1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. 3 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field, West. 4 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: We are one day closer to Packers Seahawks Thursday Night 5 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: football at Century Link Field, a four four in one 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Packers team, a four and five Seahawks team. Because of 7 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: the short week, this is actually our final show of 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: the week, which means its keys to victory time. So 9 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: with these two teams both fighting for victory number five 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: in the season, what do you see as the biggest 11 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: key to victory for the Packers in Seattle? Well, I 12 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: think it starts with the elements in that stadium. I 13 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: don't see it, as we talked about yesterday's show, Mike, 14 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the impenetrable force that maybe 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: it was four or five years ago. But as a 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: couple of guys in the locker rooms said on Tuesday, 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: including Aaron Rodgers, there is something still to be said 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: about being able to seize momentum there and being able 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: to take the crowd out of it. Claim Matthews touched 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: on this as well in that it gets loud. Uh. 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy made the comment that they have the loudest 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: speakers system in the NFL, and the crowd gets into 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: it and everything sort of feeds off of each other. 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: What you need to be able to do if you're 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: the Packers, if you're any road team, is go in 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: there and put up points, really get some production going 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: and not allowed that fan base to get the wind 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: behind their sales. I just think whether it's the run, 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: whether it's the past, whether it's a defensive stop to 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: begin the game, whatever it takes being able to not 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: allow Russell Wilson to get off to a fast start 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: and really get that crowd humming. Yeah. I really liked 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: one comment that Aaron Rodgers had at his locker on 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Tuesday in which he talked about you have to be 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: able to withstand the surd in that stadium, and I 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of build a whole story around that on Packers 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: dot Com and that anytime you go into that place, 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: there's always going to be a surge from Seattle at 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: some point. You just look at the Packers history there. 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: Two thousand and twelve, it was eight sacks of Aaron 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers in the first half. Unfortunately, the Packers stayed in 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: the game, only down seven nothing at halftime. After that 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: horrible first half, they came back with a strong running 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: game and they were in position should have won the 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: game obviously, if not for the fail Mary. Then you 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: look at the season opener. Packers were right in the game. 47 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: I believe it was a seven point game at halftime, 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: but there was an interception which set up points and 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: then a safety which was followed by a touchdown. It 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: was like this third quarter surge that the Seahawks had 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: and the Packers couldn't stop it. It was that snowball 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: rolling downhill and then we all know what happened in 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: the two thousand and fourteen NFC Championship game to end 54 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: that year. So you've got to be able to withstand 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: the surge and find a way to stop it. Now, 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: a turnover could stop it. A key third down conversion 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: on offense when the crowd is, you know, at its 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: peak volume wise, trying to mess up the offense and everything. 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: You convert something there that can stem the tide, so 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: to speak. The Packers are going to be in a 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: couple of positions on Thursday night, where they have to 62 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: do something like that and it's a matter of whether 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: or not they get it done. Yeah, And I think 64 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: you bring up a good point, and certainly we do 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: not need to go over the two thousand fourteen NFC 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: title game. I know that was a question that some 67 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: people try to bring up to veterans on this roster, 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: but Clay Matthews being one of them, kind of shut 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: that down, saying this is a completely different team. I 70 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: think it was even to the point that the Packers 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: actually had guys or had players in the locker room 72 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: raise their hands if they even played in century like before, 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: and there weren't that many hands. But one thing that 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: I that I do remember from that four teen game 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: was how quiet that stadium was at halftime. Packers obviously 76 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: weren't able to finish what they wanted to, they weren't 77 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: able to get the touchdowns they had to settle for 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: field goals, but it still was sixteen to nothing, and 79 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: that's as quiet now. Might have only been there three times, 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: I think now, but that was as quiet as I 81 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: can recall that atmosphere. The Packers need to make sure 82 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: that happens again. And and the one thing I like 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: that Green Bay has going for it going into this 84 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: game is one of the it's its