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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what's your name?

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Speaker 2: I'm Olivia. Is this Lyle?

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Speaker 1: This is Lyle? What's going on? Olivia?

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Speaker 2: Has life? Life is done? Kind of ship right now,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's my day off and I've just

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Speaker 2: been chilling, so I can't really complain too much tell you.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Oh I'm okay. Why has it been ship?

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Speaker 2: Dating men is hard? And no man, no man that

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Speaker 2: I've met is down for the sexual things that I

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Speaker 2: want to do in the little block.

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Speaker 1: But we can we can certainly talk about that. We

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Speaker 1: can certainly talk about that. That's what you would rather

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Speaker 1: talk about. It's up to you.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I genuinely just feel so call off guard.

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Speaker 3: I called you like.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how many times.

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Speaker 1: Damn are you? Are you crying right now? Are you sick?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm done crying.

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Speaker 4: I just.

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Speaker 1: Were crying. Okay were you crying before you called?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, all right? So, so what's going on

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Speaker 1: with these uh these men?

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Speaker 2: I am into pegging and I just moved down to

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Speaker 2: the valley from Utah and I have been having such

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Speaker 2: a hard time like finding a guy who isn't just

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Speaker 2: automatically like, oh, no, what the fuck, Like that's that's

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Speaker 2: gay bla blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: I would never.

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Speaker 2: And it's just been annoying and I don't understand why,

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Speaker 2: like at least the men down down here just are

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Speaker 2: open to that, or like I don't know where to

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Speaker 2: find men that are.

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Speaker 3: Open to that.

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Speaker 1: Where have you been looking for these men?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I've just been on the basic dating apps.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're you're going to get the basic men, well.

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Speaker 2: I tried like set Life, and that's creepy and they're

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Speaker 2: scary kind of and like I don't they're just like

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Speaker 2: too too much, like oh you want to peg me,

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Speaker 2: you could diss me too, And I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 2: w wholla, hunt the brakes. I just want to be

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Speaker 2: on top a little bit, you know.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: So you've tried. So you've tried. So you've tried fet Life.

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Speaker 1: What about that Field Field. I think it's like an

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Speaker 1: F E L E L D. I've never been on it,

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Speaker 1: but I have friends who've talked about it as like

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Speaker 1: a like a kink kind of a dating app.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, I'll try it. The only success I've had

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Speaker 2: was on speaking with like the sugar daddies, but that's

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Speaker 2: not really I'm looking for. I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 2: like a I'm not a partner like a boyfriend or whatever,

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Speaker 2: but kind of like a more reliable fuck with buddy

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Speaker 2: that because like, I'm so tired of trying to meet

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Speaker 2: new people every time. I just want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: but then again it's so hard. Like I met guy

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Speaker 2: like being a stuff on Tinder, and I went to

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Speaker 2: his place and he had all this like navy stuff

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Speaker 2: and like he was in the Navy, and I made

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Speaker 2: them the joke and I was like, oh, is that

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Speaker 2: why you're down to be picked because you're in the navy?

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Speaker 2: And he kicked me out.

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Speaker 1: So that was on me trying to no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that that's that's so lame. What the fuck?

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Speaker 2: I kind of hit a little too close to home,

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Speaker 2: I guess why.

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Speaker 1: First of all. First of all, I mean, I wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on, were you were you making a joke insulting

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, you're in the navy, that's why you

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Speaker 1: like to be a sub like a submarine.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was insulting the Navy.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought, you're making a dad joke.

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Speaker 2: No, no, And I only say that because I was

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Speaker 2: engaged to a man who has been in the Navy

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Speaker 1: Go, what was your relationship like with the other navy guy?

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Speaker 1: Was he also a sub.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit like he was down to like

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Speaker 2: about it. And we had already made plans about like

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Speaker 2: So I was like, yeah, I'm not going to start

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Speaker 1: So when you're meeting the guys on like the regular

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Speaker 1: dating apps, how how soon do you bring up the

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Speaker 1: pegging conversation?

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Speaker 2: I mean not right away, probably like a second or

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Speaker 2: third hangout type of thing, for sure. It's it's hard,

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes I haven't even brought it up and I

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Speaker 2: And it's not like that huge of a deal, but

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Speaker 2: I mean it is something like I want to like

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Speaker 2: take turns, like going like topping each other. I think

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Speaker 2: that's hot and that's something that I'm looking for. It

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Speaker 2: just feels so weird to be like just go up

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Speaker 2: Like what do you think? How would you go about that?

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Speaker 1: Well? Well, I don't know. I use it. I think

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Speaker 1: like on the I from my perspective, like if you're

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Speaker 1: a woman on a dating app, like if you start

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Speaker 1: talking about like if you're a guy on a dating

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Speaker 1: course like, uh, you know, an immediate red flag, right.

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Speaker 1: But I think if you're a woman on a dating

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Speaker 1: app and you like put in your bio or something,

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Speaker 1: I am looking for a man to peg, like obviously

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Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna all the people. It's you're you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's going to attract all of the wrong type of people.

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with you, but it but

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Speaker 1: if you filter out all those people, you'll at least,

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Speaker 1: like I think, with it, there'll be like a needle

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Yeah, that's a tactic, I guess. But I

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Speaker 2: also don't want my space and like my name out

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Speaker 2: I want pigment and like I'm looking for like masculine

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Speaker 2: men like I. The man who got me into it

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Speaker 2: is like very he's like a bodybuilder, bisexual, Greek goddess,

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Speaker 2: now I feel like I can't there's no way to

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Speaker 2: find that again. I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: You could attend bodybuilding competitions.

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Speaker 2: Bodybuilding is yeah, you know that's not a bad idea,

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Speaker 2: A good h.

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Speaker 1: How did how did this well? How did you meet?

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Speaker 1: How did you first meet this like bodybuilder guy.

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Speaker 2: It was during COVID up in Salt Lake, just on Tinder.

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Speaker 2: He just happened to be one of the first few

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Speaker 2: up and was super cool and I ended up moving

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Speaker 2: in with him really quick, and like we had a

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Speaker 2: and yeah, just tender, but tender down here in the

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm just not matching with the right people.

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Speaker 1: What is it that you find so weird about them?

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Speaker 2: Every they're just like homophobic, Like they think that a

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I was gonna say a woman having sex

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Speaker 2: So they think, I don't know, maybe being pegged by

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Speaker 2: a woman is quote unquote gay to some people, but

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Speaker 2: like it still is like you're not having sex with

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Speaker 2: the man, you're still like it is still heterosexual. I

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Speaker 2: don't understand. And I guess people the men up in

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Speaker 1: Why as you move to the valley.

