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Speaker 2: Season two, Week twelve. Shay, who works so hard to

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Speaker 2: out just before midnight Pacific. But my goodness, we've got

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Speaker 2: a week ten in college football we've got to get to.

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Speaker 2: I want to give my thoughts on the passing of

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Speaker 2: had with anybody had him here with him here at

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Speaker 2: the unlv OH. I don't know, a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: three or four years ago, when he was still you know,

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Speaker 2: wrapping up his broadcasting career. I've got some thoughts on

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Speaker 2: James Harden, we'll look ahead of the NFL, and of

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Speaker 2: course again we dive into a heavy, heavy week of

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Speaker 2: college football. We've even had the first pass of the

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Speaker 2: But it would be Unamerican if we don't lead with

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Speaker 2: the fall Classic Ladies and gentlemen. For the first time

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Speaker 2: in history, the Texas Rangers are World champions. Quite a

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Speaker 2: quite an accomplishment for an organization who was most notable

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Speaker 2: fifty years ago for giving eighteen year old David Clyde

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Speaker 2: save the franchise from bankruptcy. But they never lived down

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Speaker 2: that moment. Actually kind of a cautionary tale. But the

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Speaker 2: Texas Rangers World Series champions the first time in franchise history,

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Speaker 2: now that they completed one of the most impressive, I

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Speaker 2: think in surprising title runs in recent memory. Couple of thoughts,

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Speaker 2: a couple of takeaways. Bruce Bouchie is a magician. He's

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Speaker 2: a wonder was already a three time World Series champion

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Speaker 2: from his days as the Giants manager. He pushed the

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Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. Texas went thirteen and four in

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Speaker 2: Bruce Bochie is just one of six managers in Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball history to win four rings. Joe McCarthy and

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Speaker 2: Casey Stengel, we, of course, each have seven. I hope

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Speaker 2: second takeaway, Corey Seeger a wonder Kim So was Simeon.

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Speaker 2: Both signed with the Rangers before the twenty twenty two season,

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Speaker 2: and they took a lot of heat for flocking to

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Speaker 2: a team that had gone sixty to one h two

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Speaker 2: the year before. Two years later, Seeger's the World Series

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Speaker 2: MVP again. He did the same thing for the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty Dodgers, both champs. Seeger the second player at Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball history to win the World Series MVP with

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Speaker 2: but Corey Seger the only player to do it in

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Speaker 2: both leagues. Deal with the Dodgers in the National League,

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Speaker 2: Rangers in the American League, But I digress the fun

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Speaker 2: part of it all. Texas proves plenty of teams can

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Speaker 2: Eleven teams finished within five games of the ninety to

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Speaker 2: seventy two Rangers this year. In this team became the

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Speaker 2: ten years, with only Houston doubling up. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's bigger than Texas now there are I honestly believe

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Speaker 2: there are as many as twenty teams given the new

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Speaker 2: Baseball is a good product, and I think people realize that.

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Speaker 2: I know, the World Series did not have great ratings.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna say, the Braves they're already twenty

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things that the Texas Rangers

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Speaker 2: proved i'd be gradually say this, but you really can

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Speaker 2: buy a championship if you know what the hell you're doing.

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Speaker 2: The Rangers spared no expense as they wanted to pursue

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Speaker 2: this first ever World Series title, and their free spending

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Speaker 3: Texas spared no expense.

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Speaker 2: Previously just one of the six current Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: they bought the team. They spent, and they spent well,

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Speaker 2: rebuilding process. And that's typically, you know, what most Major

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Speaker 2: gonna do it this way. They spent seven hundred million

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden fourth and payroll they ranked fourth

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Speaker 2: So not only did they rank fourth, but the three

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Speaker 2: wasn't just that they spent money. That was, of course

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Speaker 2: were going to make a big statement. We're going to

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Speaker 2: led to, you know, the all time sought after, biggest

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Speaker 2: sixty three years, and the truth of the matter is, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: this was the least watched World Series ever. So the Rangers,

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Speaker 2: they'll have to just be satisfied with the glory of

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Speaker 2: winning the series in front of a smaller audio. Again,

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Speaker 2: I can't emphasize enough. The Rangers played eleven road games

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Speaker 2: this postseason, did not lose a single one. The best

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Speaker 2: part of that was the nineteen ninety six Yankees. They

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Speaker 2: have a plus forty two run deferential in eight games,

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Speaker 2: that's the highest run differential in a single postseason. The

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Speaker 2: we're going back a long way again. Tip of the

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Speaker 2: cap to Bruce Bochie and the Texas Rangers.

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Speaker 3: They they did it in find fettle and no one

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Speaker 3: Another season is in the books.

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Speaker 2: Whether he watched it or not, it was a glorious

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Speaker 2: Slash match coming up. I remember a legendary coach who

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Speaker 2: won a lot of games, three national championships. He did

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Speaker 2: he won twenty games twenty nine times.

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Speaker 3: But yes, I know.

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Speaker 2: He was certainly always besieged in damaged to various degrees

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Speaker 2: by so many incidents. A complex man, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: give him his due. I'm Bernie Frattle or Comedy Live

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Speaker 2: I said, there were all kinds of headlines this week,

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Speaker 2: not the least of which the legendary Bobby Knight, the

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Speaker 2: polarizing Bobby Knight, the complex Bobby Knight passed away at

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Speaker 3: And as you heard me say a minute.

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Speaker 2: Ago, you won't know Bobby Knight won the NCAA Championship

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six. Bobby Knight won twenty games in a

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Speaker 3: Just a second. And you may not know this though.

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Speaker 2: At Bobby Knight was also way ahead of his time

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Speaker 2: That's long gone by the wayside. But among the things

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Speaker 7: The latest All Right Bernie seven games slate in the NBA.

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Speaker 7: On Friday night, at the beginning of pool play for

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Speaker 7: the end season tournament, the Nightcaps, All the Blazers defeat

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Speaker 2: Back to Bernie Freddo, all right, thanks so much, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Let's walcome in a gentleman. You've heard him on the

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Speaker 3: NFL ref Stats, Joe, how are you, buddy doom? Oh Bernie,

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Speaker 3: how are you good?

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Speaker 2: And I kind of want to focus on two key

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Speaker 2: talk about the referee in charge and as some of

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Speaker 2: the angles you have found about this game, because they're important.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So the referee name is Trey Blake. Now it's

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Speaker 8: only his second season, so we're dealing with a small

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Speaker 8: sample size. He but the numbers are the numbers. It's

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Speaker 8: been very favorable, favorable for home teams in his career,

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Speaker 8: but in particular and divisional matchups like we have. He again,

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Speaker 8: small sample size, but these are the numbers. Home teams

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Speaker 8: are four and zero straight up and train when it

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Speaker 8: gets to spread when Trey Blake officiates these divisional games.

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Speaker 8: So that's straight off the top beneficial for the Eagles.

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Speaker 8: But then I dug into the penalty profile, and as

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Speaker 8: you just touched on, how it been a problem for

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Speaker 8: Dallas since McCarthy gout there, and this year is no

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Speaker 8: different than the number one penalized road team in the NFL,

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Speaker 8: averaging almost nine penalties of game. So it's the same

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Speaker 8: old story with Dallas, and I dug deeper into the penalties,

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Speaker 8: the number one for offside penalties, and people say, oh,

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Speaker 8: what's that matter? It's just you know, jumping off side.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 8: The Eagles are very adept at manipulating the opposing defenses,

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Speaker 8: the Eagles offenses at those short yardage situations and creating

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Speaker 8: those offside penalties. So you've got a Dallas team that's

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Speaker 8: I'm disciplined coming up against an Eagles team that is

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Speaker 8: very adept at drawing those offside penalties. So it's going

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Speaker 8: to happen in the game. There's going to be one

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Speaker 8: or two times in a key spot and boom, and

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Speaker 8: you'll see someone jump off side. Will be DeMarcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 8: it'll be Michael Cartons, whoever it may be, and it'll

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Speaker 8: be a big advantage for the Eagles whenever it does happen.

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Speaker 8: You know that that right there. You always say this,

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Speaker 8: games have won and lost in the trenches, and they

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Speaker 8: all this is where the Eagles have an advantage in

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Speaker 8: the trenches. That begin with in my opinion, but then

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Speaker 8: you look at the discipline angle of it. The Eagles

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Speaker 8: are very disciplined.

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Speaker 3: Up front on both sides of.

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Speaker 8: The ball, and Dallas isn't. And so you start weighing

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Speaker 8: it all up with the referee who stayed as the

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Speaker 8: home team. I like the Eagles on Sunday, I really do.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you, and you did mention that Trey

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Speaker 2: Blake has a relatively short sample size. But in that

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Speaker 2: sample size, the numbers and the numbers and home teams

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Speaker 2: that Trey Blake is officiated are undefeated, and the.

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Speaker 8: Undivisal games, indivisional games.

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Speaker 3: Divisional games. Okay.

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Speaker 2: The other thing too, is, in addition to all the

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Speaker 2: good data you give about offsides and the Eagles propensity

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Speaker 2: for drawing teams off sides, even irrespective of that, Dallas

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Speaker 2: is the number one penalized road team in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So if they end up with eighty yards and penalties,

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Speaker 2: that's like giving the Eagles eighty yards an offense exactly.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you let's just make a round number.

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Speaker 8: If each team, let's just say it has three hundred

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Speaker 8: yards of offense and Dallas gives an additional eighty, well

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Speaker 8: that's you know, twenty five percent of penalty in addition

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Speaker 8: to what they're making. So yeah, it adds up, it

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Speaker 8: really does. And you can't win long term. Ye, you

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Speaker 8: can win win games with that penalty counts, but long

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Speaker 8: term you can't win like that. And this has been

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Speaker 8: an issue with McCarthy since he got there, and I

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Speaker 8: just don't see it changing.

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Speaker 5: Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, And for the record, I've also bet

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Speaker 2: the Eagles another game and go ahead, Joel.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was gonna say strongle the numbers out to Reverence, Billy, Joel.

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Speaker 8: This is a matter of trust. And if you walk

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Speaker 8: up the window on Sunday, do you if you're going

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Speaker 8: to bet Dallas, do you really trust Dads and McCarthy

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Speaker 8: on the road, hostile environment? Do you really trust those two?

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Speaker 8: I don't because I haven't seen it yet.

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Speaker 2: Well, and believe it or not, I saw a stat

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Speaker 2: where Mike McCarthy coming off a twenty plus point in

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Speaker 2: victories like one in seven against this spread, stand straight

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Speaker 2: up following weeks.

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Speaker 3: They're coming off. They're coming yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: They're coming off a big blowout which we just talked

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Speaker 2: about all right, gender game, which obviously he has its

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Speaker 2: own storyline behind it because of DeMar Hamlin. Bill's at

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Speaker 2: the Bengals. Now, I like the Bengals in this game.

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Speaker 2: Talk about referee Alex Campany's proclivities here.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so Cam he's in sixty, so we've got a

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Speaker 8: pretty good sample thousand with him that ninety games. First thing,

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Speaker 8: he's a pretty good over referee for his career is

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Speaker 8: fifty six percent of the over. So that's something to

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Speaker 8: keep in mind heading into Sunday night. I like the

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Speaker 8: Bengals like you do. But part of the reason is

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Speaker 8: a they're getting hot at the right time. But you

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Speaker 8: look at the penalty compilation in this game, Cincinnati is

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Speaker 8: the least penalized team in the NFL. Okay, so just

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Speaker 8: remember that, and since Borrow got there, they've been consistently

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Speaker 8: one of the least penalized teams. Buffalo, Yeah, I kind

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Speaker 8: of mid tier so far this year, but you look

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Speaker 8: at some of the penalties, KEMP sistantly ranks in the

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Speaker 8: upper tier the defensive holding, defensive pass interference, and illegal contact. Okay,

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Speaker 8: the Bills right now as we head into week nine,

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Speaker 8: they lead the league in illegal contact penalties and they're

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Speaker 8: a top five team for defensive pass interference. So those

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Speaker 8: two things right there, you got a referee that enforces these.

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Speaker 8: You've got a team in Buffalo that has issues with

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Speaker 8: those penalties. The other part here, and this is really

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Speaker 8: interesting because you think of Cincinnati when they started the season,

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Speaker 8: Burrow was on one leg so the offense wasn't running

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Speaker 8: at full capacity. The Bengals offense is a top three

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Speaker 8: beneficiary of defensive pass and appearance penalties this season. Okay,

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Speaker 8: so you've got a great Cincinnati offense they can draw

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Speaker 8: these penalties, referee that likes the corps, and a team

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Speaker 8: that commits them at a higher than average rate in Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: I like Cincinnati a lot.

