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Speaker 1: We are visiting the atl today and it sure does

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Speaker 1: not disappoint. Nini goes to dinner with Charay and Kim,

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Speaker 1: and of course it doesn't end well. Let's just say

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Speaker 1: Schariy goes after Kim's wig. Stand up comedian tig Nataro

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Speaker 1: joins the podcast for her first episode ever of The

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives. This is The Real Housewives of Atlanta, Season two,

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Speaker 1: Episode three, Unbelievable, which I've changed to unbewiggable. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, How are you? I'm good. Um,

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Speaker 1: nice to meet you. Thank you for doing this and

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Of course, have you ever watched

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Speaker 1: The Housewives? The first time was when I was sent

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Speaker 1: the link of any show. Yeah, okay, just in general

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Speaker 1: across the board. I don't even watch much TV or film,

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Speaker 1: down and like, watch something. Well. I love that when

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Speaker 1: there are certain people that you're just picturing them in

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Speaker 1: watched an episode of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City,

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Speaker 1: which was an experiment that you can't even imagine. I've

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Speaker 1: people from another planet was It was really crazy, so

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Speaker 1: I felt. But I had Jerry Springer on here, which

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Speaker 1: and when him telling me about his wife walking through

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Speaker 1: the room and saying, what do you what do you?

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Speaker 1: What are you watching? Like? What are you doing? Like?

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Speaker 1: Have you taken up any new hobbies? It was so

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Speaker 1: I find it funny when people who haven't like what

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Speaker 1: the housewives overall? Like what is your what do you

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Speaker 1: think about it? When you just hear like housewives from

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Speaker 1: I guess I think that people are fighting. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's my um, that's my thought. Um. And and then

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Speaker 1: I told my wife that I was doing this and

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Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, well, you know who Bethany

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Speaker 1: is is she started the um the skinny girl margharita

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Speaker 1: that from. Oh my god, you I I invented. So

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Speaker 1: I did invent something and you drink it. How funny

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Speaker 1: Margharita's but I was always like, go, it's too sour

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Speaker 1: And that's cool from like a business perspective, but that

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Speaker 1: skinny Margharita And I literally am like I invented that

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Speaker 1: It's like an iconic scene in this genre that that

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Speaker 1: And then I went back because I still was going.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, I was still was going back

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Speaker 1: to what I thought that it was earlier, and I

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Speaker 1: but it's it's a thing. Yeah, it's entertaining, it's entertaining,

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00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: but it is real people. A lot of dynamics though

428
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: about people like we're talking about that come through. And

429
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: that's why like this show, because you end up talking

430
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: about female dynamics or why does somebody feel the need

431
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: to brag? Or why would you go on TV when

432
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: you have something to hide? And skeletons and a thousand

433
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: different things. So there are interesting topics that come from Yeah, yeah,

434
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: I guess if I had if I had more of

435
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: that information, now that you're saying that about skeletons, in

436
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: the closet and bragging even find out that you're saying

437
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: some people are completely broke. And I was assuming watching

438
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: this that the show is about multi millionaire, multi million,

439
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: that everybody is just swimming in cash everybody now and

440
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: when I was on, like they would never cast me

441
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: now in a studio apartment, but everybody now needs to

442
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: seem like they're wealthy or aspirational. But there will be

443
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: nothing better producer will like more than finding out that

444
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: that's not true but they look like they are. There's

445
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: nothing better than you know, and this is where it's crazy.

446
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: A person who is not drinking falling off the wagon

447
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: like it's That's why it's weird to be a producer

448
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: on these types of shows too, because you have to

449
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: ride the line between when do you like cross over

450
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: to the I factor? When is it like, stop the cameras.

