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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Bria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett. Coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's you alive on a Monday edition to

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Speaker 2: the program beerly Bow the Great z. We got a

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Speaker 2: lot to get to here, brother one more. Oh, there

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, and on that front, let's let's

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Speaker 4: not forget.

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Speaker 2: We won't. We can do that. We're we're get we

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Speaker 2: get in that. We got a lot going on here.

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Speaker 4: We got Gibbe and Nantucket Reds Today.

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Speaker 2: He looks great day, big day. He knows it. Yep,

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Speaker 2: that's right, it's gonna be good.

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Speaker 4: Thriving Arlett said, he's onon the outfit of the day already.

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Speaker 2: He's already got it, got the dub.

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Speaker 3: Because of the sweat.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's he's can't be in any competition.

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Speaker 5: He made a fantastic blueberry lemonade downstairs. Who did our

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Speaker 5: Lavelle and his fantastic crew.

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Speaker 2: A blueberry lemonade?

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Speaker 5: It's a blueberry lemonade. I'm telling you a couple of

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Speaker 5: shots at vodka. We were on a boat and we're

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Speaker 5: living our best life.

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Speaker 3: Just one day, get it on Monday.

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Speaker 2: That almost sounds like it's kind of like on the

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Speaker 2: verge of like a transfer.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty in Europe it's happy hour right now. I

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Speaker 3: think that that is Stevie.

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Speaker 2: You wanted to get me a blueberry lemonade, Steve.

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Speaker 3: Blueberry lemonade.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I need to try to give

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Speaker 4: did you go over to the like the grilled food area.

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Speaker 5: I saw it, but I did not, like take a

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Speaker 5: good hard look at so you didn't.

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Speaker 4: Did you see the special steak that they had?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe have checked out on that. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Give me the label you know on the I want

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Speaker 2: the label on the.

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Speaker 4: Special stak that's in the back. It's a ribbi of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty sure. It feels like it's impossible that it

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Speaker 2: would be what you claimed, but who knows. It's all

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Speaker 2: in play. Lavelle is a master.

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Speaker 4: The word water is on there one in some way.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, it just seems like I would have

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Speaker 2: seen it somewhere on a menu before it showed up

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Speaker 2: at a facility.

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Speaker 4: We've had gator here.

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Speaker 2: I've seen gater on a menu.

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Speaker 3: Same we've had swordfish, gator.

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Speaker 2: AMENSU seen all that stuff on a menu. I've never

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Speaker 2: seen what was claimed. So we'll see. You'll see if

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Speaker 2: that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: May my eyes deceived me, could.

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Speaker 2: Be, could be this was We got a lot going

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Speaker 2: on in terms of the roster. So just so everybody understands,

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Speaker 2: the final cutdown will be tomorrow at four pm, and

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Speaker 2: then from there there will be an initial fifty three,

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Speaker 2: then an actual fifty three. And so we as well

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Speaker 2: as the rest of the NFL are getting to that

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Speaker 2: initial fifty three and it's kind of coming in bits

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Speaker 4: Yes, So an initial wave happened this weekend over the

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Speaker 4: course of the weekend, started with the Browns putting Jakeem

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Speaker 4: Grant on injured reserve. And I gotta tell you something

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Speaker 4: that was gut wrenching watching it. So we obviously at

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Speaker 4: Kansas City. It turns out we call the game from

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Speaker 4: eight thousand feet in the air, yep. So you are

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Speaker 4: the way that they started frantically being like that it

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Speaker 4: was bad, and my heart just goes out to him.

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Speaker 4: You worked so hard to come back from that achilles.

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Speaker 4: It is likely now he will never play a snap

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe early thirties, so it can be career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it was. That was that was tough.

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Speaker 2: It was obvious on the on the I was watching

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Speaker 2: By the time doctor Bruce got out there, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: like I cannot imagine. I mean, you talk to professional

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Speaker 2: grueling for months, yeah right, yeah, and then to get

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Speaker 4: Eventually, Yes, it just feels, it feels very difficult to

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Speaker 4: deal with. So jackiem Grant was placed on injured reserve

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Speaker 4: with that torn Pateel attendant then Caleb Biggers, Cam Bright, Miller, Forrestall,

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Speaker 4: somebody else could claim them. Contracts were terminated. This means

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Speaker 4: they are vested veterans of Colby Gossett and Jordan Wilkins,

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Speaker 4: and Wilkins had an opportunity in that game, unfortunately did

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Speaker 4: not take advantage of that opportunity. The ball ended up

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Speaker 4: snaps there. He had changes he did, but contract terminate.

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Speaker 4: I think he could be a practice squad candidate for

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Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns along with Colby Gossett. So Brown's now

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Speaker 4: got the roster down to seventy six. They still need

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Speaker 4: to happen. And the team also made a trade which

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Speaker 4: was getting Pierre Strong from the Patriots, a fourth round

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Speaker 4: pick just a year ago. Yep, so the same draft

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Speaker 4: Patriots had selected Pierre Strong in the fourth for Tyrone Wheatley,

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Speaker 4: and that was something that if you had been listening to.

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Speaker 2: The've been talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that Wheatley.

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Speaker 4: Could fetch us a running back and sure enough, there

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Speaker 4: it was. It happened, and so that's uh, that's where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was always like we talked about that last week,

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Speaker 4: So, Pierre Strong out of South Dakota State, a very

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Speaker 4: because Jim said that, yes, soa yeah, Chris Oladucan. The

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what that Jack crabit. It's one of

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Speaker 2: They've actually kind of I think last year they beat

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Speaker 4: All right, So Pierre strong is last year as a

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Speaker 4: at South Dakota SA, he rushed for four thousand, five

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Speaker 4: All Conference running back twenty twenty one, he was an

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Speaker 4: FCS All American. He was elite in terms of his

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Speaker 4: with some burst and also the ability to make people

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Speaker 4: he was pretty pretty good and limited obviously limited playing

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Speaker 4: able to bring in a guy who's young who I

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Speaker 4: a very good pass catcher, as I said, and he

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Speaker 2: Where is Jerome Ford with his health?

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Speaker 4: It's a great question. Don't know the answer that. The

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Speaker 4: belief is that he will be ready for week one,

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Speaker 4: but you know, until you see it, you know, then

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Speaker 3: Quite frankly.

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Speaker 2: We also had the Knashic injury, heartbreaking.

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Speaker 4: So that's not season ending, no, but but camp Man right,

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Speaker 4: So then that becomes a question do they carry him?

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Speaker 4: Do they carry him on the fifty three or do

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Speaker 4: they think because he's injured, they can wave him and

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Speaker 4: then get him back and then put him on you know,

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Speaker 4: see how that plays out, because he was going to

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Speaker 2: So in terms of oh, one other thing that was

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Speaker 2: a bummer, but an incredible positive and that is Marquise

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Speaker 2: Goodwin cleared. So this is I mean, you just can't

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Speaker 2: when we were talking about Marquise Goodwin and what he

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Speaker 2: gave the offense good Night Nurse. If he's ready to

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Speaker 2: that's a game wrecking that he has stuff that nobody

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Speaker 2: else on the roster has.

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Speaker 3: Correct and there was no replacement for him on this roster.

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Speaker 4: And so getting Marquis Goodwin back is phenomenal news. What

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Speaker 4: a great guy. I can't wait to talk to him

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Speaker 4: and see him. I think we're going to have him

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Speaker 4: on the Kevin Stefanski Show this week if I have

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Speaker 4: that right gibe Markeith Goodwin.

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Speaker 2: Yees.

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Speaker 4: So I'll get to serve him tomorrow when we have

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Speaker 4: the Kevin Stefanski Show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he and I think he will be.

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Speaker 4: He's only got a pleas going to play ten to

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Speaker 4: he's been able to stay in shape and able to

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Speaker 4: you know, with him coming back and then no Ja

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Speaker 4: Kim Grant I think it paves a way for David

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Speaker 4: I think you would have had to carry seven if

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Speaker 4: you wanted to keep David belfour because I think ja

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Speaker 4: King Grant was going to be making this team. So

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Speaker 4: a lot changed actually in a short period of time

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Speaker 4: that fact. And we have the report right now going

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Speaker 4: around from Tom Pellisera that the Browns are releasing Michael Dunn.

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Speaker 4: And many people thought Michael Dunn was going to make

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Speaker 4: four two kickers on the fifty This now, I mean

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Speaker 5: Break this could take us into. This could take us

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Speaker 2: Break down the game.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven minute bomb.

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Speaker 2: Here's the I don't know it's game I mean, we're

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of reads, there's a lot of sponsors.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're back and all that. We're back.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's just just we have a few minutes. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: six wide no Felton, six wide receivers, I don't think so, right, Okay,

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, don't do that, don't buy those.

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Speaker 3: He might be ten right now.

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Speaker 2: He could be ten today.

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Speaker 2: It's probably how that's gonna go. We talked about that,

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Speaker 2: Like that wasn't gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: No, I I asked him that question directly on one

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Speaker 2: Knew there was no way he was staying at eighty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't don't buy those. All right, tight end three yep, okay.

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Speaker 4: And offensive line it feels like nine now, so that's five.

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Speaker 4: Defensively, I think five Defensive's your.

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Speaker 2: That's a thing, folks, that z he always talks about,

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Speaker 4: I'm just let me look at this real fast, Matthew.

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Speaker 2: So you're at fifteen. Now you're in the corner room. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: wan Thornhill who, Boy did he look good? Grant Rodney McLeod,

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Speaker 2: You're just tantalizing me with this, and we have to

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Speaker 2: So that's that's your likely.

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Speaker 4: Can you have the clip of coach from yesterday from

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I can find it.

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Speaker 4: And if it's gone, if you don't see a strange

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Speaker 4: What can I get that sign? Can I get that sign?

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Speaker 3: Got quite a to do list this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the most These are these are job ones.

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Speaker 2: We had a game that was played on Saturday. For

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Speaker 3: Do you expect me to be the kicker week one?

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Speaker 5: I think all those type of things Scott, as you know,

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Speaker 3: He is just not going to be kicking week one.

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Speaker 2: This is no score or this is me just talking.

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Speaker 2: That's right, it can't. You can't.

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Speaker 3: It's a fact.

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Speaker 4: Was blocked was going quite low and quite left, so

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00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 4: that was not going in either. No, No, I think that,

440
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 4: and I think that that answer tells you that, you know,

441
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 4: that's the first time there hasn't been a staunch This

442
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 4: kid is our kicker.

443
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 3: We believe in him.

444
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 4: This was we'll keep that internal, as I said before,

445
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 4: And that's why when we were talking earlier, it's possible

446
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: to me that this is now a team that maybe

447
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: has two kickers on the fifty three, because I don't

448
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,479
Speaker 4: think they want to. They're not going to cut him.

449
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 4: Somebody will claim.

450
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: Him for sure.

451
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 4: You know, a team that's not that good. Houston says, right,

452
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 4: get you in a dome and you could be our

453
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: kicker for the next fifteen years. And we don't care.

454
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 4: We're not trying to win the super Bowl this year, Arizona,

455
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 4: whatever it is. So I don't think they can cut him,

456
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 4: and I don't know r did they want to cut him?

457
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: I think that.

458
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: So how would that work?