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Speaker 2: Family, My family's just been going through a lot of shit.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. How often are you like going on dates

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Speaker 2: Lately, maybe like two or three a month. And I've

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's I feel like my I'm

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Speaker 2: like it's hard to match. Like, yeah, I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry, Gek,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm being really bad conversational with right now.

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Speaker 1: No, I was going to say, well, you live in like,

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Speaker 1: find a guy that will let you peg him within seconds.

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Speaker 1: But the Valley is not the best place to find that.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm yeah, I'm realizing that I might just go

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Speaker 2: back to dating women because like I'm over it.

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Speaker 1: Mhm. I mean that's not such a horrible idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: find a woman that I'll let you peg them.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have like five in my right now.

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Speaker 2: It's just more of the challenge of and and like

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Speaker 2: the it's just so hot to like top a a man,

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Speaker 1: Well, look at it like this. It's uh, well look

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Speaker 1: at look at look at it like this. It's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's good to it's good to yearn I think I

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Speaker 1: think it's good to have something that you're yearning for,

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Speaker 1: because if you're yearning for nothing, you might as well

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Speaker 1: be dead. So so so I almost think that you

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Speaker 1: having this uh fantasy that one day you'll find a

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Speaker 1: him in the ass. It's almost it's almost a better

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Speaker 1: thing for you to have than actually having it. You know,

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Speaker 1: it keeps you going, keeps you hunting. So look at

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Speaker 1: it like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that outlook, Thank you, Dick.

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Speaker 1: What's your name again?

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Speaker 2: Presley?

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Speaker 1: Presley? Presley? Is there anything else you want to say?

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Speaker 1: It's the people of the computer.

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Speaker 2: Before we go, I love y'all, and stay freaky beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Presley. I have a good night.

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Speaker 2: By you.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, how are you good?

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Speaker 4: Is this Lyle?

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Speaker 1: It is? Who is this?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Hey man, I'm gonna go by David.

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Speaker 1: David. What's going on, David? How's your evening going?

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Speaker 4: My evening is going pretty good. I got called off

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Speaker 4: hear her now. And I'm watching that new show with

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Speaker 4: Tim Robinson, The Chair Company. Pretty good. How about you?

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Speaker 4: How's your night going?

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Speaker 1: It's gone all right. I am recording my podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about my life too much. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about my life too much. I think life is

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Speaker 1: Well, because I think life is meant to be like

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Speaker 1: you know there's like distractions. Yeah, there's some people who

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Speaker 4: And then like after that, I started looking at other

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, I've been saying that I want to

438
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Speaker 1: do that for a while, Like get off of all

439
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: social media and get off of like like dating apps,

440
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: and get off of like all these fucking things. They

441
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: just take up little bits of time and attention and whatnot.

442
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: And yeah, I need to do that. I have a friend,

443
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: well you know, I mean he's like he was also

444
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: on a bit of a technology fast and he seems

445
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: a lot more grounded as a results, And I feel

446
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: like I feel like I could get there. I feel

447
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: like I always feel like I never have enough time

448
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: or enough energy to tackle the things that I really

449
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: want to tackle. But there always seems to be enough

450
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: time and energy to do random crap. You know, it's

451
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: so easy to get distracted.

452
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all these distractions, man. I mean, I gotta

453
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: say one of the things that really helped like me

454
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: initially was just like finding an old piece of like

455
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: junk hardware. Like I have this old iPad and I

456
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: just like moved move my shit there, so at least

457
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: getting it off your phone, you know, and put it

458
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: onto a device that like you can still access it's

459
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: still available, but you know, just at home, and it

460
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: may be a little clunky, so you might get frustrated

461
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: with it, so you'll put it down and maybe do

462
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 4: something else. I don't know, but like, you know, just

463
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: like you said the other day, like this stuff is

464
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: manufactured like to buy design to like frustrate us and

465
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: like divide us and distract us. And you know, one

466
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: of the things that I thought was like really interesting,

467
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 4: like coming out of like one of these hikes out

468
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: in the bad Lands. My buddy and I stopped at

469
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Speaker 4: this restaurant out in Rapid City and we sat down

470
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Speaker 4: for some uh for some chicken alfredo at the at

471
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Speaker 4: the bar. And we're sitting there and then over to

472
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Speaker 4: our right, a few chairs down there was just this,

473
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Speaker 4: uh there's this older couple that was chatting it up

474
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Speaker 4: with all the older folks around them, and they were

475
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: very clearly like jumpers, like you know, they're like the

476
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: stuff that was coming out of their mouth was just

477
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: like kind of absurd, but like, you know, they they

478
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: turned over to us, and I look Hispanic and my buddy,

479
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: you know, he doesn't look like keeps from around there either,

480
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: and you know, they just we struck up a conversation

481
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: and just shot the We just shot the shit. And

482
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Speaker 4: you know it was like, you know, when you remove

483
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: that like element, you know, it's a lot easier to

484
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: come together. I feel like like I feel like, have

485
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Speaker 4: you ever seen this this hilarious video of like these

486
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: two dogs just like going at it, like and there's

487
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: this fence and and and they're like going at each other,

488
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: like with the fence in the way, and then the

489
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: guy moves the fence aside, and suddenly the dogs are

490
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Speaker 4: just like, you know, like whatever, you know, and then

491
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Speaker 4: he puts the fence back, and then they're going at

492
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Speaker 4: it again. And I feel like that fence is really

493
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: like the algorithm, dude, and it's we just gotta find

494
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Speaker 4: a way to at least recognize it for what it

495
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: is and figure out a way to just you know,

496
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: not let it get the better of us, you know.

497
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: And I'm only touching on a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: It's so I was thinking about this the other day,

499
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Speaker 1: Like I talked to so many people on this podcast,

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00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: and you know, in doing like the live shows and

501
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: in doing you know, on the street and stuff, and

502
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: like everyone that I've talked to from doing this, like

503
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine ninety nine percent of people are

504
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: like cordial and like, you know, easy to talk to

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00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: and like like they're all like good experiences. Right. But

506
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: then I see comments. I see comments on like Instagram right,

507
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: and on like spy and on YouTube where people are

508
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: like stupid and hostile and judge and all these different things,

509
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like and also just living my life I

510
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: meet people out and about, and I'm like, theoretically, these

511
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: are the same people, So like, what the fuck is

512
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: it that is making people so like.

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Speaker 4: Dude, I don't know, but like, you know, you remember

514
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: you remember South Park that one season that focused on

515
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: like Kyle's dad is skankant. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what this.

516
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Is, dude.

517
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: And it's and it's but but there's a part of

518
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: it where it's like, you know, I I've never felt like,

519
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: you know, like some inclination to like act like a

520
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: penis online, you know, like behind behind like some like mask.

