WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: Giannis Contract Extension Blockbuster

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hour NBA news. This's you'll, Chris Hanes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's go time, work's.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, it's so time. This League Uncut is underway and

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<v Speaker 1>on fire. This should be a good one. Friends, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>in to the eve of the NBA season, the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eighth season. It starts tomorrow night. Chris Haynes and

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<v Speaker 1>I are recording this edition of This League Uncut late

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night, a very newsy Monday in the NBA. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the news we expected. It was extension deadline day

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<v Speaker 1>for the Class of twenty twenty first round picks. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we ended up with fourteen contract extensions, a new record.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of that was upended and overshadowed sometime after

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<v Speaker 1>the six PM buzzer for the Class of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>when Yanis on Tetokumpo himself announced to the world that

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<v Speaker 1>he has extended his contract with the Milwaukee Bucks. And

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<v Speaker 1>as luck would have it, my good friend Chris Haynes

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<v Speaker 1>was traveling to Milwaukee today. He is now safely in Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be covering Thursday nights Bucks season opener against the Drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaden Philadelphia seventy six ers. Mister Haynes, how's Milwaukee treating

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<v Speaker 1>you so far? Not as well as it's treating Yannis.

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<v Speaker 1>But you are there in the heart of the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>news cauldron.

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee. It looks it is fall falls in the air,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful scenery.

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<v Speaker 1>St You've always got to take it back to weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I bring up Milwaukee, the first thing, the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing you give me is the weather report.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Stein. That is important, that is very important.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is beautiful. The weather is beautiful Stein. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I went walking walking downtown. It's afternoon, a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of rain, a little bit of rain, but not too cold.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not bring a jacket. That was a mistake

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<v Speaker 2>by me. I have a sweater.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a shirt for Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>shirt for your TV?

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a you know what. So part of

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<v Speaker 2>me going walking downtown, I actually stopped at a store

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<v Speaker 2>and picked up a shirt to do to do the

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<v Speaker 2>interview that I have scheduled tomorrow Stein. So, but the

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<v Speaker 2>weather is okay, it's not it's not horrible like they

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<v Speaker 2>said it might be. It's doable, and so for that

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<v Speaker 2>I am grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is actually a two suit trip for you

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<v Speaker 1>because you have an assignment before the game. Assignment that

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<v Speaker 1>is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what my assignment is? Tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a guest, but I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 1>Are you allowed to discuss it or is it top secret?

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<v Speaker 1>Or I don't want to get you in. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to. I don't want to get you in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you don't? Uh? Okay, Well, am I gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>my own self in trouble? Well? I mean it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to get out tomorrow anyway. So tomorrow, which will

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<v Speaker 2>be Tuesday, October twenty fourth, I have a TNT sit

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<v Speaker 2>down interview with both Giannis and Dame that will air

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<v Speaker 2>on TNT on Game Night Thursday. Uh, in advance of

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<v Speaker 2>six Ers Bucks game. And I will be doing the

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<v Speaker 2>sidelines for that game.

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<v Speaker 1>And you got plenty to talk about because Gianna Santetokumpo

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<v Speaker 1>he has been saying that he was not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do his contract extension until after the season because it

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<v Speaker 1>made the most financial sense. First, he was very vocal

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<v Speaker 1>about saying he wanted to be sure that the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>would continue to be a team competing for championships and

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<v Speaker 1>doing whatever it takes to compete for championships. The Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>responded to those interviews by trading for Damian Lillard and

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<v Speaker 1>now Gianni Santetokumpo, after telling us that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to most likely wait until after the season. Surprise surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>he announced today that he's done his extension the max

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<v Speaker 1>that he was eligible for. To do it by the

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night deadline. He was facing three years a shade

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<v Speaker 1>under one hundred and ninety million player option in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, twenty eight. But man, what what a win

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bucks. I did my power rankings on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>my annual preseason rankings, and I've been doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>more than twenty years. The Denver Nuggets have to be

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<v Speaker 1>number one because they're the defending champs. That's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a rule that I have adopted as the Committee

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<v Speaker 1>of won That's the I always do it. Unless something

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<v Speaker 1>crazy happens to the defending champions, some sort of roster

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<v Speaker 1>or injury chaos, I always bestow that honor upon the

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<v Speaker 1>defending champs. I think that the Denver Nuggets deserves to

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<v Speaker 1>start the season as the new number one. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee Bucks trading for Damian Lillard and then getting Yanis

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<v Speaker 1>onto Tecumpo to sign a contract extension a year before

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<v Speaker 1>he said he would, when a month ago there was

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<v Speaker 1>all this perceived pressure on the Bucks that they better

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<v Speaker 1>do something to keep Giannus happy. Absolutely stunning turnaround. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it costs the Bucks Drew Holliday, but what an offseason

