716
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: And there are people that are going to be like

1717
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: say anti technology and those type of things, or some

1718
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: people are gonna gravitate towards it or away from it,

1719
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 1: if it's legal, if it's ethical, if it's good for

1720
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: the wildlife, the conservation they have to that's all those

1721
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: things line up. Then, like I think we need to

1722
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: be able. Gig on you can use that piece. That's

1723
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: cool for you. But like even the long range hunting conversation,

1724
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: I get asked a question all the time, right, and

1725
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: how far is too far? And all those different things

1726
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: of like what that is? But technologies come aways and

1727
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 1: it's like, so what is their magical number? Is it

1728
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 1: four hundred? Is it nine? Is it? That's not the answer, right,

1729
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: But people are looking for that to go. Where is

1730
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: that ethical? And there's so many things like people want

1731
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: to apply a number to it real bad all the time.

1732
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: And there's people that I know they can shoot at

1733
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: a henry yard is better and a lot of people

1734
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: can shoot three hundred yards. I'm like, for you, from

1735
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 1: what I've seen exactly, it depends on their equipment, it

1736
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: depends on the person. So I think in general, I

1737
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 1: don't know. I think I definitely don't want to come

1738
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 1: against like you said, Hey, that's not for me, you know,

1739
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not. It feels weird, feels dirty, But you

1740
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: know Shane Mahoney, You ever hear him? Yeah, I had

1741
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: dinner with him one time not long ago, This first

1742
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: time I ever hung out with him. He was talking

1743
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: about the technology question, and um, he's talking about like

1744
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: future generations or people who grew up in the outdoors

1745
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: wanting to engage their kids in it and get their

1746
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 1: kids excited. And he feels it all this this language.

1747
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit I hope he doesn't hear this

1748
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: and feel like I'm misrepresenting his perspective. I think I'm

1749
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: getting it, is that all of this sort of this

1750
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: anti technology rhetoric about needing to get kids away from technology.

1751
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 1: He feels like, you're you're setting up an unnecessary obstacle

1752
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 1: for yourself in having your kids involved, where you're putting

1753
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 1: them in this situation where they have to either It's

1754
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 1: like I'm making it be that you have to choose tech,

1755
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: which is where all of American society is pushing you,

1756
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: or you have to choose my thing, which is non tech.

1757
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: And he feels that that if that's the game we're

1758
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: gonna play and how we're gonna frame this conversation up

1759
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: and position this, you will lose that that it's accepting

1760
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: that you can love nature and want to engage with

1761
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 1: nature and want to be outside, and that doesn't mean

1762
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: that you have to, you know, shove all these other

1763
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: interests of years away, and that there is room to

1764
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 1: have these two worlds come together in some way that

1765
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: it's like, is it increasing? Now? I'm getting beyond what

1766
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: he said about the sexscrap plating from his perspective, is like,

1767
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: is it like? Is it increasing? Is some better than none?

1768
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Would be one way of putting it right. And so

1769
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: it's the thing like I think of thet all the time,

1770
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: like if I take my kids out, if I take

1771
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: them out jig and halibut, which on a bad day

1772
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 1: is one of the worst things that a person could

1773
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: ever do, is jig halibut on a day when no

1774
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: one hooks a halibit. So if they're with me out

1775
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: in a boat, suffering in all the ways that I

1776
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 1: want them to suffer, and they get bored and pick

1777
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: up a kindle and play a game, should I now

1778
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: act like somehow this has all been a failure. There's

1779
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 1: still about a damn boat suffering. They don't want to

1780
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 1: be here. I'm making them be here. They're still in

1781
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 1: it and seeing it and around it. So is it

1782
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: that bad? Right? It's like I always look at that

1783
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 1: question and I kind of like, on one hand, I

1784
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 1: hate to see like I'm like, oh, man, why do

1785
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 1: you guya do that? Well, you've been out here six hours? Yeah,

1786
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: we ran out of it. We ran out of ten

1787
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: pops two hours ago. Man, So I'm like, I guess

1788
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 1: it's still okay, Like do this and and it'll be

1789
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, well, we'll integrate. Well, integrate. I'm not going

1790
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: to create a dichotomy if you have a lot of

1791
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: people that are though, yeah, and like even like so

1792
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: I use a garment in reach right for being able

1793
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 1: to text BRender of the business when I'm going things

1794
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: and people that's horrible. You get outdoors to escape down everything.

1795
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but with my business, I'm out in

1796
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: the back country a lot, just testing product or with

1797
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: media or different things, and I need to do that

1798
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: to continue to run my business. Check in with my family,

1799
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: make sure okay, so I check in, it doesn't ruin

1800
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: my hunting trip. So if I check my in reach

1801
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: for ten minutes a day and then you have those

1802
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: people like you gotta get off the grid. I'm like, Wen,

1803
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to go hunting as much because

1804
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: I got a business to write. You see this thing,

1805
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 1: this allows me to be out hunting. Yeah, you know what, Yeah,

1806
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: you know why I'm here. I'm here because I'm trying

1807
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,680
Speaker 1: to run this business. And so you have to like

1808
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 1: you know where people people are just anti that too,

1809
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, kept your communication. Well he's drawn for fourteen

1810
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 1: days and he never calls me, then he's not gonna

1811
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: be gone fourteen days. Question questions, Questions arise. Yes, things

1812
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: that one needs feedback on come up during those time periods.