451
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: This is fucking crazy, and usually they don't stop the

452
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: cameras no matter how crazy it is. I was. I

453
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: was on a trip with one scene where they did

454
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: actually stop the cameras because someone look like they were

455
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: having a breakdown. You know, stuff like that happens. I

456
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: know you don't know me, but just right off the bat,

457
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: How do you think I would do as a cast

458
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: member on a house Well, if you acted like if

459
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 1: you signed up for it and then said things like

460
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: I can't imagine ever getting into a fight like that,

461
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: you would survive the first season, but then the shiny

462
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: car smell would be off and like you have to

463
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: in other words, there was one person who do one

464
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: a couple of dates of someone really famous and this

465
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: person I had like a title and they kind of

466
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: acted like they were always above it, but they were there. Yeah,

467
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: So like if you're there, you're a mud wrestler, some

468
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: version of a mud wrestler. Yeah, you know, so if

469
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: you said that wouldn't fly with the breast touching, So

470
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to know how that wouldn't fly. Like you're

471
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: using your inside voice, whatever that is. That's what you're

472
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: using in that experience. So you're you're joining you need

473
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: to use your outside voice for whatever that means. That's interesting, Yeah,

474
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't I don't say to somebody

475
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: a drop off and pick up, like why did you

476
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: choose that shirt today? But if they were on the

477
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: Housewives and so was I, I would say, what was

478
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: the what was the motivation? Which behind that wardrobe choice?

479
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? I do? And I

480
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: feel like if I was on that show, I would

481
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: get that question every day. What was the what were

482
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: you thinking? Why are you? Why are you wearing the

483
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: same outfit every day on this show? Yeah, that wouldn't

484
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: work well at all. It might it's actually a new character,

485
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: but that that wouldn't work work. That might not work well.

486
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: That would be on the Lesbian Housewives. Or you could

487
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: be the token lesbians. Ask your partner, ye, go in

488
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: front a cocktail, get really rich about it? Now somebody

489
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: somebody approached her about um doing something with Yeah, you'd

490
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: be good as the partner that people like because you

491
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: come in and you roll her rise and you say

492
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: a few things and you don't have to get really dirty,

493
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: and then they like you. You know that that becomes

494
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: a favorite. Less is more. You could be that she

495
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: could be the one who gets in the fucking mud.

496
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: She wouldn't Okay, well, well forgot that. Yeah, we'd we'd

497
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: be a terrible match for it. Okay, all right, well

498
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: we won't put that in the list for that. All right.

499
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: So Nini is talking to Lisa. She's the one she

500
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: goes power walking with Now, Lisa was a housewife that

501
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: I believe was let go, and I'm actually watching her

502
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: and thinking she was let go and Sherey, the one

503
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: who got out to pull the hair, was let go

504
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: at some point in this process. And I'm actually thinking, say,

505
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: I never understood why she got let go because I

506
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: loved her because she is a tough broad and she's

507
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: entertaining to me in that. But Lisa's like a little

508
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: spitfire and she was also let go, and she's better

509
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: than a lot of new housewives now. So I was

510
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: thinking about why they were let go as housewives, like

511
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: they were a little too fast and loose about letting

512
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: people go back then because people way worse will last

513
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: way longer now and I would have to ask Andy

514
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: about that and how long is way longer? Like how

515
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: what's a long run for these There's a woman who

516
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: just left the show, and it's a gray area whether

517
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: she left or got fire, but we believe that it's

518
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: a that she doesn't matter what. We believe she left

519
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: the show and we don't believe it she wanted to.

520
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: So her name is Lisa Rinna and she was on

521
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: probably like twelve years there's one who's been on since

522
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: for fourteen years, since the beginning. That's like the Susan

523
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: Lucci of housewives. Like that's a wrong, Like you've made

524
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: a decision, Like you've made a life choice to be

525
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: on the house a career. Oh my gosh. Right, the

526
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: average life span of a housewife, I would say the

527
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: average life span of a housewives three years, two to

528
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: three years. And I've always maintained if you get fired

529
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: from the only job you have to do is be

530
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: an entertaining shit show. That's all you have to do

531
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: every day. Doesn't matter what you like, you just have

532
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: to be an entertaining shit show. And if you can't

533
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: do that, that's pretty pretty grim. That's pretty fucking Graham.