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Speaker 3: I really do well.

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Speaker 2: I like Cincinnati a lot as well, for a lot

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Speaker 2: of the reasons you just said. Their offense is very

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Speaker 2: much clicking, especially in the reds so and look what

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Speaker 2: they did against the forty nine ers a couple of things,

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Speaker 2: and you pointed this out, Bill's number one penalized team

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Speaker 2: for legal contact, which usually affects defensive backs. And it's

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Speaker 2: it's my understanding Joel that Buffalo's really banged up this week,

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Speaker 2: and especially in the secondary.

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Speaker 8: Well, yes, I mean that's a whole other, you know,

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Speaker 8: whole other angle that just sort of compounds the issues

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Speaker 8: that they struggle with. These They've got a lot of

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Speaker 8: good big guys out, you know, Trdavius White's don Matt

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Speaker 8: Milano's done. So, yeah, the defense is struggling as it is.

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Speaker 8: They've got injuries, even with those guys there though, committing

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Speaker 8: a lot of these penalties. So yeah, I mean, it's

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Speaker 8: just it doesn't look good for them. And again, they're

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Speaker 8: kind of like Dallas in some of these big games

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Speaker 8: that don't show up. I mean, that had that moment,

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Speaker 8: so they're not as bad. But this is just a spot.

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Speaker 8: Cincinnati is just so disciplined. I did a radio interview

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Speaker 8: with a Pittsburgh station yesterday and they're asking me who's

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Speaker 8: the most disciplined team in the NFC North And I said, that's,

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Speaker 8: without a doubt Cincinnati. They just have beat them. So

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Speaker 8: they just don't. I mean, since Borrow and Zach Taylor

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Speaker 8: have been there, this's consistently been at the bottom or

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Speaker 8: near the bottom as far as a penalized team. They

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Speaker 8: just don't beat themselves. Buffalo does. And you got a

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Speaker 8: referee that sort of enforces a lot of the penalties

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Speaker 8: that Buffalo commits. Yeah, Cincinnati on Sunday night, for sure.

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Speaker 2: And you combine that with the fact that not only

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Speaker 2: the Bills that ever won pittalized team for illegal contact. Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: as you point out, their offense, ranks top three in

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Speaker 2: generating defensive pass interference penalties.

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Speaker 3: On opposing defenses. I like Cincinnati a lot in this.

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Speaker 2: Game, and I love lou Ana Roumo in the defense

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Speaker 2: at Cincinnati's defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Joe.

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Speaker 2: Let's do one more quick bonus game, and I like

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Speaker 2: you to talk about Clay Martin as the Chiefs play

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins in Frankfurt, Germany. Hopefully Andy Reid has head

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Speaker 2: is brought by now that he said he was looking

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Speaker 2: forward to. But let me tell you why I bring

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Speaker 2: this game up, and you can talk about how the

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Speaker 2: refe may affect this. The Dolphins, I think are a

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Speaker 2: good team, but they're all in two versus above five

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Speaker 2: hundred teams this year, only scoring eighteen points per game. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: there's six to zero versus under five hundred teams averaging

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Speaker 2: thirty eight points per game. They teed up against the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs six thirty am kickoff here in the Pacific time

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Speaker 2: zone on Sunday morning, after daylight savings time terminates your

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Speaker 2: quick thoughts on Clay Martin and the Chiefs Dolphins matchup

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Speaker 2: in Frankfurt.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so a couple of things. This is the Bengal

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Speaker 8: I mean, so this is the Dolphins second game with

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Speaker 8: Martin this season. The first one was a seventeen to

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Speaker 8: twenty win at home versus Denver. However, the Chiefs have

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Speaker 8: a much bigger sample size. They've never lost mind Claymont

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Speaker 8: and officiates the game, although they're only like one and

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Speaker 8: four against the spread, but they were touchdown on a

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Speaker 8: bigger favorite in most of those games. This time they're

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Speaker 8: only laying what two and a half? Yeah, so the

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Speaker 8: Chiefs have never lost the Playmont and that's the first thing.

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Speaker 8: Another interesting point. I didn't put too much in this,

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Speaker 8: but he's actually six and on to the over this

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Speaker 8: season play Martin in games officiated, which when you consider

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Speaker 8: the amount of low scoring games to be six and

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Speaker 8: on to the over, I mean, that's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 8: I didn't like the over myself, but I'm just telling

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Speaker 8: you that's what the numbers are.

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Speaker 3: Joe. This is great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is always great research, and we started to get into

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Speaker 2: the thick of the season now, so we'll want to

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Speaker 2: get you back on in December as we hit into

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Speaker 2: the playoff run.

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Speaker 3: Great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Joe absolutely think that it's Joe Gibbs NFL ref Stats.

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Speaker 2: You can find him on Twitter at NFL ref Stats one.

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Speaker 2: He works for the Great Warren Sharp and we have

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Speaker 2: enough data now. I've had Joe on my show for

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Speaker 2: three years. He's accumulated enough data now. Where this is

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Speaker 2: not a passing fancy. There is a direct correlation between

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Speaker 2: certain referees, the totals over under home versus away, and

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Speaker 2: the propensity for certain referees to call certain penalties, whether

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Speaker 2: it be offensive holding, defensive pass interference, or off sides,

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Speaker 2: and certain teams who have an ability to sort of

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Speaker 2: force those types of penalties on their opponents come up.

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Speaker 2: engaged in season two of Bernie's Backyard bunkin Bets. Top

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Speaker 2: credit to Shaye Morgan Guard who's presided over the game,

652
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Speaker 2: coming up with the questions, getting out the standings, and

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Speaker 2: so we will now allow Shay to take the honors.

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Speaker 2: She announce who the winner was season two.

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Speaker 9: Take it away, hey, Bernie. So yeah, it was a

656
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Speaker 9: fun twelve weeks. It was a close race right at

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Speaker 9: the end. I'm gonna start with third place. So third

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Speaker 9: place we had Poppy from San Diego who was actually

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Speaker 9: the former champ in defending Champ Defending Champ and he

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Speaker 9: had it was a ten times caller and he had

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Speaker 9: eleven hundred points. And then in second place we had

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Speaker 9: Kurt from Kelly who was also a ten times caller

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Speaker 9: and he had thirteen hundred points. And then your winner

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Speaker 9: of season two is Dave from Phoenix who was also

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Speaker 9: a ten times caller. Congratulations Dave with fifteen hundred points.

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Speaker 9: He kind of took it away right at the end,

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Speaker 9: but it was a close match right until the end.

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Speaker 3: But okay, sorry, no go ahead, and you were talking Dave.

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Speaker 9: To claim your prize, give me a DM at FSR

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00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 9: Shay or you just called the station and I'll be

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Speaker 9: able to get all your info and be able to talk.

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Speaker 9: But again, to just claim your prize day from Phoenix,

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Speaker 9: give me a call at the station or just DM

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Speaker 9: me at FSR Shay on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Good job and of course thanks to Scott Shapiro, our leader,

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Speaker 2: for supporting our contests in the efforts. It was originally

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00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: created by Ethan Miller six seven months ago, and I

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00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: had no idea you would be the successful full linees

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00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: jammed out every week, people will got involved. Poppy tried

680
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Speaker 2: very hard to you know, repeat as champion, but hey,

681
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: there were some good quality people diving in there that

682
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Speaker 2: got the trivia questions in some of the bets as well,

683
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Speaker 2: and I appreciate participating in the trivia in bets as well.

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Speaker 2: Eighty final thought, Shay on the contest.

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Speaker 9: I had a lot of fun taking it over. Yeah,

686
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Speaker 9: we had to give a little shout out to Ethan

687
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 9: because I mean, yeah, I did the questions at the end,

688
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 9: but he's he's the true creator of Bernie's Backyard Bunk

689
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Speaker 9: and Bets, and just had to give him a little

690
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 9: shout out. I had a lot of fun doing this, Bernie.

691
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Speaker 9: I had fun bringing the.

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Speaker 2: I had fun because I got to jump in and

693
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Speaker 2: take part in trivia and take part in the best Bets.

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Speaker 9: Well, you were you were terrific actually, so you were

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Speaker 9: five or five on trivia last week, but overall you

696
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Speaker 9: were eighty six out of ninety four, which was ninety

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Speaker 9: one percent all time on trivia, and then you were

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Speaker 9: four for one on bets last week and ended up

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Speaker 9: going eighty for forty seven, which was fifty eight percent

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Speaker 9: on your bets, And I got to say that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I appreciate you guys taking the time to

702
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Speaker 2: do the records because I know a lot of folks

703
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Speaker 2: go on the air and claim they're doing well, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of you are keeping track,

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Speaker 2: but you kept track, and I appreciate you doing it

706
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: in great job on the game, of course, all right,

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Speaker 2: top of the are we dive heavily into college football,

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Speaker 2: but just some things.

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Speaker 3: Do what your whistle.

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: Rutgers seven to one against the spread following a bye week.

711
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Speaker 2: In the last nine years, they got Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Kansas State.

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Speaker 2: Eleven and four against the spread against top ten teams

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Speaker 2: in the last nine years, they got a Tulsa with

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Speaker 2: Texas on Sunday. Utah there's seven and one against the numbers,

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Speaker 2: a double digit favorite in the last three years. Penn

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Speaker 2: State six to zero against the spread as a road

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Speaker 2: favorite since it started the last season. They got Michigan

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Speaker 2: next week. Oregon. I think they're the best team in

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Speaker 2: the country in my opinion. They're four to zero against

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Speaker 2: the spread against teams with a losing record this season.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee seven to one against the spread against non conference opponents.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you like totals, Notre Dame. They've

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Speaker 2: gone over the total in five consecutive games in the

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Speaker 2: month of November, and we are in the month of

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Speaker 2: November coming up. We dive heavily into college football. Keep

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The future always has a way of arriving ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 2: We are headed into Week ten of college football. In

738
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Speaker 2: a minute, we'll get to the CFP playoff. Field's starting

739
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: to take shape. But as we do every week, we

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Speaker 2: touch it on the winners and losers from the week before.

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Speaker 2: And I was sorry to see Oklahoma go down. My

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Speaker 2: buddy Chris Plank. Looks like they're still not out of it, okay,

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Speaker 2: but their margin to victories on once you've got that loss,

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna have to play play probably play Texas

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Speaker 2: again somehow. Kansas where their backup quarterback Jason Bean beat

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Speaker 2: the Sooners thirty eight thirty three last week, So you look,

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Speaker 2: you got Texas, Kansas State, Iowa state. They're won of

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Speaker 2: four teams sitting at four to one in league play,

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Speaker 2: and the Jayhawks and the Sooners, well, the Jayhawks were winners,

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Speaker 2: the Sooners not so much. But I'll tell you who

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Speaker 2: was a winner of the Oregon Ducks. Teams don't do

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Speaker 2: to Utah what Oregon did to Utah last week. The

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Speaker 2: Ducks averaged almost six yards of carry Dane four hundred

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Speaker 2: yards of offense. They smash Utah in Utah. This doesn't

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00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: happen thirty five to six. That sense a major message.

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00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: This tells the nation something I already knew. Oregon is

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00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: an elite team that should not be counted out as

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Speaker 2: one of the top championship contenders, even though they lost

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Speaker 2: earlier in October to Washington. In Washington, Oregon is very

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Speaker 2: much for real, Bonix. He add up to his Highestman

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Speaker 2: Trophy argument twenty four thirty one for two fifty two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Oregon can play defense too. Don't

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Speaker 2: think they can't. They forced two turnovers and held Utah

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Speaker 2: to a little over two yards of carry. And I

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Speaker 2: will tell you this twenty nine point margin of defeating

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Speaker 2: Utah that just doesn't happen. Doesn't happen. At least it

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Speaker 2: hasn't happened in five years. Give it up to Utah, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I've always known Georgia. Well, it is better than they've shown, right,

769
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Speaker 2: and their first game without Titans brock Powers went pretty well.

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Speaker 2: I realized that Georgia, Florida, you know, the world's largest

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Speaker 2: cocktail party, has lost a little luster.

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Speaker 3: But it's still Florida.

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Speaker 2: And the truth of the matter is Florida had been

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Speaker 2: playing decent Undergroundmertz and uh, you know, but the Georgia's

775
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: new quarterback Carson Beck starting to come into his own.