1813
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: So what you like Wyoming? Awesome? Guess putting in for

1814
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: some tags and whatnot? No, No, we yeah, they take

1815
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: their residency real serious there twelve months. No, what we've

1816
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: been there for nine months. You have to be there's

1817
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: twelve months a while the day you can't put into

1818
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: the day you can't apply for tax. Yeah, four limited quota.

1819
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: So in other words, by the time those hunting season

1820
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: rolls around, I have been i'd have lived in the

1821
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 1: state of Wyoming for sixteen months. I'll hunt as a

1822
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: resident with general tax, but I cannot apply for limited

1823
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 1: quota in May because I moved here in Gym. I'm

1824
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: with you at the time of application to be illegal roast.

1825
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: That's correct, And I asked the director of fishing game

1826
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: for the state just to make sure. I don't think

1827
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: that's all. We're going to have fun to months is

1828
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: a long time, but I don't think that's like too much.

1829
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: It's I think more than that. I think there's the

1830
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: last dates that runs six months. Yeah, Montana six, isn't it.

1831
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: Alaska's at six or twelve. I feel like everything six

1832
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: were like five years. No, I'm just kidding it because

1833
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: we're But here's the thing, there's so much amazing general season.

1834
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: How you we'll be able to do this fall anyways? Man,

1835
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: I like those states that take it real serious though. Man,

1836
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: I like those states that guard the resource real jealously.

1837
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Like they take it seriously. It's true, you know, and

1838
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: it's like they're kind of you get the sense to

1839
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: resident privilege and you've got to earn your privilege. Yeah,

1840
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 1: and there's a lot there's a fair all these all

1841
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 1: the destination states deal with quite a bit of fraud,

1842
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: people trying to get residency and getting buying resident, which

1843
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 1: is like, which is a really stupid way to save

1844
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: a few hundred bucks. But people do it and buy

1845
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, people buy a vacation home in the state

1846
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: just to be able to buy resident tags in the state.

1847
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: You hear all this kind of stuff all the time,

1848
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: especially like in Alaska because I recently moved states. Um,

1849
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 1: and when it came time to do it, like I

1850
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 1: went down with all my stuff. I'm like, here's all

1851
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:48,799
Speaker 1: my stuff. You tell me, am I cool or not cool?

1852
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 1: You know? Game of Fish? I mean yeah, I mean

1853
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: like because there's all these there's all these things about

1854
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: how how the state defines residency. So just wanting to

1855
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: be not I didn't want to be in a situation

1856
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 1: where I was viewing it one way and would an

1857
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,600
Speaker 1: encounter award and who viewed it another way? Right, and

1858
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: then then the media to follow. Yeah, sure, there's no

1859
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 1: better story. If there's one story Americans like, it's a

1860
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 1: person with a hunting show getting in trouble with the

1861
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: law with regards to hunting rules. That story people were

1862
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 1: somebody running a gun company to be a pretty good

1863
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 1: would like that story. Uh, what's in the future, Like, um,

1864
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, who's gonna do you do you have you

1865
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 1: do you have an air. Do you have an air

1866
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: who's interested in the business. You know, we don't know.

1867
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: We don't want to, just like my dad didn't push

1868
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 1: it on me, and you know, we we're just taking

1869
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 1: in a day at a time and don't bring it up. Well,

1870
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: we talked about things, you know, as a family and

1871
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But any when I was

1872
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: in high school, I was thinking all lots of things.

1873
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: So you know, we let them think about that. But

1874
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: I think you don't tell your daughter there's one path

1875
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: in this world for you. We don't. That's weather No,

1876
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: that doesn't wake out so well. Actually, about a month ago,

1877
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: she was at the office because she came over to

1878
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: the homework while we were ready to go home. And

1879
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: then on the way home, yeah, she was just doing

1880
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 1: homework and anyways, um, we drive home and on the

1881
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 1: way home, she goes, Man, I thought, I don't want

1882
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: to work at weather be but Dad's job looks really stressful.

1883
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do that work

1884
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: back to back calls as well. She's here and this

1885
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: is just part of you need to play it out

1886
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: better when when she comes down, you're just doing like

1887
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 1: totally fun stuff, right, Exactly what it's like I'm just

1888
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: playing with the pinata in my office stuff too, But

1889
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 1: work has work though X amount of pages of the

1890
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: employee handbook before they go bad. Stuff like that. But

1891
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: if you had to guess, if you had to guess,

1892
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: what do you think one of your I don't know.

1893
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to because I don't want I don't

1894
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: want to take I want them to do. They got

1895
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: to make their own path exactly. So I wouldn't want

1896
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 1: anything that we do to help determine that, because I

1897
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 1: wouldn't have wanted that on me. My dad was really

1898
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: cool about that, where my grandpa was a stronger personality

1899
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: that first generation entrepreneur. He's the one who started it.

1900
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: And so like my grandpa was just you know, die

1901
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: hard the business, which is awesome, that's why we're here today.

1902
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: But my dad a huge family guy and just really

1903
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, I think the pendulum swung a little bit.