534
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: So so Lisa, I believe it was let go. And

535
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: she's like a little spitfire and and it's like ready

536
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: to throw down, which I thought was interesting. She and

537
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Nani are talking about, say who's moving into her house.

538
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: Shari was married to a professional football player who had

539
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: a contract, and she said she wanted a seven figure settlement.

540
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: She wanted a seven figure settlement. She was really firm

541
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: about that. And Susie Orman was on my podcast saying

542
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: like why would that be her goal? A seven figure

543
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: like that's her whole goal? Like why wouldn't it be

544
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: that she's actually going to get the money. Like the

545
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: way that she said it, it was like Say said

546
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: it like it was a status symbol versus like Susie

547
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: Orman talking about that she's actually going to get something

548
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: that she'll that she wants, something that she can actually attain,

549
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: because just getting a settlement doesn't mean you're actually going

550
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: to get it, and like that, it just seemed like

551
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: a status symbol. It is interesting the way she talked

552
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: about financial planning in The Housewives, which is an oxymoring moron.

553
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: So now say is moving into this new place. She

554
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: has to get out of her other one because they

555
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: weren't paying, and now she's in a new place on

556
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: her own, and the girls come over and that's why

557
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: Ninie and Lisa are gossiping beforehand about Charay and about

558
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: the divorce. And they roll in. So Chari has a

559
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: friend with the short hair, And I thought this was

560
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: really interesting too, because you look at things differently. Now

561
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Ninie walks up to the girl and says, you need

562
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: to eat a sandwich. This thin girl that's friends of Sharai.

563
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Ye? So the girl says, soon,

564
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: I'll just I eat. Believe me, I eat soon, I'll

565
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: be your size. So the pendulum swings. Ninie's offended. This

566
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: other girl becomes a villain. And the girl was a

567
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: little extra, but this girl becomes a villain. And I'm thinking,

568
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: why is it okay to say to somebody you need

569
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: to eat a sandwich, which indicates you're painfully thin, you're anorexic,

570
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: whatever that means, Like that means something not positive, and

571
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: why was that okay? And the moment that the show too,

572
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: the really the pendulum swings to the Nanie comment about

573
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: her being overweight, and it's like it's sort of like

574
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: the weave pull versus the tick grab. I think they're

575
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: equally as offensive. And I think Nanie came out of

576
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: the gate. I agree. I asked somebody that has had

577
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: health issues. I've I've had people make comments when I

578
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: was like, definitely ill similar eat a sandwich, and I'm like, well,

579
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: whether it whether? I mean, it was all at the

580
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: same time. I had a basic cancer, I had an

581
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: intestinal disease. I had a lot going on, and people

582
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: would write online that I needed to eat a sandwich.

583
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like that's that that thing that

584
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: people love to say. I have to put that in

585
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: your act because it's so stupid. I've tweeted back and okay,

586
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: I just ate a sandwich. Now, what are we gonna do? Exactly?

587
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Should we all get on the scale? Tokay, what do

588
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: we do next? I just ate a sandwich? Now, Now

589
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: what happens? I'm waiting for the movie to end, Like,

590
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? All set had sandwich? Yeah, yeah,

591
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: it's it's equally as offensive. And you and you can't

592
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, you can't track everyone down online and be like,

593
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm ill. I'm definitely ill. And I and

594
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: you don't you don't know, you don't know what's going

595
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: on with people, and you don't know. Maybe they're eating

596
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: a lot of sandwiches and they're they're um like whatever

597
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: their thing is. Like it's just like but it wasn't

598
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: balanced in that. Okay, she said that, you made a

599
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: little quip. Okay, I'm a lot like the girl came

600
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: back and said, and she didn't say you're a pig,

601
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: you're you're fat. She said, I'll keep eating and then

602
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: soon I'll be your size. Like I think it was

603
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: like mano amano like eye for an eye tooth version.