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<v Speaker 1>they've had to trade for Dame and get Giannis resigned.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no matter what happens this season, the trade

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<v Speaker 1>is a win. Trading for Damian Lillard convinced clearly convince

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<v Speaker 1>Jiannis to do this now, I mean that's incredibleitible incredible

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<v Speaker 1>month here for the for the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it'll be intriguing to hear from Gianni's

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<v Speaker 2>on what went into him, you know, changing his mind

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<v Speaker 2>and going that route. And definitely, I mean if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at, you know, from the outside looking in, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at what the Bucks have been doing, especially

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<v Speaker 2>since John Horse took over a general manager, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they've shown not only honest, but they've shown the fan base,

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<v Speaker 2>fan base that they're committed to trying to produce a

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<v Speaker 2>championship team. And they've done that and they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>sustain that. So I have to give props to John

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<v Speaker 2>Horse ownership grew, uh, you know, going out and trading

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<v Speaker 2>for Dame. You know, we're still you know, I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>very interested in seeing how that's going to look in

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season, you know, when those when this team

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<v Speaker 2>gets a gets a decent amount of games under their belt,

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<v Speaker 2>where Giannis and Dan could play with each other a

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<v Speaker 2>ton more, just to see what they can produce. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Bucks, again, they did everything that they could do

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<v Speaker 2>to try to convince Giannis that they're committed, that he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to go anywhere else. And still, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Yalla still get gives himself out getting that player option

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, just to you know, see what these

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<v Speaker 2>next couple of years are going to be like. But

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a win win for the Bucks and a win

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<v Speaker 2>win for Giannis. You know, Jannis, he did he did

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<v Speaker 2>say he wasn't going to do anything until after next season.

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<v Speaker 2>But before that he said money is not important. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fucking money is important. Now those are his

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<v Speaker 2>exact words right there, and so I think, what is

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<v Speaker 2>about sixty something million a year? I think this will

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<v Speaker 2>qualify as a lot of fucking money.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he said that, he was basically implying that

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<v Speaker 1>this extension wasn't big enough, and that he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>wait till the summer so it could attack on a

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<v Speaker 1>year and make it even more lucrative. But look, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that you take your hat off to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks is because these moves do not guarantee them a championship.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even guarantee that they get out of the East.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of what Boston's done, I personally feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks have the higher ceiling. But as I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been digesting everyone's preseason prognostication, all our colleagues around the league,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like I'm in the minority. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like more people are picking Boston to win the East.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though the Celtics have sacrificed depth by swapping

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<v Speaker 1>out a quartette of familiar faces including Marcus Smart and

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Williams, time Lord Malcolm Brogden, they turn those four

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<v Speaker 1>guys into Christops Porzingis and Drew Holliday. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when I listen to the punditry, it seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people think, Okay, Boston has the best top

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<v Speaker 1>six in the league, if that is such a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that there is a sense that the Celtics are

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<v Speaker 1>going to just be absolutely locked down on the defensive end,

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<v Speaker 1>even though there will be concerns about can Porzingis stay healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>Can Hal Horford at thirty seven, continue to play at

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<v Speaker 1>the level he's played. Are they big enough to handle

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<v Speaker 1>what the Bucks can throw at them, what maybe Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>can throw at them with Joe El Embiid. But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like the Celtics are a bit

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<v Speaker 1>trendy or a pick, a bit more popular, a pick

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of the East than the Bucks are.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally, yes, there's no question the Bucks have sacrificed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot by giving up jew Holiday, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their team is getting a little bit older, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are concerns can they be as good defensively as they've

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<v Speaker 1>been in the past without Holiday at the point of

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<v Speaker 1>attack and with brook Lopez advancing in age, they can

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<v Speaker 1>they still be dominant defensively. But my belief is that

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive ceiling they now have would Dame's. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a trade they had to make offense half court offense specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>that's been the issue for the Bucks in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>when things haven't gone that well. But look, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a long winded way of saying. My reaction is

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<v Speaker 1>really just what it was the last time. Honus extended.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the closest thing to winning a championship that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks can experience. They now have Giannis and Game on

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<v Speaker 1>similar contractual tracks. These guys are going to be together now,

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<v Speaker 1>locked in for the next two to three seasons. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Bucks can't really ask for more.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why, you know, I get your point. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm seeing it. You know, I see a

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<v Speaker 2>going by ways. I see pundits going the Milwaukee route,

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<v Speaker 2>picking Milwaukee over Boston. I never looked at it like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who has the like who's more? I guess essentially you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying top heavy? Who is the the most top heavy team,

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<v Speaker 2>Boston or Milwaukee? And I still think, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Bobby Porters is arguably the the best

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<v Speaker 2>six man out there. He would you know, he would