521
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: But so many people feel like so I don't know,

522
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: like emboldened to just be a penis online and and

523
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 4: I don't get it. And and I'm sure like if

524
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Speaker 4: if it was like those to their wives or their

525
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: their bosses or their children or whatever, I'm sure they'd

526
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: be fucking embarrassed. But like what, like, I don't know,

527
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: there's there's some other part of it too, Like it's

528
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: something I don't understand, Like I don't surround myself with

529
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: people that act like that, but like it's it's it's odd,

530
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: it's odd behavior.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm.

532
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Speaker 1: So okay, now that you're enlightened, in your life? What

533
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: do you what do you do?

534
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say like I'm enlightened, I just know. I

535
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: just would say I feel I feel more, I feel better.

536
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: So what do you What does your day to day

537
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: look like? Now?

538
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: Oh well, I've got so my main job, I work

539
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: in a research lab and I uh, I help take

540
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: care of the mice. So that's like basic, like just

541
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 4: seven does to be thirty every day. And then I

542
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: had a part time job where I'm a server at

543
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: a restaurant. But now that the season's over, that's a

544
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 4: little bit more sparse. So I mean before I was

545
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 4: doing like sixty seventy hours a week, but now it's

546
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 4: like pretty pretty open here and there. I'll do some

547
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: landscaping stuff with my brother's dad with my plants around

548
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: the city. But right now I'm just kind of cooling

549
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 4: it and trying to pinch the pennies until it gets

550
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: warmer again. I do have a few trips lined up.

551
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: I'm going to see my grandmother in Virginia for her

552
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: birthday this weekend, and I'm going to Washington Island with

553
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: my buddies next week, and then going to see my

554
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: cousin in Minneapolis. The week after that, So I'm getting

555
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: out there moving around.

556
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that all sounds great.

557
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about you or do you have any big,

558
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 4: big trips coming up? Saw, I think I saw something

559
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 4: really you went somewhere very interesting recently.

560
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was in Iraq. I still haven't I

561
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: still haven't finished the uh the video for that, but

562
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: that'll I'm hoping to post that video before November ends.

563
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: So can I ask like what prompted like that? That's

564
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: such an interesting like choice of location, Like what prompted

565
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: you to want to go out there?

566
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: Oh it's kind of bored.

567
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I love that. Just bored in Iraq?

568
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is what happens, is like I'm just I'm

569
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: so I'm just like restless and I have to do

570
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: I feel and I have this thing in my gut

571
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: where it's like I have to do grand exciting things

572
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: with my life or else I just feel like I'm dying.

573
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: It's it's it's just a thing I've always had. It's

574
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: the thing I've always had and it and it bites

575
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: me in the fucking tits. But it's just a thing

576
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: I have. And so often like the easiest, this is

577
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: the most the most logistically simple way to achieve that

578
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: is to travel to places, because you know, all you

579
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: have to do yes, like like for example, right, like

580
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: if you like, if I want to do a big, grand,

581
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: cool thing and I have to choose between like writing

582
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: a book or traveling to Iraq, it's gonna be easier

583
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: to like, I can do the emotional I can do

584
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: like the emotional whatever it is of like going on

585
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: that adventure way way more than I can do the

586
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: the work of like sitting alone in a room trying

587
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: to write just get restless. It's adhd.

588
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

589
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I like that ship, you know. I mean also I

590
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: like doing things that like uh, you know, I getting

591
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: to go there and like connect with people and like

592
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: see the place and you know it's it was. It

593
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: was really cool. I don't know if I have like

594
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: other I have other places I want to go. I

595
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I have other like big crazy adventures.

596
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, and then I'm going to Canada November sixth.

597
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm doing a show November sixth, I'm doing a show

598
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: in Edmonton at Macewell.

599
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 4: Then on then on the east or west or side

600
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: of Canada. I forget.

601
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I want to say. It's in the middle, right right in.

602
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: The middle for sure. Okay. Nice. You know, like, if

603
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: I ever get myself at the Canada with something I've

604
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 4: always wanted to do is take their their train from

605
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: coast to coast. That sounds sounds like a lot of fun.

606
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: I'm trying to trying to do an Amtrak ride from

607
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 4: where I'm at out out to Alway sometime soon and

608
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: rent like a room met for like the forty six

609
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 4: hours you're on it. But that's a little a little

610
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: little pricey at the moment.

611
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: David, it was nice talking to you about life. This

612
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: was this felt like a classic heady talking about life thing.

613
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, you've inspired me to take a

614
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a chill pill perhaps.

615
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: Even if it's just for a few days, Like it

616
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: just feels good to just like just you know, just

617
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: sitn't stare at a wall or something. David, don't don't think.

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00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

619
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

620
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess drink water, call your mom and say

621
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: some gratitudes in the mornings.

622
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Speaker 1: Beautiful. Thank you very much for calling, David.

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Speaker 4: Take care, have a great day.

624
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Speaker 1: YouTube. Bye, Hello, what's up? How you doing? How's life

625
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Speaker 1: is this?

626
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Speaker 3: Lyle?

627
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: This is who is this? Who is this? Who is this?

628
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Speaker 3: I said, my name is Brooke. It's a fake name,

629
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Speaker 3: but it's Brooke.

630
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: How's life going, Brooke?

631
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Speaker 3: Let's see it's okay. I I don't know if I

632
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: should like it's kind of gross, but I just got

633
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: a yeast infection for the first time, and I don't know. Yeah,

634
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't. I've never experienced this and I have to

635
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: go to work in like an hour. The shit sucks.

636
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: U What is what are the symptoms of the yeast infection?

637
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: It's gross. It's like the classics, like you know, discharge.

638
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know much about that?

639
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: Tell me. I mean, I mean, uh, like, are there

640
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: can you wear? Like put on a tampon and it

641
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: makes it not happen, It makes it happen less.

642
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: That would be such an easy solution. I wish there

643
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 3: is like an over the counter medication that I bought today,

644
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: so got to try that out. But you have to. Yeah,

645
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: it's kind of like a tampon. You put medication in

646
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 3: your vagina and you like sleep with that in and

647
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: it goes away in like three days. But yeah, for

648
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: next three days, I'm gonna be like in pains, but

649
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm really not trying to focus on that, trying to

650
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: stay positive.

651
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe we could talk about something else and it'll

652
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: distract you from the East infection.

653
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, let's see, I'm moving and let's see like ten

655
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: days to a mountain town. It's a mountaintown in Colorado.

656
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: It's a ski town, and I'm stoked. Wow, Okay, this Sorry,

657
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: we talked like a long time ago, so it's just

658
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: like so funny to be talking to you again. We

659
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: talked like three years ago about some stupid shit, but

660
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm a changed woman and I'm an adult now. I

661
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: feel like the last time I called you, I think

662
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: I was like inebriated. I don't remember exactly what we

663
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: talked about, but it's good to talk to you again.

