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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today's edition

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Speaker 2: is the Bachelor in Paradise episode to breakdown, Ben, what.

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Speaker 3: Was your initial what's your initial takeaway?

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Speaker 2: Honestly or just no, honestly because I always ask you

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Speaker 2: this question when I'm disappointed in an episode.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's having a hard time

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Speaker 4: living up to the Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a hard competition between the two, and

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Speaker 4: I think Paradise had to step up. It is gonna

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Speaker 4: have to step up its game. And I felt like

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Speaker 4: this episode, now episode one, was.

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Speaker 3: It episode one?

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Speaker 5: I liked Episode one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I felt like this episode, if you

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Speaker 4: really talk about it, didn't have a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: No, And I think about the things that happened, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we dragged that out. We dragged that over

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Speaker 2: two hours.

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Speaker 4: And it felt like it like it felt like when

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Speaker 4: I watched it, it felt like it was dragged out

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Speaker 4: for two hours. Now, this isn't me saying I'm giving

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Speaker 4: up on the show. This isn't me saying, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: I'll never watch. It's just me saying I thought this episode,

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Speaker 4: with all the storylines that were kind of built in

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Speaker 4: episode one, yeah, yeah, kind of like fizzled those storylines

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Speaker 4: out to be nothings. And that was that was hard

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Speaker 4: to watch because I just I don't know what I

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Speaker 4: picked from it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what I really was craving was somebody walking down

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Speaker 2: the stairs. I know even did at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the episode. But it's like, okay, so the even thing good.

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Speaker 2: But now like, let's just get to the rose ceremony

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Speaker 2: and get new people in because there's not again, there's

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Speaker 2: not a ton of drama that's going to be created

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Speaker 2: with the bunch right now because there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of people who are coupled up, but they're coupled up

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Speaker 2: in like relationships that you know, they apparently aren't one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent thrilled by, because when Hannah Brown comes down

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Speaker 2: and ask them some questions just we'll get to in

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Speaker 2: a minute.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them were like, oh, but I'm open,

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Speaker 3: but I'm open, but I'm open.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, so let's get these people open. As

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Speaker 2: a view as a viewer, I love it when people

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Speaker 2: walk down the stairs. As a participant, it was the

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Speaker 2: worst thing ever.

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Speaker 5: Not great.

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Speaker 4: Well, we are going to break it down right here.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with this. You know, Will so far has

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Speaker 4: had a shockingly large part in this show. I'd say, Will, Kylie,

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Speaker 4: and Olivia are are really the focus so far, and

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Speaker 4: it is an intriguing kind of love square at this point.

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Speaker 4: The square well, because you've got Kylie Avin, You've got

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Speaker 4: Olivia Avan, you got Kylie and Will's history, or you

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Speaker 4: got Kylie and Will's history, you got Olivian Will's history.

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Speaker 5: Like there's just a lot there.

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Speaker 2: They're very brief history, because brief history one day history.

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Speaker 3: But that's what happens in Paradise.

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Speaker 4: But you I mean, I think we said it last

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Speaker 4: week and I think we could probably predict it Will

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Speaker 4: was gonna get Will especially was going to get the

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Speaker 4: short end here, like he was definitely gonna be the

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Speaker 4: one left out. Now, you know, Olivia has a big personality.

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Speaker 4: She's beautiful, she's funny.

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Speaker 3: She's funny and scary.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, but she's she has kind of

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Speaker 4: gotten the raw of the deal twice now where she's

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Speaker 4: felt like something good is happening and then it doesn't,

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Speaker 4: and it just so happens to be that Kylie is

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Speaker 4: the one involved in both those scenarios. We figured though

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Speaker 4: Olivia would be around for a bit.

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 4: I just thought, you know, Will was gonna get left

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Speaker 4: out because I think Will was excited and shortsighted in

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Speaker 4: his decision to go on a date with Kylie. And

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Speaker 4: I think that gets proven during this episode where he

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Speaker 4: had a good thing going to Olivia. Olivia was into him.

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Speaker 4: Olivia was saying, Hey, this is awesome and this is magical,

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Speaker 4: and like we should give this a shot, and then

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Speaker 4: Kylie shows interest in him and he bounces, and it

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Speaker 4: felt like the beach. Most people on the beach had

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Speaker 4: kind of already known that Kylie was gonna be like

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Speaker 4: was waiting for Avan, like like there was nobody that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about Avan getting down. The stairs

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Speaker 2: comes down Kylie left off last episode. He only, from

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Speaker 2: what we see, pulls Olivia and Kylie aside a chat

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Speaker 3: Do you believe that it was only those two?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. You would know better me. I don't

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Speaker 5: know how that was.