459
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 4: So you'd either put a second kicker on your fifty

460
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 4: three or you would get a kicker on your practice

461
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 4: squad that you would activate and protect as for a law,

462
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: as many times as you could.

463
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: So what that would do is that would buy time

464
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: for kids get But.

465
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 4: The hard part is, here's the hard part, BO, is

466
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 4: that he's he is locked in in practice. This is

467
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 4: a game, not Tuesday.

468
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: Tuesdayday we're out there drought, no.

469
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: But then the last day before we played the Chiefs

470
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: that he kicked you in six for six, including a

471
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 4: fifty plus yarder.

472
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: That day we were out there, though it was interesting,

473
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: like I don't know if no one else was watching it,

474
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: but like it was right in front of us and

475
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: among others who were far more important than you and

476
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: I actually on the field. But in terms, it felt.

477
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: Like the meat.

478
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: That that was happening, it was happening concerrently with actual

479
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: eleven on eleven and stuff that was happening on the

480
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: other field.

481
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: That's right. So it was that rare time where the

482
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: stuff that normally we'd be breaking down was happening on

483
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: the other side and this was happening right right in

484
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 2: front of us.

485
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So now I'm with you. It's unfortunate. You know,

486
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 4: it started with a miss in the Hall of Fame game,

487
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 4: and it really like just snowballed from there.

488
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: It's a you've you've used this analogy a lot. It's

489
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: the best one. It's a putter, it's it's just it's

490
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: an inability to do something you've done a thousand times.

491
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: It's the yips, it's the shanks, it's the whatever. It's

492
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: all mental. It's not anything to do with him physically.

493
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 2: He obviously is absurdly talented. It's so funny. I was

494
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: you know, you get asked about I'm sure you get

495
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 2: asked about this all the time. You probably got asked

496
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: about it when you were enjoying your force and with

497
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 2: the boys. I was asked I did yesterday, peppered about it.

498
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: And you know, the thing that I keep coming back

499
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: to is it's like, it's not like this kid didn't

500
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: hit a fifty eight yarder to beat Carolina last year

501
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 2: in the opener in his first ever NFL game. It's

502
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: not like he didn't hit one of the most impressive

503
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: kicks in the history of the Southeastern Conference. Like, he

504
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: has full and talent.

505
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: He was fourteen to eighteen from fifty plus in college. Yeah,

506
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: so like wider hashes like yeah, critics.

507
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: So that one I'm talking about in the fog in

508
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: games fields like so you don't want to just there's

509
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: something there and the last thing that anybody wants is

510
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: to part ways with him. He's a good kid, he's

511
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: a confident kid. He's just right now. He's a little broke.

512
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: You were not still down in Florida for the Roberto

513
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: Aguayo era, right, oh.

514
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: At Florida State. Yeah, no, no, I was not. That

515
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: was after me was an adri actually like in the

516
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: second round, but he was like he was bombed, like

517
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: I can't miss, I cannot miss a man yep, and

518
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: then it miss miss and never ever never sort it out. No, no, no,

519
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: I was. I just missed the beginning the end of

520
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: uh Janakowski. Okay, the other Florida State kicker the first

521
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 2: round and actually validated.

522
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 3: Was great forever yeah best.

523
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I think that we're at a position here

524
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 4: where there will be the guy whoever's kicking Week one

525
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: for the clean Browns. It feels like it's not here,

526
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 4: and that will either be somebody that is added to

527
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 4: the fifty three if they decided, you know what this

528
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: season support we're gonna go sign Robbie Gould.

529
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: I think Nick Folk would be.

530
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: Somebody that'd be very interested in if the Patriots again,

531
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 4: he's in a kicking competition, if they go with the younger,

532
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: cheaper option. You know, Mason Crosby is still out there,

533
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 4: although he was, you know, kind of trending down. I

534
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: would say towards the end of his career.

535
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: He would be most familiar with our elements.

536
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: He would be Gold Chicago forever, long time.

537
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all those guys.

538
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: Would be Okay, Robbie Gold's never missed the playoff kick.

539
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: You need someone who can go out there and hit

540
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: a forty three yarder, and you need someone to hit

541
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: extra points. You don't need fifty seven yarders. You don't need.

542
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: You'd like it, sure, love to have it. That's why

543
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: you drafted Kaid York.

544
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: That's a nice luxury, sure.

545
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: But you need the the layups need to be layups.

546
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's I think that's the issue that we're

547
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: facing right now. And I think that there isn't there

548
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: cannot be justifiable confidence that cad York would be able

549
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: to do.

550
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: That right now.

551
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: No, And then what it does is, and we talked

552
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: about this. I can't remember which game it was, if

553
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: it was, I think it was after the Washington game. Yeah,

554
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: it was the Washington game here and we talked afterwards

555
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: on that show and said, like, this change is the

556
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: way you coach, right, and if Kevin Stefanski like you,

557
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: you're now going to call plays differently for fear of

558
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: putting yourself in a position to rely on him. So like,

559
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: you can't do that. There's the AFC is too much.

560
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: It's too much. You can't lose a game on a miskick.

561
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: That should be routine.

562
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: One, two and one versus four And oh you do

563
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 4: that in a quarter of this season called the first

564
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: four games, we go four to o the first four

565
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: games or three and oh in the division feet you're

566
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 4: in a great spot. Yep, you go one, two and

567
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: one in those I'm telling it's a it's it's a

568
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: whole different season.

569
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 2: And where if those losses, if the two losses are

570
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: both divisional losses.

571
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: Right, you could be cooked cooked.

572
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. Can't have it too much to gain, too.

573
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: Much to risk. So that's going to be fascinating how

574
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: that happens. When that happens, I mean, part of me thinks,

575
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: part of me thinks, you know, it's tomorrow is the deadline,

576
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 4: you know, you if you're signing, let's say it's a

577
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: Gould or a Crosby. Maybe they're waiting for Nick Folk,

578
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: but let's say it was Gould or Crosby, Like, I

579
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: sign him today, Get him here, get him kicking in

580
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: our stadium today as quickly as you possibly can, because

581
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: he needs to get here. He needs get work with

582
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 4: our operation, you know. And then this is just again

583
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: not scores. This is me thinking out loud because like, honestly,

584
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: to your point, that's all anybody wants talk about right

585
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: now around this town, which is in some ways good,

586
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: but it is in other ways not good.

587
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: It is because it's the only thing that's of question.

588
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, like our d is clearly going to be nasty.

589
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: Thornhill is such a good center field free safety.

590
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: We have not Haddarus.

591
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: Zidarius has hardly played Shelby. Oh my god, shall you

592
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: see that swim move, the Darius one where he threw

593
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: their tackle on the ground and Miles hasn't even been

594
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: out there. No, so we're going to be the defensively

595
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: a handful. You saw some beautiful balls in structure and

596
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: that the touchdown passa Nadjoku was so good. I hope

597
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: people appreciate how good of a past that was. And

598
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: then out of structure where he gets out by Simon. Oh,

599
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: now you get fifty three yards to Mary Cooper. So

600
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: I I and the semball you were right, was an

601
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: absolute dart on the first play the game for twenty

602
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: one yards to DPJ.

603
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: I like.

604
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: Everything that's going on. The kicker thinks, So again, these

605
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: are not scores. This was me talking a loud. Is

606
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: that maybe you know you bring in this veteran and

607
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: perhaps you know if you're in a good health spot

608
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 4: the game against Arizona, let's call it okay, you have

609
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: him active, and if the game's going as we would

610
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: expect that game to go, you let him kick in

611
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: that game, give him some game reps and hopefully puts

612
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 4: it through. Hopefully they look good. All of those things,

613
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: you know, because you're gonna find out, especially in that

614
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: kind of a scenario. That's a real pressure field situation.

615
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna here's a little kind of like.

616
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: In season tryout.

617
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's as important a kick as you're going to

618
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: have in your career.

619
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: So I don't know if they'll do that.

620
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if they just read shirt them a

621
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 4: whole year and say, Okay, we'll start over again next year.

622
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: They have to carry him, they're not.

623
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: I don't think you cut him. If you cut him,

624
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: he will be on.

625
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: So if no one.

626
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: Question, but like so like he would have to be

627
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: we'd have to have two kickers on the fifty three for.

628
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: The whole year. So or you would have a kicker

629
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: on the practice squad that is active, vaded to the

630
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: roster that week, and then you would protect that kicker

631
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: on the prey because you can protect a couple of people.

632
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: But how many times not often? Not right, so long, Yeah, but.

633
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: You probably would end up having to carry two kickers.

634
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: Have, yeah, two on the fifty three if you're gonna

635
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: if you could do the red shirt situation.

636
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, which is sunning. But what my only argument

637
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: would be is you were going to be carrying three quarterbacks. Yeah,

638
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: and now you're carrying two, you'll have a third.

639
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: On the practice squad.

640
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and whether that's Kellen Mond or somebody else, Yeah,

641
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: remains to be seen.

642
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: The Denzel injury, yeah, brutal, brutal.

643
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you hope that obviously, you know, he's okay.

644
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: Is this four this fourth of his career? I think

645
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: he had two his rookie year and the one at

646
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: the end of the rooki year was very bad. That's

647
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: what he missed games with last year. Wasn't it a concussion?

648
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, wasn't it.

649
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I thought.

650
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you hope that obviously that he number one

651
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: is okay, and number two he's he's ready to go,

652
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: you know, come week one.

653
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the thing with that is like it's not

654
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: like you can no.

655
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: But my and my thought now with that is do

656
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: they you know, do they rethink he's again a lot

657
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: of reps in the slot. Do they rethink that, because

658
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: when you are in the slot, you are a part

659
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: of the run defense. You're off then a forced defender

660
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: in the run defense. Now, I think a lot of

661
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: this could be alleviated by him tackling properly. And you

662
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: go back to Greg Williams.

663
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: I think Greg was always on him about that.

664
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: And and the one the play where he did get hurt,

665
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: you know, his head, he led down in there with

666
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: his head. That's yeah. Look, we feel very good about

667
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: our corner depth. And there are many teams that where

668
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: if Denzel were unable to go, You're starting two corners

669
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 4: would be as good. Like a team wants their number

670
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: one to still have and Greg, but then to go

671
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: down to the third that becomes a little bit more dicey.

672
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: I think, you know, Aj Green did not look great. Now,

673
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: maybe cam Mitchell is ready to roll. Maybe I kind

674
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: of like him, But that's kind of where you're at

675
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: right now. So it's uh, yeah, that's it's a concerning

676
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: one because number one, you care about his health like

677
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: your brain these this matter is a great deal. You know,

678
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: I wonder if, like I wonder if there will be

679
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: some players and this is again this just popped in

680
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: my head right now, who would who have had multiple concussions,

681
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: who would ask the NFL to be able to play

682
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: with that guardian cap in the regular season.

683
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't a guardian cap. I remember like Steve

684
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: Tasker years ago played with that like second helmet, second

685
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: helmet memory look like dark helmet, but he did. Yeah,

686
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: he wore that thing like the guardian cap or whatever,

687
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: like you know. I But then it's like ego does

688
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: does the ego get in the way? You will you

689
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: do it? Like you should potentially do it. I don't know.

