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Speaker 2: I took it back the next day.

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Speaker 1: He kept the tag on that motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: You kept the tag right in there. I took it

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Speaker 3: back the next day.

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Speaker 4: Welcome Back Unplugged, our weekly spin around spots, Sports, culture, Entertainment.

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Speaker 4: We got a special guest off the Rip today, Jack.

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Speaker 4: But before we introduce our guests, Jack, you was just

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Speaker 4: out in Mexico. I can see you got a little darker.

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Speaker 4: Didn't try to Yeah, I know, I know you run

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Speaker 4: from the sun, but sometimes that ship is tough.

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Speaker 1: How were you? I know you was out there with

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Speaker 1: socks on the beach. How was that Mexico?

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Speaker 5: Bro Man. I had a good time. It was good

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Speaker 5: to get away because it's been to ramp up. You know,

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Speaker 5: we got a lot of stuff going on with the

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Speaker 5: tour in Big three, so I needed to get away.

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Speaker 5: Wife enjoyed it. Had my childhood friend who I went

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Speaker 5: to middle school with. Movie, So who's a good trip

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Speaker 5: I needed. He was Indianapolis for the third Let it Go,

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Speaker 5: uy b. We did well three and one.

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Speaker 4: Played an eight am game out there, which is five

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Speaker 4: am our time. They called us slipping once, but all

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Speaker 4: qualified for peace jam we'll be ready to rock uh

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Speaker 4: in July. Man, I want to welcome in right now.

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Speaker 4: Our brother Charlotte Maagne, what's good, bro?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: What's up my brothers? Matt Stack's happening?

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Speaker 4: What's up my boy? We saw your donky other day.

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Speaker 4: We definitely want to touch on that at some point,

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Speaker 4: but let's start with some positivity first. Uh, you know

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Speaker 4: we can't with so Charlott Mane. We came together what

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Speaker 4: two years ago.

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Speaker 2: It might be like four, five, going on five.

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Speaker 1: It's been going on five.

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Speaker 2: It's been a high school term, bachelor's degree in college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're blaming on the Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well no, obviously we appreciate you know, you came in

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Speaker 4: and found us in and brought us an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: work with you and your company Black Effects over there

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Speaker 4: at iHeart and it's been a very solid situation in

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Speaker 4: partnership and relationship.

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Speaker 1: But also through that has come.

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Speaker 4: We have a coffee table book, Yeah, launch in October eighth,

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Speaker 4: and it is through your company. Explain how the partnership

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Speaker 4: with Simon and Schuster and I don't want to butcher

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Speaker 4: the other name, but kind of explain how that came

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Speaker 4: through your publishing deal.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm just a fan of what y'all do. Man.

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Speaker 2: First of all, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 6: It's always a pleasure to be on one of my

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Speaker 6: favorite podcasts, man, with two of the most authentic voices.

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Speaker 6: You know, you family, absolutely two of the most authentic

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Speaker 6: voices we have out here in media. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't think y'all get enough credit because I could

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Speaker 6: be wrong, but you know, salute everybody, all the athletes,

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Speaker 6: you know, the former athletes that are doing podcasts and

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Speaker 6: doing their YouTube and shows, their YouTube shows and stuff now,

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Speaker 6: but all the smokers, the originators, ye young, I can't

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Speaker 6: think of no, I can't think anybody that who was

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Speaker 1: Prior to y'all, not the way we did it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean from the from the podcast and you know,

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Speaker 6: you know how y'all would taking the visuals and putting

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Speaker 6: them on YouTube. You know, the partnership with Showtime, all

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Speaker 6: of that, all of that was like groundbreaking. And I

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Speaker 6: think that you know, y'all showed, you know, the athletes

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Speaker 6: And you know, y'all just y'all just did that so successfully, man,

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Speaker 6: because you know, everybody always feel like they had to

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Speaker 6: and now those voices on the networks getting trumped by

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Speaker 6: what y'all doing. You know, it's always a pleasure to

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Speaker 6: So you know, when when when I've had this book

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Speaker 6: Like it's not one of those things that you even

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Speaker 4: To be able to see you in the space, befriend you,

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Speaker 4: Obviously what you've done has motivated us and me in

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Speaker 4: you had this show and Breakfast Club. How do you

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Speaker 4: branch out? How do you build out? We had a

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Speaker 4: all the smoke productions, you know, outside of leaving showtime

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Speaker 4: which is important. Obviously our main focus right now is sports,

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Speaker 4: but you know, educated enough to speak in other spaces,

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Speaker 4: but an expert to speak in other spaces as well.

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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, what you've done has obviously

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Speaker 4: motivated us to think bigger than just show and you know,

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Speaker 4: motivated us to continue to go. But yeah, we have

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Speaker 4: a new book coming out October eighth, A The Table

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Speaker 4: book will go you know over our two hundred plus episodes,

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Speaker 4: highlight some of our guests, some of our amazing conversations,

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Speaker 4: stuff you've made forgot about or not seen the first

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Speaker 4: time around. Man, So definitely looking forward to that dropping

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Speaker 4: October eighth.

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Speaker 1: You can pre order now. The link is in our

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Speaker 1: bio Charlamage.

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Speaker 4: You you got some good stuff coming up, just dropped

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Speaker 4: the new book.

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Speaker 2: Get Honest or Die line, why small talk sucks?

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Speaker 5: Go get my boy book Man, and he got a

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Speaker 5: nice little round table card game for the adults to

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it the.

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Speaker 4: Thought behind your book, Charlemagne, and what else kind of

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Speaker 4: comes with that, because I know you've got a new

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Speaker 6: Well, the book Man is just like you know, every

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Speaker 6: day it's like a challenge, like to wake up and

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Speaker 6: just keeping honest with yourself, Like and everybody always want

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Speaker 6: So like it's just a challenge to everybody to, like, yo,

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Speaker 6: get honest or Die line. Like, we see people lying

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Speaker 6: the era were in right now where everybody got a platform,

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Speaker 6: just my challenge to everybody, man, like, challenge yourself to

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Speaker 6: be honest with yourself every single day. You do that,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's easy to show up in the world

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Speaker 5: I like that, man, because today, especially in social media,

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Speaker 5: it's this thing now where people are creating just fake

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it's it's very I like what he said.

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Speaker 5: You got to start being real with yourself, man, because

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Speaker 5: it's so much false stuff out that people believe anything

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Speaker 6: And the why small talk sucks part is just because man,

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Speaker 6: I hate small talk literally and figuratively. Like I hate

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Speaker 6: when you know, like you somewhere somebody just try to

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Speaker 6: you gotta tell you brother, like, hey, you know, I

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Speaker 6: appreciate it, but just like, let's talk about something else.

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Speaker 6: Let's actually talk about something that we're gonna talk and

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Speaker 6: then I feel like you know, nowadays, people just be

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Speaker 2: Man, it'd be like these small hues like.

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Speaker 6: I saw, I saw, I saw when you came back

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Speaker 6: on social media after your break, Jack, and you was like, man,

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Speaker 6: y'all be on here talking about a bunch of nothing.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed my vacation away from social media.

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Speaker 2: Man, That's that's how I'd be every day.

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Speaker 6: Like Yo, we make these small issues into the biggest

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Speaker 2: Or deal with them.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, you show it, right, bro, Let's talk about I mean,

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Speaker 4: the current state of the media because you know, as

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Speaker 4: we're we don't put ourselves above anybody something. Motherfuckers don't

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Speaker 6: Anybody can have a platform, anybody can say anything.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what's true.

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Speaker 6: You don't know what's what's not true, and and that

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Speaker 6: So it's like nowadays there's so much misinformation is being

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Speaker 6: Like what's real understanding? Like who who truly has it?