1904
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 1: So he's like, you know, with us, it's like, hey,

1905
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 1: it's a business, and it's a blessing, it's an opportunity,

1906
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: it's a legacy brand and all those things, but like, hey,

1907
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 1: you've got one life and I'm not gonna tell you

1908
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: how to live it's a good perspective. Yeah. People would

1909
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 1: like to ask me, like, what are you gonna do

1910
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: if your kids don't like the hunt as much as

1911
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 1: you do? Yeah, I always telling most people don't. Yep, right,

1912
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 1: it's true. And that's the thing, like, you know, we

1913
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: just yeah, I think it's important as parents. I mean,

1914
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: we certainly don't want to want a parent that way.

1915
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: You know. Just same thing with you. I mean you

1916
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 1: have we're leading to business. It's fairly well known and

1917
01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: you're doing the same and it's like, at the same time,

1918
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 1: I want him to be Connor and Dana who they are.

1919
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 1: Right now, my eight year old thinks he wants to

1920
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 1: work here. Yeah, six year old wants to work at

1921
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 1: her on her aunt's ranch. She's got her mind made

1922
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: up about that. Can you can you plug something? Can

1923
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: you leak any like cool things? Or don't you want

1924
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: to plug anything? Yeah? I mean just last week we

1925
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: launched the new shotguns. We're excited about that and it

1926
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: was unpackaged on social media their meat Eater, pretty good

1927
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: unpackaging of the product. You know. I had a good

1928
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: laugh about what like there's a thing when you touch

1929
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 1: like I like a lot is there's when you touch

1930
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: the stock. It's got a nice grippy but not too grippy.

1931
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: And your honest used the word tacky and someone's like, well,

1932
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: tacky has a negative connotation. I'm like, I don't think

1933
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 1: in Janice's life he's ever declared something tacky in the

1934
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: negative way, like someone but not something. When he says tag,

1935
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: it means it's the it's got the life, but not

1936
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: too much, because sometimes people will do that and it

1937
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:12,759
Speaker 1: gets like um sticky, or it doesn't like it doesn't move.

1938
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean like when you wanted to slide through your hand,

1939
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: it won't. That's what I'm trying to say, Like it

1940
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: like it winds up feeling like when you when you move,

1941
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: it kind of brings your skin, what about your help

1942
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 1: me out here, like like your skin grabs it and

1943
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: twists and stuff. But this is like grippy but not

1944
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 1: not too crippy sticky. Right, you hit the right you

1945
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: really and it's I don't know if it's something grippy tackiness.

1946
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys focus on it, but

1947
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 1: you hit you really hit the right tackiness. I'm sure

1948
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: someone thought about you'll get accidental tacky. It is I mean,

1949
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: how a gun looks is really important. Typically people purchase

1950
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 1: a firearm without firing it, so you have to sell

1951
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: it on other things. So you go to a gun store,

1952
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 1: like we always laugh at the bolt action rifle first

1953
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 1: thing everybody does, and we'll be a gun shows and

1954
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: these are good, you know, buyers for big customers are

1955
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: these things as soon as you hand it to them.

1956
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: When they do and they examine every time cycled up,

1957
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: they pull it back and they kind of do that

1958
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: a few times. And then you give him another model

1959
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: with a different colored stock. They do the same thing.

1960
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 1: It's the same darn action. And you give them five

1961
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 1: guns and they gotta cycle it. It's just different colors, right,

1962
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 1: And so you tend to there's something about it ergonomically though,

1963
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: with a firearm, of how it makes you, how how

1964
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: it feels. It's how it looks first on the gun shelf,

1965
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: and it's second how it feels to the touch, and

1966
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: so I think it is important. And then obviously when

1967
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 1: you hunt, but rarely do you ever hunt or shoot

1968
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 1: a product before buying it. Most of the time it's

1969
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 1: just how it feels in your hands. That's a really

1970
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, I never thought of that man like

1971
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 1: that it's supposed to dock it. You can go down

1972
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: and drive a truck usually and get a test drive,

1973
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: and there are a few places you can do that.

1974
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 1: Percent of the time there aren't ranges right there for

1975
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 1: you to use. I mean there are those type of things.

1976
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: Most time there's not, so yeah, I realized that's true,

1977
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: but I never really thought about it. Yeah, a lot

1978
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: of times. I mean, you're a bolt action kind of

1979
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 1: won't even have a scope on it, so you're just

1980
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 1: throwing it up and sort of pretending that you're looking

1981
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: through the scope. We were looking. We used to have

1982
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: a copy of an AD because a Walmart AD. Oh yeah,

1983
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember picture. It was like it wasn't I

1984
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: can't remember that. It's not important. Somebody messed up in

1985
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: marketing store and they had an add and it was

1986
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: like getting geared up for deer season. But they had

1987
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: a dude with a you know, he's holding a rifle

1988
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 1: up in his tree stand. Well not even iron sights.

1989
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 1: It was like he was just like good outside marketing firm.

1990
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: It was like when you see those The other thing

1991
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 1: that happens all the time is you're looking at something

1992
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 1: where someone's trying to sell lawn chairs or something. It's

1993
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: like the fishing scene and the dude has the open

1994
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: face reel that's up and you realize that the art

1995
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 1: director is in over the waiters when they designed that's cute,

1996
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 1: Like why do you guys name the new Shock? And

1997
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 1: what you name? I don't have a problem with the no?