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Speaker 2: He threw for three hundred and fifteen yards eleven yards

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Speaker 2: per attempt. They dominated. I know it's a neutral Syde game,

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Speaker 2: but Georgia dominated from the start. Before the seats were warm,

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Speaker 2: it was twenty six to seven. Georgia cruises to a

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Speaker 2: forty three to twenty win. And even without brock Bowers,

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Speaker 2: the passing game connected. They had at least three forty

782
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Speaker 2: yard plays And what did that do? That loosens up

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00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: their running game. It opens up running lanes for Jwan

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Speaker 2: Edwards and Kendel Milton. They combined for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty one yards on three touchdowns. Georgia can reap can threepeat,

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Speaker 2: make no mistake, and Georgia would beat Michigan. Sorry, Michigan,

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Speaker 2: they'll beat you. You'll see. Hopefully you two will get

788
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Speaker 2: on the field. Maybe it won't. I don't know, and

789
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Speaker 2: I don't know if Bowers is gonna come back. But

790
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: Georgia can win it without rock powers, believe me, air Force.

791
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: You gotta give him a lot of respect. They're undefeated.

792
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: They remained unbeaten to beat Colorado State thirty to thirteen.

793
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: They're a good defense, they're a run first offense. They're

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00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: not gonna compete for national championship. I get that, but

795
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Speaker 2: what a quality program. Give them their flowers. You know,

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Speaker 2: I have to really give a lot of respect to

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Speaker 2: to Mike Harmon's Northwestern Wildcats. They're making a remarkable push

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00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: towards bull eligibility after as bo as disruptive and offseason

799
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Speaker 2: that you can ever imagine that that included the dismissal

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Speaker 2: of their longtime coach Pat Fitzgerald. He was, you know,

801
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Speaker 2: their interim coach. Who's a defensive coordinator, this first year

802
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, David Brawn. Northwestern is four and four and

803
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: they upset Maryland last week, and you know, they put

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00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: up thirty three points Northwest. I know this sounds crazy,

805
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: but on paper and if you do the bath, they're

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Speaker 2: actually technically Northwestern is in the mix to win the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten West. Now they're gonna have to play Wisconsin

808
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: and Iowa. But even if they didn't win either of

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00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: those games, and even if they don't go to a

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Speaker 2: bowl game, and they still can't, Okay, they've got.

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Speaker 3: Four games left. They gotta win two of The.

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00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: Wildcats have well surpassed whatever dismal predictions people might have

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Speaker 2: had for them after what happened in that whole crazy

814
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: Pat Fitzgerald hezing debacle.

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Speaker 3: That game.

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Speaker 2: To light give it up to Northwestern top credit USC,

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Speaker 2: I'll give a slight thumbs up. About three weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: you might not have said, what's the big deal about

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Speaker 2: USC beating cal by one and allowing forty nine points. Look,

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Speaker 2: USC's season is it is for clempt Okay, they're not

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Speaker 2: gonna be a playoff team. They're probably not even gonna

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00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: be in the Pac twelve championship game. But at least

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00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: they're given an effort. Okay, and Kayleb Williams is given

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Speaker 2: an effort that. You know, this is coming off losses

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00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame in Utah, so the salvage that win

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Speaker 2: is meaningful because you've got Washington, Oregon, and UCLA on deck.

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Speaker 2: Washington here Saturday night as USC is a three point

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Speaker 2: hole underdog, a very interesting line. A game I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna touch, but I'm gonna have a hard time believing

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix doesn't go up and down the field against USC.

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Speaker 2: We shall see, but I'll give them credit for what

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00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: they did last week. Same with Nebraska after they top

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00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: of Purdue thirty one to fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: I gave it up to bat Rule last week, three

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Speaker 2: game winning streak for the first time in eight years,

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Speaker 2: four way tie atop the Big Ten West with Iowa, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: and Minnesota. Matt Rule statistically has coached this team into

839
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Speaker 2: one of the top five defensive units in the Big

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00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: Ten and one of the most improved defenses in the country.

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00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: So the Matt Rule formula is working out for the

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Speaker 2: corn Huskers. All right, win one more game, they'll be

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00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: in a ball game after a seven year absence. That

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00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: in and of itself is quite an accomplishment for a

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00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: once proud program.

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Speaker 3: The losers.

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00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: All right, well, Colorado, I gotta put you in this

848
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: gotta put you in this category even though you are

849
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: still you know, box office gold. Why well, because the

850
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: losing stretch continues. They started three to zero, but it

851
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: seems like distant memories. Now they're trying to scratch out

852
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: that sixth win in Deon Sanders' debut, but as expected,

853
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: Colorado couldn't get going against that UCLA defense. They did

854
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: cover the spread, though they backed order. They lose twenty

855
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: eight to sixteen. They have second loss in a row,

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00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: fourth and five games. And even though Shador Sanders was

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00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: once a Heisman candidate and not so much, he did

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00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: get two hundred dards, passing, had a meanly meaningless touchdown,

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00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: garbage time, sacks seven times again under constant duress, and

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00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: the Buffs, well they're also four and four. But on

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00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: deck Orgon State, Arizona, Arnie's Upstate Arizona Wildcats are pretty good,

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00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: Washington State in Utah. Would I be going down on

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00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: a stretch if I don't think Colorado wins any of

864
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: those games, No, prove me wrong, don't tell me, show me.

865
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: They get end up four and eight after starting three

866
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: and zero but they've been the story of the year,

867
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: so you can't really call them losers. But they're not

868
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: winners either. Clemson Dabbos Sweeney never met a microphone who

869
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: didn't like He's bitter, isn't he? The guy is he

870
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: does not deal with this well. Clemson is They've dropped

871
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: off the map.

872
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: Man.

873
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: It just like snap your fingers. Dabbles Swedey, just a

874
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: decade ago, turn this program into one of the best

875
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: in the FBS. Couple of National Championship appearances, National Championship,

876
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 2: you lose twenty four to seventeen to North Carolina State,

877
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: must be going around.

878
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: Clemson also four and four, owner of four losses before

879
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 3: November for the first time in thirteen years. Before Dabas

880
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: Swinney took over the program. Dablos Sweeney's also lost six

881
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: to the last nine against power five competition. It's not

882
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 3: a fluke, it's not an aberration. Clemson isn't that good.

883
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: They're just not.

884
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: They're befitting of their five hundred record and they don't

885
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: deserve the benefit of the doubt. What will Sweeney do?

886
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. People say he's not taking advantage of

887
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: the portal. Maybe he'll start now. I got a couple

888
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: players out of it. But he's just he seems like

889
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: a cranky old man. He's just listened to him. Look

890
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: at he's got that look on his face like it

891
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: just smelled a bad fart all the time. Of course,

892
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: I guess he was kind of doing that when he

893
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: was winning too. I think his legacy secure, but the

894
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: ship might have sealed.

895
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: Washington. I'm a little concerned about. Okay. I think they're

896
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: really good.

897
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: You know, Nolan Ryan once said the mark of a

898
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: great pitcher is when you win even though you don't

899
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: have your best s up. Washington clearly has not had

900
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: their best stuff for the last two games since they

901
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: beat Oregon in that epic game up up in Seattle.

902
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: But it's been about three weeks now, you know they

903
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: I thought they established himself as one of the best

904
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: teams in the FBS, but then they beat Arizona State

905
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: fifteen to seven last weekend or two weeks ago. Then

906
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 2: they struggled to beat a pesky all of a sudden,

907
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: This pesky Stanford team forty two thirty three, couple of

908
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: bottom teams in the Pac twelve. So what does this

909
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: really say about that Huskies One factor to consider is

910
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: Michael Panix. He rebounded from a two interception game against

911
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: Arizona State through for three seventy and four scores against Arizona,

912
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: although he did have a late turnover that could have

913
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: proved very costly. But what about that defense. You know,

914
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: you got to play on both sides of the ball.

915
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 2: The question is ken Washington regained that momentum Saturday against

916
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: USC That's gonna be the question, and they're gonna have

917
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: to do it, and I think they're gonna need to

918
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: accumulate some style points as well.

919
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: Ohio State.

920
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: I do believe he is one of the best teams

921
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: in the CURRENTY and I think they deserve maybe to

922
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: be number one. They've got two pretty damn good wins.

923
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: They beat two top ten teams. What her name was

924
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: a top ten team and they beat him on the road.

925
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: And Penn State was a top ten team and they

926
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: beat him a couple of weeks ago. But the Buckys

927
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: have really yet to play a dominant sixty minute performance,

928
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: So I think some people are finding concerning. Even in

929
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: a twenty four to ten win again against Wisconsin that

930
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: saw the offense kind of struggle to find their explosive plays.

931
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: They couldn't sustain drives against an opponent who's clearly in

932
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: the bottom third of the Big Ten. And again I

933
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: gave my commentary on Marvin Harrison last week. You got

934
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: to ask yourself where would they be without Marvin Harrison?

935
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 2: But they do have him. Okay, one hundred and twenty

936
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: three yards two scores last week, and they did get

937
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: back to Travon Henderson if he could stay healthy, one

938
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two yards in the game tying touchdown. Look,

939
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, they don't ask Kyle

940
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: how many. They don't ask Kyle just how many. But

941
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is is that I think

942
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: people would like to see Ohio State show flashes of

943
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: what they were in the past, a prolific offensive team

944
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: and a stifling defense. Their defense is better than advertised,

945
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: but They're offence does not have that pozazz and sizzle

946
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: that they've had in past years.

947
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 3: But they keep winning.

948
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: But I think there are question marks and much like Oklahoma,

949
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 2: it feels like they might have dodged a couple of bullets.

950
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 2: But again, they are still winning, so will give them

951
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt. Coming up the College Football

952
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: Committee gave him the benefit of the doubt as the

953
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: first pass in the final four or the first four

954
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: or the top four, and what I called it Made

955
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: for TV Invitational tournament has been announced.

956
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 3: Now we all know.

957
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: That the first four is never the final four, but

958
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: you should rather be there than not be there. We'll fill

959
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,799
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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to you live from Las Vegas,

965
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966
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,440
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967
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Speaker 2: The Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radiohi, right back

968
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come to

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00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: you live from the tirac dot com studios here in

970
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, taking up to two am Pacific, five am Eastern.

971
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: You know, the college football playoff field has officially started

972
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: to take shape because Tuesday, ESPN or the College Football

973
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: Playoff Committee released its first rankings and yes, defending champion Georgia. Well,

974
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: they've been ranked at the top of the AP poll

975
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: all season, but they're not ranked number one by the

976
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: CFP Committee. Here's what the top five look like. Ohio

977
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 2: State's number one, Georgia two, Michigan three, Florida State four,

978
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: in Washington five. Somebody's got to be number one, and

979
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: I have no issue whatsoever with Ohio State being number one.

980
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: I think they're in.

981
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 2: The top spot on the strength of their two impressive

982
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: wins on the road against Notre Dame, who was a

983
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: top ten team at the time, and at home versus

984
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: Penn State, also a top ten team.

985
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: None of the other.

986
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: Four undefeated Power five schools can boast two wins over

987
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: AP top ten opponents.

988
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 3: Facts schedule should matter.

989
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: Now there are five Power Conference undefeated as left standing.

990
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: Someone had to beat the odd team out and Washington

991
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: drew the short straw, even though I thought they had

992
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: an outstanding victory at home over Oregon, they won that

993
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: crucial showdown. Oregon is currently number six in the committee

994
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: rankings back on October fourteenth, and I get they've looked

995
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: a little shaky in recent weeks. Beating Arizona State fifteen

996
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: to seven, and then forty two thirty three over Stanford.

997
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: Those two teams are combined four and twelve, but they

998
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: wanted both. Okay, I've always believed that it's a backhanded compliment.

999
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: When a team doesn't win by margin, you're telling us

1000
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: that your expectations are that they're still good.

1001
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 3: They should blow everybody out. That's not fair.

1002
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: Now, Washington's gonna have plenty of chances to prove it

1003
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: deserves a spot in the fourteen field. The next three

1004
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: games are against teams ranked in the Committee's top twenty

1005
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: usc Utah and Oregon State. Two of them are gonna

1006
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: be on the road. No, if the Huskies are still

1007
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: undefeated eleven or after that gauntlet, well, then the Committee's

1008
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to very much consider Washington. By the way,

1009
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: after the end of that, by that point, Michigan will

1010
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: have played Ohio State, they play on the twenty well,

1011
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: check that, check that that's not true. Michigan plays a

1012
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: house state of the twenty fifth. But Michigan in the

1013
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: next three weeks after after Purdue, well they'll play Maryland

1014
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: or check that, Penn State, Maryland and then Ohio State.