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Speaker 6: Where do you get it from? But then on the

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Speaker 6: flip side, you have so many people out here who

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Speaker 6: who actually have something to say. So when you ask

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Speaker 6: me what's what, what's what? Stayed the same? Authentic, authentic, authentic,

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Speaker 1: I never could get that word out bro me up today.

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Speaker 6: Being authentic, being authentic will never will never go out

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Speaker 2: And I think people can sniff that out more than ever,

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Speaker 6: I I think that now with all of this AI

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Speaker 6: humans that we trust, you know what I'm saying, Real

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Speaker 6: people that actually they trust and they value their voices

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Speaker 6: and that's something that's always been since the beginning of time.

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Speaker 6: So even though everybody has a platform, I think it's

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Speaker 6: to rise to the top.

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Speaker 1: How with us being.

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Speaker 4: The center of everything cool culture at current events, fashion

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Speaker 4: the creator creators, do you ever see a day where

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Speaker 4: our people are compensated for the influence they have.

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Speaker 5: And I've been guilty of it too, Like I think

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So what I've been blessed,

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Speaker 1: Upbringing where get it, how you live, figure it out,

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Speaker 5: So to be with a team like I have now,

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And that's why I'm not afraid to ask questions, man,

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Speaker 4: What were your thoughts of the back and forth between

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Speaker 1: It's way more commercial than it's ever been.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, with our question. I love I

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Speaker 6: Like you said, Matt, to me, it was like we

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Speaker 6: it felt kind of like with this. You know, Drake

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Speaker 6: I just I was like, damn they went to hell

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Speaker 6: Like calling somebody a pedophile, calling you know, Drake Kendrick,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the fallout will be, if anything,

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Speaker 1: Think any of those I don't think alligation.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, people might make jokes on social

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Speaker 6: But it's just dangerous to watch watch two men me

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Speaker 5: There's two men me to in each other like that.

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Speaker 4: That's an interesting perspective, and I just think from a

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Speaker 4: vice versa. I think both these guys are amazing in

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Speaker 1: Of the greatest to ever do it.

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Speaker 4: They went at each other, it got a little messy,

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Speaker 2: I've always been more of a Kendrick fan.

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Speaker 6: I've always said, I feel like Kendrick is the leader

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Speaker 6: this last generation, I feel like it's a Fantastic four, right,

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Speaker 6: that's the Fantastic Four.

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Speaker 1: That generation.

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Speaker 6: I throw, you know, you can throw the people in

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Speaker 6: And I've always been more of a Kendrick fan anyway.

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Speaker 6: I want to see Kendrick do a West Coast album, man,

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Speaker 6: I gotta be album. Yeah, Man, I think when Kendrick

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Speaker 2: We know what that is.

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Speaker 6: I want to see Kendrick do a whole album that

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Speaker 5: A lot of people got to understand too. It's a

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Speaker 5: I don't think having people knowing that people wrote your music,

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Speaker 1: First of all, Okay, Drake don't know you, Kendrick, you

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Speaker 5: Drake nor Kendrick are gonna text you and say thanks

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Speaker 1: So right, so just enjoy the music.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, me took about just sit back, sit back and

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Speaker 4: what I mean? And it's it's hard out here for

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Speaker 4: always gotta you gotta be sick with you, you gotta

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Speaker 1: You can't have if you gotta have one of those.

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Speaker 6: Well, Matt, you gotta have, well you got hope, Matty. Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 6: hold on, I gotta say this because nobody don't know

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Speaker 6: Matt is not.

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Speaker 5: Your normal boiration for motherfuckers. Okay, if you met Matt's

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Speaker 5: to school. You don't know why he's so goddamn different.

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Speaker 5: You said, you said Matt got dark skin tendencies. Hey man, man,

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Speaker 5: dad could played on Boys and Hood, South Central and.

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Speaker 1: The New Jack City all that shit, Start Road.

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Speaker 2: You can say what you want about Drake. Drake Drake

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Speaker 1: From a challenge. No hell, Now, you gotta respect it.

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Speaker 1: Gotta respect it.

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Speaker 6: You came at him, he got at me. Push your team,

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Speaker 6: got push your team, Kanye, whoever it is all, you

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Speaker 6: would have five different people just now for real, you know,

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Speaker 6: like he held his own like I can't see it

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Speaker 6: and act like I didn't enjoy I enjoyed all Drake music.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed Kendricks a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: But I think that the best record to come out

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Speaker 6: of that whole thing was that Drake Family Matters. I

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Speaker 6: Family Matters is tough.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, creative. What do you think the future holds

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Speaker 1: for streamers? Are artists?

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Speaker 4: short end of the stick. Will there ever be a

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Speaker 4: time where you know where we're screaming independence? More than ever,

438
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Speaker 4: there's a blue that there's a there's a roadmap for it.

439
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Speaker 4: Will there ever be a time where artists are true

440
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Speaker 4: paid what they're worth for their art?

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Speaker 6: The only way that's gonna happen in music is if

442
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Speaker 6: they do it theyself. But you know, they know, they

443
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Speaker 6: known that from the beginning. That's why it's so funny

444
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Speaker 6: when people you know, sign these music you know, these

445
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Speaker 6: deals with these record labels, and they still complaining about

446
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Speaker 6: what these record labels are doing to them, like like

447
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Speaker 6: nothing has changed. Is the beginning of time, and the

448
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Speaker 6: blueprint to make real money off your music has been there.

449
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Speaker 6: Like everybody y'all just named from the South showed you

450
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Speaker 6: how to make money, you know, off off off your music,

451
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Speaker 6: you know, cash money, the no limits to rap a lot.

452
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Speaker 6: They showed you how to make money off your music independently.

453
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Speaker 6: Three six Mafia. Three six Mafia had one of the

454
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Speaker 6: best models come on many defendent wing and then they

455
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Speaker 6: had a major label things, so they was went over

456
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Speaker 6: at the same time, using the major label to continue

457
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Speaker 6: to build their profile, then still putting the little whites

458
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Speaker 6: and everybody out, you know, independently. And I always thought

459
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Speaker 6: that was dope as far as I like, I like

460
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Speaker 6: what the screaming is doing. One in the media like

461
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Speaker 6: I like what cons and not I like what I

462
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Speaker 6: like what those guys do because there's a uh, there's

463
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Speaker 6: a fluidity that they have that even podcasts don't even have,

464
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Speaker 6: because podcasts still record and you know they put out

465
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Speaker 6: you know, they once to twice a week. But you know,

466
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Speaker 6: if Drake want to give academics a record or some

467
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Speaker 6: are are they want to kys and not to talk

468
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Speaker 6: about something right there in that moment, them guys can

469
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Speaker 6: just get on there stream and they they right at

470
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Speaker 6: the people in minutes.

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Speaker 4: Is that the few not to cut you off from?

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Speaker 4: Is that obviously the future of someone like you. You know,

473
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Speaker 4: obviously you've established yourself and you grind it in this

474
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Speaker 4: space for a number of years. These young streamers have

475
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Speaker 4: jumped in the space and captured this their their generation,

476
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Speaker 4: uh you know, through through through streaming.

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Speaker 1: Is that where all this all of this is headed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that you have to kind of be

479
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Speaker 6: there now. Like with Breakfast Club, we split up. We

480
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Speaker 6: distribute Breakfast Club on like five or six different platforms,

481
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Speaker 6: and we've been doing that forever. Now it's like, of

482
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Speaker 6: course you get us on the radio, So on terrestrial radio,

483
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Speaker 6: we get between six to eight million monthly listeners, and

484
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Speaker 6: then we put it out as a daily podcast or

485
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Speaker 6: the daily podcast that's like fifteen to twenty million downloads

486
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Speaker 6: a month, and then we put it out on YouTube,

487
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Speaker 6: and we put it out on all the social media platforms.