664
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad that you're doing better. What's changed in

665
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: your life since then?

666
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: Let's see, I graduated college, got a corporate ass dumb

667
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 3: ass jobs for I had that job for like seven

668
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: months and it was a really good paying job, like

669
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: within my industry that I studied, and then like I

670
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: fucking hated it.

671
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: Oh.

672
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: I actually think I texted you about this, but I

673
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: think this is something I wanted to talk about with you.

674
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that.

675
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: Like industry. I was a graphic designer for an environmental

676
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: engineering firm, and graphic design is like that's what I

677
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: studied in school, and it's just turned into this like

678
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: horrible thing I hate. Like I quit the corporate job,

679
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: I got started freelancing. I got some gigs within the

680
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: music industry, which was super exciting and fun at first.

681
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: Then like as time went on, I'm realizing how fucked

682
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: up the music industry is, and like everybody is. It's

683
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: just all fucked up, and it's made me despise graphic design.

684
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: And that's part of the reason why I'm moving to

685
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: Steamboat is because or probably shouldn't have disclosed the area

686
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: where I'm moving, but moving to a ski town because yeah,

687
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sick of trying to do the grind, the

688
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: grind mindset and like the whole I don't know, graphic

689
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: design is just stupid. I'm over it. I fucking hate it.

690
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I feel like I've been on every

691
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: single side of it, like publication to illustration to branding

692
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: to merchandise design, Like I've done so much in the

693
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: past three years since I graduated college and and yeah,

694
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just trying to escape and try something new,

695
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: move to a ski town, see how that works out.

696
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, what do you What are your plans

697
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: in the ski toown? Are you gonna get an the job?

698
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? I have. So I quit doing design full time

699
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 3: eight months ago, and I was doing it part time

700
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: throughout this summer, but I just took my last project

701
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: last month. I'm swearing off any freelance. So in that meantime,

702
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 3: I've had like a part time restaurant job serving tables,

703
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: and so I'll be doing that up at this at

704
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: the ski town and then working part time at the

705
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: resort as well. And I've got those locked in, So

706
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm stoked about that.

707
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: That's pretty sweet. That sounds like a nice fun job.

708
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: Like serving at a restaurant.

709
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

710
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be fun because, like I mean, I'm assuming

711
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: it'll be really good money because all of these tourists

712
00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: coming and visiting the town and trying to spend a

713
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: bunch of money on good food on their vacation. I

714
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: feel like it'll be it'll be good for me.

715
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

716
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: Do you like Yeah, yeah, I'm hoping. So, I mean,

717
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: it's expensive, it's fuck to live there, so I better

718
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 3: be making good tips or else I can't live there.

719
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: What were you going to say?

720
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like, I, you know what you

721
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: said so many things in the previous calls that I

722
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 3: wanted to bring up. Sure, fuck, what did you say?

723
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: You said something that really resonates? Oh my god, I'm

724
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: I'm blinking anything.

725
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: Anything you can vaguely remember about it, we can remember

726
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: it together.

727
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: It was like the guy who's talking about social media,

728
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: he was you were saying, how that you you delete

729
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: or you haven't deleted social media? But you you don't

730
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: really seem like a slave to it, Like you don't

731
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: seem addicted to it.

732
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: I don't seem addicted to it.

733
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: Is that what you said? No?

734
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no no, I'm definitely addicted to it.

735
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, but you but you like want to

736
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: change that or like yeah, because I I what he

737
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: was talking about putting like Instagram on his old iPad

738
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: is something that I have tried out. I put it.

739
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: I just have it on my desktop computer. And that

740
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: makes me not want to go on Instagram at all.

741
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm not so much addicted to like Reddit or anything

742
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: else but Instagram. I'm on like Facebook reels and that

743
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: shit sucks. Like I have Facebook on my phone and

744
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: sometimes when I'm really craving like that short term addiction

745
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: brain rot stuff, like there's no brain rot on there.

746
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: It's all like millennial stupid shit. And it really does

747
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: help because it's like it makes me snap into the

748
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: moments of as like why the fuck am I watching

749
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: this Facebook real bullshit? Ye, I would say, like that's

750
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: been my solution, just taking it off my phone and

751
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: then keeping Facebook to remind me like, oh wait, this

752
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: is dumb, you know.

753
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: M oh yeah, okay, So you keep just one social

754
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: media to remind you how much you hate social media,

755
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: as opposed to checking the revolving door of seven different

756
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: social medias to yeah, you know, then remember that you

757
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: hate social media. Yeah, it saves a lot of time.

758
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

759
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: I think I read it as good for that, because

760
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: every time I go on and read it, I'm like, yeah,

761
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: I don't need to I don't need to be here.

762
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, But I'm on Reddit for a lot of

763
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: like art stuff, and I like to look at that,

764
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 3: but like Reddit for yeah, Reddit for dumb shit. Yeah,

765
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: I get that.

766
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's how they get you, right, is that

767
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: you're on there for one thing and then it attacks

768
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: you with all these fucking other things.

769
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: Exactly. Like especially Instagram, the algorithm, it's like it's so good.

770
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: It keeps me going, like I don't know, there's you

771
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 3: know that like picture of like the miner who turns

772
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: around like right before the diamonds like that meme.

773
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: No oh wait, yes, yes I do, Yes, I do, Yes,

774
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: I do.

775
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: That's how it feels to be scrolling Instagram reels and

776
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 3: it's like I just need to give up at some point,

777
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: but I know the next video is going to be

778
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: really good.

779
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: Well, well it's not exactly like that meme because uh,

780
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: there's no you know, I don't really know what diamond

781
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: you're searching for, because even if you find a good video,

782
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: it's like, well you're gonna keep scrolling.

783
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: You know.

784
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: Wow, that was actually really like I like that. Yeah,

785
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: what am I searching for on Instagram reels? Am I

786
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: trying to? Like? Sometimes I'm you know, how Instagram added

787
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: like the liked by feature so you can see like

788
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: the people you follow who like the reels. Yeah, sometimes

789
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 3: I feel like I like have have stopped liking reels

790
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: or liking certain reels because I want people to think

791
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: that I like that video or like unlike you know

792
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Yeah.

793
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: You're trying to like socially signal that you like something exactly.

794
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: And then it's like, well, yeah, like maybe they like

795
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: that too, and then maybe I don't fucking know. But

796
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 3: then it's like some things I'm scared to like because

797
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this doesn't align with my you know

798
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: what I putting out there on Instagram, Like, this doesn't

799
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: go with my brand, I guess, which is so stupid.

