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Speaker 1: Oh time watcht fasper SEXTI text text down time. Here

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Speaker 1: we go again, one Bill's live. Good afternoon and everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Orchard Park. Welcome to uh the builds complex

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Speaker 1: here and op right next door to New era Field.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching that MSG, you get a look at

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Speaker 1: what New Airfield looks like. I have no idea what

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Speaker 1: those tracks are footprints. It looks like they got like

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Speaker 1: twenty people down there doing something. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. It looks like twenty sets up footprints. Footprints, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of tire tracks whatever. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's an open public place. I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's that brings back memories. We used to uh practice

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Speaker 1: inside the stadium every day. Yeah. It was really the

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Speaker 1: only you know, feel we had in days like that,

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Speaker 1: and and uh there was a little bit of so,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was a little bit of complaining going on.

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Speaker 1: If we were out there and it was snow and

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Speaker 1: it was bad weather or whatever, and guys would where

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Speaker 1: did you want to go? We'd wind it would go

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Speaker 1: to the bubble or any place you know or whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, something at the bubble mace. Mainly because you

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Speaker 1: know it was warmer. Well, so during so we'd be

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Speaker 1: out there practicing and they film every practice, you know,

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Speaker 1: from two angles, you know, so it's just like game film, right,

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Speaker 1: So they do that and then you so the next

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Speaker 1: day you're watching the film. Guys were leaving footprints and

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Speaker 1: writing letters on the film. Yes to Mark, addressed to

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Speaker 1: Marv for you know, having us out there the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, that would mar acknowledge what you say? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know they do the do do the you know,

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Speaker 1: curse words or they'd write bubble in the in the snow, right,

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Speaker 1: we should have been in the bubble. So it was

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Speaker 1: you know, it was an ongoing and if running gag

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Speaker 1: another day outside, we're not going in the bubble. Now

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Speaker 1: they have, of course the uh where we are the

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Speaker 1: a pro sports training center, right, and you guys didn't

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this uh this facility, yeah, it was built in

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Speaker 1: the year ninety five, is built so I the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years of my career we were here, was

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Speaker 1: that like luxurious to have the option. It was pretty nice,

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Speaker 1: except for the fact that the administration building wasn't here,

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Speaker 1: in the locker rooms weren't here. We were still down

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Speaker 1: at the other. Oh that's right. Yeah, we're still down

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Speaker 1: in our in our game day locker room now And

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Speaker 1: what did you meet? What did you have meetings? Uh?

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Speaker 1: There's what is now. I don't know what they used

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Speaker 1: the space for now, but it's filled up with other stuff.

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Speaker 1: Where in the administration build, Yeah, in the basement just

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Speaker 1: off the tunnel's and down there is where the where

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Speaker 1: the media the media amphitheater is now for the post game.

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Speaker 1: They used to be our weight room, right, I remember that.

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Speaker 1: And then up above that was a couple of racquetball courts,

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Speaker 1: and then across from a racketball courts was a big

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Speaker 1: team meeting room which was you know, just folding tables

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Speaker 1: and chairs. I don't remember. The meeting room wasn't like

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Speaker 1: the new things now where it's a theater theat Those

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Speaker 1: were the days, lady and gentlemen. These are the days

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Speaker 1: right now. These are the dog days of winter in

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Speaker 1: western New York, right where in winter there's no weather

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Speaker 1: to speak of. Apologist for that, Patrick Hammer, We just

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Speaker 1: I have not to say about the weather. The weather

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Speaker 1: doesn't change, so we can't talk about it. Sorry, let's

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Speaker 1: move on. We got things better things to talk about.

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Speaker 1: If Philip Rivers thing got dropped into our lap laps yesterday, Manson.

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Speaker 1: That was perfect. It was unbelievable. It's unbelievable that because

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Speaker 1: now you've got Philip Rivers and it looks like Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady is gonna get to free agency at least, you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's there's been a reporter. They're not

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Speaker 1: talking to the representation. I think the club that wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, you're the guy who virtually is guaranteed that

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Speaker 1: Brady's going back to New England. I don't think. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he will. I think he'll give I think

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Speaker 1: he'll give the Patriots a chance to match any offer

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Speaker 1: think somebody's gonna make a big swing for him. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he will, you know, try and ring the bell for

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Speaker 1: like maybe a two year, sixty five or seventy million

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Speaker 1: know they's been reporting him. So for the record, you

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Speaker 1: do not think he's going back to New England. No,

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Speaker 1: Brady to show their fan base that, see, we talked

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Speaker 1: to Tom Brady. That's how much we care about getting better, Right,

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Speaker 1: somebody will do that something, Yeah, exactly. And I I

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Speaker 1: he's gonna play. I don't know how much of last

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Speaker 1: year's struggles they had offensively in New England had to

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Speaker 1: forty two year old guy, and there's it's hard to

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Speaker 1: But there's he does move the needle for fan base, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And there's something. And you've got owners out there that

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Speaker 1: build a team that would be consistent contenders and win

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Speaker 1: like that, they want to move the needle the easy way.

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Speaker 1: They want to sell tickets, right, they want to sell tickets.

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Speaker 1: Don't you care about winning? Games. Everybody wants they want

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Speaker 1: to sell tickets and rather than win games. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they're mutually exclusive, but go ahead, but if

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Speaker 1: you win games, you're gonna sell tickets. Yeah, I mean this.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're sitting in the middle of that, right,

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Speaker 1: you and me. So I I get it. There's gonna

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Speaker 1: be some people out there and some teams that are

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Speaker 1: heard there's reports that San Diego wants to take an

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Speaker 1: enormous swing for the fence at tom Brady with a

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Speaker 1: new building that they're moving into, steal some of the

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Speaker 1: luster from the rams in their own building. That kind

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Speaker 1: to just playing a different helmet. Why that's hard? He's

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Speaker 1: can see a scenario where he wouldn't. But every day

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Speaker 1: does may make it more likely that he won't go back.

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Speaker 1: But we got a month before free agency started, right,

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Speaker 1: which does well both in both of you, it seems

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Speaker 1: what gets happened yesterday and what happened yesterday. Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: That was the first domino to fall. I think it

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Speaker 1: happened yesterday, Steven. Now, for better or worse, for the

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Speaker 1: on where these quarterbacks are going. I think the quarterback

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Speaker 1: story is the number one offseason story for the NFL,

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Speaker 1: at least over the next two months or so, where

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Speaker 1: these guys can go on. I really do think about this,

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Speaker 1: for five thousand yards. But he also through for thirty interception,

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Speaker 1: back to square. You're back right here. If you didn't

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Speaker 1: You know what are you doing? Yeah, every team has

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Speaker 1: different needs. Most all teams want to sell tickets, so

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today and it's wide open. When we

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Speaker 1: had to cite the Steve Tasker rule for what makes

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Speaker 1: a good Twitter poll question, it's keep it simple, So

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Speaker 1: we kept this one simple. The answers don't have to

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Speaker 1: be simple. But who is the most valuable free agent

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Speaker 1: And we're talking about guys who are you know approaching

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Speaker 1: If you have a thought on this phone, line's wide

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Speaker 1: one bills Live, or you can give us a caller

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Speaker 1: where you can vote in the Twitter poll. We got

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Speaker 1: over the next two hours. No, I mean that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Most valuable and you may be surprised by the answer.

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Speaker 1: Forty one percent of you respond that Teddy Bridgewater from

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints is the most valuable free agent

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Speaker 1: quarterback likely to be available this offseason. Perhaps you think

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Speaker 1: Brady won't be available, not likely to be available, maybe

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Speaker 1: Forty three percent of you say he's the most valuable

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Speaker 1: say Tom Brady. We know who he is, we know

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Speaker 1: Fourteen percent say Philip Rivers, he's thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 1: Just you know cut Lucy yesterday. Seven percent say somebody else.

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Speaker 1: And there are candidates for somebody else, including you know,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Not likely the Cowboys will make him available,

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Speaker 1: Tannehill is going to come free and free agency at

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Speaker 1: least right now. There are some names here. Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Teddy Bridgewater, we talked about there's a

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Speaker 1: number of interesting names here, Steve, Jameis Winston, Jameis Winston, Chamber, Daniel, case, Keenum,

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Speaker 1: it never has gone this far down the road before.

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Speaker 1: There are other quarterbacks in play for New England and

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Speaker 1: everybody else. Things could change, and I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a pretty fun month to see where people go.

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Speaker 1: Even if Brady doesn't go anywhere. I think it could

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Speaker 1: be a pretty fun month to see where quarterbacks go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm kind of with our pole here.

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is the most intriguing. He's young, and he's

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Speaker 1: shown flashes of brilliance, but he's had inconsistent playtime because

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Speaker 1: of one the almost catastrophic knee injury he had four

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Speaker 1: or five years ago. But since then he's come back.

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Speaker 1: He has shown flashes of being the guy he was

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Speaker 1: drafted to be. He's a great leader, a locker, a

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Speaker 1: very good locker room guy, and he really showed up

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Speaker 1: big when they needed him the most this year in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. So I think he's really intriguing for a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams because of his age and because of

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Speaker 1: what he's shown as a quarterback. He early returns on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet brought you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills the most. Who is

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Speaker 1: the most valuable free age a quarterback to become available

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Speaker 1: to this offseason? Philip Rivers got us going on this

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Speaker 1: with his departure from the Chargers. I'm gonna start with

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Speaker 1: this one from the Process tweets this. Ind to me,

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Speaker 1: it's Teddy Bridgewater. I don't see a value in a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that will play one more year. Very good point.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the deciding factor. Who's only good for one

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Speaker 1: more year? Likely Brady. If he's available, Breeze not gonna leave, probably,

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Speaker 1: but he would be a one year fix for somebody.

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, one maybe two years. And that's why you

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Speaker 1: would pick Philip Rivers. If you're looking to rebuild and

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Speaker 1: maybe rebuild with a guy that you would keep around

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Speaker 1: for a while, that's why you would Teddy Bridgewater. Jack

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Speaker 1: tweets this, and no matter what, it's still TV twelve

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I don't like him, but I understand his greatness.

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Speaker 1: He's a proven winner who will add four to five

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Speaker 1: wins to any team he goes to. I hope it's

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Speaker 1: somewhere other than the AFC East. The Man, the Man

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Speaker 1: has ruined my adults sports NFL watching life. Please tillim

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Speaker 1: go to Tampa or LA ruined your adults sports watching

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Speaker 1: life tom Brady. Wow, that's that's that's like permanent. That's

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Speaker 1: permanent damage there. You should sue Brady for that, right

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Speaker 1: your honor, the plane, the plant off, his alleged that

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady has ruined his life watching sports. You know

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Speaker 1: what would be appropriate damages? Several thousands? Yes, probably probably nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's true. It's really intriguing for us here to to

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Speaker 1: think about because we have seen the guy play and

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Speaker 1: play well for so long, and there is gonna be

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Speaker 1: an appetite to have that guy suit up for your team.

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Speaker 1: He's forty two, no question. He's not gonna have an

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Speaker 1: arm like Josh Allen or you know, or Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: But the guy will bring a presence to your organization.

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Speaker 1: He will sell tickets like nobody else maybe ever has.

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Speaker 1: I think there's no question LA the Chargers seem to

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Speaker 1: be the likeliest team. They've They've made it known around

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Speaker 1: certain circles. At least we've been told that a couple

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Speaker 1: of times by different people. They want to take a

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Speaker 1: big home run swing at Tom Brady. To me, that's

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Speaker 1: big money and a long and a long contract. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be at least a three year deal

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Speaker 1: probably will be to get him to forty five that

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Speaker 1: he said he wanted to play. That might be the

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Speaker 1: deciding factor too. If a team commits to him to

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Speaker 1: let him try to play the least forty five years old,

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Speaker 1: that could decide and they may guarantee at a large

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Speaker 1: chunk of it, if not all of them. That's toy

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Speaker 1: and it's Tom Brady. I mean, he's the goat. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's and for that forever, he'll be linked to

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Speaker 1: your franchise as you know him. His stat line is

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Speaker 1: going to have your team across the bottom of it.

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Speaker 1: And he's the best guy ever. So if he can

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Speaker 1: and if he can come here play for you in

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Speaker 1: LA for the Chargers. You've got some great players out there,

497
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Speaker 1: some great offensive weapons. That window for the Chargers might

498
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Speaker 1: be closing exactly. You get in there and you and

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Speaker 1: you squeeze out a couple of playoff runs, deep playoff runs,

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Speaker 1: maybe a Super Bowl appearance. I think that's pretty enticing

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Speaker 1: for both sides of that. These are all good questions

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Speaker 1: for our guests at one o'clock Nick Hardwick, who follows

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Do they see their windows shrinking? The Chargers

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Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl championship. Look, I think the world

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Speaker 1: of Tom Talesco. I think, as I said yesterday, he

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Speaker 1: cuts ties with Philip Rivers yesterday. You know he's got

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Speaker 1: another move in his pocket that he wants to make.

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Speaker 1: Not going to tell you what it is, but you

509
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Speaker 1: know he's got another move to make. It'll be interesting

510
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Speaker 1: to see what the Chargers do next. What would you

511
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Speaker 1: do next? Who's the most valuable free agent quarterback likely

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Speaker 1: to come available on the market in five weeks? It's

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Speaker 1: five weeks from yesterday the legal tampering period begins, and

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Speaker 1: then five weeks from tomorrow. I believe thee March eighteenth

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Speaker 1: would be the start of the actual signing of players.

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Speaker 1: So we'll know by March sixteen, five weeks from yesterday.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call the Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll the most valuable free agent quarterback to become available

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Speaker 1: this year. Twitter poll is up and we're getting good

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Speaker 1: response in Teddy Bridgewater is a strong candidate right now

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Speaker 1: is the leader in the Twitter poll. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: look at some of the results from our Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: today Teddy Bridgewater, forty three percent say he would be

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Speaker 1: the most valuable free agent quarterback likely to be available

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Speaker 1: this offseason. Thirty four percent say Tom Brady, fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: say Philip Rivers, eight point percent say somebody else. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk more about this, We'll read more tweets, we'll take

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Speaker 1: more calls when we come back. Just getting started here

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Klada Health from the Seneca

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Speaker 1: Studio at One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, one those Live, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in

532
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio talking about quarterbacks. Who's going where

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Speaker 1: and who would be the most valuable free agent? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call eight three five fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty sending a

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Speaker 1: tweet and now we're talking about quarterback, Steve. This just

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Speaker 1: floores me and maybe I'm missing something. The New Orleans

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Speaker 1: Saints have, of course, Drew Brees, Teddy Bridgewilder behind him.

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Speaker 1: Then they got this guy restricted free agent, Taysom Hill,

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Speaker 1: who had good moments this year. Right, played a little quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he was a utility man. He played all over the place,

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Speaker 1: played running back, receiver tight end as well. He told

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Speaker 1: the Associated Press, I definitely view myself as a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill said he wants to stay in New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: but says he's willing to go elsewhere in search of

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Speaker 1: his best opportunity. A twenty nine year old restricted free

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Speaker 1: agent wants to play quarterback. Yeah, I want to, and

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Speaker 1: I want a pony to use airline right, that's mark.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna do it, and nobody's gonna sign Taysom

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Speaker 1: Hills to be a free agent to be a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's restricted her, and I'll tell you I can get better.

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Speaker 1: But what's he thinking saying that stuff. He's played with

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Speaker 1: one of the all time greats. He's got a very

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Speaker 1: good quarterback ahead of him on the depth chart. They

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Speaker 1: found a role for him to play, and he wants

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Speaker 1: at all like you said, I want for me. Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton did an outstanding job getting value on his roster.

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Speaker 1: He used Taysom Hill, who would be a third quarterback,

559
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Speaker 1: got some special team snaps out of him, got some

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Speaker 1: offensive snaps at him, got some trick plays out of him,

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Speaker 1: got kind of a package offensively out of him. Um

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Speaker 1: and then even in a year when the starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: goes down and Teddy Bridgewater steps in, Taysom Hill wasn't

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Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, they didn't turn to Taysom Hill

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Speaker 1: to start games when they had Teddy Bridgewater on the

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Speaker 1: on the field. And I'll say this too, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I haven't seen Taysom Hill play enough

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Speaker 1: snaps at quarterback to think, Okay, that guy is a

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Speaker 1: guy who can win it. Certainly he knows he's comfortable

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Speaker 1: playing quarterback. I don't know if he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: guy like a a Deshaun Watson or Lamar Jackson or

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Speaker 1: you know, any of those guys, or it's certainly a

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Speaker 1: ya the guy whom I kim trying to think of Mahome,

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, any of these guys. He's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. He runs the ball, he's physical,

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Speaker 1: he's a big dude, I think, but he's not. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: gonna build their offense around a twenty nine year old

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Speaker 1: like him. No, right, crazy, he's twenty eight, twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: What is he? Twenty nine? Yeah, I'm gonna be thirty

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Speaker 1: by next season. That's what I heard. I read that

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Speaker 1: and it's not gonna happen for him. Are you gonna

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Speaker 1: take Taysom Hill? And this is a good question. Taysom

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Speaker 1: Hill will give you what if you sign him to

584
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Speaker 1: be your guy? Say Tampa Bay is in the running here,

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is a guy and Philip Rivers is a guy.

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Speaker 1: Which one would you rather have? Taysom Hill or Philip Rivers?