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Speaker 6: Another thing that we just started doing, we've been going live,

489
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Speaker 6: so like as we're in the studio and you're listening

490
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Speaker 6: to us on the radio, we'll just go live on YouTube,

491
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Speaker 6: live on Facebook, live on Instagram, all at the same time,

492
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Speaker 6: and there's tens of thousands of people watching us, you know,

493
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Speaker 6: over there now too. Because you know, you can't just

494
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Speaker 6: build it. Back in the day they say, yo, if

495
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Speaker 6: you build it, they will come. Now you got to

496
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Speaker 6: build it and meet people where they are. Or it's like, yo,

497
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Speaker 6: if you know that there's this audience online that's looking

498
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Speaker 6: for this type of content, you know you got to

499
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Speaker 6: give it to them in real time.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the future, the future is now.

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Speaker 6: As far as that, I think in a minute, you're

502
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Speaker 6: gonna you're gonna start seeing like live podcasts, like you

503
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Speaker 6: know'll y'all might all the smoke might say, look, this Tuesday,

504
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Speaker 6: we're gonna go live and just do our showed via

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Speaker 6: the Scream and didn't take that same audio and put

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Speaker 6: it out on the RS Street is a podcast later.

507
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's just that's just what you got to

508
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Speaker 6: do nowadays. You got to meet people where they are.

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Speaker 4: I'm over here taking those as you're talking your ship.

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Speaker 4: So we're definitely doing everything you just said. Man, hey,

511
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Speaker 4: real quick before we get you out of you. We

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Speaker 4: appreciate your time. Big article just dropped in the New

513
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Speaker 4: York Times with you and you, you know, saying you're

514
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Speaker 4: not picking a side in this year's election.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, You've been very outspoken and have a very

517
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Speaker 4: powerful voice, not only in our community but overall. I've

518
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Speaker 4: definitely utilized my voice and platform for this last run.

519
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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on just what we're headed towards

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Speaker 4: this November come election time? And where do you kind

521
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Speaker 4: of stand with it? Understanding that you are someone that

522
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Speaker 4: people look too for information.

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Speaker 5: And second part of that question, I'm receiving I was

524
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Speaker 5: supposed to receive the lifetime achievment with the ward this week?

525
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Speaker 5: Should I receive it lifetime achieving the warf move from

526
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Speaker 5: the president.

527
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Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, you deserve it.

528
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Speaker 1: You earned that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been hearing ext emotion from a lot of

530
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Speaker 5: people I respect.

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Speaker 2: Nah, you deserve that.

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Speaker 6: You earn that, Like you should absolutely go go collect that.

533
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Speaker 6: And you know, if you get the opportunity while you're there,

534
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Speaker 6: you know, to speak. Just always speak truth to power

535
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Speaker 6: the way you always do, you know. I think as

536
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Speaker 6: far as the election, man, I'm just I just feel

537
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Speaker 6: like as a black person, as a brown person, you

538
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Speaker 6: shouldn't be beholden to any political party. Like, you know,

539
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Speaker 6: I don't know why we have this idle worship over Democrats.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why black and brown people have this

541
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Speaker 6: idle worship over Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Like, at the end of the day, we should just

543
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Speaker 2: be voting our interests.

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Speaker 6: And you know, when you look around and you know,

545
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Speaker 6: you see the condition that you know.

546
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Speaker 2: Our communities are in, you just got to ask yourself.

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Speaker 6: All these people doing everything that you know they possibly

548
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Speaker 6: can be, you know, for us, And I get on

549
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Speaker 6: these platforms and I say the same thing, I'm voting

550
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Speaker 6: my interest this year. My interest this year is to

551
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Speaker 6: simply protect democracy, you know. And then when I look

552
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Speaker 6: at somebody like you know, former President Trump, like he's

553
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Speaker 6: just a person who doesn't give a damn about democracy

554
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Speaker 6: in any way shit perform like you know, he he

555
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Speaker 6: literally said, you know, let's suspend the constitution to overthrow

556
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Speaker 6: the results of an election. It's crazy to me that

557
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Speaker 6: all of these so called patriots will get mad because

558
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Speaker 6: the Colin Kaepernick will take a knee, all these other

559
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Speaker 6: athletes will take knees. They'll get they'll get mad and

560
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Speaker 6: call those folks unpatriotic. But a person who says let's

561
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Speaker 6: suspend the constitution to overthrow the results of an election,

562
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Speaker 6: the election was supposed to be the cornerstone of democracy.

563
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Speaker 6: Voting the cornerstone of democracy. You want to suspend the

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Speaker 6: constitution the overthrow the results of that. I don't see

565
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Speaker 6: how anybody could want somebody like that, uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: being the leader of the free world. And then you know,

567
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Speaker 6: you can't even we can't even begin to talk enough

568
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Speaker 6: about the attempted coop of this country that happened on January.

569
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Speaker 6: So I don't like President Biden either, you know, I

570
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Speaker 6: think President Biden is complete trash, you know, but I

571
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Speaker 6: know that he's better than the alternatives, you know. And

572
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Speaker 6: then then then there's third party candidates out there too.

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Speaker 6: You got doctor Cornell West out there, you got you know,

574
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Speaker 6: RFK Junior, Marianne Williams, and folks always say those individuals

575
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Speaker 6: don't have a chance.

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Speaker 2: Well that's why they don't have a chance.

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Speaker 6: They don't have a chance because they conditioned us to

578
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Speaker 6: make us believe that, you know, none of those people

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Speaker 6: are viable options. So I'm never gonna tell nobody to

580
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Speaker 6: stay home and vote in November. But I'm also going

581
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Speaker 6: to tell you that as a black person man, you

582
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Speaker 6: do not have to be beholden to any of these parties,

583
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Speaker 6: you know, and when you do put these people in office,

584
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Speaker 6: you got to stay on they ass to make sure

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Speaker 6: they're showing up for us.

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Speaker 4: I started with local, local, community, state, where you see

587
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Speaker 4: the turnaround, you know, and eventually work your appetite up

588
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Speaker 4: to you know, higher things. But you know, people want

589
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Speaker 4: to see results, and they want to see them fast,

590
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Speaker 4: and you see them the fastest if you get out

591
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Speaker 4: there and vote in your communities, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So that's where a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of to start my appetite in this space, because this

594
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Speaker 4: is a space we are never intended to have a

595
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Speaker 4: footprint or voice. And and now when we come together.

596
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Speaker 4: It's up to us what we want to do if

597
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Speaker 4: we come together, you know what I mean. So obviously

598
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Speaker 4: to educate yourself and understand that there's faults on both

599
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Speaker 4: sides and who serves you know, the best purpose for

600
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Speaker 4: not only us, but for our children and our children's

601
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Speaker 4: children coming down the pipeline.

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Speaker 1: So it's a whole lot of lot of shit going on.

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Speaker 6: It's just a business decision at the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: That's really what it is like. You know, they try

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Speaker 6: to make it seem like, you know, especially when you

606
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Speaker 6: I see I'm not even gonna say just liberals because

607
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 6: everybody does it. It's like, yo, you want to I

608
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Speaker 6: don't want to fall in love with any of these candidates.

609
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Speaker 6: Like I'm literally voting because you know, there's there's certain

610
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Speaker 6: interests I have.

611
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Speaker 2: There's certain issues that I want to see addressed.

