WEBVTT - #360 Packers Unscripted: In search of a first 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:21.000 Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.279 I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.560 Were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field, West. 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:32.240 We are one day closer to Packers Seahawks Thursday Night 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.720 football at Century Link Field, a four four in one 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.280 Packers team, a four and five Seahawks team. Because of 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.360 the short week, this is actually our final show of 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.199 the week, which means its keys to victory time. So 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.040 with these two teams both fighting for victory number five 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:52.360 in the season, what do you see as the biggest 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.320 key to victory for the Packers in Seattle? Well, I 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.400 think it starts with the elements in that stadium. I 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.920 don't see it, as we talked about yesterday's show, Mike, 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.160 I don't know if it's the impenetrable force that maybe 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.760 it was four or five years ago. But as a 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.160 couple of guys in the locker rooms said on Tuesday, 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.600 including Aaron Rodgers, there is something still to be said 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.320 about being able to seize momentum there and being able 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.600 to take the crowd out of it. Claim Matthews touched 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.240 on this as well in that it gets loud. Uh. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.600 Mike McCarthy made the comment that they have the loudest 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.199 speakers system in the NFL, and the crowd gets into 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.200 it and everything sort of feeds off of each other. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.479 What you need to be able to do if you're 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.440 the Packers, if you're any road team, is go in 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.640 there and put up points, really get some production going 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.319 and not allowed that fan base to get the wind 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.479 behind their sales. I just think whether it's the run, 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.840 whether it's the past, whether it's a defensive stop to 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.960 begin the game, whatever it takes being able to not 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.320 allow Russell Wilson to get off to a fast start 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.880 and really get that crowd humming. Yeah. I really liked 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.680 one comment that Aaron Rodgers had at his locker on 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.240 Tuesday in which he talked about you have to be 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.160 able to withstand the surd in that stadium, and I 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.160 kind of build a whole story around that on Packers 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.280 dot Com and that anytime you go into that place, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.480 there's always going to be a surge from Seattle at 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.639 some point. You just look at the Packers history there. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.960 Two thousand and twelve, it was eight sacks of Aaron 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.840 Rodgers in the first half. Unfortunately, the Packers stayed in 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.800 the game, only down seven nothing at halftime. After that 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.840 horrible first half, they came back with a strong running 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.880 game and they were in position should have won the 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.440 game obviously, if not for the fail Mary. Then you 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.840 look at the season opener. Packers were right in the game. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.960 I believe it was a seven point game at halftime, 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.280 but there was an interception which set up points and 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.680 then a safety which was followed by a touchdown. It 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.919 was like this third quarter surge that the Seahawks had 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.079 and the Packers couldn't stop it. It was that snowball 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.359 rolling downhill and then we all know what happened in 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.440 the two thousand and fourteen NFC Championship game to end 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.440 that year. So you've got to be able to withstand 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.920 the surge and find a way to stop it. Now, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.160 a turnover could stop it. A key third down conversion 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.160 on offense when the crowd is, you know, at its 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.640 peak volume wise, trying to mess up the offense and everything. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.640 You convert something there that can stem the tide, so 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.280 to speak. The Packers are going to be in a 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.720 couple of positions on Thursday night, where they have to 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.799 do something like that and it's a matter of whether 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.480 or not they get it done. Yeah, And I think 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.160 you bring up a good point, and certainly we do 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.280 not need to go over the two thousand fourteen NFC 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.840 title game. I know that was a question that some 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.120 people try to bring up to veterans on this roster, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.120 but Clay Matthews being one of them, kind of shut 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.440 that down, saying this is a completely different team. I 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.320 think it was even to the point that the Packers 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.480 actually had guys or had players in the locker room 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.360 raise their hands if they even played in century like before, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.960 and there weren't that many hands. But one thing that 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.200 I that I do remember from that four teen game 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.760 was how quiet that stadium was at halftime. Packers obviously 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.800 weren't able to finish what they wanted to, they weren't 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.480 able to get the touchdowns they had to settle for 