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Speaker 1: I don't even consider them play in the same position

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Speaker 1: right to play quarterback, I'd take Philip Rivers at age

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Speaker 1: thirty eight because I don't even think Taysom Hill is

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Speaker 1: a line up every down or almost every down quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has that potential. Somebody would have

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Speaker 1: found it by now he's twenty nine years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well right now, and I'll say this as I've seen this,

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Speaker 1: you know firsthand. I mean, he's playing behind a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer, So he's not gonna get on the field

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Speaker 1: and take a bunch of snaps at You know, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna bench Drew Brees in the NFL for Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 1: But if the guy shows you something in practice, and

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Speaker 1: obviously he did, you got a head coach who's willing

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Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, you give the guy some snaps

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Speaker 1: and help let him help you out. But as you

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Speaker 1: see him here in the highlights that we're watching, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's an end around, it's a sweep, it's a

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Speaker 1: he comes in for this wildcat thing, or he plays

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Speaker 1: quarterback and then runs it. You know, I'm a gadget guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a package player. Gadgets are a bigger part of

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Speaker 1: the game now because everybody's running their quarterbacks. They're all protected.

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Speaker 1: And I think guess one of the things that why

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position is being transformed. We had we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get somewhere down the line, maybe at the combine, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get Bucky Brooks On He wrote a big article

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Speaker 1: about how the quarterback position has been transformed, and we're

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Speaker 1: seeing it before our eyes. He's right. One of the

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Speaker 1: reasons it's being transformed for by guys like Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: and Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen and Deshaun Watson and

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Speaker 1: all these guys. You've seen him run all over the field.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons for that is the protection there

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Speaker 1: will afford these guys. They can run the ball and

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Speaker 1: get out in the field and they slide, they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna take a hit. Quarterbacks can protect themselves. Now, certainly

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Speaker 1: they're gonna leave some yards on the table to do it.

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Speaker 1: But every team's willing to do that. Trade a first

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Speaker 1: down for no hit on your quarterback, or you know,

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Speaker 1: to have him run it. Yeah, the game has changed

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Speaker 1: and these these teams are out in front of it.

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill kind of fits that profile. But like we said,

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Speaker 1: he's twenty nine and he was on a really good

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Speaker 1: team getting run by a Hall of Fame quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. You know, he's not gonna pull you know,

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Speaker 1: may you know? I'll tell you what though, given his abilities,

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Speaker 1: he has made himself some money. I would think it

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna come out as a free agent or whatever. Right.

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Speaker 1: I think he's made himself some money, no question, But

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much different paid the Saints season

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Speaker 1: would have been with him not there. I'm gonna get

636
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Speaker 1: back to quarterbacks in a second. There's one other I

637
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: don't know outlier from the day's NFL news I want

638
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: to bring up with you. Did you I'm trying to

639
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: think you must did you did you ever play against

640
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Mark Gastineau when he was with the Jets a little

641
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: before my time. Yeah, he might be sixty three years old,

642
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: so he played in the early to mid eighty Yeah, yeah,

643
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: it's the sixty three I'm yeah. I had to have

644
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: played with him. He played for like what ten years,

645
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Yeah. Gastineau held the NFL marked with

646
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: twenty two sacks in one season. He had l mark

647
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty four when he set it to two

648
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: thousand and one. Final game of two thousand and one season,

649
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: Michael Strahan and the Giants broke his record with a

650
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: controversial sack of Packers quarterback Brett Five. Many believe Five

651
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: took a dive to give Strahan a solo sack in

652
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: a total of twenty two and a half. Gastineau was

653
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: an attendance that day. He congratulated Strahan on the field,

654
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: never tried to impugne the integrity of the record. But now,

655
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: eighteen years after suppressing his two feelings, the former jetstar

656
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: Mack Gasoneau goes public with his belief that the NFL

657
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: single season sack record should belong to him and not

658
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Michael Strahan. The quote from Gasono. He told ESPN this

659
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: yesterday in a phone interview. It's my record, and I

660
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: wanted to be known that it's my record. It's my record.

661
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings,

662
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: but it's my record. M what do you think of that? Well,

663
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: count it doesn't count as his record. I know somebody

664
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: else got it. I do not get it. He had

665
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: three really really good years, and we did overlap. Eighty six,

666
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: eighty seven, eighty eight. I was with the Bills eighty

667
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: seven eighty eight. We played twice against the Jets, so

668
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: he I would have played against him, although he only

669
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: played He played fifteen games in eighty seven, only seven

670
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: games in an eighty eight, which I don't know if

671
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: if those games were against the Bills, right, So yeah,

672
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: our careers overlapped a little bit. He had three good years.

673
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: He had nineteen sacks one year, twenty two sacks the

674
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: next year, thirteen point five the next year, and he

675
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: had in the eighty eight he had seven in the

676
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: only seven games. But the rest of his career combined

677
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: did not add up to the twenty two sack career

678
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: or the you know, certainly except for the nineteen twenty

679
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: two nineteen sacks one year and twenty two sacks the

680
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: next year. The rest of his career didn't even add

681
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: up to twenty sacks, So he only had two really

682
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: solid year, three really solid years, and he had twenty

683
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: two in one year, which was the NFL record. Yeah,

684
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. You talk about a guy who peaked

685
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: and then went away. He's the post coping reasons for that, right,

686
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: But aside from that, it calls into question Michael Strahan's record, right,

687
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's a good question to ask the

688
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: Strayhan record was it was artificial? Last day of the season,

689
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: five takes to dive rolls out, as I recall, it

690
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: rolls out, and let's Strayhan sack him. Strahan gets the

691
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: record just slides in front of him. He are you

692
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: okay with that? I don't know if I'm okay. I

693
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: wasn't okay with it when it happened. I thought it

694
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: was bad when it happened. Yeah, I don't know how

695
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: how much it had to do with the outcome of

696
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: the game. No, I think the game has already settled

697
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: at that point. Who yeah, and I listen, that's what

698
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? I mean, there's nothing you can

699
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: do about it. Eighteen years later, Mark Gasano says, I'm

700
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: gonna complain, which you're right. It's not gonna do any good.

701
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: But at least it brings attention to the fact that

702
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: Mark Gassoneau, with his twenty two sack a season, did

703
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: it legitimately. Michael Strahan did not. He got a gift

704
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: sack from Brett Fire. It's worth mentioning that thing. Yeah, yeah,

705
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: sure you can mention it. I don't blame Gassenau for

706
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: raising that issue, I really don't. I think he's onto something. Well,

707
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: we all noticed, we all knew it happened. We all

708
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: see it, and we all saw it, and we you know,

709
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: it was a big deal when it happened, and Brett

710
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: Farve gave him the sack, no question about it. You

711
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: can't even there's no there's no debate. They even laughed

712
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: about it. So yeah, it's a little bit disrespectful of

713
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: the game. Certainly disrespectful all the guys out there, you know,

714
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: busting a gut trying to get sacks. Yeah, but that yeah,

715
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: and don't I'm not really you know, I don't hold

716
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: any records, so what do I care? Right, So what

717
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: if you did hold a record that was break was

718
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: broken by somebody who didn't legitimately break the right. Can't

719
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: give you. I can't give you a straight answer that

720
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: because I can't put myself in that position. I'm like,

721
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: damn whatever. You don't want to see anything bad about

722
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: straighthand is that what it is? What? No? I don't

723
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: know either one of those guys. Mike seems like a

724
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: great guy. Mark Gaste certainly has had his issues. I

725
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: don't know him personally, who who knows who cares? But

726
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he's got a beef, no question, but

727
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: it's not gonna fly. I don't think it's gonna be changed.

728
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be changed. But he can. I don't

729
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: blame him for bringing it up, and it took him

730
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: eighteen years to bring it up, and he's been for

731
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: eighteen years. Of course, I don't know how many people

732
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: have been talking to him over there. Yeah, he's kind

733
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: of off the radar, but he's been off the radar

734
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: and for a variety of reasons. But I just think

735
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: it's legitimate. I think, eighteen years later, I still that

736
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: Michael Strahan sacked to set the record still doesn't sit

737
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: well with me, and I can't imagine it would sit

738
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: well with Mark Asson over the record holder. Yeah, that's

739
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Yeah, alright're gonna take a break. We're

740
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna come back, get more phone calls on the air

741
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: talking about the free agent quarterbacks who are likely to

742
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: become available. Who's the most valuable of that group? Give

743
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: us a call. Eight oh three five fifty toll free

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748
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Speaker 1: Seneca Studio. Happy, happy with us here today. We I

749
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: think we had a pretty decent Twitter pole, don't you

750
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: see looky, I'll started yesterday with Philip Rivers news. I

751
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: think that was big. That's the big. That was the

752
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: big one. And it's trying to get out in front

753
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: of it and see where these guys are gonna sign,

754
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: who's gonna be available, what's gonna happen with some of

755
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: the guys who are already out there, like Philip Rivers,

756
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: certainly his people are and I don't know whether they

757
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: released him or whether they're just gonna wait until his

758
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: contract runs out as to whether he can start talking

759
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: to people right away or not. I'm not sure how

760
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: that works. But nevertheless, a lot of teams are gonna

761
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: look very different, and I think this is kind of

762
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: something we're starting to see more and more. To Murphy

763
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: and we said about this team Bills, They're gonna look

764
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: a lot different year to year. It's kind of a

765
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: new thing to think about. There. You're just gonna look

766
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: a lot ni Nick Foles last year, Kirk Cousins, Alex

767
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: Smith in the last handful of years, these guys, Joe Flacco,

768
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: these guys have case Keenum have moved around. All these

769
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have moved around to different places. It's becoming more

770
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: and more common. And now we're gonna see another handful

771
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: of guys probably move and switch positions. Drew Brees has

772
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: said he's not going to be available. He's either going

773
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: to play for the New Orleans Saints or not. But

774
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: he's got, you know, behind him, Teddy Bridgewater, who wants

775
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: to play. He's gonna go someplace and play, and Taysom

776
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: Hill wants to play. So all the stuff is gonna

777
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: make it really interesting in the next month or so.

778
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm actually probably the next six weeks or so once

779
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: free agency hits as well. So it's not just the

780
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks either. It's a lot of other guys that are

781
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: going to come free and move around. So it's becoming

782
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: a little bit surprisingly normal from where I started in

783
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: my career. It's surprisingly normal. See a lot of guys

784
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: change teams year to year, and the Bills are going

785
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. They're gonna have some

786
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: new guys. They're not gonna make the changes they did

787
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: last year, but you know, last year they had nine

788
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: new starters on offense when they when Week one kit

789
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: kicked off. Probably won't see that kind of transformation this year,

790
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: but you will see some, and it's it's always interesting

791
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: to see. We're in the middle of it right now,

792
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of it doesn't have to do with

793
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Bills players, but certainly it's going to affect the players

794
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: available to them. I know free agency is part of

795
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: the game. It's not going away, and who knows what

796
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: the new CBA brings as far as free agency rules.

797
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: Do you think it's good for the game, It's way better. Why, Well,

798
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: it keeps teams engaged. You have teams, and it gives

799
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: the guy. It gives the players a chance to get

800
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: what's the going rate for their services, and certainly in

801
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: some cases they'll ruling a sacrifice to do it. You

802
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: think about what uh Levian Bell did two years ago.

803
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: Uh it was sitting out with the Steelers, then getting

804
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: in the free agency, then going to the Jets, and

805
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: it cost him, on paper at least some money, but

806
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: it's a point he wanted to make. He didn't want

807
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: to be there in Pittsburgh anymore. He wanted to get

808
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: a better deal. And is that good for the game?

809
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the best running backs in the

810
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: NFL sits a year out because of money. That can't

811
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: be good for the game. But I think it's I

812
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: think it's really good because it gives him. It gives

813
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: guys like us, not us, but like Bills fans or

814
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: Cincinnati fans, or they get a chance say listen, we

815
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: can get better now faster. You remember, back in the day,

816
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: there's teams that it was you were a decade away.

817
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: Now you're maybe two, like the Bills, two or three

818
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: years away from being a completely transformed franchise. And there's always,

819
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: that's always out there. It wasn't that way before. It's

820
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: good for the game to have superstars at various positions

821
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: take a year off. I don't see it that we're

822
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: not taking a year off. I mean, but he decided

823
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: to you're not gonna change that that in particular, well,

824
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: and it was he was was fa Levon Bell. That

825
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: was an example of what he's free to do. Exact

826
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: great example of exercising your freedom. Sometimes you're an idiot

827
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: and it's not good for the game. I don't think

828
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: well that, yeah, and being an idiot is not good

829
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: for any industry, let alone football. You can what he

830
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: was capable of doing. Having that mechanism in place is

831
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: good for the game. You can abuse it on the

832
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: players side, just like you can on the ownership side.

833
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: Or you used to be able to do it on

834
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: the ownership side. So that's good for the game. You're

835
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: letting idiots be idiots. I mean, you're gonna you're you're

836
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: stuck with that, and no matter what industry or what

837
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: system you have in place, where the free agency or not.

838
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm kind of saying it was crazy

839
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: for him to sit out with the first Steelers but

840
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't legislate sanity, right, You can't set

841
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: up a system where nobody can be crazy. You always

842
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna be Ask Antonio Brown how he's feeling about his

843
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: life right about now? Right, I mean, he just had

844
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: his agent kicked him to the curb. He's just been

845
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: found liabel for the damage to the apartment that he

846
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: threw the furniture out of and almost hit a toddler with.

847
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: He apologized to the Pittsburgh players, the coaches, and the fans,

848
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: and now the lawyer who's representing him in all these

849
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: cases that got him kicked out of the league. He

850
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: kicked him to the curb. That just came out today,

851
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: So he didn't even have a lawyer to help him

852
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: on all this. I mean, you can't legislate against crazy.

853
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: That's the problem. So if you're gonna have guys doing

854
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: that and going off the rails, no matter what system

855
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: you've got in place, you're gonna be stuck with those problems.

856
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: Phil in Rochester, Hello, Phil, you're on the air with us. Hey,

857
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my calls. I'm a Steelers fan and

858
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: what I would like to see is Pittsburgh make a

859
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: move to get Teddy Bridgewater tell me why, Well, while

860
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: this Bridge is in the last year of his contract,

861
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: he's what thirty eight years old. I really don't think

862
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh would resign him to along, you know, a big contract. Again, Yeah,

863
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: you're probably right. I don't think it's gonna end well. Phil,

864
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna end well for Ben in Pittsburgh.

865
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: I agree. I don't agree, and I think bringing Teddy

866
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: Bridgewater in might set you back a year because I

867
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: don't think Ben would like the competition. I think he's

868
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: a I think he believes, right or wrong, that he's

869
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: above that, that he's earned his spot and he can

870
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: end his career the way he wants to. And I've

871
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: always said, yeah, players can end their career whenever they want.

872
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: It should be on their terms when they end their career.

873
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: But the problem is this, You've got to end it.

874
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: You can't just keep playing and say I'm gonna end

875
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: it next year, the next year, the next year, the

876
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: next year. You gotta end and Ben, I don't think

877
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: we'll ever get to that point. When push comes to shove,

878
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to keep playing and it's not gonna

879
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: end well for him. So bringing Ted Teddy Bridgewater in

880
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: while on the football side is probably a good idea.

881
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you. They could use a guy like him,

882
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: particularly if Ben's there or not. Go ahead, Phil, say

883
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: hand go Joles to say how good he's going to

884
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: be after the arm surgery. Yeah, that's right, I get it. Um.

885
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. If he's good, then what are

886
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Yeah, you're right. If if if Ben's good,

887
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: he ain't coming off the field. And if if you

888
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: do force him and you bench Ben Roethlisberger, I'm pretty

889
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: sure Ben's not going to be all a happy camper

890
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: in that locker room. You want to go back to

891
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: where you were two years ago with your running back,

892
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's what will be. I mean it'll you'll

893
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: have an unhappy superstar. Thanks Phil. Let's call here from

894
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: Steve and Buffalo. Hello, Steve, you're on the air. How

895
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: are you doing. I'm calling to talk about our Buffalo Bills.

896
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: Two part questions, One, how do you feel about the

897
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills drafting Jerry Judy? And two? What do you

898
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: think we need this year upcoming free agency? Because we're

899
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: coming off a really, really really strong year playoff bound

900
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: No Josh Allen, Yeah, I got you. See Steve, what

901
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: is the first name he said about drafting Jerry Judy

902
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Yeah, yeah, receiver. Yeah, it depends on where

903
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: they can get him. He's not gonna be available at

904
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: twenty two. Yeah, he may be gone. And I don't

905
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: know if you want to with a with a draft

906
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: as deep as they are, Steve, and at that receiver position,

907
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to jump up to grab

908
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: a guy when you can get a really good guy

909
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: down the line. And listen, I get it, you want

910
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: to draft this number one gap, but you're not gonna

911
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: need a rookie wide receiver to come in and catch

912
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty balls. You might just want him

913
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: to catch like sixty or sixty five this first year

914
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: and let John Brown continue to catch seventy five and

915
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley to catch seventy five and all of that. So,

916
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to invest all the

917
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: capital into moving up with what they would take to

918
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: get a guy like like the guy you're talking about.

919
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. We got a break here. When

920
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: we return, we'll talk more about Philip rivers Is decision.