800
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: I'm not like an influencer or anything. And this is

801
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: why I deleted this shit because I don't I don't

802
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: care about this. I don't know why why would I

803
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: even care about that? Why would I care about unliking

804
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: shit on Instagram or like what I like? I don't know,

805
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

806
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah, it's like, why

807
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: would you even care? It doesn't matter, it is it

808
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: is no offense, a dumb thing to care about, but

809
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: it's yeah's good to understand that it's a dumb thing

810
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: to care about, Like like curating your feed and stuff

811
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: I think is a fool's errand.

812
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 3: I yeah, I had this like roommate that really wanted

813
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: to be an influencer once and she like it was

814
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: like I don't judge. I really like, I really try

815
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: not to judge people, but this is something that it

816
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: would just be Like she'd be recording us like going

817
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: out to eat and being like, come with me to

818
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: try a new restaurant in the downtown. I'd be like,

819
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: shut up, like literally, what are you doing? You have

820
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: ten followers? Like this is so dumb, Like what what

821
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: is the point of that? Like the restaurant isn't paying

822
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: you to post it? Like you're not getting anything out

823
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: of it except for attention and that that's what they

824
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 3: get out of it. Mm hm m hm.

825
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

826
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: Fuck social media.

827
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, social media kind of success. I mean, I have

828
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: it to thank for the career I've been able to

829
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: make out of it, but I'd like to not be

830
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: on it at all.

831
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: Do you have like a social media person that does

832
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: all your shit?

833
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 4: Uh?

834
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: No, No I don't. It's just me. Well, I should

835
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: probably get to get someone. I should probably get someone

836
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: to like start doing that shick because I haven't. I

837
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: mean I fell off significantly, mainly because I just got

838
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: burnt out from like doing all that shit, and I

839
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: I had trouble. Yeah, I mainly just got burnt out

840
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: from doing all that shit and and I kind of

841
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: started feel like I don't even know what the point

842
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: of this shit is anymore.

843
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think I remembered what I was

844
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 3: gonna tell you that. Okay, yes, so this wasn't regarding

845
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: the last call, but a few episodes ago. I think

846
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: you mentioned, uh, you don't believe that everything happens for

847
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: a reason. I think that's fucking stupid. I think everything

848
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: does happen for a reason. And I think the whole

849
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: like narrative we're on a floating rock, nothing matters, blah

850
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: blah blah, that is so dumb. I think that's like

851
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: the worst way to approach anything. And I think everything

852
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 3: happens for a reason because it's like I don't know

853
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: the proper philoso it's de termed, but like, you know,

854
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 3: the determinism ideal ideology or whatever. Yeah, sure, yeah, I

855
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: feel like, would you prescribe.

856
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: To that or.

857
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

858
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: I definitely uh secretly subscribe to some form of determinism,

859
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: But I want you to I want to hear more

860
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: about why you think that's stupid, because you seem like

861
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: you have an alternative viewpoint.

862
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: I guess I yeah, I wanted to get your perspective

863
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: a little bit more solified, But I guess I just

864
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: like I just I feel like I've seen a lot

865
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: of people in my like interpersonal relationships that are like

866
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: life doesn't matter, run a floating reps bucket. I'll go

867
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: on that date tonight, I'll go out to this concert Yolo,

868
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: you know, like that mentality, and I feel like that

869
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: fuels this. It just it creates this. Uh it doesn't

870
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 3: have any roots in reality like it it just has

871
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: no legs, Like it's just like a very like the

872
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: Yolo mentality is so like you should make choices that

873
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: matter because that will affect everything, and that will affect

874
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 3: your future decisions, do you know what I mean? Like

875
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: you shouldn't just carelessly make choices because you think it

876
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, because that wouldn't it's probably gonna hurt you

877
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: in the long run. Or it's like you're not deciding

878
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 3: anything with your gut or your brain or your heart.

879
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: You're basing it all on Like the Yolo mentality you know,

880
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: you're basing it in like the present moment, but the

881
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: present moment doesn't have like any legs further than that,

882
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 3: you know. But if you decide and make decisions based

883
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 3: like you know, uh practically and like with your brain,

884
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 3: or if you have you make decisions based on feeling

885
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: or your gut, at least that's rooted in something, and

886
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 3: it's probably based on some sort of series of subconscious

887
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: events that you've occurred to make you choose that decision.

888
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 3: I just feel like the yolo mentality, it's a plague

889
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 3: to our society. I feel like so many people are

890
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: are are getting hurt by it. So that's what I think.

891
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, No, I agree with you. I think that

892
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about like nihilism, and I think that nihilism is.

893
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: But it's rebranded to be like cool, like the trendy

894
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: thing to do.

895
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: Well, that's like an what you're talking about is like

896
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: an optimistic nihilism.

897
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 4: But I agree with.

898
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: You, I don't. I don't know if I agree with

899
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: you necessarily that nihilism isn't rooted in some form of reality,

900
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: but I totally agree with you that it's not helpful.

901
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: It's not helpful. At all. It's really really not helpful

902
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: at all. I don't like it. I don't like determinism.

903
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't like nihilism. I yeah, I hate it, and

904
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: I hate it. I'd so much rather be Although I

905
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: think when you're talking about things like, oh, Yolo, I'll

906
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: go on this date and I'll go to this concert whatever,

907
00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: I think that these are people who are using the

908
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: fact that, uh, you know, I mean, I don't think

909
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Yolo is the worst ever motto. I think it's good

910
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: to recognize that you know your time. I think it's

911
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: good to recognize that your shit is finite and make

912
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: decisions based off of that that there is really no future.

913
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yes, I do agree with that. I think that,

914
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 3: but it is like important that I don't know, I

915
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: think it's important to think about like there is a

916
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 3: future and like this does have repercussions, and I don't know,

917
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 3: I feel like it's just kind of it also, like, uh,

918
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: what devalues the present moment as well, like or like

919
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 3: you know, devalues everything else around you. It's a little

920
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 3: bit selfish. Also, like the Yelo mentality or the float

921
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 3: We're on a floating rock, so it doesn't matters mentality

922
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 3: I think is like it's just it's not good. It's bad.

923
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: In what way do you think it devalues the present moment,

924
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: because because you would argue that that it's sincerely that

925
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: it uh values the present moment right a lot.

