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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Rashwan McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of

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Speaker 1: It's time to start reading other people's success stories really

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Speaker 1: guest is Judge Faith Jenkins. She's an attorney arbitrary arbitrary

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Speaker 1: arbitrator Arthur and Emmy nominating host of Divorce Court. That's

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Speaker 1: where you know her. That Faith looks familiar, that sounds

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Speaker 1: famili That is her. Had the good fortune of meeting

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Speaker 1: her several years ago with my good friend, attorney civil

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Speaker 1: him there and I've been watching her from afar, just

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Speaker 1: admiring her rise in this industry. She's on the longest

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Speaker 1: Kill a Relationship with Faith Chinkins. I'll tell you I

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Speaker 1: love those type of shows. It airs on Oxygen. The

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Speaker 1: going to die. We're going to talk about her career

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Speaker 1: and both those shows, but let me tell you why

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Speaker 1: she really owned money making Conversation Masterclass. I also want

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Speaker 1: to talk about how relationship book sys don't settle, how

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Speaker 1: Please work with the money Making Conversation masterclass. Judge Faith Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Judge? However, Sean, how are you? Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for welcoming. That was an amazing introduction.

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Speaker 1: And I know that you know we started this business,

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Speaker 1: new book. But let's go back to the first really

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Speaker 1: because this is entertainment. Well, what happened is I was

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Speaker 1: And then the George Zimmerman trial happened, right and I

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Speaker 1: they tell you what their goals are, when they tell

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Speaker 1: you where they are right now and their life path.

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Speaker 1: Accept it. So if that's not where you are, then

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Speaker 1: it's time for you to pivot and go in another direction.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I talk about in the book. When

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Speaker 1: you talk about opening, honest communication, when someone tells you,

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Speaker 1: believe them and then decide you can go in a

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Speaker 1: different direction. If you're not on the same life path

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Speaker 1: at that point, well you know I talk about it

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Speaker 1: in my opening. I always talk about don't let you

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Speaker 1: for in the co workers stop you from playing or

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Speaker 1: living your dreams. That's what your book is about. You know,

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Speaker 1: don't let people tell you that you're thirty, you're out

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Speaker 1: or that you know that you can't get to reclaimed.

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Speaker 1: But I think the book that I got the most

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Speaker 1: out of your book, you know, systn't sell How to

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Speaker 1: Stay how to Stay Smart than the Matters of the Heart,

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Speaker 1: was that the decisions you make should be the decisions

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Speaker 1: that justify your path. Like you said, you got married

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Speaker 1: in forty in the age of forty, and people will

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Speaker 1: people end and that you're attractive, you're successful. Then they

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Speaker 1: put that old thing, what's the problem, and then they

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Speaker 1: start making like you the problem. And so so this

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Speaker 1: book tells you stop all that madness. I am not

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Speaker 1: the problem. I have control of my life and I

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Speaker 1: will meet the right person that understands who I am

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Speaker 1: as a person that really was was singing out and

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Speaker 1: really was the champion. Message that I took away from

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Speaker 1: chapter after chapters that you know, women, especially this day

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Speaker 1: and age with social media, with you being able to

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Speaker 1: crack the glass ceiling, being able to women are the fastest,

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Speaker 1: especially Black women the fastest growing. And I'm gonna tell you,

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Speaker 1: by the way, this book is not women written for

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Speaker 1: Black women, white women. It's women for women. So this

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Speaker 1: is not a racial book. This is a book that

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Speaker 1: allows you to see that we all women have to

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Speaker 1: deal with the same issues. We all need to be

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Speaker 1: able to cultivate the same understanding that we can be successful.

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Speaker 1: And reading this book system settle how to stay smart

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Speaker 1: in the matters of the heart allows you that journey.

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Speaker 1: That is what my takeaway was. And and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to bring you on the show. I know we're we

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Speaker 1: talked about the dvorce cord and you know, kill a relationship,

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Speaker 1: but I just had that and I want to support

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Speaker 1: this book. I want to put put the you know

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Speaker 1: this part of the snippets of this interview on our

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Speaker 1: social media just to drive traffic and let people know

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Speaker 1: this is a book that that's a must read us.

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Speaker 1: It's a quality read and you will take away nuggets

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Speaker 1: that I think that will make you honestly feel not

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Speaker 1: so disappointed in your life or a loan in your experiences,

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Speaker 1: right right, And that's why I wrote it. Everything you

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Speaker 1: said is why I wrote it because this is something

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Speaker 1: that I would have wanted to read as a single person,

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Speaker 1: as a person who wanted to learn more about relationships.