strongest, most complete 85 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: defensive performances. Very multiple wasn't relying on one player. Head 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: guys step up in the face of injury and offensively 87 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: seeing that juggernaut out of the backfield that is Aaron 88 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: Jones and getting him going the way he's going on 89 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: a short week. There's a lot of things the Packers 90 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: put on film that the Seattle Seahawks are going to 91 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: have to take into account, and I think that's a 92 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: good place to be in uh in terms of really 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: making Pete Carroll his coaching staff think about what they're 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: gonna see Thursday night. Yeah, Well, with this being the 95 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: last show of the week, I've got a lot of 96 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: sponsored business I need to get through to fulfill our 97 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: obligations for West. So bear with me, but quickly. 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The 107 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: Packers actually number one in the league right now in 108 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: yards per carry as far as running the ball five 109 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: point to the Seattle Seahawks twenty nine in the league 110 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: in yards allowed per rush at five point zero. Now, 111 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: they haven't given up a ton of rushing yards overall 112 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: because teams haven't necessarily run the ball that much. But 113 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: those two statistics really sort of stand out. And then 114 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: obviously the flip side of it. The Seahawks, the number 115 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: one rushing offense in the league, get a hundred and 116 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: fifty two yards per game, and the Packers they always 117 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: seem to have some lulls or some ruts in their 118 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: run defense. Where I mean, we saw Adrian Peterson get 119 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: going for Washington, we saw Frank Gore start out really 120 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: hot for the Miami Dolphins. Things like that have happened. 121 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: The Packers have had their ups and downs in that area. 122 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: It just it feels like a run the ball, stop 123 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: to run game to me. Yeah, and it was interesting 124 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: listen to Pete Carroll in his conference call with the 125 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay Media. Was basically asked something along those lines, 126 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: because you look at it, Mike, this is the number 127 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: one rushing offense in the NFL statistically hundred and fifty 128 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: two point two yards per game. And Carol said, one 129 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: thing that this year's team has done, and they've had 130 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: to do with a number of different running backs, as 131 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: we outlined in some of our previous shows, but they're 132 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: getting back to what they feel is their their true form, 133 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: being able to establish the run, being a run team 134 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: that that can move the football in that way, maybe 135 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: lull you a little bit, and then make a big 136 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: play happen off the pass from that, and they feel 137 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: like they're getting close in terms of being able to 138 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 1: do that consistently. We saw we saw Rashad Penning step 139 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: up the way that he did. Uh, you have Mike 140 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Davis involved in there. That could potentially be the one 141 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: to punch if Chris Carson can't come back from the hip. 142 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: At the time we're shooting this, all we know is 143 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: that he was a limited participant in Monday's practice or 144 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: their walkthrough with the hip injuries. So you don't know 145 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: exactly what what dimension or who's going to be in 146 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: that backfield, but you do know that the Seahawks are 147 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about whatever combination they're running with, that 148 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: they can that they can move the ball and be 149 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: able to set things up for Russell Wilson because going 150 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: back to two thousand and ten when Pete Carroll came 151 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: in as the head coach there, regardless of what the 152 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: defenses look like, regardless of whether or not Russell Wilson 153 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: was on the field, the main m O of Pete 154 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Carroll's teams have been to establish the run. They struggled 155 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: to do that for two years and the results in 156 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: the in the record reflected that seems to me, and 157 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: as Carroll agrees, they are back to being the team 158 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: that they want to be in that regard. Still other 159 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: places to clear up, but that they they feel like 160 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: confident in their ability to move to football on the ground. Yeah, 161 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: and I heard Pete Carroll. I believe he made some 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: comments to the Seattle media or maybe it was even 163 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: to some national reporters earlier this week. Everybody's talking about 164 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: the Seahaw being four and five coming off of they've 165 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: lost twice to the Rams in their own division. But 166 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll points back to, just like Packers fans point 167 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: back to in terms of trying to get going late, 168 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks one. I believe it was six of their 169 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: last seven after a four and five start just a 170 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: few years ago, and they got themselves in the playoffs 171 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: and and we're right in the thick of it again. 