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Speaker 2: I would know better, but I and I say yes,

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Speaker 2: I say he probably did. But for TV's sake, it's

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Speaker 2: best to just see them go head to head and

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Speaker 2: he asked Kylie to go. When Kylie gets asked to

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Speaker 2: go on the date pretty much with just like Will

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Speaker 2: just sitting there and she's like yes, like one percent,

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Speaker 2: Like the girl has left Will mentally one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: They go on the date. It seems cute.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see more of it because all we

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Speaker 2: see is like him not being able to pop the champagne,

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Speaker 2: which was kind of hilarious, and then they're just like

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Speaker 2: but there's like not a ton There wasn't a ton

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Speaker 4: We didn't leave that date, at least I didn't leave

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Speaker 4: that date being like, oh my gosh, their chemistry is

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Speaker 4: so power exactly.

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Speaker 5: There's a physical attraction.

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Speaker 4: I think that's obvious, and it's an easy flirt when

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Speaker 4: I think they've been flirting for a while even though

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Speaker 4: they haven't met in person necessarily ojis, through emojis, through emojis.

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Speaker 4: There was a weird part Ashley that stood out to

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Speaker 4: me where and I could just be reading in this stuff,

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Speaker 4: but she says that she, you know, visited San Diego

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Speaker 4: kind of like hinting at hey, like, I'm ready for

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Speaker 4: a move.

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Speaker 5: I'm up for anything.

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Speaker 3: Did she wanted she wants to move to him already?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like first date? Like, and he goes, when was that?

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, in the back of my mind, you

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Speaker 4: and I both know how this world works.

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Speaker 3: He totally knew what it was. He knew what it was,

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Speaker 3: and he's acting like he doesn't.

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Speaker 4: So what else are they acting like they don't know

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Speaker 4: about each other?

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Speaker 3: Do you think they've met in real life before?

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Speaker 5: Right now?

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Speaker 4: I have no basis for this, but like, as a fan, yes,

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Speaker 4: I think they have. I think they have, and I

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Speaker 4: think they've kept it semi secret.

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Speaker 2: And that's why she's gone, Yeah, that's why she's making

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Speaker 2: so many points to be like, oh, we've talked only

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Speaker 2: on Instagram, but it's like not even messages. It's just

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Speaker 2: like he's liking my pictures.

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Speaker 3: And fire signs.

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Speaker 4: I think they both had the same story coming down.

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Speaker 4: I think they both committed to this story. I think

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Speaker 4: they talked about what they would say about it, and

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Speaker 4: I think they have met.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know this again, good work.

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Speaker 3: Not yeah, but yeah, you're just coming up with speculative narratives.

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Speaker 5: And is it that big a deal if they have no,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't care at all, but it is still it

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Speaker 4: makes it does I will say this, it does because

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Speaker 4: I do know Olivia has been I think she has

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Speaker 4: fun being outspoken. I think she has fun kind of

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Speaker 4: being an instigator when it comes to Kylie. I think

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Speaker 4: she has kind of felt like, oh my gosh, you know, Kylie,

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Speaker 4: just continue to step on the people that I'm in to.

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Speaker 4: I will say if Kylie went on a date with

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Speaker 4: Will and she knew this all along, that she was

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Speaker 4: going to be into Avan and that he was coming

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Speaker 4: into this beach because they have talked, then I am

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Speaker 4: on Olivia's side saying why did you go on this

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Speaker 4: date with Will? Then like, why would you do this

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Speaker 4: if you knew how this was going to play out?

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Speaker 4: Because all I did is hurt one guy and step

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Speaker 4: in the middle of something that I was excited about.

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Speaker 3: Kylie had a date card.

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Speaker 2: They gave her the date card for a reason because

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Speaker 2: they knew that Evan was going to come down, but

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Speaker 2: she wasn't going to have the opportunity to use it

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Speaker 5: Him, so she kind of felt like, Hey, who's there?

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Speaker 3: They put her in a position.

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Speaker 5: They did put her in a position. Well, she fell

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Speaker 5: into that position too.