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Speaker 1: Because we're always trying to educate ourselves. That's why we read,

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Speaker 1: That's why we listen to the podcast, That's why we

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Speaker 1: watch shows like yours, because we are trying to educate

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Speaker 1: ourselves so that when we move forward, we can make

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Speaker 1: better decisions. When you know better, you do better. And

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Speaker 1: so that's why I wrote about this book. I want

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Speaker 1: people to use it as a practical guide to attract

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Speaker 1: the kind of relationship they really want and deserve in

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Speaker 1: their life. She's an incredible legal mind, you know as

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Speaker 1: the host of Divorce Courts. She has her own production company,

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Speaker 1: so now she's producing television shows kill a relationship with

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Speaker 1: Facing Genkins. Now she's an incredible author. Her book, Relationship Book, says,

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Speaker 1: don't settle how to stay smart in the matters of

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Speaker 1: the heart. Guys, pick it up. It's a must read

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Speaker 1: for you too, because we all need to know how

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Speaker 1: they're thinking. Oh they're thinking too okay, and if you

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Speaker 1: understand how they think, you could probably get the right

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Speaker 1: mate in your life. Faith Jenkins, thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: excuse me, Judge Faith Jenkins, thanks for coming on my show. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Rashwan. It's great to see you again. And

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Speaker 1: I will support this. I'm telling you I will, all right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much. If people wanted to

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Speaker 1: hear see any interviews of money on any money Interviews

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Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversations Masterclass, please go to Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation dot com. I'm with Sean McDonald. I am your host.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll be right back with more Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You are now tuned into

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Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm ra Shan McDonald for Money Making Conversations Masterclass with

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Speaker 1: your daily Manage of Inspiration. I sat down with the

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Speaker 1: founder of the Lift Bar, Melissa Butler. She shared the

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Speaker 1: importance of HBCUs and how I attending wanted to change

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Speaker 1: your life. Family changed my life. Before I got to

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Speaker 1: fam you, I didn't know how culturally diverse Black people are.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what made us special. And you know,

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Speaker 1: when you grow up, you always hear that. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have to work twice as hard. And I think

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Speaker 1: at an institution like FAMU and like other HBCUs. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're surrounded by black excellence, so it doesn't become something

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Speaker 1: that you have to strive for. It becomes your default.

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Speaker 1: Fam you taught me how to make excellence my default,

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Speaker 1: and it taught me how to have just cry and

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Speaker 1: the diversity of black people. And you can listen to

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Speaker 1: this full interview with Melissa Buttberg. It's available on money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations dot com. Now let's return to money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Please work with Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations master Class. The franchise owner of a Nothing Bumpcake location,

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Speaker 1: CHARLISHI Bands. How do you know, charl I'm wonderful. How

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Speaker 1: are you resigned? I'm happy to be here. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me. Well, first of all, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the relationship. You know, in my business, somebody had delivery

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Speaker 1: gifted me your prominent and I was happy. Body know

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Speaker 1: what they followed it. The didn't know I love sweets,

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Speaker 1: and I immediately invited you because I asked you, I said,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I'm gonna be honest with I stereotyped it.

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Speaker 1: I thought she was just a delivery person. She said, No,

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Speaker 1: I am the owner of this location. I went wow,

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Speaker 1: and I said, can you come on my show? And

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Speaker 1: we've been going back and forth because your schedule has

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Speaker 1: been busy, and finally you're able to come my man

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Speaker 1: show in Black History. Mon. Yes, yes, it's proud and

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Speaker 1: talk about what you do it. Let's talk about before

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Speaker 1: you made this decision, Charlie to be a franchise. So

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Speaker 1: a little background. I'm a CPA. So I've been in

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Speaker 1: accounting my whole life. Always knew I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: an accountant from Philadelphia. I went to Temple University for

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Speaker 1: my undergrad and accounting had a taxation class, and like,

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Speaker 1: I want to do taxes, So I went and got

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Speaker 1: my Masters in taxation and m That's what I did.

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Speaker 1: So I was a tax accountant for most of my life,

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Speaker 1: and I thought I would do that for the rest

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Speaker 1: of my life. I'm gonna tell you something I am

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Speaker 1: afraid to do. Tame. I would degree in mathematics. Cannot

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Speaker 1: I'm even an easy for them. I get nervous that.