1998
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, you know it's funny because naming meetings are

1999
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 1: always the hardest when you designed a product, you design

2000
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 1: a whole product, and you get to the end and

2001
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: either all the names have been taken in a billion

2002
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 1: different industries, right and uh, And then what's funny is

2003
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 1: even in the in the firearms world, like how many

2004
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 1: in eight seventy from Tonight seventy or a model Winchester

2005
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: Model seventy in nineteen eleven, just a bunch of like

2006
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: numbers and letters and you try to come up with

2007
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: something cool that's you know, I don't know whatever named

2008
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: after something. And our names are always all over the place.

2009
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 1: It's always something like you try to like do um

2010
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: and sometimes it does tell a story though. So we

2011
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 1: had like a semi auto that came out in two

2012
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 1: thousand eight. It was the S A O. Eight. Okay um,

2013
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 1: we had the p A oh eight. This is the

2014
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: E ten I developed in in eighteen. We launched it

2015
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: in nineteen UM at the time we named it. We're

2016
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 1: hoping to launch in inertia because it's an inertia driven

2017
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 1: uh so instead of our other semiautos are a gas

2018
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,759
Speaker 1: driven where the gases in there are actually what cycle

2019
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 1: the shotgun if you're not familiar with it, inertia is

2020
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: actually the recoil that cycles that semi auto and so

2021
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 1: that inertia system. So it's the A teen I developed

2022
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen inertia system. So that's one thing

2023
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: we notice. If you take it and gently tap it correct,

2024
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 1: that's right, the bolt will kind of go. And that's

2025
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 1: why it's so much easier to like bring a bolt

2026
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: back in an inertia semiato than in a gas semiauto

2027
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 1: because it's made to come back easy and cycle that way.

2028
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: And it's the recoil um that actually, you know, causes

2029
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: it to cycle once you shoot in inertia semiato. For

2030
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: me a couple years ago, I switched over from a

2031
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 1: gas one and it's just it's just smooth, light feeling. Um. Well,

2032
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 1: that thing ergonomically. I think it's nice. Man. Yeah. Yeah,

2033
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 1: you guys got one of the black synthetic ones. Yeah,

2034
01:46:54,600 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: and then my cheek uh with three and a half inch. No, no,

2035
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 1: I was just shooting two and three quarters, but I was.

2036
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 1: I got through them quick. No no, no, no, only

2037
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 1: one turkey round. I was just shooting field rounds just

2038
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: to get it dirty, you know. Perfect. Yeah, and we

2039
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: got got a cameo one of that, and then we

2040
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: got a sweet Wood one that I really like that

2041
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: cal you shot right the Wood one with It's got

2042
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: a silver receiver with some kind of hand engraving and stuff,

2043
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: and it's it's pretty cool. So that that was Uplands specific, right, Yeah,

2044
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: it's not chambered for three and a half inch for

2045
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 1: the big waterfelt kind of guys. So thanks Dan. Yeah.

2046
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 1: So that that just that just launched. Um We're gonna

2047
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 1: launch more rifle stuff, more cartridge stuff later in the year. Um.

2048
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: So we have the new the Wyoming commemorative models being

2049
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 1: kind of fun. We just said, let's make a really nice,

2050
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: expensive rifle with all sorts of Wyoming stuff on it

2051
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: and just make it blink steamboat like the state Symbolman. Yeah,

2052
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: the University of Wyoming, like mascot thing that's on there

2053
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: in gold So that's we're starting our serial number prefix

2054
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: on our market fives with w WISE one and we

2055
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: had number eighties seven. Went to a conservation banquet, uh

2056
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: wildlife conservation banquet and it went for auction for thirty

2057
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 1: eight grand. Yeah, and it was like sure, number eighties seven.

2058
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: So it's like people in Wyoming just love the move.

2059
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 1: We feel just you know, we're sived with Open Arms

2060
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: Wyoming Sportsman Group WSG. It's local in northeast Wyoming. They

2061
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: do a lot up there locally, all the all the

2062
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,839
Speaker 1: funs stay there locally. Are people in Wyoming pretty receptive

2063
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: to you guys moving there. Unbelievable. It's so cool, I

2064
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 1: think coming from where we came from, and it's just

2065
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: we it's not just shared in community, but Wyoming I mean, uh,

2066
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 1: former Governor Matt Mead was a big part of recruiting us.

2067
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's the whole. Yeah, just like even outside

2068
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 1: of like an outside of politics, just hanging out of

2069
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 1: them on a turkey with him last year and last year, dude,

2070
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: you just feel like it's just a real dude, you know.

2071
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we just we couldn't feel more at home.

2072
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 1: We just and we'll say that all the time, like

2073
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 1: we just there was a lot that went into a

2074
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,799
Speaker 1: few years of searching, you know, where to move a

2075
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 1: seventy cent year old business, and we just are like,

2076
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: we nailed it in short while. I mean we did,

2077
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: didn't we. I Mean it's it's amazing, Like, yeah, yeah,

2078
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of work to get there, but

2079
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:27,839
Speaker 1: we're coming along the finish line here, getting our offices

2080
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: moved in its entiring a couple of years, and it's

2081
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: just you know, uh, to do that movie manufacturing, lose employees,

2082
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: train new ones, built a seventy facility, Like it's just

2083
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 1: it's short term pain for a lot of long term

2084
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 1: gain in the long term gains like gonna start now.