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Speaker 3: What is she to do? She's going to lead every

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Speaker 3: guy on, She's going to take on the date.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, I guess that is true. But there

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Speaker 4: were some guys that were not maybe in flirtatious relationships

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Speaker 4: at that point after that. Yeah, but you know, I

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Speaker 4: get it, I understand it. I see where this. I

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Speaker 4: see how she probably didn't have a great option. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure that's a really tough scenario to be in and

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Speaker 4: kind of playing the game a little bit. It would

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Speaker 4: have been hard for her to be like, Okay, what

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Speaker 4: probably not going to be interested in that's not going

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Speaker 4: to fall in love with me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Will seems to fall in love quite easily.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna talk about Will. I have a lot

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Speaker 5: of thoughts on Will.

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Speaker 3: He's a sweet guy.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, and just a bit.

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Speaker 4: But even and Kylie go on their date, it's you know,

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Speaker 4: she Kylie's talking about one babies and moving to San Diego.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is moving fast. This is furious. I

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Speaker 4: can't see how this ends anyway other than either the

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Speaker 4: two of them being together or the two of them

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Speaker 4: having the saddest breakup on the beach of all time,

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Speaker 4: because she is in it. And even as I mean

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Speaker 4: even during you know, Rach Rachel's season or yeah, Rachel's season,

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Speaker 4: he's not one that we got a lot of emotion

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Speaker 4: out of. He didn't share a lot, would incredibly look

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Speaker 4: good looking, So like, I'm not shocked that he's not

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Speaker 4: over there being like, yeah, Kayle, he's the one. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna make babies with her and have her moved to

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Speaker 4: San Diego. She's definitely the one to say that. But

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Speaker 4: we flashed back to the beach.

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Speaker 3: We got like a little update on everyone, you know.

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Speaker 5: We just do a little update, and and here's the relationships.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I kind of want to skim through this because

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Speaker 4: I don't feel like any of these relationships there's.

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Speaker 2: Nothing of substance much except for maybe Eliza and Aaron.

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Speaker 4: I would actually say Eliza and Aaron is one. Eliza

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Speaker 4: is just I mean, for two seasons of the row,

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Speaker 4: She's gonna go down as one of the most likable

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Speaker 6: She is very sweet, well she wasn't like she is sweet,

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Speaker 6: but like, I don't know about likable because we all

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Speaker 6: got pretty frustrated with her last season.

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Speaker 4: We did, but it's I mean, did we get frustrated

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Speaker 4: And I get it, right, I mean, I'm sure she's

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Speaker 2: It's so weird, Like it's weird, like like I said

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Speaker 2: Like warmer and sweeter this season, like a different, a

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Speaker 5: Her love on Blake right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kat and Brayden is an interesting relationship to me.

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Speaker 4: a lot of confusion, that it's one of those Bachelor

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Speaker 3: It's also because of social media.

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Speaker 2: She said something on social media and then he clapped

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean right now, it is. They're both very

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just I just want to talk to Braiden.

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Speaker 4: I've been a'll talk to Welles about this. Wells really

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Speaker 5: Thanks. He's a great dude.

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Speaker 4: You know they're making out in the pool when he

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to I just would love to have

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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Speaker 2: That would have been hilarious because you know, he was like,

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Speaker 2: what kind of irreverent earrings can I yet?

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Speaker 3: And he got a rubber ducky for the pool. It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: It is amazing.

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Speaker 4: There isn't relationalipship wise, that's intriguing. I think it all

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Speaker 4: which I think is the pivotal moment in this episode,

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Speaker 3: Talking about this.

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Speaker 2: This is so freaking strange, Like this was this was

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Speaker 2: so unnecessary. It's like fifteen minutes of unnecessary content. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm exaggerating with the time. It was probably like seven minutes.

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Speaker 2: But they have Hannah come down. They want the audience

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Speaker 2: But I'd say seventy five percent of the audience knows

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Speaker 2: for like two years. They live together. People who are

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Speaker 2: But they should have thrown them off when she was

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Speaker 4: And it it felt it felt unbelievable to me, not

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Speaker 5: It was not a believable moment at any level.

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Speaker 4: Now, the other side of this was they, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Hannah Brown is a big deal.