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Speaker 1: I swear to you, I will go to H and

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Speaker 1: R whatever whatever about that don't tax I would take

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Speaker 1: it easy for them. You look, you know, just just

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Speaker 1: do this on you. So for you, I am like

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Speaker 1: borrowing down to you to say, because you're confidently saying this, taxes,

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Speaker 1: that's what I do. I do taxes, taxes. When you

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Speaker 1: look at it, the guy and I'm the people tell me.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty smart and my degree, you know, I may

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Speaker 1: be easily, but I swear to you I will not

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Speaker 1: do my taxes. I've never ever done my taxes because

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Speaker 1: they intimidate me, intimid the whole process of making a

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Speaker 1: mistake intimidated. Yeah, and so, but so that means that

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Speaker 1: you have to be a confident person then right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Um, the law changes often, so you're always

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Speaker 1: doing your continuing education credits and understanding the new laws

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Speaker 1: and you know once you and don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 1: I started out as a personal tax return preparer, and

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Speaker 1: when I moved to Atlanta, I decided I want to

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Speaker 1: be a business tax return prepare And I was totally

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Speaker 1: intimidated by that. Okay, um, but I googled a CPA.

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Speaker 1: I called her, I told her, listen, I want to

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Speaker 1: work for free. I don't know business taxes. Can I

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Speaker 1: please come to your office and you teach me. And

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Speaker 1: I learned for free, just free, free, free, free, free, free.

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Speaker 1: So she's said, uh, yeah, so because she asked for

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Speaker 1: your resume and she saw, I'm gonna get this person

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Speaker 1: this skills a temple graduate for free, knowing what your

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Speaker 1: ultimate goal was exactly. So she um, it's a huge

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Speaker 1: mentor for me. And so I learned business taxes and

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Speaker 1: I had a corporate job. That's how I moved to

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Speaker 1: Atlanta from Philly. UM large bank made me an offer

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Speaker 1: that I couldn't refuse. So packed up, you know, a

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Speaker 1: little jeep and I moved to Atlanta. UM found an

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Speaker 1: apartment three days later. And Tucker, So, Tucker has been

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Speaker 1: where I moved to first, at my first home, had

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Speaker 1: my first job, job, and now the Bakries and Tucker.

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Speaker 1: So I have a deep roots with Tucker Tucker Georgia

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Speaker 1: because it syndicated national. Yes, yes, Georgia, Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: Now let's let's talk about that. The differences, you know,

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Speaker 1: because we always talking about fear on this show. You know,

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Speaker 1: you you moved, you know, you are all female, you know,

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Speaker 1: transitioning from another major market to another major market. But

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Speaker 1: it is northeastern NATA South. Were there any what were

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Speaker 1: the fears and making that move that decision to come

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta because there were something there were a lot

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Speaker 1: of fears, UM, but I was done with Philly. You know,

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Speaker 1: I needed to change, So I kind of left it

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Speaker 1: open to where the job opportunity took me. So DC, California,

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Speaker 1: there were all options, sexes. So when the door opened

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta, I was like, well, that is where I

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Speaker 1: need to be. So I came confidently with fears of

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Speaker 1: what if I don't do well at this job? If

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Speaker 1: you know, what if? What if? What if? But I

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Speaker 1: was like, I could always go back to Philly. You

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Speaker 1: know all my fears in Philly. So do you know

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Speaker 1: that's um always was a fallback plan if it had

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Speaker 1: to be, but never looked back. I remember when I

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Speaker 1: left IBM to pursue a stand up career, and I

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Speaker 1: left on great terms. In fact, I tell people when

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Speaker 1: The Showman, I was in tears when I made that

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Speaker 1: decision a year in advance, because it was such an

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Speaker 1: emotional decision that even though that knew working for IBM

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Speaker 1: was not my future, it just didn't It didn't excite me.

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Speaker 1: I felt I saw myself being blocked in creatively, and

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Speaker 1: I went, Okay, this is not me and so because

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Speaker 1: they had a successful model and they wanted people to

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Speaker 1: grow in that model, and I wanted to do things

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Speaker 1: outside of that model, and I went, nah, this is

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Speaker 1: not me. But I know for a year, I kept

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Speaker 1: thinking I can always go back, you know. And then

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Speaker 1: finally I said stop, stop, stop that theory security blanket away,

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Speaker 1: and stop that theory that you can go back. And

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Speaker 1: because that's not why you left. You left to pursue

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Speaker 1: your dreams. And that's right, that's key right there. You

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Speaker 1: left Philadelphia to pursue your dreams, and in doing so,

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Speaker 1: you had to take away that thought process. When did

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Speaker 1: you take away that thought process that I had that

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Speaker 1: you could always go back. Well, to make it even more,

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Speaker 1: you know, I took a temp position at this bank.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even have a signed contract. I took a

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Speaker 1: temp job and took a leap on faith. So once

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Speaker 1: I proved myself because I was confident, I was like,

644
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Speaker 1: I can do the work right. I got a full

645
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Speaker 1: time contract, a fount my apartment, started building my network

646
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: or friends, and I was like, this is my home now,

647
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Speaker 1: you know. And so so you did free work. We're

648
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: gonna come back after this break because you got a