690
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: It's it just sucks because like he didn't play preseason

691
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: games the last two years, then he plays and this

692
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: was the only one he's seen action in. Right, So

693
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 2: this was the only one he sees action in. And

694
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: not to say that this wouldn't have happened in the

695
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: first game of the regular season against Cincinnati. He very

696
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: very likely could have could have been the next hit,

697
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: could happen in a practice. But it's just so much

698
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: of what we're trying to do defensively, the primary man

699
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: all of that stuff. Getting home with that front requires

700
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: corners to be great, and he's the best mirror corner

701
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: in the NFL. He is, but he's got to be

702
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: on the field. You're just so much better with him.

703
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: And it doesn't doesn't help that you open with the

704
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: best receiving core in the NFL.

705
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: Week one, No, most certainly does not. And I'm watching

706
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: the play now what it was.

707
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: It was the run.

708
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: Pachaco bounced out to the right, and when he went

709
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: to tackle him, he went in low, and I think

710
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: he just kind of got hit by Pachaco and Then'rus

711
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: Smith the other I think it was kind of a

712
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 4: freak thing. I don't really think anything do much with

713
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: his I don't know how he would have been able

714
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: to avoid it because Zidarius he went into the runner.

715
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: He went, he went into the runner, and then also

716
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: Zadarius hid him from Zadarius is chasing kind of right

717
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: behind the runner.

718
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got it.

719
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh now he didn't if the symptoms came on later,

720
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: It was not really. He stayed in the game, there

721
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 4: was no even thought. But he then, I guess obviously

722
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: developed some symptoms as the game went on a little

723
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: bit later on in the fourth quarter.

724
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

725
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: And then was a you know, observationism the concussion protocol,

726
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: and so you hoped that he's able to be back

727
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 4: and that he's okay, just kind of a freak thing,

728
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: but yeah, a bummer. And you know, look people are saying, oh, well,

729
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: he should never be out there. He wanted to play,

730
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: These guys wanted to play, and these guys didn't want

731
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: to your point a long camp man, they did not

732
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: want the first time that they're playing playing to be

733
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: against Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow.

734
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: So the only people who didn't play Miles Chubb Botonia.

735
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: And that's what I thought.

736
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: With those who didn't like the Chiefs.

737
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: Played all of their guys the first two games, all

738
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: of them.

739
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 2: Steelers played everybody every game, Mahomes, all of them. Yeah,

740
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: Steelers played everybody every game. So there's yeah, I don't

741
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: think you can do that. I don't think you can

742
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: second guess what was he doing out there. I don't

743
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: think that doesn't make any sense, because these things could

744
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: have happened at any point, would be good.

745
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, who knows? Coming in right now? I thought

746
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 5: like it might be a good time transition wise.

747
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Okay, what's he got?

748
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: Good stuff for all of you?

749
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: This kid's unbelieva look at them?

750
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: Who knows?

751
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: Oh that's okayus, Oh there he's brought that all right?

752
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: So what did it? What did it say? You know,

753
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: real water?

754
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: I just find that impossible.

755
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: Water buffalo, RIBI that's what it is. Yeah, water buffalo,

756
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 4: I told.

757
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: You that's what said. I was I was just as shocked.

758
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 6: Thank you.

759
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: This is this is a little more than I would like,

760
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: but it's probably been down there for a little while.

761
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that piece is actually down there when

762
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: I was down there.

763
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: It's a delicious flavor.

764
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: But it is why I told you I saw it right,

765
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: which is was wild. This is, by the way, elite lemonade.

766
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: It is awesome lemonade, delicious lemonade.

767
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: That's a BlackBerry you said, No, it is a blueberry lemonade.

768
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: Oh my, oh my god.

769
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not sweet. No, it goes back to what

770
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: I said earlier. A couple of shots of vodka in there.

771
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: Oh baby, that is really nice.

772
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 2: I would tell you that I will have to question

773
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: Lavelle myself on the veracity of this big water buffalo.

774
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: I just have never seen it on a menu. I've

775
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: never seen it offered anywhere. The idea that it would

776
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: just show up at a lunch at an NFL facility

777
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: on a Monday.

778
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: It just it feels it.

779
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: I just it feels hard to believe.

780
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: Believe you went down there and it's like, here's a koala.

781
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 5: The biggest piece of advice that I give to people

782
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 5: when they come in do a lap around. Don't just

783
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 5: get in line. By today, I was a little more

784
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 5: focused on just getting some food and getting up. Didn't

785
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 5: have a chance to make the line, miss the water buffalo. Like,

786
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 5: there's a lot of different things that you can get.

787
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 5: Don't just worry about the four or five main ones,

788
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: because sometimes there's little stuff under the radar. Some good soups,

789
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: as we all know.

790
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope we bring back that split pee with the.

791
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: In that was probably that's a top five great soup

792
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: of all time. Agreed when that the way that that

793
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: was cultivated with the with the split pea with the ham.

794
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: That wasn't all that was, it was all time, how

795
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: about right? That was a good job out of a

796
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 2: very good job out of on all three tasks. By

797
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: the way, handled in short order, very short order. You

798
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: need a recommendation, you know, right now you're in recommendation. Heaven,

799
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,320
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811
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: We're just commiserating here about the water buffalo and all

812
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: of this. He comes in to reform us in the

813
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: break of a report for me in rap report that

814
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: we have indeed acquired a kicker, Dustin Hopkins, being traded

815
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 2: to the Browns formerly of Washington and and more recently

816
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers. Z If this report is indeed true,

817
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: what exactly are we getting with mister Hopkins? Now?

818
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: Dustin Hopkins is a guy who has been the last

819
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 4: two years a pretty darn good kicker.

820
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: Last two years his field goals.

821
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: He is thirty nine of forty four, just about ninety

822
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 4: percent on field goals.

823
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: Not much of a distance kicker.

824
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: He was two for five from fifty plus last in

825
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one didn't attempt to fifty.

826
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: Yard or the year before.

827
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: But the layups are layups over the last two seasons

828
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: inside of forty yards. Inside of forty yards, he has

829
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: gone twenty two for twenty two from forty to forty nine.

830
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one, he was thirteen of fourteen from

831
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 4: forty to forty nine. Last year one of two. So

832
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 4: he's been fourteen for sixteen the last two years from

833
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: forty to forty nine as well. So the layups with

834
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: Dustin Hopkins are in fact layups twelve to twelve on

835
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 4: extra points last year as well. So he's a guy

836
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 4: he's been.

837
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: He missed games last year.

838
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he started as their kicker.

839
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: The Browns have traded a twenty twenty five seventh round

840
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: pick to the Charges for kicker Dustin Hopkins, according to

841
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: Adam Schefter sources. So that was that was a good

842
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: kicking battle. Cameron Dicker was very good last year and

843
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 4: so Hopkins is the one they were able to get.

844
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: My guess is Nick Folk's probably gonna win the job

845
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 4: there in New England, and then they did not want

846
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: to pay. My guess is you know what Robbie supposedly

847
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 4: Robby Gold was asking for a lot of money. So

848
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 4: now there you go. You got the guy in Dustin Hopkins,

849
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: and he will be your Week one kicker obviously, and

850
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 4: then the question now becomes what do they do with Kate?

851
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 4: Is it as simple as he's on the practice squad

852
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: or you try to get him the presce quad or

853
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: he stays on the fifty three because I, like I said,

854
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: I think he is going to be I think he

855
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: would be claimed. So Hopkins has had a bunch of

856
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: good years as the rookie season twenty fifteen with washing

857
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: eighty nine percent, eighty one percent in sixteen, eighty two

858
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: point four and seventeen ninety percent in twenty eighteen, eighty

859
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: three point three in twenty nineteen, seventy nine percent in

860
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, and then in twenty twenty one he ends

861
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: up going to the Chargers.

862
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: Last two years ors eighty eight.

863
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 4: Point two and ninety Yeah. Other than his he's had

864
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: four years where he's been eighty eight percent or better,

865
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 4: and he's had three years four years where he has

866
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: been in the would be in the low eighties. Worst

867
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: season was twenty twenty at seventy nine point four percent.

868
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: But other than that.

869
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he's been around ninety percent for his for

870
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: his career.

871
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: I like that he played in Washington, so he would

872
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: have played in some elements, Yeah, eighty five Philly games,

873
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: New York games, he would have played in some elements.

874
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 4: Eighty five percent fir his career. He was ninety percent

875
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: with the Chargers, which is obviously at home anyway in

876
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: a dome. So now here he comes. But you're right,

877
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: been in Washington, been in the NFC East, so he

878
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 4: has kicked in a lot of those type of situations.

879
00:41:59,120 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: And so here we go.

880
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: And so you're left as exactly the scenario you laid

881
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: out in our previous segment, what to do with kde

882
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: is it he is? You have two kickers on the

883
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: fifty three. It feels like that to me. If you're

884
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: going to keep him, If you're gonna keep him around,

885
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: that's it, and he will be claimed.

886
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: There's Yeah, you're.

887
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: Either you're either saying goodbye to him permanently and I

888
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 2: can't imagine they want to do I don't think they're

889
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: ready to do that based on his talent, or you're

890
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: carrying two kickers.

891
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think they want to

892
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: cut him. I think that there is a reason. There's

893
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: a reason that they've said, reiterated how talented he is.

894
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 4: I think somebody would claim him, Like why wouldn't you

895
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: if you're Houston.

896
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Houston, Arizona would claim him tomorrow, Like

897
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: I kick the.

898
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: Day, we'll figure it out.

899
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: What do they care? Well, that's and that's kind of

900
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: like what Arizona would be.

901
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 3: Perfect.

902
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, that's the ideal situation. Yeah, for sure. The

903
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: weekend in the NFL. And we'll have more on this

904
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: when when there is more on it. I'll just reported

905
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: at this point that the Browns have acquired Dustin Hopkins

906
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: from the Chargers for a reportedly a seventh round pick

907
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, So that that is something. There

908
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: just was no way you could go into the regular

909
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: season and do it based on what you'd seen the

910
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: last month.

911
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 4: Well here's I've got a report right now that this

912
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 4: is again I won't even say it, but we'll see

913
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: what happens with.

914
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: Giving no, yep, all right, the forty nine Ers traded

915
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: Trey Lance to the Cowboys this weekend for a fourth

916
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: round pick. So you had that deal, I thought, Kyle

917
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Shanahan had one of the more illuminating press conferences that

918
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: I've seen in recent memory. He could do so because

919
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: obviously they landed on brock Purty, but basically saying that

920
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: he feels like he did Trey wrong, that he let

921
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: him down with the way all of this went down

922
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: and some of his bad luck gets hurt and all

923
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: of that. But he goes to Dallas, which to me

924
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: look great place to live, fun play, being a cowboy.

925
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: To me, it does not seem like a place where

926
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: he's gonna be curated into being an NFL pro.

927
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 4: No, it's reading something that said that, well, the DAK

928
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 4: will be helpful to him and that they want to

929
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: have a viable option or get the chance to see

930
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 4: if he could be a viable option if contract talks

931
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: don't go the way they want with DAK.

932
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: It feels like, yeah, so that's that wasn't to me,

933
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: the spot for him was Minnesota. You play, you're under

934
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: cousins for a couple of years, it's home. O'Connell's a

935
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: great quarterback, he was a quarterbacks quarterback mentor like, to me,

936
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: that's eventually maybe you find yourself. You can play with

937
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: Jefferson and Addison, like that's a position to succeed Dallas

938
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: to me does not.