604
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: I didn't think either was more offensive. No, no, you

605
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: were you were great interesting And then I do and

606
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: I but I, you know, it comes from a personal

607
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: place of having that said to me previously, where I'm

608
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: just like that, it's it's it can be and the

609
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: burden is on you because I have this autoimmune issue

610
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: and I was in Aspen recently and I was very

611
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: severely dehydrated and I cannot absorb. I couldn't absorb hydration whatsoever.

612
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: And I you would think I would like lose weight.

613
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: I gained like ten pounds in a week and it

614
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: went up to it got up to like eight pounds

615
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: in a week because something I think my body was

616
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: an emergency trying to hold onto any liquid or something

617
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: was going something was going on, and people were like,

618
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: what the fuck happened in your friend? Like you know,

619
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: and then the burden is on you to now explain

620
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: your most personal medical journey with people, because some patrol

621
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: and that. But that's something about the sign of the times.

622
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: It's another one of these things like it's okay to

623
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: pull the hair it's not okay, but it's it's okay

624
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: to grab the boob, not okay to pull the hair.

625
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: And it's okay to get upset if someone calls you overweight,

626
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: but it's not okay if someone calls you underweight. Like

627
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: these these constructs that happen in society that like back

628
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: then that was okay. Yeah, I still feel like it's

629
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: okay for people to make that comment if you're um,

630
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: if they think you're too thin. But still it's still

631
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: not something that's that's off limits. I agree. Oh and

632
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: then the girl says to I wonder why that girl

633
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: wasn't cast as a house by that. I wonder I

634
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: was always wondering like that girl because she then said

635
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: to the other to Lisa, you gotta do something with

636
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: that with your hair. M hmm, like she said, like

637
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: she said, like you have to do something with that,

638
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: Like she was like talking about something about if you

639
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: you can just get in a pool and wash the way.

640
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, this show is you know, who's a better

641
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: who's better at at insults? In a way? Yeah, and

642
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: a lot of them are good, Like who can land

643
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: an insult? You know who can land it? And you know,

644
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Let me ask you this because you

645
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: know that line from the Woody Allen movie if it bends.

646
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: If it bends, it's funny. If it breaks, it's not.

647
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: And so my I have an X that used to

648
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: always say, humor winds. Humor is its own excuse. So

649
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: you get to get away with a lot more on

650
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: these shows. If it's funny, if it lands, yeah, I

651
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: mean it's across the board, and it is true it

652
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: a lot of times with you know, there's a lot

653
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: of topics that come up in the comedy world where

654
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: people will say, oh, you can't talk about this, you

655
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: can't joke about this, and and I get asked that

656
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: in interviews. Is there a line that people shouldn't and

657
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: can't cross in comedy and joking around? In my feeling

658
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: is it has a lot to do with intention. I

659
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: think most things have a lot to do with intention.

660
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: And um, one of my albums that actually ended up

661
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: being the number one selling album comedy album in the

662
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: world in twoy Thirteenot, what that's a big that's a

663
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: big statement. Yeah, well and it's true it was the

664
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: number one. Well it's a lie, but it's cool. Yeah,

665
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: that's amazing. It's true, but it's it was you know,

666
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: an album where I talked about having cancer, and I

667
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: always use that as an example of people always say

668
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: there are some things that are not funny and one

669
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: of them is cancer, and then I say, well, my

670
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: album was the number one selling album that year and um,

671
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: And I think that it goes back to what my

672
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: point was is it's intention, and I wasn't on stage

673
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: saying ha ha cancer is funny and I'm laughing at

674
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: people that have cancer that are struggling or in pain.

675
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: It's it's how it goes back to. It's all in

676
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: the delivery. It's what your intention is. It's it's um

677
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: usually an angle that you're not thinking about that's going

678
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: to be the funny way of presenting a topic. And

679
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: people when they think cancer isn't funny, or death isn't funny,

680
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: or any anything anything that's triggering is not funny, Well,

681
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: the way you are thinking that somebody is going to

682
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: deliver that is going to be the least funny offensive way.