649
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Speaker 1: lot of talking. We didn't even talk about an Her

650
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: story is so interesting. But you're the perfect guest for

651
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: the show because I want people to hear how it

652
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: seems simple, it seems difficult, but fear drive so many

653
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: people from reaching their their ultimate dream. And it was

654
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: walking away. You know. I know that I've walked away

655
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: from a lot of levels. It's a lot of people,

656
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: and you always seen and people have called me a

657
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: renaissance man, and sometimes I don't know what that means,

658
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: but when they look at my resume, go, you did this,

659
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: you do this, you did this, and you've been good

660
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: at all these things. And I say, because everything I

661
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: do I have done in my life I wanted to

662
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: do it. How are you doing, Victoria? You're calling in

663
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: a money making conversation master class and you're speaking to

664
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Speaker 1: me and charlish your bass. What can I what are

665
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: you talking about? What question can we ask me? Up?

666
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: You with good evening? Good evening? How are you good? Good? Um? Okay?

667
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: So UM, I was just listening and I just want

668
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: to come in you um for taking the chance from

669
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: moving from the Northeast and then I coming to Atlanta

670
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: and all that. Um was there ever a time in

671
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: your life where you didn't have it all together like

672
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: me and like you, you couldn't hold on some money

673
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: and it would just liquid it. And Victoria, I'm a CPA, right,

674
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna count and I take care of everybody's money. However,

675
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: Georgia Power had me no lights one day when I

676
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: came home. Okay, so you know, Rashaw I was talking

677
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: about saving and how you wish you could, you know,

678
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: save and put things away. It was so easy for

679
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: me to tell my clients, Yeah, you need to save,

680
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: you need to put ten percent here, you need to

681
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: do you know, but just keeping it real. It's hard

682
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: to implement those things when you financially are and where

683
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: you want to be. So absolutely the struggle was absolutely real,

684
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: and I just think the key to it was just

685
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: stand in my lane. You know a lot of my

686
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: friends was like, Oh, we're going out, We're going out. Nope,

687
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: not me, not tonight. You know, you know, you have

688
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: to sacrifice a lot of things in order to get

689
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: to where you need to be. So, like Rashawn said,

690
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: if you don't have a plan, you can't you know.

691
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: I had a spreadsheet that I opened up every morning

692
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: when I was in Corporate America, and it was my debt.

693
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: I had all my credit cards on the spreadsheet. I

694
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: had a payment breakdown on how I was going to

695
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Speaker 1: get each balance to zero, and I was committed to

696
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: the two hundred dollars here to two fifty year, one

697
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty year, the saying, oh I got a

698
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: zero balance on my Discover card, let me use that

699
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: ten thousand from there, pay down my master card and

700
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: then I got zero interests on the bald. You know,

701
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: it was just maneuvering and figuring out, but having the

702
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: plan and being committed to the plan, and that's how

703
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: I was able to get myself out of that credit card.

704
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: That that is inevitable when you don't come from money

705
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: and you have an undergrad degree, you have a master's degree.

706
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: You know, you move and you're by yourself. You don't

707
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: really have that family support system. So no, it was

708
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: absolutely real and I just had to sacrifice. Victoria did

709
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: she happy out with that answer? We would think and

710
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: I ask how how would I how would I be

711
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: able to um being part of the franchise of are

712
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: you just? Are you saying that nothing? Bunt Cakes is

713
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: offering franchise opportunities absolutely. Um. You know, I speak to

714
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: a lot of potential new franchisees and a lot of

715
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: them are very intentional. I want to open a nothing Buntcakes.

716
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Speaker 1: That was not my story of Victoria. Nothing bunt Cakes

717
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: was not necessarily the plan. The plan was to open

718
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: a bakery and Tucker in this new plaza that needed

719
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: a bakery. So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna bring

720
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: a bakery to Tucker. We don't have a bakery. I

721
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: had a client that had a different bakery franchise, so

722
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: it was initially going to be something else. And when

723
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: that didn't work, the landlord is looking at me. He's like, hey, Charlie,

724
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: where's that bakery you're bringing. I'm scrambling, you know, like,

725
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: oh jesus, I'm googling bakery franchise. You know, other things

726
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: popped up in it morphed into nothing bunch cakes. So

727
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: I would say the plan was to have a side business,

728
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: which sometimes you have to have to open it up

729
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: just a little bit and be receptive to the pivots

730
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: and the changes and say, okay, I thought it was

731
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: going to be this, but this is coming full circle

732
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: for me, so let me embrace this and make this work.