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.880 field goals, but it still was sixteen to nothing, and 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.600 that's as quiet now. Might have only been there three times, 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.120 I think now, but that was as quiet as I 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.560 can recall that atmosphere. The Packers need to make sure 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.640 that happens again. And and the one thing I like 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.600 that Green Bay has going for it going into this 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.320 game is one of the it's its strongest, most complete 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.000 defensive performances. Very multiple wasn't relying on one player. Head 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.160 guys step up in the face of injury and offensively 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.359 seeing that juggernaut out of the backfield that is Aaron 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.080 Jones and getting him going the way he's going on 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.360 a short week. There's a lot of things the Packers 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.760 put on film that the Seattle Seahawks are going to 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.360 have to take into account, and I think that's a 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.880 good place to be in uh in terms of really 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.440 making Pete Carroll his coaching staff think about what they're 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.520 gonna see Thursday night. Yeah, Well, with this being the 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.080 last show of the week, I've got a lot of 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.680 sponsored business I need to get through to fulfill our 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.440 obligations for West. So bear with me, but quickly. 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The 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.240 Packers actually number one in the league right now in 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.000 yards per carry as far as running the ball five 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.760 point to the Seattle Seahawks twenty nine in the league 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.240 in yards allowed per rush at five point zero. Now, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.600 they haven't given up a ton of rushing yards overall 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:36.240 because teams haven't necessarily run the ball that much. But 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.560 those two statistics really sort of stand out. And then 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.279 obviously the flip side of it. The Seahawks, the number 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.479 one rushing offense in the league, get a hundred and 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:49.200 fifty two yards per game, and the Packers they always 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.400 seem to have some lulls or some ruts in their 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.360 run defense. Where I mean, we saw Adrian Peterson get 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.480 going for Washington, we saw Frank Gore start out really 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.080 hot for the Miami Dolphins. Things like that have happened. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.800 The Packers have had their ups and downs in that area. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.040 It just it feels like a run the ball, stop 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.960 to run game to me. Yeah, and it was interesting 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.279 listen to Pete Carroll in his conference call with the 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.920 Green Bay Media. Was basically asked something along those lines, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.279 because you look at it, Mike, this is the number 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.920 one rushing offense in the NFL statistically hundred and fifty 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.080 two point two yards per game. And Carol said, one 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.720 thing that this year's team has done, and they've had 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.440 to do with a number of different running backs, as 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.800 we outlined in some of our previous shows, but they're 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.120 getting back to what they feel is their their true form, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.599 being able to establish the run, being a run team 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.400 that that can move the football in that way, maybe 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.440 lull you a little bit, and then make a big 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.760 play happen off the pass from that, and they feel 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.120 like they're getting close in terms of being able to 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:50.119 do that consistently. We saw we saw Rashad Penning step 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.039 up the way that he did. Uh, you have Mike 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.520 Davis involved in there. That could potentially be the one 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.880 to punch if Chris Carson can't come back from the hip. 0:06:58.160 --> 0:06:59.840 At the time we're shooting this, all we know is 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:03.520 that he was a limited participant in Monday's practice or 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.280 their walkthrough with the hip injuries. So you don't know 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.720 exactly what what dimension or who's going to be in 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.880 that backfield, but you do know that the Seahawks are 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.680 feeling pretty good about whatever combination they're running with, that 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.480 they can that they can move the ball and be 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.600 able to set things up for Russell Wilson because going 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.040 back to two thousand and ten when Pete Carroll came 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.520 in as the head coach there, regardless of what the 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.360 defenses look like, regardless of whether or not Russell Wilson 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.840 was on the field, the main m O of Pete 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.240 Carroll's teams have been to establish the run. They struggled 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.560 to do that for two years and the results in 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.560 the in the record reflected that seems to me, and 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.400 as Carroll agrees, they are back to being the team 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.400 that they want to be in that regard. Still other 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.200 places to clear up, but that they they feel like 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.560 confident in their ability to move to football on the ground. Yeah, 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.640 and I heard Pete Carroll. I believe he made some 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.000 comments to the Seattle media or maybe it was even 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.560 to some national reporters earlier this week. Everybody's talking about 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.000 the Seahaw being four and five coming off of they've 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.360 lost twice to the Rams in their own division. But 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.040 Pete Carroll points back to, just like Packers fans point 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.640 back to in terms of trying to get going late, 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.000 the Seahawks one. I believe it was six of their 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.680 last seven after a four and five start just a 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.200 few years ago, and they got themselves in the playoffs 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.000 and and we're right in the thick of it again. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.120 So um, in that respect, there's certainly no no sleeping 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.800 on this team. They will be just as fired up 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.760 and and I don't like to say desperate necessarily right now, 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.240 but in need of a victory just as much as 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.360 the Packers with regards to that, uh, With regards to 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.040 that Seahawks running game, Wes, We've seen them do it 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.600 with a lot of different guys. I was actually surprised 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.720 when I looked at the statistics that Russell Wilson, he 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.320 only has about two hundred or so rushing yards on 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.120 the season, and almost half of those came just in 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.480 in last week's game. I still think he can be very, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.160 very dangerous obviously in that respect. But you said it 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.640 it's getting for it's getting the running game going and 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.559 then running the play action off of it. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.839 And and It goes back to something when you look 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.600 at Carson earlier this season. I mean, Chris Carson had 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.720 a game which he carried the ball thirty two times. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.520 Before he had the hip flare up, he carried it 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.559 twenty five times. They felt pretty comfortable with him being 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.680 a bell call back for them. In sprinkling in Mike Davis, 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.679 now you're starting to get Penny, their first round draft pick, 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.439 more involved. They feel good about where he's at. They 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.040 felt like he turned a corner in that game last weekend, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.360 so it gives them more multiple options going into the season. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.360 I think everybody, myself included I drafted him in fantasy football. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:37.760 We were kind of thinking that maybe Penny could be 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.920 the guy there and just be, you know, the next 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.200 Marshawn Lynch. It hasn't really worked out that way at 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:47.400 this point, but at the same token, whatever the combination 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.120 has been, they've been able to move to football. Now, 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.760 what I'm interested to see is after that game against 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.400 the Rams where Russell Wilson did scramble nine times for 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.400 ninety two yards, do you see him start to open 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.880 up a little more. Does Brian Schottenheimer feel a little 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.040 bit more comfortable? Uh In in, you know, exploring that 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.360 avenue of his game. All things the Packers are gonna 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:09.959 have to answer. But the original point about the Packers 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.800 defense twenty second right now, in the NFL, they've done 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.160 a good job of not really giving up the big run, 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.480 but it is been those intermediate kind of runs and 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.280 second and third down leaking out for first downs that 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.679 they have to be mindful of. And I'm very interested 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.319 to see in this particular game. Do you see more 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.200 of the combination of Blake Martinez Antonio Morrison. Do you 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.800 see them maybe stack in the box a little bit 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.080 more in challenging Russell Wilson to go downfield. We'll have 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.800 to see. Well that that's what I'm curious about. Schematically, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.960 because we've seen Mike Petton be so multiple with this defense. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.440 You're right, one potential option to stop the run is 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.440 to put Morrison and Martinez both next to each other 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.319 off the ball in the middle of the defense at linebacker. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.720 The other way you can go about it is you 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.200 can play a five man front three down linemen have 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.600 your two outside linebackers, but you can then you have 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.600 Martinez in the middle and you still have five defensive 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.120 backs on the field. To guard against the playoffs, and 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.240 you know, yeah, so there are some different options there, 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.240 and you know the chess match part of this. You 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.480 can't get too far into it on such a short 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.360 week in terms of trying to figure it out, but 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.840 you have those options in your back pocket. The players 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.880 rep them, you know, as much as you can on 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.400 a short week, and uh, and have to execute it 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.439 when it's called because this is the type of game 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.000 where adjustments might have to be made right away when 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.920 suddenly it's like, oh, we're trying something, it's not working 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.480 and we haven't repped it. You know, we haven't repped 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.360 these other things enough, but we've got to We've got 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.360 to try it because we can't let the game get 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.120 out of hand. Yeah, definitely. And from the Packers perspective, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.400 you mentioned it with Aaron Jones, getting that side of 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.680 things going. The Seattle run defense isn't as how would 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:51.280 you say, restricting, isn't a lockdown, isn't as dominant as 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:55.000 probably was for a number of years. Definitely definitely against 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.320 the run. Right now, Mike, they're tied for twenty eight 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.000 with five point zero yards allowed per care. So if 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.880 the Packers, this seems like the type of game too. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.800 As you mentioned, if you can get Aaron Jones going 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.760 start getting that momentum built early on, it also can 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.760 go a long wait and really opening things up. Yeah. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.960 All right, Well, a little more sponsored business here West, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.760 at home or here in the stands. We all know 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.560 that Green Bay fans give it their all and that 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.839 takes a lot of energy. So grab a warm bowl 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.000 of Campbell's Chunky Soup. 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Yeah, they 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.559 and they had the five interception game here at Lambe 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.960 Field in when the Packers were in there. They're late 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.400 season run. So you know Wilson is certainly aware of 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.360 that in terms of what in terms of what this 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.440 defense has done to him. I guess my question to you, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.400 it's kind of an obvious one every week, but talking 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.280 specifically this game, these two teams, how important do you 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.520 think it is for the Packers defense to get I'll 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:24.000 pick or maybe two off of Wilson in order to win? Well, certainly, again, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.160 you and I seems to always talk about this every week. 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.200 It is important to win the turnover margin. But for 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.000 my money, this game is important because the Packers stacked 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.800 some success with the takeaways last week, with the fumble 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.000 recovery in Bashad Brelan's interception. They've been looking for those 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.520 type of place if you can get one or two 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.880 more in this game, and also had the offense convert 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.839 those into points like they did a week ago, three 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:50.320 days ago with get caught myself there, but they turned 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.480 him into fourteen points. They were able to take that 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:58.160 ball and really build that momentum after such a momental, emotional, uh, 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:02.080 you know, game changing type play. So if you're able 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.600 to do that again, well, one, there's nothing more demoralizing 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.040 in the NFL than a takeaway at home. From the 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.720 Seattle's perspective, that's what really can suck the air out 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.599 of the building. So yeah, I think it's important. I 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.400 think if you can get a strip, if you can 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.600 get an interception, if you can do anything to steal 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.120 a possession, especially against a team like that, it's gonna 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:25.720 go a long way. Because when this team, when the 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.760 Seahawks are at their best, it's Russell Wilson throwing four 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.200 or five interceptions a season. It's it's them having three 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.160 or four fumbles a season. Uh, it's just it's they 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.400 do a fairly good job at historically protecting the football, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.520 and then when they had the defense that they did, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.800 that's what is really uh you know, allowed them to 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.920 get on the run that they were on. So yeah, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.200 I think it's paramount if you can achieve that. And 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.520 when you talk about the crowd noise, obviously you know 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.080 Rogers said it certainly at his locker on Tuesday, Protecting 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.840 the football, you know, a turnover is what can really 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.280 get that crowd going and can be part of that 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.960 surge that ultimately you're going to have to withstand. So 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:08.360 so limiting those can the silly penalties to like, there's 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.760 gonna be some communications, here's no question about it, but 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.600 avoiding the full starts, avoiding the encroachments at times defensively, 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.440 just being able to make sure you don't give them 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.440 any free artage because that's only gonna, you know, add 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:21.960 a little bit more fuel to that fire for the 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.520 Seattle fan base. And certainly the Packers need to play. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.520 As we've talked about over the last several weeks, the 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.920 Packers need to play a clean game on special teams 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.080 at some point. I mean the mistakes that happened in 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.000 the Miami game with the block punt, the fumble on 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.200 the punt return, those kinds of things, especially on the road, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.040 can be really tough to come back from. We saw 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.920 how hard it was for the Packers just to bounce 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.120 back from the little punt snaffoo with Kevin King in 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.920 Detroit that gives Detroit a seven nothing lead right off 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.960 the bat, and it felt like it was until the 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.400 almost the third quarter before the Packers really recovered and 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.520 and uh and started to get something going. And it 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.080 all started with a big miskey on special team Packers 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.400 roster at this time, what time we're tape in this 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.560 still at fifty two, they have a guy that's eligible 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.240 to return in this game. Trevor Davis was the third 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.440 ranked second ranked pount returner in the in the league 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.160 last season. I thought he did an exemplary job after 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.640 taking over for Jeff Jennis on kickoff returns. Trevor Davis 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.440 could be a really important piece for the Packers in 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.320 the second half of the season. We'll see whether or 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.240 not this is the week, but from all indications what 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.800 he said after the game on Sunday, he feels good, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.320 he feels healthy from that and recovered from that hamstring. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.160 Could go a long way and really settling things down 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.920 on those special teams, those return units. If he can play, yeah, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.760 maybe the maybe the spark that the special teams need. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.800 One other thing. I want to get to West before 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.520 we go, because I'm getting this question a lot in 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.360 Insider Inbox this week, the fans are looking at what 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.120 else is going on around the league. Sunday night, the 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.600 Packers are off on the weekend after playing on Thursday. 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.280 Sunday Night as the Bears against the Vikings. Packers fans 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.960 are wondering, okay, Bears are six and three Vikings or 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.160 five three and one. Who are you supposed to cheer for? 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:58.920 You know, I don't know. Do you do you have 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.440 do you have a gut feeling? Do you have an 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.199 answer on who which team Packers fans should root for 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.560 in this NFC North matchup? I'm gonna go with oh Man, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.440 if you just go by based alone on quote unquote 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:16.479 power rankings, it would probably be Chicago because you just 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.320 feel like Chicago might be more susceptible to falling into 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.360 a lull. Minnesota is a pretty veteran team at this point. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.400 They have a veteran quarterback, and it seems like any 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.600 win for them is only going to help kind of, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.280 you know, move the ball a little bit for them. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.719 But there is a part of me too that wonders 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.040 if the Vikings could win this game. Go to six 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.040 three and one, the Bears go to six and four, 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.880 the Packers win, well, then suddenly you know they're at 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.199 five four and one, You're only one game out, and 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.760 you get a chance to go into Minnesota very next 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.919 week and US Bank Stadium the very next week in 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.320 prime time. So, um, I don't think there's a really 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.680 true winner or a loser, but maybe you just wait 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.560 and see who wins this one, and you cheer for 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.800 the other team when they meet a second time, and 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.159 just hope the Bears and the Vikings split their two games. 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.880 That might be the best case scenario for the Packers 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.520 as we're looking at it right, because I mean, if 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.359 the Bears pick up these two, man that there they 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.920 have eight wins going into December. So yeah, it's it's 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.119 and from a schedule standpoint to obviously anything can happen 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.240 any week. But I know the Vikings still have to 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.879 go to New England, but the Bears also still have 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.000 to play the Rams, you know, so we both both 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.600 teams have something. I think the Bears schedule might be 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.720 a little bit more favorable than the Vikings, but again 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.800 this is this is the NFL to say schedules are favorable, 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.480 you know that can that can change in seven days. Yeah, 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.280 a good week though for you and I to not 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.040 have to work the weekend when you look at that 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.280 the Bears Vikings game, the Saints and the Eagles, that's 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.240 gonna be a good one. Another tough matchup for Philling. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.479 Super Bowl champs are four and five and now they 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.560 have to go to New Orleans to try to avoid 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.239 a sixth loss, that's another tough one. And then just 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.160 looking also at the Cowboys and the Falcons, Uh, two 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.080 teams that had big hopes going in this year. One 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.040 of those teams likely will be four and six. And 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.080 then you always throw in the caveat and just since 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.600 I did that, ever since I did that back in 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.840 the early party. And then next Monday night Kansas City 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:07.720 in l A. You know, it's uh, it's gonna be 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.320 a good weekend of football. But the Packers get to 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:10.639