939
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think we'll see. Yeah, we'll see when

940
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 4: he gets out there or at all.

941
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: If not, go.

942
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Ahead, give oh, here you go. You're being handed a phone,

943
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: scars being handed a phone.

944
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 4: All right, that's from Mary Kay Cabot. The Browns are

945
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: in fact cutting kick or tick kde York, I'm told

946
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: first reported by the Schultz Report.

947
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: So that's what I was alluding to.

948
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: Mary Kay is saying that that is in fact true,

949
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 4: and so I guess the hope is that he gets

950
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 4: back to the practice squad.

951
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: I don't think.

952
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 4: I don't think he will, but that right, we'll see,

953
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 4: we'll see. It's a hell of a bummer, man, that's awful.

954
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 4: That's a fourth round pick. That's a fourth round pick

955
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 4: a year ago. Yeah, one year ago. You got a

956
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: third round pick two years ago. And Schwartz, who's already

957
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: been cut, was one of like, was such an early

958
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 4: cut man. I really hope that he ends up here

959
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: because I really, I truly believe this is me talking

960
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: that cave York is going to be a successful kicker

961
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: in the National Football League. And I'm sure as how

962
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: copd is is for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, and now

963
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: you think about the kickers we've drafted over the last

964
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 4: cyber not too long ago, Cybert, Zane Gonzalez before Yeah,

965
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 4: Zan Gonzalz at least left when Arizona was a Pro

966
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 4: Bowl kicker, so he had at least one really good

967
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: year he was kid for the Niners.

968
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: But I think he's hurt is growing.

969
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: Cybert. Yeah, I don't know if Cyberts even in the

970
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 4: league anymore.

971
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: We went from here and then he went to Cincinnati.

972
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 4: And then he went to uh Detroit. Yeah, I don't

973
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: think he was rafted in the fifth round. I don't

974
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 4: believe that he is currently on a football team. Last year,

975
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: last two years, he kicked in ten games for Detroit

976
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: and went thirteen for seventeen And I think.

977
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: That was that was it.

978
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's tough man. That is tough.

979
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 4: Sometimes we lament the fact that, you know, news often

980
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: comes out. It feels like after our show, this is

981
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: hard news to process in real time as well. I

982
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 4: think we were at the point where we knew, you know,

983
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: we said it, he was not going to be able

984
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 4: to be the kicker for you Week one, and so

985
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: they go and they get Dustin Hopkins according to reports,

986
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 4: and then that leads to them going in another direction

987
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 4: and sound releasing according to Mary Kay Cabot, kaid Yorke.

988
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: And so you wonder does he get back here? Does

989
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 4: he make it back? It feels like no.

990
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 2: Right, I don't see any scenario. I mean, I think

991
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 2: we laid it out like with Arizona, with Houston, any

992
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: place with a dome. I mean, everyone's got the same

993
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: data on him that we did coming out of LSU.

994
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that he's a bomber.

995
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: I mean, we draft him in the fourth round because

996
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 4: he was going to get drafted that early by something.

997
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 4: There are plenty of other teams that really liked him,

998
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: and they'll just give him a chance to say.

999
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: Wasn't you It was them? Right, That's how that'll go.

1000
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: Come into our system. We'll put you in a dome,

1001
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: we'll sort it out.

1002
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 4: That's going to be an interesting one to watch. That's

1003
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 4: going to be that's going to be an interesting.

1004
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: Thing to work. So what does that tell you then

1005
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: about I mean it seems like our fifty three we

1006
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: were off one.

1007
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: So now we're going to have so we have a

1008
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: free spot. So going back to our initial discussion, that

1009
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 4: means maybe Maurice Hurst is able to be you keep

1010
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: him and you go twenty three twenty seven, which that's

1011
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: what that would be. On defense would be twenty seven seven,

1012
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 4: which feels like a lot.

1013
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: I wonder where else could it come from over there though,

1014
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: because Dunn has already been released per reports.

1015
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 4: A fourth running back is where it could come from.

1016
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 2: Is that Felton?

1017
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 4: I think that would be a maybe. I think now

1018
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 4: you have two young guys. I think that maybe be

1019
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 4: a veteran, be a.

1020
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: Fourth back coming in. Yeah, but that all seems a

1021
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: little redundant too, to have that many backs unless one

1022
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: of them are well, it's not going to be on

1023
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: the line. It's not going to be on the line.

1024
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be on the line. It's not going

1025
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: to be in the wide receiver room.

1026
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: I don't think Austin Watkins is making the team, so

1027
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: it has that's where it would have to be unless

1028
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 4: they you know, maybe Jalen Darden gets kept because he's

1029
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: been a one he's been a return guy.

1030
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: But at this point, I.

1031
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: Mean, you haven't seen him the priest. That doesn't feel

1032
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: like no you'd have any problems just a name of

1033
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 4: the practice.

1034
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: Since Yeah, it's pretty remarkable that life comes at you fast.

1035
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, man, your kidding. That fifty eight yard

1036
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: er to beat Carolina. It's not even a year ago,

1037
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: not even a year not even a year ago. I mean,

1038
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: think about and in that game for Baker. Now Baker

1039
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: has been from Carolina. In that game, he had Kady

1040
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: York at the game winn are going against. Baker Mayfield

1041
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: is starting quarterback of the Carolina Panthers. Kady York is,

1042
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: according to the reports, not going to be a Cleveland

1043
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: Brown anymore. At least he'll have the opportunity to get

1044
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: claimed and play somewhere else. Or Baker Mayfield is not

1045
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: only not only Carolina, He's not on the next team.

1046
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: He was on the Rams, He's now on the Buccaneers.

1047
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just who. By the way, Yes played

1048
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens in the preseason finale. Was he going to

1049
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: dap it?

1050
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 3: They looked great? It was great.

1051
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: And then he had a very nice showing. He looked

1052
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 4: very good through a nice touchdown past to Chris Godwin.

1053
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, wild, wild stuff. So that's where you stand. Reportedly,

1054
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: Dustin Hopkins has been acquired reportedly Cade York will be

1055
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: cut by your Cleveland wow Man. So it's a lot

1056
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: going on here in the first hour of the program.

1057
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: Get some perspective on a running back we acquired over

1058
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: the weekend, Pierre Strong Junior. That'll be done with Tom

1059
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: current Patriots insider at NBC Sports joining us. Coming up

1060
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,479
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Speaker 2: rumpkey dot com. Breaking news here in the last twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Reportedly the Browns acquiring Dustin Hopkins kicker from most recently

1069
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers reportedly for a seventh thrownd pick

1070
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and in conjunction with that cutting

1071
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: kicker Cade York. This is all reportedly here in the

1072
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: last ten or five fifteen minutes or so. From perspective

1073
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: on a move that was made over the weekend and

1074
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: perhaps one that maybe you thought there was a possibility

1075
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: that would be happening. We had it on the Twisted

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Speaker 2: Tom Kurrent joins us one of the best in the business.

1079
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 2: He's a Patriots insider at NBC Sports in Boston. Tom,

1080
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking the time. I guess

1081
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: since I was talking you about these kickers, we were

1082
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: wondering about Folk in New England. Did did he end

1083
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: up winning that job over there? Was there is because

1084
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: we thought perhaps maybe that was a chance if if

1085
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 2: that job went a different direction.

1086
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 8: That remains TVD and I'm sorry, okay, little Windy can

1087
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 8: hear me?

1088
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 9: Okay?

1089
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, you're good, Tom.

1090
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 8: Awesome TVD. Bill Belichick is actually positive that he could

1091
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Speaker 8: indeed keep two kickers. Said that we did it last

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Speaker 8: year and maybe we would do it again. Didn't actually

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Speaker 8: say that maybe we would do it again, but he said,

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Speaker 8: you know, we did it last year. Ryland, who was

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Speaker 8: their rookie that they drafted on him a huge, huge wag.

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Speaker 8: But he's not accurate. Nick Folk I mean, is certainly

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Speaker 8: one of the three most important players in the last

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Speaker 8: few years, especially since their offense is lagged. So I

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Speaker 8: don't think Nick Folk is going to be unemployed long

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Speaker 8: If the Patriots due indeed got him loose. There's a

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Speaker 8: lot of places I think they could use a guy

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Speaker 8: who just puts it down the middle of the fairway.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly what was good for.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what you're looking for out of that position,

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Speaker 4: and the Browns obviously felt like they had to make

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Speaker 4: a move, so they did that. The Browns made another

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Speaker 4: move though over the weekend, sending Tyrone Wheatley Junior, who

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Speaker 4: I thought had a very nice preseason for the Browns

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00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: tackle in exchange for running back Pierre Strong Junior. What

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Speaker 4: can you tell us about Pierre Strong?

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Speaker 8: You know, he's fast, as he was fast back in

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Speaker 8: the draft, fastest back in the draft coming out in

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00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 8: twenty twenty two. He went to a smaller school. We

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Speaker 8: was South Dakota State. I might be wrong from computer

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Speaker 8: and I might be misremembering. Has decent enough hands and

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Speaker 8: should be able to be a weapon out of the backfield.

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Speaker 8: I just didn't see the level of elusiveness from him.

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Speaker 8: That you would hope to have. Last year, the Patriots

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00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 8: really split time between ramondre Stevenson and Damian Harris and

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Speaker 8: there wasn't a lot of carries. I think there were

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Speaker 8: only ten carries for Pierre Strong. He was in a

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Speaker 8: position where he could have really assumed the mantle is

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Speaker 8: you know, a change up back because he's a little

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Speaker 8: more slight and extremely fast. But it didn't happen. And

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Speaker 8: there was one play in particular which I said, okay,

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Speaker 8: it's your super Bowl here. I think it was against

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00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 8: the Packers in their second preseason game, like a third

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Speaker 8: and four. They hit Pierre Strong out in the flat

1129
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 8: and he was one on one with a corner, and again,

1130
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 8: it's your super Bowl. You can't be brought down by

1131
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 8: one guy if you're trying to make the team. And

1132
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 8: he and Kevin Harris, another back, were in the same

1133
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 8: position and he was taken down. You punt and that's it.

1134
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Speaker 8: So to me, once they brought in and Tli you

1135
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 8: could sell they they're like, okay, well we're kind of

1136
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 8: out on these two for now. I'm not saying that

1137
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 8: a developmental guy go ahead, but he's he could be

1138
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 8: a developmental guy and certainly make a difference because he

1139
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 8: does have that unique speed ability.

1140
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: So in terms of what you you talked about that

1141
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: he didn't show the elusiveness that that perhaps you have

1142
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: to have that match the speed right the measurables. In

1143
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: terms of the type of player is he, we haven't

1144
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: seen at all. I'm not I'm not going to sit

1145
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: here and light of your tom I'm not watching South

1146
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: the Krest State football games.

1147
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 8: I haven't seen a ton either.

1148
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: In terms of no, that's true, you haven't either, Like

1149
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: what type of player could he be at his best

1150
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: if he is developed?

1151
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 8: Okay, who was that tall back for Jacksonville a few

1152
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 8: years ago?

1153
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 6: TJ.