683
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: If there's a way into a topic that's interesting, surprising

684
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: the right once, yeah, with the right intention, then I

685
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: do think you can surprise people with how you make

686
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: a joke about a topic. Did you think that anybody

687
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: on the show or anything about it was funny? Um,

688
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not my sensibility. It was the only

689
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of laughing I think that I had was um stunned.

690
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was watching it, going what

691
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: is happening? I did? I you know, So it wasn't like, oh,

692
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: she really got her with that, and that's so funny,

693
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: and I know that's a lot of how people watch

694
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: the show and are amused and are laughing about it.

695
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: It's just not my sensibility, right, Did you think think

696
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: it was like a take like women taking women down?

697
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Because by the way, it's gotten so much crazier now

698
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: it's another level what it is now it's steroids now,

699
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: I can't I can imagine. But no, great, no, because

700
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: now it's people that are incarcerated and people who are

701
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: being you know, their kids are being bullied online and

702
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: blaming other housewives for being responsible. Awesome, All right, Well

703
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: you were amazing. I loved meeting you and for you

704
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: to be so just open and honest and like do

705
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: this what was probably like, why am I doing this

706
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: ridiculous show? So I appreciate that too, No, I was.

707
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: I was very interested. I'm always um, there's so many

708
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: typical scenarios and podcasts and people that I can find

709
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: myself face to face with. And when this came through,

710
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: I was like, well, why on earth would they want

711
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: me on here? And then my wife was like, you

712
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: gotta do it. That that is going to be so

713
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: fun and and not that Stephanie she doesn't follow it,

714
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: but she's more familiar with Yeah, and her sister follows it.

715
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, I gotta do it. Um,

716
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: so glad you did it. I'm very glad I did it.

717
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: And it's um, it gives me more understanding and perspective

718
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: about the show. Um. And so like the genre of

719
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: what people are doing. Yeah, because I have friends um

720
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: that I think have podcasts and talk about these shows

721
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm like, right, I don't even understand

722
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: what he now and now you can talk now. You

723
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: now when you get a drink, you can think of me,

724
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: and now when you talk to them, you can think

725
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: of me, So you'll be thinking about me a lot. Yeah,

726
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: it is good for people to understand that. When someone's like,

727
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: why the hell would you do that? And it's like

728
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: is it is it money? Is it this reason? Thank

729
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: you for having my hope. I wasn't a letdown, if

730
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: and if anybody, if anybody's interested. I have a couple

731
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: of podcasts. What are they? I have an advice podcast

732
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: US called Don't Ask Tig, where I have a different

733
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: celebrity every week. You'll have to come join me, okay,

734
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: and we give advice to people. Okay. And then I

735
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: have another one called Tig and Cheryl True Story and

736
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: it's me and Cheryl Hines from Curb Your Enthusia. It

737
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: is Oh, she was just on here. She would just

738
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: on just being my other podcast, Cheryl Hines was just on.

739
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: I liked our a lot. Cool. Hello, well fabulous. Well

740
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: I want to come see you performed sometimes. I I'd

741
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: love stand up my whole life. Oh please do. I'm

742
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: often well, I'm always on tour. So um. I have

743
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: a website but in La I love literally since since

744
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I was a kid and liked way too young to

745
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: be watching stand up but also used to go watch

746
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: Alan Havevey and John Stewart at the comedy Cellar downstairs

747
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: before like you know, and I happen to know a

748
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: lot of comedians like I just happened to I did

749
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: stand up for five minutes one night at New York,

750
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: New York Comedy Club, and I know one was allowed

751
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: to have phones, and it was literally the first night

752
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: that they opened. And little did I consider that people

753
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: would have to be six feet apart and wearing masks

754
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: in a comedy club. So that was the first time

755
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: I ever did it, which isn't like that's not that