921
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: What went into it? What it was like playing with

922
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. We'll talk to the guy who was his

923
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: center for several years with the Chargers over the years,

924
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Nick Hardwick. He's joining us when we come back after

925
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: the top of the hour break. It is One Bill's Live,

926
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: presented by Klatta Health from the Seneca Studio on Buffalo

927
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: Bills Radio, Hills Radio Network Sports sting the update from

928
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. The Bills and really the rest of

929
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: the NFL still reacting to yesterday's news that Philip Rivers

930
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: is going to enter free agency, ending a sixteen year

931
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: run with the Chargers. They jointly announced the Chargers and

932
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: Rivers that the veteran quarterback's decision. General manager Tom Talesco

933
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: saying the timing of the announcement allows everyone to put

934
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: themselves in the best position for success in the upcoming

935
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: and fill season. It's the first domino to fall on

936
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: what you're being an important and interesting quarterback free agent market.

937
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: It starts about five weeks away. Restricted free agent Taysom Hill,

938
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: a utility quarterback for the New Orleans Saints, says he

939
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: thinks he can be the Saints quarterback of the future.

940
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: He was a revelation playing quarterback, running back, receiver and

941
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: tight end in Sean Payton's offense, and he told the

942
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Associated PRESSID in New Orleans, I definitely view myself as

943
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. He said he hopes his future is

944
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Miles Garrett made his case to get

945
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: back in the NFL yesterday in front of Commissioner Roger Goodell.

946
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: They met at the league office. The Cleveland Newspaper says

947
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: Garrett was suspended indefinitely in November using his helmet to

948
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: strike the barehead of quarterback Mason Rudolph during that Week

949
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: ten brawl with the Steelers. His punishment was the stiffest

950
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: ever levied by the league. Suspended two other players of

951
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: the third year pass rusher expected to be reinstated to

952
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: play very shortly. The Minnesota Vikings hired longtime coaching coordinator

953
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: Dom Capers to be a senior defensive assistant. He served

954
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: in the same role for the Jackson Bill Jaguars last year.

955
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: Two Attago Viola is maintaining speed on the track as

956
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: he gets ready to enter the NFL draft. The Alabama

957
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks three months seat scan on this fracture hip was

958
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: as positive as possible. Mark Casino says he wants full

959
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: credit for holding the NFL single season sack record. He

960
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: said that the Michael Strahan, who broke the record in

961
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, does not deserve it. Gassino says,

962
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: that's my record. Savers. They host Detroit tonight at Keybank

963
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: Center seven o'clock face off. Savers ten two and three

964
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: against the Red Wings this season, and Connor McDavid is

965
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: out two to three weeks and with a quad injury.

966
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: He will miss the injury and injured in Saturday's win

967
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: over the Nashville Predators. And there you go. That's the

968
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: update from Orchard Park. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, and are

969
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: One Buffalo Studio joined on the line right now to

970
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: talk about Philip Rivers. We've got a former teammate of his,

971
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: former Chargers center Nick Hardwick, who played eleven seasons in

972
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: the league, Pro Bowl appearance in two thousand and six.

973
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: Contributor to Extra Radio thirteen sixty in San Diego. Hello Nick,

974
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: John Murphy and STEAVEM. Tasker here in Buffalo. Thanks coming on, Hey,

975
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: John and Steve, Thank you guys for having me. I

976
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: appreciate it at the time, I appreciate your time coming

977
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: on with Philip Rivers not a surprise. I guess that

978
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: he is cutting his ties with the Los Angeles Chargers, right,

979
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: I guess it's not too big of a surprise. Although

980
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: there was the opportunity perhaps for the team to bring

981
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: it back enfranchise him, and there was the thought process

982
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: that they do have some older veterans that they could

983
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: continue to make maybe one more or two more pushes

984
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: with these guys that they haven't told yet. The team

985
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: decided it was time to move on. And I think

986
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: for both parties, really this is an amicable part and

987
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity for both teams to head

988
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: in a separate direction. Philip Rivers, what a wonderful career

989
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: that he had with the San Diego and the Los

990
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers both. And I tell you what, for me,

991
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: his legacy goes down as one of the toughest individuals

992
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: to ever wear an NFL uniform. And it doesn't matter

993
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: what uniform, doesn't matter what position. That is one tough

994
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: human being. Yeah, talk about what he's got left to

995
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: offer a team. What do you think, say, for instance,

996
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: a Tampa Bay or an Indianapolis or a Bronco or

997
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: whatever team signs him. What are they getting and what

998
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: does Philip Rivers have left to offer another NFL team? Well,

999
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: it's really interesting with Philip and with a team who

1000
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: may be interested at him, he has to go to

1001
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: a team a lot like the Denver Broncos were when

1002
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: they picked up Peyton Manning from the Indianapolis Colts. You're

1003
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: getting an aging quarterback who may not be as good

1004
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: as he once was, he's as good once as he

1005
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: ever was. And what you're getting is an incredible rolodex

1006
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: in the brain of defenses, defensive coordinators how to attack

1007
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: and how to get your team into the best play.

1008
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: And you're also getting one of the best leaders that

1009
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: I have ever been around in my entire life. Guys

1010
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 1: will do anything for Philip Rivers. I mean the guys

1011
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: that we played with would throw ourselves in front of

1012
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: a train to this day to say Philip Rivers, that's

1013
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: how much we care about him, and that's what kind

1014
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: of guy he wants to play for. Hey, Nick, Steve

1015
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: and I have talked on this show when Steve's close

1016
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: with Frank Wreich, who of course was offensive coordinated there

1017
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: in San Diego not long ago. Frank wrek used to

1018
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: tell Steve that Philip Rivers knew how to set pass

1019
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: protection schemes and understood pass protection schemes as well as

1020
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: anybody he's ever seen. He called him a sabat at protections.

1021
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: Do you find that Did you find that to be

1022
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: the case when you're playing on the offensive line in

1023
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: front of him? Oh? Yeah. We spent a lot of

1024
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: time together in the meeting room working on pass protection,

1025
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: blitz pick up, and I really do believe him and

1026
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: I and the offensive line and our coach at the time,

1027
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: how Hunter, our offensive line coach, were really at the

1028
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: forefront of evolving pass protection. It's changed since that time.

1029
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the offenses have completely evolved since then, going

1030
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: to more mobile quarterbacks. But Philip to this day still

1031
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: builds out the offensive pass protection scheme for the Chargers.

1032
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: He was as of last year, he was putting together

1033
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: a PowerPoint presentation telling the guy exactly who they're responsible for,

1034
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: how we're going to handle the blitz is. And you

1035
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: talk to any defensive coordinator, all of the high level guys,

1036
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer, you talk Rex and Rob Ryan, those guys,

1037
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: they all will tell you Philip Rivers was a royal

1038
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: paint at the behind when it came to trying to

1039
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: attack him, because he knew what you were doing, and

1040
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: he spent countless hours on pass protection and understanding how

1041
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: to pick up the blitz is. He not only knew

1042
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: his job, the running backs job, the tight ends, the

1043
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers. He could tell every offensive lineman, not just

1044
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: on pass plays, but on run plays too. He could

1045
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: tell them what their assignment was, and even down to

1046
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: the minutia of what their call is. He was so

1047
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: detail oriented he could tell you if you stepped wrong,

1048
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: if you put your hand wrong on a guy. I mean,

1049
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers does have one of the savant minds. To

1050
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: steal Frank Reich's words, He's got a photographic memory and

1051
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: he's hard to fool. What do you think the likeliest

1052
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: landing spot is for Philip Rivers? I mean, that's you know,

1053
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: the landscape of the league about as well as we do,

1054
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: or if not better. Where do you think what team

1055
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: would benefit the most from him. I'll give you three

1056
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: teams that I think he can go to. You guys

1057
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: brought up a couple of them, Indianapolis and Tampa Bay.

1058
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: Indianapolis to me, is a really natural fit. I think

1059
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: it's a great fit. What you have to have with

1060
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Philip as intensive a pocket quarterback as you could possibly have,

1061
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: he is wildly immobile. He has to have a very

1062
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: good old school offensive line who can give him time

1063
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: to diagnose the defense and to be able to go

1064
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: through his progressions. He's not going to be an RPO guy,

1065
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: certainly not going to be his own read guy. You

1066
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: got to have a good offensive line. Indianapolis has that.

1067
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: They also have a young defense who if they can

1068
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: find some health, could really help. They got to run

1069
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: game going there, and the familiarity of Frank Reich and

1070
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator Nick Sirianni, who's also worked with Philip

1071
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: in the quarterback room. I think that would be a

1072
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: fantastic matchup. And then kind of an intriguing one for

1073
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: me is Tampa Bay, who's Bruce Arians has worked with

1074
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: both Carson Palmer and had a ton of success with

1075
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: him and with Kurt Warner. And so when you talk

1076
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: about that matchup, an aging quarterback, a pocket quarterback. But

1077
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they have the offensive line, and

1078
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're quite ready for a Philip Rivers.

1079
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: They may be looking for something to hold them over

1080
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, but it has to benefit

1081
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: both parties. Here's a kind of an intriguing one. If

1082
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady does happen to leave New England, the Patriots

1083
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: don't really have a viable contingency plan in place. Philip

1084
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: Rivers may be a great option for the Patriots. And

1085
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, as a former player, at the end

1086
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: of my career, I would have loved nothing else. I

1087
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: would have played for free to go see inside the

1088
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: Death Star and how that whole operation was run. So

1089
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: for me, Philip Rivers to New England and then one

1090
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: crazy idea out there is that the Raiders aren't really

1091
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: too keen on Derek Carr. Philip Rivers to the rival

1092
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: Raiders may be an option because I do know John

1093
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: Gruden loves Philip and I can tell you that from

1094
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: all the Monday night football production meetings that we used

1095
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: to have. And he's got one of our old favorite

1096
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: coaches as a special team's coach and his right hand man,

1097
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Rich Fisacia, he also would swear by Philip Rivers. So

1098
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: that could be a really intriguing landing spot. Philip Rivers

1099
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: and Vegas with the Raiders. Nick Hardwick is our guest

1100
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: former Chargers center who played his career with Philip Rivers.

1101
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: Nick does at this stage in his career, age thirty eight,

1102
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 1: does geography matter to Philip Rivers with his family moving

1103
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: with him back to or moving him to Florida doesn't matter?

1104
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: Does he if he's close to home or is he

1105
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: ready to uproot that huge family and move him to

1106
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: New England or Yeah, it doesn't matter. It really doesn't

1107
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: matter location. I mean, he's built his family on three

1108
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: guiding principles faith, family, and football and everybody that that

1109
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: is so intertwined in his family. They're really mobile. I

1110
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: know they have nine kids and it sounds like, oh

1111
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: my goodness, what a headache. Elementary school, middle school, high school,

1112
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: has got all through the ranks. He's got a kid

1113
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: going to college next year. But they are so bought

1114
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: into the football program in the football lifestyle, they're willing

1115
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: to go anywhere and it'll be a deal where they

1116
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: just go, they find a house and they rent. And

1117
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: people thought, you know, when he went back to Florida,

1118
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: that he's making his permanent residence there. That's not the case.

1119
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: He's always had a vacation home in Florida, beautiful spot

1120
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: on the water, and that's kind of a safe harbor.

1121
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: And so after a tough season where he was getting

1122
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: a lot of scrutiny uncertainty about the future, I think

1123
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: he just retreated back to the safe harbor, let the

1124
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: family reset a little bit. And then even if the

1125
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: Chargers were to pick him up, which we know they

1126
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: are going to, if they were to bring him back,

1127
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: he was just going to rent a house up in

1128
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. So I think what it said was, let

1129
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: me get a little bit of safety and wherever we're going,

1130
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm done commuting. I'm not going to do the commute

1131
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: hour and a half there and back from San Diego

1132
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles any longer. So regardless, he was going

1133
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: to Florida get safety, and that he's going to rent

1134
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: a house. I'm assuming wherever he ends up. You brought

1135
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: up his commute. It never seemed like he was settled.

1136
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: Once the Chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles.

1137
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: He did he buy into that move with the long community.

1138
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: He commuted every day right from San Diego every day

1139
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: every day. Oh yeah, he definitely bought into the I

1140
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: mean the thought process to me that the LA community

1141
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: didn't commit to the team because Philip Rivers didn't commit

1142
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles community is just so ridiculous. I mean,

1143
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: he's he put probably a quarter million dollars into a

1144
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: sprinter van that he tricked out. It's got satellite, he

1145
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: was able to watch all of his film and talking

1146
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: to him, he said, Nick, I get more work done

1147
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: on the way to and from in the commute and

1148
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: the back of this It was a really nice sprinter van.

1149
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: It had like airline first class seats that he could

1150
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: completely recline. He got more work done in a really

1151
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: systematic manner with no distractions in that van than he

1152
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: did by living next door to the facility and showing

1153
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: up and having a bunch of guys pop in with

1154
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: the breakfast while he's trying to work on this blitz

1155
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: cut up that we just talked about. So I just

1156
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: don't think that they're in my opinion, with Philip, lack

1157
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: of commitment is laughable. He is the most committed, caring

1158
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 1: guy that I've ever been around. If a football team

1159
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: cared as much as Philip Rivers cares about winning and

1160
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: is willing to put in the time and effort that

1161
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: it takes to win. They would win a championship every year.

1162
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that's not the case. One thing I got to

1163
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: ask you about. I know that Tyrod Taylor is on

1164
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: the roster for the San Diego Chargers. What do you

1165
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: anticipate the chargers next move to be. I think Tyrod's

1166
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: going to be a great insurance policy for the Chargers,

1167
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: and I do expect them to draft somebody that got

1168
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: the number six overall pick, and I expect it really

1169
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: to be as a lot of pundits are speculated that

1170
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be Justin Herbert out of Oregon, big,

1171
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: strapping kid, physical. I think he really fits in nicely

1172
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: into the modernization of football. I think he has similar qualities,

1173
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: although probably not the eighty five yard canon of your own,

1174
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He's big, he's physical, he can run, he

1175
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: can pick up those first downs with his legs, which

1176
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: I think, as we're watching football now, that is such

1177
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: a necessary trade to have. And I also believe he

1178
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: fits right in alignment with the Chargers are with their

1179
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: kind of organizational philosophy. They're a very safe organization and

1180
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: they don't like to take big risk, and I think

1181
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: he may be the safest quarterback in this one of

1182
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: the safest quarterbacks that they can draft at that position.

1183
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: I would say the kid out of LSU, Joe Burrow,

1184
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: is probably the safest pick overall. But justin Herbert does

1185
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: seem like a safe play and it fits right in

1186
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: alignment with the Chargers at that number six spot. Nick Hardwick,

1187
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 1: former Chargers radio talent, former Chargers center on the line

1188
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: with us, Nick, what about the speculation that maybe, with

1189
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, a pretty good assemblage of talent there on

1190
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball and the clock ticking, maybe

1191
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers go out and get a big name free

1192
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: agent quarterback. Maybe Tom Brady's that crazy to think. I

1193
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: think it's crazy. I know. We talked to Tom Curran

1194
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston the other day on my radio show,

1195
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: and Tom seems to think that it could be potentially

1196
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: a good fit. And I think from the outside, when

1197
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: you look at the Chargers and you go, well, they

1198
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: got Keenan Allen, they got Hunter Henry that they could

1199
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: bring back, maybe franchise tag him, and you got Mike

1200
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: Williams on the other side. But I think when you've

1201
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: lived in the family for a while and I've studied them,

1202
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: and I've watched them so closely over the years. There

1203
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: are significant holes yet remaining on that team. And I

1204
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: think if Tom Brady took a really close look at

1205
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: the team itself, he'd say, and like a lot of

1206
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: people talking about before the twenty nineteenth season, the Chargers

1207
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: are Super Bowl favorites. And when I was looking at

1208
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: the roster that they had a symbol, I thought, that's

1209
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: a stretch in my opinion. It turned out to be

1210
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: a big stretch with the season that they had. Of course,

1211
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: Melville Gordon was holding out Hunter Henry got hurt at

1212
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. There were left tackle Russell

1213
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: Locuon was out for a significant portion with pulmonary embolism,

1214
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: not sure if he was going to be coming back.

1215
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: So they got off to the wrong kind of start

1216
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: to have a really successful year, and I think it's

1217
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: hard to make up for that. But then another thing

1218
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady and the Patriots, I mean, we're talking

1219
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: a team who has for the last twenty years made

1220
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: their base camp of a season essentially the AFC Championship Game.

1221
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: And then you're talking about going from a team who's

1222
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: got two of their own seven thirty sevens? Do we

1223
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: lose him? Lost? Nick hard He was making a good

1224
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: point there. I want to hear that point. I'll try

1225
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: to reset his contact with Nick Hardwick. He's making a

1226
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: lot of sense, right, Who was he talking about the

1227
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: Patriots make their base camp, Dave exactly? Yeah, with a

1228
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: couple of seven thirty sevens. Yeah, I don't know what

1229
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: point he was going to make that the Chargers don't

1230
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: spend the money to compete with the Patriots. Is that it?

1231
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe that maybe maybe certainly that the

1232
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: Patriots get the big, big break because their quarterback has

1233
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: been playing at a discount for ten years. Yeah, So

1234
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: I want to hear what that point was. I think

1235
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 1: Nerge of making a good point with Nick Hardwick. Farmer

1236
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Charger Center, made the Pro Bowl in oh six, played

1237
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: eleven seasons in the NFL, and does work for Extra

1238
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: Radio in San Diego thirteen sixty AM in San Diego.