1154
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 8: Yeldon? Could he be TJ. Yelden? Maybe he could be

1155
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 8: a TJ. Yeldon? Okay, I'm just thinking because he's he's

1156
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 8: much more on the lean side and a wiry back

1157
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 8: and a speedback, then he is. Okay, we're going to

1158
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 8: give it to this guy between the tackles if you

1159
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 8: want to run out of spread. The reason in part

1160
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 8: the Patriots are saying goodbye to a fourth round pick,

1161
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 8: and Belichick disputed this as he's prone to do on

1162
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 8: a conference call today, is they really were trying to

1163
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 8: simplify their offense. Last year they were going to try

1164
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 8: and run some of the wide zone stuff. Really the

1165
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 8: Shanahan stuff make it simpler, so the communication post Prady

1166
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 8: was easier for players coming in to digest and assimilate to.

1167
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 8: They just were not a good wide zone team. Cole Strange,

1168
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 8: who was their first round pick, and Pierre Strong are

1169
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 8: wide zone players, so maybe there's a role. Maybe it

1170
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 8: just wasn't a role fit. And once the Patriots altered

1171
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 8: their system, it's like, well, we don't need a guy

1172
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 8: who who can't run between the tackles in kind of

1173
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 8: the gap running style.

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: And that's what we do.

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00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 4: I mean, we run the wide zone and especially out

1176
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: of the wet pull and get on the perimeter, especially

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00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 4: out of the shotgun, which it sounds like where Pierre

1178
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 4: Strong would be for the Cleveland Browns if he's able

1179
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: to do that one thing that at least and again

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00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it either, but just want to get

1181
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 4: your thoughts on this, because he had a tremendous pass

1182
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 4: blocking grade in the preseason at Pro Folo. Folks, that's

1183
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: I know, that's something the Browns care about. Great deal.

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00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 4: If you're going to be on the field you got

1185
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 4: to be able to pass protect. Was that something that

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00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 4: you noticed or is that just kind of those numbers are.

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00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 8: I'll be honest, I didn't specifically notice it. I didn't say, wow,

1188
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 8: he's a prushure. But right, Patriots are so anal about

1189
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 8: pass protection and you can't even look at the fields

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00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 8: much of us get on it. Yeah, if you don't

1191
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 8: know where you're supposed to be in pass protection, you're

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00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 8: probably going to be getting a player who is very

1193
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 8: particular and on the specifics at an NFL level about

1194
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 8: it in a way that he probably wasn't a year ago,

1195
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 8: and he was, you know, coming out of South Dakota State.

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00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 8: So you'll have a well coached player who coming from

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 8: the Patriots, even though they're lagging a bit the last

1198
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 8: couple of years, will be a player that you can say, okay, well,

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Speaker 8: at least he knows there's a seriousness level that a

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Speaker 8: companies football.

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00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: Talking with Tom Kerrn covers the New England Patriots. Tom,

1203
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you before we get to and

1204
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 4: probably gets you out of here on a question about

1205
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: the Patriots and their prospects for twenty twenty three. I

1206
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: don't know if you've heard Julian Edelman on the Kelsey

1207
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: Brothers podcast. I thought it was one of the best

1208
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 4: interviews I've ever heard, and he does a great Belichick

1209
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: impression and tells a couple of great stories, And I

1210
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 4: was just curious if has Bill even talked about that

1211
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 4: at all? Have you heard anything kind of up there

1212
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 4: about the reaction today, because I thought Edelman was great.

1213
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: No, it was with the last week.

1214
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: Last week, Yeah, a couple, Yeah, within the last sea.

1215
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 4: It's worth the listening. Yeah, you'll you'll love it.

1216
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 8: I actually wrote a book with Julian, so I'm well

1217
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 8: acquainted with his impersonation ability. Ah. Yes, he is a funny,

1218
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 8: funny guy. I'm looking forward to see him seeing him

1219
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 8: on Fluck Bill right now? Has he would just give

1220
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 8: us the Yeah? I mean, we have more important things

1221
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 8: to worry about right now that who can really impersonate

1222
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 8: me the best? I mean, I'm sure you guys all

1223
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 8: enjoy that, but yeah, I would leave that to you everybody.

1224
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 8: I see, I can't do the voice as well as

1225
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 8: I could do the walk.

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Speaker 2: You got that's it? Yeah, Tom, the this AFC. I

1227
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: mean we're in a loaded division here too. It's just

1228
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: absolute meat grinder. That AFC East got even even tougher

1229
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: this offseason. Rogers coming into the Jets, How does how

1230
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: do was how does New England, which you know for

1231
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: twenty years all they did was win everything? How do

1232
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: they how do they combat that East this year?

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Speaker 8: It's hard to envision. I mean I talked about the

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00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 8: Patriots and the off season is perhaps being the ten

1235
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 8: or eleven win team based upon the fact that they

1236
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 8: won eight games with literally offensive coaches who took away

1237
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 8: from their ability to run a successful lot.

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Speaker 9: But you bring in someone like Bill O'Brien and I

1239
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 9: do think is very good, and you're given the ability

1240
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 9: to start and reboot Matt Jones to the guy he

1241
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 9: was in twenty twenty one, and you should add two

1242
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 9: or three wins.

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Speaker 8: But again you mentioned the quality of competition. Browns fans

1244
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 8: also the Patriots, you know croake leveland last year because

1245
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 8: Jacoby preset through an early game pick and they never recovered.

1246
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 8: That was one of the few bright spots of the season.

1247
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 8: So the Patriots are counting on defense. But the only

1248
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 8: teams that they beat last year shut down were Zach Wilson,

1249
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 8: Jacoby Brissette, Sam Allinger, Jack Wilson again against the better competition.

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Speaker 8: They've struggled. You're going to see a lot of good

1251
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 8: competition this year. But I'm curious to see how these

1252
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 8: other teams actually flesh out. I think the hype surrounding

1253
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 8: those other three teams is more based on a they

1254
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 8: got these guys, they should do this, And I'll be

1255
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 8: interested to see how quickly you know, Aaron Rodgers really

1256
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 8: assimilates and the rest of the offense does you know

1257
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 8: around him? And I think that uff of the kind

1258
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 8: of going through that period, whether they're through their first

1259
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 8: iteration of being a very good team and you start

1260
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 8: to start to have to reboot who you are and

1261
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 8: maintain that identity in the edge. It's necessary and I

1262
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 8: don't think I saw that from them at the end

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Speaker 8: of last year.

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Speaker 2: Tom, you're the best man. Thank you so much for

1265
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: the time on short notice. Really appreciate it.

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01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 8: No trouble is Tyrone good be good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll like him, Yeah he is, yep,

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's good to help. Yeah. We just the Brownsers

1269
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: have so much depth to tackle that. Yeah, he'll be helpful.

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Speaker 8: It's a disaster here, then.

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Speaker 3: He will be very helpful.

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Speaker 2: He'll be very helpful.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, every tackle that's not nailed down is coming in

1274
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 8: so gad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's a good one. Got good coaching from Callahan,

1276
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: so he'll be in good shape over there.

1277
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Speaker 8: Oh, good deal, Thank you man.

1278
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: All right. That's Tom, current Patriots insider NBC Sports in Boston,

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Speaker 2: reportedly breaking news here as many many reports that the

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Speaker 2: Browns have traded for veteran kicker Dustin Hopkins from most

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Speaker 2: recently the Los Angeles Chargers a seventh round pick going

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Speaker 2: back there. Reportedly, the corresponding move would be the Browns

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Speaker 2: would be cutting kicker Kade York. Now, none of this

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Speaker 2: has become official at this point. This is all just reports.

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Speaker 2: But let's start with Hopkins Z. And you know this

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Speaker 2: happened probably about a half hour ago. Just refresh those

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Speaker 2: of you joining us. What the Browns are getting in Hopkins?

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Speaker 4: Hey guy, career eighty five percent kicker that has him

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Speaker 4: as the twentieth best madefield goal percentage in NFL history

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Speaker 4: and the eleventh best active percentage in the NFL eighty

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Speaker 4: five percent. He's been close to ninety percent the last

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Speaker 4: two years. And inside of forty yards he's automatic. Forty

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Speaker 4: to forty nine, he's very good. And then over fifty

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Speaker 4: that's not that's where he falls off a little. He's

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Speaker 4: fifty percent over fifty yards for his career. But look

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Speaker 4: at our field goal attempts this preseason. They were all

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Speaker 4: inside of fifty yards and we were not successful. So

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Speaker 4: he has been brought in here to turn that around.

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Speaker 4: The layups should be layups, and there we go. So again,

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Speaker 4: feel very badly for Kaid York and I wonder kind

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Speaker 4: of how it got here because it was they certainly

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Speaker 4: did not want to cut him. So my guess is

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Speaker 4: something changed obviously from his performance and then perhaps maybe

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Speaker 4: even from the kid himself. And we'll see again. It's

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Speaker 4: been announced now, but it doesn't necessarily have to be

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Speaker 4: you know, executed upon until four o'clock tomorrow, So there

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Speaker 4: could be a potential that maybe somebody wants to trade

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Speaker 4: for him. They're putting that out there. We see that

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Speaker 4: all the time in the LAA so interesting step there.

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Speaker 4: Everything else is kind of on as we kind of

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Speaker 4: thought they might go in terms of You know, a

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Speaker 4: lot of people are surprised about the report about Michael Dunn,

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Speaker 4: but it kind of felt like we were gonna go

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Speaker 4: with nine and that you know, Ethan Posik's a guy

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Speaker 4: who can play guard for you. James Hudson's gotten some

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Speaker 4: work there. Whipler and Harris have gotten work there. And

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Speaker 4: I think that the Browns feel like they have a

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Speaker 4: good chance to get done gossip Wes Martin. You know,

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Speaker 4: Drew Forbes depending on his Hell status to the practice squad.

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Speaker 4: So there will be a true guards in the program,

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Speaker 4: but maybe just not here on this fifty three. The

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Speaker 4: kicker one though, this is it is a surprise, and

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Speaker 4: again you feel for kid York and it's amazing to

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Speaker 4: think where we were just about a year ago in

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Speaker 4: Carolina when he hits the fifty eight yard and he's

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Speaker 4: the hero Cleveland and you think we've solved our kicker problems.

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Speaker 4: This guy's can be our kicker for decades. And now

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Speaker 4: that is not obviously, that is not obviously the case.

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Speaker 4: And so Dustin Hopkins comes in again, reliable veteran, eleventh

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Speaker 4: best active field goal percentage in the NFL, eighty five

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Speaker 4: percent kicker in ninety percent the last two years.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing seeing how quickly it's escalated, even from the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game, Like it's just with with Cad

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Speaker 2: like it just couldn't get on track this preseason. He

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Speaker 2: just couldn't get locked in, and in a way, it

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Speaker 2: was trending worse and worse, it felt like with every week.

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Speaker 2: You and I were at that practice, and then you.

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Speaker 3: Could just feel it.

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Speaker 4: You could feel, you could tension, Yeah, you could unease

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Speaker 4: the lack of confidence.

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Speaker 2: You know, and manufactured confidence. When you saw it, you

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Speaker 2: could tell it wasn't genuine.