1015
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: But we'll get to that in a minute. Georgia's schedule

1016
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: is also about to keep a whole lot tougher now.

1017
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: I think the Bulldogs, even though they're defending champs twice,

1018
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: they missed out on the top spot because their schedule

1019
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: has been a breeze. They haven't played anyone ranked in

1020
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: the Committee's top twenty five. But their next three games

1021
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: against number twelve Missouri, who gave them fits last year

1022
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: at Columbia, number ten Ole, miss and number seventeen Tennessee.

1023
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: People will say we're about to find out how good

1024
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: the defending champs are. I will be shocked, and I

1025
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: mean it shocked if Georgie doesn't win all three of

1026
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: those games. On the other hand, Florida State, and I

1027
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: said this when they're in Tauris and Jason Martin back

1028
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: in August, I thought the winner of that initial game

1029
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: between Florida State and LSU would be fast track to

1030
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: the National Championship fourteen playoff. Florida State's answered the bell. Yeah,

1031
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: we realize Clemson ain't that good, but look, Florida State's

1032
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: answered the bell.

1033
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: The remaining schedule.

1034
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: Actually, Florida State has a fairly clear path to running

1035
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: the table and they're currently number fourth. They play pitt

1036
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: this week in Pits only two and six. Then they

1037
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: play Miami, the mercurial Hurricanes, who could sneak up on you,

1038
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: but they struggled to beat Virginia who's two and six.

1039
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: Then you got North Alabama, and then you close the

1040
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: season against Florida, who's having a down year. The biggest

1041
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: threat will be the ACC championship game, which if it

1042
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: were played today, would be against number thirteen Louisville, and

1043
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: it looks like that's where we're heading. Louisville's dangerous. Louisville

1044
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: is dangerous. I don't think the committee will take a

1045
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: one lost ACC team, So Florida's got to run the table,

1046
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: but they can. But you got five weeks left before

1047
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: selection Sunday. As it were, there's bound to be plenty

1048
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: of movement in the rankings because Ohio State and Michigan

1049
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: have to play each other. Literally impossible for there to

1050
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: be five undefeated teams left standing. And the committee announces

1051
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: the final four playoff field and that will be on

1052
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: December third, So which teams are in position to move

1053
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: up into the top four? Remember the top four or

1054
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan and Florida State. But as you know,

1055
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: you've seen it every year, the initial top four is

1056
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: never the final top four. The committee has already sort

1057
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: of signal that they're very impressed by Oregon by making

1058
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: the Ducks the top one lost team in the initial rankings.

1059
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: They currently ranked sixth by Washington News fifth. There is

1060
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: a potential rematch with Washington in the PAC twelfth title

1061
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: game that would give Oregon a chance to prove its resume,

1062
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: which I think is already very impressive. Texas is ranked seventh.

1063
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: Kind of a curious decision by the committee considering that Oklahoma,

1064
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: which beat the Longhorns in their annual rivalry game, is

1065
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: ranked ninth.

1066
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: So if either of.

1067
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: Those teams were on the table, I'm grow to a

1068
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: Big twelve title, Well, let'd be worthy of playoff consideration.

1069
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: Don't sleep by number eight Alabama. The Tides only lost

1070
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: this yar year came against Texas, but they've rebounded. They

1071
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: beat Ole Miss in Tennessee. They got another ranked opponent Saturday,

1072
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: Number fourteen LSU coming to Tuscaloosa, Tigers. They're kind of

1073
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: a hurdle. They beat Alabama last year. But if Alabama

1074
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: beats LSU Saturday, and I expect them to. I feel

1075
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: like Alabama is basically booking their trip to the SEC

1076
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: championship game, which would likely be against Georgia. It is

1077
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Speaker 2: now of the question, though, that the Tide can find

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Speaker 2: themselves in the playoff field yet again. After what a

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Speaker 2: lot of people thought was a rocky start. So Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: they take the number one spot in the first playoff

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Speaker 2: rankings released Tuesday. George is right behind them at two. Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I know you're tired of hearing about it. They're in

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Speaker 2: the investigation them in their sign stealing allegations. There third,

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Speaker 2: Florida State, fourth, Washington five, Oregon sixth, top one lost

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Speaker 2: team Texas one spot, hell of Alabama. You look at

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Speaker 2: it and you put it in a blender, and I

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Speaker 2: would say this, don't get too close to believing that

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Speaker 2: this is going to be where the playoffs, where these

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Speaker 2: teams are going to be on December third. It's never happened.

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Speaker 2: It's never happened. Usually at least two of the teams

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Speaker 2: are knocked out, and you never know. There's usually chaos

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Speaker 2: the closer we get, which means we have to start

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Speaker 2: to pay close attention to the Week ten college football

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Speaker 2: viewing guide in my view, because there are lots of

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Speaker 2: teams that are ranked matchups and teams that I think

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Speaker 2: are on Upset Watch, and we'll get to those in

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Speaker 2: just a second, but first let's go back to our guy,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Figures with the latest.

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Speaker 7: And Bernie Friday Night in the NBA, Portland outlast at

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Speaker 7: Memphis in overtime, one fifteen to one thirteen Memphis now

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Speaker 7: zero and six to begin the season thirty three points,

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Speaker 7: four to rebounds, nine assists for Nicola jokicch and a

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Speaker 7: one twenty five to one fourteen Nuggets win over the Mavericks.

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Speaker 7: The Warriors defeated the Thunder one forty to one thirty nine,

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Speaker 7: as OKC was without Shay Gildess Alexander, who missed the

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Speaker 7: game with a knees brain. The Bucks overcame a forty

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Speaker 7: five point effort from Jalen Brunson to pick up a

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Speaker 7: one ten to one oh five victory over the Knicks,

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Speaker 7: thirty points there.

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Speaker 1: For Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 7: Indiana blew an eighteen point lead before eking out a

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Speaker 7: one twenty one to won sixteen win over the Cavs Miami.

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Speaker 7: Led by as many as twenty five points, they would

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Speaker 7: eventually hold on for a one twenty one to one

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Speaker 7: fourteen victory over Washington. In the NFL News, Browns quarterback

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Speaker 7: to Shawn Watson will start against Arizona on Sunday. Falcons

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Speaker 7: receiver Drake London is out against Minnesota with a growing injury.

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Speaker 7: College football victories on Friday night for Boston College and

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Speaker 7: Wyoming back to Berdie Freddo.

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Speaker 3: Buddy, and h.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna catch up with you and Shay after the

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Speaker 2: top of the aar I'm gonna dive into the James

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Speaker 2: Harden thing and we'll get you guys' thoughts after the

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Speaker 2: top of next hour. But we're just eight and a

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Speaker 2: half hours away from Week ten of college football resuming

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Speaker 2: there well, the Saturday portion. Obviously, there have been games

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Speaker 2: during the week. This week things start to get even

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Speaker 2: more interesting because not only are there five ranked versus

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Speaker 2: ranked matchups, but there are several ranked teams you would

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Speaker 2: have to consider potentially on upset watch ol Miss, Penn State, Louisville,

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01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, UCLA. They're all favored by single digits is

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01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: unranked opponents, and as you see how this season has gone,

1133
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: don't be surprised if one of them falls. And by

1134
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: the way, now Kansas number twenty one after their big

1135
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: win against Oklahoma, they shocked Oklahoma. They're actually an underdog

1136
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Speaker 2: at Iowa State. So at this point in the season,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot on the line. And as my buddy

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Speaker 2: Mark Lawrence used to say, for the undefeated teams, the

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Speaker 2: noose is tightening.

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Speaker 3: One of the games I'm most interested in, though.

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: Neither of these teams are are undefeated, but Kansas number

1142
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Speaker 2: twenty three at number seven, Texas, Texas is laying four.

1143
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: The real question here is can Texas survive another week

1144
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: with Otquinn viewers, youwers got hurt. October twenty first against Houston,

1145
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: which you opened the door for Elik Murphy made his

1146
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: first career start versus BYU. Texas won thirty five to six.

1147
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: Murphy was sixteen to twenty five for a bucks seventy

1148
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Speaker 2: and two touchdowns through one pick, but he looked a

1149
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: little shaky. The Texas run game and their defense paved

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: the way to victory. That's why. But that may have

1151
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: to be the same recipe against Kansas State, which is

1152
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: part of a five team long jam at the top

1153
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: of the Big Twelve standings. Kansas State always brings it.

1154
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: You saw what they did against TCU last year the

1155
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,479
Speaker 2: Big Twelve championship game.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Kansas State I think has fallen well below the radar

1158
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: because they lost two games earlier in the season, but

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Speaker 2: they've been dominant in their last three. Had a second

1160
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: check that a an excellent second half when they beat

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01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: Texas Tech thirty eight to twenty one. Then they crushed

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Speaker 2: TCU by actually they could trust they crushed TCU and

1163
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 2: Houston by a combined score of eighty two to three.

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Speaker 2: And Kansas as they've done on the pass or Kansas State,

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01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: they use a two quarterback system. They have a freshman

1166
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: named Avery Johnson who's lightning fast and he you know,

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01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: they have packages for him alongside their starter Will Howard,

1168
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: and it's worked well and the two of combined for

1169
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 2: twelve rutching chuck touchdowns. This is what makes this this

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 2: matchup so interesting. Texas has the best run defense in

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Speaker 2: the conference, so this will not be an easy task

1172
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: for Kansas State to beat Texas. They haven't done it

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01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: since twenty sixteen. It's a coin flip game for me.

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: I will not be involved all right. Georgia an undefeated team.

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Speaker 2: They're eight to zero. They're currently ranked to They host Missouri. Now,

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01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: Missouri has been one of the biggest surprises in college football.

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Speaker 2: They're ranked twelve. They're on the verge of their best

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Speaker 2: season since they won back to back SEC titles back

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Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, but they've not had a

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Speaker 2: winning season in five years. But they're currently seven and

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Speaker 2: one as they head into Athens later day. The Tigers, well,

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: they gave Georgia major scare last year in Columbia. This

1183
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: team is actually better than that team, especially on offense.

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01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: They got a ton of skilled talent. They got a

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01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver named Luther Burden. Looked for him to make

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01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: some plays even against the Georgia defense, which is very good.

1187
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Speaker 2: And of course we all know Georgia is on a

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01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: quest for the third consecutive national title and their schedule

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Speaker 2: ranked up in difficulty last week. But they answered the bell.

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Speaker 2: The Bulldogs well, and then the world's largest cocktail party,

1191
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: which again I think has lost some luster that you know,

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: Florida was never in that game. It was twenty six

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Speaker 2: to seven before the seats were warm. They beat Florida

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Speaker 2: forty three to twenty. Them now won three straight games

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Speaker 2: Georgia versus ranked opponents. The big question of the Florida

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Speaker 2: game was how would the Georgia offense fair without their

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Speaker 2: stud tight end Brock Bauers, missed a game with an

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Speaker 2: ankle injury.

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Speaker 3: Well, Georgia passed the test.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Carson Beck is now throwing for three hundred yards

1201
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: four times in the last five games. Can he keep

1202
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Speaker 2: it going? We're gonna find out now. Georgia Tech is

1203
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: a two touchdown favorite. They're laying fifteen and a half.

1204
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Speaker 2: I can't I can't bet this game, but I would

1205
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: not take the points. It would not surprise me if

1206
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,799
Speaker 2: Georgia really flexed their muscle. The final potentially the final Bedlam.

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Speaker 2: This game always is highly entertaining. Oklahoma State might only

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01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 2: even rank twenty second, but they are home against number

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Speaker 2: nine Oklahoma coming, you know, coming off of their their

1210
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Speaker 2: disappointing loss to Camas last week. At Oklahoma is laying

1211
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: six points on the road, and they're saying this is

1212
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Speaker 2: gonna be likely the final addition of Bedlam for at

1213
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Speaker 2: least the foreseeable future. Oklahoma's moved from the Big twelve

1214
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: to the SEC next year, and it's truly unclear when

1215
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: these two teams will meet on the field a game,

1216
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: which is a shame. They've played on an annual basis

1217
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: basically for one hundred years. But they don't have anything

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01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 2: scheduled after Saturday's game, so we don't know when they'll

1219
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: play again again. Oklahoma that has suffered their first loss

1220
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Speaker 2: of the season last week, falling to Kansas. So the Sooners,

1221
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Speaker 2: they're now number nine in their college Football playoff rankings,

1222
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Speaker 2: even though they beat Texas or may in Texas. Both

1223
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the Sooners four and one a big

1224
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: twelve play. But Oklahoma State is the hotter team right now.