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Speaker 6: You know, there might be certain policies that they lay

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Speaker 6: on the table that I'll be like, Yo, that would

614
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Speaker 6: be really dope if implement it.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm voting for. I'm not voting for no individuals.

616
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Speaker 2: I'm voting for issues.

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Speaker 4: For Charlotte Man, we appreciate your time. You can check

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Speaker 4: out the new book, give it to them and where

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Speaker 4: they can find it at.

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Speaker 2: Get Honest a guideline while small talk sucks.

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Speaker 6: It's available everywhere you get books now, man, And that

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Speaker 6: All the Smoke Coffee Table Book drops October eighth.

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Speaker 2: You can pre order that right now wherever you pre

624
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Speaker 2: order books.

625
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Speaker 1: Man, that sweater fly to my brother. I like that.

626
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Speaker 1: Sweat them.

627
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Speaker 2: I took it back the next he kept the.

628
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Speaker 1: Tag on that motherfucker.

629
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Speaker 2: We kept the tag right in there. You're back the

630
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Speaker 2: next day.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, Charlotte Man.

632
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Speaker 4: Man, we appreciate you, bro, We appreciate your love and

633
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: always looking out for us, and we hope we're doing

634
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: our part to help your ecosystem grow, because you're definitely

635
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Speaker 4: doing your part to help ourts girl, bro.

636
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Speaker 6: Definitely, man Like, I love everything that y'all doing, man,

637
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 6: especially what y'all doing with the other platforms, the kg's

638
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Speaker 6: and Paul Pisces and all of that. Like what y'all

639
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 6: building out with all the smokers incredible. And I hope

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Speaker 6: people paying attention. But by the time they pay attention,

641
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 6: it'll be too late.

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Speaker 1: Too late. You're not even tripping.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be too It got so much shit cooking.

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Speaker 4: But again, charlat Mane, Bro, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 4: We'll catch up with you soon. Bro, sir peace. Our

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Speaker 4: next guest, my uc afe brother, my dog. Welcome to

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Speaker 4: the to the show and the family. Our brother, Trevor, Reza,

648
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Speaker 4: Trevor whatever.

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Speaker 1: Bro, my dogs? What's up with it? How y'all doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: I'm found. It's real. It looks real any where you're at, Man,

651
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Speaker 1: where you at right now, where you hiding.

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Speaker 7: Out at, Bro, sunny is tropical. I'm in turch right now.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, enjoying this beautiful weather over here.

654
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. Let's get to it.

655
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 4: Taj was just in uh In in Indy. I saw

656
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: their team out there. You said they took a few

657
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: lumps out there. But what is the experience with Taj

658
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: been like a top ten player in his class in

659
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 4: the country, just got an offer from our alma mater

660
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: u c LA as a dad and as someone who's

661
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: trying to, you know, give him the game and show

662
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: him the ropes.

663
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: What has that experience been like with your son who's

664
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: sixteen right, Yeah, he's sixteen.

665
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 7: He just turned sixteen in March, so he's in his

666
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 7: right gradies.

667
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad.

668
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: That's because not everybody can say that, Like the twins

669
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: are fifteen as freshman and there'll be sixteen as a sophomore.

670
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: I say, you're supposed to be not supposed to be

671
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: seventeen as a freshman.

672
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, But for him and for me and our relationship,

673
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 7: you know, it's taught me a lot. I learned a lot,

674
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 7: especially about being somebody that played in the NBA, him

675
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 7: wanting to you know, that being his dream, but me

676
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 7: being dad at the same time, there's a little bit

677
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 7: of areas that you got to work through in those

678
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 7: situations because me as a player, I wanted to be

679
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 7: perfect at everything I do, because you know, as far

680
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 7: as like work, I was willing to put into work talented.

681
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 7: I may not have been as talented as the best

682
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 7: players or whatever, but I felt like, you know, there

683
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 7: was opportunities where I could have been. But for me

684
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 7: and his relationship, I want to push him to be

685
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 7: the best that he could be at all given times.

686
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 7: Like I always want him to go one hundred percent.

687
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 7: I always want him to stay confident. But the father

688
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 7: part of me wants him to be like a gentleman,

689
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 7: you know, wants him to be able to be able to, like,

690
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 7: you know, take care of everything for himself, guide himself

691
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 7: and learn things you know, as man too. So having

692
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 7: that balance and figuring out how to do that has

693
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 7: been a little bit of a challenge. But you know,

694
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 7: like we're going through life, we learned things together. So

695
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 7: I'm excited about it and it's been, you know, an

696
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 7: exciting time.

697
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it too.

698
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 7: And he just transferred to your alma mana right, Yeah,

699
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 7: he just went to Westchester, Yes sir, yes, sir. Well,

700
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 7: best of luck with that. So Trev always someone been

701
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 7: my homie for a while. A man a few words,

702
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

703
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: Unless you're really around Trev and Trevor fuck with you,

704
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 4: you know, go here Trev's voice, Trevor is really you

705
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 4: won't know.

706
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: He burned out, Yeah, but always always, always very well,

707
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: always very well spoken.

708
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: And I'm really glad he hit me up a while

709
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: ago and kind of wanted to start dabbling in this

710
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: media space. And I was really excited because I feel like,

711
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 4: you know, shit, eighteen years night, how many years you

712
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 4: play in League twenty eighteen? Yeah, eighteen years and knows

713
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: the game, you know, as you just mentioned, not the superstar,

714
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: but had the attributes of stars for sure. So what

715
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: is your goal in this media space as we kind

716
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 4: of try to help you figure out what is next

717
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: for you in this man To be honest with you, read,

718
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm a chameleon. I could do pretty

719
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: much everything. I've always felt that way about everything. It's

720
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: just being in the space or seeing what I like

721
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: that really to me, it doesn't matter. I just want

722
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: to figure out how I can give back or help

723
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: in like a team center situation. Like I've always been

724
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: really good in that space. So figuring out my lane

725
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: and right here with people that I trust, the people

726
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: that I fuck with, you know, it definitely brings more

727
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: of my personality out.

728
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: I love all the work that Mad and everybody doing

729
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 5: it on our team, bro, because it showed it shows us.

730
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: For so long they put us in the box. You

731
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: just played basketball.

732
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: You can all you can do is play basketball, and

733
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 5: then you gotta retired, You can't coach, you gotta do

734
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 5: something else like it. For so long, that was that

735
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 5: was the way they put basketball players. But nowadays we

736
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 5: can do whatever we want. See what I'm talking about

737
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 5: in any space we want. It's just whatever like you said,

738
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 5: whatever you feel like, you're comfortable and you can be

739
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 5: your best at We can do.

740
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: That ship for sure.

741
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: Trail one thing we're gonna need you to work on

742
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: since you're coming over to this side, has helped Jack

743
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: grow his his ship.

744
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: Ain't got no hangtime in the back. I got, I got,

745
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: I got, I got a little bit. Now, hold on, man,

746
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: don't do that like that, Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack, I

747
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. My

748
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: ship growing now, Jack, that'ship. That that'sip that ships been

749
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: that long for eight months right there. But it didn't

750
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: start like that in your head. Bro.

751
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 7: You got only only let people in your hair that's

752
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 7: close to your brain.

753
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: That got love for you, bro, that's it. Yeah.

754
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty good with that. I got I got

755
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: one chick here that breaks my hair all the time.

756
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, Well that's where you're still. We're gonna

757
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: figure it out, Jack. I want to say the whole

758
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: ship like Trails, and we're gonna come back. We're gonna

759
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: come back to this ship.

760
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: My ship start going to I'm gonaet I'm gonna get

761
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 5: trap whole regiment, and I don't want to hear.