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Speaker 4: No, and frustration the first time that Tuesday we saw

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Speaker 4: kind of that real level of frustration and I think

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Speaker 4: that that was a very concerning day and there were

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Speaker 4: a lot of important people watching that day. And then

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Speaker 4: to head go out in the game and have you know,

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Speaker 4: that first extra point which was missed, the field goal

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Speaker 4: that was blocked, I think that was that was it.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot at stake this season. I

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Speaker 4: think everybody knows it's saying.

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Speaker 2: It can't have it.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think you if you're Kevin Stefanski Andrew Berry,

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Speaker 4: you don't want you know, I don't know that I

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Speaker 4: don't think they're certainly not on the hot seat. But

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Speaker 4: you don't want your security to be linked right now

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Speaker 4: to a guy that you don't have confidence in putting

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Speaker 4: the ball through the uprights.

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Speaker 2: I think that even beyond you know their security or

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Speaker 2: all of that, and to your point, and there's I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously none of that is going on here, but just

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Speaker 2: from the standpoint of like, this is a roster that

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Speaker 2: is ready made. Yes, you can't have a position, let

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Speaker 2: alone one that is as critical as that one is

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Speaker 2: to determining wins and losses. It can't be a position

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Speaker 2: that you give second thought to. It has to be

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Speaker 2: a position to where you're coaching in a way thinking

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Speaker 2: that the automatic kicks, as we've said, the layups or layups,

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Speaker 2: anything in the forties has got to go in like

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Speaker 2: it has to, and if it's not, if there's any trepidation,

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Speaker 2: then with this roster, you just couldn't afford to go

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Speaker 2: in any other direction. You couldn't. That's why we said

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Speaker 2: what we said. We talked about this in the first

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Speaker 2: hour before you any of this was happening today. There

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Speaker 2: was no way that he could kick in the opener,

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Speaker 2: not based on what you've seen for a month like that.

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Speaker 2: You just knew they weren't going to do that. There's

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Speaker 2: too much risk. You can't open Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Of those four would it's I would bet you three

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Speaker 2: out of four of those feel like they're one score games,

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Speaker 2: and Tennessee feels like all four could be. I think

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Speaker 2: all of those are gonna come down to every single point.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee is still gonna be playing, They're gonna be tough

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Speaker 2: to be early in the season, and the other three

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Speaker 2: are gangbusters. So like, you can't those games are going

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Speaker 2: to be to the last two minutes in every single game.

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Speaker 2: You know it, Yeah, can't risk it.

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Speaker 4: No, you can't risk it. And it could be as

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Speaker 4: simple as the extra point after the first touchdown on

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Speaker 4: the opening drive. It could be as simple as you know,

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Speaker 4: the first drive stalls out and you need a forty

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Speaker 4: yarder to get on the board and get three points it.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have to just be late game field goals.

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Speaker 4: All of the kicks are important. I think every point

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Speaker 4: is going to be important over the set this season,

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Speaker 4: but especially those first five games for before the bye

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Speaker 4: weekend and the one after against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the way, that's just the way

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Speaker 4: that it is. So I like they went and got

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Speaker 4: a veteran guy. I guess you know, you heard from

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Speaker 4: Tom Kerrn that it's possible that the Patriots will keep

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Speaker 4: both Kickers like they did a year ago and keep.

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Speaker 3: Nick Folk there.

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Speaker 4: So I know the Browns must have done their due diligence.

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Speaker 4: And they felt like this made the most sense. And

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Speaker 4: people would say, well, why would he was gonna get cut?

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Speaker 4: Why would they do this way? They're guaranteed they get him, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't. You can't monkey around with this stuff.

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Speaker 4: No, they said, we identified him as somebody we want,

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Speaker 4: and we went and so it was Fulk.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Robbie Gould, who, as you've said many

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Speaker 2: times a lot of months, wants to be really compensated. Well,

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Speaker 2: who else would we mention? Was there one other name

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Speaker 2: that we was out there that we had talked about?

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Speaker 2: Mostly that was it Mason Crosby. It was mostly Fulk

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Speaker 2: and Folk was the one that would make the sense

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Speaker 2: if Belichick was going to go with one, and then

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Speaker 2: the other one that would make some sense would have

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Speaker 2: been Gold. But who knows what his interest is and

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Speaker 2: certainly what his dollar figure is that would be attached

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Speaker 2: to that. So Dustin Hopkins will come in here. He

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Speaker 2: will be your next kicker. Cade York is reportedly being cut. Again,

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Speaker 2: none of this official from us at this point. This

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Speaker 2: is all just what is being reported, and this is

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Speaker 2: there's a lot going on right now in the league.

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Speaker 2: We had talked earlier in the show as we kind

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Speaker 2: of go around some of the big headlines around the

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Speaker 2: league over the weekend, the forty nine per cent Trey

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Speaker 2: Lance of the Cowboys for a fourth round pick.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: We had talked about that briefly. To me, it makes

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Speaker 2: no sense for either the forty nine or for Lance

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Speaker 2: or the Cowboys to do that. It will go down

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Speaker 2: as one of the great what ifs in the history

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Speaker 2: of football.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean this goes down as one of

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Speaker 4: the biggest busts in terms of he gets a pass

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Speaker 4: because Party, but the decision for the no questions, there's

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Speaker 4: no question, and it Party doesn't hit the Kyle, then

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Speaker 4: they might be at a job. This would be in

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Speaker 4: trouble and Party's mister irrelevant. So it's just dumb luck. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that you land on Party. I do think it's it

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Speaker 4: would be disconcerting to me to take on a quarterback

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Speaker 4: that and I know that there were some health issues

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Speaker 4: and stuff like that, but a quarterback that couldn't maximize

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Speaker 4: their potential with Kyle would be scary to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a perfect Jerra pick to do something

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Speaker 2: like this, Well.

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Speaker 3: You kick it.

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Speaker 4: It's relatively low risk with the potential for a reward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But in terms of Lance being groomed or grown

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Speaker 2: at growth, it's hard to imagine it. There. We did

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Speaker 2: have Josh Jacobs and his hold out over the weekend

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Speaker 2: received a one year contract upwards of twelve million bucks

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Speaker 2: on that. The reality is there just isn't going to

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Speaker 2: be money for running backs the way they want it.

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Speaker 3: No, it is the reality of it.

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Speaker 4: And I think the biggest story right now in the

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Speaker 4: league is what happens, if anything, with Jonathan Taylor and

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Speaker 4: if he does not get traded. The deadline for him

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Speaker 4: to be traded is tomorrow at four as self imposed

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Speaker 4: or I don't even know who imposed that deadline.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was Miami made an offer, yep, that was rejected.

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Speaker 2: So but ersay wants does I talked to somebody from

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis last week that Ersay wanted a one.

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Speaker 4: He does, which he's not going to get.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna get.

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Speaker 3: So that's not happening because.

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Speaker 4: Remember the team that gives up not only do they

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Speaker 4: have to give up a pick that they then have

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Speaker 4: to pay him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too pronged, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Right, because he's on the last year of his rookie deal,

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Speaker 4: so you'd either have to pay a more franchise him

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Speaker 4: to guarantee that he's there next year.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot that has.

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Speaker 2: To go right, and he's coming off of injury, coming

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Speaker 2: off of injury. Yeah, so it's hard to imagine that happening.

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Speaker 2: To the surprise of No. One, CJ. Stroud named the

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Speaker 2: starting quarterback Week one in Houston. I did just assume

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Speaker 2: that that was already done. He actually looked pretty good

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Speaker 2: over the weekend, by far the best that he had looked.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of looking good, Aaron Rodgers lights out in his

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Speaker 2: do you see the ball through to Garrett Wilson Saturday?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was like Devonte game, a little look,

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Speaker 4: throws the back shoulder, he catches it as he slides.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked very good.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous they have becked in at right tackle. Rogers talked

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Speaker 2: about this post game where he said, this is something

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Speaker 2: where we showed him a lot of love and then

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Speaker 2: he reciprocated it by playing well. I think they're going

1516
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 2: to be lights out this year. I think Rogers is

1517
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: going to be great. Here's further proof that not all

1518
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: former first round picks can find a way to get

1519
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: to where they want to be with their franchises. The

1520
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: former Eagles first round pick Derek Barnett has been given

1521
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: permission to seek a trade as well other things going around.

1522
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 4: And Alex Leatherwood, who was a former first round pick

1523
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 4: of Chicago, was he I think he was a first

1524
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 4: round pick of the Raiders.

1525
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 2: I think you have that right. That was part of

1526
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 2: that Mayo.

1527
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 4: Maya disaster, yes, and was out of there quickly Chicago.

1528
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: I mean he had.

1529
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: Character stuff too, like their first round picks. He wasn't

1530
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 2: with Mayok and Gruden. We're just stupefying it just they

1531
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 2: were in the moment too. It wasn't like it was

1532
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't like you know, hindsight twenty twenty. In the moment,

1533
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: we were all like, you're doing what another story? I

1534
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 2: thought that was interesting and this is starting to get

1535
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: some traction a little bit. Kelly Stafford, Matthew Stafford's wife.

1536
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: It's actually just reading that.

1537
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 2: Was did you see that? Yeah, So she's on a

1538
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: podcast or her host sir on the Morning After and

1539
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 2: she she has written or she said on the podcast

1540
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: that Matthews having a hard time identifying with his younger

1541
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: teammates because they're all in their phones or whatever.

1542
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 4: And then on their phones they call him, sir, and

1543
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 4: he's like, I'm not a coach, like I'm a peer

1544
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 4: of yours, I'm a teammate of yours.

1545
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. Kyler is most likely to be traded,

1546
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 2: but Stafford could be there too, because they're just to me,

1547
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 2: it makes no sense for him to be there at

1548
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: this stage in his career, and they could get draft

1549
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: assets back for him from a needy team, like if

1550
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 2: he were on Atlanta. We talked about Kyler and Atlanta,

1551
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: Stafford in Atlanta with that offensive set up. What Arthur

1552
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: Smith wants to do those backs those receivers who played

1553
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: collegiately at Georgia. She's a Georgia girl like it kind

1554
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,799
Speaker 2: of all. That's one of those work that makes sense certainly,

1555
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: and keep him out of the AFC.

1556
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, send him on over all.

1557
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: Right, coming up next some context for cutdown Day and

1558
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: the roster and all of that. Z went one on

1559
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: one with Glenn Cook from Saturday. Going to have that

1560
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: for you. Coming up next. Listen to Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 2: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett coming

1563
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1564
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: You sure to catch the Browns previews show tonight at

1565
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 2: seven with Ken Karmen, Garrod Cherry and the University Hospitals

1566
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 2: cleaving the Browns Radio Network. The Voice of the Browns,

1567
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,440
Speaker 2: Jim Donovan and Brown's tight End David Njoku joined the program.

1568
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: This is from Saturday. This is ZE one on one

1569
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: with Assistant general Manager, Vice president of player Personnel Glenn Cook.

1570
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 4: Very happy now I'd be joined by Brown's assistant general

1572
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 4: manager Glenn Cook. What if you thought of this training

1573
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 4: camp that began at the Greenbrier in West Virginia and

1574
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 4: has now taken us to Kansas City.

1575
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 10: I feel like we're on the Beyonce tour of our own.

1576
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 10: You know, you've kind of gone West Virginia. Ken back

1577
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 10: to here Philly. So no, it's been good. I think

1578
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 10: Kevin talked about it, I think earlier just the amount

1579
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 10: of good work we got it, and you know, it's

1580
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,839
Speaker 10: always good to go compete against a team like Philly.