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Speaker 5: She is a big deal. She's a Dancing with the

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Speaker 4: She obviously was on the show with the Navy Seals

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Speaker 4: one point had a huge storyline there in a very

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Speaker 5: I have I have zero doubt that.

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Speaker 4: We put Hannah Brown out there with the most five

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Speaker 2: I would say that, I would say bachelor can test

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Speaker 4: I could go that far right, Yeah, but it gets

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Speaker 4: weird here where they're like they're worshiping Hannah, like they're

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Speaker 3: Freaking out over Hannah Brown. I get it.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's wild, and it's probably cool for that

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Speaker 4: Hannah's down the beach, but it feels weird to me

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Speaker 3: They just make her too much of a celebrity or.

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Speaker 4: Like, well they're I'm making it too much of a

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Speaker 4: they're person after person is like freaking out that Hannah

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Speaker 4: Brown is there, Like I mean, somebody says she's a

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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift to Bachelor Nation. She is, but like Rachel

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Speaker 4: in this world as Hannah Brown, she is a bachelorette.

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Speaker 3: It's different. Hannah really is the Taylor Swift of Bachelor Nation.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like if I were to have her on

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Speaker 2: because I do think of her as a celebrity. Okay,

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Speaker 2: well that's fair, Yeah, and I got there's like that

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Speaker 2: like there's something about Hannah Brown that like I want

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Speaker 2: the way she speaks and like commands herself that I

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Speaker 4: So you would you when you're watching this, you're understanding

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Speaker 4: Hannah Brown's on the beach, this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: I probably would, But I do feel like she's such

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Speaker 3: She's such like a girl. I'm not saying that she's like.

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Speaker 2: She's some you know that there's girl hot and there's

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Speaker 2: quality that like, we're kind of like, oh man, I

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Speaker 2: as far as like a threat romantically, they're probably overdoing

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Speaker 2: it because everybody, like the guys are going to be like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Well, Hannah comes to the beach, and

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Speaker 2: He have it lighthearted and laughed and smiled through the

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Speaker 4: She could have, but she didn't. And this is where

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you think that they did that? You think

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Speaker 2: Couples that said, like they're open just because they don't

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Speaker 4: I think it could be both. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: then like, I'm not interested in being here any longer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, perspective is here as big because.

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Speaker 3: From what I'm thinking, it is day two.

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Speaker 2: So on day two it is kind of crazy to say,

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Speaker 3: Am I missing a day?

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Speaker 5: Could be day three? I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: It could be day three, it is kind of It

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Speaker 3: But I also wouldn't I probably wouldn't say it just

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Speaker 5: A little cool, and I don't think there's anything bad

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you could pull back quotes that we've had

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's anything bad with staying open.

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Speaker 4: I think I was just semi surprised at how little

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I could pick one relationship where

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Speaker 2: Okay, No one I'm feeling this is gonna be the

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Speaker 4: two people that would come to the beats and be like,

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00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 4: you know what, let's just date, Let's see how this goes.

443
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 5: They both don't.

444
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Blake in the past maybe, but whoever,

445
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 4: this new two point zero Blake is seems like somebody

446
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 4: that just wants to come and give it his best

447
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 4: shot to find somebody or why would we come back?

448
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 5: You know? But you know there's sum up this bonfire.

449
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 4: There really isn't a ton of chaos or drama that

450
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 4: come out of it. More questions I think for each

451
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 4: couple on what relationships or you know, gonna you know,

452
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 4: where their relationships stand. The most surprising thing for me,

453
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 4: Ashley and I would love for you to talk to

454
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 4: this is that Rachel and Sean he'll somehow make it

455
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 4: out of this bonfire like together or in a relationship

456
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 4: or like cuddling. And even though she says like she's

457
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 4: interested in and maybe pursuing other people, that she's not

458
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 4: fully settled down, Sean understands that and he's happy that

459
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 4: she says that. I'm thinking in the back of my head,

460
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 4: Sean's laying next to Rachel being like, I have no

461
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 4: clue how I'm here right now with this girl, Like

462
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 4: I don't want her to go anywhere.

463
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 5: I am so in on this, but he's playing it cool.

464
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: I think this is probably the most play that we

465
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: have going on right now. Like Rachel is going is

466
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: just hoping that she finds somebody she likes more, because

467
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: I don't think that she likes Sean. I don't think

468
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 2: she likes him. I think she's hanging out next to him.