733
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Speaker 1: What's the definition of a franchise? I'm sorry, what's the

734
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: definition of Victoria? That's question number three, Victoria, that's your

735
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: last question. Victor R jacking my show. I was a

736
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: great movie. The final netflix is um the Founder. I

737
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: believe it's called with McDonald's. So it takes you through

738
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: the whole franchise like life. So basically, Victoria. Two women

739
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: came together twenty plus years ago. They had a great

740
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: bunch cake and great frosting. Right, they said, listen, let's

741
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: open up little bakery. Let's have a store. You have

742
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: a business. It does well. You create the cookie cut

743
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: type of thing. You know, you mastered the recipes, and

744
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: it's like, can I give somebody this and can they

745
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: do it without my expertise? And once you prove the concept,

746
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: and if you watch Shark Tank a couple of episodes,

747
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: you'll learn all this. Once you prove that the concept

748
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: can be done by anyone anywhere, that's the birth of franchising. Right.

749
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: So okay, so they said, look, we have the recipe,

750
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: we have everything. We you know, worked out the kinks.

751
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: We know how many people you should hire or we

752
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: know you know what locations are do well with this,

753
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: and they kind of mapped it out. They give you

754
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: the blueprint, so you take the blueprint. Will you buy

755
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: the blueprint? Let's be clear, you buy the blueprint? Victoria. Well,

756
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I've been baking since I

757
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: was ten years old. I make really good I'm sorry,

758
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm serious, Victoria, I'm not. I'm not denying that victory.

759
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: First of all, that's what the show was designed. Money

760
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: making conversation Domestic class was to get the community excited

761
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: about speaking to people like Charlie because they do exist,

762
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: they do exist, and there they do have stories, and

763
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: her story has gravitated you and hopefully motivates you to

764
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: be a star, a star. And like she said, bakery,

765
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I'm an award winning baker

766
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: and I have no desire to open the bakery. But

767
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: you go to my timeline, you think I'm baked, and

768
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: people two four hundred pounds due every time I look,

769
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: you're eating something. And but but it's the passion. I

770
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: hear the passion in your voice. I think what she's

771
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: saying right now is that what is the plan? You know,

772
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: what is the plan? And she speaks to people all

773
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: the time, and so no, your question, I tease you

774
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: about asking questions. Your curiosity is incredible, but now it

775
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: has to be put on paper. And once you put

776
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: it on paper, then the emotional pushback happens. You know,

777
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: how do you make that dream happen? And that's really

778
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: where it all starts, you know, whether you want to

779
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: be a singer, whether you want to go to college,

780
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: they're always dreams, but they are when you start creating

781
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: application to that dream, that's when the struggle happens. And

782
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: when that struggle happens, how do you react to it?

783
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: What is your plan the pushback on that? Because we

784
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: all have rainy days, we have rainy days in relationships,

785
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: we have rainy dads on job. And that word rainy

786
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: days doesn't necessarily mean rain, it's just meaning difficulties. It

787
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: means when it's supposed to be sunshiny, it's gloomy, And well,

788
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: how do you act doing gloom? And so this show

789
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass that you're listening to, and Charlie's

790
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: doing an amazing you know me, I should be worried

791
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: about her. You know, she's just brilliant sitting over here,

792
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: just responding. So confidently and casually to these questions, and

793
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: to have a guest like that, she's in studio. She

794
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: came in here, she brought in some of her samples.

795
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: It's to show confidence. And I just want to thank

796
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: you for calling in and leave your number and your

797
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: ZIP in your email address so we can reach out

798
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: to you, Okay, Victoria, because we really want to continue

799
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: that conversation. Plus I wanted to send you one of

800
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: my money Making Conversations guys to the success. All right,

801
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: thank you so much that I go to sleep with

802
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: with this station on, like it's always on in my

803
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: room and I really find refuge in it. So thank

804
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you, Victoria. Make sure leading information

805
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: from mess Charlie, get the little brain send up in here.

806
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master

807
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Class with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making

808
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. We know the thing about

809
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: it now. You you said you were going in there,

810
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: but I know we're about to wrap this break up

811
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: in a few minutes here, but I want to ask

812
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: you a couple of questions for me. There. You were

813
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: going in there to open a bakery at the side

814
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: business as a side business, and you should say like that, okay, cool,

815
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: Then let me get your history here now temple okay,

816
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: accounting CPA. Where did the baking skills if there were none?

817
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: They were none? M okay, Yeah. I used to just

818
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: cut the cookie roll, you know, like spray the pan

819
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: and like just put the little block of chocolate chip

820
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: dough on it, stick it in the oven. Yeah. That

821
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: was the extent of my baking skills. You know. Also,

822
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: if someone set seven years ago you're going to own

823
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: a bakery, I would say, wow, interesting because I don't bank,

824
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: right right. So, so so you in Tucker, Georgia. You you,

825
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: but you're in a visionary because you feel that you

826
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: want to feel a need. Okay, So talker walkers through

827
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: that step of going to the landlord, ye telling them

828
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Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, because you have to have a

829
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: plan yea. And the first plan wasn't nothing, but can

830
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: talk about that, okay. So the plaza was coming, great location,

831
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: and Tucker, I need to be a part of it.