1581
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 10: So just you know, if I'm starting to finish, I

1582
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 10: think the focus on the preparation. I think all our

1583
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 10: guys that they have their minds locked in on them

1584
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 10: on week one and obviously the early part of the season.

1585
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 6: So it's been good. It's been good.

1586
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 4: If you had to use a word or two, a

1587
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 4: couple a few even if you'd like to describe kind

1588
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 4: of what this training camp was for the twenty twenty

1589
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 4: three Cleveland Browns, what would it be good question?

1590
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 10: Honestly, I would just lean into focus, you know. I

1591
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 10: think I think we set the tone by going to

1592
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 10: Greenbrier and sort of eliminating I would say distractions or

1593
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 10: just the extra curricular and it was all football, and

1594
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 10: I think our guys you never know how that can go, right,

1595
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 10: Like you can go off and sort of lose focus

1596
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 10: and look at it like one of those trips you

1597
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 10: don't want to be.

1598
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 3: A part of.

1599
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 10: But I think our guys embraced it. And really formed

1600
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 10: hopefully what the identity of this team is, which is

1601
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 10: just work right, and I think we put on what

1602
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 10: eight really good days at Greenbrier and that's kind of

1603
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 10: carried us throughout. So you know, you come back, obviously

1604
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 10: you had a chance to be in front of the

1605
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 10: fans and continue to show them the work we're putting in.

1606
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 10: But I just think it's honestly, it's been all about

1607
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 10: focus and work. Say those two words really embody what

1608
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 10: we're trying to do this year.

1609
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 4: At the toughest part of your job, I think fun

1610
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 4: is like bringing in ninety guys. The toughest part is

1611
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 4: pairing it down to fifty three and that'll have to

1612
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 4: happen by Tuesday at four pm.

1613
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 3: Then obviously some.

1614
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 4: Guys will come back on the practice squad. Is this

1615
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 4: the most talented ninety we've ever had?

1616
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 10: I think we always try to come into the season

1617
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 10: which with as much talente as we can have, and

1618
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 10: like specific to this year, yes, you know, like we

1619
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 10: feel like at every spot we brought in a lot

1620
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 10: of competition. Hopefully it's like flourished and shown throughout the games,

1621
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 10: throughout practice and look, you know, talking to us one

1622
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 10: about not being a part of the organization. You know,

1623
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 10: after the fourth game is always tough, you know, So

1624
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 10: it's just that's just you know, I don't look forward

1625
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 10: to that part of it, but we do look forward

1626
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 10: to trying to build the best you know, composite fifty

1627
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 10: three guys we can have and sixteen practice squad players hopefully.

1628
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 4: So we'll see in years past and you can correct

1629
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong. There was a lot more roster

1630
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 4: movement over the course of training camp and the preseason,

1631
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 4: and this year really only moves have had and in

1632
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 4: response to injury. It's not that you felt like you

1633
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 4: had to go out looking number one.

1634
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 3: Is that accurate? Number two? Well, then why is that

1635
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 3: the case? Yes?

1636
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 10: Right, Like I think, you know, as you evolve and build,

1637
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 10: you know, over the course of seasons, you hope that

1638
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 10: you do get to a point where you have stability

1639
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 10: across a certain piece of your roster where you're not

1640
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,520
Speaker 10: always having his turn as we as we say sometimes

1641
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 10: but look, it's it's ever going like it's it's every

1642
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 10: part of the year, every part of the season, every

1643
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 10: part of camp. We're constantly trying to take a step back,

1644
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 10: like I say often and make sure we look at

1645
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 10: it from a thirty thousand foot of view and make

1646
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 10: sure the roster is as strong as it can be, right, Like,

1647
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 10: there's only so many things you can do. But I

1648
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 10: think hopefully the fans and everyone in Cleveland knows that

1649
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 10: we try to get as creative as possible to put

1650
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 10: a really really competitive TV on.

1651
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 4: The field and to do that year after year and

1652
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 4: seeking of being creative. Recently a lot of contracts restructured,

1653
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 4: freeing up a lot of cap space. Why is that

1654
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 4: a mechanism that you guys like to utilize.

1655
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 10: Look, I think, you know, not to get specific, but

1656
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 10: I think we'll just do any and everything to try

1657
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 10: to put ourselves in position on and off the field

1658
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 10: to you know, to compete, right, And so I think,

1659
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 10: you know, like it's it's one of those those things

1660
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 10: that we identified and we'll probably do, you know, from

1661
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 10: time to time. And I know Andrew and Coop you know,

1662
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 10: in football men have control of that. But I think again,

1663
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 10: we're always trying to position ourselves. It's all about just

1664
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 10: giving ourselves the right optionality across the season to do

1665
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 10: what we need to do.

1666
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 4: Last year, d Anthony Bell was the first undrafted free

1667
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 4: agent to make the fifty three under Andrew Berry and

1668
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski this year.

1669
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 3: My mood dea.

1670
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 4: Body is a guy who's shown quite a bit. Ronnie Hickman,

1671
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 4: the safety with three interceptions already from Ohouse State, has shown.

1672
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 3: Quite a bit.

1673
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 4: At what point does it stop mattering where somebody was

1674
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 4: drafted or not drafted when you're putting together the best

1675
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 4: fifty three?

1676
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 10: I think at the point that the draft is over, right,

1677
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 10: Like at that point, you know you have to come

1678
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 10: in and earn your spot on the roster, right and

1679
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 10: so you know, we try to take that viewpoint as

1680
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 10: much as we can. And those guys have done a

1681
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 10: good job, and a lot of the guys we signed this

1682
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 10: offseason done a good job. And hopefully, you know, we've

1683
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 10: identified players who, given the number of draft picks available,

1684
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 10: didn't get an opportunity to be drafted, but you know,

1685
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 10: have the skills and capability play in the NFL. So

1686
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 10: we'll see, you know, a couple they've done they've done

1687
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 10: a nice job and they got a chance to show it.

1688
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 4: When a guy like Austin Watkinson, we'll find out if

1689
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 4: there's room or not for him. But when a guy

1690
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 4: goes out there and you've given him an opportunity and

1691
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 4: they make the absolute most of it, whether it has

1692
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 4: the happy fairy tale ending or not here with the

1693
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, hopefully, if not here, somewhere else for him.

1694
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 4: Is that one of the things that's cool in your profession.

1695
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 4: Somebody said, you know, let's give him the shot, and

1696
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 4: then he comes out and he does what he has

1697
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 4: done in the preseason and given him a chance to

1698
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 4: earn a living doing what he loves to do.

1699
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 10: So I think, first for them, right like the players,

1700
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 10: because I think we I say we you know when

1701
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 10: you when you play the game, you have this probably

1702
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 10: deep confidence in yourself that you belong right And so

1703
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 10: I think seeing him go out and probably prove probably

1704
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 10: to himself and to others that you know, I can

1705
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 10: play in this league, that's great for him and then

1706
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 10: selfishly for us in our in our jobs specifically, this

1707
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 10: is what we're.

1708
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 6: Trying to hear.

1709
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 10: We're trying to find, like, who's that guy that has

1710
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 10: not been identified by other teams or who hasn't been

1711
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 10: put in the position to go out and produce in

1712
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 10: a way that we.

1713
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 6: Think they can.

1714
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 10: And so to see him, like you said, irrespective if

1715
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 10: he makes the team here or anywhere else, to see him,

1716
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 10: you know, have that level of success in flourish. Just

1717
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 10: that's just awesome, right, Like that's to me outside of

1718
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 10: anything else, Like it's awesome to see people live out

1719
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 10: you know that part of this game. That's what makes

1720
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 10: this game awesome. You know, that's what makes it fun.

1721
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 6: So, yes, it's it's dope.

1722
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 10: Like he's shoot one of the most productive receivers in

1723
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 10: the preseason this year, let alone just with our team.

1724
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 10: So I think he's trying to stake his claim. I'll

1725
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 10: give him that, no doubt.

1726
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 4: He certainly is from a guy like from a guy

1727
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 4: like Austin Wackin, so a guy like Shelby Harris. That

1728
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 4: was kind of the one or move we made into camp.

1729
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 4: He joined the team ten year veteran. He was on

1730
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 4: Browns Daily with me on Thursday and we asked him,

1731
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, one of the reasons, why did you choose

1732
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 4: to come to the Browns And he gave probably the

1733
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 4: most candid answer I've ever heard, And actually I thought

1734
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 4: it was very interesting. In addition to oh, I get

1735
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 4: to play with Miles and Zadarius and Dalvin and all

1736
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 4: of that, and that he thinks his team's going to win.

1737
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 4: From a football site, he said he loved the way

1738
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 4: that this organization handled everything, inviting his wife to come

1739
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 4: here on the visit with him, the fact that there

1740
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 4: are females in big roles, including your assistant GM counterpart,

1741
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 4: cat Race. So I thought that was so interesting to

1742
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 4: hear that that mattered. I don't know if you guys

1743
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 4: had even gotten that feedback from him or not, but

1744
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 4: just kind of curious to hear. You know, you talk

1745
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 4: about finding these diamonds in the rough, but then you

1746
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 4: have a guy who's been the league as long as

1747
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 4: he's been and he gets to choose. He truly is

1748
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 4: a free agent. He gets to make the decision, and

1749
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 4: that it was a combination of just football organization, philosophy, empowerment,

1750
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 4: all of it that led Shelby Harris to come to

1751
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 4: the Browns.

1752
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1753
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, across football obsously, you've tried to establish

1754
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 10: just that level of culture and mindset that look, all

1755
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 10: those things are important, right like family, football, faith. You know,

1756
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 10: we're trying to lean into as much as we can

1757
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 10: as an organization.

1758
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 6: So we I had not heard that at least so

1759
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 6: to hear that.

1760
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 10: You see, you know, some nuggets of success when it

1761
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 10: comes to things like that, and that's what we're trying

1762
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 10: to do. We're trying to establish a culture here of that, right,

1763
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 10: like where everyone feels embraced and that they know they'll

1764
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 10: be able to come here and be their best selves

1765
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 10: and that will support them, support their families, and support

1766
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,959
Speaker 10: the things that they want to accomplish as an individual

1767
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 10: and then hopefully like as a football team, right because

1768
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 10: it still is about winning, and I think he hopefully

1769
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 10: sees that, like that's what we're mostly about, just trying

1770
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 10: to win as many games as we can for the

1771
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 10: fans of Cleveland, competing in this really really tough division

1772
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 10: and honestly just the NFL as we know it.

1773
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 6: So that's cool to hear. I had not heard that.

1774
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 3: How excatary for September tenth.

1775
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 10: It's fine, man, Like I mean, I've talked about this

1776
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 10: for the last couple of weeks, like, look, it's tough, right,

1777
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 10: like we have you know, Sincy and not to get

1778
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 10: too far ahead, but you know, since he the Steelers

1779
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 10: Tennessee Baltimore, we get our full division in the first

1780
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 10: three to four weeks.

1781
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 6: Look, we'll see where we are right, Like, you get

1782
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 6: to play the best of the best.