469
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: She's a he's a good rose. He's a good, safe

470
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: rose right now. And he's he's pretty nice, you know,

471
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 2: he's just pretty nice.

472
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I'm glad to hear you say the

473
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 4: things that you're saying. And I don't know he's but

474
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 4: I'm thinking that, you know, Sean Is is probably so

475
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 4: thrilled that he's got two days with Rachel. Like he's

476
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 4: just like, this is great. I'm living the dream right now,

477
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 4: and I don't know if this will last, but I

478
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 4: got two days with this girl.

479
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Before we move on from the campfire, I

480
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: do have to say I think the their intention behind

481
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: it was just to really get some people hostile, like

482
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: angry and nervous, but it didn't really work out that way.

483
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: I will say what it did was.

484
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: Probably bring some things to the surface that would have

485
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: eventually come up, but it just happened a little bit faster.

486
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: Because we don't see a.

487
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: Ton of drama going from the bonfire nights to the

488
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: roast ceremony night like, it didn't really not much came up.

489
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: I think the well, there was one fight. That was

490
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 2: the one fight about maturity. We'll get there in a second,

491
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: but before we leave the conversation about the bonfire, I

492
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: do want to bring up the Mercedes, Aaron b and

493
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: Eliza thing. So Aaron basically abandons Mercedes.

494
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: At this point.

495
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: They made out the night before, but he makes pretty

496
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: clear that he's not interested anymore. He's legit sitting next

497
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: to her and says that he's interested in Eliza to.

498
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: The whole What would that feel like?

499
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 5: Ashon? Awful? Awful.

500
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: He hasn't acknowledged her, and Mercedes even said that earlier

501
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: in the day. They're sitting around the pool they made

502
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: out the night before and he hasn't even like said hello.

503
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: That's so awkward and awful and like he's slow fading

504
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: her in Paradise.

505
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird because you're never going to get away

506
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 4: from that ghosting. You can't ghost anybody there ye feet

507
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 4: from you. You know, Mercedes brings up a big storyline,

508
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 4: and this can skip us then to the cocktail party,

509
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: because obviously there's a few storylines at the cocktail party.

510
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 5: That are worth touching on.

511
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 4: One is that most people have a rose that's secured

512
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 4: at this point, but there are some women who have

513
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 4: not met a guy, or not friended up with a guy,

514
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 4: or not in a relationship with somebody, and they're kind

515
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 4: of fighting over a last rose, which is really at

516
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: this point. Peter and Will's up until this point, But

517
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: then Will and I said at the beginning that we

518
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: were gonna sit on Will for a second. You know,

519
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: Will was somebody that we or I personally I can say,

520
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 4: criticized on his time on the Bachelorette.

521
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: I thought it was a little weird. I thought it

522
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 5: was a little wild.

523
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 4: Obviously, there was a lot of like chaos and drama

524
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 4: around Will, and at that time we didn't get a

525
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 4: good picture of Will. I will say this Will to me,

526
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 4: I don't know if I understand him yet, but I

527
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 4: can say that I'm intrigued by him, that I'm fascinating

528
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 4: in him, and that I really want this to work

529
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 4: out for him. Because Will is more emotional than I

530
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 4: ever would have imagined. You know, he comes to the beach,

531
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 4: he shared at this point, he shed many tears, and

532
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 4: you know, as these roses are kind of getting filtered through,

533
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: and Will feels like, Hey, everybody he's been into, even

534
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: if he's made a bad mistake, I think along the way,

535
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: everybody he's been into has left him. Mercedes sits down

536
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: with him, and I can see it right away when

537
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 4: they're on this bed. I don't think this is just

538
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 4: a hey, I need a rose? Will you willing to

539
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: give it to me? Kind of Sineia. There is some

540
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: chemistry there, there is some like joy and peace there,

541
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: and then he just breaks down. I mean, that dude

542
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: breaks down after a few days in paradise.

543
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: We thought in the teaser that that was going to

544
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: be relating to Kylie coming back with Avan, but he

545
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: was crying happy tears and says the most dramatic thing

546
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: I've ever heard.

547
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 3: It's always been Mercedes. I mean, it was never Kylie

548
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: or Olivia. It's always been Mercedes.

549
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: Three days coming literally quotes out of my own mouth

550
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: pretty much, though, So I cannot make fun of the dramatics.