926
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is like the general argument. But I

927
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: do think that, like we're on a floating rock. It's like,

928
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: well not to not to get like so woo woo,

929
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: but it is like we're on the earth. The earth

930
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: is our home. This is like a finite resource we

931
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: live on. We can't just like make careless decisions about

932
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: this floating rock is very important, and like everybody lives

933
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: here and we have to treat this environment, this space,

934
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 3: our community with like more premeditated actions. I think that, like, yeah,

935
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: I think that like it devalues the present moment because

936
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: in the present moment, we're living on this shared planet,

937
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: the shared space, and so it's like my present moment's

938
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: more important than anybody else's or like I don't think

939
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: that necessarily in the context of going to a concert

940
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 3: or on a date, but you know, it can get

941
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: like spiral pretty fast, and I don't know, I feel

942
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: like I've just seen it happen within my friends making

943
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: careless decisions or family. So that's really what it's rooted in.

944
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: No, I see, I see what you mean. I see

945
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: what I see what you mean. And again, like it's

946
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: we have the same information, but we're having two different

947
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: perspectives on it. And I think you have a good

948
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: I think you have a good perspective. I think that

949
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: that's that's a totally reasonable one.

950
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're on this like two sides of

951
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: the same coin.

952
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: What's your name again?

953
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: Uh? Brooke?

954
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: Brooke?

955
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: Mm hm, oh my god, the last time, go ahead.

956
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say the last time. It's funny

957
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: because I started off this conversation about my use infection,

958
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: but the last time I called you was about an

959
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: STD I had. I have a bad track record on

960
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: the GETO Show.

961
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad track record. That's just

962
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's just your life.

963
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: It's just life. You're there for me in my darkest moment.

964
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm honored to be there for you in your darkest moments. Brooke,

965
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to say to the

966
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

967
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: Fred Love show, Love, check up on your friends, drink

968
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: some water, say hid to your grandma, love.

969
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: You, thank you, Broke, have a good night to bye bye.

970
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: But I agree with Brooks postulate that I'd certainly rather

971
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: think like Brooke, that there is a future and we

972
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: should be doing stuff now, whether you know, in the

973
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: world or in our own lives, that are kind of

974
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: like plant the seeds for a better future. So I

975
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: do agree. I do agree with her perspective in that way. Hey, folks,

976
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: what's up. It's me. It's Lyle and uh, we're going

977
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: to do a thing where we end this episode by

978
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: reading viewer mail. I've been enjoying doing these hybrid geck

979
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: mail phone call episodes, so let's do some viewer mail.

980
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: If you want to submit view or mail for the future,

981
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: you can mail me or you know, I mean email me.

982
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to, you can mail me,

983
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: but you got to find out where I live first,

984
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: and I don't keep that information public. Don't try to

985
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: figure out where I live. Don't do that. Just just

986
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: send me an email. It's way easy. You can email

987
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: me at therapy geckomail at gmail dot com. But before

988
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: you do that, let's listen to some people who already

989
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: emailed me at therapy geckogmail dot com and let's see

990
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: what they have to say, all right, subject line Gek

991
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: mail from Dylan. This is from Dylan. Hi Gek. I'm

992
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: twenty six and a longtime listener, big fan of everything

993
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: you do. I'm not the best with words, but I'll

994
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: do my best. I love traveling and going on new adventures,

995
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: and I really want to travel overseas again. I live

996
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: near Sydney, Australia, and the only place I've ever been

997
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: overseas is Bali about fifteen times. Now, WHOA fifteen times?

998
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: That's a lot of times. I started going there when

999
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: I was a kid with my mom, dad, and sister.

1000
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: Later on, my parents divorced. I think because my mom cheated,

1001
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: though no one ever told me for sure. I never

1002
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: pushed my dad about it because he's not great at

1003
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: talking about that kind of thing. After the divorce, my

1004
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: mom moved to Bali with her new partner, while I

1005
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: stayed in Australia with my dad. About a year ago,

1006
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,959
Speaker 1: I started visiting my mom and Bali on my own.

1007
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: My dad didn't want to come, so I would travel

1008
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: by myself. I was only about ten at the time. Wait,

1009
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: I said about a year later, right, not a year ago,

1010
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: because that would mean it was eleven. I just want

1011
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: to make sure. About a year later, I started visiting

1012
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: my mom and Bali on my own. My dad didn't

1013
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: want to come, so I would travel by myself. I

1014
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: was only about ten at the time. Someone from the

1015
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: airport would help me through the lines and make sure

1016
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: I got there safely. It made me feel pretty special.

1017
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: You just remember that movie Unaccompanied Miners. This is not

1018
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: part of the email. This is just me doing a thing.

1019
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: It's like about oh yeah, it's like a two thousand

1020
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: and six movie about kids on Christmas their unaccompanied miners.

1021
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember that movie, all right. Sorry, through the

1022
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: rest of this cause email that I'm gonna stop. I'm

1023
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: gonna stop interrupt, I'm gonna read the email. I even

1024
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: brought back a few laser pointers to sell to my schoolmates,

1025
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: which I now realized was a dumb idea since they're

1026
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: illegal here, but at the time it felt like a

1027
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: cool little business. The whole point is that it's illegal.

1028
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: That's it's like, that's like saying I used to sell

1029
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: weed in high school, which I realized was a dumb

1030
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: idea because it's illegal. It's like, of course, you know, okay,

1031
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: all right, I really will stop interrupting this time. Why

1032
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: are laser pointers illegal in Australia. I don't know if

1033
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: this is frustrating for you guys to listen to, but

1034
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: hold on, Why are laser pointers illegal in Australia. Laser

1035
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: pointers are not completely illegal in Australia, but are strictly regulated,

1036
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: primarily because aiming them at an aircraft is a serious

1037
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: and dangerous offense. Okay, but can you really can a

1038
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: laser pointer really fucking go that far? And also why

1039
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: just Australia, They're not the only one that have planes.

1040
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Those trips to Bali were amazing. I got

1041
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: to spend my school holidays with my mom, and she

1042
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: had more kids there, my three younger half brothers. Sadly,

1043
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them since I was sixteen. My mom

1044
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: passed away from breast cancer when I was fifteen, and

1045
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: the last time I went to Bali was for her funeral.

1046
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: After that, I didn't want to go back. Airplanes just

1047
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: reminded me of her and flying became too hard emotionally.

1048
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: I'd love to see my brothers again, just to make

1049
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: sure they're okay, but their dad left a bad impression

1050
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: on me. When my mom died only two weeks later,

1051
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: he emptied my savings account. What the fuck about twenty

1052
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: thousand dollars that my dad had been putting money into

1053
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: since I was born. That's fucked up because it was

1054
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: a shared account with my mom and her husband at

1055
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: the time. There was nothing I could do. Dude, that's

1056
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: fucked up. Is there really nothing you could do that's

1057
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: fucked up? Man? There's no way to say, like, is

1058
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: that I guess? Damn? Yeah, I guess. If it's a

1059
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: shared account with your mom, like he legally can do

1060
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: that, that sucks. I'm sorry, man, Damn that made me lose

1061
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: trust in him, and it's part of why I'm scared

1062
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: to reach out now. I don't even know if my

1063
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: brothers remember me. They were all toddlers when my mom

1064
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: passed away, But I still think about them and hope

1065
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: they're doing all right. These days, I try to stay positive.

