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This is taking stock 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: with pim Box and kapolne Hays on Bloomberg Radio. India's 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: a sent Sex stock index gained nearly one percent today. 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: This follows easing of government's rules regarding foreign direct investment restrictions. Also, 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: this follows news over the weekend that the injury, India's 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Central Bank governor will step down when his term ends 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: in September. Here to tell us more about India and 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: other emerging markets is Jeffrey Dennis. He is the head 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: of Global Emerging Markets Strategy from UBS Securities. Jeffrey, thank 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: you very much for being with us. Give us your 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: take on what has happened in India. The announcement, as 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: I said, of the governor of the Central Bank announcing 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: he would be stepping down, and then these changes in 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: direct foreign direct investments, well, certainly the announcement that Mr 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: Rojan is stepping down was negative surprise. Markets attorney been 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: trying to anticipate whether his term would be renewed when 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: it ended in September. But I think the unbalanced people 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: thought he probably would retain his position, and so his 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: decision to leave, I think is definitely a negative for 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the market and in fact in our Asian strategy portfolio. 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Today in my colleague out cut India back to neutral. 39 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: So we're taking a more defensive line on India in 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: the short term while we see who replaces Mr John 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: and will there be any let up in what has 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: been a very effective polity in India of being pretty 43 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: tight on monetary policy so you can get inflation down 44 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: and then of course ultimately interest rates down as well, 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: so it's negative. With any question, Jef, I'd like to 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: ask you about this because it's surprising to be a 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, um Rabu Rajon indicated that I 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: don't necessarily want a second term past the three years 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: because prominent politicians close to Modi have been beating up 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: on him. Oh you're you're too tough on inflation, you 51 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: need to cut rates. And then Moody uh, he wanted 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: uh rag Ragen to stay just let them beat up 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: on him. And this is the same rag Ragan who 54 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: left the University of Chicago Boost School of Business to 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: go back home to India and help them out at 56 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: a time right inflation was high, the rupee was falling. 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: He's made a huge difference. He's the same Rau Rajan 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: okave the speech in Jackson Hall Wyoming in August of 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: two thousand six, basically warning that there are pressures brewing 60 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: that could bring down the financial system, which nobody listened to. 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: So this is a man of great accomplishment. Why has 62 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Mody not stepped in to ask Ragen to stay? Um, 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: it's not castling that he didn't step in to ask 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: him to stay. He may well have asked him to stay. 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: And I think this looks like the city of royster 66 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: rajan itself himself to to not seek another term. And 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: that may well be because of the continuous um uh, 68 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, criticism and sniping that has gone on form 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: not from Mr Mody per se, but were the members 70 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: of the of the government who may have just had 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: enough with that. So I think if if Moody had 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: come to him as Theremonid comes to him and said, look, 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: we really want you to stay, I think you probably 74 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: would have stayed. So um it reminds me a little 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: bit of when Volka La La, you know, left the 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve and at seven nobody quite knew his his 77 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: decision or or at the time President Reagan's decision. I 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of an uncertainty. But Net 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: and Nets this was a surprise. I think we all 80 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: felt on balance the chances of where he would have. 81 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: As another term, it's a negative this indeed, as you 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: rightly saying, this is a very talented guy, who is 83 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: highly regarded, who's probably going to go onto other senior 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: positions in global chinance eventually, and his loss to the 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: center Bank unity is big. We just did to see 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: what policy is going to look like with his replacements. Jeffrey, 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: what about the change in government policy about foreign direct investment? 88 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: For example, Apple may be able to open their own 89 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: stores as a result of these change I mean this 90 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: is an ongoing process. Clearly, part of the key part 91 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: of the government's reform program is grantually to loosen up 92 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: the foreign direct investment rules in various sectors. It's been 93 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: a stop style process. As you'll know that there's been 94 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: great disappointment about the great disporce, some dis some way 95 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: about the speed of the overall reform program, and there 96 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: has been some stopping and starting previously, including for example, 97 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: with respect of FDI going into the retail sector, into 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: an insurance sector. I think you'll simply argue this is 99 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: another brick in the wall, if you like, of opening 100 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: up India to foreign money as it becomes more competitive, 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: as therefore its internal growth rate should improve. It's a 102 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: good piece of news and timed on the day of 103 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Mr Roger's departure or that announcement. Anyway, I think that's 104 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: a pretty good piece of timing because you should view 105 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: it as as a positivelopment the India story generally. But 106 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's I think it's not new at such. 107 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: It's just part of a process that's been ongoing for 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: a while. In other words, I think you're implying as 109 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: a perhaps the government wanted to put out some piece 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: in is because having Ragi Raj and say I'm washing 111 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: my hands of this, I'm leaving has affected the routebe 112 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: the ruby has bounded amounts back a bit. You even 113 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: said you've got more defensive on India, and you've said 114 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: on this show in the past, Jeff, as have others, 115 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: that India is your favorite emerging market investment donation. Well, 116 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it still is a great place 117 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: to invest in in the long term. We're just merely 118 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: saying that we want to just sit back and observe 119 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: a little bit take more of a tactically cautious view 120 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: in the short term to see to what extent polity 121 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: could change. In other ways, if you would see in 122 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: the short term growth being pumped up by sacrificing um, 123 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: a tough monitory policy that gets inflation and the cost 124 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: of cappel interest right down. In the long term, I 125 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: think we would consider that that to be a negative. 126 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: But certainly it's a tad kill move. We need to 127 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: see what the replacement of Mr Rajon, who it's going 128 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: to be, and what the polity is gonna look like. 129 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: We we strongly believe uh the drop inflation, the drop 130 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: in interest rates, the very sound monetary policy, the stabilization 131 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: of rupee has been a critical part of the Indian 132 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: story in the last three years, and so as well 133 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: as the more conventional reforms. We need to know that's 134 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: going to carry on. Until we do, we're just being 135 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more cautious short tone. Jeff Danis, thank 136 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: you so much, very much for enjoining us. He's had 137 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: a global emerging market strategy at UBS Securities, very interesting. 138 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: He and his team were defensive with the departure of 139 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: Ragu Rajan as the head of the world The Reserve 140 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: Bank of India has to watch and see how it 141 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: plays out. Who his replacement maybe. I'm Kathleen Hayes along 142 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: with him, Fox's taking Stock on Bloomberg Radio. Coming up 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: on taking Stock the Brexit vote on Thursday. Will UK 144 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: voters will they vote to a main part of the 145 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: European Union? And what happens to the pounds sterling. That's next. 146 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm taking stock