1239
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: Nick Hardwick was on the Chargers broadcast with our guest yesterday,

1240
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: Matt money Smith for a year or two since they

1241
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: moved to Los Angeles. Hardwick was a guy who played

1242
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: the game at about three hundred and three hundred and

1243
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: ten pounds three hundred and eight pounds and now weighs

1244
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: about two thirty wow. And he did it really quick

1245
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: after he retired and he got to trim. He gave

1246
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: up the game. He gave up football when he was

1247
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: in high school as a ninth grader and took it

1248
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: back up, walked on to Purdue, and he was actually

1249
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: a teammate of Drew Breeses and the guy that came

1250
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: after Drew brees and I can't remember the guy's name,

1251
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: but he was a player. I'd walk on it at Purdue.

1252
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: And so now and now we've got Nick back with us. Nick,

1253
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: were you were making a point Nick, Nick Hardwick about

1254
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: the two seven thirty seven's upfront up in New England.

1255
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: What was your point again? Yeah, I mean the point was,

1256
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots set up base camp in the

1257
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game twelve wins, thirteen wins this season, not

1258
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: to mention all of the money and the resources that

1259
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: that organization has. They own two of their own seven

1260
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: thirty sevens with the Patriot logo and the flag on

1261
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: the side, and you're talking about going to and this

1262
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: isn't me being critical of the team. This is just

1263
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: me being honest about the situation. And I think a

1264
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Speaker 1: lot of people around the NFL know this. The Chargers

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Speaker 1: have some of the fewest resources of any NFL team

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Speaker 1: out there, along with the Raiders and the Bengals. And

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Speaker 1: that's not really speculation, that's just kind of the truth.

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Speaker 1: And so when I look at Tom Brady choosing a team,

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Speaker 1: it would be very difficult for me to see him

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Speaker 1: going from the Patriots and all of the resources and

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Speaker 1: the huge fanship that they've got over there to go

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Speaker 1: into the Los Angeles Chargers, who we have to face it,

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: and Los Angeles don't have a fan base yet, and

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Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of resources to be thrown

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Speaker 1: around extra money to go get the positions that maybe

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Speaker 1: Tom would be demanding of. Huh. You know, Nick, you're

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Speaker 1: playing into the hands of my partner here, who has

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Speaker 1: been pretty critical of the Chargers ownership in their commitment

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Speaker 1: to winning. But isn't it all going to change once

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Speaker 1: the new stadium what is it, Sofi stadium? I once

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Speaker 1: they move in there, they should fix their problems, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the stadium fixes anything, really, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that it fixes anything. And I wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're moving into a new stadium, if

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Speaker 1: you're getting you're trying to assemble some type of a

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Speaker 1: fan base, you'd know. Do you watch the games? The broadcasters,

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01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: the comment commentators were very critical of the fans that

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Speaker 1: or the lack of fans that the Chargers were able

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Speaker 1: to give. I mean the Raiders last home game for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers up in Carson, it was ninety percent Raiders

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01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: fans in that stadium. And so when I think about

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Speaker 1: moving into a brand new, shiny stadium in Inglewood, California,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be absolutely gorgeous. I wonder is it going

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01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: to be even more of a cave or more of

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01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: a hollow sound? And you're gonna be walking into an

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Speaker 1: empty party rather than a full party. It's really difficult

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Speaker 1: to build that momentum when you don't have a base

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Speaker 1: to grow from. I think that's a very difficult task

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Speaker 1: for them, and they've got a lot of years of

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Speaker 1: hard work and frankly winning ahead of them. I think

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Speaker 1: nothing grows a fanship in a new city like winning does,

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01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: and trust you have to build the trust, and you

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Speaker 1: build the trust through winning in a new city. Very interesting, Yeah,

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01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: it's you're right. I think it's gonna it's hard to

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01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be sharing a stadium with the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be. They're a tenant in that stadium,

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01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: are they not. I mean, they don't own any party,

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01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: so it's hard to make a profit when you're renting

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Speaker 1: um at the kind of levels you're talking about in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It'll be interesting to see, because you're right,

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01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 1: it was. You know, from the outside looking in, people thought, Wow,

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: it must be a little bit embarrassing for the players

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01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: and coaches to go out and see in their own

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Speaker 1: stadium kind of being treated like the away team. I

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Speaker 1: knew it was. It's been that way ever since they've

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Speaker 1: been playing in the in the stadium, in the soccer

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Speaker 1: stadium that they've been populated. So yeah, how long I

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Speaker 1: mean give you know, is it gonna ever? Will we'll

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Speaker 1: football work in LA, whether it's the Chargers or the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it hasn't before. I think it's gonna be tough,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be very difficult for the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: It's there's a lot going on in Los Angeles. It's

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01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: a transient population. They've already kind of got their teams

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01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: that folks have built around, and I just think it's

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01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a long, tough slog for them to be

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Speaker 1: able to build up the fans and kind of the

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Speaker 1: core of fans that they're looking for. I mean, we're

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: talking about you've got to go generations deep. If I'm

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01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: the Chargers, I'm going after the five year olds to

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01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: the ten year olds and really trying to bring them

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01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: into the stadium, perhaps on a free basis, to build

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01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: them up as good lifelong fans, and then to build

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01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: that core. I mean, we're talking about those five and

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01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: ten year olds have to have their own children, who

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01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: have to have their own children. It takes a long time,

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01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, to build a fan base up like that.

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Speaker 1: And here's kind of my thoughts over the last three

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Speaker 1: years of when they were playing at the soccer stadium

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Speaker 1: up in Carson Is. You know, I honestly felt bad

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01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: for some of the guys who had experienced what a

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01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: real NFL home stadium felt like and to have the

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01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: advantage of the crowd, and for the guys who hadn't

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01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: to be going into that stadium and that was their

1344
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: first NFL experience. Say they got drafted three years ago

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: and they played in front of twenty five thousand and

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: then the home fan. That is not at all with

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01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: a college kid or a kid growing up dreaming of

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. That was not the dream. I

1349
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: honestly just felt bad for those kids that was and

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Speaker 1: this is their NFL experience. Hey, before we let you go, Nick,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like your computers get ready to go.

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01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: Just to get you back to where you started. Philip Rivers,

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01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: you were a teammate of his and I get the intensity,

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01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: but were there times when he would it seemed like

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01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: he would kind of rag on his own teammates and

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01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: criticize faults on the field. Obviously you talked about how

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01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: loyal his teammates were to him, but how did he

1358
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: walk that line, you know, keep after his teammates and

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01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: criticize players that he's playing with and still have their

1360
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: loyalty in their respect. Sure, he's very demanding on the field,

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01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: and you just as a family member, you kind of

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01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: understand your other family members and where their behavior kind

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01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: of stems from. And I think from the outside people

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01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: look at his behavior and his body language and you're

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: not necessarily understanding of kind of what's happening behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: and how much care he shows to every individual. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I played with so I played with so many guys

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Speaker 1: over the years, and nobody touched or had a relationship

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: a good relationship with everybody on the team like Philip

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01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 1: Rivers does. And you can get away with those things

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01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: when the time that you put into the facility, the

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Speaker 1: time you put into the preparation and the practice, when

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: you put more in than everybody else, you also have

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Speaker 1: a little bit more slack with the behavior. But I

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01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: will say this, Philip is just an unbelievable guy, and

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01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: we lost them it might have been way to end again.

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Speaker 1: Great guy, Yeah, and you can kind of see that

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01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: out of it. I've done a number of San Diego games.

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01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: I did a number San Diego games over the course

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Speaker 1: of my broadcasting career with CBS. Philip always came across

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Speaker 1: as a real professional guy. He worked hard at it.

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Speaker 1: He had the utmost respect for the people in the building,

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: and that's they don't give that away. Yeah, you know,

1384
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: they you gotta earn. Yeah. I've always like Philip Rivers

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: and I wish him well. I hope he plays more

1386
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: our thanks to Nick hardwork. Sorry the way that ended.

1387
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 1: But we won't bother him anymore. He's the former Chargers

1388
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: center played eleven seasons for them, pro bowled appearance in

1389
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: oh six, former broadcaster on the Chargers radio network, now

1390
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: a contributor to Extra Radio thirteen sixty in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: Nick Hardwick, you know, I'm laughing because you know who

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: he reminds me of when he came on the radio

1393
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: and start talking in his voice, his mannerisms, even the

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: kind of the way he looked. He's the spitting image

1395
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: of Phil Hanson. Yeah, Bills defensive end. He spoke like him.

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: His words were liking his language. I mean they could

1397
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: have been brothers. A good point. It looked almost they

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01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: It's almost the same guy. I was amazing. Can I

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01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,919
Speaker 1: say this too about what he got talking about the deficit?

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01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: It put the Chargers into play in that stadium the

1401
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: last what three years, and the smaller stadium in Carson, California.

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01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: I agree, I see it, and we only had one

1403
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: Bills game there. I really liked that place, and maybe

1404
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: it was just me as a long time better and thinking,

1405
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: oh this is different. It was totally different, right, it was.

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: It was charming to have a little stadium nestled into

1407
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: a southern California college campus with what about a third

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: the number of people would be in a regular game. Yes,

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01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: there were too many Bills fans that that day for

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: a road game, as I'm sure there are too many

1411
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: Raiders fans several times. But it was just kind of

1412
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: a neat, small scale atmosphere where you could reach out

1413
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: and almost touch those players. I thought it was different

1414
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: for the NFL. Not the future of the NFL, to

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: be sure, but I thought it was pretty cool. I

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01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: don't know that it's not kind of more futuristic than

1417
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: you want to say. I know, the league's never gonna

1418
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: leave any two nickels on the on the table if

1419
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: they can get it so there. But you got to

1420
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: know this too, that the ticket prices and the tickets

1421
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: they get for these games are not an enormous piece

1422
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: of the pie that the league makes anymore, you know

1423
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, it's not the main source of

1424
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: revenue like it was when they started back in the

1425
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: thirties and the forties, fifty sixty, seventy, all the way

1426
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 1: through those decades. It was ticket prices that kind of

1427
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: drove the revenue, and then when they made in the

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01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: sixties seventies, as they started doing the television contracts, then

1429
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: things did change. But would we ever see a time

1430
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: when the ticket prices and the concessions and the parking

1431
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: and all the stuff the teams get, would that would

1432
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: become such a small piece of the pie that they

1433
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: would say, you know what, how about let's make a

1434
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: stadium like like the one is saying, let's make one,

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: create an appetite for the tickets. Make it like a

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01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand seats statium, very intimate, very small. All

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01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: the seats would be premium seats and that would be

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01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: and everybody else can watch it on TV and you

1439
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: can kind of you know what I mean, It kind

1440
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: of makes some sense at that level. But they're not

1441
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: going to go backwards now, and they just built you

1442
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 1: go down to Jerry World, They're not going backwards, They're

1443
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: going forward. Jerry World the exact opposite of that stadium

1444
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: in City. That's right. It is a fifty thousand seats

1445
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: they sell in that thing ninety It's not cool. I

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: just looked up Nick Hardwick's background. He grew up in Indianapolis,

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01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: so he's a Midwestern or Lake Philhanson, and it's maybe

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: why he sounded like he played. He was inspired. This

1449
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 1: is just looking at his quick bio. The Boiler Purdue

1450
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: goes to the two thousand one Rose Bowl, so he

1451
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: decides to join the Purdue team as a walk on. There,

1452
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: plays defensive tackle, becomes the starting center, goes all big

1453
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: ten the following year. You know who his quarterback wasn't

1454
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: he was the senior at Purdue. Uh No, guess Kyle Orton.

1455
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Orton, Yeah, play here it was. I couldn't remember

1456
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: who else he had played with. Good guy, fun time.

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about the computer mix ups. It was still

1458
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: good to talk with Nick Hardwork. All right, we got

1459
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: a break. We're coming back with more. One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Klata Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park.

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01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live.

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: We're talking about quarterbacks. Where are they going? What's the who?

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01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: Our Twitter poll today? Who is the most valuable free

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: agent quarterback to become available this offseason? What say we

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: check the Twitter poll before? We talk about a couple

1466
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: of issues that Nick Hardwick brought up. Do you agree

1467
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: with that? Steve? All Right? Go ahead, let's do it.

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01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: The most valuable free agent back to become available to

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: off the season. You got a choice, and we got

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01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: a couple. There's more than a couple of quarterbacks who

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Speaker 1: are interesting prospects are going to be free in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, five weeks. Who's the most valuable? Four

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01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: and fifty votes in so far? Thirty four or forty

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: three percent, say Teddy Bridgewater. It's surprises me. We talked

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01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: about this. We're coming up with our show planned earlier today.

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: I think we both agreed that Brady would. We thought

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: Brady would be the dominant factor here. Would you say

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: ninety two percent of the people are going to vote

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: for Brady? Look at that, Teddy Bridgewater is the leader.

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Speaker 1: Thirty four percent say Tom Brady, fourteen percent say Philip Rivers,

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: nine percent of somebody else in mind. I agree, and

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I agree with him. Bridgewaters got

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: more to offer at this point, more years anyway, Well,

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01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: it depends on what you're looking for. We had this

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: conversation and I said, listen, if I will, nick hartwould

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01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: just ruined. Nick Hartwood just ruined my day. Former center

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01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: of the Chargers. You came in and said he thought

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01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: the likeliest landing spots for Philip Rivers. Can you imagine

1489
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: Bills fans if the New England Patriots get Philip Rivers

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: to play form Oh my gosh, what because at this

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: point he's he's everything that Tom Brady is and maybe

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01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: even better. I don't know about that, he's four years younger. Yeah,

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01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: I don't know about Oh my gosh, that would that

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01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: would absolutely reek. Nick Hardwick, who was a great guest

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: we just had on and said it. He offered us

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: four options. The Colts, which we talked about extensively yesterday

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers background with Frank Raik and Nick Sirianni,

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01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: the Jamestown native who works with Frank in Indianapolis. A

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: second choice would be Tampa Bay. I agree with with

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01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: Hardwick when he talked about how the offensive line of

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay might make that a non starter for Philip Rivers.

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01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: The third team he mentioned was the Raiders, which I

1503
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: found interesting to play for John Gruden up in Las Vegas.

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01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: Now with the Raiders, I don't know. I don't know

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01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, I don't know, I don't I wouldn't

1506
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: put Yeah, maybe the Raiders I don't listen. We talked

1507
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: about how the Chargers want to make a splash in LA,

1508
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: so do the Raiders, right, you know, they want to

1509
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: get people to come watch them play as well in

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01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: their new stadium. That's one thing. That's one way to

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01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: do it. That's one way to do it, no question

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01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: about it. And his fourth option was New England, which

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: Steve just said would break his heart. Got Twitter responses

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Speaker 1: to this. Let's go to the tweet sheet brought you

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Chris responds.

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01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: The most valuable for agent quarterback this offseason Teddy Bridgewater

1520
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 1: for age potential. We talked about that at length. Tiffany

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: sends this and it's Brady hands down. We watched him

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01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: dominate the division for years, always having his team in

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: position to win championships. He had a down year last year,

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: they still won the division. His legacy to the Patriots

1525
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: extends past his playing career. All time greatest quarterback ever.

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01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: Okay I don't disagree with anything there. I don't know.

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01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if Brady. Look, I

1528
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: think Brady is more valuable. And this might be what

1529
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: you're saying when you don't think Brady's gonna leave New England.

1530
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 1: I think he is considerably more valuable as the Patriots

1531
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: quarterback than any other team. He would be for any

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01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: other team. He has more value as a Patriots quarterback

1533
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: than any other team he could go to. I don't know. Yeah,

1534
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe familiarity with the system, the coaching staff,

1535
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: Belichick and Josh McDaniel's, familiarity with the playing personnel, the elements,

1536
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: familiarity with the legacy that he's built there in New England.

1537
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: I just think he would be comfortable. And I think

1538
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: he has more value for New England than he would

1539
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: anywhere else. If he goes to another city, in the

1540
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: another team in the NFL, in many respects, he has

1541
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: to prove himself all over again. Would you be difficult

1542
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: to do it? I'll tell you this too. I don't think.

1543
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots are gonna overpay for him,

1544
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: which I think somebody obviously will in free agency. I'm

1545
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: talking myself slowly into seeing him to leave. But yeah,

1546
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: here's totally different than you were twenty four hours ago. Yeah,

1547
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Think about this. Tom was mediocre last

1548
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: year statistically. I don't care what he was about as

1549
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: a leader and all the intangible stuff that he brings

1550
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: to the table. He was mediocre at best right now.

1551
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: He didn't have very big weapons around him. But he

1552
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: wasn't as good as we've seen him now. Certainly there

1553
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: were no weapons around him and all of that. And

1554
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how good and much better anybody else

1555
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: would be, if at all. But after that statistical year

1556
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: by any quarterback, do you think the Patriots are worried

1557
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: about getting a guy in that can't do just that

1558
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: good as well, at least statistically. I don't know if

1559
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: they're sweating that at all. I think I don't know.

1560
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: I think they'd feel like they could get that from anybody.

1561
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: That's one way to look at it. I think if

1562
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: and they've already proven they can win twelve games with

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: an offense that wasn't that great. It wasn't that prolific.