1066
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: I've got a beautiful wife, and together we've worked hard

1067
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: to fire to buy our first property in a country town.

1068
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: We're building our dream house, and I hope that one

1069
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: day my brothers might find me and maybe we can

1070
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: share a joint together and catch up on everything we missed. Wow,

1071
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: what an email. Thanks for sending this, Dylan.

1072
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 3: This is.

1073
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: What a story you've got. You seem like a really

1074
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: nice guy, Dylan. I'm sorry to hear that your stepdad

1075
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: did that to you when you were a kid. Uh No,

1076
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's worth reaching out to. I mean

1077
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: that's a really rotten fucking thing to do. But I

1078
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: don't know the half brothers right like. I mean, you

1079
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: could do a little facebooking, I'm sure, and try to

1080
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: find them. I'm sure if you wanted to, you can

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Speaker 1: do a little facebooking. If you have a you have

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01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: a wife, and shit, I'm sure you're I don't it

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: doesn't say exactly how old you are, but I'm gonna

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: guess you're at least in your late twenties. And yeah,

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01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: maybe I haven't seen them in a you know, over

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01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: a decade, but I think it's worth it to do

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01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of facebooking and reach out to them.

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01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: How are things going? I wish I could talk to

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01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: this guy. If you Dylan, if you, if you hear this,

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: send me a I mean giving you a call on

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: the podcast sometime. I want to. I want to talk

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01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: to you. I want to hear how your your dad

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01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: is doing. I want to know about more about your life.

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01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: That's cool, man, I'm glad that you That's really hard

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01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: to lose your mom at fifteen, but you still went

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: on to, uh, you know, make a proper life for yourself. Brother.

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01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: That's really cool. That's really cool. Yeah, you should reach

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01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: out to your half siblings see how they're doing on

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01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: Mate book or whatever they got in Australia. Thanks for

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01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: sharing that story, Dylan. Sorry, sorry I kept interrupting it

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: with the stupid laser porter thing. Although I am I

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01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: still don't get why they're illegal in in Melbourne or

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: in all of Australia. Okay, I'm looking at my Google

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01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: Chrome window and it says gek mail from Dylan Unaccompanied

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01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: Miners Wikipedia and then r Laser's legal on to Reddit.

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01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: All right, this is from Charles subject line what is camouflage?

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01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 3: Hi, Lyle.

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01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: My name is Charlie. I'm from England and I saw

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: you live at the Clapham grand I ate three hot

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01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: dogs at the show, very stoned. It was amazing. Thank you, Charlie.

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01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: Me and my brother currently have a disagreement about camouflage.

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01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: My brother made the point that leopard print genes must

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01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: be camouflage, as leopard's fur is camouflage in its natural habitat.

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: I believe that once the camo is taken out of

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01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: the environment it blends in it is no longer camouflage

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01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: and is now just a funky pattern. Therefore, animal print

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01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: genes aren't camouflage, unless if you're in a jungle. We

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01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: would love your insight ps come back to England.

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 4: Hmm.

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: I will try to come back to England. But about

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01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: the camouflage thing, I don't really have an opinion on this,

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01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: but I like the way that your brain is going

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01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: with this, right because listen, nobody who buys camo genes

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01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: or leopard print genes is using them for the purpose

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01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: of camouflage. They're buying it because it is a funky pattern.

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01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: But just because the thing is not being utilized for

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: its intended purpose at the time it is being used,

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01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: does that necessarily mean that it is not that thing.

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: It's an interesting like a philosophical conundrum. It's like a

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01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: ship a thesis kind of a thing. I like to

1131
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: be contrarian, so I'm gonna join you in saying that

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: leper print genes are not camouflage. They're just a funky pattern.

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01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: And it sounds like it pisses off your brother that

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: you said that, And I think that's kind of funny.

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with you on that that it's

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01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: not camouflage, is just a funky pattern. All right. This

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01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: is from Thinn subject line, whatever you put out, you

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01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: get back, Hey Lyle, longtime listener here. Recently I moved

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01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: away from home to study abroad for a year. Just

1140
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: for a bit of context. Like the majority of people

1141
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: in Ireland my age, I have lived at home with

1142
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: parents my entire life, even though it's only a year.

1143
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: When making the decision to live away, I was filled

1144
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: with a lot of anxiety about what would change in

1145
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: my life and if things would be different after moving.

1146
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 1: Even though these are understandable fears, I'm really glad I

1147
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: decided to move. As much as I loved my home

1148
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: and my family and friends, I feel like the version

1149
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: of me that stayed would be much less fulfilled than

1150
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: the current me that left. It's also cool dad lore

1151
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: for the future. Going into this, I wanted to treat

1152
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: it as a fresh start. I decided to be more

1153
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: confident and open. It wasn't as easy at the start,

1154
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: but now I've made a lot of new friends and

1155
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm still keeping in touch with my friends back home.

1156
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: This experience has also made me much more open to

1157
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: trying new things and following my dreams. I've gotten more

1158
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: into music, and I'm following my passions more openly and honestly,

1159
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: as I used to feel pretty embarrassed saying out loud

1160
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: that I wanted to make music. I'm still learning and adjusting,

1161
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely a lot less scared of change. If

1162
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: I've learned one thing from this experience so far, it's

1163
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: that whatever you put out into the universe, you could

1164
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: often get back. I've made friends with a lot of

1165
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: new people who both share interest with me and are

1166
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: into things that I'm not really into myself. Thanks for

1167
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: doing the show. Even though I recommend studying abroad, it

1168
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: can get pretty lonely sometimes, so having a familiar voice

1169
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: can be pretty nice. Hope to call in someday. Thanks.

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, finn. I really really strongly believe Listen, guys,

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01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: I get it.

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01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: I know.

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01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: I know that not everyone has the means to be

1174
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: able to leave their hometown. But if you do, or

1175
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: if you have an inkling that you might want to try,

1176
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: I recommend it. You know, I think you know any

1177
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: of my life philosophies or whatever. They only come from

1178
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: how I'm wired and everyone's wired differently. But I really

1179
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: think it's like, you know, I don't know, I don't know. Man,

1180
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: you only live for such a short amount of time.

1181
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: You should go and see the fucking world. So good

1182
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 1: for you, Finn. This is from Chris. Subject line, first

1183
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: time get mailer. Hey, Lyle, my name is Republicus. Okay,

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep Chris, I mean Republicists whatever. I'm not

1185
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: gonna blur. I don't think I'm not gonna cut out

1186
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: your real name, but Chris Republicus okay.