551
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 4: I'm not making fun of him because I'm imagining this

552
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: is an emotion. This is an emotional rollercoaster. It is

553
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 4: insanely dramatic for a few days in after this is

554
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 4: his third or me.

555
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: I think he's me.

556
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 4: Like, it's always been Mercedes, and you know what, for

557
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 4: Will's sake, I sure hope it is.

558
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 5: Mercedes sake.

559
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: It is Mercedes is kind of gotten the wrong to

560
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: the deal a little bit Will has.

561
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 5: I mean, he's had a huge three days in Paradise.

562
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 5: The poor boy has to be so tired.

563
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: They're really sweet together. I really like them. I'm rooting

564
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: for them.

565
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: They look good together, hopefully, like let's let's just let

566
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: him like have a good week, you know, let them just.

567
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: Let him break, like just take a rest and enjoy

568
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: like a nice drink on a bed with this new

569
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: love of his life.

570
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: He does is seriously.

571
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: So sweet that he's there for the right reasons.

572
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: He's definitely there for there's no arguing that.

573
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 5: The only thing I would say that, And you have

574
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 5: to kind of.

575
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: Calm me down here, explain it to me, because I

576
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: don't get it. You know, it's kind of funny coming

577
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: from my mouth, I guess. But he is throwing love

578
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: around very early.

579
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: He said he was falling for Kylie after the date.

580
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, can't do that. Even I didn't say falling

581
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: in love that easily.

582
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 5: I mean maybe he's just a romantic.

583
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember my first date with Jess and thinking,

584
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, this is like a feeling that I

585
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: I've never really like fell after this quick a period

586
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: of time, and I'm sure she would have been like, hey,

587
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: I'm not interested in you have to our first day.

588
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: I would have probably been sad and cried and been like,

589
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: you know, why me?

590
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 5: But will is will is very.

591
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 4: Much looking for love here on the beach again. He's

592
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: very interesting than in finding it, and I hope it's

593
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: with Mercedes because I think it is a cute couple,

594
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: and I hope for weeks now we're talking about them.

595
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: The only other.

596
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: Big thing here, Ashley, in the cocktail party is the

597
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 4: Peter and Aaron s scenarios so ridiculous. It is ridiculous

598
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: at all levels. An argument on maturity. You know, Peter,

599
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: I think is thirty four years older. Aaron necessary. You

600
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: know they're my age, they're your age. You know they're

601
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: they're fighting over maturity. I don't have a lot to say, Ashley,

602
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: other than the like, this is unreal, Like why what

603
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: are you doing? What are you trying to accomplish? Why

604
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: you said you could come up with a thousand other

605
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: better reasons to bring somebody down, if that's what you're

606
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: interested in doing, then arguing about who's more mature who's not.

607
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 5: I know.

608
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: So they're fighting over Sam, who has had like no

609
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: air of time. Basically, this entire triangle of people have

610
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: had very little airtime. And all of a sudden, it's like, well,

611
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: Peter is interested in Sam, or at least wants to

612
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: get to talk to her, because he hasn't really because

613
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: she and Aaron have clicked up. Clicked up that's a

614
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: new expression. They've they've clicked off.

615
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 5: The new thing.

616
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: They're not they're not hooking up. They they've clicked up.

617
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: And apparently she comes across very mature, and Peter Pilot

618
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: Pete two point zero feels like he should be with

619
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: somebody who is very mature because he considers himself this

620
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: and this is basically exactly what he says, you're very mature.

621
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: I'm very mature. You should be so immature.

622
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: So he indirectly maybe doesn't say that Aaron as mature,

623
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: like what does this even mean?

624
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: It's and then the two guys go and have like

625
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: a debate.

626
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 5: Mature.

627
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: It's just like it's just stupid, I mean, and I

628
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: won't go into it because people get it really mad

629
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: when I do. You're not allowed to call yourself mature,

630
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: Like that's just not a thing we're allowed to do.

631
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ben, you haven't brought it up enough.

632
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: You're just not Like it's not something that I can't

633
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 4: I can't say to you. Actually, you know, in my life,

634
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: I'm just very mature. You can't say that to yourself.

635
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: You have to allow other people to say it about

636
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 4: you or I don't know, Like at thirty four years old,

637
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 4: like nobody's shocked and saying coming up to me and

638
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: being like, Ben, you're just so mature, Like I haven't

639
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 4: heard that since I was like twenty one years old.