762
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: Ship from none of y'all. At one point he wanted

763
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: to do my ship. Now you want to do trail ship.

764
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: We go see what works. You gotta be a chance

765
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: to trail of them. One little bullshit.

766
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: I didn't even try your shit that you just talked

767
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: about it. I really didn't try it. I knew that

768
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: shit was gonna work.

769
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: All right, man, Well, a great weekend. The hoops, I mean,

770
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: the Eastern and Western Conference finals are set. Man Okac

771
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: falls to Luca and Kyrie. And one role player who's

772
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: really been making a name for himself in this playoffs,

773
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: PJ Washington, who averaged seventeen points and eight rebounds in

774
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: this series and shot forty seven percent from the three

775
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: point line.

776
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Let's backtrack a little bit and talk about this series.

777
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: I think one thing that I said coming into the

778
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: playoffs is it wasn't that I didn't believe in Oka,

779
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: see in Minnesota. I just had to see it because

780
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: we all know, as vets fourteen plus years each that

781
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: the light tra a lot brighter, that the attention to

782
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: detail each possession it means that much more. And okay,

783
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: see you know fell short, you know, tough foul call

784
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: at the end of the game by SGA, which was

785
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: obviously a foul, but they fell short. Let's talk a

786
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: little bit about the series first, and you know, Jack,

787
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: I'll start with you.

788
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: I just look at the defensive side. Both teams were scoring,

789
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

790
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 5: I was look at the teams who made the plays

791
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 5: down the stretch, you know what I'm saying, and made

792
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 5: the hustle plays. And and for me, Dallas what did

793
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 5: the best was the best at scrambling. Both teams was

794
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 5: able to for their stars, was able to get easy

795
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 5: shots and get to the basket and make plays for

796
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: other people. But they did better scrambling out contesting shots

797
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 5: and doing.

798
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. The end, Yeah, the file, that was

799
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: a that was an uncostly filed. You know, I hate that.

800
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: Well, you see, I had to go out like that.

801
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 5: But for the most point, I think Thatas was the

802
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: better defensive team. They scrambled better, and then you know,

803
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 5: I think they fought more to win the game.

804
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 7: I think when you get into the playoffs and you know,

805
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 7: and you got to figure out ways to win games.

806
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: Defenses where it's going to bring it out of you

807
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: all the time. So whoever has the most stretch.

808
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 7: Uh, the longest stretch of better defensive play is going

809
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 7: to win the series. Now, history has shown us, like

810
00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 7: you said, as veterans that younger teams usually the haven't

811
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 7: had enough experience to figure out how to like muster

812
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 7: rug wins or grind wins out and kind of, you know,

813
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 7: in a situation that we've just seen with that that

814
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 7: series right there, that kind of played into into you know,

815
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 7: history right there. So yeah, closing now games, exactly figuring

816
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 7: out how to close our games as a young team

817
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 7: is a hard thing to doing the playoffs.

818
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Jack, I want to say it was you.

819
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: You had Dallas is one of your dark horses, didn't

820
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: you kind of coming towards the end of the season.

821
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, Yeah, I remember you said that.

822
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 4: I mean, we know, you know obviously your relationship with Kyrie,

823
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: but you kind of felt that they were coming together

824
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: at the right time and obviously one of the top

825
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: Dubos in the game, and you know, they both had

826
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 4: their moments in this past series.

827
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 5: And no hate, no hate, because you know, every time

828
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 5: we talk about basketball thing, it's hate. But they said

829
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 5: they killed some of Tim hardaway minutes. He's not He's

830
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 5: not the best defenders. You know, he don't even try

831
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: sometimes on defensive and having PJ. Washington, that shit was.

832
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

833
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: I mean they revamped their team. I think they went

834
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 4: out and got the Lively and the other big kid,

835
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 4: you know, Josh Green.

836
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Uh, you know. PJ.

837
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: Washington was a late addition which was ended up being

838
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 4: huge for them. So for for them, everything kind of

839
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: came this season, you know what I mean. Obviously, the

840
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: core pieces were Kyrie and Luca, and the whole question

841
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: coming into this season was that can they coexist? And

842
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: I think they've done that and I think that we've

843
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: seen this is the freest we've seen Kyrie play basketball

844
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: in a long time. He's at peace on and off

845
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: the court, and we know what kind of duty is

846
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: on the court when he's at peace. So I think

847
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: it's been a beautiful thing. And these motherfuckers got hot

848
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 4: at the right time. Switching conferences, the Knicks crumble down

849
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: the stretch. Injuries played a huge part in that, but

850
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: I also think the PACER's pace and and and and

851
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 4: their others and Shack likes to call their role players

852
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: played really well this series. We'll get into that, but

853
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: thoughts on the Knicks trev as they kind of stand

854
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: right now. We've talked on the show in the past

855
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: about I mean to have four or five or six

856
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: key guys. I think obviously random went out before the playoffs,

857
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: but I think they lost four or five guys during

858
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: the playoffs. And we all know how big Tibbs is

859
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: on minutes, although Bruns is a hand and you can't

860
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: really necessarily say that's wear and tear.

861
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: That's just kind of bad luck.

862
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 4: But I've always wondered, like the way he plays his

863
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 4: guys thirty nine forty plus minutes the entire season and

864
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: plays them more in the playoffs, does that, you.

865
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Know, affect their ability to go deep in the playoffs.

866
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 7: That's just the nature of the game. The more time

867
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 7: you're on the court, the more you have or you're

868
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 7: subjected to injury. And that's just the way it is.

869
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 7: And the way TIBs coach, he coaches hard as a

870
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 7: mother plager, so he gonna get everything he can up

871
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 7: out of you in and when you play this game,

872
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 7: you're gonna give something. And you know, you hope that

873
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 7: the injuries aren't severe or like career threatening, but in

874
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 7: this game we've all played, you're going to have injuries,

875
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 7: but the NIXT the way that they are honestly there,

876
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 7: there should only be one piece that I think that

877
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 7: they should move.

878
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: Everybody else.

879
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 7: That they have, especially the people that was hurt, I

880
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 7: think they fit into that style of play. They fit

881
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 7: into tid style, and to be honest with you, the

882
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 7: culture of New York. I feel like those players fit

883
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 7: into just the way that they play. But one thing,

884
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 7: one thing I would say though about like the NBA

885
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 7: as a whole, and like like the people behind or

886
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 7: outside of the court, the gms and the people that

887
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 7: put these teams that's here right now together. There are

888
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 7: mid season trades and the things that they've done to.

889
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: Have these teams where they are right now. They did

890
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: a really good job too.

891
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone kind of hear things that Randall may be

892
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: the guy that might be the odd guy looking in

893
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 4: this offseason because, like they said, the pieces they have

894
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: outside of him, from the Bogdanovic's and and the Ogs

895
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: and these other guys that got hurt but definitely fit

896
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: this system.

897
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: Well. So you see, are you someone of the degrees

898
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: that that that Randall may be on this way out one?

899
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: I definitely agree with that round the need to be

900
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 5: gone because look at the success we had him a

901
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 5: couple of things with the Knicks. I don't I don't

902
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 5: think he's that guy that that that batman to to Brunton,

903
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 5: I mean robbing the Brunson. I think I don't think

904
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 5: he's that guy. More like a guy like a PG

905
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 5: guy that can create rand super h hold on, don't

906
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 5: just fly by that. You said Paul George would be

907
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 5: a perfect fit you feel like in New York. Yeah,

908
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: because they need a wing that can get buckets and

909
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 5: that can get to it, that can guard of the wings.