172 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: So um, in that respect, there's certainly no no sleeping 173 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: on this team. They will be just as fired up 174 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: and and I don't like to say desperate necessarily right now, 175 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: but in need of a victory just as much as 176 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: the Packers with regards to that, uh, With regards to 177 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: that Seahawks running game, Wes, We've seen them do it 178 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: with a lot of different guys. I was actually surprised 179 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: when I looked at the statistics that Russell Wilson, he 180 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: only has about two hundred or so rushing yards on 181 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: the season, and almost half of those came just in 182 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: in last week's game. I still think he can be very, 183 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: very dangerous obviously in that respect. But you said it 184 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: it's getting for it's getting the running game going and 185 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: then running the play action off of it. Yeah. Absolutely, 186 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: And and It goes back to something when you look 187 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: at Carson earlier this season. I mean, Chris Carson had 188 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: a game which he carried the ball thirty two times. 189 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: Before he had the hip flare up, he carried it 190 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: twenty five times. They felt pretty comfortable with him being 191 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: a bell call back for them. In sprinkling in Mike Davis, 192 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: now you're starting to get Penny, their first round draft pick, 193 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: more involved. They feel good about where he's at. They 194 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: felt like he turned a corner in that game last weekend, 195 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: so it gives them more multiple options going into the season. 196 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I think everybody, myself included I drafted him in fantasy football. 197 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: We were kind of thinking that maybe Penny could be 198 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the guy there and just be, you know, the next 199 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. It hasn't really worked out that way at 200 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: this point, but at the same token, whatever the combination 201 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: has been, they've been able to move to football. Now, 202 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: what I'm interested to see is after that game against 203 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: the Rams where Russell Wilson did scramble nine times for 204 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: ninety two yards, do you see him start to open 205 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: up a little more. Does Brian Schottenheimer feel a little 206 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: bit more comfortable? Uh In in, you know, exploring that 207 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: avenue of his game. All things the Packers are gonna 208 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: have to answer. But the original point about the Packers 209 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: defense twenty second right now, in the NFL, they've done 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: a good job of not really giving up the big run, 211 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: but it is been those intermediate kind of runs and 212 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: second and third down leaking out for first downs that 213 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: they have to be mindful of. And I'm very interested 214 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: to see in this particular game. Do you see more 215 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: of the combination of Blake Martinez Antonio Morrison. Do you 216 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: see them maybe stack in the box a little bit 217 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: more in challenging Russell Wilson to go downfield. We'll have 218 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: to see. Well that that's what I'm curious about. Schematically, 219 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: because we've seen Mike Petton be so multiple with this defense. 220 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: You're right, one potential option to stop the run is 221 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: to put Morrison and Martinez both next to each other 222 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: off the ball in the middle of the defense at linebacker. 223 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: The other way you can go about it is you 224 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: can play a five man front three down linemen have 225 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: your two outside linebackers, but you can then you have 226 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: Martinez in the middle and you still have five defensive 227 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: backs on the field. To guard against the playoffs, and 228 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, so there are some different options there, 229 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: and you know the chess match part of this. You 230 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: can't get too far into it on such a short 231 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: week in terms of trying to figure it out, but 232 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: you have those options in your back pocket. The players 233 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: rep them, you know, as much as you can on 234 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: a short week, and uh, and have to execute it 235 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: when it's called because this is the type of game 236 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: where adjustments might have to be made right away when 237 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: suddenly it's like, oh, we're trying something, it's not working 238 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: and we haven't repped it. You know, we haven't repped 239 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: these other things enough, but we've got to We've got 240 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: to try it because we can't let the game get 241 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: out of hand. Yeah, definitely. And from the Packers perspective, 242 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned it with Aaron Jones, getting that side of 243 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: things going. The Seattle run defense isn't as how would 244 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: you say, restricting, isn't a lockdown, isn't as dominant as 245 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: probably was for a number of years. Definitely definitely against 246 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: the run. Right now, Mike, they're tied for twenty eight 247 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: with five point zero yards allowed per care. So if 248 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: the Packers, this seems like the type of game too. 249 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, if you can get Aaron Jones going 250 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: start getting that momentum