832
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm dripping by every day going to my corporate job.

833
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: So one day I took a right and I found

834
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, sign rolled down the number, called them, Hey,

835
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: I have an idea for a baker. Do you have

836
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: any space available? Absolutely? How much space do you need?

837
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to him about, you know, kind of

838
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: faking it too. I made it, and so I was

839
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: kind of on the hook to bring a bakery. So

840
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: that is when the will started spinning and I was like, oh,

841
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: that fell through. What else can I do? Oh? I

842
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: was committed to bring in the bakery. Okay, okay, you

843
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: open in twenty seventeen. Yeah, when did you start this?

844
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: Late fifteen? Late fifteen. We started communicating with the landlord.

845
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm at dinner one night and I had Nothing bunch

846
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Cakes in California at a cousin's birthday dinner, and it

847
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: was the best cake I ever had, and I thought, Wow,

848
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: I gotta come back to LA to get this cake.

849
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's moist the cream, cheese, you know.

850
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: So I had it, tasted it. I just didn't know

851
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: it was a franchise. I didn't know there was one

852
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: here in Georgia. I didn't know any of that until

853
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: someone mentioned it again and I said, oh, let me

854
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: google google Nothing Bunchcake franchise. Boom came up. I'm almost

855
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: signing a deal with another bakery franchise. Okay, okay, so

856
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: the spirit said, don't just see what nothing bunch Cakes

857
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: has to say. I emailed them, she replied back. I

858
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: told her what was happening about me with this other franchise.

859
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: She said, wait, don't you do it? Charlie, hear me out,

860
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: and I heard her out and the rest is history.

861
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: You know, I canceled the deal with the other bakery

862
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: franchise and when with nothing Bunecake. So why as this

863
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: off air where a black women the fastest growing segment

864
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: in entrepreneurship, Why all black bomen from what I see

865
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: and all the amazing Black women that I know, I

866
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: think our mothers have a lot to do with that.

867
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: I know my mother, Um, you know, she pushed her

868
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: girls to be what she was not able to accomplish,

869
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: you know. So it was just having that fierce you

870
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: know that, you know, amazing black role model of a

871
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: mother to say you need to travel, you need to

872
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: go to college, you need to be better than me,

873
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: you need to do better than me. You know, the

874
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: school is your number one priority. That just pushed me

875
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: to continue to see myself out of North Philly. You know,

876
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends didn't never been out of

877
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: North Philly, so they couldn't see themselves living outside of

878
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: North Philly, let alone, you know, having a business or

879
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: going to college. So I think our mothers are the

880
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: backbones of to while we're so successful and we're very

881
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: passionate women. I grew up with six of them, so

882
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: I know about the female passion. We come back, we're

883
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: gonna find out how big her bakery is, either pros

884
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: and cons of franchising, what to consider before franchises. She said,

885
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, she was about to sign another local franchise

886
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: location bakery, and and she sat down with the nothing

887
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: but cake individuals, and they said, hey, we're the one,

888
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: and she's not looked back. If we're right back with more. Charlie,

889
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: Sha Bass, Charlie, you got another phone called? Is that

890
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: Tayron or Tayron Tarn? Is it tarn like the capital right? Okay?

891
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, my friend, and I I apologize. And my

892
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: name is Roshaun. You think I would get everybody's name right?

893
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: And I apologize. I apologize. Yeah, yeah, I say the

894
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: same thing when I get someone else's name. Well, one

895
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: name I can't get wrong. It's Charlie. It's Charlie's. Charlie's

896
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: on the show with me and we're talking about franchising.

897
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: What's your question today that you might want to ask

898
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: me or her? Well, I just wanted to, uh, you know,

899
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: give give y'all props. Um. I listened to w c

900
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: OKA often and I just was listening in on the

901
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: conversation and I just wanted to say, you know, thank

902
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: you all for just support the black owned businesses as

903
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: well as you know, small businesses and on the whole,

904
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: but black owned. It's definitely what is your name? I'm sorry?