2085
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: In the short term pain we're hoping is that need soon.

2086
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: It's just a lot. It's a it's a big because

2087
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: in the midst of doing all that, like you still

2088
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 1: have to be competitive, you still got a launch new product,

2089
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: you still got a market. You still I mean, business

2090
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: doesn't stop for two years. So it's in addition to

2091
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 1: kind of the normal everyday thing that's out there. So

2092
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 1: we'd never moved a business and it's hard, but whether

2093
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 1: you can be so much better for it. We're neighbors. Yeah,

2094
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: we love it. Man, just right down the road. And

2095
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: then people that follow our stuff, um, that follow the

2096
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 1: whole media or universe, you'll be seeing a lot more

2097
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 1: stuff and whether because we're gonna be working pretty closely together,

2098
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 1: which is really exciting for all of us people this

2099
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 1: last week, so we kind of posted we're gonna start

2100
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 1: working with you guys more because people are saying you

2101
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:32,759
Speaker 1: can do a media to rifle already asking about fun stuff.

2102
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 1: So it's gonna shoot lasers, dude, technology, No, No, it's

2103
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:40,759
Speaker 1: gonna look it's gonna use a lot of the old

2104
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:43,520
Speaker 1: old style things. Yeah, we're gonna use really old technology

2105
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: just make it look cool. Um, you know it's funny

2106
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 1: you mentioned when you see someone pick it up and

2107
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: they worked the bolt. What do you look for, Like,

2108
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 1: when you see someone pick up a rifle, what do

2109
01:50:55,160 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: you what do you want to see them do the trigger? Like?

2110
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: What do you see when you're like, he's that's a

2111
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 1: discerning eye. I don't know, I like to like I honestly,

2112
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: I've worked the bolt. Yeah, you want to see like

2113
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: how how sloppy and weird it is. And then I'm

2114
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 1: interested in the trigger it did. Those are the two things.

2115
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 1: And then a lot of text people will shoulder it

2116
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: even if it don nemoscope on it. They want to

2117
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 1: see how it shoulders in that in that balance. Obviously

2118
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 1: was a shotgun particular, but he went the rifle too.

2119
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, people are people are into triggers. Yeah,

2120
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,719
Speaker 1: the bold and trigger the only two things that moved

2121
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: that you can actually manipulate. Otherwise you just sit there

2122
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 1: and fondle the thing, you know, and see how tack

2123
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 1: you stock is. Yeah. Yeah, another thing with that, having

2124
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 1: the right tack. I think that, uh, the Mark five

2125
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 1: has uh you know, like everybody for a while, everybody

2126
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 1: wants everything so damn light. Yeah, but you don't want

2127
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: it to be heavy. By think people like the light

2128
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: thing has gotten a little. I know, you probably have

2129
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: a lot of customers that really want ultra light ultra light.

2130
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 1: But there's still like there's still there's the carrying it

2131
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 1: and shooting it, and there's a sweet spot, there's an intersection,

2132
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: there's where I think it where I think it lands. Well,

2133
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 1: because I've had some I've had I had a customer

2134
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 1: rifle a few years ago that I actually the guy

2135
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 1: made it and I went back to get a heavier

2136
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: barrel because it was I felt it was like too

2137
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 1: light when it came to shooting it, Like I shoot

2138
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: off my backpack all the time, and when I laid

2139
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 1: that thing in my backpack, it just didn't have that

2140
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: like funk, Like it didn't land my pack in the

2141
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:45,680
Speaker 1: way where I felt like it was laying there. It

2142
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: just felt too light. Yeah, I love light, chop sticky,

2143
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: I love light, but I agree, but it's the difference. See,

2144
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: if I hunt, I don't mind that because I pulled

2145
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: the trigger hopefully once, sometimes a little bit more, but

2146
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 1: hopefully he once. But I carried around for hours upon

2147
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: hours upon hours. I don't know, because I I think

2148
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 1: I had one to light this last season. You know,

2149
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel right. I felt good, Oh, toting

2150
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 1: him around is great walking, but it was bouncing a

2151
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 1: little bit, and I was like, I brother used to

2152
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 1: have a rifle that was thirteen pounds, but not because

2153
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 1: it was like a souped up rifle. It was a

2154
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: garbage rifle. But he just really likes said when I

2155
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 1: laid that thing down, man, I feel like it's like

2156
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill something. Yeah, I'm not going anywhere. Just

2157
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 1: like every other consumer product, we have a little bit

2158
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 1: light and a little bit heavy and a lot in

2159
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: the middle because its preference. It is We're gonna get

2160
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: a some turkeys with a new shotgun. Cool. Where are

2161
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:52,640
Speaker 1: you guys going everywhere? Okay, we're going Texas first. Our

2162
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 1: Michigan turkey hunt just got kind of screwed up. We're

2163
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:59,759
Speaker 1: on turkeys and Texas go on turkeys. Here on turkeys.

2164
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 1: I don't. Oh, I'm gonna go to Wisconsin taking my

2165
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: kids hunting. Turkeys are not a lot to hunt yet much.