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01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: Oli Gordon, he's a star running back. He's running for

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01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 2: almost nine hundred yards. And the Cowboys, you know, had

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01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: added at a rough start to and two, but they're

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Speaker 2: four and to they're four and oh. Since if somehow

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State can upset Oklahoma, well, they've been an excellent

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Speaker 2: position to get the conference title game. And Mike you remember,

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01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm well man, I'm forty yell at me. Can you

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01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: believe it's been like sixteen years since that famous press conference. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's only beating Oklahoma three times in his nineteen years

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Speaker 2: as head coach.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what they can do.

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Speaker 2: Saturday. Coming up, I want to talk about Washington, USC, LSU, Alabama.

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Speaker 2: We'll touch on Arkansas, Florida Army Air Force, and a

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01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: couple of other games, including Penn State Maryland. Because frankly,

1239
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Speaker 2: I just have a funny feeling things could get topsy

1240
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: turvy Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you my thoughts.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddle or Comedy Live from the Las Vegas

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Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Irre back on The Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: at discover dot com. Slash match Well, I mentioned that

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01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 2: I thought Week ten, which is today, could have some

1254
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: could end up providing some landmines for some teams that

1255
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 2: have designs on winning the national championship. Let's start with

1256
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: Washington s seed. Interesting line. You doub lame three at

1257
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: USC facing a defense it couldn't stop a nosebleed. But

1258
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: undefeated Washington is drawing some questions. What's going on? Yesterre

1259
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: undefeated Yester number five team in the country, But they

1260
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: really haven't looked themselves since I knocked off Oregon thirty

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: six thirty three back on October fourteenth. Since then, they

1262
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: needed a fourth quarter pitch six just to beat Arizona State,

1263
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 2: and then they avoided a major scare last week with

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01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: a narrow road win over Stanford. Now Washington has the

1265
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 2: current betting favorite to win the Heisman Trophy, Michael Pennix,

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Speaker 2: and their Week ten opponent, which is USC Caleb Williams.

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01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 2: He's the Ranning Heisman winner with both defenses kind of

1268
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 2: struggling with USC doesn't have a defense total actually seventy

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 2: six and a half, So this could just turn into

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01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 2: a track meet basketball game. You should have a good

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01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 2: quarterback duel. This is a very interesting opportunity for US

1272
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 2: he to somewhat revitalize their season. They're not going to

1273
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and I don't think they're going to the

1274
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: Pac twelve Championship game, but they can peel all over

1275
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: Washington's parade. See the Trojans have two losses already. Technically,

1276
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: they're still alive in the Pac twelve race thanks to

1277
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: a fifty to forty nine win over Cal last week.

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01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 2: In fact, USC would have sole position in the first

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: place if they beat the If they beat the Huskies,

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Speaker 2: I just can't see it. With people I know that

1281
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: are sure up, that I trust, think USC could sneak

1282
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: up on them. Be that as it may. As my

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: friend Mark Lauren says, the news sows against tighter after

1284
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: week five or week six if you're still undefeated, and

1285
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: that would be Washington. Now Alabama has one loss, Okay,

1286
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: this is also a potential landmine for Alabama. They lost

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Speaker 2: to LSU last year. Number fourteen. LSU comes to town

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Speaker 2: with a prolific offense. Bama is a three point favorite.

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Speaker 2: Very tempting because I can't remember the last time BAMA

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01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: was only a three point favorite at home, and Nick

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: Sabans said of years ago, good defense doesn't be good

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01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,839
Speaker 2: offense anymore. Now Saban's defense is good, but LSU's offense

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01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 2: is great.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: People have kind of one of those pushed LSU to

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Speaker 2: the side. When they lost the Old Miss to fall

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01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: to three and two. But the Tigers, Brian Kelly's team

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01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: won the SEC West last season, and they're actually hyped

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Speaker 2: as a national title contender entering the season. I mentioned

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Speaker 2: I told you they played Florida State Week one. Had

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01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: the beaten Florida State, they probably I don't know, I

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01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 2: don't know where they'd be, but they might have been

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 2: living up to that hype. So the fact that LSU

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: had two losses before the month of September certainly did

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01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: not match what expectations were in Baton Rouge. However, since then,

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01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 2: LSU's won three in a row, their four and one

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01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: a conference play. Their star, their quarterback, Jayden Daniels, he's

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: put up phenomenal numbers. And if somehow LSU can beat

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Speaker 2: Alabama and Tuscaloose on Saturday, actually LSU could put themselves

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01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: in excellent passe you get back to the SEC title game.

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: But I again, they've got two losses. There's never been

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01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 2: a two loss team getting to the playoffs. But if

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01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: Bama gets a second loss, this is the thing to watch.

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: It kicks off seven to forty five Easter in a

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: night game. If Bama gets a second loss. Well, then

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01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: their season is kabbutz. They still have national championships aspiration. Yes,

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01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: Alabama lost to Texas at Week two, but since then

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Speaker 2: they've reeled off six consecutive wins and they're five to zero.

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Speaker 3: Sec play.

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Speaker 2: This Alabama team, well you know it. They're not as

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: explosive on offense as their teams in recent years. But

1322
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: gave it up to Jalen Milroe. He's been more than serviceable.

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: He's settled into the starting quarterback role. He's limiting his mistakes.

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01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 2: But this team is going to be leaning on Saban's

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01:15:54,760 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 2: defense if they have designs on advancing past LSU Saturday

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: and getting back to the College football playoffs. There's some

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: other games now. Arkansas is at Florida. Arkansas has played

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01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 2: one of the toughest schedules in the country, and they're

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01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 2: gonna come out, I think, with a much better offensive

1330
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 2: approach after making their coordinator change during the bye week.

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01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: Florida coming off the Georgia loss, but they still want

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01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: to be BAWL eligible and it's still a conference game.

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01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: Here's the kicker to this game. Both teams should go

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: up and down the field. The total is fifty, which

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01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: isn't super high for a college football game. Arkansas they

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: had a pretty good comeback last week against Alabama and

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna play off four quarters. So it feels like

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01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: both teams get into the thirties. Now, another Service Academy matchup, Army.

1339
01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: They're at air Force. Who is who ranks twenty fifth?

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: They are undefeated, They're laying nineteen points. This is really odd.

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01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 2: In all of my years, I do not believe I

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: have ever seen a situation or a team who's laying

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01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: nineteen points. It's part of a game where the total

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01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: is thirty one and a half. The truth of the

1345
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: batter is this is probably an automatic underplay. There's been

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01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: nine straight unders in this series, and seven have landed

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01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: under this number of thirty one and a half. You know,

1348
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: both teams, they're run first, They're very deliberate, they chew clock.

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01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of incomplete paths, you know, which

1350
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 2: means you probably look to the dog as well. But

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01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: I feel like this game probably stays under. And actually

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01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 2: the Missouri Georgia game, which I talked about earlier, probably

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01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 2: goes over the fifty four and a half because Carson

1354
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,839
Speaker 2: Beck has not got the national pub as g Orge's quarterback,

1355
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 2: but he should storing for four underd yards three straight games.

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01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 2: I expect George's offense to open it up. But also Missouri,

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: don't listen. I told you this earlier. They got a

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01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: lot of skilled players and they can put up points.

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01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: They can put up points. Penn State at Maryland. We

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01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: haven't talked about Penn State's defense coming off an unfocused

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01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 2: effort and against Indiana they should be back to their

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01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 2: usual self here. And Penn State's offense stinks. I keep

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01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 2: hearing about how great no no, no, no no, but

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01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: they should put up points against the Maryland team we

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: lost to Northwestern. The key is this is another under

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01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 2: I like under fifty one. Finally, we haven't talked about

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 2: Kansas at Iowa State. Iowa State. This is the letdown

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01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 2: spot of all letdown spots after Kansas and the Oklahoma win.

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01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 2: It's in that game. In games, Iowa State's quietly been

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01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 2: playing very well. The Iowa State defense. They do not

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01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 2: law big plays and the offense takes care of the

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: ball all like Iowa State minus two and a half

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Speaker 2: coming up. We talked about the great James Harden. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: keep it locked well, that's right, you heard the man.

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Speaker 2: The Bernie Fraddle Show keeps rolling right along. My name

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Speaker 2: com studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to talk about James Harden my turn. Look,

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Speaker 2: James Harden is not a leader.

1384
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 3: James Harden is not a winner.

1385
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: But James Harden is now a Clipper, and for good measure,

1386
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 2: he's a formidable offensive force. But what the hell good

1387
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: was that? In Brooklyn, or Houston or Philadelphia. Once again,

1388
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: James Harden has forced his way out of another seat.

1389
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: The Sixers traded Harden to clip the Clippers in a

1390
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: massive trade midweek that actually involves seven players in six

1391
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: draft picks. In case you missed out on the details, well,

1392
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 2: the Clippers not only got James Harden, they got PJ.

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01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 2: Tucker and Philip Petrocev. The Sixers got Nicholas Patoomb, Marcus Morris,

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: Robert Covington, kJ Martin a twenty twenty eight unprotected first

1395
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: round pick, two second round picks, a twenty nine pick swap,

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01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: and another first round pick via a third d f

1397
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 2: B determined team. It's a lot of movement, so it's

1398
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: been no secret. Of course, James Harden had been angling

1399
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: for trade, specifically to the Clippers since the summer. He

1400
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 2: started to bark June like he always does. Then he

1401
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: exercised his thirty five million dollar player option for the season,

1402
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: then immediately demanded a trade. Now Harden could have declined

1403
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: the option, could have become a free agent and then

1404
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 2: signed with the team of his choosing. But instead, what

1405
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: ensued was a month long stalemate between James Harden and

1406
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: the Sixers, and it got very ugly and honest. When

1407
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 2: James Harden on tape I think, called Daryl Morey, the

1408
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 2: GM of the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, a liar, he

1409
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: said he never played for Daryl Mory again. Then in

1410
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: recent weeks he did that in well. Course, Harden did

1411
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: not join the team on their opening road trip to

1412
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: Milwaukee in Toronto made it clear he did not plan

1413
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 2: to retract. He refusal to play, so the Sixers they

1414
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: got the deal done well.

1415
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 3: The trade does give the Clippers some stump power.

1416
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: You had a Harden do a lineup that already has Kawhi, Leonard,

1417
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 2: Paul George, and Russell Westbrook, And if this were Hell

1418
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, that might be the basis of a legit

1419
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:17,839
Speaker 2: title contender.

1420
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: But you guys are all on the wrong side of

1421
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:21,560
Speaker 3: thirty man.

1422
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 2: Harden's thirty four, Westbrook turns thirty five in a couple

1423
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 2: of weeks, Paul George is thirty three, Leonard's thirty two.

1424
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 3: Even Still, I guess on paper you could.

1425
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 2: Say the Clippers have enough talent to be a contender

1426
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 2: in the West, provided they can somehow harness these names.

1427
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 2: Harden is old, though, Man, he's old. He's gonna be

1428
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: looking for a new contract in the summer. His last

1429
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: three exits have all been handled like a complete train wreck.

1430
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 2: Do the Clippers really have the infrastructure, Do they really

1431
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: have the support system? Do they really have the leadership

1432
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: to manage the mercurial James Harden? You can say that

1433
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: remains to be seen, but you already know the answer,

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01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: assuming Harden is even on his best behavior for the

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01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: rest of the season at least. Admittedly, that's a losing bet.

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: That's if you assume that you know what assume means. Well,

1437
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: then the Clippers, well, okay, assuming they do, I'll give

1438
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: them the benefit of the doubt for purposes of this conversation. Well,

1439
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: the Clippers have a little bit.

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01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: Of an insurance policy.

1441
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: God forbid, Kawhi gets hurt again, or they get hurt

1442
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: at Point Guard. They've brought themselves some depth, and if

1443
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: they have designs on winning a championship, you can, in

1444
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 2: theory say you can't one them out based on the talent.

1445
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: I maybe ninety nine percent count them out. But if

1446
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 2: you're the Sixers, come on, man, you're dancing in the aisles.

1447
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: This is the greatest day. You're happy, you're doing your

1448
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 2: happy dance, and you're breathing a siary leaf too.

1449
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: You not only successfully.