910
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 5: They have all small, small guards. You know, Randa is

911
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 5: really one dimensional. If you stop him from going left,

912
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: he's gonna run over. Y'all turn it over. These are

913
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: just the fact y'all got to watch your own game.

914
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: We don't be hating on y'all. We be watching y'all

915
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 5: play well.

916
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 4: I definitely too want to want to touch on with

917
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 4: Indian accompass. Now what the Knicks, didn't you know shout

918
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: out most boys? I mean they may we talk about

919
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: gems making, you know, to be able to pick up

920
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 4: Pascal uh during the season. Tyres Halliburton's really first taste

921
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. I think their X factor through out

922
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: these first two rounds has been uh uh.

923
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: A little little little little like TJ. Welcome to hisself.

924
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 5: You and as basketball players, we used to hate little

925
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 5: guys like that team get into.

926
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: A spots picking up full court, you know, not conceding

927
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: the switch. He's fighting over screens and and just making

928
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: it made it tough. I mean, brunts is the motherfucker.

929
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: But TJ McConnell made him work, made him work hard,

930
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: so you know, uh it was it was some payback

931
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 4: for what what what's the boy's name that goes under

932
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: the legs on the fast break that was in New York?

933
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: Uh uh top of topping, topping, I can playing with

934
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 4: it edged you know, Miles Turner, you know, did his

935
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: part of the Niece Smith Nate Smith. Is that how

936
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: you say his last name but your name this morning?

937
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: But to your point, Jack Carl I did a great

938
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: job of I think wearing them out with their depth

939
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: and and and his ability to go into the bench

940
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: and and trust the bench and and get production from

941
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 4: the bench. So uh uphill battle obviously versus the Celtics,

942
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: but definitely want to give Indiana their their.

943
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: Their respect because although the were beat up. That was

944
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: a tough Knicks team. That was Boston had been playing

945
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: that well either though, So.

946
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: Jack, this is gonna be their first I feel like

947
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: this is gonna be their first real test. And that's

948
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: not you know, with all due respect to the teams

949
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 4: they played, you know, a Cleveland team, it wasn't that good.

950
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 4: And then who was the first team they played in

951
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: the in the first round. I'm burnt out. I've been

952
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: traveling so much. I forgot Miami. Miami. Yeah, I beat

953
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 4: up Miami team with no Jimmy Butler. So Boston is

954
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: definitely gonna get tested. You know, I see them coming

955
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 4: out of the Eastern Conference. But you know, Indiana is

956
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: definitely gonna have something to say. Uh Now, the team

957
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: that I think surprised the entire league and maybe not everybody.

958
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: You know, Trev, Trev, you called that surprised me. Three

959
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: months so you were on Shannon Sharp Show saying saying,

960
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: what tell us what you said?

961
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 7: I told the world, Well, I told Instagram or whoever

962
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 7: like Anthony Edwards was the nigga and nobody, you know,

963
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 7: everybody he's a good player or whatever. But I've just

964
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 7: seen it and just by how he moves. And it's

965
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 7: not even really like the just the game. It's how

966
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 7: he encourages his teammates. It's how he leads by example,

967
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 7: it's how he takes coaching, is how he does everything

968
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 7: that he does and still like is the player that

969
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 7: he is. That's just a test to like how hungry

970
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 7: he is and how much he wanted He not gonna

971
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 7: back down from shit. He wants the action, and like

972
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 7: when you looking at players that's like stars or superstars,

973
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 7: and you want like and like you know, like there's

974
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 7: gonna be a tough time that you're going to have

975
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 7: to go through in that stretch. Those are the things

976
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 7: that you look for in the player that you want

977
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 7: to ride with or you want to be in that

978
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 7: foxhold with. And he got all the attributes of it,

979
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 7: and he moved like and he moved like Mike. So

980
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 7: it's not too many months like that, like you see

981
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 7: that straight away. Yeah, before we get to you, I

982
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 7: just again to peeedback off what TA said. I want

983
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 7: to give Minnesota's front office some credit because you got

984
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 7: to think they took a lot of heat when they

985
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 7: traded all that year for Rudy Gobert, all that traded

986
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 7: all them picks and players, and they took a lot

987
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 7: of heat, but they stood the test with Gobert and

988
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 7: congratulates to him. He wins his fourth Defensive Player of

989
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 7: the Year, putting him in rare air six Man of

990
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 7: the Year nas reed someone I was really high and

991
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 7: I think it was one of the top free agents

992
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 7: last year that no one was really talking about. And

993
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 7: he ended up going back to Minnesota and he was

994
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 7: a big, big game changer in Game seven, Cat getting

995
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 7: healthy and finally buying him because as we've all recalled,

996
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 7: there was a while where Cat was kind of reluctant

997
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 7: to hand this team off to end. Remember he was

998
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 7: low key hating on I'm talking about what he eats

999
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 7: and did all that bullshit that didn't really matter.

1000
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: But I think they've kind of built their relationship on

1001
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 4: and off the court, which you know, kind of allows

1002
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: Kat to play that second role in Cat. I'm gona

1003
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: fuck with you. Cat could play basketball, bro, say what

1004
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: you one about the man? Cat could play basketball. And

1005
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: then you got one of the most underrated players in

1006
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: the game, one of my old point guards, Mike Conley,

1007
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: who just goes below you know, does whatever it takes.

1008
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: And you know, keeps this team together. They got the

1009
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: young boy on the on the wing who's a monster

1010
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: on the defensive end. Help me with his name. McDaniels

1011
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: should be First Team All Defense. So really, again, hats

1012
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: off to the Minnesota front office for building this team.

1013
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 4: And as we said earlier, it wasn't that with me personally,

1014
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: It wasn't that I didn't believe in the young teams.

1015
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: I had to see it, and I think what Minnesota

1016
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 4: showed us, not only throughout the series coming to get

1017
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: the first two games and you know, kind of celebrating

1018
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: and taking their foot off the gas, getting their ass

1019
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: kicked in their home, but then being able to bounce back,

1020
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 4: you know, being a young team, being able to take

1021
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 4: a punch and be able to counter punch back and

1022
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: come back in and down twenty on the defending champs

1023
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 4: floor in Game seven and you guys make that run. Jack,

1024
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: what do you think about Minnesota as we stand right

1025
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: now with them heading into the Western Conference Finals.

1026
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 5: Well, then again, you know, it's a lot of a

1027
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: lot of things are just common sense. It's number one

1028
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 5: defensive league. Talk to them, you know what I'm saying,

1029
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: to come to come back from down twenty. They got

1030
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 5: it in them. They've been doing it all year long.

1031
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 5: And one thing about it, the one thing about it

1032
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 5: that you can tell by this team, they try rust

1033
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: each other on defense. When somebody doubling, you don't even

1034
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 5: have to say nothing. They got the old term you

1035
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: got to be on the string, because that has to

1036
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 5: be on the string, you know.

1037
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

1038
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 5: And they trust each other, bro, and it shows, and

1039
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 5: like I said on my Instagram, it's just so refreshed.

1040
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 5: You know, you got to give the whole team props,

1041
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 5: and you gotta give the mcdams and the rest of

1042
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: these guys because when those guys come off the bench,

1043
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 5: they come with that same energy on defense. But to

1044
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 5: have your best player every night challenging the best player

1045
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: on their team and being able to you know, we

1046
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 5: guys that played on both fans, didn't We didn't just

1047
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 5: play on one of the court. It's just refreshing to

1048
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 5: see a guy like Anthony Edwards, you know what I'm saying,

1049
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 5: come out there being that people saying he de facing

1050
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 5: the league or being the best player right now, he's

1051
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 5: definitely the best offensive play on their team, but he's

1052
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 5: becoming the best defender as well.