built early on, it also can 251 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: go a long wait and really opening things up. Yeah. 252 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well, a little more sponsored business here West, 253 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: at home or here in the stands. We all know 254 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: that Green Bay fans give it their all and that 255 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: takes a lot of energy. So grab a warm bowl 256 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: of Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's meaty goodness fuels the greatness 257 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: of Packers fans everywhere tried the delicious classic chicken noodle soup. 258 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: Just visit your local supermarket and asked for Campbell's Chunky Soup. 259 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: Official sup partner of the Green Bay Packers. You mentioned 260 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: it on our last show West, the success the Packers 261 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: defense has had getting some interceptions off of Russell Wilson. Um, 262 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: I believe you said the number was ten. Yeah, in 263 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: five regular season games. I don't have it with the 264 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: playoff game mixed in. Yeah, I mean you throw in 265 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: the NFC champion were four. There were four more in 266 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, so fourteen and six. Yeah, they 267 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: and they had the five interception game here at Lambe 268 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: Field in when the Packers were in there. They're late 269 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: season run. So you know Wilson is certainly aware of 270 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: that in terms of what in terms of what this 271 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: defense has done to him. I guess my question to you, 272 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of an obvious one every week, but talking 273 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: specifically this game, these two teams, how important do you 274 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: think it is for the Packers defense to get I'll 275 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: pick or maybe two off of Wilson in order to win? Well, certainly, again, 276 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: you and I seems to always talk about this every week. 277 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: It is important to win the turnover margin. But for 278 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: my money, this game is important because the Packers stacked 279 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: some success with the takeaways last week, with the fumble 280 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: recovery in Bashad Brelan's interception. They've been looking for those 281 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: type of place if you can get one or two 282 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: more in this game, and also had the offense convert 283 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: those into points like they did a week ago, three 284 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: days ago with get caught myself there, but they turned 285 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: him into fourteen points. They were able to take that 286 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: ball and really build that momentum after such a momental, emotional, uh, 287 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, game changing type play. So if you're able 288 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: to do that again, well, one, there's nothing more demoralizing 289 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL than a takeaway at home. From the 290 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Seattle's perspective, that's what really can suck the air out 291 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 1: of the building. So yeah, I think it's important. I 292 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: think if you can get a strip, if you can 293 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: get an interception, if you can do anything to steal 294 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: a possession, especially against a team like that, it's gonna 295 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: go a long way. Because when this team, when the 296 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks are at their best, it's Russell Wilson throwing four 297 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: or five interceptions a season. It's it's them having three 298 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: or four fumbles a season. Uh, it's just it's they 299 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: do a fairly good job at historically protecting the football, 300 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: and then when they had the defense that they did, 301 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: that's what is really uh you know, allowed them to 302 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: get on the run that they were on. So yeah, 303 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: I think it's paramount if you can achieve that. And 304 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: when you talk about the crowd noise, obviously you know 305 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: Rogers said it certainly at his locker on Tuesday, Protecting 306 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: the football, you know, a turnover is what can really 307 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: get that crowd going and can be part of that 308 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: surge that ultimately you're going to have to withstand. So 309 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: so limiting those can the silly penalties to like, there's 310 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna be some communications, here's no question about it, but 311 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: avoiding the full starts, avoiding the encroachments at times defensively, 312 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: just being able to make sure you don't give them 313 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: any free artage because that's only gonna, you know, add 314 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more fuel to that fire for the 315 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Seattle fan base. And certainly the Packers need to play. 316 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: As we've talked about over the last several weeks, the 317 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: Packers need to play a clean game on special teams 318 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: at some point. I mean the mistakes that happened in 319 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: the Miami game with the block punt, the fumble on 320 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: the punt return, those kinds of things, especially on the road, 321 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: can be really tough to come back from. We saw 322 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: how hard it was for the Packers just to bounce 323 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: back from the little punt snaffoo with Kevin King in 324 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Detroit that gives Detroit a seven nothing lead right off 325 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: the bat, and it felt like it was until the 326 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: almost the third quarter before the Packers really recovered and 327 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: and uh and started to get something going. And it 328 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: all started with a big miskey on special team Packers 329 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: roster at this time, what time we're tape in this 330 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: still at fifty two, they have a guy that's eligible 331 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: to return in this game. Trevor Davis was the third 332 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: ranked second ranked pount returner in the in the league 333 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: last season. I thought he did an exemplary job after 334 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: taking over for Jeff Jennis on kickoff returns. Trevor Davis 335 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: could be a really important piece for the Packers in 336 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. We'll see whether or 337 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: not this is the week, but from all indications what 338 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: he said after the game on Sunday, he feels good, 339 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: he feels healthy from that and recovered from that hamstring. 