905
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: You know, I really appreciate the ron because of the

906
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: fact that you know, when you when you're trying to

907
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: talk to people, there's fear and that you know, especially

908
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: when you're offering advices like what's what's the scam? Because

909
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: black people have a natural you know, scam radar. You know,

910
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: there's another agenda here, and the agenda here is just

911
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: providing information. That's all and and basically what we're having

912
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: it's just a conversation and we as allowing you to

913
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: listen in on our conversation that we might have at

914
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: a restaurant that we might have You know, walking down

915
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: the street and these questions, Like Victoria was so excited

916
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: to hear you call in and say, I really appreciate

917
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: this conversation. It's what we want to hear. That's the

918
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: conversation you want to create. And the thing I love

919
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: the a boy Charlie's conversation was she was just a

920
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: business minded person that got into this and that what

921
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: stops so many people. You didn't have to be a baker.

922
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: You just had to have the passion and the ability

923
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: to work hard to achieve your successes a franchise e.

924
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: That's what excites me about the conversation. What are your thoughts? Absolutely, well,

925
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: you know the journey. The journey sometimes you know in

926
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: the beginning is the shaky road, you know, and it

927
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: takes you know, it takes that vision to be ignited.

928
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: And like you said, you know, fear is that thing

929
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: that stops most people's ideas and visions and goals because

930
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: they don't really know what they're stepping into. And as

931
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: I was hearing her story and stories before hers, um,

932
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely related. And you know again, um,

933
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just appreciated just hearing everyone's

934
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: journey to where they are now, and um, and I

935
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: know that you know in the future, I know, I'm quitty,

936
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: sure there is you know, there's a long term goals

937
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: you know, this is you know other goals that. Yeah,

938
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: but but as far as what I've heard, you know,

939
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: I definitely related to. So thank you. I appreciate because

940
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: she has a little announcement to tell us. Then thank

941
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: you for calling on the show here moneyment covers? Are

942
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: you telling me? Off air? He was talking about long

943
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: term goal, short term goal. Now, short term goal was

944
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: just to get all place open and bakery with a

945
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: name on it. There was Repstable. Yeah, now you told

946
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: me all fair of what else is about to happen

947
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: in your life as an entrepreneur as a franchise e.

948
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: Well you now are Sean. I let my CPA license

949
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: labs and so I said, you know what, accounty, that's

950
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: not my thing anymore. This is my thing now. So

951
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: now how can I transition to this to legacy to

952
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: open another one? Wow? Yeah? So, um, thank god I

953
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: just got my approval. A couple of weeks ago. I

954
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: was nervously just like, oh, I hope I could announce

955
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: on the show. But it was a true blessing and

956
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: a lot of hard work. You know, I definitely deserved it. Um,

957
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: Tucker is four and a half years old now, so

958
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: I kind of worked through the kinks of being a

959
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: small business entrepreneur to you know, now be confident to

960
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: open another one. Now, what's the timeline of being on

961
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: that opening? So the territory is central Atlanta? Hey, Atlanta

962
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: were coming? Um, you know, I was like, I mean,

963
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: where is it Atlanta? You know, so Tucker was the

964
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: closest location to the city of Atlanta, So our second

965
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: baby will be in the city. We're going to cover

966
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: everything from North Shrewood Hills to downtown. Okay, so we

967
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: got Atlanta covered. Yeah. Well you gotta know you got

968
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: your third phone call, Thomas. How are you doing? Thomas

969
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: H Thomas, Charlie's here long with Rashan McDonald. What's your question.

970
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: I just want to say good even to both through you.

971
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm an avid listener. Want to commend Charlie and the

972
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: system before a CPR just for all that you're doing

973
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: me being a business owner myself, a new a fairly

974
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: new business owner. The want that you talked about, Charlie,

975
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: the pivoted you know, giving you have an accounting background,

976
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: doing something totally unrelated to what you were doing, and

977
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: the thing that I find to be true and you

978
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: sound of a similar nature. But God, I commend you.

979
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: Commend you, commend you. I love or son for this

980
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: platform giving others to come on here to learn, quire, share,

981
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: continue to build an uplift each other. And like Rashun

982
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, that fear, I too know. I've wrestled

983
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: with it for years, but by the grace of God,

984
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: last year I pushed through myself. So I can go

985
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: on and on, but I won't. I just keep it short.

986
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: But I just want to commend you. I'm gonna make

987
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: I eat it nothing, nothing but cakes every now and again.

988
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: I was first introduced to it about three years ago

989
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: at a corporate function, and I do make it a

990
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: point to go there. Now that I know that you

991
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: have a location in Tucker, I'm gonna make it a

992
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: point specifically to come to see your location. Thank you, Thomas,

993
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: and congratulations to you as well. Thank you. I just

994
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: wish you well to much success on your current store

995
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: as well as your new endeavors you're about to embark upon.