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01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 1: So I've just googled up his stay. He threw for

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01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: four thousand yards last year, Steve twenty four touchdowns, in interceptions,

1566
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: quarterback rating was not good fifty three point seven. But

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01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: he had some decent numbers, right, four thousand yards, twenty

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01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, eight interceptions, completion percentage sixty one percent. Those

1569
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: aren't bad numbers. Those really aren't bad numbers. Yeah, So

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: I think you overstate the case. I think his numbers

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01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: were okay last year, but compared to his own career, yeah,

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01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean career wise. You know, he's sixty one percent

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01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: completion last year. Career, he's sixty four percent. A four

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01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 1: thousand yards is gonna do it anytime. He got a

1575
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: three to one margin in touchdowns interceptions three one ratio,

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01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: and he's about three to one for his career. So

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01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: it wasn't that far off season. I'm with you. Yeah,

1578
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: and he didn't have any help around him. We'll say

1579
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: that now. The one thing that would numbers are one thing.

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01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: We had a caller yesterday who said he's dinking in Duncan,

1581
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 1: which I do think is overstating it too. Remember the

1582
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: caller we had yesterday, yep. But their passing game has

1583
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: adjusted so to accommodate his aging and his lack of

1584
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: arm strength and they are a short passing offense. Now,

1585
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: his aging, his lack of arm strength, and the fact

1586
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: that he had a bunch of guys that couldn't weren't

1587
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: in there. Josh Gordon left, Antonio Brown left, Rob Gronkowski left,

1588
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: or they were without him for the entire year. So

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01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: he and they were doing it with guys who can

1590
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: Nikil Harry was there, but he was just learning. He

1591
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: was a rookie. Now he's a big, strong, physical athlete,

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01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 1: and he got better as the season wore on, but

1593
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 1: that was a process for him, you know. So he

1594
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: was left out there with nobody trusted to accept Julian Edelman,

1595
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: who was beat up and not one hundred percent most

1596
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: of the year. So you can make all the excuses

1597
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: you want, but it's still a team that won twelve

1598
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: games with a great defense and elite defense that you

1599
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: couldn't score on, and an offense it was just, you know,

1600
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: good enough, just good enough. So what do you think

1601
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback had to do with all of that? Can

1602
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: you could they get that kind of production from somebody else,

1603
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: anybody else? I doubt anybody else, But certainly there's some

1604
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: guys in free agency that they've got to feel like

1605
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 1: they could probably get some good out of I don't

1606
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: know if they can build an offense. I still think

1607
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 1: he's more valuable there than anywhere else, and maybe I

1608
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: don't know if they would be comfortable going into the Patriots.

1609
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm talking about going with any other quarterback can feel

1610
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: just as good about pretty I really don't know think

1611
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: about this though, as good there as any as more

1612
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: valuable there as anywhere else. They're gonna sell tickets no

1613
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: matter what they're Now value you're talking about a football

1614
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: side of it. I assume right you're talking about value

1615
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: as a football player, because there's no question he's gonna

1616
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: sell more tickets from zero ground zero in LA than

1617
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: he is in New England. New England's gonna be sold

1618
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: out all next year anyway, with or without him. I

1619
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: think it's pretty popular in New England now, I get it.

1620
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: But you know, don't they move on? What the fans

1621
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: are gonna You're gonna come out and start winning games

1622
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: and they'll say, okay, we're still here in LA. How

1623
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: big a percentage you're gonna buy a ticket just to

1624
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 1: see that guy play? Right, It's gonna be like eighty

1625
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: five percent of the people are gonna buy him just

1626
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: to see him in LA and then all you got

1627
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: all the visiting teams that are gonna come in and

1628
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: probably dominate the stadium again. But you know what I mean.

1629
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: So you're talking about value that way to an ownership group,

1630
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: you could see it most valuable free agent quarterback to

1631
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: become available this offseason. Who is it? A good tweet?

1632
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: An interesting tweet from God Billers, who makes a very

1633
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: good point. Go. Billers says, if you need a quarterback

1634
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: to be a franchise guy, I think Bridgewater has the

1635
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: most to offer. If you need a quarterback that can

1636
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: just do the job on a team that's working with

1637
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: a window like the Patriots are, Tom Brady is your guy.

1638
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: I agree, And he goes not to say I'd take

1639
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: Winston over Rivers because Rivers cannot physically throw. I don't

1640
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: agree with that. I wouldn't take Winston over any of

1641
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: the available I think Jamis Winston is so erratic and

1642
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: so careless with the ball. I wouldn't trust him with

1643
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust him with a used car. Well here,

1644
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would not give him the keys to

1645
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: my car. All right here, Well, here's the thing. Too.

1646
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston through for five thousand yards this year and

1647
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,440
Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns all at but he had the thirty interceptions.

1648
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about him. He did that with a

1649
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 1: guy who is accepted as being one of the great

1650
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: quarterback whisperers of his generation. He's had great success with

1651
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: a ton of quarterbacks, Bruce Arians, and Jamis still through

1652
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: it like that. I mean he didn't. I don't know

1653
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 1: who's gonna who You're gonna coach him up better than

1654
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. Most teams would fire the guy they got

1655
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: to hire him to talk to their quarterbacks. I'm with you.

1656
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: I think Jamis is he's a lightning rod. I mean, yeah,

1657
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna be right. I don't think you can trust

1658
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: him to be the guy going forward. He's young, he's

1659
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: got that. But for the next five you think he's

1660
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna you know, next five years, he's gonna go through

1661
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: that again. I don't know that he's Yeah, I don't know.

1662
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I watched the Bucks a

1663
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 1: couple of times this year. Late in the year, I

1664
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: watched their game. It might have been I think it

1665
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: was the same Saturday. Yeah, it was the Saturday the

1666
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: Bills played at New England. What was that December twenty one?

1667
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: They hosted Houston. That's why I was watching it, watching

1668
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, and I'm telling you that game was

1669
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: a mess. Houston was just out of control and Jamis

1670
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: Winston was totally out of control, just coughing it up

1671
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: left and right. And at one point I kind of

1672
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: stopped watching for a minute. So what am I watching here?

1673
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: Why am I watching this game? They got Jamis Winston.

1674
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: Of course the Texans won this game. Who can who

1675
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 1: can beat Jamis Winston? When? Or who could lose to

1676
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston when he's coughing it up. We're watching on

1677
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: MSG now highlights of a Cults game at Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: Don't know what point of the area that was. And again,

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Speaker 1: it's just tossing it up for grabs. I would not

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01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: trust him with my team. I would not trust him

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01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: with my fifteen year old used car. I'll tell you

1682
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 1: it wasn't even like he was throwing it up for grabs.

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01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: He was like throwing it into windows. He was guy

1684
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: thrown it right at a defender. Yeah, and the game

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01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: you're talking about with the Houston his first attack, there's

1686
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: a pick six, and then he threw another one on

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01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: the next and the sex on the next possession, two

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01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: consecutive series, and they lost by one in the fourth quarter.

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01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: Crazy game, and it's a crazy game game, man, be mad,

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01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: mad at the NA What are you yeah doing? Can

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01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: you imagine being on the sidelines, coming to overcoming all

1692
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: of that and getting back in and losing it like

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01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: that in the game. I'm thinking, there's no way the

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01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: Bills lose to You saw how that worked out. It's

1695
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: just crazy. It was crazy. I mean, it was just

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01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: a wild, wild year. And if you're you know, if

1697
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: you're not a purist like Murph, you know, you're thinking, wow,

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01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. It's too bad our

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01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: team one, you know, our too too bad our team lost,

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01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: you know by that one. But it was a lot

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: of fun. Oh my gosh, it was agonizing. We got

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01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: a breakcare, we got more coming up. We got phone

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Speaker 1: lines open eight oh three five fifty toll free one

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01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Of the

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Speaker 1: list of all of the quarterbacks who are likely to

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01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: be available, who knows they'll be available, right, but it

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01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: could be Tom Brady, Dak Prescott right in Tannehill, Jamis Winston,

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01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, case Keenum, Matt Moore,

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01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: and many more. Shane Bortles. Which one would be the

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01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: most valuable free age of quarterback could become available this

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01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: off season? Let us see what you think. Eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free from Outside Buffalo one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. It's one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Come Out of Health from the Seneca Studio,

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Speaker 1: Seneca Resorts and Casino. Nothing comes close. Welcome back. It's

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01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Coming up at two o'clock. I'n to

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01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: talk with the writer Danny Hipitz from The Ringer. He

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01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: wrote actually the inspiration for yesterday's Twitter poll, Tom Brady,

1719
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: cam Newton and the biggest storylines of the NFL offseason.

1720
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: We'll talk with him what the move with the Philip

1721
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: Rivers means. Danny hip Fitz joining us. Coming up at

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01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: two o'clock today. We got time right here if you'd

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01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: like to ring us up. Eight o three five fifty

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01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eighty two fifty. What's on

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01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: your mind today? I'll give us a call. Let us

1726
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: know what you think um. Let's get back to the

1727
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 1: tweet Chet chiefs some interesting tweets here the tweet Cheap

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Speaker 1: Route by m Cargan Moving Systems, the official movers of

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01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Go ahead, Steve, take it away. I'm

1730
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 1: trying to let me look which ones you peaked right

1731
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: at the top of Okay, it's a new one, all right,

1732
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: Here we go. Dak Prescott isn't guaranteed to sign with Dallas,

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01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: and if they don't franchise tag him, he may become

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01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: a free agent. He's the most valuable I would take

1735
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston over Tom Brady and Breeze as well, because

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01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: of years left on his career. Remember he did throw

1737
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: for over five thousand yards. We already got into that.

1738
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: And I get it if you if Tom Brady, when

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01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: you get something, I understand possible to disagree. Yes, I

1740
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: get it too. I get their point. I get their point, Okay,

1741
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't think that's the best way

1742
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: to go right the way it's going to happen. Here's

1743
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: the thing. Dak Prescott is not going to come out

1744
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: of Dallas. But if he does, you're right, he's a

1745
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 1: valuable free agent. People will be standing in line to

1746
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 1: get him, and he'll hit a home run in free agency.

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01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: That's why I don't think the Dallas Cowboys will let

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01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: him get away. I wouldn't rather have him. I wouldn't

1749
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: rather have Jameis Winston over Tom Brady or Drew Brees,

1750
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: even though Tom Brady Drew Brees may be able to

1751
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: give you one year or two years or whatever. Jameis

1752
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: Winston's a young guy. He is. I think there's so

1753
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: many intangibles that brought Tom Brady brings to the table

1754
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,560
Speaker 1: that Jamis Winston seems to lack. I'm not saying I

1755
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 1: know the guy or whatever, but he is not a

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01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: guy that I would want to be the face of

1757
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: my franchise above those other two guys you mentioned. Dak

1758
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 1: Prescott's a great guy who has a much better leadership

1759
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: qualities than than Jamis Winston. He's on par with those

1760
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: other guys in that respect. He knows what it is

1761
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: to be the face of a big time franchise like

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01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and he's done very well at it.

1763
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: How old do you think is twenty six? And yeah

1764
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: he's not even Yeah, I think he's I couldn't tell

1765
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: you that's what makes him valuable. I think Age's experience

1766
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: at that age, and I get his point about it.

1767
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: You know, Jamis is, hey, you can really coach. Jameis

1768
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: will give you a lot of years, a lot more

1769
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: years than Tom Brady or Drew Brees. Well, yeah, but

1770
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 1: you never we're gonna get a whiff of having the

1771
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: quarterback you would for a couple of years with Drew

1772
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: Brees or Tom Brady. Now, Drew Brees is not going

1773
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: to be available to the rest of the NFL. He's

1774
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: only available to the New Orleans Saints and Tom Brady.

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01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to get out of

1776
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,799
Speaker 1: New England. But if they let him test free agency,

1777
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: some lunatic is gonna give him thirty five forty million

1778
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: bucks over the next two years or a year for

1779
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: the next two years or something like that. I think

1780
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: it'll get I'll get stupid money for Tom Brady to

1781
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 1: come out. So I'm you know, I'm that's the way

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01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: he gets out of New England. That's the only way,

1783
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 1: in my opinion. He is twenty six. It just looked

1784
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: it up and there's a good story on cbssports dot

1785
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: com about Prescott the Cowboys hope, according to NFL Network's

1786
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: Ian Rapp Report, is that the two sides, Prescott and

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01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, coming in an agreement by March tenth. It's

1788
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 1: about a week before free agency opens. The legal tampering

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01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: period starts March sixteenth. March tenth is the day the

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01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: Cowboys would have to put the franchise tag Prescott if

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01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: they haven't done so already. Teams can begin placing the

1792
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: tag on players February twenty fifth, and the last day

1793
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 1: to do it is March tenth, So that looks like

1794
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 1: the deadline to get Dak Prescott signed. I don't think

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01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: there's any question the Cowboys are going to resign him,

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01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 1: right they You know, the owner and his son have

1797
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: made it pretty clear that that's the Jerry Scott. Jerry's

1798
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: got deep pockets, and he said a time and time again,

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01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: we know this. If there's one owners willed to overpay

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01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: for something that he likes, it's Jerry Jones and I

1801
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: And let's face that Dak Prescott is he had a

1802
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: really nice statistical year this year that that Dallas Cowboys

1803
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: got to be interested or disappointed in the way he

1804
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: went and wins and losses but Dak Prescott, I mean,

1805
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: that's you know, you got him, he's in the fold.

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01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: Just pay him and move on. That's you know, you

1807
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: got to build a team around him. And if you're

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01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: an anti Cowboys person, you think, oh, go ahead overpay him. Yeah. Sure.

1809
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 1: See a championship caliber quarterback, Dak Prescott, I don't know

1810
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 1: you could win one with him. I think how good

1811
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: was Tony Romo? Statistically? He was really good. Yeah, I

1812
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: don't know. He was not a championship caliber quarterback. It's

1813
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: good good. Yeah, he's a great broadcaster and you look

1814
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: at his regular season statistics. Tony Romo was was a winner.

1815
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: But that's where stopped. That's where stopped. You know, they

1816
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: couldn't get to the next step. One more tweet term

1817
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: Sue um which most most valuable for agent quarterback? Who's

1818
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: the most valiable for agent quarterback this offseason? Brady, She

1819
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 1: says for potential ticket sales. I don't think the Saints

1820
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: would even consider letting Teddy go with Drew Brees leaving soon.

1821
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: I bet they lock him down before a free agency

1822
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think our Twitter pole,

1823
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: our pole respondents are are onto something. Teddy Bridgewater is

1824
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: the most valuable for agent quarterback probably available. I very

1825
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: smart move by our twitter pole risk. I think that's true.

1826
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: He's a guy that has shown potential and he's still

1827
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: in the young body and it's got a lot of

1828
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: years ahead of him. He was a high draft pick.

1829
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: Remember when he came out with Minnesota and then had

1830
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 1: that knee injury that set him back for gosh, it's

1831
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: like two and a half three years. I mean two.

1832
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean it was such a it was a weird

1833
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: non contact event that happened in practice, right, and it

1834
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: looked like it was really bad. And he's fine. He's

1835
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: fought himself back into they won some games for the

1836
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: Saint back into the game and won some games this

1837
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: year for the Saints as a starting quarterback when Drew

1838
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 1: Brees went down with thumbs a thumb injury. Hey, we're

1839
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna take the break for the top of the hour

1840
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: or the two o'clock break when we return, We'll have

1841
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 1: writer Danny hipetime from The Ringer dot com. He's the

1842
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 1: staff writer for The Ringer at co host of the

1843
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: Dandasy football podcast Get It. He wrote a pretty good

1844
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 1: piece Tom Brady, cam Newton and the biggest storylines of

1845
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen twenty twenty NFL offseason. That's when we

1846
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: come back. Come on back with us. One Bill's Live,

1847
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Hell from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park.

1848
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Bills Radio Network Sports YEP

1849
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: Day comes from One Bill's Drive. We're still talking about

1850
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and the news twenty four, twenty five hours

1851
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: ago that Rivers is going to enter free agency. Is

1852
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: sixteen year run with the Chargers is over. He jointly

1853
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,719
Speaker 1: announced with the Chargers his decision yesterday with general manager

1854
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Tom Talsco. Says there's enough time for everyone to put

1855
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: themselves in the best position for success in the twenty

1856
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: twenty season. Philip Rivers thirty eight years old, most prolific

1857
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: passer in Charges history. He moved his family from San

1858
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: Diego to Florida last month, signaling his time with the

1859
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 1: franchise was probably approaching an end. He's an eight time

1860
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: Pro bowler twenty interceptions. This past season, Los Angeles struggled

1861
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: to a five win season. Philip Rivers headed towards free agency,

1862
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,719
Speaker 1: which is just about five weeks away. Taysom Hill, looking

1863
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 1: for some love from his team, the New Orleans Saints.

1864
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: He's a restricted free agent. He was a revelation this

1865
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: past year playing quarterback, running back, receiver in tight end

1866
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: in the Saints offense. He recently told the Associated Press

1867
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: he views himself as a franchise quarterback. We'll see about that.

1868
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett met with the NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell at

1869
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: the league office in New York City yesterday. Garrett suspended

1870
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: in November after using his helmet to strike the bare

1871
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: head of Mason Rudolph, quarterback for the Steelers, and at

1872
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Week ten brawl between the Steelers and the Cleveland Browns.

1873
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 1: He got a penalty of spension indefinitely and he was

1874
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: fine for the incident open to get that suspension ended.