756
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: much of a good starting the pandemic you started. I

757
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: did it one time for five minutes. I just said

758
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: to myself, I wanted to try something I had always

759
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: wanted to try, and I called and I got I

760
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: called everyone from Ellen to Chris Rock to Kathy Griffin,

761
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: like I just got a piece of advice from everyone

762
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: that was like my sort of approach, and Kevin Nealen

763
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: and learned a lot along the way. Had just wrote

764
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of things down that I've liked and thought

765
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: was funny. And just like Chris Rock saying the beginning

766
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: and the end is important, the middle is just a flow,

767
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: and that it's a very intimate thing. Don't bring it entourage,

768
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: and then someone else saying bring it entourage, Kathy Griffin

769
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: thinking bring a lot of people for the energy, and

770
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: then Kathy or someone saying take the mic stand and

771
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: put it away from you immediately, and then bridget ever

772
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: being like you need the mic stand, it's a prop

773
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: like hearing all this stuff and then having to decide

774
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: for myself. But the one thing that I think it

775
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: was Kevin Neilon that gave the instruction and then Kim

776
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: Whitley that gave me the answer. But Kevin Neilan was like,

777
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: let me realize that people have different styles and not

778
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: meaning like Stephen Wright or something so overt, but meaning

779
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: like Kevin said, I tell a whole story, like it's

780
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: kind of like a storytelling where other people are like

781
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: individual back to back jokes. Yeah, and I realized that

782
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: my quote unquote style was ranting like things that aggravate me.

783
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: Kim Whitley was like, like the things that aggravate you.

784
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: That was like my style. And so I did five

785
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: minutes and even with the masks on and people being

786
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: a part, people laughed like I didn't feel naked up

787
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: there or anything like I landed the jokes. I could

788
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: have been slower, and yeah I didn't, and I actually

789
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: I love it, like I think it's great. I mean

790
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: it's the heart. It is really hard and the reason

791
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: I think it's so hard. And I said, I'm glad

792
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: I kept you on because I said to Paul, we

793
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: were watching Sebastian Maniscalco and like a bunch of other

794
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: people one weekend, and I said, it feels like The Housewives,

795
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Like I said to Paul, when you do a major

796
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: scene on The Housewives, not like one of these scenes

797
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: where there are two cameras, but there are four camera guys. Right,

798
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: it's like a big scene like someone's christening or something,

799
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: like the train leaves the station and the cameras are on,

800
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: and like you're there and if you say something, you're

801
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: in your head knowing you said it, but like the

802
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: cameras are still on. You have to like keep going,

803
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: so you can't. And there are some great housewives that

804
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: will say something terrible that they should never have said.

805
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: They can get out of their head right away and

806
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: just like keep rolling and not worry about the fact

807
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: in six months from now they're getting canceled. When that's

808
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: on air, and you know, to not be in your head,

809
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: I said to Paul this, it's like that's what stand

810
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: up looks like. They're up there but it's started. The

811
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: people are right there and they can't even go the bathroom,

812
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: like even though the cameras might come with you, but

813
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: just take a minute. Like they're on the goddamn ride

814
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: and they definitely fucked something up and said something wrong,

815
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: and they they're living in it but still in the

816
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: future and in the present at the same time. And

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00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: that seems so hard for like an hour and a

818
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: half special because you've the train has left the station. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

819
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, I mean, it's it's definitely when you

820
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: say it's it's hard, or you know, I feel like

821
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: when you're doing what you want or supposed you're supposed

822
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: to be doing, it's not that hard. But it's I

823
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: would say in the beginning stages, it's hard when you're

824
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: really learning the the world of comedy and perfect well

825
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: there you're going to say, like the mechanics of it too,

826
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: because there are mechanics which most people don't really realize. Absolutely.