996
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you so much. Thank you so much. Well,

997
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: you know this is the Charlie's your bass show. She's

998
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: your co host of money making Conversation, Mouse to Class

999
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: and Charlie the second location. Yes, so we're just working

1000
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: through the l OI. And you know, for those of

1001
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: you who are thinking about owning a business having a

1002
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: brick and mortar, an actual storefront, an LI is a

1003
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: lease of intent. So before you have at lease for space,

1004
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: you negotiate kind of the upfront. How much am I

1005
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: going to pay per square foot? How much is this?

1006
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: How much is that? How long will the least term be?

1007
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: What do you cover? What do I cover? You know,

1008
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: so exactly. So we got really lucky with Tucker because

1009
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: it was a brand new construction, brand new facility, brand

1010
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: new plaza, brand in space. The timing was right because

1011
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: the unit was not built out yet, so we were

1012
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: able to work with my contractors and my landlord and

1013
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: do everything one time. You know, a lot of times

1014
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: you're working with a structure and you know your your

1015
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: architect says, no, the sink should be up over here,

1016
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: so now you got to dig up the cement, move

1017
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: the pipes, you know. So we were able to save

1018
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: a lot of money just by working together from the

1019
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: very beginning and getting everything built out the way that

1020
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: it was required. So I was I don't think that's

1021
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: I know that's not going to be the case for

1022
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: the second one. It's an existing structure for the space

1023
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: that I would like to hopefully UM move into. It's

1024
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: off of Morelin. It's a really crazy busy plaza. But

1025
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: I think nothing bunch cakes can hold our own. And

1026
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: now you delivered to my offer. I did. Now, how

1027
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna do that? Because you like that personal touch.

1028
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: You'd like to be on the front line of meeting

1029
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: your customers things like that, you know, and I still will.

1030
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: I just won't be able to do all of them right,

1031
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, um you I absolutely need a full team

1032
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: to help me be completely successful. I think I am

1033
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: best at building relationships marketing. That's my new job. I'm

1034
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 1: out the Decab Chambers of Commerce. I'm a member there.

1035
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm a member of my Tucker and Business Association. I'm

1036
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: out planning the seeds, you know, so when they start

1037
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: to grow, the business can grow. UM. And you just

1038
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: gotta know what you're what you're good at, and when

1039
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: you're not good at. I've met other business owners who

1040
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: are not people people, right, you know, so they hire

1041
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: other people to do that for them. It's a gift.

1042
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: It's a gift, and I'm thankful for it, and I'm

1043
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: thankful to be in the position to be able to

1044
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: build those relationships because a lot of times businesses come

1045
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: to communities and they take take take from the community,

1046
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: and they don't give back to the community. So it's

1047
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: very important to me to give back to the community

1048
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: that I live in. I'm still a resident of Tucker.

1049
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: But the beauty of our converence, first of all, finally

1050
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: got you in here. You are amazing, not only amazing,

1051
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: just your story is just special and it fits so

1052
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: many things that I talk about every week, and the

1053
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: fact that you're opening another location, and the fact that

1054
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: you're not a train baker, the fact that you just

1055
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: saw an opportunity, did your research and that's why. And

1056
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: then overcame the fear of people going, you don't do that,

1057
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: Why why are you doing something you don't do That's

1058
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: what just show money making, money, money making, master money making, conversation,

1059
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: master classes all about it. I want to thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on the show, and thank you for the

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Speaker 1: together and putting on social media before we eat it.

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Speaker 1: We see you next week. Just Roy Sean McDonald. I'm

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Speaker 1: the host of Money Making Conversations master Class and thank

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Speaker 1: you Jay. You're welcome. Thank you You've been listening to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. He will be

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Speaker 1: back next Tuesday at six pm. Always remember to lead

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Speaker 1: with your gifts. Money Making Conversations Masterclass is a presentation

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Speaker 1: of thirty eight fifteen Media Incorporated. You are now tuned

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Speaker 1: into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rushan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Hi Roshan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your

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Speaker 1: daily Minute of Inspiration. I sat down with the one

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Speaker 1: and only legend, Miss Patty Patty LaBelle, singer, actress, cookbook

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Speaker 1: Arthur and Brand, who shared what drives her energy to

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Speaker 1: give do charity and what explains her joy. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's because of my mom and dad. They were both

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Speaker 1: loving people, outgoing by the neighborhood and just made people

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Speaker 1: feel like they wanted to smile instead of frowning. And

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Speaker 1: with me, I noticed, you know, since I've been performing

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Speaker 1: for fifty six years, HU so many people just when

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Speaker 1: I hug them, you know, or when I smile or

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Speaker 1: say something positive to them. Don't cause you nothing to

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Speaker 1: be a lifter of people, and it's natural for me.

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Speaker 1: It's natural. You can listen to this full interview with

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Speaker 1: Miss Patti LaBelle. It's available on Moneymaking Conversations dot com.