1875
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: Now coming back for another season, Minnesota Vikings hired the

1876
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: longtime coaching coordinator Dom Capers to be a senior defensive

1877
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: assistant yesterday to a Tego. Violola is maintaining speed on

1878
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 1: his track towards the NFL. The Alabama Quarterbacks three month

1879
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: scan on his fractured hip was as positive as possible,

1880
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: according to report Savers Hockey tonight, for the second time

1881
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 1: in five days, the Savers hosted a trade Red Wings

1882
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: at key Bank Center seven o'clock face off tonight. Savers

1883
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: ten two and three against the Red Wings since the

1884
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,759
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen season and the Edmonton Niles Center. Connor McDavid

1885
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: will was two to three weeks with a left quad injury.

1886
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Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bills Tribe. John Murphy's teeve

1887
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,719
Speaker 1: tasker and on the Line of Us right now host

1888
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: for the podcast. He's a staff writer for The Ringer.

1889
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: Contributed to The Ringer NFL podcast. Wrote a really good

1890
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: piece the other day on The Ringer, Tom Brady, Cam

1891
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,919
Speaker 1: Newton and the biggest story lines of the NFL offseason.

1892
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Happy to have Danny hit Fitz on the line, Danny,

1893
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: John Murphy's deep tasker in Buffalo, Thanks for coming on.

1894
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. I hope you guys are doing fantasts

1895
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Like how you guys doing. We're doing well good. Your

1896
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: story yesterday inspired us. We got a whole day out

1897
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 1: of that, the biggest storylines of the season, and then

1898
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: right in the middle of it, the Chargers parted ways

1899
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers. That's a big story, isn't it. Yeah.

1900
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's shocking because what's unbelievable is that Philip

1901
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Rivers is pretty close to passing Dan Marino on a

1902
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: bunch of all time leader boards. I mean, I think

1903
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: he's twenty three touchdowns from Dan Marino all time. He

1904
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: had twenty three touchdowns last year. He's like two thousand

1905
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: passing yards are passing Dan Marinos. So if Rivers does

1906
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,560
Speaker 1: play somewhere, he's probably going to be top six and

1907
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: passing yards top five and passing touchdowns. So that's kind

1908
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: of staggering to think about where's where's the most likely

1909
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: landing spot for him. I think it's I think it's

1910
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: on hold. I think he's I think retirements probably most

1911
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: likely spot. But I think they've got a pretty clear

1912
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: hierarchy of the people who of the older quarterbacks, right.

1913
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: I think Tom Brady's all but said that he's not

1914
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: going to retire. Drew Brees is probably going to come back,

1915
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 1: but no one knows for one hundred percent sure, but

1916
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 1: it seems pretty likely he comes back. Rivers seems truly

1917
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: fifty fifty. And then it seems really unlikely that he

1918
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: led Manning plays somewhere. But if Rivers has to go somewhere,

1919
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, people kind of connect the dots to Tampa

1920
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 1: Bay because he moved to Florida and theoretics would want

1921
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: to stay there. But I actually think Rivers and Tom

1922
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Brady are in a similar boat. No one knows what

1923
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: they want, no one knows what they're gonna do, no

1924
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 1: one has any idea. Honestly, it's the people who have

1925
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 1: actual information has been very tight lipped, and we've just

1926
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: resorted to speculating. You've got a lot of people saying

1927
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady to the Chargers because I have no idea why.

1928
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,759
Speaker 1: But I think it's really important, like you, but truly important,

1929
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 1: and I would implore everyone to separate the reports suggesting

1930
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: a team is interested in a player from a player

1931
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 1: who's interested in a team, because when it's free agency,

1932
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters if the Chargers are

1933
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 1: interested in Tom Brady. What matters is if Tom Brees

1934
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: interested in Chargers. We don't know what Hip Rivers wants

1935
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 1: and we don't know what Tom Brady wants. With Danny

1936
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: high Fitz, Ringers staff writer and as I said, Danny,

1937
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: your post on the Ringer propped at our Our Twitter

1938
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: polled yesterday and the number one option was that Tom

1939
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Brady's future. Most Buffalo fans say that's going to be

1940
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: the number one story the offseason. Brady's future is fascinating.

1941
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,560
Speaker 1: He's never been in this situation before, has he? No,

1942
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: absolutely not. You know, you've been doing this for twenty years,

1943
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 1: and I guess this is the first time for everything, right,

1944
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 1: So he's a free agent. I think it's more interesting

1945
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: but why he wanted this. He really carved out his contract,

1946
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 1: you know. I think people kind of are aware that

1947
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 1: he's had a unique contract structure with the Patriots for years.

1948
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: He hasn't always taken up as much money as he

1949
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: could have earned. I think it's worth noting that actually

1950
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: that kind of helps him too, because if he doesn't

1951
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: necessarily care about money, he cares probably more about playing

1952
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: for forty five and he cares about money, and the

1953
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 1: cheaper you are, the easier it is for the Patriots

1954
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: to keep you. I think that's an underrated part of

1955
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 1: him taking less money. But it's interesting that he cat

1956
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 1: like he has actually had a clause in his conch

1957
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 1: that he could not be franchise tagged, which is very rare.

1958
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: It's basically one of the first or second clauses to

1959
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: exist in this version of the CBA. So it's interesting

1960
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: he really wanted this, So I think the question is

1961
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 1: does he want to leave or does he want to

1962
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: kind of just send the Patriots a message He's like, no,

1963
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 1: you got to get someone better than Matt Lacosse at

1964
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: tight end or I might you know, I might walk.

1965
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 1: I find it interesting too, Danny that the Patriots Bob

1966
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: Kraft says he wants he wants Brady to see what's

1967
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: out there. That's unusual too, They've never been in that position.

1968
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: New England is not. Yeah, I mean, who doesn't want

1969
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady like like at some point. Actually, it's funny

1970
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: because this one actually transcends the football. In my mind,

1971
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 1: it's not about football, it's it's it's about a brand.

1972
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, these teams are businesses.

1973
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: And who doesn't want Tom Brady to be on your team?

1974
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: Who doesn't want to sell Tom Brady jerseys, Who doesn't

1975
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 1: want to be the team that gives Tom Brady a

1976
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: second chance? And for Bob Kraft, Quite frankly, it's difficult

1977
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: to convince me that the Patriots twenty twenty season is

1978
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 1: more important than Tom Brady's long standing relationship with the

1979
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: Patriots franchise. It's you know, it is important whether you know,

1980
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 1: Brent Favor retires on good terms with the Packers, if

1981
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: if Michael Jordan retires on good terms with the Bulls

1982
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: or not, because it just matters to the wider fan

1983
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 1: base to feel that that relationship isn't in an awkward place.

1984
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: And that was you know, I saw you guys have

1985
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: a mixed relationship with the Patriots, but it's fascinating look

1986
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: at the fan base and kind of how they feel

1987
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: about it. Well, it also comes down to the fact

1988
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 1: that what would New England do without Brady? I mean,

1989
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 1: what choices do they have? I mean, obviously they could

1990
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: reach out and talk to Philip Rivers and say, listen,

1991
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: can you give us one more year to give us

1992
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: a chance to transition into one of these draft picks

1993
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 1: or whatever. But certainly there's a lot of guys out

1994
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: there who would be intrigued by getting a chance to

1995
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,680
Speaker 1: look behind that curtain and find out what it's like

1996
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback for Bill Belichick. You know,

1997
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that one, but that you know,

1998
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 1: my first knee jerk reaction was, why would they want

1999
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 1: another old guy. But it's interesting that maybe they would

2000
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 1: want someone who's experienced and wouldn't have to pick up

2001
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: all the nuances is of an offense that they didn't

2002
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 1: have to teach a younger quarterback. But I think the

2003
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 1: interesting you know, what are they going to do without um?

2004
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: I think that's actually what this is all about, right

2005
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: because I think ironically the Gronkowski situation last year has

2006
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 1: really informed this. That's a that's a Buffalo area guy,

2007
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 1: right sure, Yeah, from Tredonia, Une, right down the road.

2008
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so shout out Fredonia. Uh so. But the

2009
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 1: Gronkowsky situation was fascinating because it's one of the few

2010
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: examples where the Patriots, you know, we go one day

2011
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: at a time mentality, which has gotten them to unprescedented heights,

2012
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 1: really kind of burned them because they didn't think gronk

2013
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: was going to retire unless he told them so. He

2014
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 1: told them what ten days or so after free agency

2015
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 1: began last year, that he was retiring, and it really

2016
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: messed them up because their targets and free agency, like

2017
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: Jared Cook had already signed the Saints and they were

2018
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: left with Ben Watson and Matt Lacross at tight end

2019
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 1: hadn't really improved the receivers too much, and they were

2020
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: they were, you know, they were really left out to

2021
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: drive by Gronks timing. So they're looking at this as, look,

2022
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: we need to know by when we go into free

2023
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 1: agency are we getting a quarter? Like are you going

2024
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: to play first or not? Dude? They can't find out

2025
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 1: two weeks. They can't find out on Wednesday a free

2026
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: agency that he's signing somewhere else. And then they already

2027
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 1: missed Teddy Bridgewater. They missed a trade window for Cam Newton.

2028
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:12,560
Speaker 1: So I think the Patriots are like, whatever you do,

2029
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: whatever we want. Bob Crafts like, we want to keep you.

2030
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 1: But the whole organization is like, but if you are

2031
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: going to go, you've got to let us know. Yeah,

2032
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: and let's not forget. And we've we've had to remind

2033
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: ourselves of this time and time again. Yeah, things look

2034
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: like they were coming apart in New England. It was

2035
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: so such a bad season there, you know, all that's

2036
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: how was they won twelve games. There's got to be

2037
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: a sense, at least for the fan base in New

2038
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 1: England that they could line Teddy Bridgewater up and win.

2039
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: They could line Philip Rivers up and they could win there.

2040
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 1: They could line a lot of guys up at quarterback

2041
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: and win. Now, certainly everybody would love to see Tom

2042
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 1: Brady walk off in a fairy tale ending and win

2043
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: another Super Bowl and walk off into the sunset. But

2044
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 1: that being said, there's got to be a strong sense

2045
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: in New England for their fan base and if not

2046
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: inside that building, that you know we can win without

2047
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I don't know if there's a strong sense

2048
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: in the fan I think I think the fans are

2049
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 1: really split on it. I think some of the fans

2050
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: do feel that the Bill Belichick train can keep rolling

2051
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: and quite have you guys seem to show the office. Yeah,

2052
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 1: there's a wonderful quote from the scene that toward the

2053
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 1: end of it, where dear old Andy Bernard says, I

2054
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: wish someone told you you were living in the good

2055
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: old days while you were in the good old days.

2056
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: I think that most of the Patriots fans understand that

2057
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 1: they are in the good old days and that this

2058
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: is all gravy and as upsetting as it would be

2059
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 1: for Brady to leave, I don't think that they're looking

2060
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 1: at the next post Brady eras Oh yeah, we're gonna

2061
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: get six more rings. I think they look at it

2062
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 1: as they're just trying to enjoy this as long as

2063
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: it lasts, and they're keenly aware that they're teetering on

2064
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: the edge of their good old days. We're talking with

2065
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 1: Danny Hifitz, who has got a post down The Ringer.

2066
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 1: He's the Ringer, NFL staff writer, about the biggest storylines

2067
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: of the offseason, moving away from Tom Brady, Danny to

2068
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:59,799
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Look and the Cowboys apparently have said they

2069
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 1: need to know his intentions by March tenth so they

2070
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 1: can get him on to the franchise tag if they

2071
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: need to. But either way, they're eventually going to wind

2072
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: up paying him a record setting him mouth right, Dak Prescott,

2073
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't you think? Oh yeah, so? I mean the backgroup

2074
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: here is fascinated to me. So the Cowboys are the

2075
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: most valuable sports franchise in the world, more than the Yankees,

2076
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 1: more than any other NFL team, more than FC Barcelona

2077
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 1: or Real Madrid. They're the most valuable sports team in

2078
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: the world. They're worth roughly five billion dollars and they're

2079
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: probably would sell for more than that. And Jerry would

2080
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: never sell, but they had the quarterback for the most

2081
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: valuable sports franchise in the world. Dak Prescott was for

2082
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 1: many years the single most underpaid person in the NFL

2083
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 1: because he was making about seven hundred thousand dollars to

2084
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 1: pilot this five billion dollars organization. And now they actually

2085
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: have flipped this where his agents of CIA have played

2086
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 1: this very well, where he probably has the most leveraged

2087
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: now of anyone in the NFL. Because the Joneses don't

2088
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 1: really run then the Cowboys like a traditional organization. Jerry

2089
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: has come out and set on his her show multiple times,

2090
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 1: we're going to extend Dak Prescott. His son Stephen, who

2091
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 1: has taken on I think more responsibility than people know,

2092
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: has also said We're I think I'm not verbatim but paraphrasing,

2093
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: really really really really into Dak Prescott and going to

2094
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: resign him so years. That calms the fan base, but

2095
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 1: it also makes it emboldens Dak Prescott, and he has

2096
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: basically done what a lot of players don't do, which

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01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: is you take the risk of playing out a contract year.

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01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: He's on the customer free agency, and so the Cowboys

2099
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: don't want to let him keep doing it because, without

2100
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: going into a bunch of math, every year that Dak

2101
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Prescott puts off this contract, the contract will be worth

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01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: more money. Basically the floor of the negotiations, because that's

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01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 1: what happens, right The team comes in with the floor,

2104
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: the player comes into the ceiling, and they meet in

2105
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,680
Speaker 1: the middle. Basically, every year Dak Prescott punts his can

2106
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: down the road, the floor goes up. And there's a

2107
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: lot of money reasons that go into that, but it's

2108
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: basically just math because the NFL is making more money

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01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: every year and the salary cap is just a percentage

2110
01:44:56,240 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 1: of the guetew So dactors played his guards really well.

2111
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: When he has enough endorsement money from all those Campbell

2112
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: Soup ads with his brothers serving them up Campbell Soup,

2113
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: that he's like, you know, I, you know what if

2114
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: something does happen to me, I got enough, but I

2115
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: want to be paid with him worth. So he's got

2116
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in a really interesting position. I don't think

2117
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 1: the most guided the sports franchise in the world is

2118
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: used to being on the short end of the bargaining table.

2119
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 1: But that's really what this self imposed deadline is, right right,

2120
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. It's all self imposing it all and

2121
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 1: it does come down to you. Not so much in

2122
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys at Dak Prescott relationship, but the New

2123
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 1: England Tom Brady relationship, it's really accentuated. It's about personal

2124
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 1: wishes and what these guys really want to do and

2125
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: how they want to be remembered and when they want

2126
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: And like for Dak Prescott, he can decide when he

2127
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: wants to cash in, either it now or kick it

2128
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 1: down the road and say I'll do it in two

2129
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 1: or three years. But that's really what it comes down to,

2130
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 1: is their personal their personal preferences about how this is

2131
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 1: going to go down in all of these franchises, Oh exactly.

2132
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 1: And I think that's the Cowboys sell that better than

2133
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:01,719
Speaker 1: most people. I don't think people give the Cowboys credit

2134
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: for how they pitch. They're kind of like Duke to

2135
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: basketball and how Coach k recruits. You're part of a

2136
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: brotherhood here the Cowboys. The Cowboys basically pitched. You know,

2137
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 1: they have this mega complex like Star Wars depth Star

2138
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 1: like building in Frisco, Texas, and they you know, they

2139
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: have this Matt and the business connections from the Dallas

2140
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 1: community in Texas community and former cowboys, and they're like,

2141
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: you can be part of a network. You know, it's

2142
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,839
Speaker 1: not an accident at Trokeman and Tony Romo, Jason Witten

2143
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: are the people they try to try to put on TV.

2144
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 1: You know, the business contacts post football. It's like do

2145
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: you want to be a cowboy or do you want

2146
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: to be another linebacker? And so that's how they really

2147
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 1: have gotten a lot of unique contracts. You know, Tyron

2148
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 1: Smith sign for an eight year deal, you know, and

2149
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: he's still under contract. Jalen Smith signs for six years.

2150
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,720
Speaker 1: They're a great linebacker. Zeke Elliot's sound like a seven

2151
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 1: year contract? Really an eight year contract, like that's really unusual.

2152
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 1: But it's because the Joneses are pitching them on being

2153
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: a cowboy for life. The difference is that Dak, you know,

2154
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: they can go into last year being like, well, you

2155
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,599
Speaker 1: know is Zeke Elliott, you know you're in top Mexico.

2156
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna have this, you know, Tony Pollard, young running back,

2157
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 1: Beer running back, and we'll see what happens. Is Zeke,

2158
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 1: it can't pretend that anyone but Dad is piloting in

2159
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 1: the ship this year. It's only going to be Dad.

2160
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 1: So it's a totally different position than they've been in.