827
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: I mean people don't realize that. And I've seen when

828
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: I first started, there was a girl that really in

829
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: her heart and soul, she came and watched the comedy

830
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: show that I did every week in my first year

831
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: of comedy, and she truly believed that every comedian was

832
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: just getting up on stage and just talking, had no plan,

833
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: They didn't think anything before they got on stage. They

834
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: just got on stage and talked. And she signed up

835
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: to go up on stage, and she did and just

836
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: crumbled and the crowd destroyed her and she was crying.

837
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: And I went out to eat with her at a

838
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: diner afterwards, and she was like, how do you do that?

839
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. I thought you were

840
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: just talking And I was like, no, no, there's so

841
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: much the guy. I mean, I was going up on stage,

842
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, six or seven nights a week, and working

843
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: at it all the time. Time. Yeah, it's funny because

844
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I think me going up and doing well was beginner's

845
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: luck in a way. And the reason I say that

846
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: it's so I've done to not to her point, but

847
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: I've done speaking engagements around the country and it always

848
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: ends up being like a stand up back, like people

849
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: are laughing at all this different stuff, but it still

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Speaker 1: has a structure, it still has some base that I

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Speaker 1: can always go back to, meaning I'm I'm promoting a

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Speaker 1: book and there's ten rules to it, or I've come

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Speaker 1: in because we're talking about charity. I've got like bullet

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Speaker 1: points to go to. I've got a tool kit, and

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Speaker 1: what I realized that night, and also it was a

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Speaker 1: week that I said I was doing. And of course

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Speaker 1: every person would be great at it. Everybody said my accountant, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know I'd be great at that. Everybody I've always

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Speaker 1: wanted to do. Okay, so go do it. Like it

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Speaker 1: annoyed me because I felt like I was gonna get

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Speaker 1: up and do it no matter what. It wasn't particularly

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Speaker 1: nervous because the worst could happen is I guess that

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Speaker 1: you're not funny, which is pretty bad. But the reason

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Speaker 1: I felt safe when I did do it, even if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't so funny, which people really did laugh, they

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Speaker 1: weren't like crying rolling in the aisles, but like it

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Speaker 1: was a success. It was a if I grated myself

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Speaker 1: on a test, it was an eighty five. Yeah, so so.

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Speaker 1: But I felt safe because it was organized, like I

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Speaker 1: felt like I had a nest. Even if it wasn't

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Speaker 1: that funny, it was talking in an organized manner like.

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Speaker 1: So that was why I didn't feel like it could

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Speaker 1: be a total bomb, because I knew where I was

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Speaker 1: going and even if that wasn't the funniest joke, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't feel lost. So the organization was what surprised me

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Speaker 1: the most about stand up comedy. Yeah, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a complicated beast and it um and it's

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Speaker 1: easy for some, and you know there are others that

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Speaker 1: have been doing it for decades and they still are

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Speaker 1: rattling in their boots backstage and wow, yeah it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would love it. I would have. That's like a

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Speaker 1: that's like a career path I would have. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: like traveling like you do and going to all these cities.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't enjoy that, and I won't sort of taint

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Speaker 1: how the process by like dabbling, because I realize how

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Speaker 1: hard you work and how hard people work. So it's

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Speaker 1: like something you have to fully commit to, which is

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Speaker 1: why I've only done it that one time, to break

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Speaker 1: the seal and see what it would feel like. But

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Speaker 1: when I got responses from people like Chris Rock and

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Speaker 1: Ellen and Kathy like it was nothing and Kevin Neal,

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Speaker 1: I had so much respect for the craft that like

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Speaker 1: people were so in detail about the advice, Like Chris

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Speaker 1: Rock gave me the longest piece of advice and I

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Speaker 1: don't know him well, I just was so moved by

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Speaker 1: him writing five, you know, a couple of paragraphs and

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Speaker 1: a text and give me like really solid takeaway advice.

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Speaker 1: So I thought the whole experience was like to I

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Speaker 1: honored the craft that you do. More that makes any sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, that's my comedy story. Well cool, thank you, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming, and I hope I

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Speaker 1: cross paths with you again soon. Yes, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me