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<v Speaker 2>be in that top six for Milwaukee. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth. I don't know, it's it's tough, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have my I have my concerns with both teams.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to Boston, it's the depth, it's the size.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to when it comes to Milwaukee. How

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<v Speaker 2>long would it take for Dame and to jail, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to mix with this group. You know, Adrian Griffin new

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<v Speaker 2>you know, new head coach, and then you know something

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna talk about before he'll losing the top assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got concerns on both sides, But definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee and Boston already right now, I think those are

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<v Speaker 2>two teams that we feel that they are at the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the East.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean one of my big questions going in

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<v Speaker 1>the season, how big is the gap between Milwaukee and

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<v Speaker 1>Boston and the rest of the East. If Philly had

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<v Speaker 1>an engaged James Harden, you'd throw them in that same tier.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't. And not only do they not haven't

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<v Speaker 1>engaged James Harden, the Sixers have nothing but uncertainty about

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<v Speaker 1>is he going to play? Are they gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to find a palatable trade? Is anybody else gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>in that trade mix besides the Clippers? How is embiid

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<v Speaker 1>gonna handle the uncertainty? And how long before he gets

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<v Speaker 1>really frustrated? So a lot of questions about the Sixers too,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, yes, the Bucks and the Celtics. Despite

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<v Speaker 1>whatever question marks you want to raise in either case,

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<v Speaker 1>those two teams have clearly separated themselves from the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the East Pack, and the man sit down with

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<v Speaker 1>Jannis and Dame not bad. Let's go to what we

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<v Speaker 1>thought we were going to be focusing on. Terry Stotts's

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<v Speaker 1>abrupt departure has raised a lot of eyebrows around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian Griffin is a first time head coach. You see

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<v Speaker 1>this with any team that brings in a first time

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, they always want at least one of the

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<v Speaker 1>assistants to be a former NBA head coach. There was

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<v Speaker 1>so much talk last season with Boston that Joe Mizzoula

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<v Speaker 1>suffered from not having enough experience around him on his

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<v Speaker 1>bench after he abruptly replaced Ema Udoka. So the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bucks would want a Terry Statts, a former

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, to be on Adrian Griffin's staff, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>natural move. The way it's unraveled so quickly, Terry Stotts

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<v Speaker 1>electing to walk away from the job less than a

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<v Speaker 1>week before the season starts, how big a deal. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, let's tell us what you know as

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<v Speaker 1>far as what happened here, and how big a deal

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<v Speaker 1>is this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a pretty big deal because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>see a departure like this days before, well a week

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<v Speaker 2>before the regular season comes about. The offense they were

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<v Speaker 2>running is a Terry Stotts offense. It's everything that Damian

0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Lillard is all too familiar with, to a point where

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<v Speaker 2>Dame was kind of instructing guy. I think I touched

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<v Speaker 2>on this last part he was instructing. This is the

0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.520
<v Speaker 2>last part we were talking about this, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is before Stotts resign and we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>just how comfortable Dame was and how he was instructing

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<v Speaker 2>guys where to be. You know, he was just on

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<v Speaker 2>top of that so much. So it's very surprising. It's

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very significant. I do. But let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, I've seen the reports out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and for the most part, yeah, everything that's been reported

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<v Speaker 2>about what happened the day before he resigned at shoot

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<v Speaker 2>around in Oklahoma City. You know, there there was a

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<v Speaker 2>point that shoot around after shoot around when when there

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<v Speaker 2>was a huddle, there was a huddle to end shoot around,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they do the huddle and they break

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<v Speaker 2>and then Terry Stotts afterwards he walked away, was walking

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<v Speaker 2>away to watch film with Dame an Giannis and Griffin

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<v Speaker 2>had already said before the break, before they broke out, coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>let's meet on the court afterwards. And so this that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of aggravated Griffin because every other coach came and

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<v Speaker 2>got it around him except Stott. Stotts went and went away,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Stotts, I mean, excuse me, Griffin called for Stotts,

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<v Speaker 2>and Stotts was like the way I was told Stotts

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<v Speaker 2>was like it was a hand signal, like give me

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, give me a minute. And then Griffin kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, went off from there and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he got loud and this caught the attention of the

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<v Speaker 2>whole team. But one thing I want to say to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shed a little bit light on it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. So I was told Stott's approach Dame and

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<v Speaker 2>Giannis before shoot around and told them, hey, after shoot around,

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<v Speaker 2>come watch film with me. Let's watch film on my

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<v Speaker 2>laptop and let's go over some pick and roll coverages.

0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And so Dami Giannis knew to go to starts after

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<v Speaker 2>shooting around. But the issue was that as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as soon as the shoot around was over,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, shooting around was about to be over as

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<v Speaker 2>Griffin gatthered the team to break, to break their huddle

0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.920
<v Speaker 2>so they could end the practice. Right before the huddle break,

0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Griffin told the coaches, Hey, after we break, everybody, let's

0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:09.080
<v Speaker 2>meet all the coaches, let's meet on the court. And

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<v Speaker 2>so that's what that's why Damiannis, they went towards Stotts,

0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:18.720
<v Speaker 2>and that's why Stotts left to go to the bench

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<v Speaker 2>to watch film pick and roll film with Giannis and

0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Dame uh So that that that was never relayed to Griffin,

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<v Speaker 2>that he he had already told those two that he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to watch film. Now, just because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>relayed to him beforehand, it still doesn't justify stots leaving

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<v Speaker 2>and not coming to you know, coming to center court

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<v Speaker 2>like Griffin instructed all his coaches to do. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>there was still a there's still a role that stops

0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Hadden and and kind of elevating that whole thing to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where it was just a distraction that caught

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<v Speaker 2>the attention of everybody. And so, uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you I think our guy Peter VESSI, uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>sent me that tweet. Stein, you think about Stotts's role,

0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Peter VESSI was, I mean, excuse me, coach Stotts was

0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:22.399
<v Speaker 2>hired by John Horst, the general manager, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you start to think about what Stots really comfortable. Was

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<v Speaker 2>he comfortable? Was he comfortable being an assistant to a

0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:37.879
<v Speaker 2>rookie head coach? So another another another background too, Stein.

0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if this has anything to

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<v Speaker 2>do with it, but let's go back almost a decade ago,

0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.879
<v Speaker 2>a little bit over a decade. I was covering the

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<v Speaker 2>Blazers when uh, they hired Stotts. But before they hired Stotts,

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<v Speaker 2>they had four finalists and the fourth finalists I know,

0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:03.240
<v Speaker 2>I remember three for sure, but it was Stott's, Steve

0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Clifford and Adrian Griffin. Those were three of the four finalists.

0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to say maybe Elston Turner was the fourth.

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.960
<v Speaker 2>But you know this goes all the way back back then,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know Stott's got the job right there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how comfortable I reached out to Stots.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he'd you know, he didn't want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and so I don't know if Stotts just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really feeling it the way. The way it was

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<v Speaker 2>explained to me, it was that it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>bad fit. That's the way it was explained to me

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<v Speaker 2>by somebody real deep into the situation. It really has

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.200
<v Speaker 2>to say so in the situation. So it just leads

0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:50.000
<v Speaker 2>me to believe that maybe both sides just wasn't ready

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.440
<v Speaker 2>for that type of relationship.

0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.360
<v Speaker 1>And again, you know, and I think we're I think

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<v Speaker 1>really within in the last five years especially, more and

0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 1>more or teams are kind of choosing assistance they'll hire

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.159
<v Speaker 1>and they'll hire a new head coach. But teams have

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>much more say in choosing assistants for a new head

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.800
<v Speaker 1>coach than they used to over the last five, maybe

0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.000
<v Speaker 1>even five to ten seasons. You just see that, So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, you mentioned that Peter VESSI our

0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.560
<v Speaker 1>good friend. You know, he tweeted out how you know,

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.199
<v Speaker 1>based on his information that Terry Stotts was appointed to

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<v Speaker 1>the staff by John Horst rather than being directly chosen

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:37.080
<v Speaker 1>by Adrian Griffin. But again, that is not unusual. And

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<v Speaker 1>because Adrian Griffin is a first time coach, I think

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.760
<v Speaker 1>any team that would be hiring him would want him

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<v Speaker 1>to have a former head coach on the staff. And

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you remember, it was just a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying, like, the Bucks coaching staff fascinated me

0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 1>because Terry Stotts was a former Bucks head coach. Joe

0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Prunty is a former Bucks interim head coach, and I

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was all jacked up for you, you too, on your

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<v Speaker 1>first TNT assignment of the year, to put the put

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the full court press on your research department to find

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>out has that ever happened? Because I can't remember it,

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been able to confirm it. Has an NBA

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff ever had two former head coaches in that

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:23.000
<v Speaker 1>franchise on the bench as assistants. Later and now, of

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.639
<v Speaker 1>course that question no longer applies, it's no longer valid.

0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.560
<v Speaker 1>But this there's no way this story is over. As

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<v Speaker 1>euphoric as the Bucks must be as we speak, to

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.639
<v Speaker 1>know that Giannis has committed to a contract extension and

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.479
<v Speaker 1>that they've pulled off this trade for Damian Lillard, you know,

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.200
<v Speaker 1>there's there's questions that need to be answered. Are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to stick with Terry Statts's offense even though he's

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<v Speaker 1>not there? Are they going to try to find a

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 1>replacement for Terry Stotts. Are they going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>find another former head coach to step in? And you

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.199
<v Speaker 1>know Terry Stotts, as you mentioned, having coached I mean,

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 1>what was with Dane eight season, nine seasons together in Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously that was you know, that was the comfort factor

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that Dame had going to a new team, a new conference,

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.679
<v Speaker 1>a new city, and now that's taken away. So how

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 1>much will that factor? How how much will that affect

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Dame's adjustment to this completely new situation. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of questions this story again, we is we don't turn

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<v Speaker 1>the page on this one, not quickly.

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.680
<v Speaker 2>No, you can't. And as of right now, I want

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.199
<v Speaker 2>to say this that the Bucks are still trying to

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.399
<v Speaker 2>figure out if they're going to replace thats you know,

0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 2>by adding another uh, you know, replace his position, bringing

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.399
<v Speaker 2>on another coaching staff. So that is still up in

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the air.

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's shift to Philly and Harden the other team you

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:53.440
<v Speaker 1>will see Thursday night in Milwaukee. The Sixers really seem

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to be approaching this in true day to day fashion.

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 1>We're getting basically a daily update, you know, daily confirmations

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that no, Harden is still not with the team. I mean,

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 1>what are you expecting. I mean, it doesn't it as

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:14.919
<v Speaker 1>little as the Sixers saw Harden during training camp, I

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>guess at this point, I really don't think anyone was

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>expecting to see him swoop in to join the team

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.199
<v Speaker 1>for opening night in Milwaukee. And let's be honest, I mean,

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't had the practice time anyway. I doubt even

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>if he did all of a sudden join the team,

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not ready to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't see that happening at all, him being

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 2>ready for that Thursday game against the Bucks. Don't see

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 2>it happening. You know, You're right. The day to day

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:46.360
<v Speaker 2>That's that's what we're kind of left with. The day

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to day updates or non updates, I should say, on

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.640
<v Speaker 2>James Harden. He's been away from the team for it's

0:23:54.680 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 2>been over a week now, So again, like get I

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>get Houston, excuse me, Houston, I get Philadelphia's I get

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 2>what they're dealing with here. I just don't know how

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>long you want to continue to keep this up. James

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Harden has made it clear he does not want to

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 2>play for the Sixers. He's making it clear he does not,

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 2>and I you know, you're putting the coat. You put

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Nick Nurse and the players into a situation that every

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 2>day they have to answer about James Harden and they

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 2>have no answers, and you know, they're handling, they're handling

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 2>things the best that they can, but it's not fair

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to them. It's really not and poor, you know, Tyrese

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Maxi Stein. I don't know if you caught Tyresee he

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 2>said something. It was last week he said he believed

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 2>No he said on the pod and I can't remember

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the pod. It might have been No. I think it

0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:01.719
<v Speaker 2>was JJ Reddick's pod last week. JJ asked Tyrese about

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 2>just how he's handling, you know, the James Harden debacle.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, is it you know, is it tough for

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 2>him and the team to have to go through this?

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 2>And Tyree says something that was pretty sad, but he

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.959
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm used to this, Like I dealt with

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 2>this with Ben Simmons. And I think he mentioned somebody

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>else before that I can remember, but he was like,

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm just used to this. He's like, so this is

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 2>like the norm for me. And uh he was like,

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.239
<v Speaker 2>so you know, if you if you compare to us,

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, other situations I guess it's not as worse,

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 2>but you know this, this is the norm to me,

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and that's pretty sad for a player to to say

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 2>something like that. I think it just shows you, Ah,

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 2>it shows you what the the Sixers have been through

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 2>over the last few years. It's so I don't know,

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.199
<v Speaker 2>like I know, the Sixers have a hard stance on

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>what they're trying to get. What's the latest time? What

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 2>from what you're hearing it, what is it that the

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Sixers want in return for James Harden.

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, basically what I keep hearing is, you know, the

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Clippers are not going to put Terrence Mann in this deal.

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And my instinct is that the Sixers will be more

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>patient and put up with more of this uncertainty. They

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.959
<v Speaker 1>will show more patients than just about any team in

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the league would in this position. That's Darryl Morey's mo o.

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to rush into a trade. You know,

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the Sixers went a very respectable fifteen to nine last

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>season when they didn't have James Harden, and a lot

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of it is because of the guy you just mentioned,

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Tyrese MAXI. You know he is you know, is this

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the year? You know, he's a most improved Player contender.

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>He's an All Star contender, and so I think the Sixers,

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I think Darryl Moury is prepared to wait as long

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>as it takes for a better trade offer to come along.

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I think Nick Nurse you will hear Nick Nurse. I

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>promise you will hear this. Since you're at this game.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Nick Nurse will reference his past coaching in England and

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 1>in the minor leagues and all the crazy curveballs that

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>he was always fielding at those levels, and you know

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>that prepared him to kind of deal with whatever happens

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.479
<v Speaker 1>now and he'll coach whoever's there. I'm sure that's what

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Nick will say publicly. I mean, based on my latest information,

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the Clippers, you know, they will give up Norman Powell,

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Morris, maybe Brandon Boston, and then you know they've

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>got to sort out the pick compensation. But that's to

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>my knowledge. As far as the offer goes from the Clippers,

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>they continue to say they are not going to trade

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Terrence Man. Philly wants Terrence Man because the Sixers believe

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 1>that they can flip Terrence Man into compensation that helps

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>their down the road picture. And you know, it's just

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>a matter of who is going to blink first? You know,

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>does a slow start in Clipperland change the Clippers' stance?

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, really the variable, you know, the variable that

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>really could change things here, it's Joel emb At this point,

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the feeling is that Joel Embiid is going to go

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>into this season with an open mind and a belief

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that the Sixers can continue to be competitive even without

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>James Harden. But how long that lasts? Joel Embiid has

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>dealt with tons of turmoil, He's got he's got his

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>MVP Award, but the pressure is on him now to

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>win a championship? Is he Is he the one who's

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>going to run out of patients? And if he does,

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>how will that impact Philly's management stance? Can Darryl Morey

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>convince Joe well Embiid, big fella, hang tight, stick with us.

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>We are going to get a resolution here that benefits

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you and the franchise above all. How long can Darryl

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Moorey keep selling that position?

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 2>That is really the question, that's the that's the million

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>dollar questions. Now you hit the nail on the head

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>right there is the whereas Joelnbie's patient level with this

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>This is something he's dealt with for many years, many years,

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 2>same story, different characters. You know, pressure, you talk about pray. Yeah,

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>definitely does pressure because he wants to win it. He

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>wants to win a championship. He's an MVP player, He's

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>that caliber of a talent. But I kind of think

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 2>he has an out. I think he has an out

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>because he's dealt with so much that's beyond his control

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 2>with management, with personnel. I don't know that the pressure

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>is on him like the like pressure is maybe on

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>somebody like Kevin Durant in Phoenix, you know, but definitely

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>pressure because he's one of those top guys. But I

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>just think that he's dealt with so much with that organization.

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, guys just there's just been too many distractions

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>that I beat Ryan. Dangn I listen, I messed up,

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>So Stein, I have a joke. I had have messed

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>up and did something. So, you know, I just sometimes

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm just competitive with the wrong thing. So you know,

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 2>our great super producer Ryan, he'll always every five minutes

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>he'll text us an update. And so the last couple

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>of episodes, Stein I try to beat him in texting,

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>like every five minutes. So I'm looking at the time

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 2>as we're talking, and I try to beat him to

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>a text to us every five minutes. So the last

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 2>text he told us was it was we were twenty

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 2>five minutes in, and so I'm monitoring this. I'm like,

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I got this text ready, I'm about to put thirty

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>minutes after five minutes his so five minutes come, I

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>heard up and text it. But I text forty minutes

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 2>instead of thirty minutes, and so it technically I was wrong,

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I guess I shouldn't be doing it. I

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be doing two things at once. But I'm just

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 2>competitive like that. Stile. I'm sorry, my apologies.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Man, I think you need some new hobbies.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's like it's like breakless scoop, like break

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 2>the story.

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, let produce a Ryan music produce, let him,

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>let him have his domain. I mean, here's the thing

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm glad that you actually got to town

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>so early because you can spend all your Tuesday with

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Giannis and Dame and ask them all these questions. Why

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>did he sign the contract? Now? Why did Janis and

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Todokoumpo sign his max deal? Now? When we initially got

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>to signaled it from him that he was going to

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>wait until after the season. Why did he do the extension?

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Now get to ask Amian Lillard what is the impact

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.479
<v Speaker 1>of Terry Stotts leaving and what kind of offense are

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the Buck's gonna run without Terry Stotts. You get to

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>deal with all these questions on Tuesday, and that means

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that Thursday you can put your full focus on getting

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>getting with the Sixers because I want I wish I was.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I'm going. I am on my way

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to San Antonio for the Victor Webman Yama Davis. I

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>am super excited about that, but I'm not gonna lie

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to you Thursday, and I would love to walk into

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Sixers shoot around in Milwaukee and see what that scene

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>is like in one of my favorite cities on the

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>NBA map, and you you will get to go and

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>do that for all of us.

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to it. It's a definitely, definitely going

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>to It's gonna be a lot of work because you know,

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Stan I was supposed to I was assigned to be

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 2>on the U for both games. I was assigned to

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 2>be to do Tuesdays war your Son's game, and then

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna come out here for the Bucks six

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Ers Thursday, but this interview timing kind of took me

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>out of that took me off of that assignment in

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Golden State. So but I'm happy. I'm happy to be here, man,

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to get the NBA season to get it started.

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm ready, like I'm a player starn I'm ready, man.

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest, you know, Warriors Sons, I mean,

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be a great night cap to the Tuesday

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>night doubleheader which starts starts with the Denver Nuggets playing

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>host of the Lakers and Ring Knight, and the Nuggets

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>and Lakers have been trading all this trash talk for

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>months now, so great opening night doubleheader and then Warrior Sons.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Chris Paul against his old team, Kevin Durant against

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>his old team, our first look at the new Sun

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>super team trio of Durant, Devin Booker, Bradley Beal. So

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was have been that would have been

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a great gig. But I gotta be honest with you.

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>There is so much news and so much going on

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>with the Milwaukee Bucks and the visiting sixers that it is.

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It ain't the worst thing for you to get in

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee early, get to get to brew Town early, get

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>your bearings, because there's there's gonna be a lot to

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>put in by the time we do this we do

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>by the time we meet up again for a podcast,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>your notebook should be bursting with material.

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, Stein, but I'm also

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to where you're going to be.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. You know, I said this. I did

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a did a whole bunch on my radio show Saturday

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas because I have not seen Victor women Yam

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in person, and the highlights, the clips that have been

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>circulating throughout the postseason have been dazzling. And so to

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>be able to go to San Antonio, a place I've

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>visited the bazillion times over the years. But you know,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's obviously I've I've been in I've been

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>based in Dallas for pretty much the last quarter century.

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>But one of the you know, when I when I

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>first got to Dallas, the Mavericks were a laughing stock.

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>They were the worst franchise in the NBA, and they

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, they were they were just they were only

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a few years removed from back to back eleven and

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>thirteen win seasons. The Mavericks were still digging out of

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that mess when I got to town. But the Dallas

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Morning News was really a state newspaper at the time,

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and if the Rockets were in the playoffs or the

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Spurs were in the playoffs and the Mavericks weren't, if

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you were the if you were part of the Dallas

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Morning News NBA team, you got to go. So I

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>spent tons of time with you know, all of the

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Spurs playoff runs, I've covered them. So I've gone to

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.839
<v Speaker 1>San Antonio a bazillion times over the years. It is

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.399
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite cities. And you know, the very

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>first NBA Summer League I covered was David Robinson just

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>before he joined the Spurs. Was there for the whole

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Tim duncan era. And now the chance to go there

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night and see the official start of the Victor

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Woman Yama era, I'm glad I'm still here for all

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>this man us Old guys, it's nice to, it's nice to,

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it's nice to stick around.

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean, you're a Hall of Famer, You're

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a top notch talent, So I'm not surprised to see

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 2>that you've talied this this many years in the game, man,

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 2>and you have many more ahead. But you know that this,

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 2>this Wimby, this is you know, I thought he was

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna be good, but like if you would have told me,

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I think you know, we talked about this bleed last

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>part as well. You know, maybe a month ago, maybe

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 2>even three weeks ago, you asked me who's my rookie

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.280
<v Speaker 2>of the year favorite, I'm probably telling you Scoot Henderson.

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm thinking Wimby's probably going to be the best

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 2>in this class, but I'm thinking it's going to take

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 2>him a year or so to have like a real impact. Nah, Nah,

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>he's nah. This kid is ready. He's ready. Man, He's

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna like god Lee. I mean that we never see anything,

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, It's that true. You know they we throw

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 2>a unicorn around like it's nothing nowadays, Like you call

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>every you know, you call anybody a unicorn who's a

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 2>five star recruit. This kid, Wemby, is that that is

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 2>what unicorn looks like. This kid can do it all.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 2>We've never seen anything like that.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>You just gave me, You just gave me a good idea.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>We need to get I need to get with some

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>of our French speaking friends and get, you know, get

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the equivalent word of of what you know. And maybe

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe it is just unicorn in French, but maybe there

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>is a French word to describe that has the similar

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>effect of unicorn in English. I don't know. Maybe throw

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a text at Batoum for me see what he says.

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:06.800
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta check with some of my French speaking sources,

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, I agree with you. I mean, this guy

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>is doing things already in the preseason. We have never

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>seen a player of his size do the way he moves,

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the way he handles the shot blocking at the three

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>point line, the court coverage defensively, and I actually I'm

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 1>glad we got on this track to kind of end

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 1>things because I need to make a very very important

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>clarification on Victor Winmbinyama, because I have been making a mistake.