1783
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 10: It's a really tough division for a reason, so I

1784
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 10: wouldn't want to see it any other way. Like we

1785
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 10: want to go out and compete, but we know we

1786
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 10: have to focus, get prepared, you know, finish out the

1787
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 10: preseason first and foremost, and then like lock in like

1788
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 10: it's gonna be you know, hopefully the statum's rocking on

1789
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 10: this Sunday, so we'll.

1790
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 4: See it will be Glenn, thanks so much for the time.

1791
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: For sure that that dude's good. Rocket ship man, that guy,

1792
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 2: he'll be very impressive.

1793
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 3: He'll be a GM.

1794
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 4: Sure, got a couple of interviews this cycle. It'll probably

1795
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 4: be a GM next year. I think both he and

1796
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 4: Katherine Rache will be GMS in this league.

1797
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: Yep, feels like it. We do have some news. We've

1798
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 2: released some things officially now.

1799
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Browns have made it official that they

1800
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 4: have required Dustin Hopkins for the twenty twenty five to

1801
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 4: seventh round pick. They have placed on the reserve non

1802
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 4: football illness Drew Forbes. Okay, and they have terminated the

1803
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 4: contract of West Martin. So you can put it in

1804
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 4: stone now. Because the four guards on this roster were

1805
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 4: Drew Forbes. He's on the reserve list. Michael Dunn reportedly

1806
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 4: was released. Wes Martin contract terminated, Colby Gossett contact contract terminated.

1807
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 4: So there will be nine unless a guard on the

1808
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 4: initial fifty three an offensive line, and then perhaps the

1809
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 4: guard will come somewhere else. But my guess is they

1810
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 4: think they'll be able to get one other two of

1811
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 4: these guys back to the practice squad.

1812
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: And this is, you know, so the thing here in

1813
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: terms of what is probably a little different than where

1814
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 2: we thought we would be even coming out of mini camp,

1815
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 2: is the idea that Whippler was someone that would just

1816
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 2: outperformed what he was as a prospect, and so that

1817
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: forces this hand and that and then Nick Harris and.

1818
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,440
Speaker 4: Nick Carris has come back and has been been great, awesome.

1819
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: Right, so you essentially, I mean, my guess is if

1820
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: you were to ask Bill Callahan, he would tell you

1821
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 2: he has three starting offensive three starting centers in the

1822
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: league's probably what he has. Whipler will turn into that,

1823
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 2: Harris already is that, and obviously Posik is that. So

1824
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 2: he's got three starting centers he was They're not going

1825
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,560
Speaker 2: to risk one of those guys for that because the

1826
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: high end on those guys is is very is there?

1827
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 3: Yes?

1828
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 4: So what again we talked about it. It just becomes

1829
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 4: interesting that you could be at a situation where you're

1830
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 4: at twenty three on offense twenty seven on defense right now.

1831
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 4: Or maybe that's it is a fourth running back that

1832
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 4: they're looking for. Maybe it's a specialist, a seventh receiver

1833
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 4: that they're looking for as well to maybe you know

1834
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 4: Garden as we talked about as a name, has some speed,

1835
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 4: could be a kick returner. But I feel like you're

1836
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 4: kind of here with the twenty three and then they

1837
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 4: maybe this is a way to not let Maurice Hurst

1838
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 4: be exposed. Because for people to understand practice squad, here's

1839
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 4: how works. If you're not on the initial fifty three,

1840
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 4: you're cut. If you're on your rookie contract or have

1841
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 4: not become a vested veteran in the league, you then

1842
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 4: go through the waivers process. That means that you can

1843
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 4: be claimed by any other team, and when they claim you,

1844
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 4: that means they're putting you on their fifty three, and

1845
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 4: you've got to be on their fifty three. I think

1846
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 4: for like three weeks something like that At a minimum.

1847
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 4: If nobody claims you and you're still not a vested veteran,

1848
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 4: then you become a free agent and you can sign

1849
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 4: with whatever team you want. And most likely it means

1850
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 4: you're gonna signing with the team's practice squad, because if

1851
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 4: a team wanted to sign you to their fifty three,

1852
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 4: you would have been claimed if you're a someone who

1853
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 4: has their contract terminated. So that's a Wes Martin. We

1854
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 4: saw that language with Colby Gossit. We saw that the

1855
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 4: language Jordan Wilkins. That means you're just a free agent.

1856
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 4: Once you're a contract start, you're a free agent. You

1857
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 4: don't go through the waiver process. So any of those

1858
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 4: guys are eligible to sign with another team if another

1859
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: team wants them now, or they are eligible to sign

1860
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 4: with a practice squad following the fifty three person cutdowns.

1861
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 4: So that's where that will all. That's how that all works.

1862
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 4: So for example, in cutting Kide York because he's on

1863
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 4: his rookie contract, if any of the thirty one other

1864
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 4: teams want to claim him to their fifty three, they can.

1865
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 4: If nobody claims them to their fifty three, he would

1866
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: then be free to sign with if any team is

1867
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 4: practice squad, including our own. I will say again, and

1868
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 4: I know this, we kind of got this one on

1869
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 4: air and it was definitely shocking, and you know, shout

1870
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 4: out to I think Short schulzer Port and then Brad

1871
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 4: Stainbrook locally was were the first people that had kid

1872
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 4: being released that the Browns very much wanted to keep

1873
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 4: him in the program, and I think everything that you

1874
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 4: had heard leading up to that, I think they must

1875
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 4: have felt once they got Hopkins, there was no way

1876
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 4: that they were going to keep two on the fifty three,

1877
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 4: and so I think they had to make a very

1878
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 4: tough decision.

1879
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 3: But that it's hard to get that as shape.

1880
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 4: That was a shift from what was recently the thought

1881
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 4: for sure.

1882
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 2: The other thing that is interesting is is as you

1883
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,919
Speaker 2: as we were going through the numbers on the potential

1884
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 2: of the of the fifty three, it's hard you almost

1885
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: have to force more than twenty three.

1886
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 4: Well you could have got Michael done.

1887
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, but there that's already what it mean is

1888
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 2: like we knew that stuff reportedly had happened. Sure by

1889
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: the time we were doing this, right when you try

1890
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: to like Austin Watkins is kind of the the guy

1891
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: but that's just not it. He never ran with the ones.

1892
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,799
Speaker 2: He never no, so like that's not there's really nowhere

1893
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 2: to go, it's it's on the other side once you started.

1894
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 2: Once these guards started to be reportedly released, there wasn't

1895
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 2: anywhere else offensively on the roster where you would add

1896
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: an extra player other than kicker, which led us to

1897
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 2: our talk earlier. But that's obviously long pass. So then

1898
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: you end up back at detackle.

1899
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so my guess is that this is gonna put

1900
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 4: Murray's Hurst onto the fifty. He was really good its

1901
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 4: the preseason.

1902
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 2: He was great at Michigan. Man, he's good early with

1903
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 2: the Raiders, like.

1904
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, seven a half sacks's first two seasons, so that

1905
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 4: frees up an ability to be there. So really kind

1906
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 4: of the spots are you don't know what's happening with

1907
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 4: kunashik It's the fifth defensive tackle, it's the sixth linebacker,

1908
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 4: it's the sixth corner. Like this paves the way, in

1909
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 4: my opinion, for Mike Ford to make it. You know,

1910
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 4: Ronnie Hickman I think would make it, but they could

1911
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 4: they could also risk that and then have you know,

1912
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 4: all of it. So fourth running back, though, I still wondered.

1913
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 4: Like Pierre Strong, he feels like another developmental guy. My

1914
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 4: guess is he somebody the Browns had on their board

1915
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 4: higher than Jerome Ford because he went in the fourth round.

1916
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 4: They were clearly familiar with him. Yeah, they trade for

1917
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 4: him this year. Remember Ford was a fifth round pick

1918
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 4: a year ago. But you still don't have any proven

1919
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 4: behind Nick Chubb. Like I still think that there is

1920
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 4: some value in having somebody who has been at least

1921
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 4: rushed in the league. And now maybe Jordan Wilkins comes

1922
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 4: back on the practice squad because that was just kind

1923
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 4: of a strange game that unfolded for him. He was

1924
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 4: still somehow Pro football focuses top graded brown in that game.

1925
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're number there's sometimes the numbers.

1926
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 3: Deceive yes, and that would be that would have been

1927
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 3: one of the.

1928
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Most would have been one of those, certainly. All right,

1929
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: so much more to come. He listen to Cleveland Runs

1930
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1931
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bett coming

1932
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,480
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1933
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: All right, recapping pretty newsworthy day here. Obviously the headliner

1934
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: will be Dustin Hopkins coming in to kick for the Browns,

1935
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: reportedly forty seventh round pick, reportedly kaid Yorke to be released.

1936
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 2: As a corresponding moved there Cad a fourth round pick

1937
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 2: from a year ago, who, of course hit the game

1938
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: winner in Carolina to start last year and was an

1939
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 2: instant sensation. I mean it was the stuff of legend.

1940
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 2: His warm ups at Cleveland brown Stadium. Oh man, yeah,

1941
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 2: you go down there and bomb those through.

1942
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Speaker 4: I got a stat for you from my good friend,

1943
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Speaker 4: cleve Ta said. Dustin Hopkins is sixteen of eighteen on

1944
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Speaker 4: game winning or tying field goals in the final two

1945
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Speaker 4: minutes of a game more overtime in his career. One

1946
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Speaker 4: of the two misses was a sixty two yarder, which

1947
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Speaker 4: is a that's a big ask. Besides injury. Has been

1948
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Speaker 4: a Day one starting NFL kicker every year since twenty

1949
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Speaker 4: and fifteen. So the Brown's clearly saying we need something

1950
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Speaker 4: a little more reliable. As I said earlier, eighty five percent.

1951
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Speaker 4: He is the eleventh has the eleventh best career field

1952
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Speaker 4: goal percentage of any kicker that is active, twentieth best

1953
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Speaker 4: all time, and he is the last two years basically percent.

1954
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Speaker 2: We've said all day on the show. The layfs just

1955
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Speaker 2: have to be layups. I mean, that's it. And so

1956
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Speaker 2: he'll hit the ones forty to forty nine. That allows

1957
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Speaker 2: you to coach the game, and you want to coach it.

1958
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Speaker 3: He will not miss inside of forty. He is now

1959
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Speaker 3: twenty two the last.

1960
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Speaker 2: So that's that is the requirement of all of this.

1961
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Speaker 2: Our guy, Josh Dobb's going to be starting. It looks

1962
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Speaker 2: like in Arizona as you have Colt McCoy being released

1963
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 2: and Kyler Murray with an injury designation. My hunch would

1964
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Speaker 2: be that Murray doesn't play at all this year and

1965
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Speaker 2: is traded at some point.

1966
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Speaker 3: Agreed.

1967
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Speaker 2: Do you see Caleb Williams Pack twelve Network on on

1968
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Speaker 2: Saturday Night?

1969
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Speaker 4: I am a big PAC twelve guy, but Peckwell doesn't.

1970
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Speaker 2: It's almost snap like yeah, the flat footage. Yeah pretty good. Yep,

1971
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Speaker 2: gonna be good. All right, The next level is coming

1972
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Speaker 2: up next. Thanks for listeningybody, Cleveland Brons Daily, eight fifty

1973
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Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland.

1974
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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

1975
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1976
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