640
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 4: Like I used to hear things people would say like, hey, Ben,

641
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: you're an old soul. You like to do things that

642
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: old people do, And I'd be like, what does that mean?

643
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: Like you know, I've made sense of that, But at

644
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: thirty four years old, it's either a given or it's not.

645
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: And you're not allowed to say about yourself, like it

646
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: doesn't get you one up on anybody else.

647
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: It's the you can't self describe. And there's some you

648
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: can't describe more than others, and this is one of them.

649
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: And Ben and I are probably the worst people ever

650
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: at coming up with a resume because, like you and

651
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: I hate that part at the top, we we're supposed

652
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: to describe yourself and all your positive attributes a gross

653
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: I hate it.

654
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 5: My biggest issue is that I have I'm too caring.

655
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm too nice.

656
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: You said that, didn't somebody say that recently? They're too caring?

657
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: Probably happens every season on The Bachelor. I think somebody

658
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: says that their biggest issue is they just they have

659
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: such a big heart.

660
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: I don't know. That's ridiculous. I have so many issues

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Speaker 5: that I could very much talk about, you know.

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Speaker 4: So this is a weird scenario between the two of them.

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00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: It's funny too. To me. There's some comic comedic relief

664
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Speaker 4: where they're arguing about maturity and Peter is dancing behind them,

665
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: and yet Aaroness is like upset with it because in

666
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: my world of what I think of when somebody's mature.

667
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Speaker 3: Is they don't crawl up behind somebody's conversation.

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00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: One, they don't crawl behind somebody's conversation, and they don't

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Speaker 4: dance behind this conversation. The second piece of that is

670
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Speaker 4: that you don't get upset if somebody does. You're just like, hey,

671
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: he's making a fool of himself. He's just being wild

672
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: and weird right now. Like, let him be dancing.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see him dancing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he was dancing.

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00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: He was a little bit.

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00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was dancing there. He was like break dancing.

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Speaker 4: They said, So, you know, if you if I think

678
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: of somebody I look up to because of their intellect,

679
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: intellect or their their I guess, maturity or their ability

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Speaker 4: to keep calm in chaotic situations, which I think is

681
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: a sign of maturity and a size of a sign

682
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Speaker 4: of what you've been through. One you're not dancing on

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Speaker 4: the conversation and two you're not getting upset upset if

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Speaker 4: somebody does. And so like I think the two of

685
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: them are arguing about maybe their biggest insecurity.

686
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Speaker 2: It's a total tongue in cheek paradise moment. Like the

687
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: producers are cracking up.

688
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, this is the best, This is gonna

689
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: be great television. Well, it leads us to the Rose ceremony.

690
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: Eight guys, eleven girls, three girls are going home. Uh,

691
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: here's the breakdown. Brayden chooses Cat, not shocking. Blake chooses Jess,

692
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: not shocking. Aaron be chooses Eliza after their bonfire and

693
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: being very clear about what he was into. Will in

694
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: his new relationship with Mercedes. Sean chooses Rachel good for him,

695
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: good for her. There On the next week, Even chooses Kylie,

696
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: Aaron s chooses Sam, Peter chooses Olivia. That was kind

697
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: of the shocking moment of the Rose Sammonie.

698
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Speaker 3: Who was the only one for real grabs.

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00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Brooklyn, Greer and Cat go home. Brooklyn and

700
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: Cat not necessarily surprised by because it sounded like the

701
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: two of them just wanted to be on the beach

702
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: the whole time, and you know, for as much as

703
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: their storylines could have been shown when it comes to there,

704
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Speaker 4: I think it was Brooklyn's issues with the other cat.

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Speaker 5: Cat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Greer is a surprise going home for me. I'm

707
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Speaker 4: surprised the show did not find somebody to bring down

708
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 4: to the beach to keep her around, because.

709
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: I wanted them to because of the way that her

710
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: relationship ended with Zach over the over like a FaceTime

711
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: when he had COVID and I just liked her and

712
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: I wanted to get her know her more. I thought

713
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: Paradise would be a great place for that. But no,

714
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: she's gone. And I thought that Brooklyn. I thought they

715
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Speaker 2: were going to utilize more drama between her and Cat

716
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: and she's just spicy, you know. Like I said last week,

717
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: she scares me a little bit, and like that's kind

718
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: of a good personality you have around for a bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm shocked, but you know, also not surprising. The

720
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Speaker 4: three of them are the ones going home. In the

721
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Speaker 4: sneak peak for next week, Tyler Norris shows back up

722
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Speaker 4: to the beach hot commodity last time in Paradise, kind

723
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: of a hot commodity in general, feels like somebody. He

724
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: reminds me of a Dylan Barber in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why, but he does kind of. I

726
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 4: feel like he's gonna come to the beach and actually

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Speaker 4: find somebody, at least I hope he does.