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01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: And they also have to deal with Mark Cooper and

2162
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: Byron Jones and other people that they'd like to use

2163
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: the tag on. But the way I would, you know,

2164
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff can get so complicated, right with

2165
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 1: the franchise tag and the numbers. I would put it

2166
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 1: this way. If you're putting a self imposed deadline in yourself,

2167
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 1: that's not good. But I don't care if it's like

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01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: you're a're gonna lose ten pounds by this date or

2169
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a New Year's resolution. Self imposed deadlines

2170
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: are hard to meet. And if the Cowboys are putting

2171
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 1: it on themselves, they're not in a great spot. Danny

2172
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 1: as Hope. When the Bills put an end of that

2173
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: cowboy mystique Bologny Beck last Thanksgiving, I guess not. I'm

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01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 1: just kidding. I think you put a put a real

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01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: den in it. Yeah, I agree. Hey, let I ask

2176
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 1: you about the guy who could make all of these

2177
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 1: numbers look silly. Pedrick Mahomes, who doesn't need a contract

2178
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 1: in this offseason but may wind up getting a contract

2179
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: this offseason. The interesting thing, and you point out. There

2180
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: are no comparables, right for Patrick Mahomes, there's no precedent

2181
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 1: for Patrick Mahomes. His numbers could be off the charts. Yeah,

2182
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: I think this is fascinating. I actually disagree with some

2183
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 1: of my colleagues here at the Ringer, but it's I

2184
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: think what's really exciting is that it's you know, it's

2185
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 1: a truly paradigm shifting situation if Mahomes wants it to be.

2186
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: And I think that that's always the thing to remembers,

2187
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, is what

2188
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: does the player want? I think that what Patrick Mahomes

2189
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: wants here is fascinating because, while we don't know it,

2190
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 1: if he wanted certain things, I think that there are

2191
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: things on the table that he could ask for that

2192
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 1: quite frankly, no other player has had the means to

2193
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: ask for, So that could be you know, two hundred

2194
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 1: you know that's floated two hundred million dollars contract. The

2195
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,719
Speaker 1: total money a deal means absolutely nothing, right. What matters

2196
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: for most players is guaranteed money, but for quarterback just

2197
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: the salary, the annual salary, because quarbacks aren't going to

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01:48:56,080 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: get cuught, right. But Patrick Mahomes, you know, does he

2199
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 1: want forty million dollars a year? Does he want a

2200
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 1: short deal? Does he want three years? Does he not

2201
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: only want to be the highest paid player in the league,

2202
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: Does he not only want to be the highest PID

2203
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 1: player in the league by a lot? But does he

2204
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: want to be the highest PID player in the league

2205
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 1: buy a lot? And also only want to deal the

2206
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 1: last three years because three years from now he could

2207
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: renegotiate because right now the salary caps is going to

2208
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: be about two hundred million dollars this year, and three

2209
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 1: years that could be two hundred twenty million, and three

2210
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:27,560
Speaker 1: or four years that could be like two hundred and

2211
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 1: forty million dollars at a feeling, depending on how these

2212
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 1: CBA negotiations would go, which is a whole other thing.

2213
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 1: But he might be like, you know, I'm going to

2214
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 1: renegotiate right now because three years from now, I bet

2215
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 1: I can do fifty million dollars a year. And maybe

2216
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 1: he throws in a clause that says I don't want

2217
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: to be franchise tagged either. Now the chiefs would say, well,

2218
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, only Tom Brady and Drew Brees have gotten that,

2219
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 1: and they're you know, fifteen years your senior and Patrick

2220
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 1: Mahomes can respond with a sentence that no other player

2221
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 1: has ever been able to say at a contract table,

2222
01:49:56,520 --> 01:50:00,759
Speaker 1: which is, I have won the eight Associated Press Regular

2223
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Season MVP Award and won a super Bowl before I

2224
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: turned twenty five, and I won the Super Bowl MVP two.

2225
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: No one's ever been able to say that. And his

2226
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 1: agent is the guy that was Jerry McGuire was based on.

2227
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna come up. Yeah, his agent,

2228
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 1: Lee Steinberg, can I just say this, And you guys

2229
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: may disagree. I am happy to see Lee Steinberg. This

2230
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes deal is gonna get him back into the mix

2231
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: as as one of the all time agents. Do you agree?

2232
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean he had a rough spot there, a rough

2233
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: patch for a couple of years. I think that this

2234
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 1: Mahomes contract will be fascinating because I mean, he wants

2235
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,599
Speaker 1: to be a chief and a super Bowl win has

2236
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: a way of you know, negotiations can be cold. I

2237
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 1: think the Super Bowl win is really warms it up

2238
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 1: for both sides. I think there's it's gonna be much more.

2239
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,640
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot more feeling and emotion and

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01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 1: compassion in this one than there would be otherwise quite

2241
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 1: literally any other situation that played out. But he won

2242
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 1: the MVP of the Super Bowl, and neither of them

2243
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 1: wanted him to go anywhere. I think it's a question

2244
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: of what does he want? And sometimes it's a lot

2245
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 1: of money. Some people have security, you know. As funny

2246
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: as it is, it's not that different than anybody else

2247
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: at any other job where if they came to be

2248
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: like what do you really want? People value different things,

2249
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 1: And I don't want to as much as he's a

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01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 1: great a great person, I don't want to pretend to

2251
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 1: have any idea what he truly wants in his heart

2252
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: of hearts. I think it'll be more interesting to look

2253
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,600
Speaker 1: at the Deally signs and then reverse engineer what he

2254
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: wanted at the table, right. I agree. And here's another

2255
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 1: one that you said that you know, there's never going

2256
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 1: to be a place where there's such good feeling on

2257
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: both sides after your guy wins the NFL Super Bowl MVP.

2258
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: There is a team out there, though, that has a

2259
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: couple of free agents that they really like and who

2260
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 1: have really exceeded expectations. They really have a good feeling

2261
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: about their organization going forward, or really put together a

2262
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 1: good run. That's the Tennessee Titans and this year's AFC

2263
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Championship Game. They exceeded all their expectations. They kind of

2264
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 1: caught lightning in a bottle with Ryan Tannehill and the

2265
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 1: passing game, but really relied on Derrick Henry. Both those players,

2266
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and Ryan Tannehill are represented by the same

2267
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 1: people and they're both free agents for the Tennessee Titans.

2268
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 1: Has a lot of good feelings on both sides and

2269
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,560
Speaker 1: the Titans about them and for those guys about what

2270
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: the Titans have done for them. But I don't get

2271
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: the feeling this is going to end up great for

2272
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 1: all three of those parties. That's so interesting. You mentioned

2273
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: that with the Derrick Henry and Tannhill having the same agents.

2274
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 1: It's not to switch sports on you, but I'm not

2275
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: switching regions. The Toronto Raptors in the NBA actually had

2276
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: a similar situation a few years ago where I might

2277
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:28,599
Speaker 1: be getting the players own, but I believe like their

2278
01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 1: point guard Carl Lowry and then Sergebaka and Demarda Rosen,

2279
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 1: I want to say three of them had the same

2280
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 1: agent and they were all up for contract, and obviously

2281
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 1: in the basketball team that's you know, three people out

2282
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 1: of five starters is a big deal, but it's not

2283
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 1: that different than having a quarterback and a running back

2284
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,719
Speaker 1: both being up for free agency and both having to negotiate.

2285
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about two really important players really

2286
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: the Titans identity, right that's Tannehill and Derrick Henry right now.

2287
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 1: They you know, Derrick Henrys, the Titans had made the

2288
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, probably would have been the lead person over Tannehill,

2289
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 1: and Tannehill obviously completely change that organization. I mean, when

2290
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 1: you can just look at the numbers, I gotta say

2291
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 1: that the splits of when Tannehill took over in Week

2292
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 1: seven forward might be the most staggering splits I can

2293
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: remember a football team having that ever, because I mean,

2294
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about a team that basically joined the Ravens

2295
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 1: in the efficiency stat in every yards per playing, like

2296
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: yards per rush points scored. They were top two or

2297
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: three in every conceivable number that is important or like

2298
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 1: actually predicted success on the field. The Titans were right

2299
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 1: there with the Ravens and the Cowboys in the in

2300
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 1: the niners with everything, and it's absolutely in the Chiefs,

2301
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 1: and it's unbelievable to think how much they change their

2302
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Arthur Smith is unfantastic with that team, so

2303
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: they have to keep Tannehill. I think that that and

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01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 1: they're going to franchise Backham. I think the question is

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01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 1: what they do with Thereck Henry, which is that's fascinating

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01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 1: because running backs are in such flux right now. Last

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01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 1: question I am for you as we approciate here, Danny,

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01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 1: what about Cam Newton? How interested will the Carolina Panthers

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01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 1: being keeping Cam Newton around? That's the question, right. I

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01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: think that this is a situation where, like the Tom

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01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 1: Brady part, we have to remember how much we don't know.

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01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 1: We don't know how he healthy Cam is, which is

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01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: the number one most important thing in the world in

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01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: this situation, and we don't know what the owner, David Tepper,

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01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: and we don't know what the coach Matt Rule thinks

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01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:27,600
Speaker 1: like to think about his health situation. I know that

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01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 1: that's not great radio content and not great offseason content,

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01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 1: but it's the truth, right, It's like we don't know.

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01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 1: So I think that this is a situation where it's

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01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 1: more important too once it happens. Looking back at Oh,

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01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 1: that's why this played out. This way. I My gut

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01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 1: instinct here is I don't really understand why everyone's just

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01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: assuming he's gonna leave. I'm confused because the line is

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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: out there is that if they cut him or trade him,

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01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: they'll save nineteen million dollars in cap space. Nineteen million

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01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: dollars sounds like a lot of money, and it is

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01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money, but it's not a lot of

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01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 1: money to an NFL team. The salary captain here's two

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01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. So they're talking about bringing up like

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01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: nine or ten percent of or tap for Cam Newton. Well,

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01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 1: geez man, Jared Goff's going to cost the Rams thirty

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01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 1: six million dollars this year, So, like you know, that's

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01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about giving sixteen percent of your cap to

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01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. So if Cam new was healthy, that's a

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01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 1: no brainer, right, No offense to Jared Goff. But a

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01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 1: healthy Cam Newton is much better than a healthy Jared Goff.

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01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: So I would look at it backwards. If they get

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01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: rid of If they get rid of Cam Newton, I

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01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: am more concerned about his health, and if they keep

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01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, I'm more optimistic about his health. Does that

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01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 1: make sense? It does make sense, Yeah, they're not. Your

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01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 1: your point is they're not going to let him go

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01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 1: if he's completely healthy. Yeah. I think that whether they

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01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 1: keep him or not is a referendum on his health,

2345
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 1: a referendum between two people, Matt Rule and David Tepper. Yeah.

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01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think Matt Rule will have

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01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 1: final saying whether he wants that guy or not that

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01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 1: the guy that is Matt Rule gonna Do we know

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01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: what Matt Rule wants in a quarterback? Do we know

2350
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 1: if if Matt Rule is a Cam Newton guy is there?

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01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 1: That is there kind of that fly in the ointment? How?

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01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: How what kind of offense or a leader is Matt

2353
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: Rule going to look for in his quarterback? Does he

2354
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 1: think Cam Newton is that guy? Yeah, Matt Rule is

2355
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 1: definitely one. There's you know, there's the same with coaches.

2356
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's about it's about players, not plays. And

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01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 1: he's definitely more of a leader, not a schemer. He's

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01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 1: he's kind of a football agnostic when it comes to

2359
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 1: the scheme he wants to run. He kind of adopted

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01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: this like spread passing offense because he was in the

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01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 1: Big twelve and you have to do it in the

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01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 1: Big twelve. But he was a pretty smash mouth guy.

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01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 1: He definitely prefers to run the ball. I think that

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01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 1: he's I mean, the reason he got hired is because

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01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: he just wants to do what works. He's not really

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01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 1: bringing a scheme. He just wants to do whatever works.

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01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 1: And I think Cam Newton is obviously the most talented

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01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: player he would have ever dealt with. If he's healthy,

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01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's about whether he wants to

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01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 1: bring Cam Newton in. I think that it's probably a

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01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: lot of internal things in the organization and we don't

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01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 1: know what's going on to Cam, as anyone in their workplace.

2373
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 1: You know, ninety nine percent of it's below the surface,

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01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 1: no matter how much we think we know. And I

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01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 1: think that if Cam were healthy, if they were bullish

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01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 1: on Cam being healthy going forward, I think they'd be

2377
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 1: happy to keep them. But they might also be saying, look,

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01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Matt will sign a seven year contract. It's a long

2379
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 1: time in the NFL. They gave him a lot of them.

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01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 1: They gave him eight and a half million dollars a year,

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01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: so I want to say that's a long term projection.

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01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 1: So Cam Newton, I believe it's turning thirty one for

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01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 1: this season. I wouldn't be shocked if they're looking long

2384
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: term and they don't know how Cam Newton fits into

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01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 1: long term saying, especially with his health issues. So I

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01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 1: think that this could be a separation, could be better

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01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: for the Panthers, and it could be good for Cam Newton.

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01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton on the Chicago Bears would be unbelievable. Hey, Danny,

2389
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 1: it's fascinating stuff. It's a great post in The Ringer.

2390
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Thank you coming on with us today to talk about it.

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01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you so much for having you.

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01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thanks Danny. Danny hi Fitz, staff

2393
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 1: writer for The Ringer, co host of the Dantasy Football podcast,

2394
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 1: can tributor to The Ringer NFL podcast. His posts that

2395
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: went up when was it just recently? Tom Brady, Cam

2396
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 1: Newton and the biggest storylines of the NFL offseason that

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01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 1: went up last week went up last Thursday. It's really good.

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01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 1: It got us thinking about it. We reached out to them,

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01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 1: We based a Twitter poll on it yesterday and as

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01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 1: they said, right in the middle of it, Philip Philip

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01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 1: Rivers and the Chargers made that move. It's a it's

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01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: a really. Look, it's quiet here in Buffalo, we get that,

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01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: but around the NFL, this is going to be a

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01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: fascinating off season with quarterbacks moving left and right. It's

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01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 1: stays fascinating when players like Philip Rivers become available, when

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01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: players like Tom Brady sell their houses in the team

2407
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 1: they've been playing for for sixteen or twenty years, when

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01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 1: these guys start, when Pat Mahomes is up, when Dak

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01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 1: Prescott is up, and those numb and their contracts are

2410
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: going to effect what these other players signed for one,

2411
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 1: it's the ripple effect and how small the league has

2412
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 1: become in this day and age of technology and being

2413
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 1: able to keep track of everything at the moment. Noticed, man,

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01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:03,879
Speaker 1: all this stuff intertwines a little bit for these clubs.

2415
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: And we heard it from Hartwick, who Nick Hartwick, who

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01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 1: the former center for this for the Chargers and for

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01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. He said, listen, this is you're talking about it,

2418
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 1: and think about it. You got an owner in LA

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01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 1: for the San Diego Chargers who doesn't have as really

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01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: as deep a pockets as Jerry Jones does or Robert

2421
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 1: Kraft does. And that starts to play into the support

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01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 1: system for these players and they're gonna start cherry picking opportunities,

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01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 1: and when you got guys of their caliber available, it

2424
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 1: will play into it. Yeah, and it will affect the numbers. Yeah,

2425
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 1: it's really fascinating to keep track of it like this.

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01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 1: We got more time to talk about it. I'd love

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01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 1: to hear from you. The phone lines open eight O

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Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty or Twitter poll who's the most

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01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 1: valuable free agent quarterback likely to be available this offseason?

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01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Will revisit that, see how that boating is going plus

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Speaker 1: NFL true and false. When we return One Bills Live

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02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 1: presented by a Lot of Health from the Seneca Studio

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02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:23,360
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker. We got about

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02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 1: twenty four minutes ago. That's all Steve. We'd spent a

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02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:28,320
Speaker 1: long time with our last guest, Danny. He was good,

2438
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 1: He was good, was good. We'll have him back on

2439
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacks. A lot of quarterback movement. We want

2440
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 1: to know from you. What's our Twitter poll? Who is

2441
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 1: the most valuable free agent quarterback likely to be available

2442
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 1: to this offseason? Not to the Bills. Bills are set, right,

2443
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: can we agree on that? Somebody called up earlier and

2444
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 1: said the Bills shouldn't take it. No, they shouldn't. They're

2445
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 1: good with Josh who is the most valuable free agent? Quote? Right?

2446
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's And then you had the

2447
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 1: audacity to say, well, I get it, And I'm thinking,

2448
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 1: what do you get I didn't say I get it.

2449
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 1: I said I stand that the quarterback needs to play better,

2450
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 1: but they're not and needs to upgrade his game. They're

2451
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,800
Speaker 1: not going to upgrade the guy. So that's when you

2452
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:10,160
Speaker 1: tell people you get it. You encourage them to say

2453
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 1: things that are off the mark like that, Well, yeah,

2454
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just see I'm like you, I'm trying to

2455
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:20,120
Speaker 1: be nice. Let me sem nice. I am nice. You

2456
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 1: don't think I'm nice. I'm very nice. I just don't

2457
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 1: suffer fools. Yeah, labeling people is not nice. Let our

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02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 1: twitter pool who's the most valuable free agent quarterback likely

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02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 1: to be available this offseason? What do you think? Got

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02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty votes in so far. Most of

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02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:39,880
Speaker 1: the votes forty three percent say it's Teddy Bridgewater. Now

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02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:42,240
Speaker 1: he may or may not be available. That Saints may

2463
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 1: agree to lock him, may decide to lock him up.

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02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:46,760
Speaker 1: But if he's out there, forty three percent of our

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02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 1: voters say he'd be the most valuable. Thirty three percent

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02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:52,120
Speaker 1: say Tom Brady. Maybe you've heard of him, the future

2467
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Tom Brady, who is headed towards free agency.