1450
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: Unload us a disgruntled I'm not even gonna call him

1451
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: a star. You're unloading a disgruntled player who is never

1452
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 2: worth a headache. I mean, he's got a body of work. Again,

1453
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Houston, Philly, you've unloaded a massive headache, but you've

1454
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: added some valuable death death Nicholas Patoomb Covington. They're capable shooters,

1455
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 2: they're good defenders, and you got a haul of draft picks.

1456
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 2: You might even be able to flip those in the

1457
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: future deals that bolster with the roster later in the season.

1458
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 2: From a Sixer stand point, the biggest implication of the

1459
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: trade is it will allow Tyrese Maxie to play an

1460
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: increased role besides reigning MVP Joel Embiid Now Maxie, who

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01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: I think terms twenty three today, he's bloss him into

1462
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: one of the best young players in the league. He's

1463
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: averaged like twenty one points a game last season, making

1464
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: almost forty four percent of his shots from behind the arc,

1465
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 2: which I think ranks him top five three point percentage

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01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 2: in the league. But the challenge for max he will

1467
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: be making the transition from being a complementary piece behind

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01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: Embiiden Harden to being the team's primary backwarts scoring option.

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01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 2: But Heiden with Harden not on the floor for the

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01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: first three games of the season this season, Maxi looked

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01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: pretty comfortable in his new role. He's already averaging thirty

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01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: points a game fifty shooting six percent from three point

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01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 2: land and beads the star. But the truth of the

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01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: matter is the Sixers aren't going anywhere if Maxi doesn't

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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 2: step up, but so far he has. But again, you

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01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 2: get rid of James Harden. You can't say you had

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01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 2: a bad day and you know exactly why I say

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01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 2: what I say, and you can disagree with me, but

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01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: you'd be wrong. Coming up, I want to bring in

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Speaker 2: the crew. Kevin knows a lot about basketball. I want

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01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: to get Shay's thoughts on on James Harden, and we

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01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: might even dabble a little bit on the on the

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Speaker 2: mid season tournament in their thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Slash match.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, James Harden, you heard me say it.

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01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 2: He's not a leader, he's not a winner, but he's

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01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: now a clipper. He can dress up on Halloween as

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01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: a clipper. That's the night the trade went down. And

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Speaker 2: I did say he is a formidable offensive force. But

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01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: what good was that in Brooklyn, Houston, or Philly? And

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01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 2: will it be anything in Los Angeles? Kevin, let's start

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01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: with you first of all, before we get into the

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01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: trade itself. What's your general observations and analysis of James

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01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: Harden the player.

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Speaker 7: I think he's a phenomenal basketball player that's had some

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01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 7: measure of success. I mean, and his best upbreing thing

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01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 7: performance was I forget exactly the year. I don't know

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01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 7: if it was eighteen or seventeen. He was at the

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01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 7: Houston Rockets with Chris Paul. They made it all the

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01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 7: way to Game seven against the Golden State Warriors. Chris

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01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 7: Paul actually got hurt. I mean, they were like zero

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01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 7: for twenty eight or something from three and right in

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01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 7: there with Kevin Durant led Golden State Warriors and almost

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01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 7: had it there.

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Speaker 1: I know he's been.

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01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 7: Labeled as a bit of a selfish player at times.

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01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 7: He doesn't play in a very aesthetically pleasing style of ball,

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01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 7: with the isolations and the dribbling and the baiting of

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01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 7: fouls and all that. But I would say he's probably

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01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 7: one of the better offensive players we've seen in the

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01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 7: league in the last fifteen years. I don't think that hyperbole,

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01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 7: so I think as an individual basketball player, he's amazing.

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01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 7: Though I've never thought that he was truly going to

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01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 7: be the head of the snake of a championship contender,

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01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 7: and so far that shown itself throughout his career to

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Speaker 7: this point.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 2: As an offensive formidable force that's undeniable. And he's also

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01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 2: a very good passer, although in crunch time when it matters,

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01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 2: seen him come through. Why do you think, and again,

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01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: all three of his prior exits have been disastrous in

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01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 2: light of his obvious talent offensively, why do you think

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01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 2: it's never manifested himself in winning well?

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Speaker 7: I think one thing you brought up importantly was the

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01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 7: fact that he's just not been very clutched throughout his career.

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Speaker 7: And this goes back to his days in Oklahoma City.

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01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 7: That NBA Finals run when they lost to the Miami Heat,

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01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 7: when he destroyed the San Antonio Spurs in the Western

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01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 7: Conference Finals, was really pretty much the key catalyst as

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01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 7: to why they advanced. And then it was the exact

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01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 7: opposite when they made it to the finals and he

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01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 7: just went into a tank and was a big reason

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01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 7: why they lost that series. And in pretty much every

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01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 7: meaningful important game, you know, I mentioned the Game seven

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01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 7: against the Golden State Warriors. Go back to the last

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01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 7: couple of years in Philadelphia, that Boston series last year,

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01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 7: he was so jek lun hyde forty point game one night,

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01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 7: you know, eight points in four for twenty from the

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Speaker 7: field the.

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Speaker 1: Next or whatever it was.

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Speaker 7: He's been really inconsistent when it matters most, and I

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01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 7: think that's the biggest reason why he hasn't been able

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01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 7: to go to get the teams over the hump with

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01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 7: him again as the lead dog, I think as a

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01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 7: auxiliary player, as a third head of a team, which

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Speaker 7: he is now with the Clippers, he might have a shot.

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Speaker 7: But I think if he's your best player or even

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01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 7: second best player. With the burden on his shoulders, I

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Speaker 7: just don't think he's the guy that you would want

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Speaker 7: to rely on.

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Speaker 2: So when he makes the statement the other day, I'm

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Speaker 2: not a system player, I'm a system, how.

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Speaker 3: Do you interpret that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of difficult to interpret.

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Speaker 7: I guess what he's trying to say is, you know,

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01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 7: he felt like Doc Rivers was And he didn't say

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Speaker 7: it explicitly, but we know what he was trying to imply.

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Speaker 7: Doc Rivers basically tried to handcuff him and then to

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Speaker 7: mold him into the player that Doc wanted him to

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01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 7: be in handcuff him. And I think he's basically saying, like,

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Speaker 7: I'm actually multible. I can play whatever style you want.

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01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 7: You just have to be able to listen and be

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01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 7: able to be malleable and determine what role I need

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Speaker 7: to play on a given night.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of that's what he said.

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Speaker 7: After he made the statement that kind of went viral

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01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 7: about being I am a system. He said he's now

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01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 7: with the coach that is going to listen to him

1585
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 7: on the sideline and say, hey, they're playing me this way.

1586
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 7: The game is shaping up that way usually lose me

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01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 7: in a different role as opposed to just saying this

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Speaker 7: is your role, this is what you play, and this

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Speaker 7: is how you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 3: Things, all right.

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Speaker 2: So one last thing, Kendrick Perkins made the statement the

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Speaker 2: other day that he believes that Westbrook, Russell Westbrook should

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Speaker 2: remain in his role as the starter and and bringing

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01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Perkins check that bringing Harden as a sixth man, how

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Speaker 2: do you think that's going to work?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 7: I disagree. Actually, I think I would do the opposite.

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01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 7: I would actually put Russell Westbrook on the bench. I

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Speaker 7: would start Harden and make him the de facto point guard.

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Speaker 7: You know, one thing that the Clippers have really been

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01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 7: missing through this, Kawhi pg Tenure is really a ball creator,

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01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 7: a shot creator for those guys. They're both talented and

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01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 7: phenomenal players who can create their own shot, but it

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01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 7: makes things so much easier when someone can actually make

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01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 7: those shots for you from a point guard position. And

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Speaker 7: I think that's kind of where James Harden really fills

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Speaker 7: a role that they've needed over these past five seasons.

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Speaker 7: Russell Westbrook, I think, really thrives when you know he

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01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 7: can be a change of pace guy coming off the bench,

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01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 7: really push the ball up court and kind of give

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01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 7: teams a little bit of a different look. There's going

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Speaker 7: to be times where Russell and Harden are going to

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01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 7: have to play on the court at the same time,

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Speaker 7: and that might be a tough fit. Though I do

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Speaker 7: believe James Harden can be effective as a spot up

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01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 7: shooter just as he is with the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 7: and Russell Westbrook has thrived when really teams go five

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01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 7: out but allows him to just be a driver into

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01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 7: the lane unopposed. So I think the Clippers actually have

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01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 7: a lot of options on their hands is how they

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01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 7: want to play this. But if it were me, I

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01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 7: would start Harden and actually bring Westbrook off the bench

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01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 7: with Haren's Mann and a couple of others and really

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01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 7: go up tempo and have the opportunity to strategically really

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01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 7: throw different looks at teams depending on what lineup is

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01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 7: on the floor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't really disagree with that.

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Speaker 2: There's this odd situation though, that Paul George seems to

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01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 2: thrive when Russell Westbrook is his point guard. If you

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Speaker 2: go back and look at when he played at Oklahoma City,

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Speaker 2: Paul George was having an MVP season, he averaged like

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Speaker 2: twenty eight points a game, and I think he gave

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Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook credit for that. Even this year with Westbrook starting,

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Speaker 2: George is averaging what twenty seven and a half points

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Speaker 2: a game, shooting fifty three.

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Speaker 3: Clippers are three and one.

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Speaker 2: You know, in light of that, do you take that

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Speaker 2: into consideration or would you still go with Harden to.

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01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 7: A certain degree, you do, But look, James Harden obviously

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01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,600
Speaker 7: is a game changer, and Russell Welsbrook, even if not,

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01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 7: he's not even the same player, you know, clearly as

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01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 7: he was what four or five years ago when he

1643
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 7: played with Paul George. So it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 7: There's gonna be an adjustment period. There's gonna be some

1645
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 7: tinkering to figure out which lineups work best. And I'm

1646
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 7: sure there are going to be lineups where Paul George. Look,

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01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 7: all four of those guys are gonna be on the

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01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 7: court at the same time in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 7: But from a starting standpoint, I think behoof Clippers, the

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Speaker 7: Clippers best if they were to put Paul George, Kawhi

1651
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 7: Leonard with James Harden as the starting point guard, a defense,

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01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 7: starting point guard obviously, and bring Russell Westbrook off the bench,

1653
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 7: and look, if that doesn't work and they deem it

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01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 7: more effective to I have Westbrook in the starting lineup

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01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 7: and we're getting hardened off the bench, I don't know

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Speaker 7: if that will happen.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: The issue is I think both of them been humbled

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01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 7: to a certain degree, which is why I think James

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01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 7: Harden he's gonna be on his best behavior because he

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01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 7: has to. He's in the final year of his contract,

1662
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 7: he's thirty three, he's looking to make one more major

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01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 7: deal before he hangs it up. And Russell Westbrook was

1664
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 7: humbled by the fact that he's signed for a veteran

1665
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 7: minimum to begin with with the Clippers last season, after

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Speaker 7: being traded by the Lakers and then resigning this offseason.

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Speaker 7: So I think both of those guys are gonna fill

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Speaker 7: whatever role is necessary. So I really don't think either

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01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 7: of them are gonna be locker room issues this.

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Speaker 1: Season for the Clippers.

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01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 7: They're gonna play nice and really try to take advantage

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01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 7: of the fact that this is kind of a last

1673
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 7: gas for all four of these guys to try to

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Speaker 7: win a championship.

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Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, all right? Shaye let me get

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01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,799
Speaker 2: your thoughts. James Harden is now playing for the LA Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Are you a Clipper fan?

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Speaker 3: By the way, now I'm a Laker fan. Actually I

1679
01:34:58,439 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 3: agree with.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he'll have an interesting perspective. Just give me your

1681
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 2: general thoughts on James Harden the player. And then he's

1682
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Speaker 2: moved to the Clippers.

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Speaker 9: So, I mean, I've heard a lot about this, because

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Speaker 9: I mean, I do a lot of work with Anthony

1685
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 9: Gargano and he's a Philly guy. Yeah, I've I've heard

1686
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Speaker 9: a lot about this, and from a seventy six Ers perspective,

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Speaker 9: I think this trade was amazing from them. Not only

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01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 9: did they get rid of what Anthony likes to call

1689
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Speaker 9: the Hasa the pig that flies. Yeah, yeah, no, he's

1690
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 9: been calling of that for years, and I guess he

1691
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Speaker 9: was right, honestly.

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Speaker 3: Which is hilarious, absolutely right.