1053
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: So I just and and that transfers to the team.

1054
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 5: You look at nas Reed naz REI stepped up and

1055
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 5: took the challenge to go out yo, because then when

1056
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: they made the comeback, you know what I'm saying, and

1057
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: all those big tip ends he got in. So that's

1058
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 5: another young person that come up, just like Anthony had

1059
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 5: the same fine him. So you know what I'm saying,

1060
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 5: it gets contagious to the team, dog and I just

1061
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: love to see it because we guys that took pride

1062
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 5: in that, and it's showing people wondering how they win

1063
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 5: and how they come back with twin. It's effort, it's

1064
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: being on the same page as caring about stopping. It's trying,

1065
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Some people don't even try it, Dogg,

1066
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: and I love to see that. Both of these teams

1067
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: at Dallas and Minnesota are showing that you got to

1068
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 5: be scrappy, especially this time of year, to try to

1069
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 5: win these big games.

1070
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 4: Crav what it is your thought on the league is

1071
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: such a copycat league. When Golden State had their run,

1072
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: everyone built their teams and you were on a Houston

1073
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 4: team that was right there on beating them a couple

1074
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: of injuries away. Everyone built their teams to beat Golden State.

1075
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: Golden State has gotten older and their window has shut.

1076
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: Denver stepped on the scene, and teams kind of started

1077
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: resorting back to and let's look at Minnesota. Three service

1078
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 4: of Bill Biggs, since the player of the year, and

1079
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 4: then two other motherfuckers that could play defense on Jokich.

1080
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: And as Jack said, that GM built the Nuggets, so

1081
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: they built this team to beat the Nuggets.

1082
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: And this is a newer, upgraded version.

1083
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: And we haven't talked about it in a while, but Jack,

1084
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: we spoke on this a while ago about the key

1085
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 4: role players that Denver had lost last year and Jeff

1086
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: Green and Bruce Brown and those guys. Minnesota has a

1087
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: lot of great role players, a lot of great young players,

1088
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: but were built to beat Denver and beat Denver, you

1089
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So we're looking at now to

1090
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: see I mean, obviously, this matchup in the Western Finals

1091
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 4: is going to be huge. You know, two young budding stars,

1092
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 4: you know, arguably two of them, you know, not arguably

1093
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: two of the faces of the league that you know

1094
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: once Bron and KD and Steph ad Dunne. These two guys,

1095
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: big faces are going to be in the front of

1096
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: the NBA. I mean, and you look at what and

1097
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 4: is twenty two and a half, Lucas twenty five. These

1098
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 4: guys are gonna be here for a while. So let's

1099
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 4: look at this next one cool thing, you know, treving Matt.

1100
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 5: Think about this though, If they got Jeff Green, they

1101
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 5: go Jeff Green, Jokic, a G Carl Woll, Pope and Murray,

1102
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 5: they bigger. Yeah, they can rebound better. They got our

1103
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 5: rebound And I'm just saying like, that's why they missed.

1104
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: Those type of guys. Yeah, they missed those type of guys.

1105
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: That's how he was able to beat the Lakers so easy,

1106
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: they were so versatile.

1107
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: Was a Swiss Army knife. But also to someone I love,

1108
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: someone I love, Michael Porter Jr. Could get hottest with

1109
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: the hottest. If he's not all well he's not. He

1110
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing, he ain't doing nothing giving myself out there,

1111
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 4: and yeah he had his moments out there. But again, yeah,

1112
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: I definitely think they missed the role players. But you know,

1113
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: we got to think back to the first time to

1114
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: see two young superstars twenty five and under, you know,

1115
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 4: meet off in the in the in the conference finals,

1116
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 4: you look back at one with you know, Iverson and

1117
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 4: Ray Allen.

1118
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: You take it further back, Bird versus Moses Malone and

1119
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: eighty one.

1120
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: You know, Buck's sons, young Jiannis, young Booker in the finals,

1121
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: Magic and Bird. But again, I really think you know,

1122
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: we've seen the torch past this summer, phoenix is up

1123
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 4: in the air. We don't know if KD will get

1124
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 4: another ring. We don't know if Bron will get another ring,

1125
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: and we don't know Stephan will get another ring. But

1126
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: we do know that either Tatum u yok It or

1127
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: excuse me, Tatum, Luca, uh ant man or or or

1128
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: uh Alberton, j Haliburton Haliburton. No, I'm just talking about

1129
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 4: who's left these new young team superstars is gonna get

1130
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: their first ring. And I think it's kind of the

1131
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 4: beginning of this new era of basketball. So definitely looking

1132
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: forward to this.

1133
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: This is Tatum time, This is Tatum chance. If you

1134
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 5: don't get if you don't get it now, they're not

1135
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 5: gonna get it.

1136
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: This is his time to really Tatum's twenty six.

1137
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 4: I mean, you think you know four superstars under twenty

1138
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: six with Tatum being twenty six, Luca being twenty five,

1139
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: and then uh you know the other two being in

1140
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: their early early twenties. So it's definitely gonna be a

1141
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 4: fun conference finals and uh ship, we're gonna see.

1142
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: Hey for real.

1143
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Though.

1144
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 7: The Minnesota team reminds me of the team that now

1145
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 7: I was on in La, the Lakers team that won

1146
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 7: just with the side, just just the pieces that they got,

1147
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 7: Like who's.

1148
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: On that team again? Find them?

1149
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 7: Mm hmmm, pale myself, odum Beanfish. You know, I we

1150
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 7: had a lot of players, Luke was on that team.

1151
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 7: We had a lot of like players that just knew

1152
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 7: how to play in their role and play in their

1153
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 7: position and give everything, and people that actually like playing

1154
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 7: together and trust trusted each other, you know what I mean.

1155
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 7: Like that's that was big because Jack was Yeah, Jack

1156
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 7: was talking about how Minnesota their best player is scoring

1157
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 7: all the points or scoring a lot of the points

1158
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 7: and going to sit down on their best player on

1159
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 7: the other team. That just gives your team, like more

1160
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 7: like that gives your team or the role players or

1161
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 7: the players that's playing the role more confidence just to

1162
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 7: go out there and kill just as hard as you are.

1163
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: So there's no excuse.

1164
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 7: So that's why I feel like the team that I

1165
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 7: like is that Minnesota team, because that's what it reminds

1166
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 7: me of.

1167
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 4: Who will be the biggest X factors in this Minnesota

1168
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 4: Dallas series? Will be PJ Washington, Tim Hardaway, and Lively?

1169
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: Or would it be nas Reed, Mike Conley and McDaniels Minnesota.

1170
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 5: I'm going I'm going nas Reed on Minison, I'm going

1171
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 5: NOAs Reed on Minnesota, and I'm going none of them

1172
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 5: on Dallas. Now, now, I got Kyrie gonna be Kyrie?

1173
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 5: Has he got he gotta go crazy every game he

1174
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 5: can't take too because Kyrie will take a game of

1175
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 5: two off.

1176
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1177
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 5: We were just going through the motions, passing the ball,

1178
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 5: making plays, being real passive, you know what I'm saying.

1179
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 5: But I guess in closing games. He undefeated in closing

1180
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 5: games because he turned up. He got to come in

1181
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 5: every game of the series with that attitude. So I

1182
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 5: got I got Kyrie for Dallas, and I got a

1183
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 5: Nasrie Minnesota.

1184
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: Trevor who what's some of these matchups?

1185
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 4: I mean, let's think about who's who do you see

1186
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: from Minnesota that's gonna take shots at at Luka and

1187
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: Kyrie on the defensive end.