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02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 1: Maybe the Patriots don't let him lose. Fourteen or yeah,

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02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 1: fourteen percent say Philip Rivers, who is parting ways with

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02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers just announced yesterday. Ten percent say somebody else

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02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 1: in mine. And there are a number of other quarterbacks

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02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 1: that could factor into this. Give us a call to

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02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 1: discuss eight oh three five fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty got wide open

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Speaker 1: phone lines. We got to read a few more tweets

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Speaker 1: on this. The tweet sheet brought to by Caring and

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems from Eric in France. He starts his tweet

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Speaker 1: this way, bonjeour. Would it be a logical move for

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02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots to move up the draft get a quarterback

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02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:34,680
Speaker 1: with Brady nursing him for two seasons, Brady keeps his

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02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:37,960
Speaker 1: baby around, and Brady gets left. Huh Craft keeps his Craft,

2482
02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 1: keeps his baby around and Brady gets a nice way

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02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 1: out while thanking the organization for the trust they put

2484
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 1: in him. That's a problem because you don't say anything

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02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 1: about the money Craft's baby would be making. Well the

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02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 1: rookie who's Craft's baby by by Oh okay, all right, Yeah,

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02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 1: I think Brady wants some decent money here, good money,

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02:02:58,360 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 1: really good money. Brad tweets the U in Bridgewater he

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02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:05,280
Speaker 1: thinks is the most valuable fridge and quarterback this offseason. Bridgewater.

2490
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 1: I hope the best for Rivers and unless he gets

2491
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 1: an outstanding no line Colts for example, I'm not sure

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02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:12,800
Speaker 1: how well he can do at his age, wear and

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02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 1: tear as far as cry Brady, who cares as long

2494
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: as he fails, then good ridden sco bills. Yeah, there's

2495
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 1: something that angst about. There's some people wish him no

2496
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 1: will I think they do. Yeah. My last guess, Danny

2497
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 1: Heifetz said there were mixed feelings about Brady the Patriots here.

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02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they're mixed at all. I don't think

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02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 1: they're mixed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, should we keep going? No,

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Speaker 1: let's do uh NFL true false Brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and cheese. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Andy Dalton, quarterback for the Bengals bench last year.

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton will be a Ryan tannehill S acquisition for

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Speaker 1: the Bears. That's what they wrote on NFL dot Com.

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02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton could do for the Bears what Ryan Tannehill

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02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:57,960
Speaker 1: did for the Titans. True false. I say false, but

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Speaker 1: you got a lot to say about this, Steve go Ahead.

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Speaker 1: Tannehill is an interesting guy because he's gone Dalton. Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton is an interesting guy because he's gonna make seventeen

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Speaker 1: point five million. He's on the last year of a contract,

2511
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 1: and I don't know the specifics of it, but I

2512
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: think this is it's not guaranteed money. So if he

2513
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:18,080
Speaker 1: stays and they draft say a Joe Burrow or whoever,

2514
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert or two attack of Iloa, if they draft

2515
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 1: any quarterback at the number one pick of the draft, Cincinnati,

2516
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: they'll have Ryan Tannet or Andy Dalton to sit there

2517
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 1: and mentor the guy you want to if you want

2518
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:33,280
Speaker 1: to throw the guy in right away. I don't know

2519
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 1: that that's the amazing thing. Button he's been he's been benched,

2520
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:41,680
Speaker 1: but he is I think the best guy to mentor

2521
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 1: a young quarterback for Cincinnati franchise. He's played his entire

2522
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 1: career for. I mean he knows the ins and outs

2523
02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:49,640
Speaker 1: of how things are done and why they're doing things.

2524
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 1: He did not have a successful first season under Zach

2525
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:55,600
Speaker 1: Taylor for the Bengals. He got benched, as we saw.

2526
02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:58,640
Speaker 1: But he's an underrated thrower of the football and he's

2527
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:01,920
Speaker 1: got all you'd want for experience about teaching somebody. But

2528
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 1: for seventeen million bucks, that's a good nut for to

2529
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 1: be playing for a guy, to pay a guy to

2530
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 1: be a mentor, although as an NFL quarterback it's not

2531
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: that much. Does Dalton? Is he interested in being a

2532
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 1: mentor for somebody else? Don't you think he figures he

2533
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 1: can still play help somebody win. Well, he would still

2534
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,000
Speaker 1: be playing, and he'd be playing for the next contract

2535
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 1: if if the Bengals didn't want him around, and know what,

2536
02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:29,840
Speaker 1: they don't want him around they want Joe Burrow to

2537
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 1: take over, for instance, that's fine with them because Andy

2538
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 1: Dalton will be highly motivated to show everything he's got

2539
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 1: to sign yet another life changing deal. You know, yeah,

2540
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 1: true or false? Andy Dalton would be a Tannehill esque

2541
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 1: acquisition for the Bears. And we haven't even mentioned Trubisky,

2542
02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 1: who still is in Chicago, still their starter. You see

2543
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:52,440
Speaker 1: that happening. Andy Dalton to the Bears to be like

2544
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: a Ryan Tannehill. While Andy Dalton is no Tom Brady

2545
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: or Drew Brees. I think he is better than Mitch Trubisky.

2546
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that he would be transformative like Tannehill

2547
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:07,280
Speaker 1: was in Tennessee. But then again, I don't know. I've

2548
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 1: never seen Tannehill. I mean, I've never seen Andy Dalton

2549
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:12,880
Speaker 1: play for anybody but Cincinnati, and that's that's not the

2550
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 1: best evaluation thing. I mean, you know, he may be

2551
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 1: better with a franchise that's in a different spot. I

2552
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:21,280
Speaker 1: don't know. They're waiting for you to say true or

2553
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:24,480
Speaker 1: false in the other room. I want to go back

2554
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 1: to it. Tannehill caught lightning in a bottle, right, The

2555
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears do not have lightning in their bottle to

2556
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 1: be caught. Okay, number two? True or false? Yanti's fancy

2557
02:06:34,360 --> 02:06:37,440
Speaker 1: true or false? The Broccos more quarterback news. The Broccos

2558
02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:41,560
Speaker 1: should cut Joe Flacco this offseason? Why, Well, there's cap issues.

2559
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 1: He's due over twenty three million this year and the

2560
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:48,080
Speaker 1: emergence of Drew Locke as a viable starter, the Broccos

2561
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:50,600
Speaker 1: should cut Joe Flacco this offseason. I'm gonna say false.

2562
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:52,480
Speaker 1: You know why. I don't think Drew Locke has it.

2563
02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:55,280
Speaker 1: Had a decent rookie year and not a great rookie year.

2564
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:57,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be all in on Drew Lock yet. If

2565
02:06:57,320 --> 02:06:59,400
Speaker 1: I were the Denver Broccos and I would keep Joe

2566
02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:02,080
Speaker 1: Flacco around just in case I don't think Drew Lack

2567
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 1: has it, I would. I would cut Joe Flacco and

2568
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:09,840
Speaker 1: move on from him, but be looking for the next grade.

2569
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm John Elway, I'm still looking Drew Lock.

2570
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:17,120
Speaker 1: You're right, John, Drew Locke wasn't a home run and

2571
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 1: may never be, but he's still cheaper than Joe Flacco.

2572
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 1: Joe Flaccer, You're not gonna win any more games with

2573
02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:28,520
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco than yard Drew Locke. In my opinion, there

2574
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:32,080
Speaker 1: might be certain plays that that Joe Flacco will make

2575
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 1: the Drew Locke won't, but they're vice versa plays as well.

2576
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 1: They're different guys. I think it's time to move on

2577
02:07:38,160 --> 02:07:42,080
Speaker 1: from Joe Flacco. I would bring try and bring in guys,

2578
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:44,560
Speaker 1: I would ask Philip Rivers what he can give you,

2579
02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:46,160
Speaker 1: and that would gate put you in a position to

2580
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:48,720
Speaker 1: go down the road and get a guy younger later

2581
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:54,080
Speaker 1: gives you a year of, you know, good quarterback play.

2582
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 1: If you get a guy like Philip Rivers or somebody

2583
02:07:56,440 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 1: else to come into Denver. They've done it with Peyton Manning.

2584
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:01,320
Speaker 1: He gave him a few good years. Maybe Philip Rivers

2585
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:05,400
Speaker 1: gives you two years to find another guy. But I would,

2586
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:07,840
Speaker 1: I definitely would move on from Joe Flacco. All right,

2587
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:10,640
Speaker 1: there you go, Yancey's fancy NFL two or false brought

2588
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:13,280
Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists in chiefs.

2589
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,720
Speaker 1: A couple of calls Steve and Mdinah, go ahead, Steve,

2590
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:19,200
Speaker 1: you around the air. Oh thanks for taking my call.

2591
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 1: I just have a comment on Phil Rivers. I think

2592
02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 1: that I think that he's still got a lot to

2593
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:29,840
Speaker 1: give and he's gonna he's gonna be a member of

2594
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. And the reason for that is, uh,

2595
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 1: his previous relationship with Frank Reich, who was the offensive

2596
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:42,440
Speaker 1: coordinator with the Chargers a couple of years ago. And uh,

2597
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 1: I think at this point, he's better than Brissette. And

2598
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,880
Speaker 1: these days in the NFL, you don't have four or

2599
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: five six years to build a team, and uh, if

2600
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:56,200
Speaker 1: Rivers only has one or two years left, it's it's

2601
02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 1: worth it to get them over the hump and get

2602
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:02,760
Speaker 1: an into the playoffs. Yeah. I think step round is

2603
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 1: something there, and we talked about it a lot yesterday,

2604
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:08,000
Speaker 1: and especially in that division, doesn't take much to win

2605
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 1: the AFC South. The Colts can win it next year.

2606
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 1: I think if Philip Rivers is the quarterback, I agree.

2607
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 1: I like Philip. I think he's got a lot to offer,

2608
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:18,320
Speaker 1: and think about this, he could give him two years,

2609
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:20,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it could get two pretty

2610
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 1: good years. I think this is exactly the kind of

2611
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:26,040
Speaker 1: template that the Denver Broncos used when they went out

2612
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:28,040
Speaker 1: and got Tom Brady. You know, they had a much

2613
02:09:28,120 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 1: better defense than the Colts did do. But the Colts

2614
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:34,520
Speaker 1: defense is good, it's just not as elite as the

2615
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 1: Denver was it Denver Broncos were at that point. But

2616
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 1: I still think they got a field that Philip Rivers

2617
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:43,360
Speaker 1: is an upgrade over Jacoby Brissette. If they don't think that,

2618
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:46,400
Speaker 1: it's because they know it because Frank Reich saw both

2619
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 1: those guys play. He knows who Jacoby Brissette is. He's

2620
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:51,680
Speaker 1: coached him for two years, one year as a full

2621
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 1: time starter, And he knows Philip Rivers as recently as

2622
02:09:56,760 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 1: two years ago, he was in the room coaching him.

2623
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 1: So I think Frank Reik knows exactly what he's looking

2624
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 1: at with those two guys, and his actions are going

2625
02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 1: to tell us everything we need to know. I think

2626
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:07,640
Speaker 1: if he does go for Philip Rivers, it's got to

2627
02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:09,839
Speaker 1: be for more than just one year, in my opinion,

2628
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,080
Speaker 1: and we'll see. That'll tell us. But I agree, I

2629
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:15,840
Speaker 1: think Philip Rivers is exactly the template that would take

2630
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:18,960
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts another step deeper, get him back in

2631
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:20,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and win that division. All Right, we got

2632
02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:23,040
Speaker 1: a breakcare We're coming back. One Bill's Live presented by

2633
02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:38,840
Speaker 1: Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hey,

2634
02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 1: now it's time for what have we learned from today's show?

2635
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental

2636
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. Good Show. Today, Nick Hardwick

2637
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:50,000
Speaker 1: joined us long time center for Philip Rivers out in

2638
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:53,040
Speaker 1: San Diego with the Chargers Nick Hardwick, we asked him

2639
02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 1: where Philip Rivers might wind up playing next year. Here's

2640
02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:59,200
Speaker 1: what he said. Indianapolis, to me is a really natural fit.

2641
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:01,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a great fit. What you have to

2642
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:05,760
Speaker 1: have with Philip as intensive a pocket quarterback as you

2643
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 1: could possibly have, he is wildly immobile. He has to

2644
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:13,320
Speaker 1: have a very good old school offensive line who can

2645
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:16,000
Speaker 1: give him time to diagnose the defense. And then kind

2646
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:18,520
Speaker 1: of an intriguing one for me is Tampa Bay, who's

2647
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:22,240
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians has worked with both Carson Palmer and had

2648
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 1: a ton of success with him and with Kurt Warner.

2649
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:29,040
Speaker 1: And so when you talk about that matchup an aging quarterback,

2650
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,240
Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback, But I don't know if they have

2651
02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and I don't know if they're quite

2652
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 1: ready for a Philip Rivers. They may be looking for

2653
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 1: something to hold them over for a couple of years. Indianapolis,

2654
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. He mentioned the Las Vegas Raiders, He mentioned

2655
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:47,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Nic Hardwick did talking about Philip Rivers destination.

2656
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:50,440
Speaker 1: Well also had Danny Hifitz on the show earlier this hour.

2657
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:53,200
Speaker 1: He talked about the Patriots and Tom Brady He says

2658
02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:56,360
Speaker 1: it's obvious that Robert Kraft and wants Brady to return,

2659
02:11:56,440 --> 02:11:59,160
Speaker 1: but he's he suggested that it's time for Brady to

2660
02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:03,440
Speaker 1: testify agent market. Here's what Danny Hipitz said. Who doesn't

2661
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:05,760
Speaker 1: want Tom Brady like like at some point, Actually, it's

2662
02:12:05,800 --> 02:12:08,880
Speaker 1: funny because this one actually transcends for football. In my mind,

2663
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:11,800
Speaker 1: it's not about football, it's it's it's about a brand.

2664
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:13,520
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, these teams are businesses.

2665
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:16,280
Speaker 1: And who doesn't want Tom Brady to be on your team?

2666
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 1: Who doesn't want to sell Tom Brady jerseys? Who doesn't

2667
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:19,560
Speaker 1: want to be the team that gives Tom Brady a

2668
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:24,200
Speaker 1: second chance? And for Bob Kraft, quite frankly, it's difficult

2669
02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:28,040
Speaker 1: to convince me that the Patriots twenty twenty season is

2670
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:33,240
Speaker 1: more important than Tom Brady's longstanding relationship with the Patriots franchise. It's,

2671
02:12:33,320 --> 02:12:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, it is important whether you know, Brent flav

2672
02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:39,440
Speaker 1: retires on good terms with the Packers, if Michael Jordan

2673
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:41,680
Speaker 1: retires on good terms with the Bulls, are not, because

2674
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:44,920
Speaker 1: it just matters to the wider fan base to feel

2675
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,880
Speaker 1: that that relationship isn't in an offered place that was

2676
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:50,080
Speaker 1: good stuff we had. I'm seeing Twitter poll today who

2677
02:12:50,120 --> 02:12:52,720
Speaker 1: is the most valuable for agent quarterback likely to be available?

2678
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 1: And look, maybe none of these three are going to

2679
02:12:54,920 --> 02:12:57,320
Speaker 1: be are going to be available? Well, we know Rivers

2680
02:12:57,360 --> 02:12:59,680
Speaker 1: will be, but forty three percent of our respondence. We

2681
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:02,320
Speaker 1: had one hundred and eight votes total, forty three percent

2682
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:05,280
Speaker 1: of our respond and said Teddy Bridgewater, thirty two percent,

2683
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:08,520
Speaker 1: said Tom Brady, fifteen percent, say Philip Rivers, ten percent

2684
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:10,000
Speaker 1: on somebody else in mind. I thought that was good

2685
02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:13,080
Speaker 1: response today, Carriage, I was too, And I think people

2686
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:14,680
Speaker 1: are kind of keeping their thumb on the pulse of

2687
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:17,480
Speaker 1: what's happening, and there's so much we don't know right now.

2688
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:19,440
Speaker 1: A month away from win it free. AGC can stop

2689
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:24,400
Speaker 1: us wild speculation is our wheelhouse, Murph not No one

2690
02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:27,240
Speaker 1: doesn't stop us at all. Hey, tomorrow show, Greg McElroy

2691
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:29,720
Speaker 1: will join us. He is a color analyst on ESPN's

2692
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:32,480
Speaker 1: coverage of the XFL. We'll talk to him about his

2693
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:35,640
Speaker 1: NFL career and about some of the quarterback prospects in

2694
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:37,520
Speaker 1: next year's draft. It should be good time. It's gonna

2695
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 1: be fun, It's gonna be We're gonna wind up, gonna

2696
02:13:39,160 --> 02:13:41,240
Speaker 1: we have one week after this week and we'll head

2697
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 1: to the draft, to the Combines. Indianapolis will start getting

2698
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:46,240
Speaker 1: our eyes on these young guys. Two weeks from today

2699
02:13:46,240 --> 02:13:48,040
Speaker 1: our first date to Combine. That's right stuff. I want

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02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 1: to thank our production assistants George Blast, Jeff Colton and

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02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:54,640
Speaker 1: Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, j j Arito, Kevin Krgiss, and

2702
02:13:54,720 --> 02:13:57,320
Speaker 1: James Robot. Our producer Jay Harris. We'll see you tomorrow

2703
02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,200
Speaker 1: at twelve noon. We're here twelve noon to three with

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02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalada Hell from the Seneca

2705
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:05,440
Speaker 1: Studios in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio