WEBVTT - What's Wright - BEST OF: Stephen A. FIRES BACK at LeBron James, wild Patrick Mahomes story, why SGA is NBA MVP

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<v Speaker 1>Steven A.

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<v Speaker 2>Smith has been going around talking about his confrontation with Lebron.

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<v Speaker 2>James talked about on his show. I went and talked

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<v Speaker 2>to talked about it with Gilbert Arenas and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was weak.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was some bs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah about Lebron coming up to him. And then also

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<v Speaker 3>he went on Sean Hannity's show last night, Yes and Does,

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<v Speaker 3>and this got brought up in despite the all the

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<v Speaker 3>awful things hannedy Is said about Lebron over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a lot of takes on this, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to leave this be, but the Gilbert

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<v Speaker 3>Arenas show appearance was to me it has to be

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<v Speaker 3>responded to, and there's so many different tentacles to this,

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<v Speaker 3>so I will first first, I want to make this

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<v Speaker 3>point we in the media have to be willing to

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<v Speaker 3>occasionally taken out. Everyone does, but particularly us. We in

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<v Speaker 3>the media have to be willing to at times be

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<v Speaker 3>like that was a miss. I was wrong. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>handle that perfectly. And we in the media also have

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<v Speaker 3>to recognize and acknowledge that no matter how big or prominent,

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<v Speaker 3>or wealthy or successful any of us ever get, we

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<v Speaker 3>will never be from a fan or credibility to the

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<v Speaker 3>audience standpoint on par with the biggest athletes that we cover.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll never Howard Cosell was not equal to Muhammad Ali.

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<v Speaker 3>He was telling Ali's story. The audience was there for Ali.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Costas was not equal to Michael Jordan. He's he's

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<v Speaker 3>telling Michael Jordan's story.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead to mins with that.

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<v Speaker 2>With that point, don't you think it like, because Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Natesmith is saying it's weak, Lebron James obviously has all

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<v Speaker 2>the leverage on the court. Do you do you not

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's a little Uh, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say it's weak, but because he

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<v Speaker 2>obviously does have leverage, like nobody's gonna be on Steven

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<v Speaker 2>As yet.

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<v Speaker 3>But you also you that's the thing. So that's the

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<v Speaker 3>thing you have to know in the media that you

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<v Speaker 3>at some point the actual stars are the people we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about. Sometimes we can be good enough or successful enough,

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<v Speaker 3>or prominent enough or whatever where we become kind of

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<v Speaker 3>supporting actors, but it's their movie. People are here. They

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<v Speaker 3>care so much about them that we become important people

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<v Speaker 3>because we talk about them. And so there is there

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<v Speaker 3>will never be a White House courus or White House

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<v Speaker 3>correspondent that is more important to the political discourse than

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<v Speaker 3>the president. There will there, and there will there will

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<v Speaker 3>never be a stephen A And he has earned it,

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<v Speaker 3>earned it. He is the most prominent sports media member,

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<v Speaker 3>which does make him bigger than some athletes, but he

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<v Speaker 3>will never be bigger than the biggest athletes. Like here's

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<v Speaker 3>a good kind of you know, back in the Napkin math,

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<v Speaker 3>do you remember Demanse when I went after Patrick Beverly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that is I think two people on kind of equal footing.

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<v Speaker 3>But think about why that is. You have me. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just saying we're about on equal footing. Me someone who's

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<v Speaker 3>probably near the bottom of the top ten in my field,

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<v Speaker 3>and someone like him who's near the top of the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom ten in his field. And that's where we meet.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got it. Like so the and there was

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<v Speaker 3>another little jab at Patrick Beverley fit in there, but

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<v Speaker 3>uh so it is so No, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>unfair for Lebron to to respond. We all like the

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<v Speaker 3>And here is the other thing. You gotta be prepared

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<v Speaker 3>in the moment with how you're going to respond if

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<v Speaker 3>they if you get checked, and this idea like I got,

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<v Speaker 3>I told the story you know, confronted is too strong,

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<v Speaker 3>but questioned by Jalen Hurt's mom night before the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was totally within her rights. I've told the

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<v Speaker 3>story for anohing of good things say about her, uh

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the only they're not many bright sides

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<v Speaker 3>for me that came out of that Super Bowl. But

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<v Speaker 3>I respected her in that interaction so much that I

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<v Speaker 3>was part of me, the little part of me that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't heartbroken about the result of the game, was happy

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<v Speaker 3>for her because she was so adamant or someone was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna win and that he was gonna play great and

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<v Speaker 3>all that happened. But in that moment, I had a

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<v Speaker 3>choice to make do I snapfold my hand, or do

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<v Speaker 3>I say, okay, we can actually talk about it. What

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think is typically cool is to in the

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<v Speaker 3>moment snapfold your hand and then after the fact talk

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<v Speaker 3>and talk and talk and talk and talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's the other pieces of it that I just

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go ahead and say I have a hard

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<v Speaker 3>time fully buying. On Gilbert's show, stephen A said, essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>my producers made me address it. I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>My producers made me address it. Bro, that's not how

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<v Speaker 3>that works. We all we all know that, like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>it's not how that works on first things. First, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't imagine that's how that works. On first take. I

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<v Speaker 3>cannot imagine. And I do not think that anybody really

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<v Speaker 3>believes like there is anything on that show that stephen

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<v Speaker 3>A's like, I do not want to do this, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, so you have to come on, man, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not like, that's not that's not a thing. Like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the day after a finals game, if see if someone

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I don't want to talk about the basketball game,

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<v Speaker 3>they might be like, well you have to and if not,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna pay, like the but I, that's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other thing was this because on Gilbert Show,

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<v Speaker 3>stephen A said, oh, I I thought in the moment

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<v Speaker 3>this was about Bronni. It wasn't until I saw what

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron's conversation mouth somewhat covered mouth not with Richard Jefferson

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<v Speaker 3>that I knew this was actually about what I had

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<v Speaker 3>said about him as a father. Man. I knew it

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<v Speaker 3>the next day. I was on here the next day

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<v Speaker 3>and I told everyone that's what it was about it

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<v Speaker 3>was obvious. That's what it was about. The everyone who's

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<v Speaker 3>in these circles knows, that's what it was about. When

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron's people called you and you made fun of them,

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<v Speaker 3>it was months ago. It was about that. It was

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<v Speaker 3>about the I'm begging you as a father. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>okay to say I was caught off guard, has caught

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<v Speaker 3>off guard, didn't really know. And then the other part

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<v Speaker 3>of it, like again, and I say this every time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll say it again, And it's so funny that

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<v Speaker 3>I texted with stephen A the day this, the morning

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<v Speaker 3>before this all happened, so like I think this happened

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<v Speaker 3>a week ago today, I actually text with steven A

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<v Speaker 3>that morning, so before it all happened. Obviously, I have

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm still using current present tense. I hope a

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<v Speaker 3>good relationship with him. But I have to be I

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<v Speaker 3>have to be fair here, because I'm not hesitating ever

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<v Speaker 3>on this platform or on the TV show really to

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<v Speaker 3>criticize colleagues if I think they're dead wrong. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>just have the guys that I really like or my

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<v Speaker 3>friends or whatever be like a sacred cows here, especially

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<v Speaker 3>when this this is the story that continues to be

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<v Speaker 3>the story. The implication with Gilbert and Company that listen,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I'd have handled that differently, but I work for

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<v Speaker 3>Walt Disney.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man about like the fighting or like I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, that's what it seemed like was being implied. I mean, like, man, like, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>Steven Ain't, to his credit, has gotten in great shit

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<v Speaker 3>and did like a real boxing thing and would be

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<v Speaker 3>a even even you know at his at his you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's in great japer's age and is despite being a

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<v Speaker 3>decade plus order than me, I'll say it would be

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<v Speaker 3>a significant favorite over most other media members. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean in hand to hand combat, but the

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<v Speaker 3>idea that it's like well, you know, hands are a

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<v Speaker 3>little tied because I work for the mouse. Otherwise, like,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, man, like what are we like? That's just

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't play a Devil's advocate any longer, but this

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<v Speaker 2>last time we'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think like what is in like? Is are

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<v Speaker 1>we saying that the only thing that Stephen A.

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<v Speaker 2>Smith did wrong was call out Lebron James a father,

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<v Speaker 2>Like is everything else like in bounds?

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<v Speaker 1>What's out of bounds?

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<v Speaker 3>So here's so here's what I think. That's a great

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<v Speaker 3>follow up and a great question. The I think that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pleading with you as a father was out of line.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also what Lebron was responding to. That was very

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<v Speaker 3>clear from the morning after the event. I again, I

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<v Speaker 3>set it on this show on a little emergency pod

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<v Speaker 3>that we did right after or over the weekend, but

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<v Speaker 3>before the rj uh interaction with Lebron, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>it was very clear that's what it was about. So

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<v Speaker 3>that is you Now, I talked to Bamani about that,

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<v Speaker 3>Butmani says we need to normalize judging other people's parenting,

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<v Speaker 3>which is an interesting take, and like it's also you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Butmani's you know, glass house there, not glasshouse there. BUTMANI

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<v Speaker 3>ain't got no kids, so he didn't know how hard

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<v Speaker 3>you guys can be some times. But but the that

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<v Speaker 3>is that's what triggered Lebron. Okay, that's what it was

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<v Speaker 3>now is the criticism of Bronnie fair. It let me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tweak how I word that.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Well, I mean also like there's a while

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<v Speaker 2>back Lebron put out a tweet and I get it's

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<v Speaker 2>not Bronni that tweet like it's just unfortunate that it's

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<v Speaker 2>landing on Bronnie the kid.

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<v Speaker 3>When so that tweet is I would argue, and this

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<v Speaker 3>I think kind of speaks to how relatively well, not

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<v Speaker 3>relatively well, but incredibly well lebron James has handled twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five years in the public eye. That tweets one of

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<v Speaker 3>the five biggest missteps of his whole career, honest to God,

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<v Speaker 3>like it really is. But the fact that everyone keeps

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<v Speaker 3>pointing to this tweet from three years ago as evidence that, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron has been building Bronnie up bigger than he was,

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<v Speaker 3>I think speaks to the fact that after that tweet,

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron pumped the brakes on it, right, like that that

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<v Speaker 3>tweet was it put a bigger target on Bronnie's back,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that was that was a mistake. That that's

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<v Speaker 3>totally fair, and that's that would be criticizing lebron You

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<v Speaker 3>know that a decision he made, Like that's totally fair,

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not what this was about, right, So the so,

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<v Speaker 3>but I but to get back to your other question

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<v Speaker 3>is is Bronnie James a fair target for criticism? The

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<v Speaker 3>answer to that is yes, he's an NBA players, a

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<v Speaker 3>grown man NBA player. Is it also fair to say,

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<v Speaker 3>if this is going to be the one and only

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<v Speaker 3>second round pick in the entire draft in the last

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<v Speaker 3>two drafts three drafts that we are going to occasionally

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<v Speaker 3>criticize on national television, that if you have been one

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<v Speaker 3>of the more vocal critics, whether it was his summer

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<v Speaker 3>League performance or his opening few g League games or

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<v Speaker 3>those awful minutes against the Sixers, then if you really

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<v Speaker 3>want to be fair, you've got to mix in the

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<v Speaker 3>context and maybe include, oh, he's actually played really well

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<v Speaker 3>since that moment. Now, I think it's probably like, does

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<v Speaker 3>that make sense that if I'm that anybody that you

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<v Speaker 3>are is you don't have to talk about, but you

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<v Speaker 3>choose to talk about either super glowingly or super negatively

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<v Speaker 3>or it's you know that you insert in, It's probably

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<v Speaker 3>fair to balance the scale to a degree you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to do. That's why I keep doing the You

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<v Speaker 3>know where he ranks amongst rookies, and he is somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>between forty eighth and fifty eighth in every single minutes games, points, assists, steals,

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<v Speaker 3>which is what you would hope for from the fifty

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<v Speaker 3>to fifth pick. So that's the other piece of this

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<v Speaker 3>that I think is a little bit of bullshit. If

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<v Speaker 3>you were and this is not I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Steven ah here, okay, if you are, to a degree,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of talking about one of my dearest friends

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, among others, but among other not among

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<v Speaker 3>my other dearest friends, but Manni is one of my

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<v Speaker 3>dearest friends in the world. He's one of many people

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<v Speaker 3>who were very loud and skeptical about Bronni being drafted.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think what's fair is if you were one

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<v Speaker 3>of those people saying this is a farce of a pick,

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<v Speaker 3>to at some point mention he's acquitting himself pretty well

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<v Speaker 3>in the G League, that he's averaging the exact same

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<v Speaker 3>as the Lakers first round pick last year in the

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<v Speaker 3>G League, that he you know what, like that, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's pretty clear that the people who said

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<v Speaker 3>this is a farce of a pick, if Bronni in

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<v Speaker 3>the G League was four points, couldn't you know? It

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<v Speaker 3>is terrible to be like see, And so I just

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<v Speaker 3>I do think though that stuff is convenient well, and again,

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<v Speaker 3>I just it's also not all that day to day relevant.

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<v Speaker 3>I just what I don't. I just have a really

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<v Speaker 3>hard time with the sequence of I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this. I've now talked about it almost every

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<v Speaker 3>single day on four different platforms since then. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what he was mad about when I got a

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<v Speaker 3>call five weeks ago from his agent about the exact

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<v Speaker 3>thing he's mad about, and anyone with kind of deductive

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<v Speaker 3>reasoning knew that's what he's mad about. Having been on

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<v Speaker 3>the record for twenty years about how many games you

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<v Speaker 3>go to and about how everyone you talk about is

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<v Speaker 3>welcome to come up and talk to you about anything

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<v Speaker 3>they say, and when that happens, to say it was

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<v Speaker 3>weak and it was bullshit, And this is why I

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<v Speaker 3>started with the we're not on equal playing field with

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<v Speaker 3>these guys. He sometimes you don't get to respond like

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<v Speaker 3>you can respond. That's let me don't That's I said

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<v Speaker 3>that wrong. That's not what I meant. What I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say is, in that moment, I think what he's

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<v Speaker 3>saying is I wanted a phone call so I could

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<v Speaker 3>give give my side of the story, and Lebron was saying,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't give a shit about your side of the story.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like what you said, and I wanted you

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<v Speaker 3>to stop it, and if we never speak again, no

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<v Speaker 3>skin off my back. And that is a power and

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<v Speaker 3>balance because like rounds like I don't care about this relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>You might, I don't, and that just kind of is

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<v Speaker 3>that that that's why I used the Coseel Ali thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Cosel actually was incredibly helpful to Ali because Ali had

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<v Speaker 3>the US government working against him and a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not a perfect example at all, but as

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<v Speaker 3>helpful as Howard Goseel was to Muhammad Ali, Howard go

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<v Speaker 3>Sel needed Muhammad Ali in that relationship more than Ali

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<v Speaker 3>ever needed would need him. And no matter how wealthy

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<v Speaker 3>or famous any of us get, we're not the actual stars.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we also have to have the humility to

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<v Speaker 3>at times just take an l. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 3>that is so difficult for certain folks like and that's

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not just pointing out stephen A there at all.

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<v Speaker 3>That is that is a lot of people again, well

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<v Speaker 3>particularly people that in our business people that are there

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<v Speaker 3>is It's also why there's kind of this unspoken rule

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<v Speaker 3>almost like oh, you know, I'm in the media, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to criticize other media that I obviously don't

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<v Speaker 3>subscribe to. I just think that is somewhat hypocritical, almost

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<v Speaker 3>like we can't we we can't do what we do

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<v Speaker 3>to these athletes and then act so wounded if somebody

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<v Speaker 3>does it to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly like this guy needs to change this that like

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<v Speaker 2>that needs to happen. It's like I feel like which

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<v Speaker 2>is in some fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>And so listen, I really hope this is the end

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<v Speaker 3>that of this the and the handity thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it well?

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't. I I don't look given all

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<v Speaker 3>the things Sean Hannity has said about Lebron that I

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<v Speaker 3>find to be in inaccurate on their face and wildly unfair.

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<v Speaker 3>I think going on that turf and doing this was

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<v Speaker 3>and now and again in Stepney's defense there, it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>didn't spend a lot of time on it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was on there to give more political commentary,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, after dropping the first ever thirty twenty twenty

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty game against Phoenix Yolks, MVP odds cut in half.

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<v Speaker 2>Then SGA got the best of them in that Denver

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 2>game he dropped forty and then Jokic got a little

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<v Speaker 2>get back. So they're kind of kind of a weird

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 2>situation for the MVP right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you have?

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 3>I think it's Shay. I don't think it's really that debatable,

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 3>and I am consistent. Well, here's why Demansey and I

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 3>heard Mike Malone. God, Michael Malone. Basically, if you're not

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 3>willing to say the NBA logo should be changed from

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 3>Jerry West to Nikola Jokic, like you're not given Jokic

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 3>enough respect by Michael Malone's standards. I mean the idea

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 3>that Jokic has won three of the last four MVPs,

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<v Speaker 3>he won back to back MVPs prior to ever going

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 3>on a deep playoff run which was not unprecedented but

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 3>close to unprecedented, and so like this idea that he's

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 3>not getting enough respect is just crazy. And here is

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 3>why I feel the way I do about the MVP,

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 3>and it is the same reason I felt it was

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 3>very clear Josh Allen was the MVP this past year

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 3>in the NFL. We cannot play Calvin ball with how

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 3>we give out MVP awards. And if people don't know

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 3>what the phrase Calvin ball is, it's from the old

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 3>cartoon Calvin and Hobbes, the comic strip. But it's where

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 3>you just make up the rules as you go. It's

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 3>essentially heads, you lose, tales I win. It's where whatever

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the whatever the rules need to be for me to win,

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 3>those are the rules. And so two years ago the

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 3>NFL MVP Josh had these amazing numbers and not so

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 3>much Josh. Actually it was really brock Perty and Dak

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 3>had these amazing numbers. Lamar had middling numbers, but his

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 3>team had the best record. He played you know great

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 3>in some big spots, and they gave it to Lamar.

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 3>This year, Lamar has amazing numbers, but his team's record

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 3>is you know, mediocre compared to the other MVP candidates.

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Josh had good numbers, not as good as Lamar's. The

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 3>team had the better record, and people were like, no,

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Some people were like, no, it should be Lamar again, like, well,

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 3>he can't win for one set of logic in twenty

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>three and inver ctle logic in twenty four that if

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 3>we give Joker the MVP this year, then we need

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 3>to go back last year and give the one he

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 3>won there to Luca. Because last year here was Luca's numbers,

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>thirty four points per game, the scoring champion by three

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 3>and a half points, nine rebounds, ten assists. He was

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 3>thirty four, nine and ten on forty nine to thirty

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 3>eight splits. Joker, who won the MVP was twenty six

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 3>points per game, twelve rebounds, nine assists on fifty eight

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 3>thirty six splits. So why did Joker win it? Because

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>the Denver Nuggets tied for the best record in the

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Western Conference. They had fifty seven wins and Luca's team

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>was the five seed. They had fifty five or they

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.719
<v Speaker 3>had fifty wins. Pardon me that seven win golf is

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 3>why not only did Joker win it, but it was

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 3>not close. If I remember, I'm gonna check real quick.

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Joker had got seventy nine first place votes, Shay got fifteen,

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Luca got four. He ran away with it. So this

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 3>year when Joker's numbers are remarkable, and they are remarkable

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 3>at twenty nine, thirteen and ten. Shae is going to

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 3>win the scoring title, by the way at thirty two

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>and a half, but then only five and six. But

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Shay is the in my opinion, rightful MVP because his

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 3>team has fifty three wins and the Nuggets have forty two.

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Would He's not say no team, It's more just like

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 2>if the Thunder didn't have SGA, you know, they'd be

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>less off good. I think if Denver didn't have Yokics,

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 2>they'd be absolutely ft.

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 3>No, that is listen, that's definitely true that Denver would

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 3>completely collapse without Joker. That's definitely true. But that can't

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 3>be the solo standard, and we can't change the rules

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 3>year over year like the And it is true, and

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 3>it has always been true that the hardest MVP to

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 3>win is the next one. The easiest MVP to win

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 3>is your first, and then to win a second one

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 3>you usually have to be even better than you were

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 3>for your first one, and then to win your third one,

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>you've got to be truly in historic territory, and then

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 3>to win your fourth you have to be have a

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 3>historic season and be one of the greatest players of

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 3>all time and not have any first time attempted first

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 3>time winner have a real case. So and Joker is

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 3>one of the greatest players of all time and he

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 3>is having a historic season. But the guys with four

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 3>are Bron Will Russell, Jordan Kareem. Those guys have four

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 3>or five or six. I'm not saying Jokers not allowed

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 3>to join that group one day. What I am saying

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 3>is we can't give Jokers third MVP, even though Luca

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 3>had one of the most insane statistical regular seasons ever,

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 3>because Joker's team was better, and then give Joker his

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 3>fourth MVP because he's having an insane statistical regular season

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 3>when SHA's team is better. Like if the we have

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 3>to be consistent with it, and and also like this

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:37.719
<v Speaker 3>idea that the Thunder would be okay without Shae, I

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 3>don't agree with that. The Thunder without Shae would.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Be I mean, they wouldn't be in great shape. The

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>point I was just making was Denver.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Would be no Denver would instantly become one of the

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 3>worst teams in the league. I get that, But sh

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Shae scoring thirty three a game for a team that

0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have another established star is super valuable. So like

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 3>I just I just like consistency in this stuff.

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the press, I think from the beginning we've

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 2>just gotten really far off of what MVP means.

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it should have just been the.

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Actual most valuable player as I get like the don't know.

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 3>So this is a point Broom makes and and I'm

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 3>curious how you feel about it. And then we can

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 3>get to the NFL stuff quickly. And I don't know

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 3>why I ever say we're doing a quick show. I

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 3>don't have the capability of it. Does Is that fair

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>to the previous eras right? And here's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>If all of a sudden we change it to just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>who is the consensus best player in the league and

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<v Speaker 3>is he having an awesome season? Then he's the MVP,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden, Joker ends with six

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe one day Wimby ends with seven. It's like wow,

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<v Speaker 3>when that's not how we treated Kareem Lebron or Mike

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<v Speaker 3>or Michael, Like is that like, so that is that fair?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Yeah, say it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I said you have to make a new league. I

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<v Speaker 1>was joking, but yeah, not.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but yeah, I mean it just and so and

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<v Speaker 3>also this is it should be noted Shay the going

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<v Speaker 3>into this year, the only guy on his team who

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<v Speaker 3>had ever been an All Star is going to run

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<v Speaker 3>away with the scoring title. Scores thirty three a night

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<v Speaker 3>on good efficiency. Uh only plays thirty four minutes because

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<v Speaker 3>they blow so many teams out. His team has a

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<v Speaker 3>historic net rating and they have won. They are eleven

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<v Speaker 3>games clear of the Nuggets in the standings. That it's

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen NFL Draft, before First Things First Yet existed, Chris

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<v Speaker 3>Carter and I filled in for Colin Cowherd and we

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<v Speaker 3>interviewed a few of the draft prospects. One of them

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<v Speaker 3>was a potential first round pick out of Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 3>named Patrick mahomes I. And here is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>questions I asked him and listened to his answer. Patrick,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a son who's around your age, just a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit younger than you, and I did something with

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<v Speaker 3>him that I want to do with you. Right now,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not driving, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Ten years from now, close your eyes, think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>In a perfect world, everything goes great. You are, you

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<v Speaker 3>are doing exactly what you want to do. Take me

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<v Speaker 3>ten years from now. Describe where you are and what

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to tell me a city. Describe what

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<v Speaker 3>your life is ten years from this moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Ten years from now, I hope to have a family,

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<v Speaker 4>a wife and a kid or maybe two, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>playing in the NFL, one of the best quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL, and have a couple of Super Bowl championships

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<v Speaker 4>with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there you go. So like that. So you already

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<v Speaker 3>know your endpoint. Man. So now that you know your endpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>every fork in the road, every decision you make, just

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<v Speaker 3>keep in mind that's the end point you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get to. Where people screw up, at least my sec

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<v Speaker 3>is they don't know where they're trying to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>So you get to fork in the road and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know do I go left right? But Patrick has

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<v Speaker 3>said he's got a wife and kids, so I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that means he's got to, you know, be hitting the

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<v Speaker 3>dating scene in the off season a little bit, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>And you got a couple of quarters, you got a

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<v Speaker 3>couple super Bowl championship, still playing in the league. He

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<v Speaker 3>already knows where he's going, just got to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>how to get there. Yes, that is remarkable by Patrick

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<v Speaker 3>that he said the goals that high and exceeded all

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<v Speaker 3>of them. He said, one or two kids, he's at three.