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Speaker 5: People.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think he's got an ego

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Speaker 3: on him.

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Speaker 5: Now whoops, Okay, let's see if that plays out. I

732
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 5: think that's a hot take. Let's see if plays out.

733
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: Tanner shows up to the beach obviously, Tanner has been

734
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: talked about by Kat. She's interested in Tanner. He's a

735
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: attractive man who is going to come to the beach

736
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Speaker 4: and definitely shake things up.

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00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And we see it a little sneak preview where Braiden

739
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 4: feels played. As we said earlier, for some reason, I

740
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 4: just feel like that relationship is not between Braiden and

741
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 4: Kat is not gonna end well. And the final one

742
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: is the second time that we've seen this poop baby

743
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Speaker 4: being discussed. I don't think we need to talk about

744
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: it here. I think it's gonna become way overplayed. I'm

745
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 4: just now worried about her.

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00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned, you know why, because Ben, we

747
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: just we talked about it quite a bit last week,

748
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Speaker 2: and you were saying that you were happy that we

749
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: were bringing up this conversation because it's it can be

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Speaker 2: a problem, especially when visiting tropical locales.

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Speaker 3: I guess like overplays.

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned that we have no drama and that we

753
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: will be just waiting for the poop baby and that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be our biggest drama.

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's where I'm making you have to use

756
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 3: it in every single teaser.

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Speaker 5: It's not dramatic to me, it's not.

758
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: It's more like sad and like, I feel bad, but

759
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: I if I'm gonna have an two hour long episode

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00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: and even thirty minutes of it is spent there like

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00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: highlighting that she hasn't pooped. One, I feel bad for

762
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 4: her because that's how she's gonna be remembered.

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00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Two, I feel bad for her because her time in

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Speaker 4: Paradise has not felt well. Three like just give us

766
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 4: the like like the short end, like, hey, she did

767
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 4: or she didn't, and we should all like rally around Sam,

768
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: Like Sam, I'm sorry, this sucks, but I just if

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Speaker 4: I'm worried that it's going to become a thirty minute process.

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Speaker 4: Or the doctor comes in and talks to her, she

771
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: tells everybody about it. Everybody's talking about it. It's like,

772
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Speaker 4: does it really need to be this like it's it's not.

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Speaker 4: I think when you get older, these conversations get less embarrassing,

774
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: or at least maybe they hopefully they should. But it

775
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: would still be embarrassing for me personally to be on

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00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: the beach and to have all these love interests, you know,

777
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: and all these friends new friends talking about, hey, have

778
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: I had a bowel? Movement or not today, Like, it's

779
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 4: just not it would not be a fun experience for me.

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00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: I would feel just like, yeah, this sucks. So I

781
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 4: feel bad for Sam that now two weeks in a row,

782
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 4: she's known as the girl that has the poop baby,

783
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: I know, and what happens if it comes out like

784
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: what happens if it works and then everybody's celebrating the

785
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: fact that she just took a massive dump.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna leave that all right.

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Speaker 4: Well, hey, well, we have more episodes coming your way

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Speaker 4: on the Almost Famous Podcast. We have some exciting interviews

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Speaker 4: popping up. Katie Thurston is going to be joining us

790
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Speaker 4: talking about some of her newest endeavors. We'll be back

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00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 4: breaking down the Golden Bachelor with a very very special guest.

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Speaker 4: Last week we had an aunt from one of our

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Speaker 4: producers on the show. We're going to have a grandma

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00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 4: this week from one of our producers in the show

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Speaker 4: breaking down the Golden Bachelor with us.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be a blast.

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Speaker 4: We're having a lot of fun over here, some good

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Speaker 4: television on keeping us busy and obviously keeping all of

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Speaker 4: you busy as well.

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Speaker 5: So until next time, I've.

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Speaker 3: Been ben I've been Ashley, See you guys.

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