1188
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 7: Man, I just feel like McDaniels should It would be

1189
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 7: he's going to be like the biggest distraction because he

1190
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 7: has the length, he has the toughness, the physicality, has

1191
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 7: everything that's needed to impose his will on the defensive

1192
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 7: end on those offensive players.

1193
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: He reminds me, and you I'm telling to give you

1194
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: right now.

1195
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 4: Mc McDaniels drives me of a young t A when

1196
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 4: t A was in l A and he was going

1197
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: in the motherfucking Orlando Magic's huddle during the game and

1198
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: cussing the players out and having them scared, Like that's

1199
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 4: what kind of time.

1200
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: What kind of time daniels be on too?

1201
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 7: And I see it, like, you know, I haven't been

1202
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 7: to any of their games this year, but I you know,

1203
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 7: I watch it on the TV and I kind of

1204
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 7: just see like like the things that he does and

1205
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 7: how he affects the game, and it's like it's more

1206
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 7: than what the stats sort of box square would show,

1207
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 7: and he can.

1208
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 1: Make he can make it difficult for look at too long.

1209
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 7: Will Yeah, yeah, yeah, Diddy mean, I definitely, yeah, I

1210
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 7: definitely see him having that type of effect. And is

1211
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 7: on the game for sure.

1212
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 4: We talk about Luca and that's a hell of a matchup.

1213
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 4: I think McDaniel's gonna get times on Kyrie. But Jack,

1214
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: who do you do you feel like there's anyone on

1215
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 4: Minnesota that could, you know, do anything with Kyrie?

1216
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 5: Man, it don't even matter. Anthon already called him out

1217
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 5: for the World head right right after the game. He said,

1218
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 5: and I'm going Kyrie on tn T and I'm going Kyrie.

1219
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 5: So's it's already understood. Mc McDaniel's is going Luca and

1220
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 5: say coming guard Kyrie.

1221
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. On the flip side,

1222
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: who's gonna try to guard man? Nobody? They don't have no.

1223
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 7: I don't think nobody got a chance in the hell

1224
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 7: over there in the guard here.

1225
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to gonna try.

1226
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: PJ h and Deck Jones gonna try. You know what

1227
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 5: I'm saying. They try to make it difficult, but I

1228
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 5: just don't see it. And then one thing about it.

1229
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 5: For some reason, this is an insider for people who's

1230
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 5: never played in the NBA. Some Marina's rems just feel Lord.

1231
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 5: They are the same hype, but some of them just

1232
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 5: feel Lord and man, you just jump high as hell

1233
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 5: on the rims. Dallas is one of them arenas. So

1234
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 5: watch your head in Dallas. Yeah, watch your head t

1235
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 5: a hot take. Who will we see in the finals

1236
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 5: this year?

1237
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 7: Minnesota and fuck Minnesota, and I'm gonna go with I'm

1238
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 7: gonna go with I'm gonna go with Indy.

1239
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota, Indie Manus and we go.

1240
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: We're obviously you gonna be back, so we're gonna see

1241
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: what if we get there, and then we want your predation, Jack.

1242
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: Who do you have in the finals? Man?

1243
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 5: You know I love the ship out of Kyrie Man,

1244
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 5: so I ain't no way I'm going against them, but

1245
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 5: I'm going against him this time. Minnesota and Man and

1246
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 5: a Man and new Boy is the only one right now.

1247
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 5: Dad is playing well too. You know what I'm saying.

1248
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 5: I gotta pick one. So I'm going Minnesota and I'm

1249
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 5: going Boston.

1250
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: Man.

1251
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 5: I think I think I think this time off to

1252
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 5: sit back and reflect on how they played the first

1253
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 5: two rounds and get Porzinger's a little healthy. He's still

1254
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: gonna miss the first two games, but I think this

1255
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 5: time is health Boston. I think they gonna come my

1256
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 5: hungry and understand this is their window. You know what

1257
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 5: I'm saying, They got to take advantage of it. So

1258
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 5: I see Minnesota in Boston, I think the person don't.

1259
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 5: I don't say to lose, because obviously it's a win win.

1260
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 5: But Jason Taintum has been in the conference finals. I

1261
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 5: want to say five out of his six years in Boston,

1262
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, the four out of his five.

1263
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 5: This is a big run right here for Jason Tatum

1264
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 5: because he's getting looked over right now, and he shouldn't be,

1265
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 5: but he is. He's being looked over right now, and

1266
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 5: I know he knows that. I know he feels it.

1267
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: So this is gonna be a big opportunity again to

1268
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 4: you know, run through Miami in the first round, get

1269
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: Cleveland in the second round. I don't really feel like

1270
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 4: they've really been testing and and I really feel like

1271
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: Pacers are one of those teams playing their best basketball

1272
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 4: right now, and they're all playing really good basketball right now.

1273
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 4: Boston is gonna have to really be ready travel. I'm

1274
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: not even mad at that pick. I can't agree with you,

1275
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 4: but I'm not mad at it because they're playing really

1276
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 4: good and everyone's playing that type of basketball right now.

1277
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: But yeah, I got Boston coming out of the East

1278
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 4: and I got Minnesota. Unbelievable. I got Minnesota coming out

1279
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 4: the West. Man, So we'll definitely have to see. I

1280
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 4: can't wait, bag Like, stay right here.

1281
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm a whole home.

1282
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna leave you all to me.

1283
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: I gotta go and stay right here. I got you.

1284
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 4: This is the sixth consecutive season that the reigning champion

1285
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: has not been able to make it out of the

1286
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 4: second round. So it's been a while since we've had

1287
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: a back What was the last time we had a

1288
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 4: back to back? Was it the Golden State?

1289
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: Right, Golden State? Yep, Golden State, and then before that

1290
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: it was the Lakers. I'm not mistaken. So yeah, it's

1291
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: been a while, but it's it's you know, the landscape

1292
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: is different.

1293
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: You know, we went from big threes to big twos

1294
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 4: to now a little bit more more you know, bounce

1295
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 4: of the league, and you know there's less superstars on

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Speaker 4: one team and there's more kind of parody in the league.

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Speaker 4: So definitely looking forward to this next run. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's a copycat league. I think everyone

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Speaker 4: the past two years is trying to build a team

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Speaker 4: to beat Denver and Minnesota was able to do that.

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Speaker 4: So it's now Minnesota the staple of what this league

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Speaker 4: is going to turn into as far as going back

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Speaker 4: to some traditional bigs, but traditional bigs they can stretch.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not talking about obviously Gobert, but I'm

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Speaker 4: talking about nas Reed and Kat who can play inside out.

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Speaker 4: So it'll be definitely interesting to see. I'm really excited

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Speaker 4: about these conference finals and you're don't have to just

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Speaker 4: fire up and sit back and watch and see what

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Speaker 4: the fun happens.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, t A, thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: You guys can find t A.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be rocking with us through the rest of

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Speaker 4: the playoffs and we're gonna have something special for him

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Speaker 4: coming out next season.

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Speaker 1: We got but definitely welcome you to the All the

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Speaker 1: Smoke Production family.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the all us to come fuck with fuck

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Speaker 4: with us, and we're definitely looking forward to helping you

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Speaker 4: build out today.

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Speaker 1: The tropical podcast.

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Speaker 4: Trap stays on a different continent that fuckers just wrestling

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Speaker 4: wrestling wrestling with tigers in Africa like two weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Now he's in tersey Kko. That boy stay on the move.

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Speaker 4: So trev Man. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We will see you in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 1: Uh man. That's a wrap.

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Speaker 4: You can catch this episode of Unplugged and all the

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Speaker 4: Smoke productions YouTube and the Draft Kings Network