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I've seen several of our colleagues making the same mistake. Yes,

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, there is a sixty five game rule

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>this season on major awards, but it is not applicable

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>to all individual awards, and Rookie of the Year is

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>not one of the awards that you have to play

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>sixty five games games to qualify. And you know that

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was again a mistake that I've made. I was saying,

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 1>how you know a week ago I was saying, the

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>only reason you wouldn't you wouldn't say Wemby is the

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Rookie of the Year favorite is if you don't think

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>he's going to play sixty five games. But I have

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>been corrected. He does not have to play sixty five games.

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>In the new CBA. There are only five awards that

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you have to play the sixty five to be eligible,

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and that's MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, All Defensive Team,

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Most Improved Player, and All NBA Rookie of the Year

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>and the All Rookie Team. Those are not subject to

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the sixty five game minimum. So that makes it even

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>more likely that Victor weh Minyama is going to be

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>the Rookie of the Year because he does not have

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to play sixty five games. And I do think the

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Spurs are going to be very judicious with him. I

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're making an all out charge to try

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to make the playoffs in year one with Wemby, but

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, some something crazy would have to happen for

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>him not to win Rookie of the Year.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you drive to San Antonio or you fly?

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Come on, now, you know me, Okay, what's your what's

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 1>your prediction? Do I drive or do I fly?

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>You fly? Yeah?

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I cannot. I'm too much of a dive.

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I cannot. I cannot stay off my phone for that

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>four hours on the road. It's better to just ride

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to the airport be able to work on them. It's

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a short you know, it's a it's a very short flight.

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.439
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I just I don't like long I don't

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>like four or five hour drives.

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, I'm happy for Santori. I'm happy for the

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Spurs san Antonio. I'll actually that was actually one of

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<v Speaker 2>my I will say top I'll go top ten top

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<v Speaker 2>ten stops on the Beat when I was on the beat,

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<v Speaker 2>san Antonio very very underrated, very underrated. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>know Chuck has its problem with san Antonio, but not me.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually am quite fond of San Antonio, so enjoy I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will do not worry. San Antonio is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>stops on my very first NBA trip as a traveling

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<v Speaker 1>beat writer in the spring of ninety four, and I

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love with it instantly. I've always been treated

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<v Speaker 1>wonderfully there. I mean, people don't believe this. But the

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<v Speaker 1>best pizza that I found in the United States, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go that far. It's in San Antonio, in the

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<v Speaker 1>same place. Again, you would never think this in San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 1>the same restaurant, the Lovely Trade Tratoria in the San

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Museum of Art, serves absolutely scrumptious trout. You would

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<v Speaker 1>never think this is not you know, San Antonio is

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<v Speaker 1>known for tex mex You would not think, Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to San Antonio and get amazing gourmet pizza

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<v Speaker 1>and trout. But there you go. Well, someday, someday, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the same city, if we're there together, I

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<v Speaker 1>will take you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna tell you right now, since you touched

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<v Speaker 2>on pizza, the best pizza that I've had in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States Flying Pie Pizza in Portland. Flying Pie for

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<v Speaker 2>the y'all people in Portland, y'all know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I love those people at Flying Pie. They always they

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<v Speaker 2>always greet me with, you know, so much admiration when

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<v Speaker 2>I come in man, Flying Pie Pizza Stein. So when

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<v Speaker 2>we go there to Portland, I don't know when that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be, when we're going to be there together,

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<v Speaker 2>but we got to. We gotta get a stop over

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<v Speaker 2>there for sure. Okay, we're going to end it right there.

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<v Speaker 2>And usually Stein is the one that closes our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'd never like to take people's roles. I

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<v Speaker 2>like to allow them to do their job and I

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<v Speaker 2>want them to flourish and I want them to feel

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<v Speaker 2>supported whenever they do it. But I have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it this time because as we were going off about

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<v Speaker 2>our food ventures and our favorite pizza, and Stein was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about trout in San Antonio and pizza and San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 2>his audio just went out. So I can see Stein

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<v Speaker 2>on my end, and I see his lips moving, but

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's coming out, so he has no audio. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm stepping in and closing this bad boy out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I appreciate you guys listening to this League Uncut

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<v Speaker 2>with Stein and myself. I'm going to be here again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here in Milwaukee. I got Thursday night's game between

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<v Speaker 2>the Bucks and Sixers, and I would have sat down

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<v Speaker 2>with Beiannis and Dame for T and T. Stein is

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<v Speaker 2>off to San Antonio to see win Biyama to see

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<v Speaker 2>what the frenzy is about. And we'll be back with

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<v Speaker 2>you guys later this week. So appreciate you guys, have

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<v Speaker 2>a great week, and I'm saying it for Stein. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for listening. Appreciate you guys, subscribe all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>And that'll do it for us. See you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>This league and Cuttage, an iHeartRadio production.

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<v Speaker 2>Put a locker

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Hanes and Mark Stein