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Speaker 9: But no, they get rid of him, they get rid

1694
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 9: of PJ. Tucker's pretty horrible contract, and they get picks

1695
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 9: for hopefully what I think they'll get is a wing,

1696
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 9: which they really need, they're desperate for, and as you said, Tyri,

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Speaker 9: Smass can develop more in that role. And I think,

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01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 9: I mean last year we saw especially in the playoffs

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Speaker 9: he was going off and I think if he really

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01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 9: does develop in that role, this was the best thing

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01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 9: the Sixers could have done. When you're looking at it

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01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 9: from a Clippers point of view, I just don't I

1703
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 9: don't really see the point of it. Yeah, I was.

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01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 9: If they had James Harden starting over Russ, it would

1705
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 9: make sense. But the fact that they have Russ not

1706
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 9: coming off the bench makes zero sense to me. I mean,

1707
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 9: he was better in that role as a laker. I

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01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 9: mean I went through it for a whole season, trust me,

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01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 9: it was tough watching him as a starter, but I

1710
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 9: mean coming off the bench, he actually thrived in that role.

1711
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 9: And just to see them get Harden and not really

1712
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 9: have him start and have Russ still start, it was

1713
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 9: mind boggling to me. I actually didn't know they were

1714
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 9: doing that until you just said it. So that's something

1715
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 9: that really kind of bugs me. And I don't see

1716
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 9: the point of even getting hardened at that point unless

1717
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 9: it's kind of a off the court thing, which I

1718
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 9: think that's more. It seems like it you're not having

1719
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 9: them start because of that, But we'll see, I don't

1720
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 9: know the seasons, Yeah, they don't even play the game yet,

1721
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 9: so I can't really talk too much on that.

1722
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: So this trade went down on Tuesday night. I look

1723
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 2: forward to what you and Anthony and and Kevin have

1724
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 2: to say about the Sixers.

1725
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 3: Point of view.

1726
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 2: I think you bring up some good points to get

1727
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 2: a bit of a haul Nicholas Patom, Marcus Morris, Robert Covington,

1728
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of draft picks. So from that standpoint, I

1729
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: think you're If you're a Sixers fan, you're happy, right.

1730
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 2: So the real question, though, is, take me, setting aside

1731
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 2: your feelings about James Harden, is just gonna work with

1732
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 2: the Clippers or not?

1733
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 3: I think you know, I feel.

1734
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 9: No, Yeah, definitely. I mean it's it's it's hard to

1735
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 9: say because again, we haven't seen it yet. We haven't

1736
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 9: even seen the Clippers play for real, Like I don't

1737
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 9: think i've seen them play a month together fully healthy,

1738
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 9: like ready to go the entire time. So it's hard

1739
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 9: to even talk about the Lakers, what they're gonna do

1740
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 9: and how they're going to be, especially, I mean, they're

1741
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 9: kind of like the Lakers. Everyone says, Oh, they're gonna

1742
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 9: be great, but oh, how long is ad gonna be

1743
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 9: like healthy? How long is Lebron gonna be healthy. But

1744
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 9: that's the same thing with Kawhi. It's the same thing

1745
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 9: with Paul George. Paul George will always have his games

1746
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,719
Speaker 9: where he's getting threes, where he's getting crazy amount of points,

1747
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 9: but they'll still get the loss. It doesn't matter what happens.

1748
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 9: It's it's I think James Harden he's not a winner also,

1749
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 9: and they need some guy that's a winner. And in

1750
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 9: the end, they didn't get that guy with Harden. I

1751
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 9: really didn't. I don't think they got that guy with Harden.

1752
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 2: Total agreement, real quickly. Kevin, your thoughts on the NBA's

1753
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 2: mid season tournament.

1754
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 3: I hate it.

1755
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,799
Speaker 7: It makes no sense to me whatsoever that there's nothing

1756
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 7: in it for the fans. I know the players get

1757
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 7: five hundred thousand dollars if they win, so that's a

1758
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 7: great message to the general public. All you get out

1759
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 7: of it is that millionaires make half a million dollars spectacular.

1760
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 7: Makes absolutely no I know what they're trying to do

1761
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,560
Speaker 7: with the European model, but even then, it makes no

1762
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 7: soccer model to yeah, European soccer model, because you have

1763
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 7: different teams from different leagues that are playing each other.

1764
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,839
Speaker 7: In those tournaments, NBA teams are playing each other anyway,

1765
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 7: it doesn't really matter something different or spicy about it.

1766
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 7: So I think it makes absolutely no sense if they're

1767
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 7: going to get a couple of extra shekels out of

1768
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 7: ESPN and TNT out of it because they want to

1769
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 7: attach it NCS and tournament and have that extra game

1770
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 7: in Vegas or a couple of games in Vegas. And

1771
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 7: I guess it's a mondy grab by all means. But

1772
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 7: to say that this is for the fans and it's

1773
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 7: going to add add excitement, absolutely not.

1774
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 2: It feels clunky to me, even though the final four

1775
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 2: will be here in Vegas. I'm tempted to go the

1776
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 2: quote unquote NBA Cup and what some of the you know,

1777
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 2: the games will start toward, check that the games will

1778
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 2: count toward the standings. When out all the games, the

1779
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 2: final game won't. That'll be considered like the eighty third game,

1780
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 2: and I think the stats will either. It just feels clunky,

1781
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 2: and I think I want to see if it was

1782
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 2: Tyrese Halliburton said maybe the winner should be Their suggestion

1783
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 2: was the team who wins is an automatic player.

1784
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1785
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 2: I'm still learning more about it. I've got all the data,

1786
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 2: but it's still it feels clunky. Shit, you got the

1787
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 2: last word on this. Your thoughts on.

1788
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 9: The I mean, I don't see the point why to

1789
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 9: hate on it, Like there's no point to like, there's

1790
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 9: a zero down I mean as a fan, there really

1791
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 9: is zero risk or like downside for like as a fan,

1792
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's more fun, I guess. I mean, yeah,

1793
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 9: I guess it could be annoying, but again, like I

1794
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 9: don't really see the downside of it as a fan,

1795
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 9: it could be fun. Who knows.

1796
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to find out. And they did copy

1797
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 2: the European Soccer model, and I'll keep an open mind.

1798
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm not excited about it, but I'm going to keep

1799
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 2: an open mind. And speaking of that, coming up after

1800
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 2: Kevin's update, Chris Purffet's World of Soccer will have an

1801
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:46,759
Speaker 2: updated version.

1802
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,719
Speaker 3: But first let's go back to our guy, Kevin Figures

1803
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 3: with the latest and Ernie.

1804
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 7: All of the games on the slate on Friday night

1805
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 7: were pool games for the end season tournament, so we'll

1806
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 7: run through some of the scores there. The Nicola Jolki

1807
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 7: scored thirty three, leading Denver to a one to twenty

1808
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 7: five to one to fourteen victory over the Mavericks. He

1809
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 7: had thirty points and seven assists for Steph Curry as

1810
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 7: the Warriors defeated Oklahoma City one forty one to one

1811
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 7: thirty nine. Memphis now zero to six this season so far.

1812
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 7: They lost to Portland one fifteen to one thirteen in overtime.

1813
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 7: Damian Lowland scored thirty points twenty two points for Giannisi

1814
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 7: to Takumpo in a one ten to one oh five

1815
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 7: victory over the Knicks despite forty five points from Jalen Brunson.

1816
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 7: The Heat, Pacers and Nets also won on Friday night,

1817
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 7: News out of college Football Michigan stafford Connor Stallions has

1818
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 7: resigned from his position amid the NCAA's investigation into his

1819
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 7: involvement in illegal off campus scouting and sign stealing. Stallions

1820
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 7: told the Athletic he did not want to be a

1821
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 7: distraction to the university on the field. Friday night, Boston

1822
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,759
Speaker 7: College handed Syracuse their fifth consecutive loss, while Wyoming defeated

1823
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 7: Colorado State twenty four to fifteen back to Bernie Friddle.

1824
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: All Right, good stuff, guys, good thoughtful stuff. On James

1825
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 2: Harden the tournament. Speaking of tournaments, soccer also has their

1826
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 2: own mid season tournament. But that's not all Because twenty

1827
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 2: four seven, three sixty five, the world of soccer continues

1828
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 2: to provide storylines. That's why each week at this time

1829
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 2: we bring you Chris Purfetts World of Soccer.

1830
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 6: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international dramai Aim.

1831
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 6: It's all here in this report from the world of soccer.

1832
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 5: A lot to get to this week in the world

1833
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 5: of soccer, Bernie, without any warning, We're going to dive

1834
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 5: right into it. First off, let's start stateside. MLS Cup

1835
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 5: playoffs are ongoing. Welcome to the first round. It is

1836
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 5: a row. It is a best of three in the

1837
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 5: first round. Here in the semi finals, the format switches

1838
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 5: to a single elimination game. I find out a lot

1839
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 5: more interesting than the best of three, if you ask me.

1840
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 5: But that's how we start here, and a lot more

1841
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 5: to come in these playoffs. We're just waiting to get

1842
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 5: going and see what's best. But MLS does have to

1843
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 5: say farewell for now. We'll see if he joins another club.

1844
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 5: But the Los Angeles Galaxy bid farewell on Friday to

1845
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:22,799
Speaker 5: their striker Javier Hernandez, better known as Chia Rito Chiza Rito,

1846
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 5: the Mexican player who has been a part of my

1847
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 5: life as long as I've watched soccer, from the ten

1848
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 5: years he played with the Mexican team to his early

1849
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 5: years in Guadalajara, his time spent with Manchester United, and

1850
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 5: then coming here stateside in twenty twenty to play for

1851
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 5: the Los Angeles Galaxy. He suffered an ACL tear back

1852
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,839
Speaker 5: in June, and he has released a thank you message

1853
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 5: to Galaxy on social media. It seems like the end

1854
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 5: of a chapter of his career here at age thirty

1855
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 5: five coming off an ACL tear.

1856
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what.

1857
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,520
Speaker 5: The future holds for him, but we bid him fun

1858
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 5: travels and hopefully we'll see him back on the pitch

1859
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 5: somewhere else, maybe even Stateside once more. Chi Cerrito is

1860
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 5: a magical player. You hear the call in the open

1861
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 5: that's not a mistake. Chi Cerrito is one of those names,

1862
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 5: the leading goal scorer in history for Mexico, and just

1863
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:24,600
Speaker 5: a remarkable, remarkable player to watch. Another remarkable player is

1864
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 5: Leonelle Messi, who, yes, as we told you in the past,

1865
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 5: world of soccer has now officially done, it secured his

1866
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 5: eighth blondi Or with over one hundred votes over the

1867
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 5: next closest contender, and that would have been Earling Holland,

1868
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 5: the Manchester City Norwegian striker. The Blondie Or represents the

1869
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 5: best footballer in the world in a given year. And

1870
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 5: while some may contend that the award is a lot

1871
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 5: of friends voting for players they like, Leonel Messi now

1872
01:44:55,240 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 5: stands alone, well well more alone, at eight yours all time.

1873
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,919
Speaker 5: He was already there with seven, but like this continues

1874
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 5: to put him ahead of the pack and continuing to

1875
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 5: talk about his legacy in broader and broader strokes. Now, however,

1876
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 5: if I may, let's move from the good to the bad,

1877
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,759
Speaker 5: and for that we have to jump over the pond

1878
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 5: over to England to talk about the red devils of

1879
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 5: Manchester United, which if you tune into any Premier League

1880
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 5: broadcast here in the next few days, you will notice

1881
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 5: a lot of talk about Manchester United, especially about what

1882
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 5: is going wrong and what is going wrong with their

1883
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 5: manager Eric ten Hogg. To explain this, we have to

1884
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 5: start working with a lot of talk about how bad

1885
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 5: Manchester United has started here in the Premier League Manchester

1886
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 5: United has five wins and five losses. Five losses in

1887
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 5: their opening ten matches is the most United that has

1888
01:45:56,200 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 5: had since the nineteen eighty six to nineteen eighty seven season.

1889
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 5: And it gets worse than that. Manchester United has suffered

1890
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 5: eight defeats in fifteen matches in all competitions, which is

1891
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 5: United's worst start to a season since nineteen sixty two.