1187
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm kind of new to the community. I've seen the

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01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: show before. I've heard some good things talked about on

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: the show, and it has made me want to reach

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01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: out and see what advice I can get or give back.

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01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm married, thirty four year old male to a gorgeous woman,

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: and I have three boys. It's cool. I like being

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01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: a father. It's nice having some boys, you know, me

1195
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: and my boys. That wasn't that wasn't in his email.

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01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: That was me commenting on his email. My married life

1197
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: is amazing. Also, I have in my life the one

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01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: person in my life who knows who I am and

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: can always see the true me. She knows all of

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01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 1: my quirks, and I love that she knows these things.

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: We've been together for fourteen years. We've had our fights,

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01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: and we've almost separated, but we've learned and we are

1203
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: continuing to learn how to communicate better. We've worked hard

1204
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: for the things we have, just like anyone else does.

1205
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't have wealth in the denominal way, but I

1206
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 1: am very wealthy in the love I have with the

1207
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: people I hold closest to me. Now, enough of me

1208
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: patting myself on the back. I'm curious just to share

1209
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 1: a little bit of myself with you and the audience

1210
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: in the hopes that maybe I'm not totally alone in

1211
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: some aspects of life. Aliens, Maybe ancient history really cool

1212
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: and fun sometimes. Okay, I'm not sure where this is going,

1213
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep reading it. I recently got into Hima,

1214
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 1: the historical European Martial Arts. Been checking in on atlass

1215
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: here and there, but the government shut down and NASA

1216
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: went blind. These are just some of the things I

1217
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: try to enjoy and fill my head with so reality

1218
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: goes away. Moving on, I drive trucks for a living

1219
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: trash specif he wrote trash in all caps. It's a

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01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: fun work environment, and I enjoy driving all day. My

1221
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: two youngest are in school, and the oldest is living

1222
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 1: at home but working two jobs. My missus works for

1223
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: the state government. Sh He wrote, that's all I will

1224
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: say about that. Then he wrote parentheses. It kind of

1225
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: ramps up a little. Also, I have been adding salt

1226
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: and pepper to my previous statements. Sorry if it gets rambling.

1227
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: I really this is an audio. I'm not reading the email.

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01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: This is an audio experience. So I really like I

1229
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 1: can't show you this email, but I really wish I could,

1230
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: because it's this really feels like something to read, all right.

1231
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: It is a really funny thing. Trying to send this email.

1232
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: I'm finding it's taking a few days to do, so wow, okay,

1233
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: how many I'm curious how many days this has been written?

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 1: Over see currently, as of this paragraph, it's been four

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: days or longer to get this all finished. There we go,

1236
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: I remember to myself, Oh yeah, GEK and I come back.

1237
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: It's been chill for the most part, but at this

1238
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: moment I'm a little hurt physically lmal. I fucking tripped

1239
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: at work while on my personal time changing my car tires.

1240
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: Then I spent two to three hours nearly destroying my

1241
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: boss's equipment to change my tires, all because I didn't

1242
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: want to help using the all because I didn't want

1243
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: help using the mechanical, intuitive, useful tool that I thought

1244
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: I knew how to use. To top off the level

1245
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 1: of frustration I was feeling in that moment, my gorgeous

1246
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: wife texted and called, wondering why I'm not home, and

1247
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: of course I take it that she is upset that

1248
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: I am not done with the tires parentheses real quick.

1249
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: In between nearly breaking my boss's things and my wife calling,

1250
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: I had also tore the wall of my tire while

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: using the machine. Thank you in parentheses. Okay, I'm trying

1252
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: to follow this. I'm yelling at her because I think

1253
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: she's yelling at me, while she, on the other hand,

1254
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: is just trying to see if I'm hurt or dead

1255
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: or just mentally stable. I hang up, finish the tire

1256
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:22,520
Speaker 1: swap all caps so unconventionally finally drive home and apologize

1257
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: to my beautiful wife Parentheses, sorry if the simping is

1258
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: too much, and started this paragraph. It's our I think

1259
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: it's all right to sinp for your wife. I think

1260
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: that's okay, Republicus. Anyways, it's been chill just taking the

1261
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 1: time to finally finish this email. Weird how parentheses therapy

1262
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: can work when you have such a wise and humble

1263
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: gecko that simply listens, analyze, and tries to be concise

1264
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: with what he says. I appreciate that, Gigi's Republicus. Whow

1265
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: all right that we did it. I could see I

1266
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: could see myself for every day it took for you

1267
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: to write this email. It took me an extra two

1268
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: minutes to read it and comprehend it. But even though

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: I don't think I fully even though I don't think

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01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: I fully comprehended you, Republicus, just by judging by this email,

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: you're the kind of guy i'd be down to hang

1272
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: out with. I'm curious what your life is like. I mean,

1273
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I got a pretty good idea of

1274
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: what your life is like from this email, and I

1275
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: like it. I like the way you live. I'm happy

1276
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: that you exist. I really, I'm not even just bullshiting this.

1277
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 1: You know, you have three boys, you have a wife

1278
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: that you're nice too, that you've been together with since

1279
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: you were fucking twenty. You got jobs, your kids are

1280
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: in school, like you're a real human being on their

1281
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: planet Earth right now. I have a lot of respect

1282
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: for you. Republicus call in some time. I want to

1283
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: know what republicist means. And I also want to know

1284
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: what the hell you were using to fix your tires.

1285
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: Well that's gek mail. That was viewer mail. Once again,

1286
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: if you want to send me an email, you can

1287
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: do it at therapy geckomail at gmail dot com. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: guys very much for for not recording. I'm the one recording,

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Speaker 1: But thank you very much for listening to the thing

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Speaker 1: that I have recorded. I appreciate that very much. I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed listening to this episode. I hope that

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Speaker 1: this was fun for you guys to or informative or good.

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Speaker 1: I hope it was worth your time to listen to

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Speaker 1: this thing. I'm not wearing pants. I haven't been wearing

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Speaker 1: pants this whole time. I'm just in my underwear, so

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go put on pants and that's it. I

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Speaker 1: don't have anything else to say. Thank you, sincerely from

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Speaker 1: the bottom of my heart for listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you keep listening, and I hope you

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Speaker 1: tell your friends, and I hope that this show has

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Speaker 1: been helpful or anything at all to you in the

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Speaker 1: time that I've done it. And I feel honored to

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Speaker 1: be a geck on the computer. Thank you, guys. Bye bye.

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Speaker 3: Never goes on the line taking your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: Every night, every beacon goes on and ride. You're teaching

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Speaker 1: your cloud in the middle of your life that he's

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Speaker 1: not really an expert.