2166
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 1: They're Remember when we took our kids turkey hunting, So

2167
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,640
Speaker 1: for turkey hunting, you're supposed to be quiet depending on

2168
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 1: the age of kids. Like we took our like sub five,

2169
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,440
Speaker 1: and like all they do is like sneeze and sniffle

2170
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 1: and like yell at each other. Yeah. Yeah. The only

2171
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: time I would ever shoot a turkey when they were

2172
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 1: long came along is once we scared them away. We

2173
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: just run him and gunnham. But you're not supposed to

2174
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 1: do But with kids. I took my little boy when

2175
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 1: I can't remember, I think he's three or four. The

2176
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: first time I took him out and we sit in

2177
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 1: the woods, it's just getting light, and I was like, man,

2178
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 1: he's kicking ass. Then look he's sleeping since he won't

2179
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: up it all went downhill. That was true. Friend Doug

2180
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: let him take a after that morning, My friend Doug

2181
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 1: with him take a sling shot out to this old

2182
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 1: dilapidated house. He's got him his property and let him

2183
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: shoot all the windows out with his slingshot in this

2184
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 1: rundown house. And so I thought of it as a

2185
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 1: Turkey trip. But when he would recount the trip to people,

2186
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: he was like, when I was in Wisconsin shooting the

2187
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 1: windows out with a slingshot, Like what you're doing? I

2188
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: thought that trip, Well, guys, you got any you got

2189
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: any concluders, any final things you want to throw in there?

2190
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 1: Stuff you wish we asked. No. Man, just excited to

2191
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: hang out more with you guys, and and uh look

2192
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 1: forward to seeing the stuff on the Turkey hunts. Look

2193
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 1: forward to having you guys down and just anybody who

2194
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: knows too. We're after June thirteenth, we're gonna have like

2195
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 1: a visitor center and just lobby for people to come

2196
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 1: buy sell some swag and people can visit us and

2197
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,919
Speaker 1: see us. We're right off the interstate. They're very northern Wyomings,

2198
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 1: so when you're on your way to Bozeman from somewhere south,

2199
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 1: you come right by your place. You can see it

2200
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 1: from the highway. So um, you know. So that's a

2201
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: lot of people are asking about that. Give me come

2202
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 1: my visit everybody else that they want tours. There are

2203
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 1: answers right now, like I need to make guns, so

2204
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 1: we're not gonna give you tours, but maybe later. Are

2205
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 1: you guys gonna put like some old pieces up in

2206
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 1: the visitors area? Oh yeah, Oh yeah, we're gonna have

2207
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 1: a show room. What a lot of guns they can

2208
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: see historical current. Brenda has been in charge of kind

2209
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: of outfitting that. So we have a lot of Roy's

2210
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 1: memorabilia from Africa. Are you gonna let people go shoot

2211
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 1: a cartridge that's not supposed to be in a certain

2212
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 1: gun just to resize the casing. Yeah, we're gonna have

2213
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 1: fire forming labs want just mix and match. We do

2214
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: have a couple underground ranges though right under it. It's

2215
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: pretty cool. So I'm kind of jealous of that hat man, well,

2216
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: we can get you hats. I should thought today on

2217
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 1: the way up and like, I should have probably brought

2218
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: some stuff. We're still like moving so literally we're our

2219
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 1: offices are separate from our manufacturing. So I actually thought

2220
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, I don't even know where to

2221
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: go to find a hat except for my closet. You

2222
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 1: want this one? There you go. I wish I can't

2223
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 1: trade anything. There you go. We could find something for work. Hey, man,

2224
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 1: I recently traded my shirt with another guy. You swapped.

2225
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 1: Guy asked me if you could swap shirts, traded him,

2226
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: He traded me his flannel. He traded me a quilted

2227
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 1: flannel for a hoodie. I just did it for no

2228
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 1: other reason than I thought it was a good idea

2229
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 1: that sounded fun. Yeah, so you didn't, You guys Scott

2230
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 1: screwed because I didn't give you anything. Well, no, I'm

2231
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 1: gonna get a cookbook. You're drinking one of our looks,

2232
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 1: drinking one of ox. You're attracting a lot of bartering

2233
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: to yourself. Brendan, do you have any concluders anything you

2234
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: wish I'd ask you about concluders. I got a cleaning

2235
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: question for Brandon, if you want to think about what yeah,

2236
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 1: I thought it. I guess you don't know what to

2237
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 1: go to? Uh. While a game meal is in the

2238
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 1: weather Be household, Oh gosh, well one of them. The

2239
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 1: one recipe you wish everybody knew about it. It doesn't

2240
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 1: have to be fancy, but it's just like a marinade

2241
01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 1: from her first Africa trip west in Western wild game

2242
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: all the time, and that's really good. That's probably go to.

2243
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: That's probably go to. But I do a mean antelope curry,

2244
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: I do uh um. I mean elk is very popular

2245
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: in our house. We had actually, you know your let

2246
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 1: us wrap thing that you did with the mountain lion,

2247
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 1: So I did that with pasn't just because I didn't

2248
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 1: have any call made mountain lion lettuce wraps. Yeah, it

2249
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: was awesome. But I did the chili sauce and all

2250
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 1: that because you left that in my kitchen. Yeah, and

2251
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is great. I'm gonna

2252
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 1: doctor this up. So we we gotta cook in the

2253
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 1: weather Be kitchen, which is I'm quite jealous of. It's

2254
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 1: sweet sweet layout. Um. You gotta get some blinds on

2255
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 1: there for filming though. That's a mountain view mount view.