340 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Could go a long way and really settling things down 341 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: on those special teams, those return units. If he can play, yeah, 342 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: maybe the maybe the spark that the special teams need. 343 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: One other thing. I want to get to West before 344 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: we go, because I'm getting this question a lot in 345 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: Insider Inbox this week, the fans are looking at what 346 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: else is going on around the league. Sunday night, the 347 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: Packers are off on the weekend after playing on Thursday. 348 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: Sunday Night as the Bears against the Vikings. Packers fans 349 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: are wondering, okay, Bears are six and three Vikings or 350 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: five three and one. Who are you supposed to cheer for? 351 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. Do you do you have 352 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: do you have a gut feeling? Do you have an 353 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: answer on who which team Packers fans should root for 354 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: in this NFC North matchup? I'm gonna go with oh Man, 355 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: if you just go by based alone on quote unquote 356 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: power rankings, it would probably be Chicago because you just 357 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: feel like Chicago might be more susceptible to falling into 358 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: a lull. Minnesota is a pretty veteran team at this point. 359 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: They have a veteran quarterback, and it seems like any 360 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: win for them is only going to help kind of, 361 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, move the ball a little bit for them. 362 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: But there is a part of me too that wonders 363 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: if the Vikings could win this game. Go to six 364 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: three and one, the Bears go to six and four, 365 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: the Packers win, well, then suddenly you know they're at 366 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: five four and one, You're only one game out, and 367 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: you get a chance to go into Minnesota very next 368 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: week and US Bank Stadium the very next week in 369 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: prime time. So, um, I don't think there's a really 370 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: true winner or a loser, but maybe you just wait 371 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: and see who wins this one, and you cheer for 372 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: the other team when they meet a second time, and 373 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: just hope the Bears and the Vikings split their two games. 374 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: That might be the best case scenario for the Packers 375 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: as we're looking at it right, because I mean, if 376 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: the Bears pick up these two, man that there they 377 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: have eight wins going into December. So yeah, it's it's 378 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: and from a schedule standpoint to obviously anything can happen 379 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: any week. But I know the Vikings still have to 380 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: go to New England, but the Bears also still have 381 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: to play the Rams, you know, so we both both 382 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: teams have something. I think the Bears schedule might be 383 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more favorable than the Vikings, but again 384 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: this is this is the NFL to say schedules are favorable, 385 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: you know that can that can change in seven days. Yeah, 386 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: a good week though for you and I to not 387 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: have to work the weekend when you look at that 388 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: the Bears Vikings game, the Saints and the Eagles, that's 389 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. Another tough matchup for Philling. 390 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs are four and five and now they 391 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: have to go to New Orleans to try to avoid 392 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 1: a sixth loss, that's another tough one. And then just 393 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: looking also at the Cowboys and the Falcons, Uh, two 394 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: teams that had big hopes going in this year. One 395 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: of those teams likely will be four and six. And 396 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: then you always throw in the caveat and just since 397 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: I did that, ever since I did that back in 398 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: the early party. And then next Monday night Kansas City 399 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: in l A. You know, it's uh, it's gonna be 400 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: a good weekend of football. But the Packers get to 401 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: kick it off, and I'm sure there's a lot of 402 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: fans out there hoping they pick up that big first 403 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: road win in a very noisy, at least at the 404 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: beginning environment. Yeah, we will see how it shakes out, 405 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: but for now we have to sign off on this 406 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 407 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team and all of the coverage 408 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: of Thursday night's game from Century Link Field on Packers 409 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: dot com. 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