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<v Speaker 3>The I didn't know obviously when I was saying hit

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<v Speaker 3>the dating scene that he was in a serious relationship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean that he had the woman

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<v Speaker 3>in mind. He had the woman in mind. And he

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<v Speaker 3>said one of the best quarterbacks in the league with

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<v Speaker 3>a couple championships. He's the best quarterback in the league

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<v Speaker 3>and has three. I mean, that is a really really

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<v Speaker 3>cool thing. And then the also him men. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so that was eight years ago. It was eight years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>So that was, Uh, that was I had I had

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<v Speaker 3>no recollection of that. Isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's truly awesome. I mean, got it on heed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so that that was really cool. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if he I'm gonna I'm gonna send if

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<v Speaker 3>we put out that clip right there, a little throwback Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Also again, folks who accuse me of hair plugs or anything,

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 3>look closely at that video. You see I have a

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<v Speaker 3>full hairline. I just have a shaved head. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>look like a guy who lost his hair. Look, this

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<v Speaker 3>idea is everywhere you can see doesn't matter. Point is

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<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, I mean that's not a guy who's bald,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a guy who shaved his head. Wasn't the greatest look.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say you can lose that one. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>ever want to get back to that one unless you have.

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<v Speaker 3>To the But regardless, Uh, I don't know. My guess

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<v Speaker 3>is Patrick doesn't remember that either. But if we put

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<v Speaker 3>out that clip, I'll send it to him. That was

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<v Speaker 3>really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for him for the first time in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Rogers is a free agent. Pittsburgh, the Giants, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of Minnesota. Those are the teams that

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be hawking him down. What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 3>So here's what I think. I think that Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 3>knows exactly where he's going and exactly what he's doing,

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<v Speaker 3>and Aaron Rodgers wants the attention, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that they are still negotiating. I think that he is

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<v Speaker 3>the main character in his story and in every story,

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<v Speaker 3>it would seem, and he, you know, likes that. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's three teams right now, kind of in a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a two definitely in the Steelers and the Giants,

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<v Speaker 3>and one maybe in the Vikings that are waiting on him.

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<v Speaker 3>I I don't understand the Vikings piece of it, demons.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's why it doesn't make sense to me that

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<v Speaker 3>they were like Daniel Jones, we'd like to give you

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<v Speaker 3>around ten million dollars to back up JJ McCarthy, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Daniel Jones went to Indianapolis and they're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers, we'd like to give you forty million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>to start in front of JJ McCarthy like those You

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<v Speaker 3>know that it doesn't seem like if you were if

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<v Speaker 3>they had tried to retain Sam Darnold and lost him

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<v Speaker 3>and then they pivoted Darren Rodgers to be like, okay,

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:51.280
<v Speaker 3>that makes you know, that's cogent thoughts, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>This one doesn't make sense to me, And does it

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<v Speaker 3>you understand what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't understand what you're saying, like, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>It just seems like I'm looking for a car. I'm

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 3>either gonna get a Miata Tutor or a minivan. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, what are you trying to get out

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 3>of this thing? Like the and so I just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't follow it in that way, that's all. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't know that he'll pick today. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I also will say this, the folks that believe the

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<v Speaker 3>Steelers could be anything close to contenders with Aaron Rodgers,

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.760
<v Speaker 3>they weren't contenders last year with Russell Wilson. Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 3>at disappointing. His career is not better than Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying he's worse. They're about the same. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>and so, I know they added George Pickens, but man,

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<v Speaker 3>that feels so combustible Pickens and Metcalf and Rogers, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, I don't. I don't love that at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Might