2256
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 1: He keeps saying that. I'm like, no, we're not putting.

2257
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: There's a tint. There's a window tint you can put up. Okay,

2258
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: you still see the mountains. We can have one of

2259
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 1: our guys to tell you how to do it. Okay, Yeah,

2260
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, we had a great time cooking. So it

2261
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 1: did kind of like a larb let us wrap deal

2262
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 1: and then larb Yeah, what's that mean? That's that Basically

2263
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: it's like a hand grind like dice meat until I

2264
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 1: let us wrap the meat. The US heard that word. Yeah,

2265
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 1: I believe it's tie. Yeah, it was like a ty

2266
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 1: let man. We used to make a lot. That's one

2267
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 1: of the things that my kids would love and I

2268
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 1: haven't made it forever. Oh yeah, where you put the

2269
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 1: could you put some coconut in there? I did peanuts,

2270
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 1: like toasted some peanuts. I'm gonna make some. I'm gonna

2271
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 1: make some lettuce wraps because the kids eat that big time.

2272
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: Because like fidget with stuff. Is that a word or

2273
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 1: an acronym? It's a word. Look it up, you honest

2274
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 1: check them. You never got back to the other but

2275
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be checking earlier. You're supposed to checking

2276
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 1: what grain means. I got it pulled up. As you

2277
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 1: all know, it's difficult to interrupt sometimes. The mount of Lion,

2278
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 1: you didn't need a mountain sandwich. I didn't get the sandwich.

2279
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 1: I had to go to work. I was trying to

2280
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: make pork chop John sandwiches out of Mountain lions and

2281
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 1: it turned out way more like a Chick fil A

2282
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 1: sandwich and horrible. Though. Oh man, apparently there's a lot

2283
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 1: of fans of Chick fil A out there. People were

2284
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 1: very excited about that when I posted it up the

2285
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 1: other day. Well, Janice does his research. I'm gonna tell you.

2286
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 1: Remember we're talking about length of poll. Yeah, I'll tell

2287
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 1: you a quick length of poll story I had. I

2288
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 1: suffered from lyme disease some years ago, and I had

2289
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 1: a lot of problems with my nervous system while this

2290
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 1: is going on. And then one problem that really surprised me.

2291
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 1: And this is as I was just beginning to figure

2292
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 1: out that I had lined but I had written, I

2293
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 1: needed to measure my length of poll. So I had

2294
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:50,400
Speaker 1: written l O P on my hand and I'm sitting

2295
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:55,160
Speaker 1: at my desk, um, I'm sitting at my desk, and

2296
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I look and I don't know

2297
02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 1: what that means or why there, And I had a

2298
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 1: amnesia about that lasted about two hours, where I lost

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Speaker 1: track of about twenty four hours of time, so I

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Speaker 1: didn't know. When I looked at my I was working,

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Speaker 1: I was writing, and I had and I was writing

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Speaker 1: a writing a document and I look at the document

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Speaker 1: and nothing on the document makes sense, and I can't

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Speaker 1: figure out where it came from to where. I think

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Speaker 1: someone wrote it on my computer. They knew what I

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Speaker 1: was supposed to write about. Because I knew that I

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Speaker 1: was supposed to write about it, I could remember that,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't remember writing it. So I started taking passages

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Speaker 1: of what I wrote, taking blocks of it, and putting

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Speaker 1: it in the Google trying to find where it came from,

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Speaker 1: because then I thought I must have cut and pasted

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Speaker 1: someone else's article, and I couldn't find it. And I

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Speaker 1: started taking shorter and shorter chunks and putting him into Google,

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't find those combinations of words. And I

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Speaker 1: had a book on my desk with a sticky note

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Speaker 1: with the guy's address on it, and I knew who

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Speaker 1: it was, but he had texted me or whatever that

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Speaker 1: morning to send them a book. So I wrote the

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Speaker 1: address down. I couldn't figure out why I had a

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Speaker 1: book laying there with that address, and then it just

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Speaker 1: started expanding outward and outward, and I couldn't remember anything.

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Speaker 1: But Yeah, the first glimpse is like, what the hell

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Speaker 1: does L O. P? Meant? Later that common no, and

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Speaker 1: they it's like I went down. Yeah, things like that

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Speaker 1: can happen. There's a lot of sort of mysterious parts

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Speaker 1: of it that happen, and when they diagnosed it, they

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Speaker 1: diagnosed it as global transient amnesia. But it's never happened

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Speaker 1: to me. I've been alive forty five years. I had

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Speaker 1: lyme disease for five months, and it just strikes me

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Speaker 1: as unusual that at the same time that my elbows

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Speaker 1: were numb, my knees were numb, I couldn't go downstairs

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Speaker 1: without holding the handrail, all these other problems, like like,

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Speaker 1: how would it be that I had a two hour

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Speaker 1: amnesia about within the worst of that five months that

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Speaker 1: was not related. It just strikes me like, how could

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Speaker 1: it not be related? So what happened like the two hours?

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Speaker 1: Like literally was it like that? Next minute everything came

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Speaker 1: back to you, or did it gradually come back? It

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Speaker 1: left instantly, instantly, it was like just snap, and then

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Speaker 1: it trickled back in. UM I left. I was working

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Speaker 1: at our the production company that makes meat eater zero

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Speaker 1: point zero UM. I was working in their offices for

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Speaker 1: the day, and I got so nervous. It was so disoriented.