1892
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,759
Speaker 5: And no, wait, I'm not done. It goes back farther

1893
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,759
Speaker 5: than that. Of their first ten home matches this season,

1894
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 5: United has lost half of them. That is their worst

1895
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 5: home start since nineteen thirty. We are breaking history multiple

1896
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 5: multiple times here and talking about how United season has

1897
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 5: gotten off to an incredible shaky start and it's bringing

1898
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 5: so much attention onto their manager, Eric ten Hogg. Where

1899
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,759
Speaker 5: as the season has started to coreem and collapse, pressure

1900
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 5: has applied to him. People are talking, players are talking,

1901
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 5: and we get stories like this where we are where

1902
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 5: Eric ten Hoggs managerial approach is coming under an impressive

1903
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 5: amount of scrutiny. Surely after Manchester United's defeat on Wednesday

1904
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 5: that saw them dismissed from Carabu Cup competition, reports in

1905
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 5: the tabloids and newspapers around England really began to circulate

1906
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 5: about players being generally unhappy with Eric ten Hogg on

1907
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 5: a variety issues.

1908
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: Playing style and lack.

1909
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 5: Thereof was one of those complaints that was being cited Others.

1910
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 5: Other reports turned to talking about how Eric ten Hogg

1911
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 5: handled Harry McGuire, who was captain when he arrived. He

1912
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 5: was demoted off of the starting eleven and then stripped

1913
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 5: of the armband that demoted him as captain. Meanwhile, there's

1914
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 5: the case of Jaden Sancho back in September where he

1915
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 5: didn't make these matchday squad against Arsenal. Ten Hog revealed

1916
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 5: it was because Sancho was not really doing as very

1917
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 5: well in training. The winger protested over social media. This

1918
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 5: apparently set off a rift between him and the club,

1919
01:47:55,439 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 5: which according to some tabloids, has him training on his

1920
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 5: own and not really interacting with the rest of the club.

1921
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:07,639
Speaker 5: It's all very weird in Manchester right now, and it's

1922
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 5: worse for ten Hog because when it comes down to this,

1923
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 5: when the football press smells blood in the water, they pounce.

1924
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 5: The questions get very very aggressive, and ten Hog has

1925
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 5: been pushing.

1926
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Speaker 1: Back on all of these right now.

1927
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Speaker 5: But there is really no denying that no matter what,

1928
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 5: this is the worst start for Manchester United in a

1929
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 5: very long type. A club that has a lot of

1930
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 5: expectations and was hoping to be on the come this

1931
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 5: year and quite simply has started the worst start they've

1932
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Speaker 5: had in well those years I mentioned earlier, and unfortunately

1933
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,560
Speaker 5: for Eric ten Hogg, the fastest way to get a

1934
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 5: team back on its feet in soccer is to sack

1935
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Speaker 5: the manager. This is a man who was brought over

1936
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 5: from the Netherlands. He was hailed as to be the

1937
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 5: one to turn Manchester United around and unfortunately it doesn't

1938
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 5: look like it's going to be that way to start here.

1939
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Speaker 1: It is a wild ride.

1940
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 5: And will be in for more of it because, let

1941
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 5: me tell you, in my experience, this story doesn't go

1942
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 5: away until the manager is shown the exit and finally

1943
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 5: Bernie to bring this back around. I want to talk

1944
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 5: not about soccer, but about the NBA Cup, this in

1945
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 5: season tournament that is much vallelyhooed across the basketball with

1946
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 5: National Basketball Association.

1947
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of.

1948
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 5: Conversations in the past with people at Fox Sports Radio

1949
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 5: who ask me how this measures up to soccer tournaments,

1950
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 5: which it's patterned off of and all I can say

1951
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 5: is that it's night and day. First off, the big

1952
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 5: fly in the Oaitman is that these games count for

1953
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 5: regular seasons wins and losses, except for I think the final,

1954
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 5: which no.

1955
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 3: No.

1956
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 5: That would be like if the Carabell Cup and the

1957
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 5: FA Cup counted for Premier League points, and it doesn't

1958
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 5: do that. It seems very odd that they count that

1959
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 5: they count for points. The point of an in season

1960
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 5: tournament is that it's separate from your regular season. The

1961
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 5: second thing is that I don't know if it really

1962
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 5: is a priority in the minds of players. We have

1963
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 5: multiple trophies. We have multiple titles in soccer because the

1964
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 5: sport is so old. Some of these tournaments so old

1965
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 5: that they've simply been grandfathered in. They have hundreds that

1966
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 5: they have over one hundred years of history. In most cases,

1967
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,759
Speaker 5: we have multiple points, whereas in North America it's always

1968
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 5: ever been one trophy at the end of the year.

1969
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 5: It seems very odd to me, and I think it's

1970
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 5: going to take the NBA a long time to really

1971
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 5: butt it into the heads of both the fans and

1972
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 5: players that this tournament matters, Because right now, I don't

1973
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 5: see the stakes that's going to do for us. We'll

1974
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 5: see you next time, Bernie on the world of soccer.

1975
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Speaker 2: All right, a lot of meat on the bone there,

1976
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 2: as there always will be. Of course, a year ago

1977
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 2: this time, we were just getting ready to kick off

1978
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 2: the World Cup for men, and then the World Cup

1979
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 2: for women took place, of course in the summer. Well,

1980
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 2: it's amazing, got time flies. We're already into November, so

1981
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 2: we're on the don slide as we had to do

1982
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and Christmas and we dive into twenty twenty four,

1983
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 2: which will be the Olympics in Paris and of course

1984
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: the world of soccer.

1985
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 3: We will give you the.

1986
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 2: Preview heading into the Olympic Games in soccer and perhaps

1987
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 2: how the ust may or may not fair.

1988
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:18,679
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1989
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 2: But it just never ends twenty four to seven, whether

1990
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 2: it's MLS, the foreign players, names in the news, you

1991
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 2: name it, there's always something you're Chris mentioned a midseason tournament. Well,

1992
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 2: we talked about the midseason tournament with Kevin and Shay.

1993
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,799
Speaker 2: I will tell you what the with the mid season

1994
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 2: tournament entails and how its structured coming up as we

1995
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 2: wrap up the show, I'm Bernie Frattle. We're company live

1996
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Speaker 2: from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tireck dot Com Studios.

1997
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Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here, listening to the Bernie Fraddle

1998
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we are wrapping

1999
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 2: it up on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

2000
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 2: come to you from the tire act dot Com studios

2001
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 2: here in a Las Vegas. Before I go any further,

2002
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 2: I want to thank my broadcast team. They've been with

2003
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 2: me since eleven pm Pacific on Friday night, turning all

2004
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 2: the dials, keeping us blue together.

2005
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:17,799
Speaker 3: Teamwork, teamwork.

2006
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 2: Let's start with Kevin Figures on the updates, good input.

2007
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 3: On the NBA n Season Tournament. And James Harden as well.

2008
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 2: Same with Shay Mognguard announced the winner of the Bernie

2009
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,799
Speaker 2: Fradle Trivia Contest. Great job, and of course Mark Ramsey,

2010
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 2: our technical producer. This is our team. This is the

2011
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 2: reason we'reund the air. Great job to everybody, all right, teasey.

2012
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 2: A little bit earlier, the NBA begins their inaugural mid

2013
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 2: season tournament.

2014
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 3: It actually started.

2015
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 2: It tipped off Friday night, and I think people are

2016
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 2: still trying to figure out what all this means, believe

2017
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:04,719
Speaker 2: it or not. The NBA did a survey in eighty

2018
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 2: percent of the fans supported it. As far as the players,

2019
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 2: they're I think it's mixed. They claim they're cautiously optimistic.

2020
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,680
Speaker 2: What's the ideology. I think according to the NBA, if

2021
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 2: you take them at their word, they're of the belief

2022
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 2: that many fans skip over the first few months of

2023
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 2: the NBA season and they start to tune in once.

2024
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 3: Football is over.

2025
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 2: And what this does is actually bring some stakes to

2026
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 2: the early season. I'm gonna keep an open mind. I

2027
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 2: can't say I'm excited about it. I sample part of

2028
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:40,639
Speaker 2: it tonight with the colored floors looked a little different.

2029
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 2: Cut your attention right, and if you don't know by

2030
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 2: now here, here's a quick primer. Each NBA team will

2031
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:51,600
Speaker 2: play in a four team soccer style group and the

2032
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 2: competition will be staggered across most of the winner calendar.

2033
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 3: The well, you know.

2034
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 2: They'll be there way a fair amount of cash at

2035
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 2: the end. Nothing to sneeze at. It all started Friday night.

2036
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:13,719
Speaker 2: It will culminate here in Las Vegas on December ninth, Saturday.

2037
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:17,440
Speaker 2: That will be the championship game. Now, the semi finals

2038
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 2: will start Thursday, December seventh, and that will also be

2039
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas and Team Mobile Arena Team Mobile Arena.

2040
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 2: Now here's what's interesting is all of these games count

2041
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 2: toward the regular NBA standings, and they count towards the

2042
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 2: cumulative statistics, except for the championship game that I guess

2043
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 2: would sort of constitute the eighty second game.

2044
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 3: So you've got group play.

2045
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 2: And all thirty teams have been randomly drawn into groups

2046
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 2: of five within their conference based on one loss records

2047
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 2: from last season. Now, this is all stuff you can

2048
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 2: find on the internet. I'm not going to go over

2049
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 2: all the teams and all to be kind of boring.

2050
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 2: And what's gonna happen is starting you know, Friday and

2051
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 2: continuing through Tuesday, November twenty eighth. Each team will then

2052
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 2: have played their four designated group play games on what

2053
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 2: are called tournament nights, where you've got a game against

2054
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 2: each opponent in your group, with two games at home

2055
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 2: and two on the road. Well, eight teams will advance

2056
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 2: to the knockout round, So the team with the best

2057
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 2: standing in group play games in each of the six groups,

2058
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 2: and then two wild cards, which would be one team

2059
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 2: from each conference for the best record in their group

2060
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 2: play games that have finish second in their group, they

2061
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 2: all make it to the knockout round. But now the

2062
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 2: knockout rounds are single elimination games, and that's gonna move

2063
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 2: relatively quickly because you will have the quarterfinals and that's

2064
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 2: like on Monday, December fourth and Tuesday December fifth, but

2065
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 2: then you've got the semi finals Thursday, in the championship

2066
01:55:58,000 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 2: game on Saturday. So one team might have to play

2067
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 2: like four games in five days, but all sixty seven

2068
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 2: games across the stages of the NCAA tournament. Again, they're

2069
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 2: gonna cont toward the regular season standings except the championship.

2070
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a lot of publicity for this

2071
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 2: because fourteen of the group play games two games each tournament,

2072
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 2: and all seven knockout round games will be televised nationally,

2073
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 2: and the broadcast schedule has already been announced. You can

2074
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 2: you can easily find it all right. Victor Wembinyama will

2075
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 2: be featured in at least three these games, and I

2076
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 2: think I'll get a little bit more interested in the

2077
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 2: knockout rounds because their single elimination, and you know you've

2078
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 2: got to advance from you're gonna gotta win your group

2079
01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 2: or you know, be a wildcard team that has the

2080
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 2: second best record in your group from from your conference.

2081
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, there's kind of like this formulaic

2082
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 2: approach that will determine the matchups for these games, and

2083
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 2: they use the group play, they use the standings from

2084
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 2: last year in the conference, and you know.

2085
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 3: They.

2086
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 2: Granted all these formulas to try to create some parody, right,

2087
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 2: based on how well you did last year.

2088
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 3: And then the prize pool.

2089
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you get for this, right for

2090
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty twenty four season, the nd season tournament, Well,

2091
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 2: they've got a prize pool. It's allocated to the players

2092
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 2: on the teams that participate in the knockout rounds, and

2093
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 2: the allocations are going to increase depending on how far

2094
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 2: a team progresses in the tournament.

2095
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:44,960
Speaker 3: So it's a conclusion of the tournament.

2096
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 2: The NBA will also name the most Valuable Player of

2097
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 2: the competition and the all Tournament team, and then I'll

2098
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 2: be based on obviously on the player's performance. So there's a

2099
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 2: little bit of meat on the bone here. It's just

2100
01:57:56,440 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 2: too new to really figure out head to head point differential,

2101
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 2: total points tiebreakers, too much to put into a blender

2102
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 2: and figure out, So for now we'll just kind of

2103
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 2: watch it and try to figure out if what we're

2104
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 2: watching is a good idea or a confusing idea. It's

2105
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 2: gonna do it for the Bernie Fradle Show, back on

2106
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 2: these airwaves again Saturday night at eleven PM. Keep it

2107
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 2: locked up Next Anthony Argano and Jason fitz