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Speaker 1: I didn't tell anyone what was happening, and I left there.

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Speaker 1: And then other parts like I couldn't figure out how

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Speaker 1: to get home, so that wasn't like a yesterday thing.

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Speaker 1: But I very much knew who I was and write

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Speaker 1: what I did my wife, but other things slipt like

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Speaker 1: I couldn't I had, I couldn't think. I couldn't quite

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Speaker 1: think of how to get home. But I knew enough

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Speaker 1: to call my no no. But for a minute I wondered,

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Speaker 1: if I want you're Jason or whatever dude it was.

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Speaker 1: And then once I got to the emergency room, stuff

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Speaker 1: was coming back, and maybe an hour or two later,

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Speaker 1: it was all back and everything made sense. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna send Mark Boardman this book. I need

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Speaker 1: to measure my length of pull. I remember writing the

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Speaker 1: thing it was if there was a drug you could

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Speaker 1: take that would do that to people. People would take

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Speaker 1: it just to be tripped out of course, and to call,

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Speaker 1: like to call your wife. I'm like, I don't understand what,

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Speaker 1: but something is happening. She's like, where tell me something?

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Speaker 1: You don't move, don't move, just like, don't try to

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Speaker 1: do anything. I don't know. I'm just gonna stand here.

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Speaker 1: But something wrong is happening. I'll do it was scary.

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Speaker 1: Did you find it? Okay? First question is cal right

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Speaker 1: or wrong? He's right, I mean, and this is can

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Speaker 1: be a complicated recipe, but yeah, it's it's Most of

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Speaker 1: these recipes were tie and it's basically like a TI

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Speaker 1: version of like a chicken salad. And I'm this doesn't

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Speaker 1: have it wrapped and lettuce, but I don't see why

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Speaker 1: you couldn't. But usually the crunches as either like a

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Speaker 1: toasted sticky rice or some nuts um and then all

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Speaker 1: sorts of fragrant herbs, slant man, fish sauce, coconut lime, juice,

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Speaker 1: chili flakes, screens, gallions, cilantro steve. If you're looking for

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Speaker 1: a recipe, Daniel Pruitt has one on the Meat Eatter

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Speaker 1: dot Com for TI venison lettuce wraps or do she

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Speaker 1: use the word larbe I feel like that's familiar. I

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Speaker 1: think she did. Didn't know what I was looking at. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't was in the new Heart household. What's hot

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Speaker 1: right now? For cooking? Um, I just got a suvie,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of Suvi stuff. Experiment with that whole deal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I do all the cooking so I can like

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Speaker 1: throw it in the suv pod before I come, before

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Speaker 1: I come to work, ready when I get home. So

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Speaker 1: big fan of that. You got the same setup where

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Speaker 1: my wife doesn't like to cook if I like to cook,

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Speaker 1: so we were it works out good for us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I enjoy it. Um Okay. Then the other thing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell me what a grain is real quick. The ancient grain,

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Speaker 1: varying from one culture to the next, was defined as

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Speaker 1: the weight of a designated number of dry wheat or

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Speaker 1: other edible grain klonels taken from the middle of the ear,

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Speaker 1: and it ended up being the original basis for the

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Speaker 1: medieval English inch, which is defined for instructional purposes, is

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Speaker 1: a length of three medium sized barley corns place end

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Speaker 1: to end, which ends up being about two point five

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Speaker 1: four centimeters, which I believe two point two is one inch, right,

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Speaker 1: So they were damn close way way back in the day.

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Speaker 1: There you go. It's it's uh sixty five thousands of

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Speaker 1: a graham or one seven thousandth of a pound. One

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Speaker 1: of our camera guys. It was working on a side

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Speaker 1: project and it was about people trying to define what

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Speaker 1: a kilo is because just the importance of having it

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Speaker 1: be standard because things that you like, Let's say you

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Speaker 1: have the object and you're like, that's this is a kilo,

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Speaker 1: Like this object will define what a quilo means. That

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Speaker 1: thing sheds molecules. So it was getting lighter. So it's

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Speaker 1: problem like what like how do we decide like what

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Speaker 1: is a quilo? Or how do we decide like what

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Speaker 1: exactly is a second? Do you ever look up numbers

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Speaker 1: in the dictionary? No, I don't have that much time.

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Speaker 1: The definition will, the definition will always tell you what

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Speaker 1: precedes it and what comes after really too, well, it's

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Speaker 1: after one and before three. That's crazy. It's good. The

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Speaker 1: definition of for water. It's one of the beauties of

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Speaker 1: the definition for waters that acts as an almost universal solvent.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Man, you guys are glad you made the trip.

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Speaker 1: Now when you fly on home. You'll be thinking about that,

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Speaker 1: right you shouldn't. You should think about where you're going.

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Speaker 1: And okay, we're gonna wrap it up. Thank you very

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Speaker 1: very much for coming up. Yeah, thank you. It's not

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Speaker 1: as much as if you had driven because you flew

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Speaker 1: into plane, but it's still you risked life and limb

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Speaker 1: to be here. To be here, okay, so worth it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thank you very much